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Thanks for adding your edits, hopefully you'll become a regular contributor.  If I can help you out with anything let me know.  [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 19:45, 27 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:49, 27 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Account promoted to skip the Captcha requirement.  Thanks for your enlightening edits to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 19:37, 28 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:45, 28 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations and welcome.  You should be aware that people who edit at both CP and WP with the same user name are sometimes harrassed at WP as a result. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:11, 29 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thank you for the welcome and thanks for the heads up! I've already received some heat on Wikipedia for taking some unpopular positions and opposing the bias there, so it will be nothing new for me. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 29 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw your helpful addition to the article on Murder of Seth Rich, so I thought I would visit your talk page. How long have you lasted on the WickedPedia? I would be surprised that you would last long there, as I have found the WickedPedia incredibly intolerant and censorious, a pseudo-aristocracy with dominating bullies, biased enough for me to consider it a candidate for the Big T award (T in the Calvinist TULIP); i.e, total depravity! LOL I don't think you can do much on Wikipedia without being part of a group of old boys or buddies who work together.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 19:26, 23 August 2016 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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:Did you mean my Wikipedia talk page? I have been editing Wikipedia for almost three years already. A big reason why I've lasted so long there is because many of the topics I edit are not particularly controversial. However, you are completely right in your description of Wikipedia. I have seen firsthand the massive (and very visible) intolerance and bias Wikipedia has against conservatives, Christians, and anything that contradicts secular and humanistic (pseudo)&amp;quot;scientific knowledge&amp;quot;. I could probably write a book about all my criticisms of Wikipedia. I have been able to do some good work (I was able to bring the article &amp;quot;Electoral history of Ronald Reagan&amp;quot; to official &amp;quot;Good Article&amp;quot; status, and I created a few articles), but on other articles, like the Murder of Seth Rich, we cannot have much confidence on the quality and neutrality of those articles. I do applaud you, Thunkful2, for your excellent work on &amp;quot;Murder of Seth Rich&amp;quot;. It's awesome that at least one person can accurately present this story! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:35, 23 August 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I meant right here, this talk page -- I visited it after seeing your good edit.  No, I haven't gone to your talk page on the WickedPedia.  Thanks for the complement.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 10:45, 24 August 2016 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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:OK, got it. And thanks for your complement. :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:50, 24 August 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== References from Wikipedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While it's not really plagiarism to copy a reference from WP, it just want to point out that you probably shouldn't do so unless you have read that source, and believe that it supports what is being said.  If you are reading the books you are referencing, that's fine--I just can't tell. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:33, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, that's a good point. I actually did not read those books, I just wanted to cite something so I wouldn't be adding unsourced info to the article. Should I remove those references anyway? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:36, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It is a good idea to find references to support unsourced statements, but it is a little deceptive to cite something you haven't read.  To be entirely beyond reproach, removal probably would be best.  At this point though, I honestly don't know if I'd bother.  In my opinion, it's up to you.  No one else has said anything, so it might be okay to leave them, I'm just not sure. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:51, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::OK. I will do my own research and find other sources that I can use instead. However, it's getting late, so I will deal with that tomorrow. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:58, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your account has been promoted to include blocking and overnight editing capability.  Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:30, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Congratulations! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:57, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well done!  [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 01:06, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks all! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:21, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Excellent!  you did good keeping an eye on that vandal yesterday. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 14:52, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Thanks, Progressingamerica, I appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:42, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Reading the WSJ==&lt;br /&gt;
Re: [[Christoph Blocher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Typically, when I want to read a WSJ article that requires subscriber sign in is to Google the headline and access the web page from a search engine instead of directly.  Most of the time this requires a clean browser tab, sometimes it needs to be done in a different browser.  Rarely, it requires a cookie clearing.  Just thought that information may be of help.  This even works with articles that are years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a last resort, see if its in the internet archive.(though, most articles I don't want that bad to keep trying)  But they're all good procedures to know.  Sometimes works for other news sites too, besides WSJ. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 00:00, 10 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the tip! That's what I will do. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:32, 10 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your account has been promoted to include upload and rollback features.  Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations! Keep it up! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:31, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks David! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:43, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Move and unlock requests ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You can post your move and unlock requests to [[User talk:Karajou]]. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:30, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for the tip! It's getting late, so I will do that tomorrow. I appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:37, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You don't actually need any privileges to do a move. You can cut-and-paste from one lemma to another. For purposes of copyright law, the edit summaries must make it clear where the incoming material comes from. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 00:54, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Karajou blocked a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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People should not be judged in race on alleged sexuality. A proper critique of Karajou would be asking him about blocking a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor.--[[User:Rodgerr|Rodgerr]] ([[User talk:Rodgerr|talk]]) 19:04, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If you think you have been judged unfairly, you could have just emailed Karajou or webmaster@conservapedia.com (see [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Member Accounts]]). However, more than once, you decided to take the low route, calling him filthy, immature words [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Karajou&amp;amp;diff=1283494&amp;amp;oldid=1283491]. See [[Conservapedia:Avoid personal remarks]]. And why in the world did you do this? [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Coal_burning&amp;amp;curid=140922&amp;amp;diff=1283484&amp;amp;oldid=1283423] (for someone who apparently abhors Trump for the tape, your words seem just as bad) That, honestly, is shameful. I will note that the &amp;quot;Bringreaganback&amp;quot; account clearly violated [[Conservapedia:90/10 rule]]. Considering all this, it's quite clear you deserved the block. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:12, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mainpageleft ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In response to your good question about entries on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]], currently there are about 112 featured entries there, which are &amp;quot;reshuffled&amp;quot; periodically.  Do you have any suggestions about how that &amp;quot;team&amp;quot; of entries be improved, with respect to insight, influence, popularity, interest level, educational value, etc.?  It's a terrific mix of topics now but there is always room for improvement, particularly as the issues and interest in certain topics by the public inevitably shifts over time.  Thanks much for any suggestions you may have.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:46, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:An example:  &amp;quot;[[Underrated Sports Stars]]&amp;quot; is a solid entry, but should probably be replaced on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]].  Do you have any favored, influential, insightful, potentially or already popular entry that you like, which you would recommend to replace it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:55, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I do have a few suggestions. [[Murder of Seth Rich]] is probably the best suggestion, as it is very detailed and well sourced. Also, the Wikipedia article of the murder has been the victim of leftist bias (two times, within a month, editors have tried to delete the article, and with that failing, the article appears to have been stripped of much detail) which our article covers well. Other suggestions that I have are the [[Ark Encounter]] (a popular and influential attraction, and one that has been the victim of atheist and evolutionary bias, which the article covers), and [[Larry McDonald]] (a true patriot who stayed true to his principles, and his article actually covers the theories on his possible survival). --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:22, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted again == &lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations, your account has been promoted again, so that you can edit protected articles, and protect and unprotect articles.  Very well done!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:05, 10 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow! Thank you very much, Mr. Schlafly! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:19, 10 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations!  I've had some problems with the &amp;quot;protect&amp;quot; privilege, but I hope it works for you! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:35, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks! I hope so too! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:15, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Congratulations on yet another promotion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Can't edit article==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi again, 1990'sguy, it's Ambassador. Is there any reason I can't edit the article on the [[Big Bang]]? To keep atheists from changing it, I suppose. If you have access to it, you might want to add the point about the Big Bang, due to planets and moons spinning backwards, contradicting the law of Conservation of angular momentum. Find out about it [http://www.creationwiki.org/Three_planets_and_several_moons_revolve_backwards_(Talk.Origins) here]. Thanks! [[User:Ambassador|Ambassador]] ([[User talk:Ambassador|talk]]) 19:56, 22 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, the article is protected probably because of atheist/secularist/liberal vandalism. Unfortunately, I cannot edit it myself as I do not have full admin capabilities. I recommend asking an admin ([http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&amp;amp;username=&amp;amp;group=sysop&amp;amp;limit=100 list]) to unlock the article or add the information you want added. Or, you can go to [[Talk:Main Page|the main talk page]] and add your request there, where more people can see it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:08, 22 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thank you! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello there, and thank you for editing the article on [[Islam and Christianity]]. --[[User:SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S|SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S]] ([[User talk:SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S|talk]]) 09:13, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No problem, and thank you for creating it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:14, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And also thank you, for your help - and tips! - on [[Jared Kushner]]. I'll try to remember the ref's and cat's in the future. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] ([[User talk:Ed Poor|talk]]) 21:49, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sounds great and you're welcome! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Geocentric page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I added a bit on the talk page a while ago. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:15, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you mean on the section &amp;quot;Ptolemy's view of a stationary earth&amp;quot;? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry for the late reply but yes. It doesn't seemed to have created a new heading so I will add that now. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:11, 5 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I removed it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:21, 5 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This is a simple misunderstanding. Please be reasonable. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is [[User:Amorrow]]. I had to dirty myself by creating a sockpuppet because you cut off every last channel of communication. The issues:&lt;br /&gt;
# SSN of dead people are release by the government of the USA. I made it clear that my father is dead. His name was William Knight Morrow. You can find his name and SSN, for instance, at [http://sortedbybirthdate.com/pages/19311104.html this page]. It is public, not private.&lt;br /&gt;
# You could have removed that link and let it go at that. I do not require notification of such actions. I do not care about that link very much. I put it there simply as a convenience.&lt;br /&gt;
Is the matter resolved? If so, then please unblock me or let me know here what remains unresolved.--[[User:Amorrow2|Amorrow2]] ([[User talk:Amorrow2|talk]]) 20:44, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I am discussing the issue on [[User talk:DavidB4]]. You are welcome to join in. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:48, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are unblocked. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Pitch hitting==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the ref [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Donald_Trump&amp;amp;oldid=1293435]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:34, 18 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. Always happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:15, 18 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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You're not telling me it's just a coincidence, are you? [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:44, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Seriously? It is extremely unlikely that this passage, which is about the Second Coming of Christ, has anything to do with Donald Trump. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Dang :( Thought I'd had my first ever conservative insight. Must be the morphine. [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:56, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think this has more to do with biblical [[hermeneutics]] than conservatism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:00, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Merry Christmas!  And have a happy New Year's Day. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:37, 24 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you very much, Conservative, and the same to you as well! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:43, 24 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I suggest doing the redirect in the opposite direction for two reasons.  First, it preserves the history and visits to the pre-existing entry.  Second, it leaves intact the &amp;quot;Saint&amp;quot; spelled out, which is a stronger and more effective title than the secularized abbreviation.  I'd be happy to change the direction of the redirect, if you agree.  Regardless, thanks for your efforts!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:01, 27 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes please, Mr. Schlafly, that would be great if you would move it. Just as long as the article shows up as being created by me on the &amp;quot;New Pages&amp;quot; feed. I didn't know that this article already existed, but I worked hard on it and I think that my article is of higher quality by any objective measure. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:39, 28 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was thinking of doing an article on the [[European immigration]] problem (don't want to call 'European immigration crisis', yet). Americans are woefully ignorant of what's happening in Europe, and we're looking at doing perhaps the biggest change in Immigration law since 1952. In Europe, whole new political parties have been spawned because of the establishment parties failure to deal with the problems. In 20 years, the German mi!itary may be majority Muslim which would impact the future of the NATO alliance. Better get started now in educating the American public on changing demographics and how this may affect America's role as a Superpower, assuming it still is by then. &lt;br /&gt;
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Would you care to collaborate? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Of course, I'll be happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Do you think we should add a subsection under UK about Brexit and to what extent that was motivated by immigration? Also, I'd like to include something about the Schengen Agreement. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:46, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Both of those are great ideas. The &amp;quot;freedom of movement&amp;quot; EU policy played a large part in the referendum and its aftermath. People are tired of unlimited immigration.&lt;br /&gt;
:::As for the Schengen area, people can go anywhere they want in Europe without worrying about border security (and before, it was quite tough crossing the border I've heard). The agreement is an essential part of the EU plan to reach full political unification. It really has nothing to do with economics. Also, criminals and terrorists can easily cross the border. The recent Berlin attacker was caught in Italy. He crossed at least two borders without being caught. Imagine if he tried doing that without the agreement. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:53, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Same as most of suspects in 1200 reported sexual assault cases New Years Eve in Cologne. Something like only 7 or 22 arrests have ever been made, while most of the other identified suspects are reported to have fled the country.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:06, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I created [[Social Security Death Index]]. After I add some ref's, I hope that we can revisit the notion of me declaring what my father's SSN is.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just to mention where I got this idea from, it is from the web site anusha.com . Sloan has lived an erratic and at times immoral life, but he is just below the level of genius in raw talent. I refer to him as an &amp;quot;accidental adventurer&amp;quot;. Please see thermo4thermo.org/sam_sloan.html for some of his life-adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
I am not promoting his lifestyle, but he is my publisher for my upcoming book. His web site is a mess. It has about 3000 pages but just a mess of cross-references. The home page is very, very long.  You can look at pages like www.anusha.com/pafc147.htm . He also has pages like www.anusha.com/uncles-p.htm . His memory is almost perfect. Near Total Recall. Anyway, I hope we can engage in dialog about my father's SSN.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 22:11, 3 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Hate crime==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear 1990'sguy, I am not trying to get into an edit war with you, but I believe that you are misreading the hate crime laws.  They do not address &amp;quot;hate speech,&amp;quot; just violence or other criminal acts against target groups that receive a lot of hate.  I suggest that you do further research, and I hope that you will come to the same conclusion. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 20:31, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, are you telling me that hate crime laws do not cover &amp;quot;hate speech&amp;quot;? Regardless, I think we should mention that slowly (but steadily) speaking out for biblical Christian principles (opposition to homosexual marriage, saying Islam is a false religion, etc.) is being seen as &amp;quot;hate speech&amp;quot; and vulnerable to being criminalized. See this recent story[https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/simon-turpin/2016/01/08/northern-ireland-pastor-not-guilty-criticising-islam/] and please note the recent attempts to censor Christian sermons in Houston (I don't know if other cities did the same). Censorship of Christian and conservative opinions is growing, and I could a few (but probably unrelated to hate crimes) examples. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:09, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, while you can keep you additions, would you please restore the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Hate_crime&amp;amp;curid=3861&amp;amp;diff=1298155&amp;amp;oldid=1298153 material you deleted in this edit] (particularly those three completely deleted paragraphs)? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:11, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thank you for fixing the dead link and finding an additional source.  You are exactly right. Hate crime and hate speech are completely different.  All Conservatives disapprove of speech codes, &amp;quot;safe spaces policy&amp;quot; and political correctness.  The First Amendment is clear that regulation of speech must be neutral as to the message.  The person(s) who wrote the [[Hate crime]] article years ago got a bit tangled up.  Liberals want hate speech codes, and Conservatives oppose them.  Both Liberals and Conservatives have voted to enact true hate crime laws to protect religious freedom and to address hate violence on the basis of race.  Some Conservatives argue that the list of hate targets in those laws should not include &amp;quot;sexual orientation,&amp;quot;  but that argument does not belong in a section discussing protecting religion.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I took out the two paragraphs because they were repetitive, out-of-place and not germaine.  Why not add them to [[Hate speech]]? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 21:39, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Thank you for clarifying and for moving the content. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:00, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You are welcome.  Our discussion here was a bit time delayed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 22:02, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
If you want to include the legislative history, it should explain which bill that was finally adopted that is being discussed and how the bill that was adopted differs from the earlier bills.  The people that worked on this article years ago were obviously opposed to a series of bills and were making arguments on why a bill would be bad.  Their narative is out of date.  We have a number of state and federal hate crime laws on the books and we need to describe what exists, give facts and statistics about how the laws work, and include some commentary on whether the law has been applied fairly.   If you want to expand the history section beyond the two sentences that I have explaining how the federal law expanded the role of the FBI, please do so.  But the fact that certain people sponsored bills that did not pass before a bill did pass is not helpful unless you explain what changes were made or how the early efforts illumniates our understanding of the bill that passed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:50, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:If these proposed bills became law, we should definitely include this (even if we word it differently). We should do this in order to inform the public about leftist laws and to show that they didn't always exist. Unfortunately, I am quite busy right now, so I cannot do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::1990sguy, these bills did '''not''' become law.  A similar bill later became law. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:10, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Not to sidetrack your guys discussion, but let me point out (cause the media hasn't) we have just witnessed something very rare and unusual in the US. Traditionally, because of state sovereignty, the states prosecute murder cases and federal government's role is restricted, for most of our history, to capital cases in the US military. In the 20th century federal crimes like murdering the president, or terrorism on federal property causing death ([[Timothy McVeigh]]), were added. This guy, [http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/12/us/dylann-roof-death-penalty-explainer/ Dylann Roof], has just been sentenced to death for violating peoples civil rights with a hate crime enhancement, and ''not for murder''. The federal government does not have the legal authority to try this as a murder case. In fact, Roof probably never will be tried for murder cause the State of South Carolina isn't gonna spend the time and money to do it after the feds are done. In my lifetime, I think this is only the fourth case like this I ever heard of, tho I'm sure there's been a few others. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:37, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Rob, this happened a lot in the 1960s. Civil rights workers would go South and were murdered and either the murder was not prosecuted or a local jury would acquit the accused.  The FBI would then investigate and the US DOJ would successfully prosecute for civil rights violations in Federal Court.  The question is whether there is enough of a commerce clause basis to allow for the passage of such federal crimes, and the courts have upheld them on the grounds that if the federal government did not prevent such intimidation, people would not feel safe crossing state lines.  Also, many states have suspended or abolished the death penalty, while it remains available in federal court.  State &amp;quot;sovereignty&amp;quot; is very limited and not ''actual'' sovereignty in the legal sense.  To me, this is a more interesting aspect of the Hate crime article than whether or not the definition should be expanded to include &amp;quot;gender identity.&amp;quot; [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:08, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'm not sure it happened &amp;quot;a lot&amp;quot;. There was the 'Mississippi Burning' case, where the local cops and others were charged with civil rights violations, but no one served more than a six year sentence. This is why &amp;quot;hate crime&amp;quot; legislation was added later, cause sentences were too light for a &amp;quot;civil rights violation resulting in death&amp;quot;. The problem in those days were all-white juries exonerating murder cases, so the feds invented a way they could prosecute killers. One guy was convicted in a state trial [http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/price&amp;amp;bowers/killen.htm 40 years later in 2005 of manslaughter,] but he wasn't the trigger man. No one has ever been charged with the actual killings.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Then there was Salt Lake City case of a civil rights violation resulting in death in 1978, but Utah was never part of the Confederacy, was not put under federal scrutiny in the Voting Rights Act, nor has a history of all-white jurries exonersting whites accused of murdering blacks. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::In the 90s Timothy McVeigh was the first person executed by the federal government since, like 1956.  But this was a terrorism charge resulting in death, not a civil rights violation, AFAIK. ([https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3azq6b/eli5how_timothy_mcveigh_only_got_convicted_of_8/ McVeigh was only charged with 8 counts of murder, although 168 were killed]). Since McVeigh, there's been maybe one or two other cases of people executed by the federal government.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Bottomline, the federal hate crime enhancement was added cause, while the feds proved they could get a conviction where the state failed to act, the penalty was too low. Since its inception, it's hard to find a single case that the law was used for what it was designed for. There is no evidence whatsoever that South Carolina would not prosecute Dylann Roos, or an all-white jury would have exonerated him if the feds failed to intrude. South Carolina has lost its right to govern itself, its sovereignty. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:32, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If this is true, then it definitely should be added. It would give yet another ignored example of massive governmental expansion and movement towards socialism. JDano, if the 2009 proposal did not become law, then what did the actual law consist of? If the bill that was listed on the article did not become law, then there is no point in including it. However, a legislative history of successful bills would be good. However, I am still quite busy, so I will not attempt to do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I will provide the details you seek when i get some time. You were in the top 5. --Jpatt 10:19, 16 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you for the reply Jpatt! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:40, 16 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am continuing the discussion on my talk page.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 10:39, 22 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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What would be the best word to describe Eurosceptic's opponents? Eurocentric? Pan European? Some other? I don't like globalist in this context. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:42, 28 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I would say either &amp;quot;Europeanists,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Europhiles,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Euro-Federalists&amp;quot; are the best. They either seem to be the most used terms. Of those three, I would personally opt for the first. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:00, 28 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I've noticed you sometimes change blocks by other admins to increase the time or make in infinite.  I appreciate your intentions, but just thought I would point out a couple things.  Firstly, the blocking admin generally has the final say over the block they have imposed.  For example, if a person want to dispute the ban, they are to go to the blocking admin, and that admin decides whether to revoke the ban or not (as can be seen [[Conservapedia:Quick_reference#If_you_get_blocked|here]]).  Since you are not revoking a block, it's probably not as big of an issue, but it still seems to be proper etiquette. Of course, full admins have authority over assistants such as you and I, so they have the right to direct revise of revoke blocks we make.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Secondly, While it makes good sense to block those people forever, it doesn't really work that way.  A ban applies to the username, and the IP from which they edited if the option is selected--nothing more.  Vandals almost always use servers to redirect their connection, however, so that their true IP is never seen by CP.  This means that when we block those users, we are really just blocking the server they were using.  This is a good thing too, but the problem is that these servers are usually assigned new IPs periodically, so the block no longer applies--now the blocked IP is unassigned.  Since most people in the western world still use IPv4, there are not that many spare IP addresses, so the IP is soon assigned to someone else. Now some innocent person is using an IP which for all eternity has been blocked on CP.  They probably will never even know, but if we set infinite blocks enough, the chances of that happening regularly increase continuously.  I know some people here do use infinite block regularly, but in my opinion its a logistical problem.  This is why I almost always set a time limit, or block only the username infinitely, and leave the IP unblocked (which I prefer not to do).&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your ongoing efforts! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:05, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yikes, I should have thought of that. The thought of indefinitely blocking innocent people from CP certainly is not a good thing. If you haven't reverted by block change, feel free to undo it. I'm too busy right now to do it myself. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:11, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The chances of that happening from a couple blocks are pretty low, but it can add up.  Anyway, no harm done.  I just thought I'd mention it. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:24, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Gainful employment]]. Yes. I dare you to.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 08:32, 4 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Why? What's the purpose of you messaging me? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:25, 4 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's open for you to make your suggested additions.  As to the Leif Ericson image, what needs to happen is a new image uploaded in its place.  I'll try to find one later.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 13:18, 6 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:New Leif image uploaded and added to article. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 12:56, 7 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:02, 7 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello again, Regarding the [[Addiction]] article and specifically its categories, I agree with JDano. Let me attempt to explain:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;TAR&amp;quot; is short for [[User:TheAmericanRedoubt|TheAmericanRedoubt]] a former user and assistant SysOp here at Conservapedia. People have differing opinions of him, but mine is that he did offer some valuable contributions, but also did not understand and did not learn the rules of CP. Among some other issues, he tended to add many &amp;quot;See also&amp;quot; links to articles which were not sufficiently relevant and did the same with categories.  Thus, when editors refer to &amp;quot;TAR&amp;quot; they are usually talking about this debris, which should not exist.  TheAmericanRedoubt (TAR) has since stopped editing here, and his account has been deleted.  However, some of the links and categories he inserted still exists, and make things look messy.  For this reason, a number of editors (including myself) try to clean up these issues and restore a little more order.  The guide page [[Conservapedia:How to create and maintain high-quality articles]] was the direct result of TAR's methods.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Regarding the categories specifically, it's best to maintain a &amp;quot;tree&amp;quot; structure.  A page should not connect to categories which also contain subcategories it links to. Also, it should link only to categories which contain it, not categories which the page topic can contain.  In other words, a page &amp;quot;drug&amp;quot; should be in the category &amp;quot;medicines&amp;quot; but not in a category &amp;quot;antibiotics&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I hope this clarifies a bit. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:42, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please allow me to apologize for my impatience with the &amp;quot;addiction&amp;quot; article.  You accidentally stepped into the remains of a hornets' nest.  TAR added lots of utterly irrelevant see-also's and categories, in what can only be described as an attempt to turn this wiki into survivalist-pedia, or perhaps James-Wesley-Rawles-pedia.  He offended a huge number of people with his implications that we were all supposed to stockpile bullets, batteries, and other survivalist stuff (I could look it up but it's too nauseating) and move to a &amp;quot;redoubt&amp;quot; in Idaho or similar place while we wait for the apocalypse.  We were also all supposed to be into some kind of crackpot Indian alternative medicine.  (I think it was called &amp;quot;ayurvedic&amp;quot; or something like that; once again too nauseating.)  The whole wiki was in an enormous uproar for a few months.  (And Cons, who really doesn't subscribe to that stuff, nevertheless stirred up the pot by pretending to be in email contact with the guy.)&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you see suspicious see-also's or categories, especially with codewords like &amp;quot;nanny state&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;gun-grabbing&amp;quot;, be aware this might be detritus from TAR.  I support the second amendment, but I don't support putting all this survivalist garbage into an article on fire hydrants.&lt;br /&gt;
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::It has taken a huge amount of work to undo TAR's damage.  I suppose that you think that there is a bias against any change he had made, and there is probably some truth to that.  He did not understand that our categories have a tree structure.  Instead, he thought of categories as a word association test.   Putting in excess categories and excessive red links makes Conservapedia less appealing to users and lowers our google search engine rankings.  In theory, every article could be in every category, because there is some plausible connection between any two subjects.  If we had a separate article on &amp;quot;Drug Addiction&amp;quot; then it could have categories like [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] or [[:Category:Drugs]].  The problem is that [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] is a subcategory of [[:Category:Drugs]] ''breaking up the category tree with an infinite loop.'' Here the Addiction article is on a much higher level that discusses video games, etc. So, it is not useful to a high school student looking for information about illegal drugs, in my opinion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 05:46, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thank you all for your explanations. Considering these things, I will try not to get in the way next time this clean up occurs. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:13, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
== Thanks! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You helped make [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/conservapedia.com THIS] happen. &lt;br /&gt;
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I have never seen a non-profit website go from below 100,000 rank to nearly a 50,000 Alexa ranking in about a year. And Andy payed zero dollars for internet marketing services during this period. &lt;br /&gt;
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And there is no sign of a nearing web traffic plateau. My guess is that Trump supporters/Trump era and the resulting political waves significantly explains the boost in traffic.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trump supporters seem very loyal so the traffic boost could be long lasting. It also seems like there is a reawakening of right-wing politics/nationalism that will be long lasting.  And right-wing populism and &amp;quot;[[best of the public]]&amp;quot; go together like peanut butter and jelly. :)  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:30, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You're welcome, and thank ''you'' for all your edits! I'm happy to help improve the quality of Conservapedia. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:56, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Quick project==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Guy:&lt;br /&gt;
Our state articles list the members of Congress from each state, but they have not be updated for 2016.  If five editors could update 10 states each, we would be done quickly.  Could you please take a look at [[Conservapedia:Community Portal#Political directory]]? Thanks in advance, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 16:13, 15 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your help with the project and with People's Party. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:02, 21 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your terrific work.  One tip: the licensing information should be expressly included in the uploads.  I added it here: [[File:EU_member_states.png]].  Thanks again for your edits and uploads.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:27, 7 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you for the tip. I will remember to add the information next time. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:34, 7 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Template:Book]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Try working on it now.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 10:48, 11 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A few months ago, you told me to ask you any questions I had, so here goes:&lt;br /&gt;
*When recategorizing the massive and messy [Category:Authors] by nationality, I found two authors, [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], whom I could not recategorize as [Category:American Authors].  Could you change them for me?&lt;br /&gt;
*When fixing the [[Francois Rabelais]] cedilla mess, I set up a redirect.  Has anyone ever made a loop out of redirects?  If so, what happened?  I'm scared to try it.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lastly, where is my attention now best sent - expanding the author articles, improving our coverage of science and mathematics, or maybe tackling another recat job, like [Category:Music]?&lt;br /&gt;
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:1) Concerning [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], those articles are protected, and as an assistant sysop, I do not have the ability to edit them. I recommend asking someone like [[User:Karajou]] or CP's owner, [[User:Aschlafly]] to either unlock the articles to allow you to fix the category or to have them change the cat themselves. I've made many similar requests to them and they will be happy to help.&lt;br /&gt;
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:2) I have not heard of someone doing that before. I personally don't think anything bad would happen if someone did try it, as you can still access the actual redirect page to remove the loop.&lt;br /&gt;
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:3) Honestly, all three choices are great. If I were you, I would probably choose to expand the articles already created so that the average reader would find them more interesting and worthwhile, rather than just seeing a stub. After that, I would personally move on to work on another category, so that CP is better-organized. Then after that, I would do math and science, which is (as far as I can tell) on a different theme than your other work. This is my personal preference, but if you would prefer doing it in a different order feel free! You have been very helpful to CP, and I appreciate your work. Keep it up! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:20, 14 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Hi, just a quick note: A redirect loop shouldn't be a problem.  I think the user is only redirected once, so after that they see the second redirect page.  Redirect loops, double redirects, and dead redirects should all be avoided when possible.  Thanks for your contributions! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:23, 14 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You are entirely correct, DavidB4; I just tried a loop with soda and pop (and removed it).  Typing one would give you the page for the other, and an option to redirect.  I'll proceed to expand the author pages now.  Feel free to removed this section to abridge the talk page.--[[User:Abcqwe|Abcqwe]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 15:58, 15 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Could you please write this article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please write this important article: [[Atheism and ethics]]? &lt;br /&gt;
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I may ask another writer or tow to contribute to it also.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:07, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, I think I will be able to find some time to do it. Unfortunately, I have other things on my to-do list (even for CP), but this article is important, and I will try to find time to help. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:10, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::OK. Thanks. I think [[User:Pokeria1]] will be assisting you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:55, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Sources to help you write an article ===&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.spectator.co.uk/2014/04/ethics-for-atheists/# Would human life be sacred in an atheist world?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheists_more_immoral.html Atheism Doesn't Lead to Immoral Behavior - Or Does It?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheism_determinism_morality.html Does Atheism (Determinism) Negatively Impact Morality?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://apologetics-notes.comereason.org/2015/03/atheism-ethics-and-immorality.html Atheism, Ethics, and Immorality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.thinkingchristian.net/posts/2016/01/good-nothing-make-atheist-ethics-better-christian/ Being Good “For Nothing” — Does That Make Atheist Ethics Better Than Christian?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/questions-on-atheism-ethics-and-marital-conflict Questions on Atheism, Ethics, and Marital Conflict]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]&lt;br /&gt;
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Additional sources:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by Paul Copan&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://themelios.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-amorality-of-atheism The amorality of atheim] by Rob Smith&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/can-we-be-good-without-godCan Can we be good without God?] by William Lane Craig]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics and morality] by Ken Ammi&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.doesgodexist.org/NovDec06/AtheisticExplanations.html Atheist explanations of morality and common sense]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2015/09/does_being_an_atheist_interfer.html Does being an atheist interfere with being moral?] by Lydia McGrew&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://americanvision.org/2742/nietzsche-slaps-down-dawkins-on-the-illusion-of-atheist-morality/ Nietzsche slaps down Dawkins on the illusion of atheist morality] by Dr. Joel McDurmon&lt;br /&gt;
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== quick note ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you be interested in email communication with me? My email is userconservative135@gmail.com &lt;br /&gt;
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Please let me know if you are interested. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:54, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, that would be great! I've been thinking for some time of setting up a CP email address account, and I'll do that within the next couple of days. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:29, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK. That sounds good. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:02, 19 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Here it is: 1990sguysdg@gmail.com --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 21 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I just sent you an email. Let me know if you got it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:10, 21 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I wrote another response to your email. Please check your email box. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:05, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I got your latest email and responded to it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== If you are interested, another article that needs to be created ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If you are interested, another article that needs to be created: [[Secular ethics]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sources about this topic:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_ethics Secular ethics]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:11, 20 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== A couple more article suggestions related to atheism and morality ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, here are a few more articles that need to be written about atheism and morality:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Evolutionary ethics]], Wikipedia has an article on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_ethics&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Ethical naturalism]], Wikipedia has an article on it at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_naturalism&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Ethical subjectivism]], Wikipedia has an article on this subject at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_subjectivism&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your assistance on the [[Atheism and ethics]] article. It was much appreciated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:21, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Project I invited you to participate in plus   ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is the project I invited you to participate in: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Conservapedia:Atheism Project]]&lt;br /&gt;
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It should be easy to find relevant online material in order to create some of the articles. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:19, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you, Conservative, for your suggestions. I will begin on some of these soon. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:53, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I sent you an email. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:57, 24 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blocking user &amp;quot;reformed&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, I've got to say that vandalizing the user page of someone with block authority is '''really''' stupid.&lt;br /&gt;
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But I take issue with your claim that he was an &amp;quot;obvious sock&amp;quot;.  As one who has been blocked a number of times on completely bogus socking charges, I take that stuff seriously.  (The blocking was generally done by someone (now deceased) who had &amp;quot;checkuser&amp;quot; privileges and therefore had good tools for detecting socks, but did not understand how internet addresses work.)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is not at all obvious to me, as one who has a lot of experience at CP, that he was a sock.  He was a vandal, and you should block him for that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, dear.  Now I see that there's a big storm of this stuff going on.  And, yes, these guys, or at least some of them, are probably socks of each other.  And at least one of them is using the name &amp;quot;obvioussock&amp;quot;, just to taunt you.  And one says he used to be a washing machine in his previous life.&lt;br /&gt;
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My goodness!  I think you are being trolled!  :-)  :-)  And no, I had nothing to do with this.  Just block them.  It will blow over soon.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:54, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you for your message. :) Due to the fact that &amp;quot;reformed&amp;quot; was created right after I blocked two users and vandalized my user page, I assumed that it was a clear sock of one or both of them. However, as it was not clear to you and possibly others, I changed the block settings to just include vandalism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:06, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Screw up==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I'm working with a tablet, and it's a piece of garbage. I didn't intentionally remove your comments. Sorry. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:31, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Assuming you're referring to those at [[Talk:Main Page]], apology accepted. It can happen to the best of us. They were other user's edits, however. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:33, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thank you ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For your reverts yesterday on my userpage, saw the sock puppet master was not finished with his trolling. [[User:YortKeldher|YortKeldher]] ([[User talk:YortKeldher|talk]]) 07:37, 26 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:54, 26 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your improvements to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination]]. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 16:13, 29 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:30, 29 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== small request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you a message at the last place we communicated. Can you please read that message? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:59, 6 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I sent you the information I promised.  It is located at the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:36, 6 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sent you message. Please check place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:::I sent you a quick note to the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:51, 18 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Could you please go to the place we last communicated? It is regarding another matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Photo size==&lt;br /&gt;
With a large photo, there is much more word wrap in the table of contents, which makes it even longer.  We need a wide table of contents. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 19:08, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I've checked and double-checked, and I see no way how the larger-sized photo does anything to the table of contents. And I'm using a standard Google Chrome, 100% zoom screen. Could it be your search engine/zoom? I don't see any reason why the larger image is a problem in any way. I think it looks better, regardless. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:06, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::On Firefox the TOC is longer due to word wrap.  You can get other pictures to help fill the space, but the space will be shorter if the TOC is wider. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:19, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I am getting a lot of 500 errors.  I will wait for you to finish, and then I will go back and apply my changes. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:07, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have done my changes. But please, when making those changes, please do ''not'' revert changes I have made, particularly changes that I have already reverted you multiple times. I'm tired of these disputes. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:09, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== IRC ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
After some discussion (on [[User_talk:DavidB4#Conservapedia_IRC_channel|my talk page]] and [[User_talk:Aschlafly#IRC|Andy's]]) it has been decided that I start an [[Internet Relay Chat]] channel for Conservapedia, since our old one has been dead since 2009.  It is now registered and somewhat set up.  I don't know if you use IRC or are interested in doing so, but anyone with block privileges on Conservapedia can also get block privileges on the new IRC channel.  Unfortunately, IRC accounts are deleted after 30 days of being unused, so unless you plan on using the IRC at least once a month, there is probably not much point in registering.  In any case, feel free to try it out--if you account gets deleted, we can always make another one later.  If you are interested, please let me know!&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The IRC channel is: #conservapedia @irc.accessIRC.net&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Let me know if you have any questions or need anything else, also! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:33, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you for your response. I have never used or really even heard of IRC prior before now (or, more accurately, before you and Andy started talking about it). What is the purpose of IRC? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:47, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It is perhaps the oldest form of instant messaging.  It is basically a chat room, where people can join and idle or actively chat.  Visitors can ask members questions, and members can collaborate.  There is even file sharing, if that would be useful.  I'm going to be writing a how-to-use guide to explain the actual usage better.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Most people use software clients, which they install (or run portably, which a whole different story), but web clients are also available, such as [https://kiwiirc.com/client?settings=7c7240c62a5d4861a8ad0ba697929f39 this one].  With the web client, you can just pick a name and connect, without installing anything.  Also, since IRC has been around so long, software for it is compatible with almost anything.  All desktop and most mobile operating systems support it. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:55, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the info! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:24, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Vandal ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Already took care of that and left a note for [[User talk:Teapublican|Teapublican]] on his talk page. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:09, 20 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:08, 20 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Recent item on maintalk -- congratulations! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I just couldn't resist making fun of you there.  I immediately recognized the Breitbart article, as one that I had seen shortly before.  And then I saw that it was you.  No hard feelings, I hope.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 23:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:None at all. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:37, 24 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Congratulations!  The [[March for Science]] article is a ''really good article''.  And you made it so.  (Well, with a little prodding from me.)  It sets out, straightforwardly, what was going on, and it doesn't descend into namecalling.  I realize that you probably have very strong disagreements with what most of those people were doing, but you kept it professional.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Really good articles, especially on potential &amp;quot;hot button&amp;quot; issues of politics, aren't all that common.  Now maybe I will make another attempt to return the [[Pussy Riot]] article to the good state it was in back when I expanded it in 2014, before it got messed up with the implication that anyone who opposes murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin must be a &amp;quot;leftist&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;elitist&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;social justice warrior&amp;quot;.  For which I was blocked, in blatant violation of the rules of this site.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 14:25, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thank you for the compliment! Unfortunately, the router I'm using blocked the &amp;quot;Pussy Riot&amp;quot; article because of the first word in the title, so I cannot comment on that at all. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:00, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::How sad.  I have created the redirect [[Nadezhda Tolokonnikova]] in case that helps.  But it probably won't.  You had no trouble typing the &amp;quot;P&amp;quot; word above, so I guess it's a problem of your router not going to a page with that word in the title.  Maybe I should have named the page with its Cyrillc letters: &amp;quot;Пусси Райот&amp;quot;.  Well, you're not missing anything of cosmic importance.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 16:42, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The redirect actually did work. Thanks! The article does not appear to have a high quality (at least in the aesthetic sense), so changes would probably be beneficial, but if you're going to make changes, I would like to remind you to be cautious and not to contradict CP's POV. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:17, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::In case you forgot, Sam &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;(and how fast it appears that happens with you)&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;, it was ''you'' who violated the rules of this site by putting a liberal POV into that article (among others, [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/SamHB per your history]) in the first place, then insistently readding it after your edit was reverted and you were warned about violating CP policy and about starting fights with other editors. You really should take the advice you're being given here and not continue violating CP policy. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 21:59, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Today is my 9th anniversary at Conservapedia!&lt;br /&gt;
*I can assure everyone that I am very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP.  I am also familiar with the many, many, many discussions of these points that have taken place over the years.&lt;br /&gt;
*@Northwest: this is the expected response.&lt;br /&gt;
*@1990's guy: this is ''not'' the response I expected.  I'm chagrined that you think the article is of low quality.  Especially since you know how to write high quality articles.&lt;br /&gt;
I'm serious.  I was proud of that article as originally written/expanded by me.  I thought it laid out the facts accurately, and avoided name-calling and such.  Exactly like the March for Science article.  Please look at the article (preferably the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Pussy_Riot&amp;amp;oldid=1328015] version, before name-calling got put in) and fix it up as you see fit.  The name-calling consisted, among other things, of saying that those people around the world who took an interest in the case were &amp;quot;elitists&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;social justice warriors on the left&amp;quot;.  The latter term is straight out of Huffington Post and their ilk.  It is a term of bleeding hearts in America, and not used widely elsewhere.  In any case, one doesn't need to be an SJW to oppose murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin.  In fact, given the recent falling out between President Trump and Putin, the accepted orthodoxy here at CP might be swinging away from support for the murderous thug.  I hope so.&lt;br /&gt;
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:My problem is not with content; it is with organization, layout, aesthetics, etc. There are no subsections, which at least show the reader how the article is organized; it is just many paragraphs. Such articles do not appeal to the reader. IMO, it feels like reading a textbook. If it is just a few paragraphs, it is fine, but thus article has ten paragraphs. Adding a few headers and possibly an image would be beneficial (and I realized just as I wrote this that the March for Science article is approaching that length as well, so I probably either should just keep my mouth shut or add headers there as well). I did not mean to insult or degrade your work, and I apologize for giving that impression. BTW, happy 9th anniversary! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 28 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sam - by your response, you're only proving what I said about your tactics and your history here right. You claim to be &amp;quot;very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP&amp;quot;, but you only pay lip service to them here while your actions on CP over the years (and even now) are showing that you simply choose to disregard them for the sake of pushing liberal POV on this site and to start fights with those who don't share your viewpoint. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 18:08, 28 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bill Nye ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please contact me by email at sam4557@gmail.com?  I think we can make a really good article out of this.  I have a number of criticisms of his behavior--my opinion of him has gone down a whole lot over the last few weeks, and I think I have some insights about this that I'd like to bounce off of you.  I know that you and I disagree totally about evolution and creationism, but we can put together a good article stating the facts.  We can stay away from the name-calling that so many articles contain, and avoid things like &amp;quot;so-and-so falsely believes that ...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is ''not'' about Pussy Riot, ''not'' about Conservapedia politics, and ''not'' about you-know-who.  I just want to bounce some ideas off of you about Bill Nye and see if we can put together a really nice article.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Expanded article, footnote did not support genocide/racist abortions adequately ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I greatly expanded this article [[Abortion and eugenics]].  The footnote in the liberal article was not supporting or at the very least inadequately supporting racist/genocidal abortion policies of [[Margaret Sanger]], etc. &lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically, I skimmed the article as far as the footnoted article and it did not appear to strongly support such a big claim like abortion/genocide, etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:26, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Something isn't right here==&lt;br /&gt;
... Ohhh I know what it is. ''Margaret Thatcher'' is on the list of liberals. ''Margaret. Thatcher.'' The bastion of conservatism. A favourite of Reagan. How in the ''world'' did she make the liberal list? [[User:Koidevelopment|Vive]] [[User talk:Koidevelopment|Liberté!]] 09:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wasn't me who added her. She was not as conservative as people think she is, as she did vote in favor of legalizing abortion and homosexuality. But, that said, it would probably be better without mentioning her, to avoid people focusing on her mention in the article. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:24, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::She might not have been a perfect conservative, but I still think she probably doesn't belong on that list.  Of course, if you go back 80 years and read writings and speeches from liberals of the day, they sound downright conservative now.  Still, she did defend liberty and much of conservatism. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Lady Thatcher's criticism of Simon Callow's performance in ''Amadeaus'' made her homophobic, I thought. Being homophobic wouldn't preclude one from being liberal however, [[Bill Moyers]] and Louis Black for example. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:31, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I assume that adding the liberalism template to the [[Episcopal Church]] article was improper? I would like to know what the proper usage of this template is for future reference. TEC is one of, if not the most liberal Christian denomination in the US these days, sadly. I do apologize for this improper usage, as I am a new editor. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:00, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello Anglican! I removed the template because I thought the article was outside the scope of the &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot; template. What I mean is that the template links to liberal traits, but not necessarily to liberal organizations. I think the category is good for the article, but not template. I hope this helps! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That makes sense. Thank you for your patience. It's sad what has happened to the Episcopal Church in recent years. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You're welcome, and I agree. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on liberalism. So... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on [[liberalism]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The article needs major improvements. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am not going to work on it due to time restraints. I spent a lot of time improving the [[liberal]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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I would use the same approach used with the liberal article. Clearly delineate liberalism from socialism/fascism because they are very substantially different (for example, Sweden vs. Communist China vs. Nazi Germany). But mention how the gap between the ideologies has narrowed in the United States. I don't keep up with European politics to know the situation there as far as the gap other than knowing that China has become more capitalistic. European countries commonly have more major political parties in a country so the situation is more difficult to keep tabs on.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:33, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I posted the below information on RobS' talk page and thought I would share it with you also. You can go to RobS' talk page to see his response to me. &lt;br /&gt;
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::I would work on the liberalism article. But also create 2-3 sub-articles: [[American liberalism]] and [[Western liberalism]] and [[European liberalism]].  The [[American liberalism]] article is just a one sentence stub article. &lt;br /&gt;
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::I suggest a [[Western liberalism]] article due to the Canadians, Australia, NZ, and South Africa. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:09, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Since the Brits and Canadians have the most influence in the Anglosphere on the USA, you might want to create a [[British liberalism]] article and a [[Canadian liberalism]] article too. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::Its too bad all this wasn't done before given that CP is a political website. I was largely focused on [[atheism]] which is a dying ideology. This had an indirect relation to liberalism given the prominence of the [[secular left]] on liberal/leftist politics. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: American liberalism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I copied and pasted some of the [[liberal]] article into the [[American liberalism]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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Generally speaking, ideally you want the material in the section for main article linking to a sub-article to have substantially different content. In this case, you want the [[American liberalism]] article to have different content than the &amp;quot;American liberalism&amp;quot; section of the [[liberal]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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So if you want to reword and/or add material to the [[American liberalism]] article the would be excellent. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Opinion on renaming an article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wanted your opinion on an idea of mines to rename one of our articles on Conservapedia before taking it to an admin or someone with the ability to actually change the name of a page.&lt;br /&gt;
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The current page [[Exodus of Israel]], I think, should be renamed to [[The Exodus]], where [[Exodus of Israel]] should simply be a redirect to that page. Not many users would think of typing 'Exodus of Israel' to get to a page on 'The Exodus', and 'The Exodus' is just much simpler. As it is, [[The Exodus]] is currently a redirect to [[Exodus of Israel]]. I think it should be the other way around. Your thoughts?[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 13:34, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I think it is better the way it is. My main reason is that having titles along the lines of &amp;quot;The....&amp;quot; does not sound encyclopedic. The current name, I believe, is more high quality for that reason. Now, it is true that many users might not think of typing &amp;quot;Exodus of Israel,&amp;quot; but if they type &amp;quot;[[Exodus]],&amp;quot; they'll run into the disambiguation page and find the actual article. Also, I'm not sure that many people would think of typing &amp;quot;The Exodus.&amp;quot; To sum it up, I think the current title is better and give the article a more encyclopedic feel, but you're welcome to ask another editor what they think. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the thoughts. Wikipedia currently uses 'The Exodus', and I find that it simply looks better, as a title, then 'Exodus of Israel'. Secondly, I also consider it more likely for someone to type in 'The Exodus' then 'Exodus of Israel'.[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 15:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Once again, if you want to ask another editor for their opinion, like DavidB4, feel free to do so. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:20, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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At this point, all relevant pages have been created, and therefore this template no longer will ever need any more editing as it is complete. So the best thing to do is to get it locked to avoid any vandalism problems in the future. Just to note, before I came on, it was already locked, even though it still had many problems. Now that the template is fixed, the best thing to do is to get it locked. [[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 20:57, 12 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I recommend asking [[User:Aschlafly]] or [[User:Karajou]]. They have protection powers. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:15, 12 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Block length==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your alert blocks.  But one year is a long time for a block.  IP addresses often change in a shorter period.  You might consider 3 months as a better block duration in many cases.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:25, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK. I'll see to that. Should I change the blocks I just did? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:26, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just went ahead and changed them. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:41, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Congratulations on Donald Trump accomplishments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, I just checked Google.  While that movie award comes up first when &amp;quot;Donald Trump achievements,&amp;quot; is Googled, and you are the first result after, you get nice results with certain other phrases:&lt;br /&gt;
*Donald Trump accomplishments - third link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
*Trump achievements - first link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
*Trump accomplishments - fourth link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
*Donald Trump achievements and failures - fourth link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
While Conservative's essays come up first when their exact titles are Googled, bear in mind that these phrases are Googled more frequently.&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations on the publicity, 1990sguy!--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 08:07, 25 May 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Great job, it is well deserved! - -[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, Nathan and DavidB, I appreciate it! It seems I chose the right article to create, in terms of gaining page views. For a while, when one searched the exact title of my article, that silly award was not at the top of the article, and in its place was a box with a picture of Trump linking to my article. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:24, 25 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you chat briefly?  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we chat briefly? Can you please go to place I sent you messages before? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:16, 3 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Here is the the article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Liberal vs. libertarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:54, 3 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== It's been great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You've been helpful since I you first welcomed me here - me, someone who had never used wikitext or HTML in his life and never believed in a young Earth.  You've really made me consider that viewpoint, and you've done it with a brilliant personal appeal, far better than User:Conservative ever has.--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 16:34, 4 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Europe's childless leaders==&lt;br /&gt;
Where do you think [http://dcwhispers.com/rather-odd-troubling-fact-european-leaders/ we can squeeze this in] [[European migrant crisis]]? In the Intro or elsewhere? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:13, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think that would be a good idea. We could also, possibly, add it to the [[European Union]] article, and maybe [[Globalism]] or [[Liberal]], as these leaders advocate for left-wing globalist policies. Are you able to find other sources that note this fact? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:53, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this also illustrates liberal European values. They support mass immigration of peoples who do not share their culture while they themselves have no children. They are committing national/cultural suicide. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:15, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The reason I removed Ted Nugent from Notable Texans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because Ted Nugent is actually from Michigan. Sorry that I forgot to add an explanation. ([[User:King Conservative|King Conservative]] ([[User talk:King Conservative|talk]]) 13:37, 17 June 2017 (EDT)King Conservative)&lt;br /&gt;
:I removed him from the list. Thanks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:16, 17 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, guy! Thanks for the {{tl|See also}} in [[Neil Gorsuch]]. That template works better. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:53, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome, always happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:58, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Nasty edit summaries==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear 1990sguy:  Please stop writing inflammatory edit summaries.  There is no need to make false personal attacks on other editors.  As for Breitbart, each reference is evaluated individually on its own merits.  If it is news reporting, I welcome it.  However, some references are clearly opinion-editorial pieces that criticize other news stories instead of offering any independent news gathering.  Some authors there are editorial-opinion writers rather than news reporters.  Also, when I check a source and see photos of immodestly dressed women with &amp;quot;wardrobe malfunction&amp;quot; captions or women wearing tight T-shirts imprinted with &amp;quot;no silicone&amp;quot;, I am less inclined to use those sources, given our family-friendly approach. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:31, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Conservapedia has no requirement that only news reporter sources can be used for mews sources. For example, many excellent conservative editorial pieces link to a news story or quote a news story while providing excellent commentary. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The mainstream press. which is very liberal, have a lot more reporters and they still have some foreign bureaus if I am not mistaken. Then you have Fox which only has a fraction of the combined viewership of ABC, CBS, and NBC.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, there are conservative news organizations such as CNS News. But I don't think we should limit ourselves to merely using conservative news organizations as far as news sources.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:54, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree with Conservative on this. We can use conservative news sources, even if the articles appear to be editorializing. This is a conservative encyclopedia, after all. Why should we adopt editing policies that give liberal MSM sources an unfair advantage? How then can we differentiate ourselves from Wikipedia? I am not opposed to citing MSM sources (I do it myself), but we should give precedence to conservative sources, which do not have leftist bias. Yes, Breitbart has silly ads, but I care more about the content of the article than the ads. There are many Breitbart writers who support conservative, Christian pro-family policies. Are there any at CNN or the NYT?&lt;br /&gt;
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::JDano, yes, my edit summaries were inflammatory. I probably should have acted cooler when dealing with you, and for that, I apologize. Your behavior, constantly reverting and adding changes that I genuinely believe to contain leftist bias without going to the talk page until you've been reverted several times, is not constructive. I do believe your changes are undermining our status as a conservative alternative to Wikipedia. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 02:50, 29 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== re: JDano and you getting &amp;quot;horse throwing&amp;quot; mad ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the recent edit changes, I saw you use all caps in your description of your edit. It was for the [[Travel ban]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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This tells me that you are starting to get &amp;quot;horse throwing&amp;quot; mad. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it becomes necessary, you can impose a [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]] to JDano since you have blocking rights. You can make it applicable to certain articles or certain article categories. Probably a certain article would be best as a shot across his bow. &lt;br /&gt;
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If JDano also has blocking rights, you can get Karajou/Aschlafly to impose such a ban. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:29, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:P.S. I don't know if you are correct in this matter. And I don't have time to mediate. I am just offering you a suggestion since I have experienced JDano being unreasonable at times. Also, the majority of Conservapedians/Republicans/conservatives are more fans of Trump than Lindsey Graham.  JDano appears to be in the Graham camp. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:37, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Please see my comment in the section immediately above. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 02:51, 29 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the &amp;quot;travel ban&amp;quot; article.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just posted this message to JDano's talk page:&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in terms of its Muslim population. The travel ban of the Trump administration does not include Indonesia.&amp;quot;[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:13, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the fake news article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The [[fake news]] article was locked/protected. It seems as if the root cause of the page being locked was an edit war involving yourself. &lt;br /&gt;
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You are no longer allowed to edit the fake news article. I am imposing a Conservapedia topic ban on you for this article. See: [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope additional topic bans are not imposed on you by people with block rights.&amp;quot; [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:23, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Socks of JamesWilson  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Socks of this clown should receive five year bans. He is a malicious provocateur, and he singlehandedly destroyed another website as well as leading dozens of people off this site. Show this schlemiel no mercy. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:16, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't see why we should be giving long blocks to this guy. He's clearly using multiple ip addresses. These addresses will probably get passed to one or more people who have no intention of vandalizing CP. DavidB4 explained by long blocks are not a good idea on my talk page: [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:1990%27sguy&amp;amp;diff=1304184&amp;amp;oldid=1303142] However, I will not challenge your lengthening of that block or any other. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:20, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe you do have a point because he has created a few different accounts in the past day or so. All I'm saying is that lightening up on him isn't going to work. My late friend George let this guy off easy, and he destroyed an entire community. I've had plenty of experience with this guy in the past to know his MO, and he's fanatically obsessed with Taylor Swift and &amp;quot;avenging&amp;quot; others because they &amp;quot;ruined&amp;quot; his articles. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:28, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That's fair. This guy is clearly bad news. Regardless of what block lengths we give him (and I can see some sense in making them longer), we should try not to accidently prevent innocent people from viewing CP. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:30, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::How do we know that this editor is a &amp;quot;sock&amp;quot; of JamesWilson?  Has anyone checked the IP user logs?  The Taylor Swift connection could be a false-flag operation. If George and James got into an edit-war on a different website, that would not be relevant here.  Let's judge each editor separately until they can be linked by evidence. Are all of the problem users created in the past few days created from the same or very similar IP addresses? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:27, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::He put &amp;quot;Sad case!- James Wilson&amp;quot; in the edit summary of all of his vandalism, and it was the same stuff he's always done. If he says it's him, I'm just gonna assume it's him. Dont give this guy the benefit of the doubt. He's had plenty enough breaks here and elsewhere. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 16:03, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::@JDano: Yes, I think it clearly is JamesWilson. His vandalism is very repetitive -- he even vandalizes the user pages of the same users. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:52, 4 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*FYI, even if an account is blocked indefinitely, the autoblock on the IPs is only for twenty-four hours. If the IP block was for as long as the account's block, checkusers wouldn't have to put separate blocks on persistent vandals' IP addresses. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 18:26, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Articles==&lt;br /&gt;
Since I've written a few articles on Christianity, please feel free to edit them to conform to the views of Conservapedia if necessary. Admittedly, writing about Christianity as a Jew can be a bit difficult at times. --[[User:RonaldB|Ronald]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:35, 5 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have not seen any factual problems with the articles you created. However, I do recommend that you add categories of the religion you are writing about to those articles. For example, that you add &amp;quot;Category:Christianity&amp;quot; to [[Secular Christianity]] and &amp;quot;Category:Judaism&amp;quot; to [[Secular Judaism]]. The people who practice these are not Jews (religiously speaking) or Christians, but the articles are relevant to those religions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Also, I recommend that you add at least one source to the articles you create. Adding sources to articles is Commandment #2 in [[Conservapedia:Commandments]], and it makes the articles better for readers. They know where you are getting your information from, and they can read further if they are interested. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:51, 6 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Changing my username ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know if Andy saw my request on his talk page. Did he skip it or didn't see it? --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 9:18, 10 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know. Sometimes he does that, but when I message him again he usually replies. I recommend commenting again, letting him know how much you want your username changed, and asking him to respond. I think we will do it, but only if you absolutely want it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:49, 10 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I read [[User_talk:Aschlafly#Inquiry|the back and forth]] with the guy you probably were referring to on Andy's page. Andy seemed pretty reluctant to change the RonaldB's name for most of the discussion.. Is the process of changing someone's username complex or difficult to do, or did he just want to make sure that the guy wasn't being wishy-washy about the change? I was a little sheepish about asking him again because I don't want to seem annoying. --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 5:07, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think CP admins generally prefer simply creating a new account. The user who made the other request was not the original person using the account. The original person let him take over the account. I can see why Andy wanted him to create a new account. I recommend you politely letting him know how much you want your username changed, and why, and asking him to respond, regardless of his answer. I think that would be a good move on your part. It would show how serious you are with this request. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:06, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Trump ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think Donald Trump is going to get stuck with the blame for the economic bubble created by the Obama administration and the Federal Reserve.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwtkIpgAnA]  &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, TrumpCare probably will not work because it is keeping the &amp;quot;precondition clause&amp;quot; of ObamaCare due to its popularity. People will often not buy health insurance until they are sick. So the health care system will not be viable. Car insurance companies could not be profitable if people could buy their car insurance after their car accident in order to replace their car. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:00, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You are probably right on both of those things. The first point would be the fault of the Obama Administration, and the second by the establishment GOP Congress. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Got it, thanks for letting me know. --[[User:OneTrueConservative|OneTrueConservative]] ([[User talk:OneTrueConservative|talk]]) 00:12, 12 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 00:21, 12 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Expansion of right-wing material on the internet ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.axios.com/the-partisan-explosion-of-digital-news-2279022772.html The recent explosion of right-wing news sites]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3dy7vb/why-the-right-is-dominating-youtube Why the Right Is Dominating YouTube] - Vice News&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.nctv.nl/binaries/psychological-effects-of-right-wing-and-islamic-extremist-internet-videos_tcm31-30177.pdf Psychological effects of right-wing and Islamic extremist videos]  - Netherlands and German report&lt;br /&gt;
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I haven't looked at the latter two items, but right-wingers gaining momentum on the internet is an interesting development.  With nationalism gaining ground in Europe and 21st century [[desecularization]] occurring, the trend is bound to continue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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===Scriptural Geology===&lt;br /&gt;
Scriptural Geologists published in the USA as well.  CRSQ published my review of David Lord &amp;quot;Geognosy&amp;quot; (that has other citations as well). [my magazines are in &lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks, Snoopy2, for your addition! I noted this fact, briefly in the article, in &amp;quot;The scriptural geologists&amp;quot; section. I knew that most of the Scriptural Geologists were British, and I did not have the time or knowledge of them to go into much more detail. Thanks for your help! Please remember to sign your posts in the future. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:06, 31 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== important message for you ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you an important message to the last place we communicated. &lt;br /&gt;
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I also have some good news for you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:10, 13 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BLOCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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BLOCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your great blocks but they should generally not exceed 6 months in duration.  By then the IP address is typically being used by someone else.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:27, 27 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK. I will keep that in mind. I will change this vandal's block. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:46, 27 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Björn Höcke nannte das Holocaust-Mahnmal ein &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot;. Zudem sprach er von einer &amp;quot;dämlichen Bewältigungspolitik&amp;quot; und forderte eine &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot;. Hinterher behauptete Höcke, er hätte den Holocaust als Schande bezeichnet. Wenn man sich nun seine Rede genau anschaut, kann er nur das Denkmal als Schande bezeichnet haben. Höcke hat offen NS-Gedankengut offenbart und dies auch gewollt. Er ist ein Agent des BRD-Systems, die zum Ziel haben, die AfD unwählbar zu machen. Dasselbe haben sie schon mit der NPD gemacht (in den 90er Jahren). Ich find's ja auch schade, dass die AfD unterwandert wurde und nicht mehr wählbar ist. Auch ich habe große Hoffnungen in sie gesetzt. Aber spätestens seit dem letzten Parteitag ist sie unwählbar, die Neo-Nazis gewannen die Oberhand, Gauland wurde Spitzenkandidat. Solange Petry keine neue Partei gründet, müssen Rechtschaffene bei der Bundestagswahl das geringste Übel wählen (z.B. die Freien Wähler oder die BüSo). Aber die AfD ist klar von NS-Agenten unterwandert und ich schrieb noch mehr in den Artikel, also lassen Sie mich zumindest Höckes Rede einfügen, dann kann sich jeder selber ein Bild machen. MfG --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 10:16, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Grüetzi Elessar, CP ist ein Englisher website, so es ist besser wann wir in English schreiben. Ich denke dass die meisten leute heir sprechen kein Deutsch. Danke. Wass ich sage ist sehr kontrovers in Deutschland, aber, Ich probiere ein klares und gutes antwort zum geben:&lt;br /&gt;
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:First off, many political parties have their crazy members. I know that UKIP explicitly disavows racism, but it has had some members who have said some silly things. I definitely do ''not'' believe the GOP in the U.S. is racist, but David Duke considers himself a Republican (and every other Republican disavows him). Even the Swiss People's Party in my country (I am also a U.S. citizen) has some members who have said racist things. Just because parties have members like this does not necessarily mean that the entire party is racist or whatever. In the case of Höcke's speech, Petry (the party leader, as you know) condemned what he said, or at least criticized him.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Second, I know the mindset that the German have today. They are still ashamed for what they did during World War II, and they are still focused on trying to make restitution. Personally, I think it is good that they have repented, but they miss the fact that there are two extremes: one extreme is what the Nazis did, the other is being so ashamed bad things one did that they essentially hate their country. We see this with liberals in the United States. I think the German mindset is too far in the second extreme -- and no, I am anywhere close to being a racist or Nazi. Patriotism and nationalism can be very good things, as long as they are handled correctly and are not an excuse to persecute others. The German people, I think, are trying to extinguish them, and they have accused people, even those in the middle of those two extremes, as being Nazis.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Let me also make clear that I have not read much about Björn Höcke's speech, other than what you provided and what his English Wikipedia article states, so I cannot comment on his entire speech and his entire character. He may very well be what you say he is. However, what I read about his speech and about him actually seems reasonable. Many peoples all over the world have done many evil things -- slavery in the U.S. and the other European colonies, the Islamic slave trade, religious persecution in Rome and the communist nations, the several genocides in history, etc. However, it is not constructive for cultures to focus on these events. It is good to remember them and repent of them, but not to obsess about them. There is much more to German history than World War II, just as there is more to U.S. history than slavery. Why can't we build monuments celebrating the positive things about our cultures and our people? It is cultural suicide not to do so. While we should not forget the bad events, we should focus on the good events and remain proud as a people in order to remain strong. This seems to me what Höcke is getting at. Am I wrong?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Reading his Wikipedia article, I came accross this quote: &amp;quot;Die Syrer, die zu uns kommen, haben immer noch Syrien. Wenn wir – durch die Syrer – unser Deutschland verloren haben, dann haben wir keine Heimat mehr.&amp;quot; I can see how in Germany this is very controversial, but I think in most other countries, this is quite reasonable. It may not be a bad thing if Syrians come, but it would mean that the German people would be in danger of disappearing, at least in a cultural sense. If someone values this (as most people of all ethnicies and nationalities do -- just ask the Poles or Hungarians), they will strongly oppose immigration.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Am I wrong in what I am saying? Am I misrepresenting Höcke? I would appreciate some dialogue. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:18, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::No, you aren't wrong and I too was never questioning that the &amp;quot;eternal fault&amp;quot; (electing Hitler/WW2) which is propagated by German liberals is bullshit. I only mean that Höcke was not only saying that, but he also clearly favorized the Holocaust by calling for an &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot; and calling the Holocaust monument a &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot;. This speech was much criticized by Jewish organizations in Germany and Höcke was forbidden to visit Concentration Camp Memorials. He's not a single exemption, but there are unfortunately already lots of neo-Nazis or neo-Nazi sympathizers in the AfD who are all defending Höcke's speech, including Spitzenkandidat Alexander Gauland. Party leader Petry was forced by them not to participate. These (real) neo-Nazis are system agents who are overrunning the AfD like they did decades ago with the NPD in order to make these parties uneligible by conservative voters. But of course many liberals call all ''real'' conservatives &amp;quot;neo-Nazis&amp;quot; which there is nonsense. But Höcke is really a neo-Nazi and anti-semite and should be excluded together with his inner-party defenders. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 14:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I don't understand how the &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot; shows that Höcke is a neo-Nazi. It seems to be saying that German policy on these matters needs to change, which I also think is reasonable. The culture of shame in Germany must end -- when will Egypt build a monument mourning the Islamic slave trade, and when will Turkey build a monument mourning the Armenian Genocide? That's what I think he is saying. Am I wrong? Please explain.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::While I am a strong supporter of Israel, I do think that many Jewish organizations in Europe and the United States are politically left-wing -- unlike the current Israeli government. The fact that they opposed Höcke's speech is unsurprising, even if he is not a neo-Nazi. Most European/American Jews support the ruling establishment's views on who is extreme and who is &amp;quot;moderate.&amp;quot; And besides, Jewish organizations have their own interests. It's reasonable for them to defend monuments mourning a genocide of their own people, regardless of whether having such a monument, or at least the mindset behind it, is a good thing or not.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It seems to me that you are making a jump from noting what Höcke is saying to calling him a neo-Nazi. A lot of what he is saying seems reasonable, even if it is better that he watches what he says more closely, and I don't see how these comments make them neo-Nazis (I do see, however, how such comments are far outside the current German mainstream, and that they make such parties less attractive to moderate Germans). It seems to me that Höcke is a nationalist who is angry at the culture of shame in his country, which is probably the reason why it is being flooded with immigrants and weakened by the EU. Many conservatives said silly things (that sounded extremely racist) about Obama when he was U.S. President, even though those people would have voted for conservative blacks (Ben Carson, Allen West, Herman Cain) or Hispanics (Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz) in a heartbeat. Could it be that this is what Höcke is doing?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::My last thing I want to say in this comment is not related to the above. I would like to remind you that CP is a family-friendly encyclopedia, and I think this policy also applies to talk pages. I request that you thus refrain from spelling out cuss words when making comments. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:35, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Sorry about the term &amp;quot;b***&amp;quot; but I'm as angry as you about the &amp;quot;eternal fault&amp;quot; dogma. And you are completely right with most (including the Jews being too liberal in Europe), but in my opinion the quote &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot; is like he wanted to say &amp;quot;The Holocaust was nothing bad&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;not so bad&amp;quot; or so. Like it would be Holocaust relativation. Maybe Höcke really didn't mean anything bad in his speech but then he's simply uncaring of what he says because he damages his party with such unclear statements. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 16:34, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::As we disagree on his speech (even though I do think your last comment was very reasonable), I chose to move the info to another place in the article and re-word it. If you have any problems with how I re-worded it, we can discuss that as well. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Björn Höcke said in whole this: &amp;quot;Wir Deutschen – und ich rede jetzt nicht von euch Patrioten, die sich hier heute versammelt haben – wir Deutschen, also unser Volk, sind das einzige Volk der Welt, das sich ein Denkmal der Schande in das Herz seiner Hauptstadt gepflanzt hat.&amp;quot; This means, not German patriots but the other Germans (liberals e.g.) have founded the Holocaust monument which he calls a Denkmal der Schande. Which means, according to him true German patriots wouldn't have built the Holocaust monument, which can be interpreted as he's pro-Holocaust. The same interpretation is open in his other quote &amp;quot;Wir brauchen eine erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot;. Maybe he didn't want to relativate the Holocaust but he should watch out what he says, especially if his party wants to enter a coalition. A coalition with establishment parties wouldn't be bad as long as the AfD maintains its goals and gets many of them into a government program. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 01:37, 2 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::::The AfD can remain an anti-establishment party and anyway be part of a government coalition, like the Austrian [[FPÖ]] which also seeks being part in coalitions (and already is in two states) and remains loyal to all of its positions. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 14:09, 2 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Brexit==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi - not sure why you changed my edits on the BREXIT page - I tried to provide an accurate account of what is happening and what is being reported by many news outlets --unsigned comment by HORSEMAN&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello &amp;quot;HORSEMAN&amp;quot;, I removed the info about the potential referendums because this was just speculation that died down. I also thought that some of your wording (such as the &amp;quot;full complexity and impacts of BREXIT become apparent&amp;quot; and by removing the mention of the EU being obstructionist) seemed to insert a left-of-center bias into the article. CP is a conservative encyclopedia, and we align firmly with Brexit and Euroskepticism. However, I will see if I can re-add some of your wording. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:31, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Another problem is that for the part about the proposed payments and EU citizen rights, you did not provide sources. The existing info already had a source, and you changed the info while keeping the source. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:35, 10 August 2017 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
:::Hi Again, would this link suffice http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-17-2001_en.htm It is the definitive statement from the EU negotiating team and sets out the negotiating agenda. Thanks Horseman&lt;br /&gt;
::::You can definitely cite the source, but do you also have third party sources as well? I see nothing in the EU source about the monetary amount of the settlement. We prefer sources with conservative editorial stances. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:57, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Is this syitable, I don't pay for Telegraph articles so only have this link. Thanks Horseman&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The Telegraph is one of numerous conservative news organizations. Besides, their non-commentary articles are free for viewing. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Is there a way to reword what I wrote in such a way that it could be considered &amp;quot;encyclopedic&amp;quot;?&lt;br /&gt;
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:You could write &amp;quot;Planned Parenthood eventually expanded to support the form of murder known as abortion.&amp;quot; Something like that. We should keep the wording encyclopedic, as this is not a blog or anything like that. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 18 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Block of TimJim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry about that, I wasn't aware you had already blocked TimJim when I blocked him, so I reset the block length back to that of your original block. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 22:45, 19 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi I'd be happy to move those articles you are requesting, but as you know, I cannot avoid the creation of redirects.  Let me know if you want this, but hopefully you can get it done the right way. It's also probably easier to ask for a move than a delete. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:43, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I appreciate your offer, David, but I think it would be better if I keep it simple for Andy, rather than explain that the articles were moved and that he only has to delete the redirect -- having one person do it is more simple. Thanks anyway! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:46, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed...okay.  I didn't want to cut in and disrupt things, but just thought I'd offer.  Cheers! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:49, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I do appreciate your offer, David. Thanks! It looks like Andy just moved the articles. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:50, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Contact==&lt;br /&gt;
You can email me at wirepaladin36@gmail.com [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:22, 26 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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1990s guy, I just want to verify u could read the Theistic ev. entry and 1994 film clip on my user talk.  any comments?&lt;br /&gt;
:I could watch it, but would you please explain what it's about in a little more detail? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:55, 11 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Maybe I was too pessimistic. Good news ==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Why [[Democrats]] Should Be''' Losing Sleep Over Generation Z.[https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/]&lt;br /&gt;
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Bye for now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:47, 5 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for the article. Bye for now. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:48, 5 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== File comparison tool ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did Cons ever get back to you with the comparison tool?  I'm curious about it, and whether it does a good job of checking for copied content.  The problems that it appears to solve are different from the problems of comparison tools used in software development.  I'm curious about whether it uses line hashing, sentence hashing, word group hashing, and things like that.  I'd like to try it out, and not just at CP.  In fact, probably not at all for CP; I'm not interested in who plagiarizes what at CP, though, when I am, I use other techniques to catch people.  I'm just curious as to whether those other techniques have been automated.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 14:57, 12 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I can assure you that the tool exists. I have not tried it yet and thus cannot answer your question. I have no reason to try it as JDano's essays were deleted, so I recommend that you ask Conservative directly these things. Maybe he will share it with you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:23, 12 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Great!!  I'm still very much interested in it.  Is it a &amp;quot;cloud app&amp;quot;?  Is it a downloadable app that I can run locally on my own computer?  Can you send me a URL?&lt;br /&gt;
::By the way, the standard wiki comparison of your last edit to the [[Guy Verhofstadt]] article, just as a random example, shows how bad text comparers can be.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 17:40, 13 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You are going to have to ask Conservative for the details of the tool -- he told me not to give it away to anyone, and while I personally have no problem with sharing it with you, I shouldn't go against what he said. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:43, 13 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, this is really weird.  Cons seems to be trying to censor the internet itself, hiding the location of this tool.  And he seems to think that only you can be trusted with it.  He said &amp;quot;I will share this tool with 1990sguy [...] so he can evaluate your [JDano's] efforts in an objective way.&amp;quot;  I of course took this as a challenge.  A Google search for &amp;quot;similar page checker tool&amp;quot; gets a number of hits.  Ignoring the ones that cost a lot of money, and those that attempt to check a given page against the entire internet, narrowed it down to a few.  This one: [https://www.duplichecker.com/similar-page-checker.php] seems to be the right thing.  It's a &amp;quot;cloud app&amp;quot; rather than an installable program, but I can put up with that.  It has the same appearance&amp;amp;mdash;color and layout&amp;amp;mdash;as the screenshot that Cons posted and removed.  I ran it on the versions of this page before and after your recent reply to me, and it said they were 100% the same.  I'm not particularly happy about that, but the additional text was only about 0.3 percent of the total, so I suppose I can accept that.  Then I ran it on versions that differ in length by 10% (the 100K version and the 110K version.)  It said they were 98% similar.  Not good.  But I still might find it to be a useful tool.  There are pages not relating to JDano that could benefit from such an analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I will probably check in with Cons on this, once he stays away from CP for 10 days.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Getting help==&lt;br /&gt;
I am trying to fix the stuff on the Corporate bullies page.  Am still learning my way around on how to use things.   Think I am starting to get it though.   The Georgia 2016 stuff has a lot of info and I am in the process of editing it, though it's going to take a while (at least 20 or more minutes.  I'm trying though.  (BTW, if I wasn't supposed to edit here, sorry.  I don't know how to reply to your remark otherwise.) [[User:PatriotMongoose|PatriotMongoose]] ([[User talk:PatriotMongoose|talk]]) 22:31, 15 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's OK to edit here. I recommend that you read CP's guidelines, and probably more importantly, that you read [[Help:How to edit a website like Conservapedia]]. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:34, 15 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fabulous block and reverts==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fabulous block and reverts this afternoon!!!!  Well done!!!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:51, 21 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks, Andy! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:52, 21 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== re: JohnZ ==&lt;br /&gt;
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User: JohnZ fails to recognize that my interest to be a referee to protect a marginal online sparring partner (whose greatest achievement was his dogged stubbornness to ignore facts/evidence)  was largely protected by his edits to main space articles and my desire for an online sparring partner. &lt;br /&gt;
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His rudeness to other editors and his desire to barely skate by with his main space edits certainly did not help matters. In addition, given the [[decline of the atheist movement]] and it now being a hopeless cause destined to ever increasing irrelevance, my desire for an atheist online sparring partner is non-existent at this point given my current/future priorities. &lt;br /&gt;
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If he wants to create two quality, well-sourced original articles of at least 2,00 words on these topics [[Anti-religious Soviet Union propaganda]] and [[Christian persecution in communist China]] to restore his other editing privileges, that is what is required. &lt;br /&gt;
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He would also have to pledge to refrain from hurling insults to other editors (idiot, etc.). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:01, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hopefully he'll do it. We've given him these opportunities before and he rejected them. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:18, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I made a minor adjustment to his requirements for fully restoring his editing privileges in case someone creates articles on those subjects. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Secondly, ardent secular leftists generally always double down regardless of any contrary facts/evidence presented to them. Of course, you never know what is going to happen. The Apostle Paul went from being one of Christianity's chief opponents to being its greatest champion. He will just need to be open minded. &lt;br /&gt;
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::It is very widely recognized that there is and has been religious persecution in communist China and that there was anti-religious propaganda in the former Soviet Union. So I am giving him ample opportunity to show that he is not a close-minded individual given to hurling insults. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:31, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would say no to this for a couple reasons. The first is his blatant disrespect of everyone here, and he has shown that multiple times. The gist of it is a pretense of superiority over us, as if it is mandatory that we listen to him; he stated a short time ago that some of us are idiots for not engaging him in conversation. Which I might add is his kind of conversation. &lt;br /&gt;
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The second reason is that he's a leftist brand of liberal from Great Britain, which means we cannot change his way of thinking whatsoever. Unfortunately for someone who is that close-minded he is going to go into lock-step with every other like-minded individual in his country, which would mean the loss of the United Kingdom as a political entity within a few years time. In his case, he is more concerned with picking a fight with the users of a small American conservative website then he is with what he and his kind are allowing to happen in Britain, namely the Islamic takeover. As a leftist, he probably feels he can get along with them in the name of diversity and multiculturalism, but when all is said and done he will either be forced on his hands and knees with his butt high in the air, or he'll have his head chopped off.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, some people think they're so better than others that they've blinded themselves to what they're actually doing. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 04:35, 4 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Karajou, if you look at my comment to his talk page, you will see that I am giving him an opportunity to show that he can be open-minded and reasonable by writing on two topics related to atheistic communism persecution of Christians/religious (namely [[Christian persecution in communist China]] and [[Anti-religious propaganda in the Soviet Union]]) via two quality articles of at least 2,000 words.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:38, 4 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anti-Christian bias in Wikipedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello 1990'sguy. Am I being hypersensitive or is Wikipedia's anti-Christian bias increasing?  For example, the recent dispute about content at Answers in Genesis.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAnswers_in_Genesis&amp;amp;type=revision&amp;amp;diff=810473662&amp;amp;oldid=810471171] I see also that User:Synthetic Woolly Mammoth[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Synthetic_Woolly_Mammoth] has just been blocked, allegedly for being a sockpuppet of Biscuittin, but more likely because he has been speaking up in support of some Christian editors. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 05:27, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I know another editor who has extensively edited topics related to Christianity and atheism on WP, and he told me that the ati-Christian bias on the site was much worse back around 2012. The militant atheists don't have as much power as they did back then. However, the anti-Christian bias obviously is still very bad, especially on YEC topics, which I have been dealing with for years already. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:20, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Block length ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your alert block of new user &amp;quot;CPishilarious&amp;quot;, but I'm going to change the block duration from 2 years to 1 month.  Long blocks are disfavored on wikis because they block the IP address as well as the user.  The IP address could be a library or other general access IP address, or the user could move or be a college student, or the user could have a change of heart.  But thanks again for your quick action.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:11, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK, and you're welcome. I have seen blocked vandals come back with their same accounts after their blocks expire, so I wanted to protect against that. But I will shorten blocks like these in the future. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:54, 21 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks so much for your alert block this morning, but again the block duration is too long.  Another user could be trying to use that same IP address within a few months, or the user himself could have a change of heart.  I'll shorten it to 4 months.  Thanks!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:25, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Andy, it feels like I'm the only editor you're messaging about block length, ''even though my blocks are much shorter than most other editors.'' For example, just yesterday, I blocked two accounts for six months for having a silly username and for (relatively) non-serious vandalism, but shortly later, DMorris reset the blocks for 5 years. See here: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Bernieman][http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Hillary_clinton] If you're going (for good reason) to message me for my blocks, please do the same for the other editors who prefer even longer blocks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:33, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But yes, I will still shorten my blocks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:36, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggested article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Donald Trump and evangelicals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there would be public interest in such an article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:20, 9 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks. If I get time, I will start this article. I will add it to my list of articles to create. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:16, 9 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two things ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For one, why do you not have email enabled? Secondly, consider longer blocks for these obviously malicious accounts. You can block an account for infinity and the autoblock on the IP still only lasts 24 hours. There is no reason for these sleeper accounts to come back to life three months later. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 16:19, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In his defense, he was doing longer blocks until [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length|Andy started asking him not too]], then [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length_2|reminded him again]]. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:25, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yes, for crying out loud, why am I the only one being criticized for my block lengths? If I make my block lengths long, Andy posts on my talk page, and if I make my block lengths shorter, DMorris posts on my talk page.&lt;br /&gt;
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::DMorris, please talk to Andy about this. I will continue making my blocks on the shorter side until your differing opinions are sorted out.&lt;br /&gt;
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::About my email, I have my email address posted on my user page. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:46, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Articles of the year: 2017 - your article is being featured on the main page (left side) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Donald Trump achievements]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Keep up the good work.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:12, 24 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I went ahead and added a link to the Gardner article on the Nationalism v Globalism article for you.  I figured since we were referencing it, it would be good to see the original article too.--[[User:Whizkid|Whizkid]] ([[User talk:Whizkid|talk]]) 23:52, 7 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! I already saw and added it to other articles where I mentioned Gardner. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:53, 7 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Homeschooling==&lt;br /&gt;
I deleted the paragraph on Texas requirements (which I originally added) since it was duplicative of the information I added from HSLDA (which covers all 50 states) regarding state requirements.  I left the New Hampshire one since it involved a court imposing its will on a family in violation of state law.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm glad you liked my original work, but after finding something better and covering more than just one state, I amended my original work.  Though after your comments, I revised it to explain that another state court (Texas) made homeschooling far easier than before.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 17:22, 29 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:27, 29 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deep State==&lt;br /&gt;
I will agree with your removal of the word &amp;quot;theory&amp;quot;, but I did add the phrase &amp;quot;(or are believed to control)&amp;quot; because there are many conservative Christians who are not totally convinced that the deep state really exists.  I believe my edits will be a happy medium between those who hold to the deep state view and those who do not. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 15:11, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I kept most of your &amp;quot;is believed/considered&amp;quot; wording (except for the first sentence, which is unnecessary as the first sentence already makes clear that &amp;quot;deep state&amp;quot; is a term and not necessarily reality. I found most of your other changes to be too wordy and unnecessary, so I reverted some of it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:04, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I looked at your revisions and all you did was revert to your original article, with a few minor edits to try to convince me that you really took my suggestions into consideration.  Basically what you did to the article is like putting wood filler and new paint on a house with termite rot.  I've dealt with folks like you over on &amp;quot;the other site&amp;quot;, who think that once they write an article, it's perfect and can't accept any changes to it.  I'm not going to waste time with this one any more; clearly you're trying to espouse tinfoil hat conspiracy theory under the guise of &amp;quot;Christian conservatism&amp;quot;.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:22, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Much of your changes involved inserting parenthetical notes, which I think made the article more bloated than it had to be. The &amp;quot;or are believed to control&amp;quot; phrase in the first sentence was simply unnecessary and overemphasized your disbelief in the deep state. The part about Wall Street was cited to a good research article, so I don't think we need the &amp;quot;is believed&amp;quot; language for that. But I will still see if I can incorporate more of your edits.&lt;br /&gt;
:::About the existence of the deep state, it and the drive for one-world government are things that should be common and uncontroversial knowledge -- but people (both supporters and detractors) &amp;quot;conspiracize&amp;quot; these things and that's how accusations of me wearing a tinfoil hat come about. Look at the evidence -- most of our society (except theologically conservative Christians, most of them probably being premillennialist) accept the Idea of Progress, adopted during the Enlightenment Era. They believe that humanity is progressing for the better, and that this will lead to a one-world utopia with world peace and freedom for humanity (read Kant, for example). Thus, they believe that national identity, subsidiarity, and national sovereignty are growing useless and antiquated and actually are impediments to this utopia. This flows into their policies -- advancing international organizations, taking away national sovereignty, etc. As for the deep state, just look at the whole DOJ/FBI stuff going on right now, or the fact that Republicans and Democrats hire administration personnel from the same group of organizations -- CFR, Trilateral, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
:::The garbage that there is some secret conspiracy by liberals to take over the world, that their motives are malevolent, that they want to do evil, that this is a short-term project, and that the Illuminati is involved with all this -- this is all garbage perfectly fit for &amp;quot;the other site&amp;quot;. In reality, the drive for a one-world utopia is one of the fundamental philosophical views in our culture, and liberals openly see it as natural/normal/benign (and they're in it for the long haul). --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:04, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggested Name Change for [[Christmas and Easter Catholic]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
I propose changing this to &amp;quot;Christmas and Easter Christian&amp;quot;, since the phenomenon of persons attending church on those days is by no means limited to Catholics. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 16:17, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I disagree. I recommend that a separate article entitled &amp;quot;Christmas and Easter Christian&amp;quot; be created -- C&amp;amp;E Catholicism is a notable concept on its own right, enough to have its own article. I think an article on C&amp;amp;E Christianity in general would be a good addition. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:07, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::What's the difference?  Both are the same phenomenon -- &amp;quot;so-called&amp;quot; Christian believers who attend only during those two holidays (or weddings and funerals).  The current article is fine, it just needs to be revised to not pick on one branch of Christianity.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:17, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I've heard Roman Catholics specifically mentioned much more than other Christians when hearing about this &amp;quot;phenomenon.&amp;quot; But I will ask another editor of his opinion on this. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:32, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Campaign promises==&lt;br /&gt;
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The thought occurred to me that Wikipedia does not normally catalog campaign promises.(It never has, that I have seen)  Elections there follow a formula of &amp;quot;what did they actually do after getting elected&amp;quot; and election results - which is both boring and completely useless, because we have a big problem with people running for office one way and then governing another way.  This leaves a glaring hole of accountability with all of our politicians and it also offers us an opportunity to distinguish ourselves from Wikipedia.  What do you think about this?  I made a few changes [[Bruce Rauner|here]] as an example start.  [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 15:00, 4 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think your suggestion is a great idea -- we have too many politicians who make really great promises during election campaigns, but they later act like they never even made those promises. When Rauner and his GOP primary opponent (Jeanne Ives) sat down with the ''Chicago Tribune'' editorial board a few days ago, Rauner said that he never promised he would veto a major pro-abortion bill that he ultimately signed (he actually explicitly promised he would multiple times).[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/30/jeanne-ives-crushes-gop-gov-bruce-rauner-illinois-candidates-meet-first-time/][http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/31/conservative-jeanne-ives-rips-il-gov-bruce-rauner-abortion-flip-flop/]&lt;br /&gt;
:I can also think of Sen. Thom Tillis of NC who campaigned against amnesty in 2014 and is now advocating for a &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot; amnesty bill (though it's inferior to the Goodlatte bill).&lt;br /&gt;
:I support your suggestion. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 4 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== FPÖ ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I just wanted to ask you why you have removed [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Freedom_Party_of_Austria&amp;amp;diff=1403167&amp;amp;oldid=1403166 my entry] on the article of the Freedom Party of Austria. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreisky%E2%80%93Peter%E2%80%93Wiesenthal_affair Kreisky–Peter–Wiesenthal affair] is an important event in the history of this party that should not be discreeted.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 09:41, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:First off, the info was inserted right in the middle of a paragraph discussing the FPO's ideological development and alliance with the SPO. Your info was out of place.&lt;br /&gt;
:Second, the info was unduly wordy. I am sick of seeing the media and leftists do everything in their power to tie right-wing conservative parties like the FPO to Nazi Germany, such as by unduly emphasizing those aspects of the parties and calling them &amp;quot;far-right&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;extreme right&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;ultra-right&amp;quot;, etc. By American conservative standards, these parties are actually quite moderate, and for those of us who realize that Nazism is a vastly overrated threat (placed alongside climate change by the Left), such parties have clearly moved away from their pasts.&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't want our articles to accept the left-wing narratives of these right-wing populist parties. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:50, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, all the informations I have put in the article were confirmed with trustworthy sources. [[Simon Wiesenthal]] who accused the FPÖ leader Friedrich Peter of being part in a unit which committed massacres against jews, was himself a Conservative. Wiesenthal supported the (at that time very conservative) Austrian People's Party. So it is not easy to label his accusations as &amp;quot;left-wing narratives&amp;quot;. I am also pretty sure that the Conservative government of Israel does not spread &amp;quot;left-wing propaganda&amp;quot; if they criticize the party for its charged history. Instead of simply removing facts from the article, you might emphasize how the FPÖ moved away from its past.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 10:01, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Israel is a Jewish state, so issues related to the Holocaust are sensitive to them. But as much as I support Israel and its right-wing government, Israel's position toward the FPO is irrational, and they are unduly obsessed with Nazism like Western Europe is. Israel's opinion on the FPO means very little because of the context -- it's easy to offend Israel on matters like this.&lt;br /&gt;
:::About Wiesenthal, I don't know anything about him, but him supporting the OVP does not mean much to me. If the party were &amp;quot;very conservative&amp;quot;, why did it support the EU, Maastricht Treaty, Schengen Agreement, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
:::And yes, these are the narratives promoted by the Left, the establishment, and the media. These are the same people who were comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler during the election campaign and who tried to smear Breitbart News as anti-Semite (despite loads of evidence to the contrary), among many other cases. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:17, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Just because these &amp;quot;narratives&amp;quot; are promoted by the Left it does not mean that they are wrong. I can ensure you that Simon Wiesenthal was never a supporter of left-wing policies. As I already told you it would be better to emphasize the current measures by Strache to reappraise the controversial history of this party instead of denying it.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 11:20, 8 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They're wrong -- they overemphasize every small and petty incident related to parties like the FPO that allude to Nazi Germany. Their point in doing so is to make it seem like that if we elect these people/parties into power (including Donald Trump), we'll be repeating 1933 all over again and will usher in the end of freedom in Europe -- never mind that Germany is still enforcing the Nazi ban on homeschooling, or that many Western European countries have free speech restrictions even on topics like Islam and homosexuality, or etc. Conservapedia will not go along with the media -- we acknowledge that parties like the FPO are conservative and/or right-wing (not &amp;quot;far-right&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;neo-Nazi&amp;quot;) and the best choice in order to protect/expand freedom and protect European culture/patriotism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:58, 8 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can you create this article: [[Donald Trump's major achievements]]? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:39, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This seems like a good idea, and I will do it. I won't do it immediately, since I have a lot of other things to do, but I will create it soon. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:54, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK. Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:18, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm very sorry about the article. If it make you feel like a advertisement. However, everything that is state is true. Thank you for your understanding. Pleased assist by make any corrections. That you think is necessary. When your time is most convenient. &lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for your message, but the article I deleted is not acceptable for Conservapedia. There is nothing I can do to change that, unless you receive coverage from good sources (Breitbart, Fox, etc.). I'm keeping the other article for now, since it's one I can imagine keeping, but I'm discussing it with other editors to see what to ultimately do about it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:00, 21 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you add some categories to my page please? [[User:Willow Smith|Willow Smith]] ([[User talk:Willow Smith|talk]]) 11:26, 22 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response to your complaints==&lt;br /&gt;
From what appears EVERY time someone creates a new page or edits an existing one:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Please note that all contributions to Conservapedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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If the real rule is &amp;quot;any contributions by Conservapedia administrators -- no matter how good, bad, or ugly they may be -- are fixed for all time and never to be altered&amp;quot;, then make that the rule.  But don't invite someone to improve things, then complain because they do.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 10:26, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Your bolding does not improve things. Also, nobody reverted your turning pages into redirects -- it's just a good idea to let people know before making major unilateral changes. If your complaint is that I'm messaging you about these things, then you have no real complaint at all. If you make edits here, you (like I was, and still am to an extent) are bound to be messaged about these things, which other editors do with the intention of improving others' editing. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:37, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Additionally, administrators and editors alike must watch the activity of others, especially newer editors.  A few people have the hobby of trying to vandalize CP in any way possible, so excuse us if we sound cynical or obstinate, but some &amp;quot;new users&amp;quot; are actually just the same vandals as always.  Since we don't really know you yet, we do our best to assume good intent, but can't afford to ignore what seems to be odd behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm sure you'll do fine, if you just listen to the recommendations of others and keep improving content.  Thank you for your efforts, and for understanding! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:16, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Just wanted to say thank you for the welcome!  PS--Do you know what an eagle does when a storm approaches?  [[User:Bcarlin|Bcarlin]] ([[User talk:Bcarlin|talk]]) 20:34, 21 March 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Double standard article is now unprotected ==&lt;br /&gt;
1990sguy, I unprotected the [[Double standard]] article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:16, 3 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:43, 3 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Regarding the Whale article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to know what caused you to revert my edits to the Whale article, and what I could do in the future to avoid this.--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:23, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:First off, I did not revert everything -- not even close. I reverted what appeared to be unnecessary wordiness on your part, along with your insertion of evolutionist-favored terms (&amp;quot;evolutionary biologists&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;evolutionists&amp;quot;--believe it or not, but people who believe in a young Earth can be evolutionary biologists too). If you keep your wording as concise as possible and if you choose your wording while keeping in mind that this is a conservative-Christian encyclopedia (thus, using terms favored by conservatives and Christians), then you won't be reverted. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:10, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, thanks for letting me know. I'll keep that in mind. I think I was correct about Darwin's views, though - could I reinstate that part?--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:23, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Fine, but only if you change that part. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:27, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Done. Thank you!--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:40, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Thanks for your edits ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for cleaning up the edits to [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge]].  I was planning to do likewise.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:13, 24 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome, happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:15, 24 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ummm... how? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok... if not supernatural then how is evolution a folklore genre? I don't understand... Do you go to your doctor... Do you believe in evidence based medicine? If so, are you aware that many medicines and treatment methods are derived from experiment on animals... In your viewpoint why? If animals are COMPLETELY unrelated to us IN ANY WAY... then what is the point of experimenting and more importantly, why do those experiments help us develop pills and treatment of diseases? Why do the animals most close to us suffer from related diseases? Why do chimps suffer from HIV and not cockroaches? Just coincidence that our nearest relative is the one who suffers from problems more close to us? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 00:01, 25 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Ok... thanks... I feel like there are a couple of things you have to know about potholer54... First, he DOES NOT discuss the political regulations on climate change (https://youtu.be/MTJQPyTVtNA?t=10) in other words, he maintains that political part of the debate (whether conservative or not) is NOT his business. Also, he has criticized leftists for blowing up the effects of climate change (he has frequently said that science does not support earth being destroyed by climate change since in history there have been higher CO2 levels)... these are the reasons why I felt that my wording was correct, but I will not start arguing. Do as you wish. I only ask that if you modify my article please try expanding it (there are enough stubs and short articles here), and cite sources. Even if the sources would not be considered legitimate (by other's standards), citing the sources makes the article look good. I see too many articles, where the writer goes on and on without citing a single source. &lt;br /&gt;
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About evolution. I do NOT agree with everything here. But I understand your mission. And I understand that people here feel differently and it is NOT my mission to undermine your work. I simply add and create pages which I think Conservapedia lacks, and I try to write from neutral point of view (more experienced people can edit it to sound more conservative, I do not want to seem like a troll). &lt;br /&gt;
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I did as you commanded. I know the wiki that shall not be named is not welcome here, but I wanted people to have another way to contact me. Anyways, it is removed&lt;br /&gt;
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:Responded on your talk page. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:26, 26 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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1)Yes... there are several instances of him trying to take the politics out of it... I'll send them later&lt;br /&gt;
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2)When you say he &amp;quot;criticizes skepticism&amp;quot; as opposed to &amp;quot;denialism&amp;quot; the reader may have the impression that potholer is against being skeptical when in fact he is against what he considers to be denialsim... He is pro free speech, he welcomes questions, I have even spoken with him at length months ago. That is why I wrote what I wrote.&lt;br /&gt;
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3)That's ok. While my interests change very unpredictably and rapidly, recently I am more interested in history, pseudohistory and archaeology, pseudoarchaeology articles.&lt;br /&gt;
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4)I understand... I will obey. But just for curiosity, can I know where does that rule originate from? I have read the Guidelines and the Commandments and I did not see any mention of the site which calls itself that which it thinks Conservapedia is not? I do obey, and I respect, but just for interest, where is that rule documented and what is the purpose (since you seem to tolerate other anti-Conservapedia wikis like Lieberapedia) --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 20:48, 26 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Responded again on your talk page. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:31, 26 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::OK... Is there a way for me to add images (illustrations) to my articles? How do I do that and what is CP policy on that? Are google images, wiki images ok? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 21:43, 26 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You can post requests at [[Conservapedia:Image upload requests]]. User:DavidB4 usually uploads the requests. If the image has a license that allows us to use it, we can upload it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:53, 26 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blocked me ==&lt;br /&gt;
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1)I thought that the ban meant that I was actually banned, meaning the site would prevent me from editing, so when I saw that I could edit, I thought it was ok... I did not know that you meant I should stay away from those topics. I simply thought the article used to many words, so I made it simple and more encyclopedic. &lt;br /&gt;
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2)Your addition to my article is also written, don't get me wrong, a little too simply. I understand that editors here do not accept the scientific consensus on evolution, but at least you can write it more encyclopedically, like you state that scientists say that humans turned from dumb to intelligent and turned to farmers... That sounds like something a 12 year old would write... Can't you make it sound more scientific. I mean, disagree with it, but at least a)represent it correctly b)write it in a grown-up manner...&lt;br /&gt;
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3)Why did you delete my &amp;quot;Gay Nazis&amp;quot; article... From what I understand, that is pseudo historical and Hitler hated gays and persecuted them?&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, thanks for a reasonable block time... I thought I might be blocked for another two years without a chance to explain myself --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 18:26, 27 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:1) Topic bans mean you're not allowed to edit a topic, not that you don't have the ability to do so. Besides, regardless of your apparent misunderstanding, you removed content that you disagreed with, something I told you repeatedly not to do.&lt;br /&gt;
:2) Disapproving of my wording isn't a good reason to remove the entire thing, especially considering that it is one of the few examples in the article that secularists hate. Besides, we're supposed to give reasonably simple explanations when writing (see [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Style]]). My explanation is what the &amp;quot;scientific/historical consensus&amp;quot; essentially holds, and if that's the case, there's no reason to make it read like it was copied out of a prestigious journal. But regardless, I will see if there's any wording that I could change.&lt;br /&gt;
:3) It cited two explicitly left-wing sources that use this example to advocate for social-leftist policies and to criticize modern American conservatives. Surely there must be more apolitical sources out there about this? Also, regardless, it's good not to confuse Adolf Hitler's opposition to homosexuality (and the policies that came out of that) with homosexuality's presence in the Nazi Party. What I mean is that some high-ranking people in the Nazi Party, who helped found and build up the party (most notably Ernst Röhm), were homosexuals, and it's more complicated than &amp;quot;Nazis hated homosexuals.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
:4) You're welcome. But also a warning: if you don't improve (and I hope you do improve), I will progressively increase the block lengths. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:55, 27 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Ok, fine... But out of curiosity, does everyone on this site share your views on evolution, black holes, relativity, atheists etc? Is this site representative of Conservative (and/or Christian) values in general or a very specific type of sense? Do mainstream conservatives reference this site as an authority? And also, is there a rule (formal) where this has to be YEC or strictly Christian? Or is it an unspoken rule? Or does it depend on editors? I'm not trying to step on anyone's toes, I am genuinely interested. One more thing, you told me that I could NOT become an admin/sysop because there were very few, yet you clearly have more authority than me. You block and unblock me at will... How can I get that authority? Thanks! --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 23:39, 27 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::No, not everyone shares CP's views on these issues -- in fact, we've had some liberals and atheists edit CP on relatively good terms. However, most editors here (including myself, though I'm agnostic on the relativity info and opposed to the CBP) share the vast majority of CP's stated views. As the owner of CP, Andy obviously has the right to choose what it says.&lt;br /&gt;
:::CP is representative of, for lack of a better term, what I would call &amp;quot;full conservatism&amp;quot;, rather than cafeteria conservatism, where people pick and choose what parts of conservatism they support and what they don't. There are many people (especially in Europe, but also here) who say they are conservative but share many views and even many underlying presuppositions of the globalist Left. CP is pretty consistent with our support for limited/small government and staying true to the values of the founding fathers.&lt;br /&gt;
:::It really depends on who you mean when you say &amp;quot;mainstream conservative&amp;quot; -- that's a slippery term that can mean different things.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I'm not an admin -- I'm technically an assistant admin, since I have many but not all sysop rights. Even getting those took a while, and it's all at Andy's discretion. If you become a good editor who respects CP's perspective and does not challenge them in any way, you'll probably get some rights eventually. But you were just blocked twice, and you're still having problems learning how to edit CP without undermining its perspective -- I don't think you should count on being promoted anytime soon -- focus on other things here for now. CP has a significantly stricter sysop policy than &amp;quot;the other website&amp;quot;, and for good reason -- we're the target of parodists and other people who regularly seek to vandalize and undermine us, and we want to ensure that we don't have to deal with a parodist sysop or anything like that. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 00:09, 28 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, you'll have to explain that more... What do I not do? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 15:58, 28 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Left Wing Sources ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi... I do not usually look at the political leanings... I cite sources which I am SURE state something that is verifiable... Though, SPLC might be left leaning, I am SURE they can get Richard Spencer's birth date right... So I cited as a source for his birth date... The RWW, was a YOUTUBE video, that is the one I found first, I don't cite them to support left leaning politics, just facts that are verifiable by ANY honest person... I repeat SPLC might be left, but I am sure they can get a BIRTH DATE correctly! So that is what I cited, but do as you please! --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 16:22, 28 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Surely, there are better sources that give Spencer's birthdate than SPLC. Also, those sources are not merely &amp;quot;left-leaning&amp;quot; (that designation more properly belongs to something like &amp;quot;The Atlantic&amp;quot;) -- they are far-left partisan interest groups. They have no business being here. As a conservative encyclopedia, it makes sense to predominantly rely on conservative sources (or, at least, apolitical sources). --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:27, 28 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Arguing With You ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Lol.. You are trying to get me to argue about evolution... but the problem is that if I do that I (and ONLY I, ie NOT both of us) will get blocked... It's kinda dirty that you on one hand basically provoke me to argument and if I do respond to your arguments you have the authority to block me... Assuming, this time you really were interested and WILL NOT block me for simply RESPONDING TO WHAT YOU TOLD ME... It is my humble opinion, based on what you have said here, you do not understand what The Theory of Evolution actually is... You seem to think that evolution says that monkeys turned human and that macro evolution means that a new organism appears over time, although macro evolution is THE SAME as micro evolution only on a larger time scale (yes as simple as that)... You have made it clear NOT to correct these errors (ERRORS) so I respect conservapedia rules... I respect what you told me and I keep away from stuff that we disagree on and keep contributing what I can in good faith...&lt;br /&gt;
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Last time we got into this argument, I pointed out a really good and simple thing... I told you how we can see the familial pattern and the animals closer to us suffer more ailments like us... I also pointed out that experiments on animals closer to us help us find treatment, this was a good point to think about... Instead you chose to ignore it... So I did NOT want to get blocked, so I simply let it go (again, respecting your opinions)... Yet you show NONE of this respect calling 200 years of research &amp;quot;junk science&amp;quot; simply because you have been unable to process this information... @Karajou is YEC too and he thinks that evolution is fake, but he does not push it, and he is not calling me out on &amp;quot;believing&amp;quot; (or understanding, as I prefer) evolution... He simply keeps what he believes to himself... I can respect that! &lt;br /&gt;
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I am ready to respond if you have questions... But only if I am guaranteed not to get blocked like last time (after I RESPONDED to QUESTIONS addressed to me FOR 2 years)! --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 20:40, 30 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:On a side note, I happen to know of a CP user who openly created a RW account.  They were immediately interrogated on evolution as well. &lt;br /&gt;
:To the main issue, though, microevolution is not the same as macroevolution.  You should really do some research on the subject. There is a significant difference between a change in fur length, and a change in species. That and other issues I disagree with you aside, I don't think you will or should get blocked simply for stating your opinion.  As long as you continue to respect our polices regarding mainspace articles, you should be safe.  (I don't know the details of the block, but I suspect there was more going on than just an angry response to your opposing opinion.) &lt;br /&gt;
:Anyway, I'm cutting in on this conversation, and I should really just let 1990'sguy speak for himself. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:00, 30 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::@Kingdamian1: I am '''not''' trying to argue with you about evolution. First off, I explicitly tried to end the discussion on Andy's talk page because I didn't want to use it arguing about political positions. Also, I was more focused on your political positions. We all know what you believe on evolution. I was tempted to ask clarifying questions about your ''political'' views, but I thought it wasn't worth it.&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, I actually don't care whether you believe in evolution. What I care about is the fact that you are apparently unable to put away your bias when editing CP. Your edits on the [[Potholer54]], [[Pseudohistory]], and [[Macroevolution]] inserted pro-evolution bias into CP (and keep in mind that your first edit after joining was creating a debate page on evolution where the first sentence insulted CP). As I noted elsewhere, you inserted bias on other topics in your edits. I don't care about your personal views on any of this (there are several CP users who believe in evolution) -- the fact that you are struggling to make your editing compatible with CP's point of view is a problem. Hopefully, you're learning.&lt;br /&gt;
::Claiming that I'm &amp;quot;''unable to process this information''&amp;quot; on evolution shows how little you actually know about me, and it's not a good strategy for staying on this site. I've thought a lot about this issue, and its strengthened my belief that the Bible is authoritative in all it says and that science affirms it as true (rather than Ephesians 6:14).&lt;br /&gt;
::DavidB4's comment above is correct, and to clarify to him, Kingdamian1 was blocked (by Karajou and me) for more than simply giving an opposing opinion. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:18, 30 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I CLEARLY have it on my page that I am a LIBERTARIAN... according to Conservapedia, that is what you would consider conservative, you keep telling me I admitted I was NOT conservative, where Conservapedia COUNTS Libertarianism as conservative... About evolution, I do NOT think you do not think about the subject, I think you look at it FROM A SINGLE point of view. I suspect that your view about evolution comes from strictly YEC... The first of your many mistakes, is saying that evolution=atheism, when in fact, OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of religious people agree with evolution. If you really are honest and interest in BOTH sides and NOT JUST ONE... there are MANY videos you can watch... &lt;br /&gt;
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I have these 2 videos I usually recommend as they are NOT boring and fun and also explain things in easy to understand terms... &lt;br /&gt;
If you are truly interested in BOTH sides, try to seat through these two videos. Watch them in order (1st and then 2nd) as one is kind of answering the rebuttal that followed (the rebuttal you may have in mind when watching the first one)... If you can sit through both of them calmly without getting agitated (They are NOT boring and easy to understand, filled with humor), please, get back to me and tell me (after watching BOTH completely) how has your view changed about what evolution actually is!&lt;br /&gt;
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RnygS7opCA&lt;br /&gt;
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--[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 23:59, 30 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:KingDamian, you are bringing back an argument that has been refuted again and again and again.  I've seen the videos you posted, and all it does is once more post an assumption that we must accept evolution as true based upon the word of a scientist who said so.  So I'm going to ask you once, and I expect a straight up or down YES or NO answer, and it's based on the horse line at the end of video 2: DID YOU PHYSICALLY SEE THE ''EOHIPPUS'' CHANGE INTO THE ''EQUUS''?  Keep in mind that I will not accept as an answer anyone pointing to the fossils themselves and saying we must assume a change took place. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 00:21, 1 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Hi... No I have not seen it... But do you realize that if I had that would be THE SINGLE MOST POTENT evidence against evolution? Do you realize that? If I had actually observed the change that would be the single best evidence against evolution NOT for it... AGAINST IT! Do I make myself clear? --[[User:Kingdamian1|Kingdamian1]] ([[User talk:Kingdamian1|talk]]) 00:26, 1 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::And there you go.  You haven't seen it happen.  And neither has every single scientist who ever lived; they didn't see it happen either.  And we have to sit here and take their word - and your's, I might add - that evolution did take place because they eyeballed a bunch of fossils and ''said'' a change took place?  We have to ''assume'' the change happened because these guys put these fossils in a nice little line-up?  This website will not accept evolution based on hearsay evidence; we will call evolution what it actually is - JUNK SCIENCE; and we will post direct evidence that contradicts what these supporters say about it.  Do I make myself clear?  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 00:49, 1 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am not here to argue... I like CP... I think you are worthy of a response, so please don't block me, Brian. Evolution has not been observed? Did you watch it from beginning to end? Evolution Has been observed... What you asked me was if we had observed a SPECIFIC species change over millions of years with my eyes... no I have not. But I have not observed ancient English evolve into modern english either, i have not observed Latin change into Italian either... and you have not observed George Washington s life... so according to your logic, all of this must be junk science too Kingdamian1 (talk) 02:30, 1 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, evolution has not been observed; you are arguing, and you have been arguing since day one, when you know full well where we stand on the subject.  It's stopping now.  And I'm not going to stand for someone who demands we look at pretty pictures just to get us to believe in an assumption; we might as well assume a monkey evolved from a living room wall because Little Billy drew one on it with his crayons.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 07:18, 1 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I agree with Karajou and DavidB4 (on his own talk page). Kingdamian1, your comments show you think I'm some &amp;quot;low-information&amp;quot; person who lives in a bubble who will immediately change my mind once I'm &amp;quot;enlightened&amp;quot; (emphasis on the scare quotes) -- your assumption is complete BS (it shows you have no clue who I am). I tried to end a discussion on Andy's talk page and you brought it up again on my talk page (and I didn't even have to be present for it to heat up). --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:32, 1 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Also, I just saw [http://www.psypost.org/2018/04/scientific-reasoning-ability-not-predict-acceptance-evolution-among-religious-individuals-study-finds-51082 this study published in a scientific journal] (by evolutionists, with an evolutionist perspective) that admits that there's no correlation between one's level of education or intelligence and their acceptance of evolution. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:21, 1 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Question ==&lt;br /&gt;
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How do you ping someone? (i responded to you on my talk page) [[User:Qw23|Qw23]] ([[User talk:Qw23|talk]]) 17:21, 8 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't think CP has a ping option. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:23, 8 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Hi ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm new to this project and I do need help with this sentence:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Quote|[[Mike Pompeo]] and the Trump administration helped secure the release of Kim Dong Chul, Kim Hak Song and Tony Kim from North Korea.{{cite news|author=Andrew O'Reilly|coauthors=Elizabeth Llorente|title=Trump administration finds success in bringing home detained Americans|url=http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/05/09/trump-administration-finds-success-in-bringing-home-detained-americans.html|work=[[Associated Press (AP)|Associated Press]]|publisher=[[Fox News Channel|Fox News]]|date=9 May 2018}} The three men described their “deep appreciation” for the Trump administration for help freeing them.{{Cite news|last=Dorell|first=Oren|title='God Bless America': Freed American prisoners thankful after being released from North Korea|url=https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/05/09/north-korea-kim-jong-un-free-3-american-citizens/582094002/|publisher=[[USA Today]]|date=9 May 2018|accessdate=10 May 2018|quote=We thank God, and all our families and friends who prayed for us and for our return}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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I believe it should go under [[Donald Trump achievements: Foreign policy]] but for 2018, which section do you believe it fits best under? Also, how do sources work here? --[[User:MaddieJ|MaddieJ]] ([[User talk:MaddieJ|talk]]) 15:14, 11 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I already added this to the article, but I will look through your sources to see if more can be added. References could be surrounded by ref tags, like this : &amp;lt;code&amp;gt;&amp;lt;nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[citation]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/nowiki&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/code&amp;gt; --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:29, 11 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hi [[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] I just want to let you know I'm glad I'm learning how to edit here. I just recently added the ISIS statements on [[Justin Trudeau]] and also mentioned [[Maxime Waters]] on this edit [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=2017_left-wing_violence&amp;amp;diff=prev&amp;amp;oldid=1422057]. I will allow you to monitor me if any edit I do is good or bad, and I will message you if I need anything. Regards.&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:MaddieJ|MaddieJ]] ([[User talk:MaddieJ|talk]]) 10:03, 15 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK, thanks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:01, 15 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== A Message for that British Troll ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Just in case (s)he makes another sock account, (s)he should know that campaign finance laws are unfair and D'Souza was directly targeted because of his unpopular opinions. Also, in the case of Roy Moore, there is only accusations and hearsay. That troll must also ignore the things that Leftist politicians did:&lt;br /&gt;
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Bill Clinton: raped, molested and abused several women.&lt;br /&gt;
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Hillary Clinton: Deflected responsibility for Bengazi, kept emails on her own private servers illegally, and covered up her husband's illicit affairs.&lt;br /&gt;
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And I'm sure you could name more.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Conservapedia's Opinion on Joseph McCarthy ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello,&lt;br /&gt;
I noticed that you reverted my edit to the Joseph McCarthy page. I made the edit to align with the views expressed in a news story I saw in the main page that described McCarthy as &amp;quot;two of a kind&amp;quot; with Robert Mueller. I feel that Conservapedia should be consistent, so I would appreciate it if the news story was removed/replaced, or the McCarthy article was changed.--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 18:35, 16 May 2018 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Word of Wisdom</title>
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&lt;div&gt;The '''Word of Wisdom''' is a commandment followed by members of the [[Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints]] (Mormons).  The commandment mentions substances that are not to be consumed, as well as other basic tenets of living a healthy life.  The full text of the Word of Wisdom can be found in [[Doctrine and Covenants]], section 89.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scriptures.lds.org/en/dc/89 Doctrine and Covenants 89]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
The Word of Wisdom was written by [[Joseph Smith]], Jr., on February 27, 1833, in response to a question by his wife, [[Emma Smith|Emma]].  Joseph had instituted a school for training leaders of the Church, known as the [[School of the Prophets]], which was holding its meetings in a small room over Joseph's kitchen.  According to [[Brigham Young]], &lt;br /&gt;
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The brethren came to that place for hundreds of miles to attend school in a little room probably no larger than eleven by fourteen. When they assembled together in this room after breakfast, the first they did was to light their pipes and, while smoking, talk about the great things of the kingdom and spit all over the room, and as soon as the pipe was out of their mouths a large chew of tobacco would then be taken. Often when the Prophet entered the room to give the school instructions he would find himself in a cloud of tobacco smoke. This, and the complaints of his wife at having to clean so filthy a floor, made the Prophet think upon the matter, and he inquired of the Lord relating to the conduct of the Elders in using tobacco, and the revelation known as the Word of Wisdom was the result of his inquiry.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Journal of Discourses'' 12:158&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Originally, as stated in the text itself, the Word of Wisdom was not held to be a commandment.  However, in February 1834, Joseph Smith proposed a resolution, which was subsequently unanimously accepted, &amp;quot;No official member in this Church is worthy to hold an office after having the word of wisdom properly taught him; and he, the official member, neglecting to comply with and obey it.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 117.''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The Word of Wisdom has henceforth been considered a commandment, and adherence to its precepts is necessary for anyone seeking [[baptism]] or admittance into the [[temple]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Commandment==&lt;br /&gt;
The Word of Wisdom specifically prohibits the consumption of the following substances:&lt;br /&gt;
*Wine and other strong drinks ([[Alcoholic drink|alcohol]]); a provision was left in this section which allowed members of the Church to produce their own &amp;quot;pure wine&amp;quot; for use in the [[Sacrament]], but water is now invariably used throughout the Church.&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Tobacco]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Hot drinks (later interpreted to mean [[tea]] and [[coffee]])&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, the Word of Wisdom promotes the use of wholesome [[herb]]s, [[fruit]]s, the flesh of beasts and fowls (sparingly), and [[grain]]s.  In return for compliance with the precepts given in the commandment, blessings such as health, wisdom, knowledge,  and strength are promised.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Other prohibited substances==&lt;br /&gt;
Although not specifically mentioned in the Word of Wisdom, some people have taken to abstaining from [[caffeine]] due to its connection with tea and coffee.  The Church has no official position on the consumption of caffeine, although Church leaders have regularly exhorted members to avoid all addicting substances.  It should be noted that members who drink decaffeinated tea or coffee are still considered to be in violation of the Word of Wisdom.&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>Joseph McCarthy</title>
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'''Joe McCarthy''' (Joseph Raymond McCarthy, November 14, 1908 – May 2, 1957) was a two-term [[Republican]] [[United States Senate|United States Senator]] from [[Wisconsin]].  He dominated the anti-[[communist]] movement in the United States, 1950–54, until his career receded after censure by the Senate.  '''&amp;quot;McCarthyism&amp;quot;''' is the aggressive exposure of Communist influences in America and the people who protect them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Beginning in 1950, McCarthy became the most visible public figure to object to [[Communist]] infiltration of the [[United States]] government. A 1954 Gallup poll found that Joe McCarthy was the fourth on its list of most admired men.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.knology.net/~bilrum/mccarth5.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He is now considered an American hero by many, though in reality he engaged in demagoguery and false accusations to further his own career, in a similar way to [[Robert Mueller]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2018/05/13/constitution/mccarthy-mueller-two-kind/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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He was noted for claiming that there were large numbers of [[Communist Party|Communists]] and [[Soviet Union|Soviet]] spies and sympathizers, engaged in a conspiracy to undermine the United States, inside the federal government. He was proven correct by government documents and inquiry, including decrypted [[Venona]] files. &lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy lost support in 1953 when he started attacking the U.S. Army and suggesting that Republican President [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] was protecting subversives.  Eisenhower signaled Republicans to stop his attacks on the Army.  Although McCarthy had strong support among Catholics, such as [[Joe Kennedy]], in 1954 the Senate censured him on charges of attacking fellow Senators; this caused his influence to collapse abruptly.&lt;br /&gt;
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The term &amp;quot;[[McCarthyism]]&amp;quot; was coined in 1950 in reference to McCarthy's aggressive attempts to ferret out suspects, occasionally in the absence of evidence.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life==&lt;br /&gt;
Joseph McCarthy was born to a poor Irish Catholic farm family in Appleton, Wisconsin.  A hyperactive, extroverted youth, he dropped out of school after eighth grade to start his own poultry business. After the chickens all died, he enrolled in the local public high school.  Thanks to enormous energy and a retentive mind, he finished his coursework in less than a year at age 20.  After two undergraduate years at [[Marquette University]], a leading [[Jesuit]] school in [[Milwaukee]], McCarthy entered Marquette Law School, acquiring the rudiments of the profession that he soon used to knit together a statewide network among Irish and German Catholics.   McCarthy was a practicing Catholic his entire life, but rarely referred to religion or ethnicity in his speeches.  He actively supported President [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]] in the Young Democrats, but did not join Irish organizations.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although defeated in his 1936 race for district attorney, McCarthy displayed remarkable campaign abilities and an astonishing memory for faces.  He had the energy and determination to meet every voter in person, exuding charm and a concern for the voter as an individual.  The same tactics paid off in 1939, when he was successful in a nonpartisan contest for a regional judgeship.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The youngest judge in state history, he worked long hours to clear up a large backlog. He administered justice promptly and with a combination of legal knowledge and good sense. He was still a Democrat, but that party was very weak statewide at the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Military service===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JosephMcCarthyMilitaryUniform.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Joseph McCarthy in the U.S. Marine Corps]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1942 McCarthy, volunteered for the [[Marines]] (as a judge he was draft exempt), becoming an intelligence officer in an aviation unit heavily engaged in combat in the South Pacific.  Although assigned a desk job McCarthy flew numerous combat missions as a tail gunner—he exaggerated the number to qualify for a Distinguished Flying Cross.  &lt;br /&gt;
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During his 30 months of military service, McCarthy's record was unanimously praised by his commanding officers and Admiral [[Chester Nimitz]], commander in chief of the Pacific Fleet. Admiral Nimitz issued the following citation regarding the service of Captain McCarthy: &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|For meritorious and efficient performance of duty as an observer and rear gunner of a dive bomber attached to a Marine scout bombing squadron operating in the [[Solomon Islands]] area from September 1 to December 31, 1943. He participated in a large number of combat missions, and in addition to his regular duties, acted as aerial photographer. He obtained excellent photographs of enemy gun positions, despite intense anti-aircraft fire, thereby gaining valuable information which contributed materially to the success of subsequent strikes in the area. Although suffering from a severe leg injury, he refused to be hospitalized and continued to carry out his duties as Intelligence Officer in a highly efficient manner. His courageous devotion to duty was in keeping with the highest traditions of the naval service.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cohn, Roy (1968). ''McCarthy''. The New American Library, Inc., pgs. 273-274. ASIN B000KIR8FC&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Elected to Senate, 1946==&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy had his name entered in the Republican primary for U.S. Senate in 1944, opposing a well-entrenched incumbent Republican, Alexander Wiley.  The absentee war hero ran a strong second, making a name for himself statewide and making himself available for the 1946 Senate contest. &lt;br /&gt;
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Why McCarthy suddenly changed parties was never explained, but prospects for ambitious Wisconsin politicians were dim inside the poorly organized Democratic party, for most [[New Deal]]ers supported the state’s [[Progressive party#LaFollete creates a third party in 1924|Progressive party]].  During the war, however, that party collapsed, torn apart between its [[New Deal]] domestic liberalism, and its intensely isolationist opposition to Roosevelt’s foreign policy.   Increasingly out of touch with Wisconsin, its leader [[Robert LaFollette Jr.]] looked to his family’s past glories and made the blunder of trying for reelection to the Senate in 1946 as a Republican.  &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Tail Gunner Joe,&amp;quot; as his posters called him, endlessly crisscrossed Wisconsin while LaFollette remained in Washington, offered an alternative in the Republican primary to old guard Republicans who had opposed the Lafollettes for a half century.  McCarthy brilliantly captured the frustrations citizens felt about massive strikes, unstable economy, price controls, severe shortages of housing and meat, and the growing threat of from the far left in the [[Congress of Industrial Organizations|CIO]].  He nipped LaFollette in the primary. The slogan “Had Enough?—Vote Republican” gave the Republicans a landslide all across the North, electing a new junior senator from Wisconsin.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Communist Issue==&lt;br /&gt;
In Washington, McCarthy was a mainstream conservative in domestic policy, and, like many veterans, was an internationalist in foreign affairs, supporting the [[Marshall Plan]] and [[NATO]].  His speeches rarely mentioned domestic Communism or flaming issues like the [[Alger Hiss]] espionage case, but that suddenly changed in early 1950 when his vivid [[anti-Communist]] rhetoric drew national attention. &amp;quot;The issue between the Republicans and Democrats is clearly drawn. It has been deliberately drawn by those who have been in charge of twenty years of treason.”  Alleging there were many card-carrying Communists in U. S. President [[Harry S. Truman]]’s State Department, McCarthy forced a Senate investigation led by Millard Tydings, Democrat of [[Maryland]]. McCarthy named numerous suspect diplomats but failed to convince the three Democrats on the panel; they  concluded his allegations were “a fraud and a hoax,” while the two Republicans dissented. McCarthy retaliated by campaigning against Tydings, who was defeated for reelection in November 1950.  What the senator himself called McCarthyism was a factor in key races across the country; all his candidates won and his stock soared. A few weeks later American forces were crushed by the [[History of China#Communist Party|Chinese]] in [[Korean War|Korea]], and in spring 1951 Truman tried to shift the blame by firing General [[Douglas MacArthur]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Support from Catholics and Kennedys==&lt;br /&gt;
The great majority of Catholics were anti-Communist, but they were also loyal Democrats, so to enlarge his base McCarthy, a Republican, needed an alliance with anti-Communist Catholics.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Martin E. Marty, ''Modern American Religion: 1941-1960'' (1996) 3:358&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Catholic bishops and the Catholic press was &amp;quot;among McCarthy's most fervid supporters.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Charles R. Morris, ''American Catholic'' (1997) p. 248-50, quote on p. 248; James Waldron Arnold, ''Objectivity in Selected Catholic Diocesan Newspapers'' (1954) p. 49.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A major connection was with the powerful Kennedy family, which had very high visibility among all Catholics in the Northeast.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kevin Kenny, ''The American Irish'' (2000), 242-43.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Well before he became famous McCarthy became closely associated with [[Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr.]]. He was a frequent guest at the Kennedy compound in Hyannis Port and at one point dated Joe's daughter Patricia. After McCarthy became nationally prominent, Kennedy was a vocal supporter and helped build McCarthy's popularity among Catholics. Kennedy contributed cash and encouraged his friends to give money. Some historians have argued that in the Senate race of 1952, Joe Kennedy and McCarthy made a deal that McCarthy would not make campaign speeches for the Republican ticket in [[Massachusetts]], and in return, Congressman and future U.S. President [[John F. Kennedy]] would not give anti-McCarthy speeches. In 1953 McCarthy hired [[Robert Kennedy]] as a senior staff member. When the Senate voted to censure McCarthy in 1954, Senator Kennedy was in the hospital and never indicated then or later how he would vote; he told associates he could not vote against McCarthy because of the family ties.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michael O'Brien, ''John F. Kennedy: A Biography'' (2005); Crosby, ''God, Church, and Flag''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Political dominance==&lt;br /&gt;
In 1950, McCarthy discussed his upcoming 1952 campaign with three fellow Catholics (Father Edmund A. Walsh and Charles H. Kraus of [[Georgetown University]] and Washington attorney Wiliam A. Roberts).   Kraus had recommended Father Walsh's recent books dealing with Communism to McCarthy, and was hoping to interest McCarthy in the problems of Communism in the world.  McCarthy's reputation among the voters was not good at that time, due to various ethical and tax violation problems, and he needed an issue that would help improve his chances of re-election.  He latched enthusiastically onto the idea of attacking Communists in the government.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Richard H. Rovere, Senator Joe McCarthy, (Harcourt, Brace, Jovanovich), 1959.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Subsequently, McCarthy called Willard Edwards of the ''[[Chicago Tribune]]'' asking for assistance with a speech on Communism.  Edwards sent some materials, including a copy of a letter written on July 26, 1946, by [[James F. Byrnes]], Secretary of State under Truman.  This letter was the central support for McCarthy's subsequent claims to have a list of Communists in the government.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Pursuant to Executive Order, approximately 4,000 employees have been transferred... Of those 4,000 employees, the case histories of approximately 3,000 have been subjected to a preliminary examination, as a result of which a recommendation against permanent employment has been made in 284 cases by the screening committee... Of the 79 actually separated from the service, 26 were aliens and therefore under &amp;quot;political disability&amp;quot; with respect to employment in the peacetime operations of the Department.  I assume that factor alone could be considered the principal basis for their separation.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This document was repeatedly cited by McCarthy as the basis for his accusations; unfortunately, there was no list at that time.&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy now became one of the dominant leaders in American politics, with strong support among both Republicans and Catholic Democrats, as he alleged that Truman’s top people had betrayed America.  He singled out Secretary of State [[Dean Acheson]] and Secretary of Defense [[George Marshall]].  Liberals were aghast; Truman had picked General Marshall to head the State and Defense departments precisely because he thought the elderly statesman would always be above criticism, no matter that China turned from a staunch ally to a bitter enemy on his watch.  McCarthy’s blistering attacks on Marshall as “part of a conspiracy so immense, an infamy so black, as to dwarf any in the history of man” fueled the belief he was a wild-man, a pathological liar who overstepped the bounds of political discourse. &lt;br /&gt;
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With [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] crusading against “Korea, Communism and Corruption” in 1952, Republican victory was assured.  As a senior member of  the majority party McCarthy for the first time became a committee chairman, with control of staffing and agenda. He used his Government Operations Committee to open highly publicized hearings in 1953-54 alleging disloyalty in the State Department, the United States [[Central Intelligence Agency]] (CIA), the U.S. Information Agency, and finally the Army.  His furious attacks on the Army led to the televised “Army-McCarthy” hearings in spring 1954, which exposed his bullying tactics to a national audience.  As McCarthy’s poll rating plunged, his enemies finally pulled together to introduce a censure resolution focused on charging McCarthy with contempt for the federal government, and especially for his fellow senators.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Backlash==&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy’s charges that over-educated liberals tolerated Communism at home and abroad had stung the liberals.  He alleged that they had corruptly sold out the national interest to protect their upper class privileges, and were so idealistic about world affairs that they radically underestimated the threat posed by Soviet dictator [[Joseph Stalin|Stalin]], his spies, and the worldwide Communist movement.  Instead of refuting the allegations, Liberals tried one of two approaches.  Some became intensely anti-Communist and claimed they were more effective than McCarthy and the Republicans in eliminating Communism in the unions and Democratic party, and in containing the Stalinist menace in Europe.  The other approach was to counterattack, to charge that “McCarthyism” never found a single spy but hurt innocent people in hunting for nonexistent witches; thus it represented an evil betrayal of American values.  In an appeal to upscale conservatives and liberal intellectuals, critics ignored the Communist infiltration of labor unions and liberal causes and focused on stereotyping anticommunists as ill-mannered ignorant troglodytes, oblivious to American traditions of free speech and free association.  McCarthy’s exaggerations and false charges encouraged opponents to stress the second approach, but it escalated the controversy to a pitch of hatreds and fears unprecedented since the days of [[Reconstruction]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Loss of influence==&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy’s superb sense of timing and his media instincts kept his partisan attacks on the front page every day; his willingness to do battle in the hustings with Democratic opponents across the country strengthened his base in the Republican party. His religion and ethnicity, refreshed with highly visible friendships with leading Irish Catholics, especially the Kennedy family, bolstered his standing among Democrats.   According to Gallup, McCarthy’s popularity crested in January 1954, when he was endorsed by all voters 50-29 (with 21 having no opinion).  His core support came from Republicans and Catholics who had not attended college. &lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy, however, failed to create any sort of grass roots organization.  He had no organizational skills; he did not effectively use his talented staffers (such as [[Robert Kennedy]]).  He was a loner who lurched from issue to issue, misled by the enormous media publicity into believing that a one-man crusade was possible in an increasingly well-educated complex society honeycombed with local, regional and national organizations.  By operating within the Republican party apparatus he lost the opportunity to create an independent grass roots political crusade in the style of [[Theodore Roosevelt|Teddy Roosevelt]], [[Huey Long]], or [[Ross Perot]]. He never launched his own magazine or radio show or formed alliances with publishers who agreed with him.  &lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy’s strained relations with Senate colleagues created a trapdoor. It was sprung after many Republicans realized that he had shifted the attack away from the Democrats.  What use was his slogan “20 Years of Treason” once Eisenhower was in office? McCarthy’s answer was “21 Years of Treason!”  Eisenhower’s supporters could no longer tolerate such a loose cannon, and as McCarthy unwisely shifted his attacks to Eisenhower’s beloved Army, his cause was doomed.  While many Americans distrusted [[Ivy League]], striped pants diplomats, soldiers were held in high regard; McCarthy’s charges of subversion were flimsy (one Communist dentist had been automatically promoted); he sabotaged his own reputation by finagling favors for an aide who had been drafted.  The televised hearings proved fatal to an ill-prepared bully. After the Democrats regained control of Congress in the 1954 elections, the censure motion carried, 67-22.  McCarthy’s appeal, so widespread yet superficial, evaporated overnight and the Senator faded into the shadows.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The term &amp;quot;McCarthyism&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy is permanently associated with the use of the word &amp;quot;McCarthyism&amp;quot; (a word which he did not coin, but of which he  did make use according to a sense more aligned with his actual philosophy) to mean an aggressive attack on Communists who had infiltrated America and on the liberals who protected them—an attack, however, without regard for due process.  Although the left was unable to make heroes of the people who supported and sometimes were controlled by Stalin, they did make heroes of opponents of McCarthy, painting him as the internal menace to American values that was far worse than Communist subversion. Schrecker (1998) sees McCarthyism as anti-Communist political repression of the early Cold War, and explores its mechanisms through, and what she considers the exaggerated public fears on which it depended. During the 1940s-1950s, McCarthyism took on a variety of forms with an array of agendas, interested parties, and modes of operating. Despite its widespread and popular character, it started with the federal government and was driven by a network of dedicated anti-Communist crusaders such as [[J. Edgar Hoover]], director of the United States [[Federal Bureau of Investigation]] (FBI).  McCarthyism's repression both responded to and helped create widespread fears of a significant threat to national security.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Margaret Chase Smith]], Republican senator from [[Maine]], gained a national reputation as one of the earliest critics McCarthyism with a Senate speech on June 1, 1950, called &amp;quot;the Declaration of Conscience.&amp;quot; It was an attempt by Smith to address the excesses of McCarthyism, and was widely hailed as a call to reason by McCarthy's opponents. Smith gave a critique of the American political process and political institutions in the responses to dissent on the left and the right. Smith, like other McCarthy critics, sought to bring a level of civility to political protest and dissent. She and many others who objected to the tactics of McCarthy actually believed in the underlying tenets of his anti-Communist crusade. Their responses to his excesses reflected a desire to narrow the scope of acceptable political dissent.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Gregory Peter Gallant, &amp;quot;Margaret Chase Smith, McCarthyism and the Drive for Political Purification.&amp;quot;  PhD dissertation U. of Maine 1992. 302 pp.  DAI 1992 53(5): 1642-A. DA9227981&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Impact on government==&lt;br /&gt;
Rausch (2000) argues McCarthy's campaign {{cquote|had a lasting impact on the conduct of U.S. foreign relations, particularly among professional diplomatic institutions like the State Department and its [[United States Foreign Service|Foreign Service]] personnel, and McCarthyism did not disappear with the senator's censure in 1954. The 'ism' in a broad sense was a set of ideas not only about internal subversion but also about the outside world, including a simplistic, isolationist anti-communism and a deep suspicion about social reform movements abroad. It stood in open opposition to a more complex, even accommodating, view of communism.  Instead of ending the hunt for subversives begun under Truman, Eisenhower made the search systematic, universal, and more broadly defined. McCarthyist Scott McLeod took over security and personnel functions of the State Department and became one of the most famous and despised men in the executive branch. McLeod brought McCarthyist methods and assumptions to bear in ridding the department of what he defined as security risks. Oral history sources provide key evidence for the destructive atmosphere within the department in these years, and they shed valuable light on McLeod's impact on the foreign affairs bureaucracy.  In the short term, the Foreign Service declined in morale, prestige, and influence. By 1954, professionally trained diplomacy, with nuanced, internationalist views lost ground to more simplistic, strictly anticommunist views. During Eisenhower's second term, the Foreign Service and the more moderate approach experienced a resurgence but still faced opposition from hard-liners who survived the McCarthy years.   The Latin American branch of the department embodied the changes in professional diplomacy towards one region of the world. Within the division were the institutionalized tensions of the Eisenhower administration, between career diplomats and political appointees, conservative and moderate anti-communists, and trained diplomats and other specialists. The U.S. embassy in Cuba showed this internal conflict in a microcosm, as the administration's response to Latin American revolution evolved after 1954. McCarthyism accompanied Eisenhower into office, and its effects continued into his last foreign policy crisis and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rausch, Scott Alan (2000).  [http://digital.lib.washington.edu/researchworks/handle/1773/10401 Abstract of ''McCarthyism and Eisenhower's State Department, 1953-1961''].  Thesis (Ph. D.)  (Seattle, WA:  University of Washington).  Abstract retrieved from University of Washington's ResearchWorks archive on April 2, 2015.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[California]] McCarthyism began before the Senator was famous. In 1946 in the [[Los Angeles]] schools two teachers from Canoga Park High School were called before the Tenney Senate Investigating Committee on charges of communistic teaching. The two teachers were exonerated of all charges, but a campaign to rid the LA district of dissident teachers was effectively launched. The target of the campaign was a group of teachers who belonged to the Los Angeles Federation of Teachers (LAFT), formerly known as Union Local 430 and chartered under the American Federation of Teachers, until 1948, when the AFT revoked the charter. By 1954, Los Angeles teachers were required to take five loyalty oaths, although not one teacher was ever charged with or convicted of subversion. In 1953, the Los Angeles City School Board announced that 304 teachers were to be investigated because of alleged Communist affiliations. The Dilworth Oath, made law in 1953, required teachers to answer questions posed to them by the Investigating Committees. Teachers who refused to answer the Committee questions by claiming their [[Fifth Amendment]] rights could then be fired by the Board for insubordination.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ellen Chase Verdries, &amp;quot;Teaching with the Enemy: An Archival and Narrative Analysis of McCarthyism in the Public Schools.&amp;quot;  PhD dissertation Claremont Grad. School 1996. 286 pp.  DAI 1997 57(9): 3853-A. DA9703815&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Media and popular culture==&lt;br /&gt;
Historians have debated the degree to which McCarthyism permeated the American mood and popular culture. Anti-Communist liberals at the time said it played to isolationism (especially strong in McCarthy's Wisconsin) by diverting attention away from the real threat, Stalin's Soviet Union as an external power.  The Left said that they had a First Amendment right to their beliefs and that McCarthyism had a chilling effect.  Dussere (2003) shows that comic strip artist Walt Kelly in &amp;quot;Pogo&amp;quot; parodied McCarthyism and promoted leftist politics as old-fashioned American common sense, representing a time when concerns about art and politics with respect to popular culture were in the forefront.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Hoover's FBI targeted retired film comedian [[Charlie Chaplin]] because of his status as a cultural icon and as part of its broader investigation of Hollywood. Some of Chaplin's films were considered &amp;quot;Communist propaganda,&amp;quot; but because Chaplin was a British citizen and was not a member of the Communist Party, he was not among those investigated by the [[House Un-American Activities Committee]] in 1947. Nevertheless, he was vulnerable to protests by the American Legion and other patriotic groups because of both his sexual and political unorthodoxy. Although countersubversives succeeded in driving Chaplin out of the U.S., they failed to build a consensus that Chaplin was a threat to the nation. Chaplin's story testifies to both the power of the countersubversive campaign at mid-century and to some of its limitations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sbardellati and Shaw (2003)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Strout (1999) looks at [[Christian Science Monitor|''The Christian Science Monitor'']] during the McCarthy era (1950-1954); it was a highly influential newspaper at home and abroad. Strout asks: (1) Was the ''Monitor'' a consistent critic of McCarthy? (2) How did the coverage compare to other elite and popular press newspapers? (3) How did the pressures associated with McCarthyism effect individuals at the ''Monitor'' and its news product? An extensive review of editorials and news articles suggests that it was thorough and fair in reporting, yet outspoken and responsible in editorial criticism. [[Mary Baker Eddy]]'s original 1907 statement that, &amp;quot;The purpose of the ''Monitor'' is to injure no man, but to bless all mankind,&amp;quot; was referred to repeatedly in interoffice correspondence during the McCarthy era. The ''Monitor'' did not attack McCarthy personally as other papers did; rather, its criticism centered on the actions of the senator and the negative effects they were having at home and abroad. The ''Monitor'' served as a voice of moderation, yet at the same time, remained a persistent critic of McCarthy's tactics.  Individuals were affected by the pressures of McCarthyism.  For instance, veteran Washington correspondent Richard L. Strout was suspended from covering McCarthy for eight to 12 months after being mentioned in McCarthy's book, ''McCarthyism: The Fight for America.''&lt;br /&gt;
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==''I have in my hand...''==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FBI-Chart-Web.png|right|450px|thumb|FBI Master Chart of distribution in 1945-46 of investigative reports to the White House, Attorney General, and employing agencies of Communist agents in the Federal government.]]&lt;br /&gt;
It was McCarthy's charges of Communist, security, and loyalty risk infiltration of the State Department that shot him into prominence in 1950. At a Lincoln Day speech, on February 9, 1950, before the Republican Women's Club of Wheeling, [[West Virginia]], at the Colonnade Room of Wheeling's McClure Hotel, he stated: &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|I have in my hand 57 cases of individuals who would appear to be either card-carrying members or certainly loyal to the Communist Party, but who nevertheless are still helping to shape our foreign policy.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Senator Joseph McCarthy, [http://faculty.tnstate.edu/tcorse/h2020/senator_joseph_mccarthy.htm Speech at Wheeling, West Virginia], 1950, Congressional Record of the Senate, 81st Congress 2nd Session, February 20, 1950 (Tennessee State University). Cf. ''Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951, reprinted from the Congressional Record'' (Washington, DC: United States Government Printing Office, 1951); &amp;quot;Senator Joe McCarthy's Visit to Valley Area,&amp;quot; ''Wheeling Intelligencer'', February 11, 1950; &amp;quot;57 Reds Help Shaping U.S. Policy: McCarthy,&amp;quot; ''Denver Post'', February 11, 1950; ''Salt Lake Tribune'', February 11, 1950; ''Salt Lake Telegram'', February 11, 1950; [http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/mccarthy-telegram/images/telegram-page-1.gif McCarthy to President Truman] (telegram), February 11, 1950; &amp;quot;McCarthy Blasts State Department,&amp;quot; ''Nevada State Journal'', February 12, 1950.&lt;br /&gt;
*McCarthy, Joseph (February 9, 1950) &amp;quot;[http://us.history.wisc.edu/hist102/pdocs/mccarthy_wheeling.pdf Speech at Wheeling], West Virginia, 9 February 1950,&amp;quot; in Michael P. Johnson, ed., Reading the American Past, Vol. II (Boston: Bedford Books, 1998), pgs. 191-195.&lt;br /&gt;
*Vernon, Wes (January 13, 2006). [http://www.aim.org/aim_report/A4297_0_4_0_C/ ''AIM Report: Looney Clooney Smears Senator McCarthy'']. Accuracy In Media&lt;br /&gt;
*Irvine, Reed and Kincaid, Cliff (September 13, 2000). [http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/A2958_0_2_0_C/ ''Joe McCarthy, a Victimizer or Victim'']. Accuracy In Media&lt;br /&gt;
*Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent (1954, 1995 Printing). ''McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning''. Regnery Publishing Inc., pgs. 41-61. ISBN 0-89526-472-2.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy compiled a list of 57 security risks and publicly named [[John S. Service]], Gustavo Duran, [[Mary Jane Keeney]], Harlow Shapley, and [[H. Julian Wadleigh]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander Vassiliev, Notes on A. Gorsky’s Report to Savchenko S.R., 23 December 1949.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; as being on the list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Reeves, Thomas C. (1997). ''The life and Times of Joe McCarthy: A Biography''. Madison Books. pgs. 222-238. ISBN 1-56833-101-0.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  These names came from the &amp;quot;Lee List&amp;quot; of unresolved State Department security cases compiled by the earlier investigators for the House Appropriation Committee in 1947.  Robert E. Lee was the committee’s lead investigator and supervised preparation of the list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, State Department Employee Loyalty Investigations (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1950).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In a six-hour speech on the Senate floor on February 20, 1950 in which McCarthy was constantly interrupted by hostile senators; four of whom — Scott Lucas (61 times), Brien McMahon (27 times), Garrett Withers (22 times), and Herbert Lehman (13 times) — interrupted him a total of 123 times, McCarthy raised the issue of some eighty individuals who had worked in the [[State Department]], or wartime agencies such as the [[Office of War Information]] (OWI) and the [[Board of Economic Warfare]] (BEW).&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy sought to avoid naming names publicly when possible, using numbered cases instead of names in public session. He preferred to name his suspects only in executive session, in order to protect those who might have been erroneously identified by the FBI, State Department Security, Army counterintelligence, etc. &amp;quot;[I]t would be improper to make the names public until the appropriate Senate committee can meet in executive session and get them,&amp;quot; explained McCarthy. &amp;quot;If we should label one man a Communist when he is not a Communist I think it would be too bad.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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But when McCarthy began reading his numbered cases to the Senate, the Democrat Majority Leader, [[Illinois]] Senator Scott Lucas, interrupted, &amp;quot;I want him to name those Communists.&amp;quot; In response to McCarthy's desire not to name names publicly in order to protect the innocent, Lucas bizarrely referred to the fact that statements in Congress are privileged against defamation suits, saying, &amp;quot;if those people are not Communists the senator will be protected.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;M. Stanton Evans, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=xCaDcYsr0sgC Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies]'' (Crown Forum 2007) ISBN 1400081068, p. 202.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (This was hardly germane: McCarthy's expressed concern was not about protecting ''himself'', but protecting ''suspects who might be innocent''.) McCarthy responded:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|The Senator from Illinois demanded, loudly, that I furnish all the names. I told him at that time that so far as I was concerned, I thought that would be improper; that I did not have all the information about these individuals ... I have enough to convince me that either they are members of the Communist Party or they have given great aid to the Communists: I may be wrong. That is why I said that unless the Senate demanded that I do so, I would not submit this publicly, but I would submit it to any committee — and would let the committee go over these in executive session. It is possible that some of these persons will get a clean bill of health...}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Democratic Senator William Benton of [[Connecticut]] introduced a bill to eject McCarthy from the Senate. His first charge was that at Wheeling, McCarthy had said that he had a list of 205 names, rather than 57 names. The Senate (then under Democrat control) sent staff investigators to Wheeling to try to substantiate Benton's charges. The investigation found no evidence to support Benton's charge. According to one investigator:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The newly unearthed evidence demolished Senator Benton’s charges in all their material respects and thoroughly proved Senator McCarthy’s account of the facts to be truthful.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Statement by Daniel Buckley, December 13, 1951, McCarthy papers, cited in M. Stanton Evans, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=xCaDcYsr0sgC Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies]'' (Crown Forum 2007) ISBN 1400081068, pp. 438-439.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
Senate Democrats quietly buried the 44-page staff memo summarizing these findings, but the charge that McCarthy had said “205” was likewise dropped. Thus the ''Congressional Record'' to this day records that McCarthy said &amp;quot;57,&amp;quot; not &amp;quot;205.&amp;quot; Nevertheless, many on the left continue to promote Benton's discredited claim as gospel.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Washington Post (February 12, 1950).''Washington Post, February 12, 1950; McCarthy's speech in Wheeling &amp;amp; letter to President Truman are cited in the article titled &amp;quot;Security Risks&amp;quot; to the lower left of the photo''. Washington Post [http://www.conservapedia.com/images/thumb/4/49/Washpost1950.jpg/250px-Washpost1950.jpg]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
Benton made this allegation only about McCarthy's speech in Wheeling, West Virginia and not in the other cities where he made the speech. The 205 number actually came in another part of his speech; on February 20, 1950, in a speech made on the floor of the Senate, McCarthy officially clarified the issue:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|I have before me a letter which was reproduced in the ''Congressional Record'' on August 1, 1946, at page A4892. It is a letter from James F. Byrnes, former Secretary of State. It deals with the screening of the first group, of about 3,000. There were a great number of subsequent screenings. This was the beginning.&lt;br /&gt;
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The letter deals with the first group of 3,000 which was screened. The President—and I think wisely so—set up a board to screen the employees who were coming to the State Department from the various war agencies of the War Department. There were thousands of unusual characters in some of those war agencies. Former Secretary Byrnes in his letter, which is reproduced in the ''Congressional Record'', says this: &lt;br /&gt;
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''Pursuant to Executive order, approximately 4,000 employees have been transferred to the Department of State from various war agencies such as the [[Office of Strategic Services|OSS [Office of Strategic Services]]], [[Foreign Economic Administration|FEA [Foreign Economic Administration]]], [[Office of War Information|OWI [Office of War Information]]], OIAA [Office of Inter-American Affairs], and so forth. Of these 4,000 employees, the case histories of approximately 3,000 have been subjected to a preliminary examination, as a result of which a recommendation against permanent employment has been made in 285 cases by the screening committee to which you refer in your letter.''&lt;br /&gt;
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In other words, former Secretary Byrnes said that 285 of those men are unsafe risks. He goes on to say that of this number only 79 have been removed. Of the 57 I mentioned some are from this group of 205, and some are from subsequent groups which have been screened but not discharged. &lt;br /&gt;
I might say in that connection that the investigative agency of the State Department has done an excellent job. The files show that they went into great detail in labeling Communists as such. The only trouble is that after the investigative agency had properly labeled these men as Communists the State Department refused to discharge them. I shall give detailed cases.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy was able to characterize President Truman and the Democratic Party as soft on or even in league with the Communists. McCarthy's allegations were rejected by Truman who was unaware of [[Venona project]] decrypts which corroborated [[Elizabeth Bentley]]'s debriefing after her defection from the Communists.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to Gallup, McCarthy’s popularity crested in January 1954, when he was endorsed by all voters 50-29 (with 21 having no opinion).  His core support came from Republicans and Catholics who had not attended college.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;50 percent of the respondents had a generally &amp;quot;favorable opinion&amp;quot; of him.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | publisher = Cornell University Press&lt;br /&gt;
 | page = 342&lt;br /&gt;
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On March 9, 1954, [[CBS]] broadcasted [[Edward R. Murrow]]'s ''See It Now'' TV documentary attacking McCarthy.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Venona files===&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1995, when the [[Venona files|Venona]] transcripts were declassified, further detailed information was revealed about Soviet espionage in the United States.  FBI Director [[J. Edgar Hoover]] was among only a handful of people in the U.S. Government who was aware of the Venona project, and there is no indication whatsoever Hoover shared Venona information with McCarthy.  In fact, Hoover may have actually fed McCarthy [[disinformation]], or dead end files, in an effort to put pressure on relatives, friends, or close associates of real Venona suspects by threatening to reveal embarrassing information about them in a public forum if they failed to cooperate and reveal what they might have known about someone's else’s activities and associations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
* FBI Silvermaster file, Vol. 150, [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster150.pdf pgs. 50-64] pdf. Excerpts from memorandum by FBI agent Edward Morgan asserting that there was no possible legal case against the Bentley suspects and that investigation should be discontinued, with possible exception of trying to get one of the weaker suspects to break.&lt;br /&gt;
* FBI Silvermaster file, Vol. 93, [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster093.pdf pgs. 166 - 170] pdf.  Original Edward Morgan memo 1/14/47, &amp;quot;The only reasonable hope of salvaging a successful prosecution is (a) to endeavor to make an informant of one of the subjects and/or (b) interview the subjects in the hope that at least one will break...Failing to successfully develop one of the subjects as an informant, I doubt if any more can be accomplished of probative value through further investigation...This case will stand or fall dependent upon the extent to which the subjects may break and in breaking corroborate [Elizabeth Bentley].  I personally am of the opinion that the Bureau would be derelict in its responsibility in this instance if the various subjects were not thoroughly and exhaustively interviewed.  The odds are not too good that such interviews would terminate successfully; however, it is quite possible that some lesser lights among the subjects would crack during the course of a careful and pointed interview....one of the subjects, probably the weakest sister, be contacted with a view to making him an informant.   This is an outside chance but offers the only reasonable prospect of making a case with respect to contemporaneous and future events.  Failing in this respect, that immediately the other subjects be exhaustively interviewed.  Since an interview with one would virtually amount to putting all of them on notice, it would seem logical to conduct such interviews as nearly simultaneously as possible....That failing to break any of the subjects, serious consideration be given to exposing this lousy outfit and at least hounding them from Federal service.  Several possibilities exist in this regard but this would seem to be a bridge to cross when we get to it.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  And there is no indication McCarthy might have known he was being used by Hoover in this way.&lt;br /&gt;
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On February 7, 1950, three days before McCarthy's acclaimed Wheeling, West Virginia speech, Hoover testified before House Appropriations Committee that [[Glossary of espionage terms#Counterintelligence|counterespionage]] requires &amp;quot;an objective different from the handling of criminal cases. It is more important to ascertain his contacts, his objectives, his sources of information and his methods of communication&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;arrest and public disclosure are steps to be taken only as a matter of last resort.&amp;quot; He concluded that &amp;quot;we can be secure only when we have a full knowledge of the operations of an espionage network, because then we are in a position to render their efforts ineffective.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/history/foxpaper.htm In the Enemy’s House: Venona and the Maturation of American Counterintelligence], John F. Fox, Jr., FBI Historian, Presented at the 2005 Symposium on Cryptologic History, 10/27/2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy is said to have made the claim, &amp;quot;I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party.&amp;quot; The famous &amp;quot;List&amp;quot;, as it has come to be known, has always engendered much controversy. The figure of 205 appears to have come from an oral briefing McCarthy had with Hoover regarding espionage suspects the FBI was then investigating.  The FBI had discovered on its own five Soviet agents operating in the United States during World War II; defector Elizabeth Bentley further added another 81 known identities of espionage agents; Venona materials had provided the balance, and by the time a full accounting of true name identities was compiled in an FBI memo in 1957, one more subject had been added to the number, now totaling 206.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/FBI_Synopsis_on_%22Operations_of_the_MGB_Residency_at_New_York,_1944-45%22 FBI Memo Referencing 206 Communists in Government]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Much confusion has always surrounded the subject.  While the closely guarded FBI/Venona information of identified espionage agents uses the number of 206, McCarthy in his Wheeling speech only referred to Communist Party membership and other security risks, and not espionage activity.  Being a security risk as a [[Communist Party of the United States of America]] (CPUSA) member does not necessarily entail or imply that a person was or is actively involved in espionage activity.  Venona materials indicated a very large number of espionage agents remained unidentified by the FBI.  When McCarthy was questioned on the number, he referred to the Lee List of security risks, by which it appears Hoover was attempting to match unidentified code names to known security risks. Hoover kept the identities of persons known to be involved in espionage activity from Venona evidence secret. Hoover in the very early days of the FBI's joint investigation with the [[Army Signals Intelligence Service]] in May 1946 did precisely the same deception with a confidant of [[President Truman]] using Venona decryptions.  Hoover reported that a reliable source revealed “an enormous Soviet espionage ring in Washington.” Of some fourteen names, [[KGB|Soviet agents]] [[Alger Hiss]] and [[Nathan Gregory Silvermaster]] were listed well down the list. The name at the top was “Undersecretary of State [[Dean Acheson]]” and included others beyond reproach, thus discrediting the Hiss and Silvermaster accusations, which actually were on target. Hence the Truman White House always suspected Hoover and the FBI of playing partisan political games with accusations of various administration members’ complicity in Soviet espionage.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*FBI Silvermaster file, [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster050.pdf Vol. 50, pgs. 13-16] pdf, May 29, 1946.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.fas.org/sgp/library/moynihan/foreword.html Moynihan Commission on Government Secrecy, Chairmans Forward], 1997.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Venona project specifically references at least 349 pseudonyms in the United States&amp;amp;mdash;including citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents&amp;amp;mdash;who cooperated in various ways with Soviet intelligence agencies, however not all were ever identified.  In public hearings before the [[Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations]] (PSI) conducted by McCarthy, 83 persons pled the Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination.  An additional 9 persons refused to testify on constitutional grounds in private hearings, and their names were not made public.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Drummey, James J. (May 11, 1987). [http://www.jbs.org/node/632 ''The Real McCarthy Record'']. The New American, Section III. Committee Chairman (1953-54).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of the 83 persons pleading the Fifth Amendment, several have been identified by [[NSA]] and [[FBI]] as agents of the Soviet Union in the [[Venona project]] involved in espionage. Several prominent examples are:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mary Jane Keeney]], a United Nations employee, and her husband [[Philip Keeney]], who worked in the [[Office of Strategic Services]];&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Senator McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;Then there was a Mrs. Mary Jane Keeney from the Board of Economic Warfare in the State Department, who was named in a F.B.I. report and a House Committee report as a courier for the Communist Party while working for the Government. And where do you think Mrs. Keeney is — she is now an editor in the U.N. Documents Bureau.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Lauchlin Currie]], a special assistant to President Roosevelt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On September 9, 1950, at the Columbia County Republican Club in Portage, Wisconsin, Senator McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;Just turn back a page of history to 1945. This  Lauchlin Currie was administrative assistant to the President. This is the same Lauchlin Currie who has been named under oath by [[Elizabeth Bentley]] as the man who tipped off her Russian espionage agents that we were about to break the Japanese code...This is the same Lauchlin Currie whose picture I hold in my hand, with a picture of [[Harry Dexter White]], John Abt, and Alger Hiss — all named under oath repeatedly as Communists...At that time Lauchlin Currie was Administrative Assistant to the President. The Joint Chiefs of Staff approved sending vast amounts of German captured arms to those fighting Communism in China. After the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Eisenhower had approved the shipment — after vast quantities had left German ports destined for our allies in China — Lauchlin Currie, Truman's Administrative Assistant, the man named by Bentley and Chambers, signed an order on White House stationery ordering that all this military equipment be destroyed.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 14, 1951, Senator McCarthy gave the Senate information about Currie and his connection to the other individuals involved in supporting the Chinese Communists. He stated, &amp;quot;The Stilwell-Davies group took over in China in 1942. Soon thereafter, Lauchlin, at the White House, and [[John Carter Vincent]], and subsequently [[Alger Hiss]] at the State Department were exercising their influence at the Washington end of the transmission belt conveying poisonous misinformation from ChungKing. The full outlines of Currie's betrayal have yet to be traced....In this connection it should be recalled that Currie issued an order on White House stationery depriving the Republic of China of 20,000 German rifles.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Virginius Frank Coe]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;McCarthy Hearings, Testimony of V. Frank Coe, Executive Session, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol1.pdf Vol. 1]: 147-50, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvo43.pdf Vol. 4]: 3403, 3413, 3417-18, 3421, 3428-29&lt;br /&gt;
  testimony of, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol2.pdf Vol. 2]: 1349-72.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Director of Division of Monetary Research, U.S. Treasury;  Technical Secretary at the Bretton Woods Conference; International Monetary Fund;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[William Ludwig Ullman]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;McCarthy Hearings, Testimony of William Ludwig Ullman, Executive Session, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol3.pdf Vol. 3]: 2146, 2147, 2152, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol4.pdf Vol. 4]: 3403, 3411-14, 3418, 3421, 3426-29, testimony of, Vol. 3: 2345-49.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; delegate to the United Nations Charter Conference and Bretton Woods Conference;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Nathan Gregory Silvermaster]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;McCarthy Hearings, Testimony of Nathan Gregory Silvermaster, Executive Session, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol2.pdf Vol. 2]: 1349, 1361, 1362,  [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol4.pdf Vol. 4]: 3403, 3412-14, 3425-29.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Chief Planning Technician, Procurement Division, United States Department of the Treasury and head of the Silvermaster network of spies;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Harold Glasser]], U.S. Treasury Representative to the Allied High Commission in Italy;&lt;br /&gt;
* Four staff members of the [[LaFollette Committee|LaFollette Civil Liberties Committee]], a Senate subcommittee on labor rights;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Allan Rosenberg]], Chief of the Economic Institution Staff, [[Foreign Economic Administration]]; Counsel to the [[National Labor Relations Board]];&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Solomon Adler]], U.S. Treasury Dept., went to China and joined government of [[Mao Zedong]]; &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Robert T. Miller]], Office of the Coordinator of Inter-American Affairs; Near Eastern Division United States Department of State; also identified in the ''Gorsky Memo'' from Soviet Archives; McCarthy's Case #16 and Lee list #12;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander Vassiliev, Notes on A. Gorsky’s Report to Savchenko S.R., 23 December 1949.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Franz Leopold Neumann]], consultant at Board of Economic Warfare; Deputy Chief of the Central European Section of Office of Strategic Services; First Chief of Research of the [[Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal]]; also identified in the ''Gorsky Memo'' from Soviet Archives; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Laurence Duggan]], head of United States Department of State Division of American Republics;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Joseph R. McCarthy Papers, Series 14, Senate Subject Files, Marquettte University Library Special Collections.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leonard Mins]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/resources/pdf/Volume3.pdf Army Signal Corps—Subversion and Espionage, October 22] (PDF). Executive Sessions Of The Senate Permanent Subcommittee On Investigations Of The Committee On Government Operations; Vol. 3. pgs. 2717-2726, U.S. Government Printing Office (1953).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Russian Section of the Research and Analysis Division of the [[Office of Strategic Services]];&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cedric Belfrage]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/06amay20030700/www.gpo.gov/congress/senate/mccarthy/83870.html Executive Sessions of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations], Vol. 2, Eighty-third Congress, 14 May 1953, pgs. 1135-1164.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[British Security Coordination]]; founder the ''[[National Guardian]]''. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gerald Graze]], U.S. State Department; Lee List #29, confirmed in the ''Gorsky Memo'' from Soviet Archives, brother of Stanley Graze;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sergey Nikolaevich Kurnakov]], ''[[Daily Worker]]'';&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Joseph R. McCarthy Papers, Series 14, Senate Subject Files, Marquettte University Library Special Collections.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Karr]], Office of War Information; chief aide to journalist Drew Pearson.&lt;br /&gt;
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Venona transcripts confirm the Senate Civil Liberties Subcommittee, chaired by former Senator Robert LaFollette, Jr., whom McCarthy defeated for election in 1946, had at least four staff members working on behalf of the [[KGB]].  Chief Counsel of the Committee [[John Abt]]; [[Charles Kramer]], who served on three other Congressional Committees; Allen Rosenberg, who also served on the [[National Labor Relations Board]], [[Board of Economic Warfare]] (BEW), the [[Foreign Economic Administration]] (FEA) and later argued cases before the United States Supreme Court; and [[Charles Flato]], who served on the BEW and FEA, all were [[CPUSA]] members and associated with the [[Comintern]].&lt;br /&gt;
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While the underlying premise of Communists in the government was true, many of McCarthy's targets were not complicit in espionage.  Recent scholarship has established of 159 persons investigated between 1950 and 1952, there is substantial evidence nine had assisted Soviet espionage using evidence from Venona or other sources.  Of the remainder, while not being directly complicit in espionage, many were considered security risks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page62.html  Senator Joseph McCarthy’s Lists and Venona], by John Earl Haynes, April 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Known security/loyalty risks===&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 1947, a Senate Appropriations subcommittee addressed a secret memorandum to Secretary of State George Marshall, calling to his attention a condition that developed and was continuing in the State Department.  The memo stated that &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|it was evident there was a deliberate, calculated program being carried out not only to protect communist personnel in high places, but to reduce security and intelligence protection to a nullity. On file in the department is a copy of a preliminary report of the FBI on Soviet espionage activities in the United States which involved a large number of State Department employees, some in high official positions.}}&lt;br /&gt;
Robert E. Lee was the committee’s lead investigator and supervised preparation of the list. The Lee list, also using numbers rather than names, was published in the proceeding of the subcommittee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, State Department Employee Loyalty Investigations (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1950).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The memorandum listed the names of nine State Department officials and said that they were &amp;quot;only a few of the hundreds now employed in varying capacities who are protected and allowed to remain despite the fact that their presence is an obvious hazard to national security.&amp;quot;  Ten persons were removed from the list by June 24. But from 1947 until McCarthy's Wheeling speech in February 1950, the State Department did not fire one person as a loyalty or security risk.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/jepeurifoy.htm John Emil Peurifoy, Foreign Service Office &amp;amp; United States Ambassador],  Arlington National Cemetery Website, retrieved 21 March 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In other branches of the government, however, more than 300 persons were discharged for loyalty reasons alone during the period from 1947 to 1951. &lt;br /&gt;
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Most but not all of Senator McCarthy’s numbered cases were drawn from the “Lee List” or “108 list” of unresolved Department of State security cases compiled by Lee for the House Appropriations Committee in 1947.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page62.html  Senator Joseph McCarthy’s Lists and Venona], by John Earl Haynes, April 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   The Tydings subcommittee also obtained this list.  In addition to some of the person involved in espionage identified in the [[Venona project]] listed above, there are other security and loyalty risks identified correctly by Senator McCarthy included in the following list:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Robert Warren Barnett]] &amp;amp; [[Mrs. Robert Warren Barnett]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #48 and #49 respectively and both are on Lee list as #59;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Presented by McCarthy as Case Numbers 48 and 49 respectively and both are Number 59 on the Lee list. McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;The letters of charges against the Barnetts—both Robert Warren Barnett and his wife, Mrs. Robert Warren Barnett—charge them with close association and constant contact with known Soviet espionage activity.&amp;quot; See also FBI Silvermaster file, Vol. 116, Robert Barnett contacts with [[Donald Wheeler]] formerly of [[OSS]]; Robert Barnett also served in OSS.&lt;br /&gt;
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Robert Barnett contacts with [[Donald Wheeler]] formerly of [[OSS]]; Robert Barnett also served in OSS.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Esther Brunauer]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #47 and Lee list #55;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Presented by McCarthy as Case Number 47 and Number 55 on the Lee list. She belonged to a number of [[Communist front]] organizations, including chairman of a meeting of the American Friends of the Soviet Union where the main speaker was a well known Communist and writer for the ''Daily Worker''. &amp;quot;Brunauer was a signer of a call to the annual meeting of the [[American Youth Congress]] which was publicly known to be completely dominated by the Communist Party. She admitted that her husband had Communist connections and had been a member of the [[Young Communist League]].&amp;quot; Brunauer was suspended by the State Department in 1951 pending adjudication of security proceedings against her. On June 16, 1952, she was discharged by the State Department as a security risk. See ''McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning'' for greater detail on this case.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Stephen Brunauer]], U.S. Navy, chemist in the explosive research division;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;Brunauer, an admitted former member of the Young Communist League, was suspended from his job as head of the Navy's high explosives section where he was engaged in top secret work. He resigned before the Navy's Loyalty Board could complete questioning him and dispose of his case.&amp;quot; Brunauer also had a reputation for associating with know Communists. McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;For example, his very good friend, [[Noel Field]], a known Communist and espionage agent, spent night after night with Stephen Brunauer, who had access to all the top secrets in the explosive section of our Navy. Field then left the country, and has since disappeared behind the iron curtain, taking with him all the information which his friend Brunauer had given him ... What forced the Navy to take action was that it appeared during the atom-spy investigations that Stephen Brunauer was involved.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Gertrude Cameron]], Information and Editorial Specialist in the U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #55 and Lee list #65;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Presented by McCarthy as Case Number 55 and Number 65 on the Lee list. Just like [[Arpad Erdos]], [[Nelson Chipchin]], [[John Tipton Fishburn]], [[Stella Gordon]], [[Myron Victor Hunt]], [[Esther Less Kopelewich]], [[Franz Leopold Neumann]], [[Robert Ross]], [[Sylvia Schimmel]], and [[Frances M. Tuchser]] on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Cameron as being one of the individuals that he had given to the [[Tydings Committee]] a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Cameron, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Cameron remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Cameron, like, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on her activities despite concerns about her loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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An FBI Surveillance report on [[Edward Fitzgerald (Soviet spy)|Edward Fitzgerald]] from September 1947 notes that on May 20, 1947 Fitzgerald's brother-in-law had lunch with [[J. Robert Oppenheimer]] and an appointment with [[Leslie Groves]].  Sometime later Frank Cameron, a regular contact of Fitzgerald tried to contact Gertrude Cameron in the State Department from the Fitzgerald’s home.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | publisher = Federal Bureau of Investigation}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Nelson Chipchin]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's list #23;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Presented by McCarthy as Case Number 23. Just like [[Arpad Erdos]], [[Gertrude Cameron]], [[John Tipton Fishburn]], [[Stella Gordon]], [[Myron Victor Hunt]], [[Esther Less Kopelewich]], [[Franz Leopold Neumann]], [[Robert Ross]], [[Sylvia Schimmel]], and [[Frances M. Tuchser]] on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Chipchin as being one of the individuals that he had given to the [[Tydings Committee]] a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Chipchin, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Chipchin remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Chipchin, like Cameron, Fishburn, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on his activities despite concerns about his loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9707&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Oliver Edmund Clubb]], U.S. State Department;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy presented Clubb's name and evidence against him to the [[Tyding's Committee]]. In 1952, by unanimous vote, the U.S. State Department Loyalty and Security Board found that Clubb's employment in the State Department constituted a security risk. The Deputy Under Secretary for Administration, Carlisle Humelsine agreed with this decision. Clubb ultimately resigned. On March 5, 1952, [[Dean Acheson|Secretary Acheson]] confirmed to the Media that Senator McCarthy was correct.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John Paton Davies]], U.S. State Department, Policy Planning Committee;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy stated that, &amp;quot;Both [John Stewart] Service and Davies spent considerable time in China as State Department officials. In their recommendations to Washington both followed the Communist Party line. For example, on November 7, 1944, Davies submitted a memorandum to the State Department outing that the Communist Party in China was 'a modern dynamic popular government.' At the same time he referred to the anti-Communists as 'feudal.' 'The Communists are in China to stay. And China's destiny is not Chiang's but theirs,' said Davies. On December 12, 1944 he urged that we supply the Chinese Communists with arms — a proposal which Dean Acheson two years later requested Congress to approve.&amp;quot; In 1944, Ambassador to China, [[Patrick J. Hurley]], accused Davies of working behind his back to support the Communists. According to Hurley, &amp;quot;Davies had one day flown off to Yenan to tell [[Mao Zedong|Mao TseTung]], the Communist leader, that Hurley, our Ambassador (an anti-Communist), did not represent the American viewpoint.&amp;quot; According to ''The China Story'' by [[Freda Utley]], Davies was a great fan of Communist operative [[Agnes Smedley]] who operated in China. Utley states, &amp;quot;Davies was also a great admirer of [[Agnes Smedley]], whom he called one of 'the pure in heart.' He used to invite us all to excellent dinners at the American consulate, at which he expressed both his admiration and affection for Agnes. Together with [[Edgar Snow]] and other journalists I knew in Hankow, he [Davies] became one of the most potent influences in the Department [of State] furthering the cause of the Chinese Communists.&amp;quot; The [[United States Senate Subcommittee on Internal Security|McCarran Committee]] had found that Davies had &amp;quot;testified falsely before the subcommittee in denying that he recommended the Central Intelligence Agency employ, utilize and rely upon certain individuals having Communist associations and connections. This matter was...substantial in import.&amp;quot; Despite the enormous evidence of Davies' support of the Communists, the State Department cleared him of being a security/loyalty risk. Eventually, in 1954, under political pressure from McCarthy and Senator [[Patrick McCarran]], Secretary of State [[John Foster Dulles]] asked Davies to resign. When he refused, on 5 November 1954, Dulles terminated his employment, stating that Davies had &amp;quot;demonstrated a lack of judgment, discretion and reliability.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = June 14, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 6574&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Utley&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Freda &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = The China Story&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Chicago, H. Regnery Co.&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B00005VL2B}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The Devin-Adair Company&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B0007DRBZ2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gustavo Duran]], U.S. State Department, assistant to the Assistant Secretary of State in charge of Latin American Affairs, and Chief of the Cultural Activities Section of the Department of Social Affairs of the United Nations;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Duran Case is considered one of Senator McCarthy's &amp;quot;Nine Public Cases&amp;quot;. McCarthy attempted to present evidence of Gustavo Duran's status as a security risk during the [[Tydings Committee]]. In violation of its mandate, the Tydings Committee refused to discuss McCarthy's evidence. Intelligence reports presented by McCarthy made the case quite clear that Duran was a bad security risk. All evidence submitted indicated that Duran was a Communist agent prior and during WWII, who took orders directly from the Soviet Union. It is unclear whether Duran was either hired with the knowledge that he had a Communist Party background or whether the State Department Loyalty Board simply failed to perform its obligation to properly screen out security risks. Either way, the State Department failed to perform its duties.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}},&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = February 20, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 1956&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}},&lt;br /&gt;
 Isaac Walton League, Fond du Lac (July 30, 1950), Wisconsin)&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = FBI Silvermaster file, Tamm to the Director, &lt;br /&gt;
 | date = April 22, 1946&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster042.pdf Vol. 42, pg. 100] pdf&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = FBI Silvermaster file&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = October 10, 1946&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster076.pdf [Vol. 76, pgs. 9 and 126] pdf&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government}}; (heavily redacted). Memorandum discuss inquiry from the U.S. Statement as to the participation of Alger Hiss, Gustavo Duran and others in the [[Amerasia]] case. Fitch recommends replying to the State Dept. by referring to the detailed memoranda on Hiss and Duran which was previously submitted and a summary memo transmitted to General Holmes, to Fred Lyon's attention on May 29, 1945 in connection with [[Philip Jaffe]] and the Amerasia case (pg. 9).  Statement that memos on Alger Hiss and Gustavo Duran will follow. Hiss memo is included, but that on Duran is not (pg. 126).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Arpad Erdos]], U.S. State Department;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like [[Gertrude Cameron]], [[Nelson Chipchin]], John Tipton Fishburn, [[Stella Gordon]], [[Myron Victor Hunt]], [[Esther Less Kopelewich]], Franz Leopold Neumann, [[Robert Ross]], [[Sylvia Schimmel]], and [[Frances M. Tuchser]] on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Erdos as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Erdos, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Erdos remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Erdos, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Gordon, Hunt, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on his activities despite concerns about his loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Herbert Fierst]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's case #1 and Lee list #51;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Presented by McCarthy as Case Number 1 and Number 51 on the Lee list. Fierst was employed by the State Department beginning in September, 1946. In 1951, he was placed into the loyalty-security channels of the State Department. The Civil Service Loyalty Review Board expressed dissatisfaction with the handling of his case, and sent it back to the State Department Board for readjudication. Afterwards, a judgment was issued by the Civil Service Loyalty Review Board that, &amp;quot;a State Department officer's loyalty status had not been explored with sufficient thoroughness even after seven years.&amp;quot; According to Robert L. Bannerman, Special Assistant and security officer in the State Department, in a memo issued by him on August 2, 1946, indicates that, &amp;quot;physical surveillance showed that this man Fierst was in constant contact with members of an espionage group and that he recommended Communists for State Department employment, and was engaged in a number of other Communist activities.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9707&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster064.pdf Vol. 64, pg. 240] pdf. Brief background on Herbert Fierst.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster077.pdf Vol. 77, pg. 202] pdf, September 1946.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* John Tipton Fishburn, U.S. State Department; Lee list #106;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, Stella Gordon, Myron Victor Hunt, Esther Less Kopelewich, Franz Leopold Neumann, Robert Ross, Sylvia Schimmel, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Fishburn as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Fishburn, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Fishburn remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Fishburn, like Cameron, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on his activities despite concerns about his loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
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 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Theodore Geiger]], U.S. State Department;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
During the Tydings Committee hearings, Robert Morris, the Chief Counsel for the Minority, stated that Geiger was engaged in espionage activities as part of a Communist Party cell operating in the U.S. Morris offered to provide several witnesses who were also in Geiger's Communist Party cell however the Chairman of the Tydings Committee, [[Millard Tydings]] declined to hear the testimony. On July 25, 1950, Senator McCarthy told the Senate about this case and that the witnesses to Geiger's Communist Party cell where willing to testify but that [[Millard Tydings]] refused the opportunity to expose a known Communist working for the State Department.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = July 25, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 1091&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Stella Gordon, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #40 and Lee list #45&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Myron Victor Hunt, Esther Less Kopelewich, Franz Leopold Neumann, Robert Ross, Sylvia Schimmel, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Gordon as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Gordon, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Gordon remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Gordon, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Hunt, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on her activities despite concerns about her loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Stanley Graze]], U.S. State Department intelligence; McCarthy's Case #8 and Lee list #8, brother of Gerald Graze, confirmed in KGB Archives;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Graze was McCarthy's Case Number 8. Graze and his brother, [[Gerald Graze|Gerald]], were both employed by the State Department during [[World War II]] and in 1944, Gerald was identified as a secret member of the [[Communist Party of the United States]]. Even so, Stanley continued to work for the State Department until 1948. Oddly enough, on April 20, 1948, the Loyalty Security Board cleared him. Ten days later he resigned and became employed with the United Nations. Both Gerald and Stanley Graze are identified in the 1948 ''Gorsky Memo'' of Compromised American sources and networks having a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence. On October 14, 1952, while testifying before the [[United States Senate Subcommittee on Internal Security|McCarran Committee]] he refused to answer questions regarding participation in the [[Communist Party of the United States]] and questions regarding espionage activity against the U.S. How Graze passed the State Department's Review Board remains unexplained.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ruth Marcia Harrison]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #7 and Lee list #4;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Harrison as being a U.S. State Department employee who was clearly a security and loyalty risk. McCarthy mentioned that Harrison belonged to a long list of [[Communist front]] organizations and the Library of Congress branch of the Communist Party. Harrison was investigated by various branches of the Federal government numerous times before her termination in 1951, mainly because of her involvement in the 1930’s in organizations that had been identified as subversive. These organizations include the American Student Union, the [[Young Communist League]], and the Washington Bookshop Association. Subversive elements in the Federal government were able to clear Harrison in all prior investigations, but in 1951, her luck ran out. An informant revealed that Harrison had been active in the Library of Congress branch of the Communist Party when she was employed there as a cataloger, and this information ultimately led to the Loyalty and Security Board’s determination that Harrison posed a security risk as a Federal employee. Government documents related to her case that were declassified after amendments to the Freedom of Information Act in 1975, including investigation files from the [[FBI]], the State Department, the [[CIA]], and the Civil Service Commission indicated that the government's case against Harrison was absolutely correct and her termination justified.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9707&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Myron Victor Hunt, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #65 and Lee list #79;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Stella Gordon, Esther Less Kopelewich, Franz Leopold Neumann, Robert Ross, Sylvia Schimmel, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Hunt as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Hunt, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Hunt remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Hunt, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on his activities despite concerns about his loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Philip Jessup]], U.S. State Department, Assistant Director for the Naval School of Military Government and Administration at Columbia University in New York, Delegate to the U.N. in a number of different capacities, Ambassador-at-large, and Chairman of the Institute of Pacific Relations Research Advisory Committee; McCarthy's Case #15;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy's first comments regarding Jessup were made during the Tydings Committee hearings where McCarthy stated that Jessup had an unusual affinity for Communist causes. McCarthy was never allowed by the Tydings Committee to outline his case regarding Jessup but the committee did allow Jessup to fly in from Pakistan and give his defense against charges that McCarthy had not yet even made. Needless to say, the Tydings Committee cleared Jessup as they did with everyone that appeared before them. However, in two speeches on the floor of the Senate, McCarthy gave his evidence regarding Jessup's &amp;quot;unusual affinity for Communist causes&amp;quot;. They are as follows:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(1) That Jessup had been affiliated with five [[Communist front]] groups;&lt;br /&gt;
(2) That Jessup had been a leading light in the [[Institute of Pacific Relations]] (IPR) at a time that organization was reflecting the Communist Party line;&lt;br /&gt;
(3) And that he had &amp;quot;pioneered the smear campaign against Nationalist China and Chiang Kai-shek&amp;quot; and propagated the &amp;quot;myth of the 'democratic Chinese Communist'&amp;quot; through the IPR magazine, ''Far Eastern Survey'', over which he had &amp;quot;absolute control&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
(4) That Jessup had associated with known Communists in the IPR;&lt;br /&gt;
(5) That the IPR's American Council under Jessup's guidance had received more than $7,000 of Communist funds from [[Frederick Vanderbilt Field]];&lt;br /&gt;
(6) That Jessup had &amp;quot;expressed vigorous opposition&amp;quot; to attempts to investigate Communist penetration of the IPR;&lt;br /&gt;
(7) That Jessup had urged that United States atom bomb production be brought to a halt in 1946, and that essential atomic ingredients be &amp;quot;dumped into the ocean&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
(8) That Jessup had appeared as a character witness for Alger Hiss, and that later, after Hiss's conviction, Jessup had found &amp;quot;no reason whatever to change his opinion about Hiss's veracity, loyalty and integrity.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
While it may be questionable that Jessup pioneered the smear campaign against Chiang Kai-Shek, it's clear that he aided in it. There's no doubt that every single one of these allegations was essentially correct. Solid evidence shows that Jessup was associated with four Communist front organizations. They are as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
the [[American Russian Institute]], the [[National Emergency Conference]] (and its successor, the [[National Emergency Conference for Democratic Rights]]), the [[American Law Students Association]], and the [[American Council of the Institute of Pacific Relations]]. According to the House Committee on Un-American Activities each of these organizations was cited as Communist front groups at the time of Jessup's association with them. Although the Tydings Committee did not allow McCarthy to present his evidence against Jessup, the Tydings Committee did refer to some of McCarthy's evidence that were made on the floor of the Senate. Of course, as usual, the Tydings Committee either ignored the significance of the evidence or downplayed it. It was up to the [[United States Senate Subcommittee on Internal Security|McCarran Committee]] a year later to do the real investigating and in discussing the IPR, it stated, &amp;quot;The IPR was a vehicle used by Communists to orientate American Far Eastern policy toward Communist objectives.&amp;quot; The McCarran Committee Hearings clearly indicate that the IPR was more than just a Communist front organization in that there was an active Communist &amp;quot;cell&amp;quot; that put the services of the IPR at the disposal of &amp;quot;Communist imperialism&amp;quot;. And that this was achieved by &amp;quot;manipulating&amp;quot; the IPR's policy-making officials.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The McCarran Committee reported that ten of the thirty-three individuals whom Jessup recommended as delegates to the IPR Hot Springs Convention in January of 1945 have been named as members of the Communist Party. Jessup was well aware that Frederick Vanderbilt Field was a member of the Communist Party, and especially so when Field resigned from the IPR to devote full time to the Communist front organization, [[American Peace Mobilization]].&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Jessup also presided over the State Department Policy Conference of October 1949 that was not only stocked with Jessup's pro-Communist associates but also, in the words of the McCarran Committee, which stated, &amp;quot;...the prevailing [majority] view at the conference advocated (a) the recognition of Communist China; (b) normal trade relations between the United States and Communist China; (c) encouragement of trade between Japan and Communist China; (d) economic assistance to Communist China; (e) recognition that Communist conquest in Asia was a natural and inevitable consequence of revolutionary ferment in Asia with its Communist nature being incidental.&amp;quot; [[Harold Stassen]] and [[General Joseph Fortier]] have respectively testified that Jessup not only ignored advice to disregard the pro-Communist direction of the conference and that Jessup was in favor of recognizing Communist China. The above evidence clearly demonstrates that Jessup was at least a security risk and that the State Department Loyalty program failed to identify him as such. &lt;br /&gt;
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 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
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 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Tydings Committee Hearings&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Pages 28, 41, 42, 100, 229, 247, 256, 257, 273, 497-498, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | date = March 30, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Pages 4402-4405&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = June 2, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Pages 8000-8003&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarran Report,&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = July 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Pages 100-103, 122-123, 147-148, 212, 225, 494-495, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dorothy Kenyon]], New York City Municipal Court Judge, U.S. State Department appointee as American Delegate to the United Nations Commission on the Status of Women;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Dorothy Kenyon is considered one of McCarthy's &amp;quot;Nine Public Cases&amp;quot; that was presented to the Tydings Committee. Kenyon was McCarthy's first case and it took two days in order for McCarthy to present the evidence due to the constant interruptions by members of the Tyding's Committee. This prompted Senator Lodge to state that, &amp;quot;I think to interrupt the witness [McCarthy] every time and break up his continuity and destroy the flow of his argument, the way we are doing, is not the right procedure....For some reason that has not been made clear to me, whether it is to rattle or whether it is to confuse, I don't know, we have an entirely different procedure today...I am objecting to the constant interruption of the witness so that he never gets a fair shake.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Despite the constant harassment, McCarthy's evidence included showing that Kenyon belonged to at least 24 Communist front organizations labeled as such in part by the [[United States Attorney General]], the [[House Un-American Activities Committee]], and other governmental committees. The documents presented by McCarthy included, official organization letterheads that listed Kenyon as a sponsor or as a member, official programs of organization sponsored dinners, and newspaper reports of open letters that Kenyon had signed that connected her with the organizations. Certainly, these were all documents that were easily accessible to the State Department should they have cared to look into Kenyon's political background.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
When Kenyon was asked by the Tydings Committee whether she had ever been interviewed by the State Department as to her affiliation to any Communist front organizations, she responded that she had never been asked. According to the security evaluation procedure of the State Department, Kenyon should have been asked about these affiliations but failed to do so. McCarthy had easily demonstrated from this first case that the screening process of the State Department was certainly lax and quite possibly purposefully ignoring easily identifiable security risks. However, the Tydings Committee instead ignored this evidence and set the precedent for the hearings that anyone that came before the committee was going to be given a positive evaluation no matter how strongly the evidence indicated the witness was a security risk.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Tydings Committee Hearings&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 68&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = March 30, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Pages 4380-81&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leon Hirsch Keyserling]], President [[Harry Truman]]'s Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Keyserling had an extensive background of service in the U.S. government. He had helped to shift the emphasis of U.S. economic policy toward a more [[Socialist]]ic structure. Evidence in the form of sworn testimony submitted to the McCarran Committee indicated that he agreed with the principles of the Communist Party except for the idea that Communization of the U.S. could only be achieved through &amp;quot;bloody revolution&amp;quot; and he was against the idea of a separate political entity for Black people in the U.S. South. Other than those two details, Keyserling, a major official in the U.S. government, agreed with the Communization of the U.S. Less than a year after Senator McCarthy made this information public, Keyserling left U.S. government work for the private sector yet continued to act as a paid consultant to the U.S. Congress.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 21, 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 4153&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Dublin Keyserling]], U.S. Department of Commerce;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Keyserling is the wife of [[Leon Hirsch Keyserling]] and also had an extensive background working for the U.S. government. On April 21, 1952, McCarthy gave her specifics to the Senate. He stated that the evidence presented to the Commerce Department's Loyalty Board showed that Keyserling had been a member of the Communist Party and that she also belonged to a great many Communist front organizations.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 21, 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 4153&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Esther Less Kopelewich, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #24;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Stella Gordon, Myron Victor Hunt, Franz Leopold Neumann, Robert Ross, Sylvia Schimmel, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Kopelewich as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Kopelewich, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Kopelewich remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Kopelewich, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on her activities despite concerns about her loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Owen Lattimore]], Board member of the communist-dominated [[Institute of Pacific Relations]] (I.P.R) and editor the I.P.R.’s journal ''Pacific Affairs'';&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Identified by McCarthy as a Communist and under Party discipline. Former Communist Party member and head of the Buben group of spies, [[Louis Budenz]] corroborated McCarthy's claims and detailed how Lattimore had been of service to the Communist Party in the ''Amerasia'' case. Lattimore was also identified by former Soviet Army General [[Alexander Barmine]] as a member of Russian Military Intelligence ([[GRU]]). In a unanimous report, the McCarran Committee classified Lattimore as a &amp;quot;conscious articulate instrument of the Soviet conspiracy&amp;quot;. Lattimore wrote a letter of introduction for [[Haakon Chevalier]] to [[KGB]] operative, [[Lauchlin Currie]]. Chevalier was attempting to obtain a Government job during this period of time. Chevalier is a known Soviet Secret Intelligence Service ([[NKVD]]) contact and was associated with numerous members of the Communist Party on the West Coast. Currie also recommended Lattimore to President Roosevelt to serve as a special advisor to [[Chiang Kai-shek]]. Indicted for committing perjury. In December 1952, Currie gave evidence in New York to a grand jury investigating Lattimore's role in the publication by [[Amerasia]] magazine of secret State Department documents. All evidence indicates that Lattimore was a security and a loyalty risk and served to guide U.S. foreign policy to the detriment of U.S national interests.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The Devin-Adair Company&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B0007DRBZ2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paul A. Lifantieff-Lee]], U.S. Naval Department; McCarthy's Case #56 and Lee list #66;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Born in the Soviet Union. On August 9, 1951, McCarthy presented to the Senate information about Lifantieff-Lee. He stated that, &amp;quot;His file in the Navy Department, which was transmitted to the State Department, shows that he took secret State Department documents, which were found in his room and picked up by naval intelligence. That is shown by the naval intelligence report.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Val R. Lorwin]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #54 and Lee list #64;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In December, 1945, Lorwin became employed with the State Department. He quickly became Chief of the State Department's  European Division of International Labor, Social, and Health Affairs. After that, he became a labor economist for the State Department. On February 5, 1952, approximately one year after the [[Tyding's Committee]] cleared Lorwin, the State Department suspended him. On March 28, 1952, he was restored to full duty, and in June 1952, was formally cleared of all charges regarding security or loyalty issues. Shortly thereafter, Lorwin resigned, and went to work for the University of Chicago as an assistant professor of social sciences and industrial relations. According to Buckley, &amp;quot;on December 4, 1953, a Federal Grand Jury handed down an indictment of Lorwin, charging that he had lied under oath in claiming (1) that he had never been a member of the Communist Party, (2) that he had never carried a Communist Party card, and (3) that he had never held a Communist Party meeting in his home.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The Devin-Adair Company&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B0007DRBZ2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Daniel F. Margolies]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #41 and Lee list #46;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy gave the Senate information on an employee of the State Department named Daniel F. Margolies. McCarthy described Margolies as, &amp;quot;one of the top security men in the State Department&amp;quot; and was hired by the State Department despite the fact that he was disapproved on the grounds that he was a &amp;quot;bad loyalty and security risk.&amp;quot; The State Department never explained the rationale in hiring someone who was clearly a security and loyalty risk.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9707&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://foia.fbi.gov/silversm/silversm5c.pdf FBI Silvmaster file 5c pg. 11 pdf]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Peveril Meigs]], U.S. State Department; Department of the Army; McCarthy's Case #3 and Lee list #2;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Meigs became employed with the State Department in September, 1945, and was allowed to resign from the State department in 1948 even though there were concerns regarding his security/loyalty. McCarthy related to the Senate the fact that Meigs was under investigation by the State Department's security/loyalty board yet was allowed to resign without noting his file as having been under investigation. Subsequently, Meigs went to work for the Department of the Army and after McCarthy communicated to the Army that Meigs should be investigated, the Army then looked into Meigs' background and found him to be a clear loyalty/security risk. In January 12, 1952 and again on May 26, 1952, McCarthy stated to the Senate that, &amp;quot;On February 20, I believe, I laid before the Senate the case of Perveril Meigs. The State Department held a hearing. They knew that they could not conceivably clear Perveril Meigs, even with the type of board which they have. What did they do? They notified him that he would not be cleared, so he then resigned, went over to the Army and got a job in the Army, with no notification to the Army that this man was an extremely bad security risk because of close association with espionage agents. It was only after we called the Army's attention to the case that the Army Loyalty Board took the case up, and of course, they promptly ordered him discharged.&amp;quot; Meigs' case is a perfect example of the State Department covering up either its' incompetence in hiring individuals that are security/loyalty risks and/or in being able to properly filter out such individuals once they are employees of the State Department. The tactic of informing a suspected security/loyalty risk and allowing him or her to resign was a strategy implemented in order for the State Department to avoid appearing incompetent or as though they did not make any effort to avoid hiring loyalty/security risks. &lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = January 15, 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 192&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = May 26, 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 5963&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The Devin-Adair Company&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B0007DRBZ2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ella M. Montague]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #34 and Lee list #32;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
She was born in the [[Soviet Union]] in 1896. On August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;She [Montague] worked for the [[Amtorg Trading Corporation]]. The testimony before three different committees is that only top members of the Communist Party could work for Amtorg.&amp;quot; McCarthy also stated that, &amp;quot;...5 or 6 of the officers of Amtorg were picked up about a year ago and charged with espionage. Under pressure from the State Department they were allowed to return to Russia.&amp;quot; As usual, McCarthy was correct about both Montague being a security/loyalty risk and about Amtorg being a front organization to further the expansionistic goals of the Soviet Union. [[Amtorg Trading Corporation]] is an American company based in New York that was founded in 1924 by the Soviet Union to serve as its buying and selling organization in trade between the USSR and the USA. It handled the bulk of Soviet-American trade until 1935, and continues to exist today. Working as an Amtorg employee served as a convenient cover for Soviet spies, such the Soviet spy, [[Morris Cohen]].&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9707&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = The American Legion&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1937&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = ISMS: A Review of Alien Isms, Revolutionary Communism, and Their Active Sympathizers in the United States, Pages 85-87&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The American Legion, Indianapolis&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B000KIJS6Y}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Philleo Nash]], Presidential Advisor, [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]] and [[Harry S. Truman]] administrations;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On January 29, 1952, Senator McCarthy outlined the charges against Nash, who had been a Presidential advisor in the Franklin D. Roosevelt and Truman administrations. McCarthy stated that this matter was &amp;quot;developed by the F.B.I.&amp;quot; and that Nash &amp;quot;had been in close contact with the Communist underground in Washington D.C.&amp;quot;; that he had been a close friend and associate of a convicted Canadian Communist; that Nash had &amp;quot;contributed to the support of the Canadian ''Tribune'', the official organ of the Communist Party in Canada&amp;quot;; that during the early 1940's some of the Canadian spy ring were using his home in Toronto as a meeting point and that some of them were living there; and that in the early 1940's Nash &amp;quot;was attending Communist meetings and had officially joined the Communist Party.&amp;quot; In an interview with Jerry N. Hess on May 15, 1969, Nash essentially confirmed the essence of these charges, yet Nash was never adversely affected by these issues.  Nash had worked in the [[Office of War Information]] beginning in 1942. &lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = January 29, 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 581&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Hess&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Jerry&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Oral History Interview with Philleo Nash&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Truman Presidential Museum and Library&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = May 15, 1969&lt;br /&gt;
 | url = http://www.trumanlibrary.org/oralhist/nash15.htm}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster058.pdf Vol. 58, pgs. 107 - 110] pdf.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster065.pdf Vol. 65, pgs. 155 - 156] pdf. August 1946. Notes contact between Nash and [[Louise Bransten]] in January 1944. Bransten was the mistress of San Francisco KGB [[Rezident]] [[Grigory Kheifets]] who made initial contact with [[J. Robert Oppenheimer]] in the home of Bransten on December 6, 1941.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Olga V. Osnatch]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #81 and Lee list #78;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Osnatch as his Case #81. At the time of McCarthy's original investigation, Osnatch was not yet a citizen of the United States. At the time of this speech, it was not clear if she had gotten her citizenship papers or not. McCarthy stated that, &amp;quot;She worked for the Russian Embassy in Turkey for 3 years. Then with the Russian Welfare Society, and so forth. One of the significant things here, of course, is that the Russians do not hire people in their embassies unless they are Communists.&amp;quot; So, what McCarthy was making clear in this speech was that only committed Communists are employed with Soviet agencies. Why an assumed Communist was allowed to work for the U.S. government was yet another mystery that the Truman administration would not explain.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9707&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Edward Posniak]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case Number 77;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Posniak was submitted to the Tyding's Committee by McCarthy as Case Number 77. An F.B.I. agent and an F.B.I. informant reported that Posniak was a member of the Communist Party. On November 15, 1950, the State Department contacted the Loyalty Review Board that Posniak &amp;quot;elected to resign rather than accept suspension pending investigation and adjudication of certain charges bearing loyalty.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Philip Raine]], U.S. State Department, Regional Specialist; McCarthy's Case #52 and Lee list #62;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On August 9, 1951, McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;He [Raine] is tied up, in the letter of the charges, very closely with Robert T. Miller, who has been identified under oath several times as a Russian espionage agent.&amp;quot; McCarthy was making a close association to Miller who he himself had been identified by former Soviet operative, [[Elizabeth Bentley]] in her 1945 FBI statement. Again, it was incumbent upon the State Department to investigate these serious allegations yet did nothing about them.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file, [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster023.pdf &amp;quot;Underground Espionage Organization (NKVD) in Agencies of the United States Government&amp;quot;], Vol. 23, pgs. 55 - 272 pdf, February 21, 1946. Includes alphabetical index at end.  In the later part of February 1946, the [[FBI]] transmitted to Secretary of State [[George Marshall]]l a 194 page Report based upon Soviet defector Elizabeth Bentley's deposition three months earlier entitled, &amp;quot;Underground Espionage Organization (NKVD) in Agencies of the United States Government.&amp;quot;  Preliminary investigations and other information in Bureau files gave support and credence to the providential value of Bentley's serious allegations. Bentley had been assigned a covername by the FBI, &amp;quot;Gregory,&amp;quot; and the highly secret investigation was referred to by investigators as &amp;quot;the Gregory Case.&amp;quot;  State Department internal investigators provided a list of questions to the FBI for the confidential informant to answer. The Statement requested information about Philip and Alice Raine.  Bentley, who worked out of New York, responded the names were entirely unfamiliar (pg. Vol. 96, pg. 87).  Philip and Alicia Raine subsequently were developed as leads by FBI investigators in the Washington field office while surveilling the many contacts of [[Mary Jane Keeney]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file, Hoover letter to Secretary of State George Marshall, [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster096.pdf Vol. 96, pgs. 85 -90] pdf, March 10, 1946.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster077.pdf Vol. 77, pgs. 133, 135, 201] pdf, September 1946.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Robert Ross, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #32 and Lee list #30;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Stella Gordon, Myron Victor Hunt, Franz Leopold Neumann, Sylvia Schimmel, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Ross as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Ross, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Ross remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Ross, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Neumann, Schimmel, and Tuchser, was able to carry on his activities despite concerns about his loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Sylvia Schimmel, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #50 and Lee list #60;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Stella Gordon, Myron Victor Hunt, Franz Leopold Neumann, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Schimmel as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Schimmel, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Schimmel remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Ross, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Neumann, and Tuchser, was able to carry on her activities despite concerns about her loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster061.pdf Vol. 61, pgs. 74 -79] pdf; Hottel to the Director, &amp;quot;Just Lunning,&amp;quot; July 18, 1947.   Discussion between Mary Jane Keeney and Sylvia Schimmel about Just Lunning, who would become Schimmel’s supervisor at the State Department. Sylvia Schimmel complained to Just Lunning she was not being given meaningful work at the State Dept. due to Schimmel's work for the Political Action Committee. Just Lunning had links to William T. Stone, [[V. Frank Coe]], Philip Dunaway, David Wahl, [[Donald Wheeler]], [[Allan Rosenberg]], Bowen Smith, and [[Edward Fitzgerald]]. Mary Jane Keeney had innumerable contacts in the [[CPUSA]] underground espionage apparatus which included [[Greg Silvermaster]], [[Helen Silvermaster]], [[Sergey Kurnakov]], [[Joseph Bernstein]], [[Frederick Field]], [[Maurice Halperin]], [[Haakon Chevalier]], [[Richard Bransten]], [[Laurence Todd]], [[William Ullman]], and [[Robert Miller]]. Much of the Silvermaster file is devoted to surveillance reports on them.  Mary Jane Keeney had served in the occupation of Berlin while at this time her husband, [[Philip Keeney]] was serving in Japan. Mary Jane Keeney was seeking to join him there. The FBI and State Department officials were moving to prevent this, and to have Philip recalled from his position with the occupation forces.  Mary Jane Keeney had turned to Sylvia Schimmel for assistance with her passport problems.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster065.pdf Vol. 65, pg. 51] pdf.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster096.pdf Vol. 96, pg. 78] pdf.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Frederick Schumann]], contracted by U.S. State Department as lecturer; Professor at Williams College; not on Lee list;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Schumann was a consultant for the State Department but not as an employee. His job was to lecture and train State Department employees who were subsequently to be placed in sensitive posts. In this capacity, out of 57 instructors, only three, Schumann, Edward Acheson (Dean's brother), and Communist [[Owen Lattimore]] were not government officials. According to the [[House Committee on Un-American Activities]], Schumann was a member of over 50 Communist front organizations. In 1932, Schuman supported the Communist Party ticket for President. Schumann wrote a pro-Soviet book titled, ''Soviet Politics at Home and Abroad'' that appeared just before the State Department enlisted him for his help in helping out orient the Foreign Service officers. While Schumann declined an invitation to the Tydings Committee in order to address charges against him, the Committee, as with other cases, showed no interest in determining why pro-Soviet lecturers were being utilized by the State Department and who was doing the hiring.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Herman, Arthur&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1999&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Free Press&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-684-83625-4}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = December 19, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 16747&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The Devin-Adair Company&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B0007DRBZ2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John S. Service]], U.S. State Department;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Accused by McCarthy of being a security and loyalty risk. Between the years of 1942 and 1945, Service submitted memos to the U.S. State Department supporting the Chinese Communists and Mao and advocated that the U.S. destroy [[Chiang Kai-shek]]. According to Senator McCarthy, &amp;quot;Service was named by the U.S. Ambassador to China as one of the men who was serving the cause of Communism in China. He asked the President to remove Service. He said that this man's actions are not good for the United States, they are good for Russia. While in China, Service, in secret recommendations to the State Department, urged that the Communists were the only hope for China. On June 6, 1945, Service was arrested by the F.B.I. for, &amp;quot;having transmitted, without authority, classified documents to the editors of ''Amerasia'', a Communist magazine&amp;quot;. Service had in effect turned over to a known Communist, not only State Department documents, but also secret military information. In December of 1951, Service was fired from the U.S. State Department, &amp;quot;as a result of an adverse finding as to his security qualifications by the Loyalty Review Board of the Civil Service Commission.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2 }}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Klehr, Harvey and Radosh, Ronald&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1996&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = The Amerasia Spy Case: Prelude to McCarthyism &lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The University of North Carolina Press &lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-80782-245-0}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Harlow Shapley]], U.S. State Department appointee to UNESCO, Chairman of the National Council of Arts, Sciences, and Professions;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Shapley joined at least six Communist front groups during the period of 1939-1941. By the time McCarthy had presented Shapley's case to the Tydings Committee, Shapley was a member of at least 21 Communist front organizations, eight of them listed on the Attorney General's list. McCarthy's documentation clearly showed that Shapley remained associated with at least ten of these groups even after they were exposed and officially cited as subversive by multiple legislative investigating committees. In March 1949, at the &amp;quot;Waldorf Peace Conference&amp;quot;, Shapley was Chairman of the National Council of Arts, Sciences, and Professions, of which even President Truman denounced as a &amp;quot;tool for Russia and a sounding board for Communist propaganda&amp;quot;. Even so, Secretary of State Dean Achesson appointed Shapley as a representative of the U.S. and the U.S. State Department at UNESCO.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
So, despite even Truman's concerns, the State Department appointed yet another clear security risk. As Buckley states in his book, &amp;quot;...a Rider to the Appropriations Act forbade the paying of funds to a person actively affiliated with any organization on the Attorney General's list. And Shapley, according to the evidence before the Tydings Committee, clearly was such a person.&amp;quot; As usual, the Tydings Committee ignored the facts and only made mention of Shapley's limited association with the State Department. Once again, McCarthy proved his case but was brushed aside by the Tydings Committee.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Herman, Arthur&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1999&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Free Press&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-684-83625-4}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = February 20, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 1973&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[William T. Stone]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #46 and Lee list #54;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Accused by McCarthy as a security/loyalty risk, Stone is McCarthy's Case Number 46. As early as 1946, the Bannerman Security Screening Board of the State Department concluded that Stone should be &amp;quot;terminated&amp;quot;, that Stone's &amp;quot;continued presence in the Department is embarrassing...that he be given an opportunity to resign&amp;quot; and failing to do so should result in his forced termination &amp;quot;under Civil Service Rule 3.&amp;quot; The State Department failed to act on this recommendation and Stone continued working in the State Department. Stone was on the Communist controlled editorial board of ''Amerasia'' magazine, recommended fellow ''Amerasia'' members to jobs with the U.S. State Department, informed Venona identified Communist and espionage operative, [[Greg Silvermaster|Nathan Gregory Silvermaster]] of an adverse security report concerning Silvermaster, was constantly under investigation as a security/loyalty risk, and was eventually given the opportunity to resign, which he did in 1952.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Frances M. Tuchser, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #6 and Lee list #6;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Stella Gordon, Myron Victor Hunt, and Franz Leopold Neumann, on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Tuchser as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Tuchser, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Tuchser remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Tuchser, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, and Neumann, was able to carry on her activities despite concerns about her loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John Carter Vincent]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #2 and Lee list #52;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
One of McCarthy's numbered cases given to the Tydings Committee. During his tenure as chief of the Division of Chinese Affairs, Vincent played an important role in hastening Mao's conquest of China. The McCarran Committee concluded that &amp;quot;over a period of years, John Carter Vincent was the principal fulcrum of [[Institute of Pacific Relations|IPR]] pressures and influence in the State Department.&amp;quot; [[Louis F. Budenz]] testified in the summer of 1951 that Vincent was a member of the Communist Party. In December 1952, the Civil Service Loyalty Review Board found reasonable doubt regarding Vincent's loyalty. In 1953, [[John Foster Dulles|Secretary Dulles]] requested Vincent's resignation.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Zablodowsky]], U.S. State Department &amp;amp; Director of the United Nations Publishing Division. McCarthy's Case #103;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Zablodowsky was McCarthy's Case Number 103. Zablodowsky worked in the State Department and later as Director of the United Nations Publishing Division. He admitted to being a member of an espionage ring in 1936 after [[Whittaker Chambers]], on October 23, 1952, gave testimony before the McCarran Committee regarding Zablodowsky's activities. &lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Attacks on McCarthy==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the most prominent attacks on Senator McCarthy was an episode of the TV documentary series ''See It Now'', hosted by [[Edward R. Murrow]], which was broadcast on March 9, 1954.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Murrow, Edward R. (May 31, 2005). [http://www.honors.umd.edu/HONR269J/archive/Murrow540309.html ''The Edward R. Murrow: The McCarthy Years'']. New Video Group.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; By the time Murrow produced his &amp;quot;See It Now&amp;quot; assault on Senator McCarthy in 1954, the senator had been under almost constant vicious attack for four years. According to McCarthy biographer Arthur Herman, Murrow and his staff had spent two months carefully editing film clips to portray McCarthy in the worst possible light. There were no clips showing McCarthy in a professional manner. Despite Murrow's claims, this &amp;quot;was not a report at all but instead a full-scale assault, employing exactly the same techniques of 'partial truth and innuendo' that critics accused McCarthy of using.&amp;quot;  The episode consisted largely of clips of McCarthy in the most unflattering context, including &amp;quot;belching and picking his nose&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In these clips, McCarthy accuses the [[Democratic Party]] of &amp;quot;twenty years of treason&amp;quot; because of the Democratic Party's concessions to the [[Soviet Union]] at the [[Yalta conference]] and [[Potsdam conference]], describes the [[American Civil Liberties Union]] as &amp;quot;listed as 'a front for, and doing the work of,' the Communist Party,&amp;quot; and berates General Zwicker for Zwicker's claim that he would protect any other general who promotes Communists within the military. Murrow also portrays a Pentagon coding room employee, [[Annie Lee Moss]] as an innocent victim of McCarthy even though it was later established that the FBI had warned the Army and the Civil Service Commission about her [[Communist Party]] connection.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Herman, pages 333-337&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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However, even some McCarthy critics were outraged by this one-sided presentation. Consistent McCarthy critic, John Cogley of ''[[Commonweal]]'', &amp;quot;sharply attacked Murrow and his producers for their distorted summary and selected use of video clips.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Herman, p. 253&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Cogley commented that a different selection of footage could have easily portrayed McCarthy in an extremely positive light and then further warned against the misuse of television in this fashion. He and another McCarthy critic from the ''Saturday Review'' agreed that it &amp;quot;was not a proud moment for television journalism&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To counter the negative publicity, McCarthy appeared on ''See It Now'' on April 6, 1954, and presented his case in order to clarify the misconceptions that Murrow had televised. McCarthy countered that his committee, &amp;quot;has forced out of government, and out of important defense plants, Communists engaged in the Soviet conspiracy.&amp;quot; McCarthy went on to say, &amp;quot;For example, 238 witnesses were examined [in] public session; 367 witnesses examined [in] executive session; 84 witnesses refused to testify as to Communist activities on the ground that, if they told the truth, they might go to jail; twenty-four witnesses with Communist backgrounds have been discharged from jobs [in] which they were handling secret, top-secret, confidential material, individuals who were exposed before our committee.&amp;quot; McCarthy also exposed Murrow's left-wing background and previous associations with Communist organizations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Murrow, Edward R. (May 31, 2005). [http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/murrowmccarthy2.html ''The Edward R. Murrow: The McCarthy Years'']. New Video Group.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Murrow report, together with the televised Army-McCarthy hearings of the same year, and four years of consistent anti-McCarthy media reporting were the major causes of a nationwide popular opinion backlash against McCarthy. However, well-known broadcaster Eric Sevareid said the Murrow assault &amp;quot;came very late in the day.... The youngsters read back, and they think only one person in broadcasting and the press stood up to McCarthy, and this has made a lot of people feel very upset, including me, because that program came awfully late.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sevareid, Eric (January 1978).  CBS.  Reprinted in Bates, Michael M. (November 15, 2005). [http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/bates/051115 ''Murrow, McCarthy, and the media'']. Renew America.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even Murrow discounted his role in the decline of Senator McCarthy's popularity. Murrow stated, &amp;quot;My God, I didn't do anything. (''Times'' columnist) Scotty Reston and lot of guys have been writing like this, saying the same things, for months, for years. We're bringing up the rear.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Nevertheless, despite the deceptive nature of the ''See It Now'' program and the late date in which it appears,  anti-McCarthy historians have credited and celebrated Murrow as playing a major role in damaging Senator McCarthy's campaign to remove security risks from the U.S. government.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Senate opposition to McCarthy==&lt;br /&gt;
While over the previous few years, Senator McCarthy had withstood countless biased and unsubstantiated attacks by [[Liberals]], [[Communists]], etc., who sought to prevent him from damaging their causes any further; the organized and co-ordinated effort between the two groups to remove McCarthy from his Chairmanship and officially condemn him began in March 1954.&lt;br /&gt;
===Senate opposition===&lt;br /&gt;
On March 9, 1954 a fellow conservative and anti-communist [[Republican]] Senator, [[Ralph E. Flanders]] of [[Vermont]], gave a speech criticizing what he felt was Senator McCarthy’s &amp;quot;misdirection of our efforts at fighting communism” and his role in “the loss of respect for us in the world at large.” Flanders felt the nation should pay more attention looking outwards at the “alarming world-wide advance of Communist power” that would leave the United States and Canada as “the last remnants of the free world.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple refereeces:&lt;br /&gt;
* Flanders, Ralph E. (March 9, 1954).  &amp;quot;Activities of Senator McCarthy&amp;amp;mdash;The world crisis&amp;quot;.  ''Proceedings and Debates of the 83rd Congress, Second Session&amp;amp;mdash;Congressional Record'' (Washington, D.C.:  Government Printing Office).&lt;br /&gt;
* Flanders, Ralph E. (1961).  ''Senator from Vermont'' (Boston: Little, Brown), pp. 255-257.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Eisenhower Administration]] cabinet officials told Flanders to “lay off,” while President Eisenhower sent Flanders a brief note of appreciation for his speech, but did not otherwise confer with him or explicitly support him.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a June 1, 1954 speech, Flanders emphasized how the Soviet Union was winning military successes in Asia without risking its own resources or men, and said this nation was witnessing &amp;quot;another example of economy of effort...in the conquest of this country for communism.&amp;quot; He added, &amp;quot;One of the characteristic elements of communist and fascist tyranny is at hand as citizens are set to spy upon each other.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 11, 1954 Flanders introduced a resolution charging McCarthy “with unbecoming conduct&amp;quot; and calling for his removal from his committee chairmanship. Upon the advice of Senators John Sherman Cooper and [[J. William Fulbright]] and legal assistance from the [[National Committee for an Effective Congress]], a liberal organization, he modified his resolution to “bring it in line with previous actions of censure.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After introducing his censure motion, Flanders had no active role in the ensuing Watkins Committee hearings. Flanders bore McCarthy no personal animosity and reported that McCarthy accepted his invitation to join him at lunch after the hearings had taken place.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Flanders, pages = 267-268&lt;br /&gt;
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===Watkins Committee===&lt;br /&gt;
Ultimately, McCarthy was accused of 46 different counts of allegedly improper conduct and another special committee was set up, under the chairmanship of Senator [[Arthur Watkins]], to study and evaluate the charges. This was to be the fifth investigation of Senator McCarthy in five years. This committee opened hearings on August 31, 1954. After two months of hearings and deliberations, the Watkins Committee recommended that McCarthy be censured on only two of the original 46 counts. The committee exonerated McCarthy on all substantive charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.xmission.com/~nccs/newsletter/nov05nl.html 44 of the 46 charges were dropped]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On November 8, 1954, a special session of the Senate convened to debate the two charges. The charges to be debated and voted on were: 1) That Senator McCarthy had &amp;quot;failed to cooperate&amp;quot; in 1952 with the Senate Subcommitee on Privileges and Elections that was looking into certain aspects of his private and political life in connection with a resolution for his expulsion from the Senate; and 2) That in conducting a senatorial inquiry, Senator McCarthy had &amp;quot;intemperately abused&amp;quot; General Ralph Zwicker.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Zwicker count was dropped by the full Senate on the grounds that McCarthy's conduct was arguably &amp;quot;induced&amp;quot; by Zwicker's own behavior. Many senators felt that the Army had shown contempt for committee chairman McCarthy by disregarding his letter of February 1, 1954 and honorably discharging Irving Peress the next day. So, for this reason, the Senate concluded that McCarthy's conduct toward Zwicker on February 18 was justified.&lt;br /&gt;
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Therefore, the Zwicker count was dropped at the last minute and was replaced with this substitute charge: 2) That Senator McCarthy, by characterizing the Watkins Committee as the &amp;quot;unwitting handmaiden&amp;quot; of the Communist Party and by describing the special Senate session as a &amp;quot;lynch party&amp;quot; and a &amp;quot;lynch bee,&amp;quot; had &amp;quot;acted contrary to senatorial ethics and tended to bring the Senate into dishonor and disrepute, to obstruct the constitutional processes of the Senate, and to impair its dignity.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/democrac/60.htm Censure of Senator Joseph McCarthy] (1954) The United States Department of State.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On December 2, 1954, even though more than a dozen senators told McCarthy that they did not want to vote against him but had to do so because of the enormous pressure being put on them by the [[Eisenhower Administration]] and by leaders of both political parties, the Senate voted to &amp;quot;condemn&amp;quot; Senator Joseph McCarthy on both counts by a vote of 67 to 22. The Democrats voted unanimously in favor of condemnation and the Republicans split evenly.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Resolution condemns McCarthy===&lt;br /&gt;
The resolution condemning Senator McCarthy has been criticized as a ridiculous attempt to silence the strongest voice in the Senate investigating security and loyalty risks in the U.S. government. When examined closely, the two counts used in condemning McCarthy were hopelessly flawed. &lt;br /&gt;
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In analyzing the first count, &amp;quot;failure to cooperate with the Subcommittee on Privileges and Elections&amp;quot;, the fact is that the subcommittee never subpoenaed McCarthy, but only &amp;quot;invited&amp;quot; him to testify. One senator and two staff members resigned from the subcommittee because of its dishonesty towards McCarthy. In its final report dated January 2, 1953, the subcommittee, stated that the matters under consideration &amp;quot;have become moot by reason of the 1952 election.&amp;quot; Up until this moment in U.S. history, no senator had ever been punished for something that had happened in a previous Congress or for declining an &amp;quot;invitation&amp;quot; to testify. Therefore, the first count was a complete fraud and nothing more than a trumped up charge in order to damage Senator McCarthy.&lt;br /&gt;
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The second count was even more flawed than the first. McCarthy was condemned for opinions he had expressed outside the Senate when he criticized the Watkins Committee and the special Senate session. In an editorial by David Lawrence in the June 7, 1957 issue of ''U.S. News &amp;amp; World Report'', other senators had accused McCarthy of lying under oath, accepting influence money, engaging in election fraud, making libelous and false statements, practicing blackmail, doing the work of the communists for them, and engaging in a questionable &amp;quot;personal relationship&amp;quot; with [[Roy Cohn]] and David Schine. However, these other Senators were not censured for acting &amp;quot;contrary to senatorial ethics&amp;quot; or for impairing the &amp;quot;dignity&amp;quot; of the Senate. Only Senator McCarthy would be held responsible for his words.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Drummey, James J. (May 11, 1987). [http://www.jbs.org/node/632 ''The Real McCarthy Record'']. The New American.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Final years==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CapitolStepsSenatorMcCarthy.jpg|thumb|right|250px|The flag-draped coffin containing the body of Senator McCarthy is carried up the steps of the U.S. Capitol for funeral services in the Senate chamber after an earlier service at St. Matthew's Cathedral, May 6, 1957. Photograph courtesy of [http://www.apl.org/history/mccarthy/capitol_steps.html ''The Post-Crescent'']]]&lt;br /&gt;
Senator McCarthy's power and clout to continue the search for Communists in positions of power in America was severely curtailed. After the Republicans lost control of the Senate in 1954, McCarthy, now a member of the minority Party, had to depend on public speeches to continue his campaign of warning the American people to the danger of Communism. He did this in a number of important addresses during those two and a half years. &lt;br /&gt;
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In January 1957, McCarthy and his wife, Jean, adopted a baby girl and named her, Tierney. Unfortunately, several months later, McCarthy died of acute [[hepatitis]], likely brought on by his lifelong struggle with alcoholism, in Bethesda Naval Hospital on May 2, 1957, at the age of 48.&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy was given a state funeral attended by 70 senators. McCarthy was the first senator in 17 years to have funeral services in the Senate chamber. Thousands of people viewed the body in Washington D.C. and it is estimated more than 30,000 people from Wisconsin filed through St. Mary's Church in the senator's hometown of Appleton, Wisconsin, where the clergy performed a Solemn Pontifical Requiem before more than 100 priests and 2,000 others. Three senators, George Malone, William E. Jenner, and Herman Welker, had flown from Washington D.C. to Appleton on the plane carrying McCarthy's casket. [[Robert Kennedy]] attended the funeral in Wisconsin. McCarthy was buried in St. Mary's Parish Cemetery in Appleton and was survived by his wife, Jean, and their adopted daughter, Tierney.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Retrospective views on McCarthy==&lt;br /&gt;
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* In her popular book, ''Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism'', [[Ann Coulter]] said of McCarthy: &lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;A half century later, when the only people who call themselves Communists are harmless cranks, it is difficult to grasp the importance of McCarthy's crusade. But there's a reason 'Communist' now sounds about as threatening as 'monarchist' -- and it's not because of intrepid ''New York Times'' editorials denouncing McCarthy and praising Harvard educated Soviet spies. McCarthy made it a disgrace to be a Communist. Domestic Communism could never recover.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Coulter, Ann (2004). ''Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism''. Three Rivers Press. pg. 33. ISBN 1-400-05032-4.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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When Ann Coulter asked [[Fox News]]’ [[Bill O'Reilly]] to identify a McCarthy-tormented innocent, O'Reilly responded with [[Dalton Trumbo]], one of [[House Un-American Activities Committee]]'s (HUAC) “Hollywood Ten”, not realizing [[HUAC]] investigated CPUSA infiltration in Hollywood and called “the Hollywood Ten” of writers, directors and producers to testify in 1947. McCarthy did not start his crusade against Communism until 1950.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In 1953-54, McCarthy had been investigating lax security in the top secret facility at [[Ft. Monmouth]], New Jersey.  He was attacked by [[liberals]] and [[Communists]] on the grounds that there were no security problems at Ft. Monmouth. Years later, in addressing the reason why the U.S. Army's top-secret operations at Fort Monmouth were quietly moved to Arizona, Senator [[Barry Goldwater]], in his 1979 book ''With no apologies: The personal and political memoirs of United States Senator Barry M. Goldwater'', Goldwater stated:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Carl Hayden, who in January 1955 became chairman of the powerful Appropriations Committee of the United States Senate, told me privately Monmouth had been moved because he and other members of the majority Democratic Party were convinced security at Monmouth had been penetrated. They didn't want to admit that McCarthy was right in his accusations. Their only alternative was to move the installation from New Jersey to a new location in Arizona.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Goldwater, Barry M. (1979). ''With no apologies: The personal and political memoirs of United States Senator Barry M. Goldwater''. Morrow. ISBN 0-688-03547-7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even though McCarthy's investigations proved that his suspicions were right, for many years afterwards and continue to this day, liberals have spread the falsehood that McCarthy had found nothing at Fort Monmouth.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Before the 1989 release of [[Carl Bernstein]]'s book, ''Loyalties: A Son's Memoir'', Albert Bernstein, Carl's father, expressed dismay at the revelations that the book would make regarding Communist infiltration of the U.S. government and other sectors of American society. Albert Bernstein stated:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;You're going to prove [Sen. Joseph] McCarthy was right, because all he was saying is that the system was loaded with Communists. And he was right. ... I'm worried about the kind of book you're going to write and about cleaning up McCarthy. The problem is that everybody said he was a liar; you're saying he was right. ... I agree that the Party was a force in the country.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Brennan, Phil (April 23, 2003). [http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/22/225916.shtml ''The Left’s Lies That Never Die'']. NewsMax.com. Retrieved on 2007-06-20.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Both Albert Bernstein and Sylvia Bernstein, Carl's mother, had both been Communists since the 1940s. Albert Bernstein was a Union activist, while Sylvia Bernstein was a secretary for the War Department in the 1930s and, during the [[Clinton Administration]], volunteered in the White House, answering letters that were addressed to [[Hillary Clinton]]. During the 1950s, Sylvia Bernstein invoked the Fifth Amendment to avoid revealing her party ties to Congress but worked openly in assisting convicted spies [[Julius Rosenberg]] and Ethel Rosenberg, who were executed in 1953 for espionage.&lt;br /&gt;
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It should be pointed out how many people followed McCarthy on his crusade, and that many pro-Americans still do.  The majority of the sources that discredited Senator McCarthy originated from a large assault by the liberal media that managed to sway the majority of Americans against him at that time.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quotes ==&lt;br /&gt;
*  &amp;quot;if liberals were merely stupid, the laws of probability would dictate that at least some of their decisions would serve America's interests.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=0hlSo3QC27oC&amp;amp;pg=PA72&amp;amp;dq=if+liberals+were+merely+stupid,+the+laws+of+probability+would+dictate+that+at+least+some+of+their+decisions+would+serve+America's+interests.&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=pyVjTdetBYH68AbDnbWKDA&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CCcQ6AEwAA A If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans - Page 72, Ann Coulter, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bibliography==&lt;br /&gt;
* Buckley, William F. ''McCarthy and His Enemies'' (1954), a major statement by a young conservative&lt;br /&gt;
* Crosby, S.J., Donald F. ''God, Church and Flag: Senator Joseph R. McCarthy and the Catholic Church, 1950-1957'' (1978). [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=104464047 online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
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* O'Brien, Michael. ''McCarthy and McCarthyism in Wisconsin.'' (1981)&lt;br /&gt;
* Oshinsky, David M. ''A Conspiracy So Immense: The World of Joe McCarthy'' (1983), standard biography [http://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-So-Immense-World-McCarthy/dp/019515424X/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964395&amp;amp;sr=8-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Ottanelli, Fraser M. '' The Communist Party of the United States: From the Depression to World War II'' 1991 [http://www.amazon.com/Communist-Party-United-States-Depression/dp/0813516137/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964802&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Rausch, Scott Alan.  &amp;quot;McCarthyism and Eisenhower's State Department, 1953-1961.&amp;quot; PhD dissertation U. of Washington 2000. 231 pp.   DAI 2000 61(6A): 2438-A. DA9976046  &lt;br /&gt;
* Schrecker, Ellen. &amp;quot;McCarthyism: Political Repression and the Fear of Communism.&amp;quot; ''Social Research'' 2004 71(4): 1041-1086. Issn: 0037-783x Fulltext: in Ebsco; summarizes her books on the subject&lt;br /&gt;
* Schrecker, Ellen. ''Many Are the Crimes: McCarthyism in America'' (1998) [http://www.amazon.com/Many-Are-Crimes-McCarthyism-America/dp/0316774707/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964838&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Schrecker, Ellen. ''The Age of McCarthyism: A Brief History with Documents.'' (2d ed. 2002). 308 pp.  [http://www.amazon.com/Age-Mccarthyism-History-Documents-Bedford/dp/0312294255/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964838&amp;amp;sr=1-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Tanenhaus, Sam. ''Whittaker Chambers: A Biography'' (1998) [http://www.amazon.com/Whittaker-Chambers-Biography-Library-Paperbacks/dp/0375751459/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964901&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Theoharis, Athan.  ''Chasing Spies: How the FBI Failed in Counterintelligence but Promoted the Politics of McCarthyism in the Cold War Years.'' (2002). 307 pp. [http://www.amazon.com/Chasing-Spies-Counter-Intelligence-Promoted-McCarthyism/dp/1566634202/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964932&amp;amp;sr=1-3 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Weinstein, Allen, and Vassiliev, Alexander. ''The Haunted Wood: Soviet Espionage in America: The Stalin Era'' (1999) [http://www.amazon.com/Haunted-Wood-Espionage-America-Paperbacks/dp/0375755365/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964983&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Media issues===&lt;br /&gt;
*  Doherty, Thomas. ''Cold War, Cool Media: Television, McCarthyism, and American Culture'' (2003) [http://www.amazon.com/Cold-War-Cool-Medium-McCarthyism/dp/0231129521/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205965016&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Dussere, Erik. &amp;quot;Subversion in the Swamp: Pogo and the Folk in the McCarthy Era.&amp;quot; ''Journal of American Culture''2003 26(1): 134-141. Issn: 1542-7331 Fulltext: in Ebsco &lt;br /&gt;
* Murphy, Brenda.  ''Congressional Theatre: Dramatizing McCarthyism on Stage, Film, and Television.'' (1999). 310 pp. [http://www.amazon.com/Congressional-Theatre-Dramatizing-McCarthyism-Television/dp/0521891663/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205965050&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search] &lt;br /&gt;
* Sbardellati, John and Shaw, Tony. &amp;quot;Booting a Tramp: Charlie Chaplin, the FBI, and the Construction of the Subversive Image in Red Scare America.&amp;quot; ''Pacific Historical Review'' 2003 72(4): 495-530. Issn: 0030-8684 [http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0030-8684(200311)72%3A4%3C495%3ABATCCT%3E2.0.CO%3B2-I in JSTOR]&lt;br /&gt;
* Strout, Lawrence N.  ''Covering McCarthyism: How the Christian Science Monitor Handled Joseph R. McCarthy, 1950-1954.'' 1999. 171 pp.  [http://www.questia.com/library/book/covering-mccarthyism-how-the-christian-science-monitor-handled-joseph-r-mccarthy-1950-1954-by-lawrence-n-strout.jsp online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Primary sources===&lt;br /&gt;
* Joe McCarthy. ''Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951'' U. S. Government Printing Office, 1953 [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=9034820 online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
* Joe McCarthy. ''McCarthyism: The Fight for America'' 1952 [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=97298720 online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
* Fried, ed. Albert. ''McCarthyism: The Great American Red Scare: a Documentary History'' 1997 [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=54810194 online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
* Schrecker, Ellen W. &amp;quot;Archival Sources for the Study of McCarthyism,&amp;quot; ''The Journal of American History,'' Vol. 75, No. 1 (Jun., 1988), pp.&amp;amp;nbsp;197–208 [http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0021-8723(198806)75%3A1%3C197%3AASFTSO%3E2.0.CO%3B2-T at JSTOR]&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anti-Communist]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Greenglass]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Amerasia]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[William Henry Taylor]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anatoli Gorsky]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Annie Lee Moss]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Morton Sobell]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Soviet spies in America (1921-1948)]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Larry McDonald]] Congressional anti-communist successor&lt;br /&gt;
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==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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#Bates, Michael M. (November 15, 2005). [http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/bates/051115 Murrow, McCarthy, and the media]. Renew America.&lt;br /&gt;
#Bayley, Edwin R. (1981). ''Joe McCarthy and the Press''. University of Wisconsin Press. ISBN 0-688-00148-3.&lt;br /&gt;
#Brennan, Phil (April 23, 2003). [http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/22/225916.shtml ''The Left’s Lies That Never Die'']. NewsMax.com.&lt;br /&gt;
#Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent (1954, 1995 Printing). ''McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning''. Regnery Publishing Inc. ISBN 0-89526-472-2.&lt;br /&gt;
#Cohn, Roy (1968). ''McCarthy''. The New American Library, Inc. ASIN B000KIR8FC.&lt;br /&gt;
#[http://tucnak.fsv.cuni.cz/~calda/Documents/1950s/Communist_54.html Communist Control Act of 1954] U.S. Statutes at Large, Public Law 637, Chp. 886, p.&amp;amp;nbsp;775-780. &lt;br /&gt;
#Coulter, Ann (2004). ''Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism''. Three Rivers Press. ISBN 1-400-05032-4.&lt;br /&gt;
#Drummey, James J. (May 11, 1987). [http://www.jbs.org/node/632 ''The Real McCarthy Record'']. The New American.&lt;br /&gt;
#Evans, Medford (1970). ''The Assassination of Joe McCarthy''. Western Islands. ISBN 0-88279-217-2.&lt;br /&gt;
#[http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/McCarthy_Transcripts.htm Executive Sessions of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee On Investigations, Transcripts] (2003). U.S. Government Printing Office.&lt;br /&gt;
#Fox, Jr., John F., FBI Historian, (Presented at the 2005 Symposium on Cryptologic History, Washington, D.C., 10/27/2005). [http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/history/foxpaper.htm ''In the Enemy’s House: Venona and the Maturation of American Counterintelligence'']. U.S. Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation.&lt;br /&gt;
#Goldwater, Barry M. (1979). ''With no apologies: The personal and political memoirs of United States Senator Barry M. Goldwater''. Morrow. ISBN 0-688-03547-7.&lt;br /&gt;
#Haynes, John Earl and Klehr, Harvey (2003). ''In Denial: Historians, Communism, &amp;amp; Espionage''. Encounter Books. ISBN 1-59403-088-X.&lt;br /&gt;
#Herman, Arthur (1999). ''Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator''. Free Press. ISBN 0-684-83625-4.&lt;br /&gt;
#Kazin, Michael (1998). ''The Populist Persuasion: An American History''. Cornell University Press. ISBN 0-801-48558-4.&lt;br /&gt;
#Lately, Thomas (1973). ''When Even Angels Wept''. Morrow. page 466. ISBN 0-688-00148-3.&lt;br /&gt;
#McCarthy, Joseph (1961). ''America's Retreat from Victory: The Story of George Catlett Marshall''. American Opinion (Reprint Series). ASIN B0007EKWVQ.&lt;br /&gt;
#McCarthy, Joseph (1953). ''Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951''. U. S. Government Printing Office. ISBN 0-87968-308-2.&lt;br /&gt;
#McCarthy, Joseph (1952). ''McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe''. The Devin-Adair Company. ASIN B0007DRBZ2.&lt;br /&gt;
#[http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/mccarthy/telegram.htm McCarthy to Truman 11 February 1950], telegram.&lt;br /&gt;
#Morgan, T. (Nov./Dec. 2003).  ''Judge Joe:  How the youngest judge in Wisconsin's history became the country's most notorious senator''.  Legal Affairs.&lt;br /&gt;
#[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/%22Operations_of_the_MGB_Residency_at_New_York%2C_1944-45%22 Operations of the MGB Residency at New York, 1944-45]&lt;br /&gt;
#Reeves, Thomas C. (1997). ''The life and Times of Joe McCarthy: A Biography''. Madison Books. ISBN 1-56833-101-0.&lt;br /&gt;
#Rusher, William A. (1968). ''Special Counsel''. Arlington House. ASIN B0006BUY2M.&lt;br /&gt;
#Utley, Freda (1951). ''The China Story''. Chicago, H. Regnery Co. ASIN B00005VL2B. &lt;br /&gt;
#Wicker, Tom (2006). ''Shooting Star: The Brief Arc of Joe McCarthy''. Harcourt, Inc. ISBN 0-15101-082-X&lt;br /&gt;
#Woods, Randall Bennett (1995). ''Fulbright: A Biography''. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0-521-48262-3.&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/victory.html America's Retreat From Victory], by Senator Joe McCarthy.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/bates/051115 ''Murrow, McCarthy, and the media'']. Renew America.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/McCarthy_Transcripts.htm Executive Sessions of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee On Investigations, Transcripts]. (2003). U.S. Government Printing Office.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://foia.fbi.gov/venona/venona.pdf FBI Venona file]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://education-research.org/CSR/Holdings/Silvermaster/summaries.htm Silvermaster File Summaries]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://boomp3.com/m/91d184a59074 Joseph McCarthy: Address To The Chicago Irish Fellowship Club] (listen online)&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/mccarthy.htm Joseph McCarthy FBI FOIA File], 4,296 pages.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.marquette.edu/library/collections/archives/Mss/JRM/mss-JRM.html Joseph McCarthy Papers, Marquette University Library]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&amp;amp;id=455 McCarthyism: Waging the Cold War in America], by M. Stanton Evans, ''Human Events'', 05/30/1997. Updated 05/08/2003.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.honors.umd.edu/HONR269J/archive/Murrow540309.html ''See It Now, Edward R. Murrow report on Senator McCarthy'']. (March 9, 1954). CBS-TV. Retrieved on 8/21/07.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.honors.umd.edu/HONR269J/archive/Murrow540406.html ''See It Now, Senator Joseph R. McCarthy's Reply to Edward R. Murrow'']. (April 6, 1954). CBS-TV. Retrieved on 8/21/07.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/resources/pdf/watt_interview_3.pdf Oral Interview with Ruth Young Watt], Chief Clerk, Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, 1948-1979. United States Senate Historical Office.  Retrieved from www.senate.gov 24 June 2007.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Joe McCarthy''' (Joseph Raymond McCarthy, November 14, 1908 – May 2, 1957) was a two-term [[Republican]] [[United States Senate|United States Senator]] from [[Wisconsin]].  He dominated the anti-[[communist]] movement in the United States, 1950–54, until his career receded after censure by the Senate.  '''&amp;quot;McCarthyism&amp;quot;''' is the aggressive exposure of Communist influences in America and the people who protect them.&lt;br /&gt;
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Beginning in 1950, McCarthy became the most visible public figure to object to [[Communist]] infiltration of the [[United States]] government. A 1954 Gallup poll found that Joe McCarthy was the fourth on its list of most admired men.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.knology.net/~bilrum/mccarth5.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  He is now considered an American hero by many, though in reality he engaged in demagoguery and false accusations to further his own career, in a similar way to [[Robert Mueller]]&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.conservativenewsandviews.com/2018/05/13/constitution/mccarthy-mueller-two-kind/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. &lt;br /&gt;
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He was noted for claiming that there were large numbers of [[Communist Party|Communists]] and [[Soviet Union|Soviet]] spies and sympathizers, engaged in a conspiracy to undermine the United States, inside the federal government. He was proven correct by government documents and inquiry, including decrypted [[Venona]] files. &lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy lost support in 1953 when he started attacking the U.S. Army and suggesting that Republican President [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] was protecting subversives.  Eisenhower signaled Republicans to stop his attacks on the Army.  Although McCarthy had strong support among Catholics, such as [[Joe Kennedy]], in 1954 the Senate censured him on charges of attacking fellow Senators; this caused his influence to collapse abruptly.&lt;br /&gt;
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The term &amp;quot;[[McCarthyism]]&amp;quot; was coined in 1950 in reference to McCarthy's aggressive attempts to ferret out suspects, occasionally in the absence of evidence.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Early life==&lt;br /&gt;
Joseph McCarthy was born to a poor Irish Catholic farm family in Appleton, Wisconsin.  A hyperactive, extroverted youth, he dropped out of school after eighth grade to start his own poultry business. After the chickens all died, he enrolled in the local public high school.  Thanks to enormous energy and a retentive mind, he finished his coursework in less than a year at age 20.  After two undergraduate years at [[Marquette University]], a leading [[Jesuit]] school in [[Milwaukee]], McCarthy entered Marquette Law School, acquiring the rudiments of the profession that he soon used to knit together a statewide network among Irish and German Catholics.   McCarthy was a practicing Catholic his entire life, but rarely referred to religion or ethnicity in his speeches.  He actively supported President [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]] in the Young Democrats, but did not join Irish organizations.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although defeated in his 1936 race for district attorney, McCarthy displayed remarkable campaign abilities and an astonishing memory for faces.  He had the energy and determination to meet every voter in person, exuding charm and a concern for the voter as an individual.  The same tactics paid off in 1939, when he was successful in a nonpartisan contest for a regional judgeship.  &lt;br /&gt;
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The youngest judge in state history, he worked long hours to clear up a large backlog. He administered justice promptly and with a combination of legal knowledge and good sense. He was still a Democrat, but that party was very weak statewide at the time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Military service===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:JosephMcCarthyMilitaryUniform.jpg|thumb|right|250px|Joseph McCarthy in the U.S. Marine Corps]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1942 McCarthy, volunteered for the [[Marines]] (as a judge he was draft exempt), becoming an intelligence officer in an aviation unit heavily engaged in combat in the South Pacific.  Although assigned a desk job McCarthy flew numerous combat missions as a tail gunner—he exaggerated the number to qualify for a Distinguished Flying Cross.  &lt;br /&gt;
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During his 30 months of military service, McCarthy's record was unanimously praised by his commanding officers and Admiral [[Chester Nimitz]], commander in chief of the Pacific Fleet. Admiral Nimitz issued the following citation regarding the service of Captain McCarthy: &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|For meritorious and efficient performance of duty as an observer and rear gunner of a dive bomber attached to a Marine scout bombing squadron operating in the [[Solomon Islands]] area from September 1 to December 31, 1943. He participated in a large number of combat missions, and in addition to his regular duties, acted as aerial photographer. He obtained excellent photographs of enemy gun positions, despite intense anti-aircraft fire, thereby gaining valuable information which contributed materially to the success of subsequent strikes in the area. Although suffering from a severe leg injury, he refused to be hospitalized and continued to carry out his duties as Intelligence Officer in a highly efficient manner. His courageous devotion to duty was in keeping with the highest traditions of the naval service.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Cohn, Roy (1968). ''McCarthy''. The New American Library, Inc., pgs. 273-274. ASIN B000KIR8FC&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Elected to Senate, 1946==&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy had his name entered in the Republican primary for U.S. Senate in 1944, opposing a well-entrenched incumbent Republican, Alexander Wiley.  The absentee war hero ran a strong second, making a name for himself statewide and making himself available for the 1946 Senate contest. &lt;br /&gt;
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Why McCarthy suddenly changed parties was never explained, but prospects for ambitious Wisconsin politicians were dim inside the poorly organized Democratic party, for most [[New Deal]]ers supported the state’s [[Progressive party#LaFollete creates a third party in 1924|Progressive party]].  During the war, however, that party collapsed, torn apart between its [[New Deal]] domestic liberalism, and its intensely isolationist opposition to Roosevelt’s foreign policy.   Increasingly out of touch with Wisconsin, its leader [[Robert LaFollette Jr.]] looked to his family’s past glories and made the blunder of trying for reelection to the Senate in 1946 as a Republican.  &lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Tail Gunner Joe,&amp;quot; as his posters called him, endlessly crisscrossed Wisconsin while LaFollette remained in Washington, offered an alternative in the Republican primary to old guard Republicans who had opposed the Lafollettes for a half century.  McCarthy brilliantly captured the frustrations citizens felt about massive strikes, unstable economy, price controls, severe shortages of housing and meat, and the growing threat of from the far left in the [[Congress of Industrial Organizations|CIO]].  He nipped LaFollette in the primary. The slogan “Had Enough?—Vote Republican” gave the Republicans a landslide all across the North, electing a new junior senator from Wisconsin.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Communist Issue==&lt;br /&gt;
In Washington, McCarthy was a mainstream conservative in domestic policy, and, like many veterans, was an internationalist in foreign affairs, supporting the [[Marshall Plan]] and [[NATO]].  His speeches rarely mentioned domestic Communism or flaming issues like the [[Alger Hiss]] espionage case, but that suddenly changed in early 1950 when his vivid [[anti-Communist]] rhetoric drew national attention. &amp;quot;The issue between the Republicans and Democrats is clearly drawn. It has been deliberately drawn by those who have been in charge of twenty years of treason.”  Alleging there were many card-carrying Communists in U. S. President [[Harry S. Truman]]’s State Department, McCarthy forced a Senate investigation led by Millard Tydings, Democrat of [[Maryland]]. McCarthy named numerous suspect diplomats but failed to convince the three Democrats on the panel; they  concluded his allegations were “a fraud and a hoax,” while the two Republicans dissented. McCarthy retaliated by campaigning against Tydings, who was defeated for reelection in November 1950.  What the senator himself called McCarthyism was a factor in key races across the country; all his candidates won and his stock soared. A few weeks later American forces were crushed by the [[History of China#Communist Party|Chinese]] in [[Korean War|Korea]], and in spring 1951 Truman tried to shift the blame by firing General [[Douglas MacArthur]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Support from Catholics and Kennedys==&lt;br /&gt;
The great majority of Catholics were anti-Communist, but they were also loyal Democrats, so to enlarge his base McCarthy, a Republican, needed an alliance with anti-Communist Catholics.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Martin E. Marty, ''Modern American Religion: 1941-1960'' (1996) 3:358&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Catholic bishops and the Catholic press was &amp;quot;among McCarthy's most fervid supporters.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Charles R. Morris, ''American Catholic'' (1997) p. 248-50, quote on p. 248; James Waldron Arnold, ''Objectivity in Selected Catholic Diocesan Newspapers'' (1954) p. 49.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; A major connection was with the powerful Kennedy family, which had very high visibility among all Catholics in the Northeast.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kevin Kenny, ''The American Irish'' (2000), 242-43.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Well before he became famous McCarthy became closely associated with [[Joseph P. Kennedy, Sr.]]. He was a frequent guest at the Kennedy compound in Hyannis Port and at one point dated Joe's daughter Patricia. After McCarthy became nationally prominent, Kennedy was a vocal supporter and helped build McCarthy's popularity among Catholics. Kennedy contributed cash and encouraged his friends to give money. Some historians have argued that in the Senate race of 1952, Joe Kennedy and McCarthy made a deal that McCarthy would not make campaign speeches for the Republican ticket in [[Massachusetts]], and in return, Congressman and future U.S. President [[John F. Kennedy]] would not give anti-McCarthy speeches. In 1953 McCarthy hired [[Robert Kennedy]] as a senior staff member. When the Senate voted to censure McCarthy in 1954, Senator Kennedy was in the hospital and never indicated then or later how he would vote; he told associates he could not vote against McCarthy because of the family ties.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Michael O'Brien, ''John F. Kennedy: A Biography'' (2005); Crosby, ''God, Church, and Flag''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Political dominance==&lt;br /&gt;
In 1950, McCarthy discussed his upcoming 1952 campaign with three fellow Catholics (Father Edmund A. Walsh and Charles H. Kraus of [[Georgetown University]] and Washington attorney Wiliam A. Roberts).   Kraus had recommended Father Walsh's recent books dealing with Communism to McCarthy, and was hoping to interest McCarthy in the problems of Communism in the world.  McCarthy's reputation among the voters was not good at that time, due to various ethical and tax violation problems, and he needed an issue that would help improve his chances of re-election.  He latched enthusiastically onto the idea of attacking Communists in the government.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Richard H. Rovere, Senator Joe McCarthy, (Harcourt, Brace, Jovanovich), 1959.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Subsequently, McCarthy called Willard Edwards of the ''[[Chicago Tribune]]'' asking for assistance with a speech on Communism.  Edwards sent some materials, including a copy of a letter written on July 26, 1946, by [[James F. Byrnes]], Secretary of State under Truman.  This letter was the central support for McCarthy's subsequent claims to have a list of Communists in the government.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;Pursuant to Executive Order, approximately 4,000 employees have been transferred... Of those 4,000 employees, the case histories of approximately 3,000 have been subjected to a preliminary examination, as a result of which a recommendation against permanent employment has been made in 284 cases by the screening committee... Of the 79 actually separated from the service, 26 were aliens and therefore under &amp;quot;political disability&amp;quot; with respect to employment in the peacetime operations of the Department.  I assume that factor alone could be considered the principal basis for their separation.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This document was repeatedly cited by McCarthy as the basis for his accusations; unfortunately, there was no list at that time.&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy now became one of the dominant leaders in American politics, with strong support among both Republicans and Catholic Democrats, as he alleged that Truman’s top people had betrayed America.  He singled out Secretary of State [[Dean Acheson]] and Secretary of Defense [[George Marshall]].  Liberals were aghast; Truman had picked General Marshall to head the State and Defense departments precisely because he thought the elderly statesman would always be above criticism, no matter that China turned from a staunch ally to a bitter enemy on his watch.  McCarthy’s blistering attacks on Marshall as “part of a conspiracy so immense, an infamy so black, as to dwarf any in the history of man” fueled the belief he was a wild-man, a pathological liar who overstepped the bounds of political discourse. &lt;br /&gt;
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With [[Dwight D. Eisenhower]] crusading against “Korea, Communism and Corruption” in 1952, Republican victory was assured.  As a senior member of  the majority party McCarthy for the first time became a committee chairman, with control of staffing and agenda. He used his Government Operations Committee to open highly publicized hearings in 1953-54 alleging disloyalty in the State Department, the United States [[Central Intelligence Agency]] (CIA), the U.S. Information Agency, and finally the Army.  His furious attacks on the Army led to the televised “Army-McCarthy” hearings in spring 1954, which exposed his bullying tactics to a national audience.  As McCarthy’s poll rating plunged, his enemies finally pulled together to introduce a censure resolution focused on charging McCarthy with contempt for the federal government, and especially for his fellow senators.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Backlash==&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy’s charges that over-educated liberals tolerated Communism at home and abroad had stung the liberals.  He alleged that they had corruptly sold out the national interest to protect their upper class privileges, and were so idealistic about world affairs that they radically underestimated the threat posed by Soviet dictator [[Joseph Stalin|Stalin]], his spies, and the worldwide Communist movement.  Instead of refuting the allegations, Liberals tried one of two approaches.  Some became intensely anti-Communist and claimed they were more effective than McCarthy and the Republicans in eliminating Communism in the unions and Democratic party, and in containing the Stalinist menace in Europe.  The other approach was to counterattack, to charge that “McCarthyism” never found a single spy but hurt innocent people in hunting for nonexistent witches; thus it represented an evil betrayal of American values.  In an appeal to upscale conservatives and liberal intellectuals, critics ignored the Communist infiltration of labor unions and liberal causes and focused on stereotyping anticommunists as ill-mannered ignorant troglodytes, oblivious to American traditions of free speech and free association.  McCarthy’s exaggerations and false charges encouraged opponents to stress the second approach, but it escalated the controversy to a pitch of hatreds and fears unprecedented since the days of [[Reconstruction]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Loss of influence==&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy’s superb sense of timing and his media instincts kept his partisan attacks on the front page every day; his willingness to do battle in the hustings with Democratic opponents across the country strengthened his base in the Republican party. His religion and ethnicity, refreshed with highly visible friendships with leading Irish Catholics, especially the Kennedy family, bolstered his standing among Democrats.   According to Gallup, McCarthy’s popularity crested in January 1954, when he was endorsed by all voters 50-29 (with 21 having no opinion).  His core support came from Republicans and Catholics who had not attended college. &lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy, however, failed to create any sort of grass roots organization.  He had no organizational skills; he did not effectively use his talented staffers (such as [[Robert Kennedy]]).  He was a loner who lurched from issue to issue, misled by the enormous media publicity into believing that a one-man crusade was possible in an increasingly well-educated complex society honeycombed with local, regional and national organizations.  By operating within the Republican party apparatus he lost the opportunity to create an independent grass roots political crusade in the style of [[Theodore Roosevelt|Teddy Roosevelt]], [[Huey Long]], or [[Ross Perot]]. He never launched his own magazine or radio show or formed alliances with publishers who agreed with him.  &lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy’s strained relations with Senate colleagues created a trapdoor. It was sprung after many Republicans realized that he had shifted the attack away from the Democrats.  What use was his slogan “20 Years of Treason” once Eisenhower was in office? McCarthy’s answer was “21 Years of Treason!”  Eisenhower’s supporters could no longer tolerate such a loose cannon, and as McCarthy unwisely shifted his attacks to Eisenhower’s beloved Army, his cause was doomed.  While many Americans distrusted [[Ivy League]], striped pants diplomats, soldiers were held in high regard; McCarthy’s charges of subversion were flimsy (one Communist dentist had been automatically promoted); he sabotaged his own reputation by finagling favors for an aide who had been drafted.  The televised hearings proved fatal to an ill-prepared bully. After the Democrats regained control of Congress in the 1954 elections, the censure motion carried, 67-22.  McCarthy’s appeal, so widespread yet superficial, evaporated overnight and the Senator faded into the shadows.&lt;br /&gt;
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==The term &amp;quot;McCarthyism&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy is permanently associated with the use of the word &amp;quot;McCarthyism&amp;quot; (a word which he did not coin, but of which he  did make use according to a sense more aligned with his actual philosophy) to mean an aggressive attack on Communists who had infiltrated America and on the liberals who protected them—an attack, however, without regard for due process.  Although the left was unable to make heroes of the people who supported and sometimes were controlled by Stalin, they did make heroes of opponents of McCarthy, painting him as the internal menace to American values that was far worse than Communist subversion. Schrecker (1998) sees McCarthyism as anti-Communist political repression of the early Cold War, and explores its mechanisms through, and what she considers the exaggerated public fears on which it depended. During the 1940s-1950s, McCarthyism took on a variety of forms with an array of agendas, interested parties, and modes of operating. Despite its widespread and popular character, it started with the federal government and was driven by a network of dedicated anti-Communist crusaders such as [[J. Edgar Hoover]], director of the United States [[Federal Bureau of Investigation]] (FBI).  McCarthyism's repression both responded to and helped create widespread fears of a significant threat to national security.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Margaret Chase Smith]], Republican senator from [[Maine]], gained a national reputation as one of the earliest critics McCarthyism with a Senate speech on June 1, 1950, called &amp;quot;the Declaration of Conscience.&amp;quot; It was an attempt by Smith to address the excesses of McCarthyism, and was widely hailed as a call to reason by McCarthy's opponents. Smith gave a critique of the American political process and political institutions in the responses to dissent on the left and the right. Smith, like other McCarthy critics, sought to bring a level of civility to political protest and dissent. She and many others who objected to the tactics of McCarthy actually believed in the underlying tenets of his anti-Communist crusade. Their responses to his excesses reflected a desire to narrow the scope of acceptable political dissent.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Gregory Peter Gallant, &amp;quot;Margaret Chase Smith, McCarthyism and the Drive for Political Purification.&amp;quot;  PhD dissertation U. of Maine 1992. 302 pp.  DAI 1992 53(5): 1642-A. DA9227981&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Impact on government==&lt;br /&gt;
Rausch (2000) argues McCarthy's campaign {{cquote|had a lasting impact on the conduct of U.S. foreign relations, particularly among professional diplomatic institutions like the State Department and its [[United States Foreign Service|Foreign Service]] personnel, and McCarthyism did not disappear with the senator's censure in 1954. The 'ism' in a broad sense was a set of ideas not only about internal subversion but also about the outside world, including a simplistic, isolationist anti-communism and a deep suspicion about social reform movements abroad. It stood in open opposition to a more complex, even accommodating, view of communism.  Instead of ending the hunt for subversives begun under Truman, Eisenhower made the search systematic, universal, and more broadly defined. McCarthyist Scott McLeod took over security and personnel functions of the State Department and became one of the most famous and despised men in the executive branch. McLeod brought McCarthyist methods and assumptions to bear in ridding the department of what he defined as security risks. Oral history sources provide key evidence for the destructive atmosphere within the department in these years, and they shed valuable light on McLeod's impact on the foreign affairs bureaucracy.  In the short term, the Foreign Service declined in morale, prestige, and influence. By 1954, professionally trained diplomacy, with nuanced, internationalist views lost ground to more simplistic, strictly anticommunist views. During Eisenhower's second term, the Foreign Service and the more moderate approach experienced a resurgence but still faced opposition from hard-liners who survived the McCarthy years.   The Latin American branch of the department embodied the changes in professional diplomacy towards one region of the world. Within the division were the institutionalized tensions of the Eisenhower administration, between career diplomats and political appointees, conservative and moderate anti-communists, and trained diplomats and other specialists. The U.S. embassy in Cuba showed this internal conflict in a microcosm, as the administration's response to Latin American revolution evolved after 1954. McCarthyism accompanied Eisenhower into office, and its effects continued into his last foreign policy crisis and beyond.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rausch, Scott Alan (2000).  [http://digital.lib.washington.edu/researchworks/handle/1773/10401 Abstract of ''McCarthyism and Eisenhower's State Department, 1953-1961''].  Thesis (Ph. D.)  (Seattle, WA:  University of Washington).  Abstract retrieved from University of Washington's ResearchWorks archive on April 2, 2015.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In [[California]] McCarthyism began before the Senator was famous. In 1946 in the [[Los Angeles]] schools two teachers from Canoga Park High School were called before the Tenney Senate Investigating Committee on charges of communistic teaching. The two teachers were exonerated of all charges, but a campaign to rid the LA district of dissident teachers was effectively launched. The target of the campaign was a group of teachers who belonged to the Los Angeles Federation of Teachers (LAFT), formerly known as Union Local 430 and chartered under the American Federation of Teachers, until 1948, when the AFT revoked the charter. By 1954, Los Angeles teachers were required to take five loyalty oaths, although not one teacher was ever charged with or convicted of subversion. In 1953, the Los Angeles City School Board announced that 304 teachers were to be investigated because of alleged Communist affiliations. The Dilworth Oath, made law in 1953, required teachers to answer questions posed to them by the Investigating Committees. Teachers who refused to answer the Committee questions by claiming their [[Fifth Amendment]] rights could then be fired by the Board for insubordination.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ellen Chase Verdries, &amp;quot;Teaching with the Enemy: An Archival and Narrative Analysis of McCarthyism in the Public Schools.&amp;quot;  PhD dissertation Claremont Grad. School 1996. 286 pp.  DAI 1997 57(9): 3853-A. DA9703815&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Media and popular culture==&lt;br /&gt;
Historians have debated the degree to which McCarthyism permeated the American mood and popular culture. Anti-Communist liberals at the time said it played to isolationism (especially strong in McCarthy's Wisconsin) by diverting attention away from the real threat, Stalin's Soviet Union as an external power.  The Left said that they had a First Amendment right to their beliefs and that McCarthyism had a chilling effect.  Dussere (2003) shows that comic strip artist Walt Kelly in &amp;quot;Pogo&amp;quot; parodied McCarthyism and promoted leftist politics as old-fashioned American common sense, representing a time when concerns about art and politics with respect to popular culture were in the forefront.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Hoover's FBI targeted retired film comedian [[Charlie Chaplin]] because of his status as a cultural icon and as part of its broader investigation of Hollywood. Some of Chaplin's films were considered &amp;quot;Communist propaganda,&amp;quot; but because Chaplin was a British citizen and was not a member of the Communist Party, he was not among those investigated by the [[House Un-American Activities Committee]] in 1947. Nevertheless, he was vulnerable to protests by the American Legion and other patriotic groups because of both his sexual and political unorthodoxy. Although countersubversives succeeded in driving Chaplin out of the U.S., they failed to build a consensus that Chaplin was a threat to the nation. Chaplin's story testifies to both the power of the countersubversive campaign at mid-century and to some of its limitations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sbardellati and Shaw (2003)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Strout (1999) looks at [[Christian Science Monitor|''The Christian Science Monitor'']] during the McCarthy era (1950-1954); it was a highly influential newspaper at home and abroad. Strout asks: (1) Was the ''Monitor'' a consistent critic of McCarthy? (2) How did the coverage compare to other elite and popular press newspapers? (3) How did the pressures associated with McCarthyism effect individuals at the ''Monitor'' and its news product? An extensive review of editorials and news articles suggests that it was thorough and fair in reporting, yet outspoken and responsible in editorial criticism. [[Mary Baker Eddy]]'s original 1907 statement that, &amp;quot;The purpose of the ''Monitor'' is to injure no man, but to bless all mankind,&amp;quot; was referred to repeatedly in interoffice correspondence during the McCarthy era. The ''Monitor'' did not attack McCarthy personally as other papers did; rather, its criticism centered on the actions of the senator and the negative effects they were having at home and abroad. The ''Monitor'' served as a voice of moderation, yet at the same time, remained a persistent critic of McCarthy's tactics.  Individuals were affected by the pressures of McCarthyism.  For instance, veteran Washington correspondent Richard L. Strout was suspended from covering McCarthy for eight to 12 months after being mentioned in McCarthy's book, ''McCarthyism: The Fight for America.''&lt;br /&gt;
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==''I have in my hand...''==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:FBI-Chart-Web.png|right|450px|thumb|FBI Master Chart of distribution in 1945-46 of investigative reports to the White House, Attorney General, and employing agencies of Communist agents in the Federal government.]]&lt;br /&gt;
It was McCarthy's charges of Communist, security, and loyalty risk infiltration of the State Department that shot him into prominence in 1950. At a Lincoln Day speech, on February 9, 1950, before the Republican Women's Club of Wheeling, [[West Virginia]], at the Colonnade Room of Wheeling's McClure Hotel, he stated: &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|I have in my hand 57 cases of individuals who would appear to be either card-carrying members or certainly loyal to the Communist Party, but who nevertheless are still helping to shape our foreign policy.''&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Senator Joseph McCarthy, [http://faculty.tnstate.edu/tcorse/h2020/senator_joseph_mccarthy.htm Speech at Wheeling, West Virginia], 1950, Congressional Record of the Senate, 81st Congress 2nd Session, February 20, 1950 (Tennessee State University). Cf. ''Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951, reprinted from the Congressional Record'' (Washington, DC: United States Government Printing Office, 1951); &amp;quot;Senator Joe McCarthy's Visit to Valley Area,&amp;quot; ''Wheeling Intelligencer'', February 11, 1950; &amp;quot;57 Reds Help Shaping U.S. Policy: McCarthy,&amp;quot; ''Denver Post'', February 11, 1950; ''Salt Lake Tribune'', February 11, 1950; ''Salt Lake Telegram'', February 11, 1950; [http://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/mccarthy-telegram/images/telegram-page-1.gif McCarthy to President Truman] (telegram), February 11, 1950; &amp;quot;McCarthy Blasts State Department,&amp;quot; ''Nevada State Journal'', February 12, 1950.&lt;br /&gt;
*McCarthy, Joseph (February 9, 1950) &amp;quot;[http://us.history.wisc.edu/hist102/pdocs/mccarthy_wheeling.pdf Speech at Wheeling], West Virginia, 9 February 1950,&amp;quot; in Michael P. Johnson, ed., Reading the American Past, Vol. II (Boston: Bedford Books, 1998), pgs. 191-195.&lt;br /&gt;
*Vernon, Wes (January 13, 2006). [http://www.aim.org/aim_report/A4297_0_4_0_C/ ''AIM Report: Looney Clooney Smears Senator McCarthy'']. Accuracy In Media&lt;br /&gt;
*Irvine, Reed and Kincaid, Cliff (September 13, 2000). [http://www.aim.org/media_monitor/A2958_0_2_0_C/ ''Joe McCarthy, a Victimizer or Victim'']. Accuracy In Media&lt;br /&gt;
*Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent (1954, 1995 Printing). ''McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning''. Regnery Publishing Inc., pgs. 41-61. ISBN 0-89526-472-2.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy compiled a list of 57 security risks and publicly named [[John S. Service]], Gustavo Duran, [[Mary Jane Keeney]], Harlow Shapley, and [[H. Julian Wadleigh]] &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander Vassiliev, Notes on A. Gorsky’s Report to Savchenko S.R., 23 December 1949.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; as being on the list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Reeves, Thomas C. (1997). ''The life and Times of Joe McCarthy: A Biography''. Madison Books. pgs. 222-238. ISBN 1-56833-101-0.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  These names came from the &amp;quot;Lee List&amp;quot; of unresolved State Department security cases compiled by the earlier investigators for the House Appropriation Committee in 1947.  Robert E. Lee was the committee’s lead investigator and supervised preparation of the list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, State Department Employee Loyalty Investigations (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1950).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In a six-hour speech on the Senate floor on February 20, 1950 in which McCarthy was constantly interrupted by hostile senators; four of whom — Scott Lucas (61 times), Brien McMahon (27 times), Garrett Withers (22 times), and Herbert Lehman (13 times) — interrupted him a total of 123 times, McCarthy raised the issue of some eighty individuals who had worked in the [[State Department]], or wartime agencies such as the [[Office of War Information]] (OWI) and the [[Board of Economic Warfare]] (BEW).&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy sought to avoid naming names publicly when possible, using numbered cases instead of names in public session. He preferred to name his suspects only in executive session, in order to protect those who might have been erroneously identified by the FBI, State Department Security, Army counterintelligence, etc. &amp;quot;[I]t would be improper to make the names public until the appropriate Senate committee can meet in executive session and get them,&amp;quot; explained McCarthy. &amp;quot;If we should label one man a Communist when he is not a Communist I think it would be too bad.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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But when McCarthy began reading his numbered cases to the Senate, the Democrat Majority Leader, [[Illinois]] Senator Scott Lucas, interrupted, &amp;quot;I want him to name those Communists.&amp;quot; In response to McCarthy's desire not to name names publicly in order to protect the innocent, Lucas bizarrely referred to the fact that statements in Congress are privileged against defamation suits, saying, &amp;quot;if those people are not Communists the senator will be protected.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;M. Stanton Evans, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=xCaDcYsr0sgC Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies]'' (Crown Forum 2007) ISBN 1400081068, p. 202.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (This was hardly germane: McCarthy's expressed concern was not about protecting ''himself'', but protecting ''suspects who might be innocent''.) McCarthy responded:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|The Senator from Illinois demanded, loudly, that I furnish all the names. I told him at that time that so far as I was concerned, I thought that would be improper; that I did not have all the information about these individuals ... I have enough to convince me that either they are members of the Communist Party or they have given great aid to the Communists: I may be wrong. That is why I said that unless the Senate demanded that I do so, I would not submit this publicly, but I would submit it to any committee — and would let the committee go over these in executive session. It is possible that some of these persons will get a clean bill of health...}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Democratic Senator William Benton of [[Connecticut]] introduced a bill to eject McCarthy from the Senate. His first charge was that at Wheeling, McCarthy had said that he had a list of 205 names, rather than 57 names. The Senate (then under Democrat control) sent staff investigators to Wheeling to try to substantiate Benton's charges. The investigation found no evidence to support Benton's charge. According to one investigator:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The newly unearthed evidence demolished Senator Benton’s charges in all their material respects and thoroughly proved Senator McCarthy’s account of the facts to be truthful.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Statement by Daniel Buckley, December 13, 1951, McCarthy papers, cited in M. Stanton Evans, ''[http://books.google.com/books?id=xCaDcYsr0sgC Blacklisted by History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies]'' (Crown Forum 2007) ISBN 1400081068, pp. 438-439.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
Senate Democrats quietly buried the 44-page staff memo summarizing these findings, but the charge that McCarthy had said “205” was likewise dropped. Thus the ''Congressional Record'' to this day records that McCarthy said &amp;quot;57,&amp;quot; not &amp;quot;205.&amp;quot; Nevertheless, many on the left continue to promote Benton's discredited claim as gospel.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Washington Post (February 12, 1950).''Washington Post, February 12, 1950; McCarthy's speech in Wheeling &amp;amp; letter to President Truman are cited in the article titled &amp;quot;Security Risks&amp;quot; to the lower left of the photo''. Washington Post [http://www.conservapedia.com/images/thumb/4/49/Washpost1950.jpg/250px-Washpost1950.jpg]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
Benton made this allegation only about McCarthy's speech in Wheeling, West Virginia and not in the other cities where he made the speech. The 205 number actually came in another part of his speech; on February 20, 1950, in a speech made on the floor of the Senate, McCarthy officially clarified the issue:&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|I have before me a letter which was reproduced in the ''Congressional Record'' on August 1, 1946, at page A4892. It is a letter from James F. Byrnes, former Secretary of State. It deals with the screening of the first group, of about 3,000. There were a great number of subsequent screenings. This was the beginning.&lt;br /&gt;
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The letter deals with the first group of 3,000 which was screened. The President—and I think wisely so—set up a board to screen the employees who were coming to the State Department from the various war agencies of the War Department. There were thousands of unusual characters in some of those war agencies. Former Secretary Byrnes in his letter, which is reproduced in the ''Congressional Record'', says this: &lt;br /&gt;
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''Pursuant to Executive order, approximately 4,000 employees have been transferred to the Department of State from various war agencies such as the [[Office of Strategic Services|OSS [Office of Strategic Services]]], [[Foreign Economic Administration|FEA [Foreign Economic Administration]]], [[Office of War Information|OWI [Office of War Information]]], OIAA [Office of Inter-American Affairs], and so forth. Of these 4,000 employees, the case histories of approximately 3,000 have been subjected to a preliminary examination, as a result of which a recommendation against permanent employment has been made in 285 cases by the screening committee to which you refer in your letter.''&lt;br /&gt;
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In other words, former Secretary Byrnes said that 285 of those men are unsafe risks. He goes on to say that of this number only 79 have been removed. Of the 57 I mentioned some are from this group of 205, and some are from subsequent groups which have been screened but not discharged. &lt;br /&gt;
I might say in that connection that the investigative agency of the State Department has done an excellent job. The files show that they went into great detail in labeling Communists as such. The only trouble is that after the investigative agency had properly labeled these men as Communists the State Department refused to discharge them. I shall give detailed cases.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy was able to characterize President Truman and the Democratic Party as soft on or even in league with the Communists. McCarthy's allegations were rejected by Truman who was unaware of [[Venona project]] decrypts which corroborated [[Elizabeth Bentley]]'s debriefing after her defection from the Communists.&lt;br /&gt;
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According to Gallup, McCarthy’s popularity crested in January 1954, when he was endorsed by all voters 50-29 (with 21 having no opinion).  His core support came from Republicans and Catholics who had not attended college.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;50 percent of the respondents had a generally &amp;quot;favorable opinion&amp;quot; of him.&lt;br /&gt;
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On March 9, 1954, [[CBS]] broadcasted [[Edward R. Murrow]]'s ''See It Now'' TV documentary attacking McCarthy.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1995, when the [[Venona files|Venona]] transcripts were declassified, further detailed information was revealed about Soviet espionage in the United States.  FBI Director [[J. Edgar Hoover]] was among only a handful of people in the U.S. Government who was aware of the Venona project, and there is no indication whatsoever Hoover shared Venona information with McCarthy.  In fact, Hoover may have actually fed McCarthy [[disinformation]], or dead end files, in an effort to put pressure on relatives, friends, or close associates of real Venona suspects by threatening to reveal embarrassing information about them in a public forum if they failed to cooperate and reveal what they might have known about someone's else’s activities and associations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
* FBI Silvermaster file, Vol. 150, [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster150.pdf pgs. 50-64] pdf. Excerpts from memorandum by FBI agent Edward Morgan asserting that there was no possible legal case against the Bentley suspects and that investigation should be discontinued, with possible exception of trying to get one of the weaker suspects to break.&lt;br /&gt;
* FBI Silvermaster file, Vol. 93, [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster093.pdf pgs. 166 - 170] pdf.  Original Edward Morgan memo 1/14/47, &amp;quot;The only reasonable hope of salvaging a successful prosecution is (a) to endeavor to make an informant of one of the subjects and/or (b) interview the subjects in the hope that at least one will break...Failing to successfully develop one of the subjects as an informant, I doubt if any more can be accomplished of probative value through further investigation...This case will stand or fall dependent upon the extent to which the subjects may break and in breaking corroborate [Elizabeth Bentley].  I personally am of the opinion that the Bureau would be derelict in its responsibility in this instance if the various subjects were not thoroughly and exhaustively interviewed.  The odds are not too good that such interviews would terminate successfully; however, it is quite possible that some lesser lights among the subjects would crack during the course of a careful and pointed interview....one of the subjects, probably the weakest sister, be contacted with a view to making him an informant.   This is an outside chance but offers the only reasonable prospect of making a case with respect to contemporaneous and future events.  Failing in this respect, that immediately the other subjects be exhaustively interviewed.  Since an interview with one would virtually amount to putting all of them on notice, it would seem logical to conduct such interviews as nearly simultaneously as possible....That failing to break any of the subjects, serious consideration be given to exposing this lousy outfit and at least hounding them from Federal service.  Several possibilities exist in this regard but this would seem to be a bridge to cross when we get to it.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  And there is no indication McCarthy might have known he was being used by Hoover in this way.&lt;br /&gt;
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On February 7, 1950, three days before McCarthy's acclaimed Wheeling, West Virginia speech, Hoover testified before House Appropriations Committee that [[Glossary of espionage terms#Counterintelligence|counterespionage]] requires &amp;quot;an objective different from the handling of criminal cases. It is more important to ascertain his contacts, his objectives, his sources of information and his methods of communication&amp;quot; as &amp;quot;arrest and public disclosure are steps to be taken only as a matter of last resort.&amp;quot; He concluded that &amp;quot;we can be secure only when we have a full knowledge of the operations of an espionage network, because then we are in a position to render their efforts ineffective.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/history/foxpaper.htm In the Enemy’s House: Venona and the Maturation of American Counterintelligence], John F. Fox, Jr., FBI Historian, Presented at the 2005 Symposium on Cryptologic History, 10/27/2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy is said to have made the claim, &amp;quot;I have here in my hand a list of 205—a list of names that were made known to the Secretary of State as being members of the Communist Party.&amp;quot; The famous &amp;quot;List&amp;quot;, as it has come to be known, has always engendered much controversy. The figure of 205 appears to have come from an oral briefing McCarthy had with Hoover regarding espionage suspects the FBI was then investigating.  The FBI had discovered on its own five Soviet agents operating in the United States during World War II; defector Elizabeth Bentley further added another 81 known identities of espionage agents; Venona materials had provided the balance, and by the time a full accounting of true name identities was compiled in an FBI memo in 1957, one more subject had been added to the number, now totaling 206.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/FBI_Synopsis_on_%22Operations_of_the_MGB_Residency_at_New_York,_1944-45%22 FBI Memo Referencing 206 Communists in Government]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Much confusion has always surrounded the subject.  While the closely guarded FBI/Venona information of identified espionage agents uses the number of 206, McCarthy in his Wheeling speech only referred to Communist Party membership and other security risks, and not espionage activity.  Being a security risk as a [[Communist Party of the United States of America]] (CPUSA) member does not necessarily entail or imply that a person was or is actively involved in espionage activity.  Venona materials indicated a very large number of espionage agents remained unidentified by the FBI.  When McCarthy was questioned on the number, he referred to the Lee List of security risks, by which it appears Hoover was attempting to match unidentified code names to known security risks. Hoover kept the identities of persons known to be involved in espionage activity from Venona evidence secret. Hoover in the very early days of the FBI's joint investigation with the [[Army Signals Intelligence Service]] in May 1946 did precisely the same deception with a confidant of [[President Truman]] using Venona decryptions.  Hoover reported that a reliable source revealed “an enormous Soviet espionage ring in Washington.” Of some fourteen names, [[KGB|Soviet agents]] [[Alger Hiss]] and [[Nathan Gregory Silvermaster]] were listed well down the list. The name at the top was “Undersecretary of State [[Dean Acheson]]” and included others beyond reproach, thus discrediting the Hiss and Silvermaster accusations, which actually were on target. Hence the Truman White House always suspected Hoover and the FBI of playing partisan political games with accusations of various administration members’ complicity in Soviet espionage.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*FBI Silvermaster file, [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster050.pdf Vol. 50, pgs. 13-16] pdf, May 29, 1946.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.fas.org/sgp/library/moynihan/foreword.html Moynihan Commission on Government Secrecy, Chairmans Forward], 1997.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Venona project specifically references at least 349 pseudonyms in the United States&amp;amp;mdash;including citizens, immigrants, and permanent residents&amp;amp;mdash;who cooperated in various ways with Soviet intelligence agencies, however not all were ever identified.  In public hearings before the [[Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations]] (PSI) conducted by McCarthy, 83 persons pled the Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination.  An additional 9 persons refused to testify on constitutional grounds in private hearings, and their names were not made public.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Drummey, James J. (May 11, 1987). [http://www.jbs.org/node/632 ''The Real McCarthy Record'']. The New American, Section III. Committee Chairman (1953-54).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of the 83 persons pleading the Fifth Amendment, several have been identified by [[NSA]] and [[FBI]] as agents of the Soviet Union in the [[Venona project]] involved in espionage. Several prominent examples are:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Mary Jane Keeney]], a United Nations employee, and her husband [[Philip Keeney]], who worked in the [[Office of Strategic Services]];&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Senator McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;Then there was a Mrs. Mary Jane Keeney from the Board of Economic Warfare in the State Department, who was named in a F.B.I. report and a House Committee report as a courier for the Communist Party while working for the Government. And where do you think Mrs. Keeney is — she is now an editor in the U.N. Documents Bureau.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Lauchlin Currie]], a special assistant to President Roosevelt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On September 9, 1950, at the Columbia County Republican Club in Portage, Wisconsin, Senator McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;Just turn back a page of history to 1945. This  Lauchlin Currie was administrative assistant to the President. This is the same Lauchlin Currie who has been named under oath by [[Elizabeth Bentley]] as the man who tipped off her Russian espionage agents that we were about to break the Japanese code...This is the same Lauchlin Currie whose picture I hold in my hand, with a picture of [[Harry Dexter White]], John Abt, and Alger Hiss — all named under oath repeatedly as Communists...At that time Lauchlin Currie was Administrative Assistant to the President. The Joint Chiefs of Staff approved sending vast amounts of German captured arms to those fighting Communism in China. After the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Eisenhower had approved the shipment — after vast quantities had left German ports destined for our allies in China — Lauchlin Currie, Truman's Administrative Assistant, the man named by Bentley and Chambers, signed an order on White House stationery ordering that all this military equipment be destroyed.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 14, 1951, Senator McCarthy gave the Senate information about Currie and his connection to the other individuals involved in supporting the Chinese Communists. He stated, &amp;quot;The Stilwell-Davies group took over in China in 1942. Soon thereafter, Lauchlin, at the White House, and [[John Carter Vincent]], and subsequently [[Alger Hiss]] at the State Department were exercising their influence at the Washington end of the transmission belt conveying poisonous misinformation from ChungKing. The full outlines of Currie's betrayal have yet to be traced....In this connection it should be recalled that Currie issued an order on White House stationery depriving the Republic of China of 20,000 German rifles.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Virginius Frank Coe]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;McCarthy Hearings, Testimony of V. Frank Coe, Executive Session, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol1.pdf Vol. 1]: 147-50, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvo43.pdf Vol. 4]: 3403, 3413, 3417-18, 3421, 3428-29&lt;br /&gt;
  testimony of, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol2.pdf Vol. 2]: 1349-72.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Director of Division of Monetary Research, U.S. Treasury;  Technical Secretary at the Bretton Woods Conference; International Monetary Fund;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[William Ludwig Ullman]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;McCarthy Hearings, Testimony of William Ludwig Ullman, Executive Session, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol3.pdf Vol. 3]: 2146, 2147, 2152, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol4.pdf Vol. 4]: 3403, 3411-14, 3418, 3421, 3426-29, testimony of, Vol. 3: 2345-49.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; delegate to the United Nations Charter Conference and Bretton Woods Conference;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Nathan Gregory Silvermaster]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;McCarthy Hearings, Testimony of Nathan Gregory Silvermaster, Executive Session, [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol2.pdf Vol. 2]: 1349, 1361, 1362,  [http://fl1.findlaw.com/news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/mccarthy/hearingsvol4.pdf Vol. 4]: 3403, 3412-14, 3425-29.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Chief Planning Technician, Procurement Division, United States Department of the Treasury and head of the Silvermaster network of spies;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Harold Glasser]], U.S. Treasury Representative to the Allied High Commission in Italy;&lt;br /&gt;
* Four staff members of the [[LaFollette Committee|LaFollette Civil Liberties Committee]], a Senate subcommittee on labor rights;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Allan Rosenberg]], Chief of the Economic Institution Staff, [[Foreign Economic Administration]]; Counsel to the [[National Labor Relations Board]];&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Solomon Adler]], U.S. Treasury Dept., went to China and joined government of [[Mao Zedong]]; &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Robert T. Miller]], Office of the Coordinator of Inter-American Affairs; Near Eastern Division United States Department of State; also identified in the ''Gorsky Memo'' from Soviet Archives; McCarthy's Case #16 and Lee list #12;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Alexander Vassiliev, Notes on A. Gorsky’s Report to Savchenko S.R., 23 December 1949.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Franz Leopold Neumann]], consultant at Board of Economic Warfare; Deputy Chief of the Central European Section of Office of Strategic Services; First Chief of Research of the [[Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal]]; also identified in the ''Gorsky Memo'' from Soviet Archives; &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Laurence Duggan]], head of United States Department of State Division of American Republics;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Joseph R. McCarthy Papers, Series 14, Senate Subject Files, Marquettte University Library Special Collections.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leonard Mins]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/resources/pdf/Volume3.pdf Army Signal Corps—Subversion and Espionage, October 22] (PDF). Executive Sessions Of The Senate Permanent Subcommittee On Investigations Of The Committee On Government Operations; Vol. 3. pgs. 2717-2726, U.S. Government Printing Office (1953).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Russian Section of the Research and Analysis Division of the [[Office of Strategic Services]];&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Cedric Belfrage]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://a257.g.akamaitech.net/7/257/2422/06amay20030700/www.gpo.gov/congress/senate/mccarthy/83870.html Executive Sessions of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations], Vol. 2, Eighty-third Congress, 14 May 1953, pgs. 1135-1164.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[British Security Coordination]]; founder the ''[[National Guardian]]''. &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gerald Graze]], U.S. State Department; Lee List #29, confirmed in the ''Gorsky Memo'' from Soviet Archives, brother of Stanley Graze;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Sergey Nikolaevich Kurnakov]], ''[[Daily Worker]]'';&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Joseph R. McCarthy Papers, Series 14, Senate Subject Files, Marquettte University Library Special Collections.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Karr]], Office of War Information; chief aide to journalist Drew Pearson.&lt;br /&gt;
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Venona transcripts confirm the Senate Civil Liberties Subcommittee, chaired by former Senator Robert LaFollette, Jr., whom McCarthy defeated for election in 1946, had at least four staff members working on behalf of the [[KGB]].  Chief Counsel of the Committee [[John Abt]]; [[Charles Kramer]], who served on three other Congressional Committees; Allen Rosenberg, who also served on the [[National Labor Relations Board]], [[Board of Economic Warfare]] (BEW), the [[Foreign Economic Administration]] (FEA) and later argued cases before the United States Supreme Court; and [[Charles Flato]], who served on the BEW and FEA, all were [[CPUSA]] members and associated with the [[Comintern]].&lt;br /&gt;
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While the underlying premise of Communists in the government was true, many of McCarthy's targets were not complicit in espionage.  Recent scholarship has established of 159 persons investigated between 1950 and 1952, there is substantial evidence nine had assisted Soviet espionage using evidence from Venona or other sources.  Of the remainder, while not being directly complicit in espionage, many were considered security risks.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page62.html  Senator Joseph McCarthy’s Lists and Venona], by John Earl Haynes, April 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Known security/loyalty risks===&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 1947, a Senate Appropriations subcommittee addressed a secret memorandum to Secretary of State George Marshall, calling to his attention a condition that developed and was continuing in the State Department.  The memo stated that &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|it was evident there was a deliberate, calculated program being carried out not only to protect communist personnel in high places, but to reduce security and intelligence protection to a nullity. On file in the department is a copy of a preliminary report of the FBI on Soviet espionage activities in the United States which involved a large number of State Department employees, some in high official positions.}}&lt;br /&gt;
Robert E. Lee was the committee’s lead investigator and supervised preparation of the list. The Lee list, also using numbers rather than names, was published in the proceeding of the subcommittee.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;U.S. Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, State Department Employee Loyalty Investigations (Washington, D.C.: U.S. Govt. Print. Off., 1950).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The memorandum listed the names of nine State Department officials and said that they were &amp;quot;only a few of the hundreds now employed in varying capacities who are protected and allowed to remain despite the fact that their presence is an obvious hazard to national security.&amp;quot;  Ten persons were removed from the list by June 24. But from 1947 until McCarthy's Wheeling speech in February 1950, the State Department did not fire one person as a loyalty or security risk.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/jepeurifoy.htm John Emil Peurifoy, Foreign Service Office &amp;amp; United States Ambassador],  Arlington National Cemetery Website, retrieved 21 March 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In other branches of the government, however, more than 300 persons were discharged for loyalty reasons alone during the period from 1947 to 1951. &lt;br /&gt;
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Most but not all of Senator McCarthy’s numbered cases were drawn from the “Lee List” or “108 list” of unresolved Department of State security cases compiled by Lee for the House Appropriations Committee in 1947.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.johnearlhaynes.org/page62.html  Senator Joseph McCarthy’s Lists and Venona], by John Earl Haynes, April 2007.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   The Tydings subcommittee also obtained this list.  In addition to some of the person involved in espionage identified in the [[Venona project]] listed above, there are other security and loyalty risks identified correctly by Senator McCarthy included in the following list:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Robert Warren Barnett]] &amp;amp; [[Mrs. Robert Warren Barnett]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #48 and #49 respectively and both are on Lee list as #59;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Presented by McCarthy as Case Numbers 48 and 49 respectively and both are Number 59 on the Lee list. McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;The letters of charges against the Barnetts—both Robert Warren Barnett and his wife, Mrs. Robert Warren Barnett—charge them with close association and constant contact with known Soviet espionage activity.&amp;quot; See also FBI Silvermaster file, Vol. 116, Robert Barnett contacts with [[Donald Wheeler]] formerly of [[OSS]]; Robert Barnett also served in OSS.&lt;br /&gt;
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Robert Barnett contacts with [[Donald Wheeler]] formerly of [[OSS]]; Robert Barnett also served in OSS.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
* [[Esther Brunauer]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #47 and Lee list #55;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Presented by McCarthy as Case Number 47 and Number 55 on the Lee list. She belonged to a number of [[Communist front]] organizations, including chairman of a meeting of the American Friends of the Soviet Union where the main speaker was a well known Communist and writer for the ''Daily Worker''. &amp;quot;Brunauer was a signer of a call to the annual meeting of the [[American Youth Congress]] which was publicly known to be completely dominated by the Communist Party. She admitted that her husband had Communist connections and had been a member of the [[Young Communist League]].&amp;quot; Brunauer was suspended by the State Department in 1951 pending adjudication of security proceedings against her. On June 16, 1952, she was discharged by the State Department as a security risk. See ''McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning'' for greater detail on this case.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Stephen Brunauer]], U.S. Navy, chemist in the explosive research division;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;Brunauer, an admitted former member of the Young Communist League, was suspended from his job as head of the Navy's high explosives section where he was engaged in top secret work. He resigned before the Navy's Loyalty Board could complete questioning him and dispose of his case.&amp;quot; Brunauer also had a reputation for associating with know Communists. McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;For example, his very good friend, [[Noel Field]], a known Communist and espionage agent, spent night after night with Stephen Brunauer, who had access to all the top secrets in the explosive section of our Navy. Field then left the country, and has since disappeared behind the iron curtain, taking with him all the information which his friend Brunauer had given him ... What forced the Navy to take action was that it appeared during the atom-spy investigations that Stephen Brunauer was involved.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Gertrude Cameron]], Information and Editorial Specialist in the U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #55 and Lee list #65;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Presented by McCarthy as Case Number 55 and Number 65 on the Lee list. Just like [[Arpad Erdos]], [[Nelson Chipchin]], [[John Tipton Fishburn]], [[Stella Gordon]], [[Myron Victor Hunt]], [[Esther Less Kopelewich]], [[Franz Leopold Neumann]], [[Robert Ross]], [[Sylvia Schimmel]], and [[Frances M. Tuchser]] on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Cameron as being one of the individuals that he had given to the [[Tydings Committee]] a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Cameron, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Cameron remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Cameron, like, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on her activities despite concerns about her loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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An FBI Surveillance report on [[Edward Fitzgerald (Soviet spy)|Edward Fitzgerald]] from September 1947 notes that on May 20, 1947 Fitzgerald's brother-in-law had lunch with [[J. Robert Oppenheimer]] and an appointment with [[Leslie Groves]].  Sometime later Frank Cameron, a regular contact of Fitzgerald tried to contact Gertrude Cameron in the State Department from the Fitzgerald’s home.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Nelson Chipchin]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's list #23;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Presented by McCarthy as Case Number 23. Just like [[Arpad Erdos]], [[Gertrude Cameron]], [[John Tipton Fishburn]], [[Stella Gordon]], [[Myron Victor Hunt]], [[Esther Less Kopelewich]], [[Franz Leopold Neumann]], [[Robert Ross]], [[Sylvia Schimmel]], and [[Frances M. Tuchser]] on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Chipchin as being one of the individuals that he had given to the [[Tydings Committee]] a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Chipchin, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Chipchin remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Chipchin, like Cameron, Fishburn, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on his activities despite concerns about his loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Oliver Edmund Clubb]], U.S. State Department;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy presented Clubb's name and evidence against him to the [[Tyding's Committee]]. In 1952, by unanimous vote, the U.S. State Department Loyalty and Security Board found that Clubb's employment in the State Department constituted a security risk. The Deputy Under Secretary for Administration, Carlisle Humelsine agreed with this decision. Clubb ultimately resigned. On March 5, 1952, [[Dean Acheson|Secretary Acheson]] confirmed to the Media that Senator McCarthy was correct.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John Paton Davies]], U.S. State Department, Policy Planning Committee;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy stated that, &amp;quot;Both [John Stewart] Service and Davies spent considerable time in China as State Department officials. In their recommendations to Washington both followed the Communist Party line. For example, on November 7, 1944, Davies submitted a memorandum to the State Department outing that the Communist Party in China was 'a modern dynamic popular government.' At the same time he referred to the anti-Communists as 'feudal.' 'The Communists are in China to stay. And China's destiny is not Chiang's but theirs,' said Davies. On December 12, 1944 he urged that we supply the Chinese Communists with arms — a proposal which Dean Acheson two years later requested Congress to approve.&amp;quot; In 1944, Ambassador to China, [[Patrick J. Hurley]], accused Davies of working behind his back to support the Communists. According to Hurley, &amp;quot;Davies had one day flown off to Yenan to tell [[Mao Zedong|Mao TseTung]], the Communist leader, that Hurley, our Ambassador (an anti-Communist), did not represent the American viewpoint.&amp;quot; According to ''The China Story'' by [[Freda Utley]], Davies was a great fan of Communist operative [[Agnes Smedley]] who operated in China. Utley states, &amp;quot;Davies was also a great admirer of [[Agnes Smedley]], whom he called one of 'the pure in heart.' He used to invite us all to excellent dinners at the American consulate, at which he expressed both his admiration and affection for Agnes. Together with [[Edgar Snow]] and other journalists I knew in Hankow, he [Davies] became one of the most potent influences in the Department [of State] furthering the cause of the Chinese Communists.&amp;quot; The [[United States Senate Subcommittee on Internal Security|McCarran Committee]] had found that Davies had &amp;quot;testified falsely before the subcommittee in denying that he recommended the Central Intelligence Agency employ, utilize and rely upon certain individuals having Communist associations and connections. This matter was...substantial in import.&amp;quot; Despite the enormous evidence of Davies' support of the Communists, the State Department cleared him of being a security/loyalty risk. Eventually, in 1954, under political pressure from McCarthy and Senator [[Patrick McCarran]], Secretary of State [[John Foster Dulles]] asked Davies to resign. When he refused, on 5 November 1954, Dulles terminated his employment, stating that Davies had &amp;quot;demonstrated a lack of judgment, discretion and reliability.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = June 14, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 6574&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Utley&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Freda &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = The China Story&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Chicago, H. Regnery Co.&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B00005VL2B}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The Devin-Adair Company&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B0007DRBZ2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Gustavo Duran]], U.S. State Department, assistant to the Assistant Secretary of State in charge of Latin American Affairs, and Chief of the Cultural Activities Section of the Department of Social Affairs of the United Nations;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The Duran Case is considered one of Senator McCarthy's &amp;quot;Nine Public Cases&amp;quot;. McCarthy attempted to present evidence of Gustavo Duran's status as a security risk during the [[Tydings Committee]]. In violation of its mandate, the Tydings Committee refused to discuss McCarthy's evidence. Intelligence reports presented by McCarthy made the case quite clear that Duran was a bad security risk. All evidence submitted indicated that Duran was a Communist agent prior and during WWII, who took orders directly from the Soviet Union. It is unclear whether Duran was either hired with the knowledge that he had a Communist Party background or whether the State Department Loyalty Board simply failed to perform its obligation to properly screen out security risks. Either way, the State Department failed to perform its duties.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}},&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = February 20, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 1956&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}},&lt;br /&gt;
 Isaac Walton League, Fond du Lac (July 30, 1950), Wisconsin)&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = FBI Silvermaster file, Tamm to the Director, &lt;br /&gt;
 | date = April 22, 1946&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster042.pdf Vol. 42, pg. 100] pdf&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = FBI Silvermaster file&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = October 10, 1946&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster076.pdf [Vol. 76, pgs. 9 and 126] pdf&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government}}; (heavily redacted). Memorandum discuss inquiry from the U.S. Statement as to the participation of Alger Hiss, Gustavo Duran and others in the [[Amerasia]] case. Fitch recommends replying to the State Dept. by referring to the detailed memoranda on Hiss and Duran which was previously submitted and a summary memo transmitted to General Holmes, to Fred Lyon's attention on May 29, 1945 in connection with [[Philip Jaffe]] and the Amerasia case (pg. 9).  Statement that memos on Alger Hiss and Gustavo Duran will follow. Hiss memo is included, but that on Duran is not (pg. 126).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Arpad Erdos]], U.S. State Department;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like [[Gertrude Cameron]], [[Nelson Chipchin]], John Tipton Fishburn, [[Stella Gordon]], [[Myron Victor Hunt]], [[Esther Less Kopelewich]], Franz Leopold Neumann, [[Robert Ross]], [[Sylvia Schimmel]], and [[Frances M. Tuchser]] on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Erdos as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Erdos, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Erdos remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Erdos, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Gordon, Hunt, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on his activities despite concerns about his loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Herbert Fierst]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's case #1 and Lee list #51;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Presented by McCarthy as Case Number 1 and Number 51 on the Lee list. Fierst was employed by the State Department beginning in September, 1946. In 1951, he was placed into the loyalty-security channels of the State Department. The Civil Service Loyalty Review Board expressed dissatisfaction with the handling of his case, and sent it back to the State Department Board for readjudication. Afterwards, a judgment was issued by the Civil Service Loyalty Review Board that, &amp;quot;a State Department officer's loyalty status had not been explored with sufficient thoroughness even after seven years.&amp;quot; According to Robert L. Bannerman, Special Assistant and security officer in the State Department, in a memo issued by him on August 2, 1946, indicates that, &amp;quot;physical surveillance showed that this man Fierst was in constant contact with members of an espionage group and that he recommended Communists for State Department employment, and was engaged in a number of other Communist activities.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
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 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9707&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster064.pdf Vol. 64, pg. 240] pdf. Brief background on Herbert Fierst.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster077.pdf Vol. 77, pg. 202] pdf, September 1946.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* John Tipton Fishburn, U.S. State Department; Lee list #106;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, Stella Gordon, Myron Victor Hunt, Esther Less Kopelewich, Franz Leopold Neumann, Robert Ross, Sylvia Schimmel, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Fishburn as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Fishburn, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Fishburn remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Fishburn, like Cameron, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on his activities despite concerns about his loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
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 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Theodore Geiger]], U.S. State Department;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
During the Tydings Committee hearings, Robert Morris, the Chief Counsel for the Minority, stated that Geiger was engaged in espionage activities as part of a Communist Party cell operating in the U.S. Morris offered to provide several witnesses who were also in Geiger's Communist Party cell however the Chairman of the Tydings Committee, [[Millard Tydings]] declined to hear the testimony. On July 25, 1950, Senator McCarthy told the Senate about this case and that the witnesses to Geiger's Communist Party cell where willing to testify but that [[Millard Tydings]] refused the opportunity to expose a known Communist working for the State Department.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = July 25, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 1091&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Stella Gordon, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #40 and Lee list #45&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Myron Victor Hunt, Esther Less Kopelewich, Franz Leopold Neumann, Robert Ross, Sylvia Schimmel, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Gordon as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Gordon, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Gordon remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Gordon, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Hunt, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on her activities despite concerns about her loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Stanley Graze]], U.S. State Department intelligence; McCarthy's Case #8 and Lee list #8, brother of Gerald Graze, confirmed in KGB Archives;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Graze was McCarthy's Case Number 8. Graze and his brother, [[Gerald Graze|Gerald]], were both employed by the State Department during [[World War II]] and in 1944, Gerald was identified as a secret member of the [[Communist Party of the United States]]. Even so, Stanley continued to work for the State Department until 1948. Oddly enough, on April 20, 1948, the Loyalty Security Board cleared him. Ten days later he resigned and became employed with the United Nations. Both Gerald and Stanley Graze are identified in the 1948 ''Gorsky Memo'' of Compromised American sources and networks having a covert relationship with Soviet intelligence. On October 14, 1952, while testifying before the [[United States Senate Subcommittee on Internal Security|McCarran Committee]] he refused to answer questions regarding participation in the [[Communist Party of the United States]] and questions regarding espionage activity against the U.S. How Graze passed the State Department's Review Board remains unexplained.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ruth Marcia Harrison]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #7 and Lee list #4;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Harrison as being a U.S. State Department employee who was clearly a security and loyalty risk. McCarthy mentioned that Harrison belonged to a long list of [[Communist front]] organizations and the Library of Congress branch of the Communist Party. Harrison was investigated by various branches of the Federal government numerous times before her termination in 1951, mainly because of her involvement in the 1930’s in organizations that had been identified as subversive. These organizations include the American Student Union, the [[Young Communist League]], and the Washington Bookshop Association. Subversive elements in the Federal government were able to clear Harrison in all prior investigations, but in 1951, her luck ran out. An informant revealed that Harrison had been active in the Library of Congress branch of the Communist Party when she was employed there as a cataloger, and this information ultimately led to the Loyalty and Security Board’s determination that Harrison posed a security risk as a Federal employee. Government documents related to her case that were declassified after amendments to the Freedom of Information Act in 1975, including investigation files from the [[FBI]], the State Department, the [[CIA]], and the Civil Service Commission indicated that the government's case against Harrison was absolutely correct and her termination justified.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9707&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Myron Victor Hunt, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #65 and Lee list #79;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Stella Gordon, Esther Less Kopelewich, Franz Leopold Neumann, Robert Ross, Sylvia Schimmel, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Hunt as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Hunt, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Hunt remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Hunt, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Kopelewich, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on his activities despite concerns about his loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Philip Jessup]], U.S. State Department, Assistant Director for the Naval School of Military Government and Administration at Columbia University in New York, Delegate to the U.N. in a number of different capacities, Ambassador-at-large, and Chairman of the Institute of Pacific Relations Research Advisory Committee; McCarthy's Case #15;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
McCarthy's first comments regarding Jessup were made during the Tydings Committee hearings where McCarthy stated that Jessup had an unusual affinity for Communist causes. McCarthy was never allowed by the Tydings Committee to outline his case regarding Jessup but the committee did allow Jessup to fly in from Pakistan and give his defense against charges that McCarthy had not yet even made. Needless to say, the Tydings Committee cleared Jessup as they did with everyone that appeared before them. However, in two speeches on the floor of the Senate, McCarthy gave his evidence regarding Jessup's &amp;quot;unusual affinity for Communist causes&amp;quot;. They are as follows:&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
(1) That Jessup had been affiliated with five [[Communist front]] groups;&lt;br /&gt;
(2) That Jessup had been a leading light in the [[Institute of Pacific Relations]] (IPR) at a time that organization was reflecting the Communist Party line;&lt;br /&gt;
(3) And that he had &amp;quot;pioneered the smear campaign against Nationalist China and Chiang Kai-shek&amp;quot; and propagated the &amp;quot;myth of the 'democratic Chinese Communist'&amp;quot; through the IPR magazine, ''Far Eastern Survey'', over which he had &amp;quot;absolute control&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
(4) That Jessup had associated with known Communists in the IPR;&lt;br /&gt;
(5) That the IPR's American Council under Jessup's guidance had received more than $7,000 of Communist funds from [[Frederick Vanderbilt Field]];&lt;br /&gt;
(6) That Jessup had &amp;quot;expressed vigorous opposition&amp;quot; to attempts to investigate Communist penetration of the IPR;&lt;br /&gt;
(7) That Jessup had urged that United States atom bomb production be brought to a halt in 1946, and that essential atomic ingredients be &amp;quot;dumped into the ocean&amp;quot;;&lt;br /&gt;
(8) That Jessup had appeared as a character witness for Alger Hiss, and that later, after Hiss's conviction, Jessup had found &amp;quot;no reason whatever to change his opinion about Hiss's veracity, loyalty and integrity.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
While it may be questionable that Jessup pioneered the smear campaign against Chiang Kai-Shek, it's clear that he aided in it. There's no doubt that every single one of these allegations was essentially correct. Solid evidence shows that Jessup was associated with four Communist front organizations. They are as follows:&lt;br /&gt;
the [[American Russian Institute]], the [[National Emergency Conference]] (and its successor, the [[National Emergency Conference for Democratic Rights]]), the [[American Law Students Association]], and the [[American Council of the Institute of Pacific Relations]]. According to the House Committee on Un-American Activities each of these organizations was cited as Communist front groups at the time of Jessup's association with them. Although the Tydings Committee did not allow McCarthy to present his evidence against Jessup, the Tydings Committee did refer to some of McCarthy's evidence that were made on the floor of the Senate. Of course, as usual, the Tydings Committee either ignored the significance of the evidence or downplayed it. It was up to the [[United States Senate Subcommittee on Internal Security|McCarran Committee]] a year later to do the real investigating and in discussing the IPR, it stated, &amp;quot;The IPR was a vehicle used by Communists to orientate American Far Eastern policy toward Communist objectives.&amp;quot; The McCarran Committee Hearings clearly indicate that the IPR was more than just a Communist front organization in that there was an active Communist &amp;quot;cell&amp;quot; that put the services of the IPR at the disposal of &amp;quot;Communist imperialism&amp;quot;. And that this was achieved by &amp;quot;manipulating&amp;quot; the IPR's policy-making officials.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The McCarran Committee reported that ten of the thirty-three individuals whom Jessup recommended as delegates to the IPR Hot Springs Convention in January of 1945 have been named as members of the Communist Party. Jessup was well aware that Frederick Vanderbilt Field was a member of the Communist Party, and especially so when Field resigned from the IPR to devote full time to the Communist front organization, [[American Peace Mobilization]].&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Jessup also presided over the State Department Policy Conference of October 1949 that was not only stocked with Jessup's pro-Communist associates but also, in the words of the McCarran Committee, which stated, &amp;quot;...the prevailing [majority] view at the conference advocated (a) the recognition of Communist China; (b) normal trade relations between the United States and Communist China; (c) encouragement of trade between Japan and Communist China; (d) economic assistance to Communist China; (e) recognition that Communist conquest in Asia was a natural and inevitable consequence of revolutionary ferment in Asia with its Communist nature being incidental.&amp;quot; [[Harold Stassen]] and [[General Joseph Fortier]] have respectively testified that Jessup not only ignored advice to disregard the pro-Communist direction of the conference and that Jessup was in favor of recognizing Communist China. The above evidence clearly demonstrates that Jessup was at least a security risk and that the State Department Loyalty program failed to identify him as such. &lt;br /&gt;
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 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Tydings Committee Hearings&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Pages 28, 41, 42, 100, 229, 247, 256, 257, 273, 497-498, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = March 30, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Pages 4402-4405&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = June 2, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Pages 8000-8003&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarran Report,&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = July 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Pages 100-103, 122-123, 147-148, 212, 225, 494-495, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Dorothy Kenyon]], New York City Municipal Court Judge, U.S. State Department appointee as American Delegate to the United Nations Commission on the Status of Women;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Dorothy Kenyon is considered one of McCarthy's &amp;quot;Nine Public Cases&amp;quot; that was presented to the Tydings Committee. Kenyon was McCarthy's first case and it took two days in order for McCarthy to present the evidence due to the constant interruptions by members of the Tyding's Committee. This prompted Senator Lodge to state that, &amp;quot;I think to interrupt the witness [McCarthy] every time and break up his continuity and destroy the flow of his argument, the way we are doing, is not the right procedure....For some reason that has not been made clear to me, whether it is to rattle or whether it is to confuse, I don't know, we have an entirely different procedure today...I am objecting to the constant interruption of the witness so that he never gets a fair shake.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Despite the constant harassment, McCarthy's evidence included showing that Kenyon belonged to at least 24 Communist front organizations labeled as such in part by the [[United States Attorney General]], the [[House Un-American Activities Committee]], and other governmental committees. The documents presented by McCarthy included, official organization letterheads that listed Kenyon as a sponsor or as a member, official programs of organization sponsored dinners, and newspaper reports of open letters that Kenyon had signed that connected her with the organizations. Certainly, these were all documents that were easily accessible to the State Department should they have cared to look into Kenyon's political background.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
When Kenyon was asked by the Tydings Committee whether she had ever been interviewed by the State Department as to her affiliation to any Communist front organizations, she responded that she had never been asked. According to the security evaluation procedure of the State Department, Kenyon should have been asked about these affiliations but failed to do so. McCarthy had easily demonstrated from this first case that the screening process of the State Department was certainly lax and quite possibly purposefully ignoring easily identifiable security risks. However, the Tydings Committee instead ignored this evidence and set the precedent for the hearings that anyone that came before the committee was going to be given a positive evaluation no matter how strongly the evidence indicated the witness was a security risk.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
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 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
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 | year = 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 68&lt;br /&gt;
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{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = March 30, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Pages 4380-81&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Leon Hirsch Keyserling]], President [[Harry Truman]]'s Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Keyserling had an extensive background of service in the U.S. government. He had helped to shift the emphasis of U.S. economic policy toward a more [[Socialist]]ic structure. Evidence in the form of sworn testimony submitted to the McCarran Committee indicated that he agreed with the principles of the Communist Party except for the idea that Communization of the U.S. could only be achieved through &amp;quot;bloody revolution&amp;quot; and he was against the idea of a separate political entity for Black people in the U.S. South. Other than those two details, Keyserling, a major official in the U.S. government, agreed with the Communization of the U.S. Less than a year after Senator McCarthy made this information public, Keyserling left U.S. government work for the private sector yet continued to act as a paid consultant to the U.S. Congress.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 21, 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 4153&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Mary Dublin Keyserling]], U.S. Department of Commerce;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Keyserling is the wife of [[Leon Hirsch Keyserling]] and also had an extensive background working for the U.S. government. On April 21, 1952, McCarthy gave her specifics to the Senate. He stated that the evidence presented to the Commerce Department's Loyalty Board showed that Keyserling had been a member of the Communist Party and that she also belonged to a great many Communist front organizations.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
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 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 21, 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 4153&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Esther Less Kopelewich, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #24;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Stella Gordon, Myron Victor Hunt, Franz Leopold Neumann, Robert Ross, Sylvia Schimmel, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Kopelewich as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Kopelewich, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Kopelewich remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Kopelewich, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Ross, Schimmel, Tuchser, and Neumann, was able to carry on her activities despite concerns about her loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Owen Lattimore]], Board member of the communist-dominated [[Institute of Pacific Relations]] (I.P.R) and editor the I.P.R.’s journal ''Pacific Affairs'';&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Identified by McCarthy as a Communist and under Party discipline. Former Communist Party member and head of the Buben group of spies, [[Louis Budenz]] corroborated McCarthy's claims and detailed how Lattimore had been of service to the Communist Party in the ''Amerasia'' case. Lattimore was also identified by former Soviet Army General [[Alexander Barmine]] as a member of Russian Military Intelligence ([[GRU]]). In a unanimous report, the McCarran Committee classified Lattimore as a &amp;quot;conscious articulate instrument of the Soviet conspiracy&amp;quot;. Lattimore wrote a letter of introduction for [[Haakon Chevalier]] to [[KGB]] operative, [[Lauchlin Currie]]. Chevalier was attempting to obtain a Government job during this period of time. Chevalier is a known Soviet Secret Intelligence Service ([[NKVD]]) contact and was associated with numerous members of the Communist Party on the West Coast. Currie also recommended Lattimore to President Roosevelt to serve as a special advisor to [[Chiang Kai-shek]]. Indicted for committing perjury. In December 1952, Currie gave evidence in New York to a grand jury investigating Lattimore's role in the publication by [[Amerasia]] magazine of secret State Department documents. All evidence indicates that Lattimore was a security and a loyalty risk and served to guide U.S. foreign policy to the detriment of U.S national interests.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The Devin-Adair Company&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B0007DRBZ2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Paul A. Lifantieff-Lee]], U.S. Naval Department; McCarthy's Case #56 and Lee list #66;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Born in the Soviet Union. On August 9, 1951, McCarthy presented to the Senate information about Lifantieff-Lee. He stated that, &amp;quot;His file in the Navy Department, which was transmitted to the State Department, shows that he took secret State Department documents, which were found in his room and picked up by naval intelligence. That is shown by the naval intelligence report.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Val R. Lorwin]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #54 and Lee list #64;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In December, 1945, Lorwin became employed with the State Department. He quickly became Chief of the State Department's  European Division of International Labor, Social, and Health Affairs. After that, he became a labor economist for the State Department. On February 5, 1952, approximately one year after the [[Tyding's Committee]] cleared Lorwin, the State Department suspended him. On March 28, 1952, he was restored to full duty, and in June 1952, was formally cleared of all charges regarding security or loyalty issues. Shortly thereafter, Lorwin resigned, and went to work for the University of Chicago as an assistant professor of social sciences and industrial relations. According to Buckley, &amp;quot;on December 4, 1953, a Federal Grand Jury handed down an indictment of Lorwin, charging that he had lied under oath in claiming (1) that he had never been a member of the Communist Party, (2) that he had never carried a Communist Party card, and (3) that he had never held a Communist Party meeting in his home.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The Devin-Adair Company&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B0007DRBZ2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Daniel F. Margolies]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #41 and Lee list #46;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy gave the Senate information on an employee of the State Department named Daniel F. Margolies. McCarthy described Margolies as, &amp;quot;one of the top security men in the State Department&amp;quot; and was hired by the State Department despite the fact that he was disapproved on the grounds that he was a &amp;quot;bad loyalty and security risk.&amp;quot; The State Department never explained the rationale in hiring someone who was clearly a security and loyalty risk.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9707&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://foia.fbi.gov/silversm/silversm5c.pdf FBI Silvmaster file 5c pg. 11 pdf]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Peveril Meigs]], U.S. State Department; Department of the Army; McCarthy's Case #3 and Lee list #2;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Meigs became employed with the State Department in September, 1945, and was allowed to resign from the State department in 1948 even though there were concerns regarding his security/loyalty. McCarthy related to the Senate the fact that Meigs was under investigation by the State Department's security/loyalty board yet was allowed to resign without noting his file as having been under investigation. Subsequently, Meigs went to work for the Department of the Army and after McCarthy communicated to the Army that Meigs should be investigated, the Army then looked into Meigs' background and found him to be a clear loyalty/security risk. In January 12, 1952 and again on May 26, 1952, McCarthy stated to the Senate that, &amp;quot;On February 20, I believe, I laid before the Senate the case of Perveril Meigs. The State Department held a hearing. They knew that they could not conceivably clear Perveril Meigs, even with the type of board which they have. What did they do? They notified him that he would not be cleared, so he then resigned, went over to the Army and got a job in the Army, with no notification to the Army that this man was an extremely bad security risk because of close association with espionage agents. It was only after we called the Army's attention to the case that the Army Loyalty Board took the case up, and of course, they promptly ordered him discharged.&amp;quot; Meigs' case is a perfect example of the State Department covering up either its' incompetence in hiring individuals that are security/loyalty risks and/or in being able to properly filter out such individuals once they are employees of the State Department. The tactic of informing a suspected security/loyalty risk and allowing him or her to resign was a strategy implemented in order for the State Department to avoid appearing incompetent or as though they did not make any effort to avoid hiring loyalty/security risks. &lt;br /&gt;
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 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = January 15, 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 192&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = May 26, 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 5963&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The Devin-Adair Company&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B0007DRBZ2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Ella M. Montague]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #34 and Lee list #32;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
She was born in the [[Soviet Union]] in 1896. On August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;She [Montague] worked for the [[Amtorg Trading Corporation]]. The testimony before three different committees is that only top members of the Communist Party could work for Amtorg.&amp;quot; McCarthy also stated that, &amp;quot;...5 or 6 of the officers of Amtorg were picked up about a year ago and charged with espionage. Under pressure from the State Department they were allowed to return to Russia.&amp;quot; As usual, McCarthy was correct about both Montague being a security/loyalty risk and about Amtorg being a front organization to further the expansionistic goals of the Soviet Union. [[Amtorg Trading Corporation]] is an American company based in New York that was founded in 1924 by the Soviet Union to serve as its buying and selling organization in trade between the USSR and the USA. It handled the bulk of Soviet-American trade until 1935, and continues to exist today. Working as an Amtorg employee served as a convenient cover for Soviet spies, such the Soviet spy, [[Morris Cohen]].&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9707&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = The American Legion&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1937&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = ISMS: A Review of Alien Isms, Revolutionary Communism, and Their Active Sympathizers in the United States, Pages 85-87&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The American Legion, Indianapolis&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B000KIJS6Y}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Philleo Nash]], Presidential Advisor, [[Franklin D. Roosevelt]] and [[Harry S. Truman]] administrations;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On January 29, 1952, Senator McCarthy outlined the charges against Nash, who had been a Presidential advisor in the Franklin D. Roosevelt and Truman administrations. McCarthy stated that this matter was &amp;quot;developed by the F.B.I.&amp;quot; and that Nash &amp;quot;had been in close contact with the Communist underground in Washington D.C.&amp;quot;; that he had been a close friend and associate of a convicted Canadian Communist; that Nash had &amp;quot;contributed to the support of the Canadian ''Tribune'', the official organ of the Communist Party in Canada&amp;quot;; that during the early 1940's some of the Canadian spy ring were using his home in Toronto as a meeting point and that some of them were living there; and that in the early 1940's Nash &amp;quot;was attending Communist meetings and had officially joined the Communist Party.&amp;quot; In an interview with Jerry N. Hess on May 15, 1969, Nash essentially confirmed the essence of these charges, yet Nash was never adversely affected by these issues.  Nash had worked in the [[Office of War Information]] beginning in 1942. &lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = January 29, 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 581&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Hess&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Jerry&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Oral History Interview with Philleo Nash&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Truman Presidential Museum and Library&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = May 15, 1969&lt;br /&gt;
 | url = http://www.trumanlibrary.org/oralhist/nash15.htm}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster058.pdf Vol. 58, pgs. 107 - 110] pdf.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster065.pdf Vol. 65, pgs. 155 - 156] pdf. August 1946. Notes contact between Nash and [[Louise Bransten]] in January 1944. Bransten was the mistress of San Francisco KGB [[Rezident]] [[Grigory Kheifets]] who made initial contact with [[J. Robert Oppenheimer]] in the home of Bransten on December 6, 1941.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Olga V. Osnatch]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #81 and Lee list #78;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Osnatch as his Case #81. At the time of McCarthy's original investigation, Osnatch was not yet a citizen of the United States. At the time of this speech, it was not clear if she had gotten her citizenship papers or not. McCarthy stated that, &amp;quot;She worked for the Russian Embassy in Turkey for 3 years. Then with the Russian Welfare Society, and so forth. One of the significant things here, of course, is that the Russians do not hire people in their embassies unless they are Communists.&amp;quot; So, what McCarthy was making clear in this speech was that only committed Communists are employed with Soviet agencies. Why an assumed Communist was allowed to work for the U.S. government was yet another mystery that the Truman administration would not explain.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
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 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9707&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Edward Posniak]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case Number 77;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Posniak was submitted to the Tyding's Committee by McCarthy as Case Number 77. An F.B.I. agent and an F.B.I. informant reported that Posniak was a member of the Communist Party. On November 15, 1950, the State Department contacted the Loyalty Review Board that Posniak &amp;quot;elected to resign rather than accept suspension pending investigation and adjudication of certain charges bearing loyalty.&amp;quot; &lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Philip Raine]], U.S. State Department, Regional Specialist; McCarthy's Case #52 and Lee list #62;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
On August 9, 1951, McCarthy stated, &amp;quot;He [Raine] is tied up, in the letter of the charges, very closely with Robert T. Miller, who has been identified under oath several times as a Russian espionage agent.&amp;quot; McCarthy was making a close association to Miller who he himself had been identified by former Soviet operative, [[Elizabeth Bentley]] in her 1945 FBI statement. Again, it was incumbent upon the State Department to investigate these serious allegations yet did nothing about them.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file, [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster023.pdf &amp;quot;Underground Espionage Organization (NKVD) in Agencies of the United States Government&amp;quot;], Vol. 23, pgs. 55 - 272 pdf, February 21, 1946. Includes alphabetical index at end.  In the later part of February 1946, the [[FBI]] transmitted to Secretary of State [[George Marshall]]l a 194 page Report based upon Soviet defector Elizabeth Bentley's deposition three months earlier entitled, &amp;quot;Underground Espionage Organization (NKVD) in Agencies of the United States Government.&amp;quot;  Preliminary investigations and other information in Bureau files gave support and credence to the providential value of Bentley's serious allegations. Bentley had been assigned a covername by the FBI, &amp;quot;Gregory,&amp;quot; and the highly secret investigation was referred to by investigators as &amp;quot;the Gregory Case.&amp;quot;  State Department internal investigators provided a list of questions to the FBI for the confidential informant to answer. The Statement requested information about Philip and Alice Raine.  Bentley, who worked out of New York, responded the names were entirely unfamiliar (pg. Vol. 96, pg. 87).  Philip and Alicia Raine subsequently were developed as leads by FBI investigators in the Washington field office while surveilling the many contacts of [[Mary Jane Keeney]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file, Hoover letter to Secretary of State George Marshall, [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster096.pdf Vol. 96, pgs. 85 -90] pdf, March 10, 1946.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster077.pdf Vol. 77, pgs. 133, 135, 201] pdf, September 1946.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Robert Ross, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #32 and Lee list #30;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Stella Gordon, Myron Victor Hunt, Franz Leopold Neumann, Sylvia Schimmel, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Ross as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Ross, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Ross remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Ross, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Neumann, Schimmel, and Tuchser, was able to carry on his activities despite concerns about his loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Sylvia Schimmel, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #50 and Lee list #60;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Stella Gordon, Myron Victor Hunt, Franz Leopold Neumann, Frances M. Tuchser on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Schimmel as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Schimmel, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Schimmel remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Ross, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, Neumann, and Tuchser, was able to carry on her activities despite concerns about her loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster061.pdf Vol. 61, pgs. 74 -79] pdf; Hottel to the Director, &amp;quot;Just Lunning,&amp;quot; July 18, 1947.   Discussion between Mary Jane Keeney and Sylvia Schimmel about Just Lunning, who would become Schimmel’s supervisor at the State Department. Sylvia Schimmel complained to Just Lunning she was not being given meaningful work at the State Dept. due to Schimmel's work for the Political Action Committee. Just Lunning had links to William T. Stone, [[V. Frank Coe]], Philip Dunaway, David Wahl, [[Donald Wheeler]], [[Allan Rosenberg]], Bowen Smith, and [[Edward Fitzgerald]]. Mary Jane Keeney had innumerable contacts in the [[CPUSA]] underground espionage apparatus which included [[Greg Silvermaster]], [[Helen Silvermaster]], [[Sergey Kurnakov]], [[Joseph Bernstein]], [[Frederick Field]], [[Maurice Halperin]], [[Haakon Chevalier]], [[Richard Bransten]], [[Laurence Todd]], [[William Ullman]], and [[Robert Miller]]. Much of the Silvermaster file is devoted to surveillance reports on them.  Mary Jane Keeney had served in the occupation of Berlin while at this time her husband, [[Philip Keeney]] was serving in Japan. Mary Jane Keeney was seeking to join him there. The FBI and State Department officials were moving to prevent this, and to have Philip recalled from his position with the occupation forces.  Mary Jane Keeney had turned to Sylvia Schimmel for assistance with her passport problems.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster065.pdf Vol. 65, pg. 51] pdf.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;FBI Silvermaster file [http://education-research.org/PDFs/Silvermaster096.pdf Vol. 96, pg. 78] pdf.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Frederick Schumann]], contracted by U.S. State Department as lecturer; Professor at Williams College; not on Lee list;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Schumann was a consultant for the State Department but not as an employee. His job was to lecture and train State Department employees who were subsequently to be placed in sensitive posts. In this capacity, out of 57 instructors, only three, Schumann, Edward Acheson (Dean's brother), and Communist [[Owen Lattimore]] were not government officials. According to the [[House Committee on Un-American Activities]], Schumann was a member of over 50 Communist front organizations. In 1932, Schuman supported the Communist Party ticket for President. Schumann wrote a pro-Soviet book titled, ''Soviet Politics at Home and Abroad'' that appeared just before the State Department enlisted him for his help in helping out orient the Foreign Service officers. While Schumann declined an invitation to the Tydings Committee in order to address charges against him, the Committee, as with other cases, showed no interest in determining why pro-Soviet lecturers were being utilized by the State Department and who was doing the hiring.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Herman, Arthur&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1999&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Free Press&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-684-83625-4}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = December 19, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 16747&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1952&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The Devin-Adair Company&lt;br /&gt;
 | id = ASIN B0007DRBZ2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John S. Service]], U.S. State Department;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Accused by McCarthy of being a security and loyalty risk. Between the years of 1942 and 1945, Service submitted memos to the U.S. State Department supporting the Chinese Communists and Mao and advocated that the U.S. destroy [[Chiang Kai-shek]]. According to Senator McCarthy, &amp;quot;Service was named by the U.S. Ambassador to China as one of the men who was serving the cause of Communism in China. He asked the President to remove Service. He said that this man's actions are not good for the United States, they are good for Russia. While in China, Service, in secret recommendations to the State Department, urged that the Communists were the only hope for China. On June 6, 1945, Service was arrested by the F.B.I. for, &amp;quot;having transmitted, without authority, classified documents to the editors of ''Amerasia'', a Communist magazine&amp;quot;. Service had in effect turned over to a known Communist, not only State Department documents, but also secret military information. In December of 1951, Service was fired from the U.S. State Department, &amp;quot;as a result of an adverse finding as to his security qualifications by the Loyalty Review Board of the Civil Service Commission.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2 }}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Klehr, Harvey and Radosh, Ronald&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1996&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = The Amerasia Spy Case: Prelude to McCarthyism &lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = The University of North Carolina Press &lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-80782-245-0}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Harlow Shapley]], U.S. State Department appointee to UNESCO, Chairman of the National Council of Arts, Sciences, and Professions;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Shapley joined at least six Communist front groups during the period of 1939-1941. By the time McCarthy had presented Shapley's case to the Tydings Committee, Shapley was a member of at least 21 Communist front organizations, eight of them listed on the Attorney General's list. McCarthy's documentation clearly showed that Shapley remained associated with at least ten of these groups even after they were exposed and officially cited as subversive by multiple legislative investigating committees. In March 1949, at the &amp;quot;Waldorf Peace Conference&amp;quot;, Shapley was Chairman of the National Council of Arts, Sciences, and Professions, of which even President Truman denounced as a &amp;quot;tool for Russia and a sounding board for Communist propaganda&amp;quot;. Even so, Secretary of State Dean Achesson appointed Shapley as a representative of the U.S. and the U.S. State Department at UNESCO.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
So, despite even Truman's concerns, the State Department appointed yet another clear security risk. As Buckley states in his book, &amp;quot;...a Rider to the Appropriations Act forbade the paying of funds to a person actively affiliated with any organization on the Attorney General's list. And Shapley, according to the evidence before the Tydings Committee, clearly was such a person.&amp;quot; As usual, the Tydings Committee ignored the facts and only made mention of Shapley's limited association with the State Department. Once again, McCarthy proved his case but was brushed aside by the Tydings Committee.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Herman, Arthur&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1999&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Free Press&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-684-83625-4}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = February 20, 1950&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 1973&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[William T. Stone]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #46 and Lee list #54;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Accused by McCarthy as a security/loyalty risk, Stone is McCarthy's Case Number 46. As early as 1946, the Bannerman Security Screening Board of the State Department concluded that Stone should be &amp;quot;terminated&amp;quot;, that Stone's &amp;quot;continued presence in the Department is embarrassing...that he be given an opportunity to resign&amp;quot; and failing to do so should result in his forced termination &amp;quot;under Civil Service Rule 3.&amp;quot; The State Department failed to act on this recommendation and Stone continued working in the State Department. Stone was on the Communist controlled editorial board of ''Amerasia'' magazine, recommended fellow ''Amerasia'' members to jobs with the U.S. State Department, informed Venona identified Communist and espionage operative, [[Greg Silvermaster|Nathan Gregory Silvermaster]] of an adverse security report concerning Silvermaster, was constantly under investigation as a security/loyalty risk, and was eventually given the opportunity to resign, which he did in 1952.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Frances M. Tuchser, U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #6 and Lee list #6;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Just like Arpad Erdos, Gertrude Cameron, Nelson Chipchin, John Tipton Fishburn, Stella Gordon, Myron Victor Hunt, and Franz Leopold Neumann, on August 9, 1951, Senator McCarthy listed Tuchser as being one of the individuals that he had given to the Tydings Committee a year earlier. McCarthy submitted to the Senate, Tuchser, as yet another example of a clear security risk who was currently in the loyalty-security channels in the State Department. There was no explanation from the State Department as to why Tuchser remained in loyalty-security channels for such a lengthy period of time. In the meantime, Tuchser, like Cameron, Fishburn, Chipchin, Erdos, Gordon, Hunt, and Neumann, was able to carry on her activities despite concerns about her loyalty and security clearance.&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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 | last = McCarthy&lt;br /&gt;
 | first = Joseph &lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1953&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-87968-308-2}}&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Congressional Record,&lt;br /&gt;
 | date = August 9, 1951&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = Page 9708&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = U. S. Government Printing Office}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[John Carter Vincent]], U.S. State Department; McCarthy's Case #2 and Lee list #52;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
One of McCarthy's numbered cases given to the Tydings Committee. During his tenure as chief of the Division of Chinese Affairs, Vincent played an important role in hastening Mao's conquest of China. The McCarran Committee concluded that &amp;quot;over a period of years, John Carter Vincent was the principal fulcrum of [[Institute of Pacific Relations|IPR]] pressures and influence in the State Department.&amp;quot; [[Louis F. Budenz]] testified in the summer of 1951 that Vincent was a member of the Communist Party. In December 1952, the Civil Service Loyalty Review Board found reasonable doubt regarding Vincent's loyalty. In 1953, [[John Foster Dulles|Secretary Dulles]] requested Vincent's resignation.&lt;br /&gt;
({{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
 | last = Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent&lt;br /&gt;
 | year = 1954, 1995 Printing&lt;br /&gt;
 | title = McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning&lt;br /&gt;
 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Zablodowsky]], U.S. State Department &amp;amp; Director of the United Nations Publishing Division. McCarthy's Case #103;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Zablodowsky was McCarthy's Case Number 103. Zablodowsky worked in the State Department and later as Director of the United Nations Publishing Division. He admitted to being a member of an espionage ring in 1936 after [[Whittaker Chambers]], on October 23, 1952, gave testimony before the McCarran Committee regarding Zablodowsky's activities. &lt;br /&gt;
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 | publisher = Regnery Publishing Inc.&lt;br /&gt;
 | isbn = 0-89526-472-2}})&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;br /&gt;
==Attacks on McCarthy==&lt;br /&gt;
One of the most prominent attacks on Senator McCarthy was an episode of the TV documentary series ''See It Now'', hosted by [[Edward R. Murrow]], which was broadcast on March 9, 1954.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Murrow, Edward R. (May 31, 2005). [http://www.honors.umd.edu/HONR269J/archive/Murrow540309.html ''The Edward R. Murrow: The McCarthy Years'']. New Video Group.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; By the time Murrow produced his &amp;quot;See It Now&amp;quot; assault on Senator McCarthy in 1954, the senator had been under almost constant vicious attack for four years. According to McCarthy biographer Arthur Herman, Murrow and his staff had spent two months carefully editing film clips to portray McCarthy in the worst possible light. There were no clips showing McCarthy in a professional manner. Despite Murrow's claims, this &amp;quot;was not a report at all but instead a full-scale assault, employing exactly the same techniques of 'partial truth and innuendo' that critics accused McCarthy of using.&amp;quot;  The episode consisted largely of clips of McCarthy in the most unflattering context, including &amp;quot;belching and picking his nose&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cite book&lt;br /&gt;
  | last = Herman&lt;br /&gt;
  | first = Arthur&lt;br /&gt;
  | title = Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator&lt;br /&gt;
  | publisher = Free Press&lt;br /&gt;
  | date = 1999&lt;br /&gt;
  | pages = page 253&lt;br /&gt;
  | isbn = 0-684-83625-4 }}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In these clips, McCarthy accuses the [[Democratic Party]] of &amp;quot;twenty years of treason&amp;quot; because of the Democratic Party's concessions to the [[Soviet Union]] at the [[Yalta conference]] and [[Potsdam conference]], describes the [[American Civil Liberties Union]] as &amp;quot;listed as 'a front for, and doing the work of,' the Communist Party,&amp;quot; and berates General Zwicker for Zwicker's claim that he would protect any other general who promotes Communists within the military. Murrow also portrays a Pentagon coding room employee, [[Annie Lee Moss]] as an innocent victim of McCarthy even though it was later established that the FBI had warned the Army and the Civil Service Commission about her [[Communist Party]] connection.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Herman, pages 333-337&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
However, even some McCarthy critics were outraged by this one-sided presentation. Consistent McCarthy critic, John Cogley of ''[[Commonweal]]'', &amp;quot;sharply attacked Murrow and his producers for their distorted summary and selected use of video clips.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Herman, p. 253&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Cogley commented that a different selection of footage could have easily portrayed McCarthy in an extremely positive light and then further warned against the misuse of television in this fashion. He and another McCarthy critic from the ''Saturday Review'' agreed that it &amp;quot;was not a proud moment for television journalism&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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  | last = Lately&lt;br /&gt;
  | first = Thomas&lt;br /&gt;
  | title = When Even Angels Wept&lt;br /&gt;
  | publisher = Morrow&lt;br /&gt;
  | date = 1973&lt;br /&gt;
  | pages = page 466&lt;br /&gt;
  | isbn = 0-688-00148-3}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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To counter the negative publicity, McCarthy appeared on ''See It Now'' on April 6, 1954, and presented his case in order to clarify the misconceptions that Murrow had televised. McCarthy countered that his committee, &amp;quot;has forced out of government, and out of important defense plants, Communists engaged in the Soviet conspiracy.&amp;quot; McCarthy went on to say, &amp;quot;For example, 238 witnesses were examined [in] public session; 367 witnesses examined [in] executive session; 84 witnesses refused to testify as to Communist activities on the ground that, if they told the truth, they might go to jail; twenty-four witnesses with Communist backgrounds have been discharged from jobs [in] which they were handling secret, top-secret, confidential material, individuals who were exposed before our committee.&amp;quot; McCarthy also exposed Murrow's left-wing background and previous associations with Communist organizations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Murrow, Edward R. (May 31, 2005). [http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/murrowmccarthy2.html ''The Edward R. Murrow: The McCarthy Years'']. New Video Group.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The Murrow report, together with the televised Army-McCarthy hearings of the same year, and four years of consistent anti-McCarthy media reporting were the major causes of a nationwide popular opinion backlash against McCarthy. However, well-known broadcaster Eric Sevareid said the Murrow assault &amp;quot;came very late in the day.... The youngsters read back, and they think only one person in broadcasting and the press stood up to McCarthy, and this has made a lot of people feel very upset, including me, because that program came awfully late.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sevareid, Eric (January 1978).  CBS.  Reprinted in Bates, Michael M. (November 15, 2005). [http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/bates/051115 ''Murrow, McCarthy, and the media'']. Renew America.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even Murrow discounted his role in the decline of Senator McCarthy's popularity. Murrow stated, &amp;quot;My God, I didn't do anything. (''Times'' columnist) Scotty Reston and lot of guys have been writing like this, saying the same things, for months, for years. We're bringing up the rear.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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  | date = 1981&lt;br /&gt;
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Nevertheless, despite the deceptive nature of the ''See It Now'' program and the late date in which it appears,  anti-McCarthy historians have credited and celebrated Murrow as playing a major role in damaging Senator McCarthy's campaign to remove security risks from the U.S. government.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Senate opposition to McCarthy==&lt;br /&gt;
While over the previous few years, Senator McCarthy had withstood countless biased and unsubstantiated attacks by [[Liberals]], [[Communists]], etc., who sought to prevent him from damaging their causes any further; the organized and co-ordinated effort between the two groups to remove McCarthy from his Chairmanship and officially condemn him began in March 1954.&lt;br /&gt;
===Senate opposition===&lt;br /&gt;
On March 9, 1954 a fellow conservative and anti-communist [[Republican]] Senator, [[Ralph E. Flanders]] of [[Vermont]], gave a speech criticizing what he felt was Senator McCarthy’s &amp;quot;misdirection of our efforts at fighting communism” and his role in “the loss of respect for us in the world at large.” Flanders felt the nation should pay more attention looking outwards at the “alarming world-wide advance of Communist power” that would leave the United States and Canada as “the last remnants of the free world.” &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple refereeces:&lt;br /&gt;
* Flanders, Ralph E. (March 9, 1954).  &amp;quot;Activities of Senator McCarthy&amp;amp;mdash;The world crisis&amp;quot;.  ''Proceedings and Debates of the 83rd Congress, Second Session&amp;amp;mdash;Congressional Record'' (Washington, D.C.:  Government Printing Office).&lt;br /&gt;
* Flanders, Ralph E. (1961).  ''Senator from Vermont'' (Boston: Little, Brown), pp. 255-257.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Eisenhower Administration]] cabinet officials told Flanders to “lay off,” while President Eisenhower sent Flanders a brief note of appreciation for his speech, but did not otherwise confer with him or explicitly support him.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a June 1, 1954 speech, Flanders emphasized how the Soviet Union was winning military successes in Asia without risking its own resources or men, and said this nation was witnessing &amp;quot;another example of economy of effort...in the conquest of this country for communism.&amp;quot; He added, &amp;quot;One of the characteristic elements of communist and fascist tyranny is at hand as citizens are set to spy upon each other.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Flanders told the Senate that McCarthy's &amp;quot;anti-Communism so completely parallels that of [[Adolf Hitler]] as to strike fear into the hearts of any defenseless minority&amp;quot;; he accused McCarthy of spreading &amp;quot;division and confusion&amp;quot; and saying, &amp;quot;Were the Junior Senator from Wisconsin in the pay of the Communists he could not have done a better job for them.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On June 11, 1954 Flanders introduced a resolution charging McCarthy “with unbecoming conduct&amp;quot; and calling for his removal from his committee chairmanship. Upon the advice of Senators John Sherman Cooper and [[J. William Fulbright]] and legal assistance from the [[National Committee for an Effective Congress]], a liberal organization, he modified his resolution to “bring it in line with previous actions of censure.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After introducing his censure motion, Flanders had no active role in the ensuing Watkins Committee hearings. Flanders bore McCarthy no personal animosity and reported that McCarthy accepted his invitation to join him at lunch after the hearings had taken place.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Flanders, pages = 267-268&lt;br /&gt;
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===Watkins Committee===&lt;br /&gt;
Ultimately, McCarthy was accused of 46 different counts of allegedly improper conduct and another special committee was set up, under the chairmanship of Senator [[Arthur Watkins]], to study and evaluate the charges. This was to be the fifth investigation of Senator McCarthy in five years. This committee opened hearings on August 31, 1954. After two months of hearings and deliberations, the Watkins Committee recommended that McCarthy be censured on only two of the original 46 counts. The committee exonerated McCarthy on all substantive charges.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.xmission.com/~nccs/newsletter/nov05nl.html 44 of the 46 charges were dropped]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On November 8, 1954, a special session of the Senate convened to debate the two charges. The charges to be debated and voted on were: 1) That Senator McCarthy had &amp;quot;failed to cooperate&amp;quot; in 1952 with the Senate Subcommitee on Privileges and Elections that was looking into certain aspects of his private and political life in connection with a resolution for his expulsion from the Senate; and 2) That in conducting a senatorial inquiry, Senator McCarthy had &amp;quot;intemperately abused&amp;quot; General Ralph Zwicker.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Zwicker count was dropped by the full Senate on the grounds that McCarthy's conduct was arguably &amp;quot;induced&amp;quot; by Zwicker's own behavior. Many senators felt that the Army had shown contempt for committee chairman McCarthy by disregarding his letter of February 1, 1954 and honorably discharging Irving Peress the next day. So, for this reason, the Senate concluded that McCarthy's conduct toward Zwicker on February 18 was justified.&lt;br /&gt;
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Therefore, the Zwicker count was dropped at the last minute and was replaced with this substitute charge: 2) That Senator McCarthy, by characterizing the Watkins Committee as the &amp;quot;unwitting handmaiden&amp;quot; of the Communist Party and by describing the special Senate session as a &amp;quot;lynch party&amp;quot; and a &amp;quot;lynch bee,&amp;quot; had &amp;quot;acted contrary to senatorial ethics and tended to bring the Senate into dishonor and disrepute, to obstruct the constitutional processes of the Senate, and to impair its dignity.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/facts/democrac/60.htm Censure of Senator Joseph McCarthy] (1954) The United States Department of State.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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On December 2, 1954, even though more than a dozen senators told McCarthy that they did not want to vote against him but had to do so because of the enormous pressure being put on them by the [[Eisenhower Administration]] and by leaders of both political parties, the Senate voted to &amp;quot;condemn&amp;quot; Senator Joseph McCarthy on both counts by a vote of 67 to 22. The Democrats voted unanimously in favor of condemnation and the Republicans split evenly.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Resolution condemns McCarthy===&lt;br /&gt;
The resolution condemning Senator McCarthy has been criticized as a ridiculous attempt to silence the strongest voice in the Senate investigating security and loyalty risks in the U.S. government. When examined closely, the two counts used in condemning McCarthy were hopelessly flawed. &lt;br /&gt;
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In analyzing the first count, &amp;quot;failure to cooperate with the Subcommittee on Privileges and Elections&amp;quot;, the fact is that the subcommittee never subpoenaed McCarthy, but only &amp;quot;invited&amp;quot; him to testify. One senator and two staff members resigned from the subcommittee because of its dishonesty towards McCarthy. In its final report dated January 2, 1953, the subcommittee, stated that the matters under consideration &amp;quot;have become moot by reason of the 1952 election.&amp;quot; Up until this moment in U.S. history, no senator had ever been punished for something that had happened in a previous Congress or for declining an &amp;quot;invitation&amp;quot; to testify. Therefore, the first count was a complete fraud and nothing more than a trumped up charge in order to damage Senator McCarthy.&lt;br /&gt;
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The second count was even more flawed than the first. McCarthy was condemned for opinions he had expressed outside the Senate when he criticized the Watkins Committee and the special Senate session. In an editorial by David Lawrence in the June 7, 1957 issue of ''U.S. News &amp;amp; World Report'', other senators had accused McCarthy of lying under oath, accepting influence money, engaging in election fraud, making libelous and false statements, practicing blackmail, doing the work of the communists for them, and engaging in a questionable &amp;quot;personal relationship&amp;quot; with [[Roy Cohn]] and David Schine. However, these other Senators were not censured for acting &amp;quot;contrary to senatorial ethics&amp;quot; or for impairing the &amp;quot;dignity&amp;quot; of the Senate. Only Senator McCarthy would be held responsible for his words.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Drummey, James J. (May 11, 1987). [http://www.jbs.org/node/632 ''The Real McCarthy Record'']. The New American.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Final years==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:CapitolStepsSenatorMcCarthy.jpg|thumb|right|250px|The flag-draped coffin containing the body of Senator McCarthy is carried up the steps of the U.S. Capitol for funeral services in the Senate chamber after an earlier service at St. Matthew's Cathedral, May 6, 1957. Photograph courtesy of [http://www.apl.org/history/mccarthy/capitol_steps.html ''The Post-Crescent'']]]&lt;br /&gt;
Senator McCarthy's power and clout to continue the search for Communists in positions of power in America was severely curtailed. After the Republicans lost control of the Senate in 1954, McCarthy, now a member of the minority Party, had to depend on public speeches to continue his campaign of warning the American people to the danger of Communism. He did this in a number of important addresses during those two and a half years. &lt;br /&gt;
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In January 1957, McCarthy and his wife, Jean, adopted a baby girl and named her, Tierney. Unfortunately, several months later, McCarthy died of acute [[hepatitis]], likely brought on by his lifelong struggle with alcoholism, in Bethesda Naval Hospital on May 2, 1957, at the age of 48.&lt;br /&gt;
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McCarthy was given a state funeral attended by 70 senators. McCarthy was the first senator in 17 years to have funeral services in the Senate chamber. Thousands of people viewed the body in Washington D.C. and it is estimated more than 30,000 people from Wisconsin filed through St. Mary's Church in the senator's hometown of Appleton, Wisconsin, where the clergy performed a Solemn Pontifical Requiem before more than 100 priests and 2,000 others. Three senators, George Malone, William E. Jenner, and Herman Welker, had flown from Washington D.C. to Appleton on the plane carrying McCarthy's casket. [[Robert Kennedy]] attended the funeral in Wisconsin. McCarthy was buried in St. Mary's Parish Cemetery in Appleton and was survived by his wife, Jean, and their adopted daughter, Tierney.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Retrospective views on McCarthy==&lt;br /&gt;
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* In her popular book, ''Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism'', [[Ann Coulter]] said of McCarthy: &lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;A half century later, when the only people who call themselves Communists are harmless cranks, it is difficult to grasp the importance of McCarthy's crusade. But there's a reason 'Communist' now sounds about as threatening as 'monarchist' -- and it's not because of intrepid ''New York Times'' editorials denouncing McCarthy and praising Harvard educated Soviet spies. McCarthy made it a disgrace to be a Communist. Domestic Communism could never recover.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Coulter, Ann (2004). ''Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism''. Three Rivers Press. pg. 33. ISBN 1-400-05032-4.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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When Ann Coulter asked [[Fox News]]’ [[Bill O'Reilly]] to identify a McCarthy-tormented innocent, O'Reilly responded with [[Dalton Trumbo]], one of [[House Un-American Activities Committee]]'s (HUAC) “Hollywood Ten”, not realizing [[HUAC]] investigated CPUSA infiltration in Hollywood and called “the Hollywood Ten” of writers, directors and producers to testify in 1947. McCarthy did not start his crusade against Communism until 1950.&lt;br /&gt;
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* In 1953-54, McCarthy had been investigating lax security in the top secret facility at [[Ft. Monmouth]], New Jersey.  He was attacked by [[liberals]] and [[Communists]] on the grounds that there were no security problems at Ft. Monmouth. Years later, in addressing the reason why the U.S. Army's top-secret operations at Fort Monmouth were quietly moved to Arizona, Senator [[Barry Goldwater]], in his 1979 book ''With no apologies: The personal and political memoirs of United States Senator Barry M. Goldwater'', Goldwater stated:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;Carl Hayden, who in January 1955 became chairman of the powerful Appropriations Committee of the United States Senate, told me privately Monmouth had been moved because he and other members of the majority Democratic Party were convinced security at Monmouth had been penetrated. They didn't want to admit that McCarthy was right in his accusations. Their only alternative was to move the installation from New Jersey to a new location in Arizona.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Goldwater, Barry M. (1979). ''With no apologies: The personal and political memoirs of United States Senator Barry M. Goldwater''. Morrow. ISBN 0-688-03547-7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even though McCarthy's investigations proved that his suspicions were right, for many years afterwards and continue to this day, liberals have spread the falsehood that McCarthy had found nothing at Fort Monmouth.&lt;br /&gt;
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* Before the 1989 release of [[Carl Bernstein]]'s book, ''Loyalties: A Son's Memoir'', Albert Bernstein, Carl's father, expressed dismay at the revelations that the book would make regarding Communist infiltration of the U.S. government and other sectors of American society. Albert Bernstein stated:&lt;br /&gt;
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::&amp;quot;You're going to prove [Sen. Joseph] McCarthy was right, because all he was saying is that the system was loaded with Communists. And he was right. ... I'm worried about the kind of book you're going to write and about cleaning up McCarthy. The problem is that everybody said he was a liar; you're saying he was right. ... I agree that the Party was a force in the country.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Brennan, Phil (April 23, 2003). [http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/22/225916.shtml ''The Left’s Lies That Never Die'']. NewsMax.com. Retrieved on 2007-06-20.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Both Albert Bernstein and Sylvia Bernstein, Carl's mother, had both been Communists since the 1940s. Albert Bernstein was a Union activist, while Sylvia Bernstein was a secretary for the War Department in the 1930s and, during the [[Clinton Administration]], volunteered in the White House, answering letters that were addressed to [[Hillary Clinton]]. During the 1950s, Sylvia Bernstein invoked the Fifth Amendment to avoid revealing her party ties to Congress but worked openly in assisting convicted spies [[Julius Rosenberg]] and Ethel Rosenberg, who were executed in 1953 for espionage.&lt;br /&gt;
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It should be pointed out how many people followed McCarthy on his crusade, and that many pro-Americans still do.  The majority of the sources that discredited Senator McCarthy originated from a large assault by the liberal media that managed to sway the majority of Americans against him at that time.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Quotes ==&lt;br /&gt;
*  &amp;quot;if liberals were merely stupid, the laws of probability would dictate that at least some of their decisions would serve America's interests.&amp;quot; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=0hlSo3QC27oC&amp;amp;pg=PA72&amp;amp;dq=if+liberals+were+merely+stupid,+the+laws+of+probability+would+dictate+that+at+least+some+of+their+decisions+would+serve+America's+interests.&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;ei=pyVjTdetBYH68AbDnbWKDA&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;oi=book_result&amp;amp;ct=result&amp;amp;resnum=1&amp;amp;ved=0CCcQ6AEwAA A If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans - Page 72, Ann Coulter, 2008]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Bibliography==&lt;br /&gt;
* Buckley, William F. ''McCarthy and His Enemies'' (1954), a major statement by a young conservative&lt;br /&gt;
* Crosby, S.J., Donald F. ''God, Church and Flag: Senator Joseph R. McCarthy and the Catholic Church, 1950-1957'' (1978). [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=104464047 online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
* Fried, Richard M. ''Nightmare in Red: The McCarthy Era in Perspective'' 1990 [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=79027083 online edition][[File:Joe-McC.jpg|thumb|250px]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Griffith, Robert. ''The Politics of Fear: Joseph R. McCarthy and the Senate'' 1987 [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=81177256 online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
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* Latham, Earl ''Communist Controversy in Washington: From the New Deal to McCarthy.'' (1969). &lt;br /&gt;
* O'Brien, Michael. ''McCarthy and McCarthyism in Wisconsin.'' (1981)&lt;br /&gt;
* Oshinsky, David M. ''A Conspiracy So Immense: The World of Joe McCarthy'' (1983), standard biography [http://www.amazon.com/Conspiracy-So-Immense-World-McCarthy/dp/019515424X/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964395&amp;amp;sr=8-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Reeves, Thomas C. ''The Life and Times of Joe McCarthy: A Biography'' (1982), standard biography by a leading conservative scholar&lt;br /&gt;
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* Klehr, Harvey, John Earl Hayes and Fridrikh Igorevich Firsov. ''The Secret World of American Communism'' (1995) [http://www.amazon.com/Secret-World-American-Communism-Annals/dp/0300068557/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964654&amp;amp;sr=1-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Klehr, Harvey,  and Ronald Radosh. ''The Amerasia Spy Case: Prelude to McCarthyism'' (1996), suggests that Soviet spying in the postwar United States was extensive and that in the case of the arrest of the editors of the ''Amerasia'' magazine, and others, in 1945, naive liberals in the Justice and State departments blocked efforts to bring the spy ring to justice. [http://www.amazon.com/Amerasia-Spy-Case-Prelude-McCarthyism/dp/0807822450/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964692&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
*  Lipset, Seymour Martin, and Earl Raab. ''The Politics of Unreason: Right Wing Extremism in America, 1790-1970'' (1970) (Chap. 6 &amp;quot;The 1950's: McCarthyism&amp;quot;) [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=65264140&amp;amp;oplinknum=16 online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
* Morgan, Ted.  ''Reds: McCarthyism in Twentieth-Century America.'' 2003. 685 pp.  [http://www.amazon.com/Reds-McCarthyism-Twentieth-Century-Ted-Morgan/dp/B000I0RTS8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964728&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* O'Reilly, Kenneth. ''Hoover and the Un-Americans: The FBI, HUAC, and the Red Menace'' 1983&lt;br /&gt;
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* Schrecker, Ellen. ''Many Are the Crimes: McCarthyism in America'' (1998) [http://www.amazon.com/Many-Are-Crimes-McCarthyism-America/dp/0316774707/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964838&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Schrecker, Ellen. ''The Age of McCarthyism: A Brief History with Documents.'' (2d ed. 2002). 308 pp.  [http://www.amazon.com/Age-Mccarthyism-History-Documents-Bedford/dp/0312294255/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964838&amp;amp;sr=1-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Tanenhaus, Sam. ''Whittaker Chambers: A Biography'' (1998) [http://www.amazon.com/Whittaker-Chambers-Biography-Library-Paperbacks/dp/0375751459/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964901&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Theoharis, Athan.  ''Chasing Spies: How the FBI Failed in Counterintelligence but Promoted the Politics of McCarthyism in the Cold War Years.'' (2002). 307 pp. [http://www.amazon.com/Chasing-Spies-Counter-Intelligence-Promoted-McCarthyism/dp/1566634202/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964932&amp;amp;sr=1-3 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Weinstein, Allen, and Vassiliev, Alexander. ''The Haunted Wood: Soviet Espionage in America: The Stalin Era'' (1999) [http://www.amazon.com/Haunted-Wood-Espionage-America-Paperbacks/dp/0375755365/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205964983&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Media issues===&lt;br /&gt;
*  Doherty, Thomas. ''Cold War, Cool Media: Television, McCarthyism, and American Culture'' (2003) [http://www.amazon.com/Cold-War-Cool-Medium-McCarthyism/dp/0231129521/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205965016&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Dussere, Erik. &amp;quot;Subversion in the Swamp: Pogo and the Folk in the McCarthy Era.&amp;quot; ''Journal of American Culture''2003 26(1): 134-141. Issn: 1542-7331 Fulltext: in Ebsco &lt;br /&gt;
* Murphy, Brenda.  ''Congressional Theatre: Dramatizing McCarthyism on Stage, Film, and Television.'' (1999). 310 pp. [http://www.amazon.com/Congressional-Theatre-Dramatizing-McCarthyism-Television/dp/0521891663/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1205965050&amp;amp;sr=1-1 excerpt and text search] &lt;br /&gt;
* Sbardellati, John and Shaw, Tony. &amp;quot;Booting a Tramp: Charlie Chaplin, the FBI, and the Construction of the Subversive Image in Red Scare America.&amp;quot; ''Pacific Historical Review'' 2003 72(4): 495-530. Issn: 0030-8684 [http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0030-8684(200311)72%3A4%3C495%3ABATCCT%3E2.0.CO%3B2-I in JSTOR]&lt;br /&gt;
* Strout, Lawrence N.  ''Covering McCarthyism: How the Christian Science Monitor Handled Joseph R. McCarthy, 1950-1954.'' 1999. 171 pp.  [http://www.questia.com/library/book/covering-mccarthyism-how-the-christian-science-monitor-handled-joseph-r-mccarthy-1950-1954-by-lawrence-n-strout.jsp online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Primary sources===&lt;br /&gt;
* Joe McCarthy. ''Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951'' U. S. Government Printing Office, 1953 [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=9034820 online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
* Joe McCarthy. ''McCarthyism: The Fight for America'' 1952 [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=97298720 online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
* Fried, ed. Albert. ''McCarthyism: The Great American Red Scare: a Documentary History'' 1997 [http://www.questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&amp;amp;d=54810194 online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
* Schrecker, Ellen W. &amp;quot;Archival Sources for the Study of McCarthyism,&amp;quot; ''The Journal of American History,'' Vol. 75, No. 1 (Jun., 1988), pp.&amp;amp;nbsp;197–208 [http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0021-8723(198806)75%3A1%3C197%3AASFTSO%3E2.0.CO%3B2-T at JSTOR]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anti-Communist]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[David Greenglass]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Amerasia]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[William Henry Taylor]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Anatoli Gorsky]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Annie Lee Moss]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Morton Sobell]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Soviet spies in America (1921-1948)]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Larry McDonald]] Congressional anti-communist successor&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Notes==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
#Bates, Michael M. (November 15, 2005). [http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/bates/051115 Murrow, McCarthy, and the media]. Renew America.&lt;br /&gt;
#Bayley, Edwin R. (1981). ''Joe McCarthy and the Press''. University of Wisconsin Press. ISBN 0-688-00148-3.&lt;br /&gt;
#Brennan, Phil (April 23, 2003). [http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/4/22/225916.shtml ''The Left’s Lies That Never Die'']. NewsMax.com.&lt;br /&gt;
#Buckley, Jr., William F. and Bozell, L. Brent (1954, 1995 Printing). ''McCarthy &amp;amp; His Enemies, The Record And Its Meaning''. Regnery Publishing Inc. ISBN 0-89526-472-2.&lt;br /&gt;
#Cohn, Roy (1968). ''McCarthy''. The New American Library, Inc. ASIN B000KIR8FC.&lt;br /&gt;
#[http://tucnak.fsv.cuni.cz/~calda/Documents/1950s/Communist_54.html Communist Control Act of 1954] U.S. Statutes at Large, Public Law 637, Chp. 886, p.&amp;amp;nbsp;775-780. &lt;br /&gt;
#Coulter, Ann (2004). ''Treason: Liberal Treachery from the Cold War to the War on Terrorism''. Three Rivers Press. ISBN 1-400-05032-4.&lt;br /&gt;
#Drummey, James J. (May 11, 1987). [http://www.jbs.org/node/632 ''The Real McCarthy Record'']. The New American.&lt;br /&gt;
#Evans, Medford (1970). ''The Assassination of Joe McCarthy''. Western Islands. ISBN 0-88279-217-2.&lt;br /&gt;
#[http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/McCarthy_Transcripts.htm Executive Sessions of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee On Investigations, Transcripts] (2003). U.S. Government Printing Office.&lt;br /&gt;
#Fox, Jr., John F., FBI Historian, (Presented at the 2005 Symposium on Cryptologic History, Washington, D.C., 10/27/2005). [http://www.fbi.gov/libref/historic/history/foxpaper.htm ''In the Enemy’s House: Venona and the Maturation of American Counterintelligence'']. U.S. Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation.&lt;br /&gt;
#Goldwater, Barry M. (1979). ''With no apologies: The personal and political memoirs of United States Senator Barry M. Goldwater''. Morrow. ISBN 0-688-03547-7.&lt;br /&gt;
#Haynes, John Earl and Klehr, Harvey (2003). ''In Denial: Historians, Communism, &amp;amp; Espionage''. Encounter Books. ISBN 1-59403-088-X.&lt;br /&gt;
#Herman, Arthur (1999). ''Joseph McCarthy: Reexamining the Life and Legacy of America's Most Hated Senator''. Free Press. ISBN 0-684-83625-4.&lt;br /&gt;
#Kazin, Michael (1998). ''The Populist Persuasion: An American History''. Cornell University Press. ISBN 0-801-48558-4.&lt;br /&gt;
#Lately, Thomas (1973). ''When Even Angels Wept''. Morrow. page 466. ISBN 0-688-00148-3.&lt;br /&gt;
#McCarthy, Joseph (1961). ''America's Retreat from Victory: The Story of George Catlett Marshall''. American Opinion (Reprint Series). ASIN B0007EKWVQ.&lt;br /&gt;
#McCarthy, Joseph (1953). ''Major Speeches and Debates of Senator Joe McCarthy Delivered in the United States Senate, 1950-1951''. U. S. Government Printing Office. ISBN 0-87968-308-2.&lt;br /&gt;
#McCarthy, Joseph (1952). ''McCarthyism: The Fight for America: Documented Answers to Questions Asked by Friend and Foe''. The Devin-Adair Company. ASIN B0007DRBZ2.&lt;br /&gt;
#[http://www.english.uiuc.edu/maps/mccarthy/telegram.htm McCarthy to Truman 11 February 1950], telegram.&lt;br /&gt;
#Morgan, T. (Nov./Dec. 2003).  ''Judge Joe:  How the youngest judge in Wisconsin's history became the country's most notorious senator''.  Legal Affairs.&lt;br /&gt;
#[http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/%22Operations_of_the_MGB_Residency_at_New_York%2C_1944-45%22 Operations of the MGB Residency at New York, 1944-45]&lt;br /&gt;
#Reeves, Thomas C. (1997). ''The life and Times of Joe McCarthy: A Biography''. Madison Books. ISBN 1-56833-101-0.&lt;br /&gt;
#Rusher, William A. (1968). ''Special Counsel''. Arlington House. ASIN B0006BUY2M.&lt;br /&gt;
#Utley, Freda (1951). ''The China Story''. Chicago, H. Regnery Co. ASIN B00005VL2B. &lt;br /&gt;
#Wicker, Tom (2006). ''Shooting Star: The Brief Arc of Joe McCarthy''. Harcourt, Inc. ISBN 0-15101-082-X&lt;br /&gt;
#Woods, Randall Bennett (1995). ''Fulbright: A Biography''. Cambridge University Press. ISBN 0-521-48262-3.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/6315/victory.html America's Retreat From Victory], by Senator Joe McCarthy.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/bates/051115 ''Murrow, McCarthy, and the media'']. Renew America.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/generic/McCarthy_Transcripts.htm Executive Sessions of the Senate Permanent Subcommittee On Investigations, Transcripts]. (2003). U.S. Government Printing Office.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://foia.fbi.gov/venona/venona.pdf FBI Venona file]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://education-research.org/CSR/Holdings/Silvermaster/summaries.htm Silvermaster File Summaries]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://boomp3.com/m/91d184a59074 Joseph McCarthy: Address To The Chicago Irish Fellowship Club] (listen online)&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://foia.fbi.gov/foiaindex/mccarthy.htm Joseph McCarthy FBI FOIA File], 4,296 pages.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.marquette.edu/library/collections/archives/Mss/JRM/mss-JRM.html Joseph McCarthy Papers, Marquette University Library]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?print=yes&amp;amp;id=455 McCarthyism: Waging the Cold War in America], by M. Stanton Evans, ''Human Events'', 05/30/1997. Updated 05/08/2003.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.honors.umd.edu/HONR269J/archive/Murrow540309.html ''See It Now, Edward R. Murrow report on Senator McCarthy'']. (March 9, 1954). CBS-TV. Retrieved on 8/21/07.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.honors.umd.edu/HONR269J/archive/Murrow540406.html ''See It Now, Senator Joseph R. McCarthy's Reply to Edward R. Murrow'']. (April 6, 1954). CBS-TV. Retrieved on 8/21/07.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/resources/pdf/watt_interview_3.pdf Oral Interview with Ruth Young Watt], Chief Clerk, Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, 1948-1979. United States Senate Historical Office.  Retrieved from www.senate.gov 24 June 2007.&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Whales''' are marine mammals of the order [[Cetacea]], and a clear [[counterexample to the Theory of Evolution]].&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Description ==&lt;br /&gt;
Whales are separated into the toothed whales, ''Odontocetes'' (which includes [[dolphin]]s, [[porpoise]]s, [[narwhal]]s, beaked whales and [[sperm whale]]s), and the whalebone, or baleen, whales, also called ''Mysticetes''. The latter are mostly very large, which, instead of teeth, have baleen (whalebone) to filter small prey from the water; they are what people generally think of when the word whale is used. The whalebone whales include the rorquals - the [[blue whale]], fin whale, sei whale, Bryde's whale, [[minke whale]], and humpback whale; the [[grey whale]]; and the various [[right whale]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Although whales are famed for the massive size reached by some species, such as the blue whale (the largest animal to ever live), others are relatively small, like the pygmy right whale which grows to about 20 feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/PygmyRightWhale.htm] American Cetacean Society website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Though whales have many traits in common with fish (including fins and tails) they are [[classification system|classified]] as [[mammal]]s under the [[Linnaean taxonomy]] classification system because they breathe air and lactate. Whales have a number of remarkable features including:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* they decide when to breathe, rather than breathing unconsciously&lt;br /&gt;
* they sleep 8 hours a day, yet need to be conscious to breathe&lt;br /&gt;
* they can communicate with each other by making remarkably loud noises&lt;br /&gt;
* these extraordinary noises can travel for miles underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* the females nurse their calves while swimming underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* the males have a unique cooling system for their internal reproductive organs, involving the circulation of cooled blood from the extremities directly around the [[testes]] before returning to the [[heart]]&lt;br /&gt;
* whales, along with humans and horses, are some of the few mammal species that do not possess [[baculum]] (penile bone)&lt;br /&gt;
* mysticetes have two blow-holes, while odontocetes only have one&lt;br /&gt;
* the blow-holes pass air above water, yet resist intense pressure underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* they have massive brains, much larger than the brains of other mammals&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Taxonomy ==&lt;br /&gt;
Two distinct kinds of whales exist worldwide: toothed whales of the suborder Odontoceti, and whalebone, or baleen, whales of the suborder Mysticeti.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Baleen whales===&lt;br /&gt;
Mysticeti includes thirteen species in six genera, all chiefly characterized by the presence of plates of baleen hanging from their upper jaws inside their mouths.  These plates are used to filter small animals such as krill, or small shoaling fish (herring or mackerel).  To accommodate the baleen, as well as to catch enormous schools of krill and fish, these whales have huge mouths; the baleen in the bowhead (''Balaena mysticetus'') for example is up to ten feet in length.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Suborder Mysticeti: Baleen whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Balaenidae: Right whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Balaena''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Bowhead, or Greenland right whale, ''Balaena mysticetus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Eubalaena''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::North Atlantic right whale, ''Eubalaena glacialis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::North Pacific right whale, ''Eubalaena japonica''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Southern right whale, ''Eubalaena australis''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Balaenopteridae: Rorquals'''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Balaenopterinae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Balaenoptera''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Antarctic minke whale, ''Balaenoptera bonaerensis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Common minke whale, ''Balaenoptera acutorostrata''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Bryde's whale, ''Balaenoptera brydei''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Blue whale, ''Balaenoptera musculus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Fin whale, ''Balaenoptera physalus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sei whale, ''Balaenoptera borealis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Megapterinae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Megaptera''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Humpback whale, ''Megaptera novaeangliae''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Eschrichtiidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Eschrichtius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gray whale, ''Eschrichtius robustus''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Neobalaenidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Caperea''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy right whale, ''Caperea marginata''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
===Toothed whales===&lt;br /&gt;
Odontoceti comprises twenty-six species in ten genera, excluding the smaller dolphins and porpoises.  All possess conical teeth in one form or another, with some bearing rudimentary teeth only.  Only one species (sperm whale, ''Physeter macrocephalus'') reaches lengths of over sixty feet; several beaked whales are rarely over thirty feet, while the remaining species reach lengths less than that.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Suborder Odontoceti: Toothed whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Monodontidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Delphinapterus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Beluga, ''Delphinapterus leucas''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Monodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Narwhal, ''Monodon monoceros''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Physeteridae: Sperm whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Physeter''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sperm whale, ''Physeter macrocephalus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Kogia''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Dwarf sperm whale, ''Kogia sima''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy sperm whale, ''Kogia breviceps''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Ziphidae: Beaked whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Berardius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Arnoux's beaked whale, ''Berardius arnuxii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Baird's beaked whale, ''Berardius bairdii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Hyperoodontidae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Hyperoodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Northern bottlenose whale, ''Hyperoodon ampullatus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Southern bottlenose whale, ''Hyperoodon planifrons''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Indopacetus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Indo-Pacific beaked whale, ''Indopacetus pacificus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Mesoplodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Andrews' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon bowdoini''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Blainville's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon densirostris''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gervais' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon europaeus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ginkgo-toothed beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon ginkgodens''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gray's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon grayi''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Hector's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon hectori''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Hubbs' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon carlhubbsi''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Perrin's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon perrini''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon peruvianus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sowerby's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon bidens''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Spade-toothed whale, ''Mesoplodon traversii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Stejneger's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon stejnegeri''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Strap-toothed whale, ''Mesoplodon layardii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::True's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon mirus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Tasmacetus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Shepherd's beaked whale, ''Tasmacetus shepherdi''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Ziphius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Cuvier's beaked whale, ''Ziphius cavirostris''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family ''Delphinidae'''''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family ''Phocoenidae'''''&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
==Evolutionary claims==&lt;br /&gt;
The question of how whales and their relatives allegedly evolved from terrestrial [[mammal]]s has intrigued evolutionary biologists since [[Charles Darwin]]'s suggestion that they may have evolved from ancient mammals. He suggested that their development may have been started by something similar to a behavior observed in bears. &amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;In North America the black bear was seen . . . swimming for hours with widely open mouth, thus catching, like a whale, insects in the water. Even in so extreme a case as this, if the supply of insects were constant, and if better adapted competitors did not already exist in the country, I can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural selection, more and more aquatic in their structure and habits, with larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a whale.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Charles Darwin, [http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1228 Origin of species] 1st edition&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Evolutionary biologists estimate the last ancestor of whales and hippos lived about 25 million years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/lines/IAtransitional.shtml] UCLA Berkley Understanding Evolution for Teachers website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, with a more recent suggestion that modern whales and their relatives arose from ancient [[Artiodactyla|artiodactyls]] (even-toed ungulates such as [[deer]] and [[hippopotamus|hippopotami]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/41080/molecular_clock_divergence_estimates_and_the_fossil_record_of_cetartiodactyla/index.html] Theodore, JM (2004) Molecular Clock Divergence Estimates And The Fossil Record Of Cetartiodactyla '' The Journal Of Paleontology'' '''78''':39-44&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
More specifically, they believe that whales evolved from ''[[Pakicetus]]'' through ''Aetiocetus'', because of the similarities in their bone structure. For example, ''Pakicetus'' has nostrils at the front of its skull, ''Aetiocetus'' has nostrils in the middle of its skull, and the modern gray whale has nostrils at the top of its skull&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/lines_03]University of California, Berkeley, ''Understanding Evolution''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This kinship has been termed the whippo hypothesis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/pdfs/data/1999/15619/15619-10.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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This theory of cetacean origins contrasts with the [[Young earth creationism|young earth creationist]] position that whales were [[creation|created]] about 6000 years ago, ''before'' land animals&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sarfati, Jonathan [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3834/106/ Whale evolution?] ''Refuting Evolution'', Chapter 5.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Batten, Don, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1776 A whale of a tale?] ''Journal of Creation'' 8(1):2–3, April 1994.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Williams, Alexander, and Sarfati, Jonathan, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1862 Not at all like a whale], ''Creation'' 27(2):20–22, March 2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  The various theories regarding evolutionary origins, such as Darwin's &amp;quot;thought experiment&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-did-whales-evolve-73276956/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; about a bear-like ancestry, the modern &amp;quot;deer ancestry&amp;quot; theory, as well as the above ''Pakicetus'' to ''Aetiocetus'' to gray whale descent requires direct observation under the first step of the [[scientific method]].  To further compound the difficulties in the theory of evolution, it was recently discovered that rorqual whales possess a sensory organ at the front of their lower jaws, informing the brain of stresses and pressure of water when the mouth is open to collect food.  This organ, according to the demands of evolution, would have to appear at the same time as the following:&lt;br /&gt;
*an increase in size of the upper and lower jaws; &lt;br /&gt;
*a change in the lower jaw structure and the addition of chin grooves to allow the intake of large amounts of water; &lt;br /&gt;
*the addition of vibrissae (touch-sensitive organs) to detect krill;&lt;br /&gt;
*the addition of counter-current heat exchange organs within the tongue, preventing heat loss when feeding in arctic waters&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.icr.org/article/ways-that-whales-display-their-creator&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
Whales in their current form also appear suddenly in the fossil record, something that cannot be explained by current evolutionary science&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://creation.com/refuting-evolution-chapter-5-whale-evolution&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  With that sudden appearance is also the trait that cannot be explained by anything other than a deliberate act of creation: baleen filter plates.  Gray whales, right whales, and rorquals carry these filters; to do so according to evolution requires an intentional act, in this case a change in diet to smaller prey and the realization that it needs a filtering system to catch that prey&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creationstudies.org/articles/science/life-science/206-whales-lose-teeth&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  As it remains, the descent of whales from terrestrial ancestors according to evolution cannot be proved.&lt;br /&gt;
=== Whales and intelligent design theory criticism of evolutionary origins ===&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=591IqiNMd1k Killer Whales -- Zombie Science Author Explains a Fatal Challenge to Evolution] by biologist [[Jonathan Wells]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Whaling industry==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Bradford Icebound Whaling Ship.jpg|thumb|Bradford, Icebound Whaling Ship.]]&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Whaling]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Whales in literature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Bible ===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Bible quote|Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.''|book=Jonah|chap=1|verses=17|version=KJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The great fish that swallowed [[Jonah (prophet)|Jonah]] is often thought of as being a whale, although the translation of 'great fish' is not a precise designation of species but may indicate any physically large, ocean-going creature. The physical difficulty of having a human be swallowed by a whale and survive the intense pressure of diving, lack of air and acidic environment of the stomach, and the fact that the Bible says that God &amp;quot;prepared&amp;quot; the fish has led some to suggest the creature may be uniquely and specially prepared by [[God]] for the purpose. Alternatively, Jonah may have been simply protected by supernatural means.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whales are mentioned in three other places in the King James Version of the Bible:&lt;br /&gt;
* Genesis 1:21: &amp;quot;And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Job 7:12: &amp;quot;Am I a sea, or a whale, that thou settest a watch over me?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Ezekiel 32:2: &amp;quot;Son of man, take up a lamentation for Pharaoh king of Egypt, and say unto him, Thou art like a young lion of the nations, and thou art as a whale in the seas: and thou camest forth with thy rivers, and troubledst the waters with thy feet, and fouledst their rivers.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Fiction ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Arguably the most famous book about whales is [[Herman Melville]]'s ''[[Moby-Dick|Moby Dick]]'', about a whaling-ship captain obsessed with hunting down the sperm whale (Moby Dick) which had bitten off one of his legs.&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Orca]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dolphin]]&lt;br /&gt;
==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
* Carwardine, Mark. ''Whales &amp;amp; Dolphins'' (Smithsonian Handbooks) (2002) [http://www.amazon.com/Whales-Dolphins-Smithsonian-Handbooks-Carwardine/dp/0789489902/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1226789849&amp;amp;sr=1-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Creighton, Margaret S.  ''Rites and Passages: The Experience of American Whaling, 1830-1870.'' (1995). 233 pp.  [http://www.amazon.com/Rites-Passages-Experience-American-1830-1870/dp/0521484480/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1207603299&amp;amp;sr=8-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Dolin, Eric Jay. ''Leviathan: The History of Whaling in America'' (2007) 480 pp. [http://www.amazon.com/Leviathan-History-Eric-Jay-Dolin/dp/0393060578/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1207596886&amp;amp;sr=8-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Ellis, Richard.  ''Men and Whales.'' (1991). 542 pp.  &lt;br /&gt;
* Papastavrou, Vassili. ''Whale'' (DK Eyewitness Books) (2004) [http://www.amazon.com/Whale-Eyewitness-Books-Vassili-Papastavrou/dp/0756607396/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1226789849&amp;amp;sr=1-3 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Stoett, Peter J. ''The International Politics of Whaling'' (1997) [http://www.questia.com/read/57120862?title=The%20International%20Politics%20of%20Whaling online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
*Berta, Annalisa ''Return to the Sea: The Life and Evolutionary Times of Marine Mammals'' 2012 &lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>The Grapes of Wrath</title>
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&lt;div&gt;'''''The Grapes Of Wrath''''', is a novel written by [[John Steinbeck]], published in 1939. It chronicles the path of the Joad family from their [[Dust Bowl]] farm in [[Oklahoma]] to [[California]], where they are confronted by poverty, hunger, and death. It is considered by many to be one of the great American novels, and one of Steinbeck's best works.&lt;br /&gt;
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However, it is not without controversy: the book contains vulgar language and has been the subject of attempted removals from public schools and public libraries, most often by Christian parental groups. Also, it arguably contains [[Socialism|socialist]] themes, vilifying big banks and promoting labor unions.&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{welcome}}&lt;br /&gt;
:Many of your edits still read like they favor evolution, and many of the others simply look unnecessary. If someone wants to read the &amp;quot;mainstream&amp;quot; evolutionist perspective, they can simply go to the 95%-or-so of the websites that discuss these topics. As a Christian-conservative wiki, we discuss these topics from that standpoint, and many of your edits don't seem to follow that standard. Please remember that for the future, and regardless, thanks for your edits. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:44, 24 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Ok, I'll try to tone it down in the future. My goal here is mostly to make sure that refutations of evolution, etc. accurately represent what they're refuting. I do plan to continue editing sections related to these topics, but I will try not to contradict the tone of Conservapedia. Thank you very much for your advice, it means a lot.--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:50, 24 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Biblical scientific foreknowledge</title>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Newton.png|thumb|200px|alt=Isaac Newton, cornerstone of the scientific revolution, based his research on the scientific authority of the [[Bible]].|thumb|[[Portrait]] of [[Isaac Newton]], cornerstone of the [[scientific revolution]], based his research on the scientific authority of the Bible.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' is how the [[Bible]] shows a comprehension of [[science]] far ahead of its time. The Bible is a superb roadmap to future scientific discoveries. Unfortunately [[Bible denier]]s, including many [[Atheism|atheist]]s and [[evolution]]ists, refuse to read the Bible, and '''''their irrational [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|closed-mindedness]] against the Bible obstructs the advancement of science'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Book of Genesis]] gives [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge#Anesthesia|an example of anesthesia]] long before man discovered it in 1846.  And the underlying chaos and [[uncertainty]] in the physical world was explained in the Bible long before [[quantum mechanics]] confirmed it in the 1900s.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' has an additional benefit: it guides a more precise translation of verses that describe scientific-related events, such as the reference to the universe in [[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10]], and the changing of [[Essay:Water into Wine|water into wine]] at the wedding feast.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Geology==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Massive flooding===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheist scientists long opposed a [[young earth]] [[creation|created]] by [[God]] where cataclysmic flooding, such as the [[Great Flood]] described in the Bible, shaped the landscape. However, ample [[counterexamples to an old earth]] exist and the discovery in the Northwest of &amp;quot;giant ripple marks, 50 feet high and 200-500 feet apart&amp;quot; proved that a cataclysmic flood in the region had indeed occurred thousands of years ago. As a result, &amp;quot;[a]mong geologists, the concept of a catastrophic flood came to be universally accepted by the late 1950s.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iafi.org/floods.html The Ice Age Flood Institute reports on the massive floods in the Northwest.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continental drift===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Continental drift]] was  proposed by [[creationist]] Antonio Snider-Pellegrini in 1859 based on [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis 1:9-10]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c001.html Christian Answers explains Antonio Snider's divine inspiration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which states, {{cquote|And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.&lt;br /&gt;
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.}} Because land is no longer all in [[Pangaea|one place]], this implies that the continents have shifted over the six millennia to their current positions. [[Atheists]] and [[scientist]]s who hadn't seen the light of [[creationism]] were in [[liberal denial]] about this concept for a century, until finally accepting its truth. This is just more data that the Bible knew millennia before [[secular]] [[science]] caught up.&lt;br /&gt;
However, The Continents are still connected; under the ocean is land if you dry up the water. This interpretation of this verse is in error, the separation spoken of here is the waters under the sky (Firmament) and the water out in space (beyond the heavens). Comets prove this theory, as many of them contain ice, and today as much as 1% of terrestrial rain comes from extraterrestrial sources.{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}&lt;br /&gt;
The most likely reason for the current position and shape of the land mass is the Flood of Noah. Pangea does not work without flipping, shrinking, and sometimes removing countries entirely. Any Biblical statements of continents is in Genesis 10:25 when Peleg is mentioned &amp;quot;for in his days was the earth divided&amp;quot; this in particular refers to the separation of what today is Russia, Japan, and Alaska, when the oceans arose, and also to the division of the peoples by languages, who migrated together according to their language after the confusing of tongues at the tower of Babel, obviously the migration took place before the oceanic divide which led to the natives of the Far West. Everyone laughed at Columbus, not because they thought earth was flat, but because they had forgotten the Far West (America) was there, and they thought he didn't have nearly enough supplies or a big enough ship to go to Asia the long way around, and they would have been right if he didn't hit the Caribbean first by complete accident. Recent findings of biblical stone tablets, in Byzantine script prove that trade between Europe and the Far West was common prior to the dark age which began in 400 or 500 AD.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Underwater springs===&lt;br /&gt;
Only in modern times have scientists become aware of the enormous underwater springs feeding into the oceans, and the very deep valleys at the bottom of the oceans. However, the Bible repeatedly described this thousands of years earlier in [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 7|Genesis 7:11]], which states, {{cquote|In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.}} Again, in 2 Samuel 22:16, the Bible states that, {{cquote|And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.}}&lt;br /&gt;
And Job 38:16 “Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? Or hast thou walked in the search of the depths?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is ''obvious'' proof to all but [[liberals]] that the Bible had foreknowledge of subcrustal oceans, something the ancient Jews could not have possibly known, and thus proof of the Bible's God-given accuracy and divine nature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Agriculture==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Malthusianism===&lt;br /&gt;
Since Thomas [[Robert Malthus|Malthus's]] 1798 work, ''An Essay on the Principle of Population'', [[liberal]] [[intellectual]]s insisted that the world's population would grow faster than the [[food]] supply and result in mass starvation. However, there are examples in both the [[Old Testament|Old]]{{citation needed|date=September 2015}} and [[New Testament]]s{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}, as well as the example of [[William Bradford]] at Plymouth Colony,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book|last1=Bradford|first1=William|title=The History of Plimoth Plantation|date=1669|pages=135–136}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of the food supply increasing to be more far plentiful than expected, mostly due to faith in [[God|God's]] powers and use of [[conservative]] [[economics]]. Indeed, in modern times [[obesity]] is far more prevalent and harmful than [[hunger]] worldwide, and food production far exceeds the ability to consume even in impoverished nations. Hunger remains a problem only in places with [[liberal]] and/or [[leftist]] political systems that impede food distribution or destroy the [[free market]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Psychogenic hematidrosis ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Psychogenic hematidrosis, which is sweat turning into blood, happens rarely but in the cases it does happen, it usually happens with death row inmates.  In 70 percent of all studies that document this condition, the condition occurs in death row inmates.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjXMsq6SscA Police Detective Examines the Resurrection of Jesus becomes Christian]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus sweat blood (Luke 22:44). The early church was puzzled by the account of Jesus sweating blood given in Scripture and they didn't know what to make of it.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Pleural effusion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The early church was puzzled by the blood and water that came out of Jesus' side when the soldier plunged his spear into him. The blood was not a problem in their understanding, but the water was. Medical science can now explain the water coming out of Jesus' side as being the result of pleural effusion.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Flood ice mummy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The building of the ark.jpg|thumb|The building of the Ark by Bertram of Minden, ancient [[German Painting]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
According to the Bible, a [[Great Flood]] occurred around 3300 B.C., or about 5300 years ago. It involved a cataclysmic rainstorm of a magnitude never seen before or since. For centuries [[atheist]]s and [[liberals]] have mocked it, claiming that it was impossible. However, in 1991, an &amp;quot;ice mummy&amp;quot; was discovered in the [[Alps]]. Scientists located a remarkably preserved ancient body, including even the contents of his last meal, which was due to an extraordinary ice storm. By radiometric [[carbon dating]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nupecc.org/iai2001/report/B44.pdf Radiocarbon dating of the Iceman Ötzi with&lt;br /&gt;
accelerator mass spectrometry&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the scientists discovered that this massive ice storm occurred 5300 years ago, which perfectly matches the Biblical Great Flood.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/icemummies/iceman.html PBS on the &amp;quot;Iceman&amp;quot; in the Alps&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is obvious proof of the Great Flood, as no natural occurrence could possibly explain how somebody came to be preserved by ice in the [[Alps]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest Living Organism===&lt;br /&gt;
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Bristlecone pine trees in California's White Mountains are the oldest living unitary organism.  As predicted by the Bible, they are not as old as 6,000 years but are as old as 5,000 years,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/worlds-oldest-living-things-23385913/image-23386256&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; roughly the time of the [[Great Flood]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===False theories===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus' recognition that the truth would remain hidden from arrogant &amp;quot;intellectuals&amp;quot; while simultaneously revealed to humbler, [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|more openminded]] people. This foreshadowed the creation of theories to pull self-centered intellectual wannabees away from [[God]], such as the [[Theory of Evolution]], the [[Theory of Relativity]], the [[homosexual agenda]], the [[secular]] culture of [[abortion]], [[Communism]], and countless other [[liberal]] and atheistic ideas and ideologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Mankind remains extant===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible predicts that the end of [[mankind]] will not occur by chance, but rather at a time known only to God. Despite the extinction of many species each year throughout history, the expectation by scientists that Earth would have been hit by chance by a massive, extinction-causing meteor, and laws of probability that predict other immense catastrophes, mankind continues and Christianity grows just as Jesus predicted.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Construction of ancient sky-high structures===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible—the [[Book of Genesis]] chapter 11—explains how ancient people arrogantly sought to construct a sky-high &amp;quot;[[Tower of Babel]]&amp;quot; to try to reach [[Heaven]].  Then, in the 1900s, archaeologists discovered the great ziggurat of ancient Ur, located in present-day southern Iraq, having characteristics similar to the biblical description of the Tower of Babel.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bible-history.com/babylonia/BabyloniaThe_Ziggurat.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hometown of Goliath===&lt;br /&gt;
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1 Samuel 17 of the Bible discusses the giant Goliath from a Philistine city named Gath, located in central Israel. In July 2015, archaeologists discovered its entrance in an excavation that began in 1899.  They also uncovered evidence of a massive earthquake that occurred in the eighth century BC, as described in the biblical book of Amos.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiantoday.com/article/gates.to.goliaths.city.discovered/61124.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Effect of Deafness on Speech===&lt;br /&gt;
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For 2000 years after [[Christ]], scientists overlooked the close connection between hearing and speech, and the brain, and are just starting to discover this now.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zdnet.com/article/deafness-can-have-unexpected-consequences-on-speech-patterns/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  But [[Jesus]] illustrated the connection when he cured a problem with speech primarily by opening someone's ears, after which the man &amp;quot;spoke plainly.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mark 7:34-35 ([[ESV]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Common DNA===&lt;br /&gt;
[[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 1|John 1:3]] explains that &amp;quot;All things were made by Him; not one thing was made without Him.&amp;quot;  If something had been made without Him then creatures would exist that had completely different DNA from other creatures.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Psychiatry===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jesus Christ]] and [[Christianity|Christendom]] have emphasized the important of forgiveness and in the last few decades mental health specialists have increasingly seen the importance of forgiveness to alleviate anger/depression/bitterness and other emotional problems within individuals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2755173/ Indian J Psychiatry. 2009 Apr-Jun; 51(2): 153–156. doi:  10.4103/0019-5545.49459, PMCID: PMC2755173, ''Forgiveness: A note for psychiatrists'' by Prakash Gangdev]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Modern medicine now realizes that obsessing with one's past is a big cause of psychiatric problems.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-flux/201104/5-ways-find-closure-the-past&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Jesus had the same insight 2000 years earlier: &amp;quot;No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the [[kingdom of God]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luke 9:62 ([[ESV]]).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Atheism and anger]] and [[Atheism and bitterness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Bible and health practices ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[The Bible and health]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Max Neuberger, writing in his &amp;quot;History of Medicine&amp;quot; states concerning the Mosaic laws: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The commands concern prophylaxis and suppression of epidemics, suppression of venereal disease and prostitution, care of the skin, baths,[17] food, housing and clothing, regulation of labour, sexual life, discipline of the people, etc. Many of these commands, such as Sabbath rest, circumcision, laws concerning food (interdiction of blood and pork), measures concerning menstruating and lying-in women, and those suffering from gonorrhoea, isolation of lepers, and hygiene of the camp, are, in view of the conditions of the climate, surprisingly rational.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Blood clotting on the eighth day===&lt;br /&gt;
In Genesis 17:12, God mandated that Abraham circumcise his sons on the 8th day after birth.  In 1935, it was discovered that Vitamin K, together with prothrombin, causes blood coagulation, (important in any surgical procedure).  On the 8th day, the amount of prothrombin present is elevated above 100% of normal and is therefore the only day in the male’s life in which this will be the case (normally). If surgery is to be performed, day 8 is the perfect day to do it as vitamin K and prothrombin levels are at their peak.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Lifespan===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible puts the maximum lifespan for man at 120 years (Genesis 6:3), the typical lifespan at 70 years and the typical for a good-living person at 80 years (Psalm 90:10).&lt;br /&gt;
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Thousands of years after that was written, despite immense advances in medicine and technology, these figures remain remarkably accurate.  The longest modern recorded life of a man is precisely 120 years (Shigechiyo Izumi), the average lifespan for a man is roughly 70 years, and the average for a good-living man is about 80 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest human ancestor===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible suggests that the oldest maternal ancestor &amp;amp;#8212; [[Eve]] &amp;amp;#8212; first lived slightly more than 6000 years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The mutation rate of [[mitochondria]] indicates roughly the same date for the most recent common human ancestor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creationwiki.org/Mitochondrial_Eve_lived_only_6500_years_ago_%28Talk.Origins%29&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Anesthesia===&lt;br /&gt;
The first surgical operation described in the Bible was the removal of a rib from [[Adam]], which was performed by first putting Adam into an unconscious,  &amp;quot;deep sleep-like trance.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 2:21]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This was the equivalent of anesthesia &amp;amp;#8212; thousands of years before anesthesia using inhaled ether was developed by William Morton in 1846.  Had scientists and physicians been more [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|openminded]] about Genesis 2:21 (perhaps they had considered it a miracle, and thus impossible for humans to achieve), they may have discovered anesthesia far sooner, and saved many more lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bloodletting hastens death===&lt;br /&gt;
At the time of Jesus and for centuries afterward, arteries and veins were thought to be filled with air, and blood was viewed as something to be used up rather than recirculate.  Bloodletting—the practice of intentionally draining blood from a patient—was common medical practice through the time of [[George Washington]], hastening his death prematurely for reasons not understood until years later.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/37212.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Most victims of crucifixion in Roman times languished on the cross for days. But the Bible describes how Pilate, who crucified many, was surprised at how quickly Jesus passed away. 2000 years later, scientific knowledge has advanced to understand that this was caused by his prior loss of blood during his scourging (being brutally whipped), a punishment typically given ''instead of'' crucifixion.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Homosexuality and disease===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible's prohibition against [[homosexuality]] predated knowledge about the [[Homosexuality and Health|many diseases and disorders associated with homosexuality]], and thus showed scientific wisdom prescient for its time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eyesight===&lt;br /&gt;
The description in the [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Gospel of Mark 8:24]] for the sensation when one's eyesight is restored includes his perception of &amp;quot;trees walking.&amp;quot; This perception was first confirmed nearly 2000 years later as physicians developed medical techniques for restoring eyesight.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This newspaper account is not specific but describes the overall sensation of restored sight: [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-138886/Robot-eye-restore-lost-sight-20-years.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Maximum human height===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheists thought the size of [[Goliath]] in the Bible to be absurdly large (over nine feet tall), until [[Robert Wadlow]] grew to nearly 9 feet tall and was still growing when he died at a young age in 1940.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Leprosy===&lt;br /&gt;
Although leprosy is not as contagious as other infectious diseases, and some forms of it (such as tuberculoid or paucibacillary form are not contagious), Leviticus 13 and 14 set forth rules to prevent epidemics of this disease among the people of Israel.  Western science did not catch up until, in 1663, such laws were introduced in America in an attempt to curb an outbreak of smallpox.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hygiene===&lt;br /&gt;
Millennia before germ theory was proposed in the late 19th century, Leviticus 15 mandated hygiene laws that included bathing, washing of clothing, destruction of contaminated pottery and washing of hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 15:2, Jesus then curbed compulsive hand-washing by explaining why it was no longer typically necessary (in a non-farming, non-medical context) with respect to man's digestive system.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Digestive system===&lt;br /&gt;
It was common thought throughout history that infections and illness resulted from the digestive system, based on unclean hands or food.  Jesus rejected that view, and declared hand-washing before meals to be typically unnecessary.  It took many centuries before science caught up to the Bible on this.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is part of the Jewish kosher law to not eat milk with meat. In some Jewish homes they have separate refrigerators for meat and milk products. It comes from Deuteronomy 14:21 &amp;quot;...Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.&amp;quot; There is evidence that the body has difficulty digesting both meat and milk at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, as part of the Jewish kosher law a pork is on the list of prohibited foods. Under cooked pork can transmit Trichinosis, a parasitic disease that can infect muscle tissue, the brain, and the central nervous system, among other [[parasite]]s and zoonotic diseases.  [[Creation denial|Creation deniers]] can counter this point only with such desperate non-arguments as asking why God had to create trichinae at all and then allow them onto the [[Ark]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fetal Alcohol Syndrome====&lt;br /&gt;
Not discovered until 1973 by American physicians, fetal alcohol syndrome results from harm done to the unborn child in pregnancy due to the mother drinking alcohol.  The Bible, thousands of years earlier, forbade the mother of [[Samson]] from drinking alcohol while pregnant, so that he could become a powerful leader:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;3&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;The angel of the Lord appeared to her and said, “You are barren and childless, but you are going to become pregnant and give birth to a son. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;'''''Now see to it that you drink no wine or other fermented drink''''' and that you do not eat anything unclean. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, dedicated to God from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Judges 13:3-5 (NIV).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Animal Toxicity====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:David Macht.jpg|thumbnail|right||200px|Dr. David Macht]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 1953 Dr. [http://www.creationwiki.org/David_Macht David Macht], a Johns Hopkins researcher, conducted toxicity tests on many different kinds of animals and fish and concluded that the toxicity of Levitically [[Mosaic law and unclean animals|&amp;quot;unclean&amp;quot; animals]] was higher than that of the [[Mosaic law and clean animals|&amp;quot;clean&amp;quot; animals]], and that the correlation with the description in Leviticus was 100%.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht1&amp;gt;Macht, David I., MD. &amp;quot;[http://members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/Macht1953.pdf An Experimental Pharmacological Appreciation of Levitcus XI and Deuteronomy XIV].&amp;quot; ''Bulletin of the History of Medicine'' 27(5):444-450, September–October, 1953. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Macht's study in terms of classifying kosher and non-kosher animals matched the kosher classification performed by James W. Atz, Ph.D., Curator and Dean Bibliographer in the Department of Ichthyology of the American Museum of Natural History, NY, NY and Adjunct Professor of Biology, Graduate School of Arts and Science on New York University. Dr. Atz's list of kosher and non-kosher animals was published by the Orthodox Union in Kosher Guide and in the Orthodox Union Kosher Consumer Directory.&amp;lt;ref name=Atz&amp;gt;Atz, James W., contrib. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fish/ KASHRUT.COM - Kosher and Non-kosher fish]&amp;quot; Scharf Associates, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to a list of kosher and non-kosher fish published by the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, deciding what fish have scales, in the Orthodox Jewish community, appears to involve semantics as scales which are not visible to the human eye or scales that cannot be removed without tearing the skin are not considered &amp;quot;scales&amp;quot; in terms of the Torah law for determining which fish are kosher. It appears that Jewish religious authorities do appeal to well known Torah commentators.&amp;lt;ref name=Goldberg&amp;gt;Goldberg, Chaim. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fishfaq/ Consumers’ FAQ’s on Kosher fish].&amp;quot; Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, 2004. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Also, Dr. Macht's classification of swans as kosher is in accordance with the research done at Ohr Somayach Institutions in Jerusalem, Israel.&amp;lt;ref name=ask1&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://ohr.edu/ask/ask210.htm Ask the Rabbi - Are swans kosher]?&amp;quot; Ohr Somayach Website, Ohr.edu, October 24, 1998. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, Dr. Macht states in the peer reviewed journal ''Science'' that the toxicology test he used was a reliable method for detecting zoological toxins as it was a toxicology test sensitive to these type of toxins, and therefore one could conclude it was also suitable for testing the toxicity levels of fish, meat, and poultry.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht3&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. , Science 1930, 71 :302&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (The toxicological method that Dr. Macht used was also cited in the Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht2&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. and Macht, M.B. ''Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine'' 1941, 26: 597&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) In addition, Dr. Macht was an expert in cobra venom, which is a zoological toxin. Macht's conclusions, however, were challenged by three of his science community peers in a Seventh Day Adventist publication although one partially affirmed his study.&amp;lt;ref name=Harris&amp;gt;Harris, Lester E., Jr. &amp;quot;[https://archive.is/20070709234205/members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/web/ministry-1954-March-p37.htm This Question of Unclean Meats].&amp;quot; Ministry Magazine, March 1953, p37-38. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This was partly due to a likely unfamiliarity with what food is kosher and non-kosher. Also, perhaps they were unfamiliar with the toxicity test Dr. Macht used, and its apparent effectiveness in testing zoological toxins.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the short term, eating non-kosher food often appears to have no dramatic ill effects in general. For example, the Arabs, who do not eat kosher, consider camel to be a delicacy. Clearly, non-kosher Arabs do not fall dead right after eating camel meat. However, the long term optimality of eating clean versus unclean meat is an unanswered question of science. Also, eating non-kosher foods clearly has some nutritional benefit. For example, shrimp and pork contain protein. The New Testament declares, {{Bible quote|For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5|version=NKJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In regard to the aforementioned verse, it could be argued that prayer does sanctify food. The Bible has plenty of verses regarding God's protection. Also, it could be argued that the benefits outweigh the costs in all foods and thus all food is good. Clearly there is  some nutritional goodness in foods that the Torah declared unclean (for example, shrimp has protein).  What foods are optimal from an empirically tested science viewpoint is often controversial. In short, in regard to eating strictly a kosher diet versus a non-kosher diet, science has no definitive answers at the present time. From a Christian theological point of view, it could be argued that food should not be an impediment to anyone making a decision to become a Christian. It should be noted that orthodox Christian believers in Biblical scientific foreknowledge believe that Christians can eat the food that was declared unclean in the Old Testament, and {{Bible ref|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5}} and {{Bible ref|book=Galations|chap=2|verses=7-16}} make this very clear.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to the aforementioned study testing kosher and non-kosher foods for toxicity levels, Macht developed evidence indicating that combining meat and milk tended to be more toxic than either foodstuff alone.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4&amp;gt;David I. Macht, Medical Leaves 1940; 3:174-184&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In addition, he compared conventional animal slaughtering versus kosher slaughtering and determined that kosher slaughtering produced less toxic meat.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 1985 study by Nanji and French found that there was a significant correlation between cirrhosis and pork consumption (Macht claimed that swine was more toxic than the animal meat the Bible called clean).&amp;lt;ref name=Nanji&amp;gt;Nanji AA, and French SW. &amp;quot;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&amp;amp;db=PubMed&amp;amp;list_uids=2858627&amp;amp;dopt=Abstract Relationship between pork consumption and cirrhosis].&amp;quot; ''Lancet'' 1985 Mar 23, 1(8430):681-3. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Modern pork production methods are different from ancient methods of raising pigs, so the result of this study might be hard to apply to the ancients or those who raise pigs by organic farming methods, without the use of hormones or antibiotics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jane Cahill reported in ''Biblical Archaeological Review'' that the toilets of a Jewish household in [[Jerusalem]] were examined and no [[parasite]]s or infectious agents were found.&amp;lt;ref name=Cahill&amp;gt;[http://cojs.org/cojswiki/It_Had_to_Happen,_Jane_M._Cahill,_Karl_Reinhard,_David_Tarler_and_Peter_Warnock,_BAR_17:03,_May/Jun_1991. It had to happen, Scientist Examines Ancient Bathrooms of Romans 586 B.C.] by Jane Cahill and Peter Warnock. BAR May/June 1991&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Today, some &amp;quot;alternative medicine&amp;quot; practitioners do not recommend pork to their patients. Their reasons include the possible content of hormones, antibiotics, and pesticides, and also the undiscriminating diet of the pig. Joseph Mercola, DO, who has a private practice in alternative general medicine, writes:{{cquote|Pigs are scavenger animals and will eat just about anything. Their appetite for less-than-wholesome foods makes pigs a breeding ground for potentially dangerous infections. Even cooking pork for long periods is not enough to kill many of the retroviruses and other parasites that many of them harbor.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola&amp;gt;Mercola, Joseph, DO, ed. &amp;quot;[http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/07/12/are-there-deadly-superbugs-in-your-pork.aspx?source=nl Are There Deadly Superbugs In Your Pork]?&amp;quot; &amp;lt;http://www.mercola.com/&amp;gt;, July 12, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Mercola does not even recommend pasture-raised pork, because wild boars will often infect herds of pork with [[Trichinella spiralis]] or other parasites.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Feasibility of abiogenesis===&lt;br /&gt;
Although scientists dismissed ideas involving [[abiogenesis]], or the process from which life emerges from non-living material, as nothing more than archaic beliefs in [[spontaneous generation]], the Bible very clearly depicts an occurrence of this phenomenon, for beginning in Genesis 1:20, God creates life from nothing. It was not until the early 20th century that science finally began to accept the viability of abiogenesis, a view that the Bible had held for almost 2000 years, except that [[atheists]] falsely claim that abiogenesis is somehow possible without a creator. For addition information, please see [http://creation.com/origin-of-life origin of life]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Awareness while unborn===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Abortion]] advocates argue that it is ok to terminate a baby while dismissing the pain inflicted by ending an innocent life. They argue that a fetus cannot feel pain because senses are incomplete. There is a heart-beating human in the womb that can feel even though still unborn and developing. In modern times, we now know the baby in the womb is alert, aware of their mother's emotions, recognizes voices, responds to stimuli and music. The Bible tells us the baby feels (1 Luke 44), ''&amp;quot;the babe leaps for joy in Elizabeth’s womb at the sound of Mary’s voice.&amp;quot;'' The inwomb developing baby, John the Baptist, notices the presence of the unborn [[Lord]] in [[Mary]], and is excited. In addition (St. Paul to the Galatians 1:15), ''&amp;quot;God… from my mother’s womb had set me apart and called me through his grace.&amp;quot;'' Paul's very first thought, feeling awareness, began while unborn.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Embalming===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mark 9-16 (Translated)#Chapter 14|Mark 14:3-8]] describes an embalming process to preserve a body after death, which was not discovered in the West until 1867.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Significance of blood===&lt;br /&gt;
The Old Testament teaches that the [[life]] of all flesh is its [[blood]] ({{Bible ref|book=Leviticus|chap=17|verses=13-14|version=KJV}}).  Secular science remained ignorant of the properties and circulation of blood until the 17th century A.D.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12_notes.htm Net Bible: Notes] to [http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12.htm#1234 Deuteronomy 12:23] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Menstruation===&lt;br /&gt;
The Biblical laws concerning [[menstruation]], including the setting apart of the menstruating woman and the prohibition on intimacy during menstruation, address health concerns that were not known to secular science until the 20th century.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Also, modern science has only very recently discovered that following such rules dramatically reduces the rate of illegitimacy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120604182027.htm How Religion Promotes Confidence About Paternity]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cloning and a Common X Chromosome===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bible ref|book=Genesis|chap=2|verses=21-22|version=KJV}} records that God made a [[woman]] out of one of [[Adam]]'s [[rib]]s.  Secular scientists did not believe that [[cloning]] such a complex organism (apart from plants) was possible until 1997.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml Cloning Fact Sheet] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It should be noted, however, that this is not strictly 'cloning' as a clone would be identical to its original, most obviously in terms of its sex. Women can be cloned from the genetic material of men, but not the other way around, since women lack a Y chromosome. Women have the same X chromosome as men, but this was not discovered until the late 1800s. The Book of Genesis explained this thousands years earlier, describing how the first woman was created directly from man. While a clone of a person is their genetic duplicate, equivalent to an identical twin, the risks of inbreeding had not yet arisen, since God created DNA perfectly and it only degraded later (see [[Cain]] for more details). Because of this, the divine commandments against inbreeding (in the next section) had not yet been given.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inbreeding===&lt;br /&gt;
Leviticus 18:7-11 elaborates in detail the relationships it regards as incestuous unions, to forbid inbreeding. Only in modern times has secular science caught up and been able to scientifically explain the harm to future generations of inbreeding.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Distance of Oldest Star to Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Genesis implies that the distance of the oldest star to Earth is how far light would travel during the age of mankind: about 6000 light-years.  In 2014, a team of researchers discovered what they believe to be the oldest star yet discovered, estimating its age at about 13 billion years old. It is indeed only 6000 light-years away.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/6012/the-oldest-star-in-the-known-universe&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, stars further away have been discovered, and the farthest visible stars are 13.8 billion light-years away. This is why many [[atheism|atheists]] believe that the Universe is 13.8 billion years old. However, this ignores the possibility of light being created in transit. For more information, see the [[starlight problem]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Planet formation===&lt;br /&gt;
Theories of an old universe insisted that planet formation did not occur until long after the origin of the universe, contrary to the [[Book of Genesis]].  It was not until 2012 that atheistic scientists recognized and reported that planets formed at the &amp;quot;dawn of the universe,&amp;quot; within a small fraction of the universe's age according to evolutionists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0330/Planets-found-at-dawn-of-universe-but-their-existence-is-a-mystery&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Extraterrestrial life===&lt;br /&gt;
For most of the 20th century, scientists typically believed in the existence of extraterrestrial life, despite the lack of any reference to it in the Bible. After spending many billions of dollars looking for such life, and investigating countless reports of UFOs, no such life has been found.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Starlight Problem===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Starlight Problem]] confounds atheistic theories about the universe:  light has reached us from stars that are too far away to transmit the light within the age of the universe.  But the Book of Genesis explains this easily:  &amp;quot;let there be light&amp;quot; means that God created light, not merely stars. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly refers to the number of stars as being innumerable,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''See'' Genesis 15:5, Jeremiah 33:22 and Hebrews 11:12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; despite scientists insisting throughout most of history that there were only about 6000 stars. In the early 17th century [[Galileo]] turned a telescope to the heavens and discovered a great number of stars that had been previously invisible to the naked eye.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://galileo.rice.edu/lib/student_work/astronomy95/orionpleiades.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Not until the 20th century did scientists discover the tremendous number of stars:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/07/22/stars.survey/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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But even that scientific estimate was much too low.  On December 1, 2010, scientists admitted:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/1201/Universe-might-hold-three-times-more-stars-than-previously-thought&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;a cosmic embarrassment of riches – ''the universe appears to hold three times the number of stars many [[astronomer]]s might have estimated only a year ago''.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Although the use of telescopes to chart the outer-reaches of God's heavenly creation was developed around the 16th century in Europe, the Bible accurately hypothesized that every star is unique.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spherical Sun and Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
The Book of Isaiah establishes that the true shape of the earth is a sphere:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|He sits above the sphere of the earth, and its inhabitants look to him like grasshoppers.  He stretches out the galaxies like a curtain, spreading them out like a tent to live under: - [[Isaiah 34-42 (Translated)#Chapter 40|Isaiah 40:22 (CBP]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Isaiah was written circa the 8th century BC, and the Book of Proverbs even earlier.  This was centuries before Greek philosophers, beginning with [[Pythagoras]], theorized the earth was round, and it was not discovered until 2012 that the sun is perfectly spherical.  Astronomers were not able to conclude until well into the second millennium of [[Christ]] that the Earth is also a sphere.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earth free floating in space===&lt;br /&gt;
The book of Job states that God &amp;quot;hangs the [[Earth]] on nothing.&amp;quot; It also contrasts with Greek Mythology's belief that [[Atlas]] holds up the Earth, or ancient Hindu and Native American myths that the Earth was on top of a gigantic turtle.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible presaged the modern view that space is in fact empty, which wasn't known until the dawn of the 20th century when ether theories became disfavored.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cosmic Background Radiation===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis Chapter 1]] explains that God created light first, rather than merely stars.  A &amp;quot;big bang&amp;quot; would result in light everywhere, without darkness, and without ripples in cosmic background radiation.  Yet in the 21st century ripples were discovered in cosmic background radiation, which can only be plausibly explained by recognizing that light was created first.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Meteoroids===&lt;br /&gt;
The Revelation of Saint John notes, &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. Revelation 8:8-9 (KJV)}}&lt;br /&gt;
This accurately describes meteoroids, essentially large chunks of rock lit on fire by the shock of entering the earth's atmosphere.  They were not discovered until 1801, and their composition was not otherwise known until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Stellar proper movement===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Job]], a list of challenges are constructed in the form of questions, with the idea that man can't do it, but God can. Among these challenges, two are remarkable: one mentions the ''untying'' of Orion's belt, and the other is the ''binding'' of the Pleiades. Only recently, astronomers could measure the proper movement of those stars; Orion's belt is moving apart, with each star going in a different direction, while the Pleiades are moving together.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Space flight===&lt;br /&gt;
Many theorize that the book of [[Ezekiel]] contains descriptions of spaceships and rockets, as they would have been described by someone thousands of years ago. [http://www.spaceshipsofezekiel.com/ Author Blumrich] has even published an entire book about this.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Expanding universe===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible explains, in 17 different verses, that God &amp;quot;stretched out&amp;quot; the heavens,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.creationists.org/God-streched-out-the-universe-bible-verses.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in other words, expanding the fabric of space-time from a smaller size to a much larger one. Scientists have discovered only in the last 100 years that, by studying the red shift of galaxies, the universe indeed appears to be expanding, or &amp;quot;stretching out.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Water cycle, and the Six days of Creation Week===&lt;br /&gt;
The existence of the water cycle was widely unknown to pagan people's until imperial Roman times. But the Bible described the water cycle over a thousand years before that. In general, see [[Ecclesiastes]] 11:3, [[Job]] 26:8 and [[Amos]] 9:6.&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be a more Biblically central reference to the water cycle: The reports in Genesis 1 of five things that God names (v. 5=two, v. 8=one, v. 10=two) seem to be consistent with five basic features of the geophysical half of Earth's life-support cycle. In Earth sciences, it is known that the total life-support cycle is irreducibly complex in relation to Earth's distance to the Sun, and this complexity maintained on an order of mere days' reserve: flora and fauna are interdependent, their interaction is necessary for the maintenance of the atmosphere, and if any one of those five features suddenly ceased, Earth would fail to support life in a matter of days.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Immense power within atoms alluded to in 2 Peter chapter 3 ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Abomb.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|The [[atomic bomb]] that was dropped on [[Hiroshima]] unleashed the equivalent of about 15 kilotons of TNT.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The immense power within atoms is alluded to in the Bible in 2 Peter chapter 3.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|John Phillips notes that Peter’s prophecy of a great, end-times conflagration of the earth and its atmosphere uses precise terminology that accurately describes a nuclear explosion. Liddell and Scott’s Lexicon define the “elements” as “the components into which matter is divided” (or atoms), and the term “dissolved” comes from the basic Greek word meaning to “loose” that which is bound (as in nuclear fission). The term “great noise” is found nowhere else in the New Testament and signifies “a rushing sound of roaring flames.” The term “fervent heat” is derived from a Greek medical term denoting a fever. But Peter’s use of it in application to inanimate objects is the only such known usage anywhere in Greek literature. Thus, Phillips observes, “Peter describes in accurate terms the untying of the atom and the resulting rushing, fiery destruction which follows it.”&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Impossibility of a Grand Unified Theory===&lt;br /&gt;
Billions of dollars and millions of hours have been wasted by scientists in futile pursuit of a &amp;quot;grand unified theory&amp;quot; for physics.  But [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis]] explains that the creation of light was done in a separate, initial creation, free of darkness or entropy, and thus incapable of theoretical unification with matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Light and color===&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the work of [[Isaac Newton]], white was considered to be the fundamental color of light, and other colors (such as red, green and blue) were formed by adding to white light.  Under that traditional theory, the fullness of all light (a combination of all colors of light) would result in something other than pure white.&lt;br /&gt;
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The transfiguration of Jesus is described with remarkable consistency in all three synoptic [[Gospel]]s: in the fullness of light Jesus and his clothing display an intense white, whiter than any bleach could produce.  This illustrates what was not discovered and accepted until nearly 1700 years later: that white is the combination of other fundamental colors, and the purest white light is formed by a perfectly full combination (see [[Prism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Action-at-a-distance===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Jesus]] demonstrated [[action-at-a-distance]], as recounted in [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]].  Scientists, particularly [[atheists]], denied the possibility of this phenomenon for thousands of years.  When Newton proposed action-at-a-distance as the basis of gravity, scientists continued to reject it, but eventually accepted it as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later the [[Theory of Relativity]] again denied the possibility of action-at-a-distance, but [[quantum mechanics]] subsequently proved that it does occur.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also [[Counterexamples to Relativity]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Quantum mechanics===&lt;br /&gt;
The fundamental principle of [[quantum mechanics]] is that the underlying reality is in random fluctuation, or chaos, until there is intelligent observation of it.  This is precisely what [[Luke 1-8 (Translated)#Luke 4:6|Luke 4:6]] reveals when it quotes the [[devil]] in saying that he has dominion over this world.&lt;br /&gt;
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The world was an abyss of chaos at the moment of creation, as explained in the [[Book of Genesis]].  The order created by God is on a foundation of uncertainty.  The discovery of this in subatomic particles in the 1900s, known as quantum mechanics, confirms the nature of the world as described in Genesis.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff, Matthew 13:24-30, describes a fundamental uncertainty that does not resolve itself until there is observation over time.  The authenticity of a simpler explanation of this parable at Matthew 13:36-43 has been challenged.  The parable may refer to a profound and pervasive chaotic struggle between good and evil, or in quantum mechanics the uncertainty in position and energy.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Observation of the wave function====&lt;br /&gt;
The second chapter of the [[Gospel of John]] describes the conversion of water into wine by [[Jesus]] at a wedding reception. [[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 2|John 2:9]] states: &amp;quot;When the host of the wedding feast tasted the water, it had been made into wine.&amp;quot; This passage implies that the drink was not wine until it had been tasted, or observed. The drink was a superposition of the state of wine and the state of water until it was observed as wine.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 16:19, Jesus draws a then-unusual distinction between what is fixed and what is uncertain by declaring, &amp;quot;Whatever you make binding on earth will be binding in heaven, and whatever you set loose on earth will be set loose in heaven.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Matthew_10-19_%28Translated%29&amp;amp;oldid=870778#Chapter_16&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This may describe the fundamental uncertainty that continues unless and until there is human observation that then causes the wave function to collapse into a particular (&amp;quot;bound&amp;quot;) state.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle====&lt;br /&gt;
Both the Old and New Testaments refer to a fundamental [[uncertainty]] that requires observation to resolve, akin to the [[Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle]] discovered in the 1920s:&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;The earth came to exist in an utterly formless and empty state.&amp;quot; -- [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 1:2]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The master refusing to order the removal of the weeds sowed among the wheat because of the uncertainty in distinguishing between the two until later.&amp;quot; -- [[Matthew 10-19 (Translated)|Matthew 13:24-30]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Wave-particle duality====&lt;br /&gt;
Wave-particle duality, first discovered in the 20th century, allows for a particle to sometimes be subject to gravity and sometimes not.&lt;br /&gt;
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The wave-particle duality was described nearly 2000 years earlier in the Gospel account of Jesus walking on water: [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:45-54]].  A close reading of the passage reveals the wave-like (or light-like) characteristic of the walking on water:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:48-49]] (italics added).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|he walked on the surface of the lake and came to the boat, ''nearly passing it''.  But when they saw him walking on water, they thought it must have been ''a ghost'', and cried out.}}&lt;br /&gt;
In a more general sense, Jesus could be viewed as the &amp;quot;particle&amp;quot; and the [[Holy Spirit]] as the &amp;quot;wave&amp;quot; of God.  A fuller understanding of the [[Trinity]] could have opened the eyes of scientists much earlier to the fundamental wave-particle duality of nature ... '''''and still could'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Quantum tunneling====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Quantum tunneling]] is the ability of particles to move through energy barriers even though ostensibly impossible based on classical laws of mechanical physics.  This was not discovered by scientists until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus proved this was possible in [[John 15-21 (Translated)#Chapter 20|John 20:26]], when he appeared before the [[Apostles]] in a closed room with completely shut doors.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Classical relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
Romans 10:6-7: But the righteousness that is by faith says: &amp;quot;Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ down) 7&amp;quot;or 'Who will descend into the deep?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).&lt;br /&gt;
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Equating ascending into heaven to bringing Christ down is an example of the fact that there is no universal reference frame, and only relative speeds matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Modern relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Theory of Relativity]] denies the possibility of action-at-a-distance.  But several passages in the Bible, such as [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]] and [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)|Matthew 27:51]], describe simultaneous actions from afar.&lt;br /&gt;
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The list of [[Counterexamples to Relativity]] has grown recently, and modern experiments in quantum mechanics have confirmed action-at-a-distance.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Second Law of Thermodynamics===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Book of Genesis]] states that the darkness or chaos in the universe can never overcome the light, or order.  This same concept was not discovered in physics until the development of the [[Second Law of Thermodynamics]], which holds that heat (or order or light) always travels in the direction of cold (or disorder or darkness), and never in the opposite direction.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10-11]] explains that the universe shall &amp;quot;wear out&amp;quot; like a &amp;quot;garment&amp;quot;, centuries before the discovery of the physical law that [[entropy]] is always increasing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nature of air===&lt;br /&gt;
Until about 300 years ago, common knowledge believe that the air was &amp;quot;empty&amp;quot; and didn't weigh anything. But [[Job]] 28:25 states, &amp;quot;To establish a '''weight''' for the wind, And apportion the waters by measure&amp;quot; indicating that the divinely inspired author knew the air had substance and weight.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Conservative forces===&lt;br /&gt;
James 1:17 describes the electromagnetic forces (light) as having no &amp;quot;shadow of turning.&amp;quot;  Not understood for nearly 2000 years, this predicts that electromagnetic forces are [[conservative]] such that their [[line integrals]] over a closed loop are zero.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mathematics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See main article: [[Math and the Bible]]''&lt;br /&gt;
===Zero===&lt;br /&gt;
Mathematicians in Western Europe did not discover [[zero]] until many centuries after the Bible was written.  But there are hundreds of references to the concept of zero throughout the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Banach-Tarski Paradox===&lt;br /&gt;
The only miracle described in all four [[Gospels]] is the multiplication of loaves and fish by Jesus, thought for thousands of years to be a mathematical and physical impossibility.  But the 20th century discovery of the so-called [[Banach-Tarski Paradox]] proved a mathematical basis for creating identical copies of an object out of no extra material.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Axiomatization of Arithmetic===&lt;br /&gt;
The full set of axioms for integer arithmetic may be found in the Bible.  For example, [[Luke 9-16 (Translated)|Luke 12:52]] is a striking statement of the commutative law for addition: &amp;quot;For from this point forward there will be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.&amp;quot;  This understanding presaged both later attempts at the axiomatization of arithmetic by Peano and the development of [[abstract algebra]] in the 19th and 20th centuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Infinity===&lt;br /&gt;
Most thinkers scoffed at the concept of [[infinity]] for thousands of years, despite it being referenced in the Bible in many ways.  See, e.g., Psalm 147:4-6 (God's &amp;quot;understanding is infinte&amp;quot;); [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)#20:1|Matthew 20:1-14]] ([[parable]] of the wages for the workers in the vineyard); Matthew 16:26 (one's soul has an infinite value to him, and nothing else can be worth more).&lt;br /&gt;
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But [[Georg Cantor]], deeply inspired by [[Christianity]], established a logical foundation for infinity that revolutionized all of mathematics as a result, with his development of [[set theory]] to accomplish his goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Calculus===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible emphasizes the importance of limits as a key distinction between this world and God; Calculus consists of relying on limits to derive useful results.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.aiias.edu/ict/vol_27/27cc_225-239.htm Norie Grace Rivera-Poblete: &amp;quot;''God and Calculus''&amp;quot;], Institute for Christian Teaching Education Department of [[Seventh-day Adventist]], Prepared for the 27th International Faith and Learning Seminar held at Mission, Muak Lek Saraburi, Thailand December 3 – 15, 2000&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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James 1:17 states that the first and second derivatives of God's light (truth) is zero, more than 1600 years before calculus was discovered: &amp;quot;with [God] there is no variation or shadow of turning.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Shadow%252525252525252520of%252525252525252520Turning&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/no-variation-or-shadow-of-turning-calculus-in-the-bible/ Nathan Albright: ''&amp;quot;No Variation Or Shadow Of Turning: Calculus In The Bible&amp;quot;''], Blog-Entry, Feb 24, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Arithmetic with Negative Numbers===&lt;br /&gt;
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Negative numbers were not fully accepted by mathematicians until the 1800s,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nrich.maths.org/5961&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; including how a negative number dominates the result in multiplication with a positive number, to yield a negative outcome.  Yet Jesus' parable of the sower and the seed, in Matthew 13:1-23, Mark 4:1-8, and Luke 8:4-8, explained the same effect nearly 2000 years earlier.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Indeterminacy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that God is &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  See Job 5:9 (God &amp;quot;does great things and unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 26:1 (&amp;quot;God's Majesty Is Unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 36:26 (&amp;quot;Behold, God is great, and we know him not; the number of his years is unsearchable.&amp;quot;) Psalm 145:3 (&amp;quot;Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised, and his greatness is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Proverbs 25:3 (&amp;quot;As the heavens for height, and the earth for depth, so the heart of kings is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Isaiah 40:28 (&amp;quot;Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Romans 11:33 (&amp;quot;Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!&amp;quot;)' Ephesians 3:8 (&amp;quot;to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;All quotations are to the ESV of the Bible.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John 1:1 teaches that logic is part of God, and thus logic itself must also be &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  For many decades the finest mathematicians thought that the consistency of logic could be proven, until [[Kurt Godel]] (himself a frequent reader of the Bible) proved the indeterminacy, or &amp;quot;unsearchability&amp;quot;, of mathematics.&lt;br /&gt;
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The existence of malicious trolls on the internet is difficult to understand, until one reads Matthew 13:24-30 - the Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crime===&lt;br /&gt;
Mark 4:22 says how nothing can be hid, neither can anything be kept secret. Empirical statistics show that the vast majority of crimes worldwide are solved.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Morality of animals===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 3:1-10]] explains that only humans understand good and evil, and clothe themselves because of it.  Repeatedly scientists have attempted to demonstrate that animals can understand morality also, but every attempt has failed.  No animal (other than humans) has ever been found that clothes itself. However, as limited case, animals do demonstrate altruistic behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Existence of dinosaurs===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Dinosaur]] fossils were not discovered until the 19th century, but the book of Job describes enormous creatures called behemoth and leviathan, the descriptions being similar to dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures.  It may also have referred to another similarly giant now-extinct species. Other dinosaur like creatures mentioned are the cockatrice and satyr &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/behemoth.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Killing methods of lions===&lt;br /&gt;
Until the 1970s naturalists believed that lions killed their prey by biting through the neck or by breaking the neck with a swat of a paw, while the Bible says that lions suffocated their prey. (Nahum 2:12) It was not until the 1970s that it was discovered that the [[Bible]] was correct.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BLions87.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Lions fit their mouth over the mouth and nose of their prey and hold it while it suffocates, in addition to other killing methods.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Giant sea creatures and Jonah===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Jonah (Translated)|Book of Jonah]] describes his survival in the belly of a giant sea creature for 2.5 to 3 days.  Scientists declared this to be impossible due to powerful stomach acids that quickly break down any material and the lack of breathable air inside marine animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010, scientists found the following materials intact in the belly of a gray whale that had died after being stranded on a Northwest beach:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/19/pair-sweat-pants-garbage-beached-whales-stomach/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Gender of worker ants===&lt;br /&gt;
Proverbs 6:6-8 correctly states the sex of worker [[ant]]s (female), using the correct one of the two [[Grammar#Gender|grammatical genders]] available in Biblical [[Hebrew]].  Secular entomologists would not discover that fact until the 19th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=rzwSAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA6&amp;amp;dq=ant+undeveloped+female+worker+date:1700-1850&amp;amp;lr=&amp;amp;as_brr=0&amp;amp;as_pt=ALLTYPES#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false The study of medicine, Volume 5 By John Mason Good]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Harvester ants ===&lt;br /&gt;
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19th century [[Europe]]an naturalists were wrong about [[ant]] behavior - namely the issue of ants/harvesting (Harvester ants). The Bible was correct about ant behavior.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BWilliamsvsAnon71to73.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Hearing and snakes ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The scientific consensus and the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'' both indicated that snakes can't hear.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/snake-charming-and-bible-accuracy  Charmed, I’m sure!] by Calvin Smith&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ed5015.tripod.com/BCobra94.htm The Cobra and the Bible]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Bible said that snakes can hear. 21st century research showed that snakes can hear.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Vegetarian lion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The prophet Isaiah says that there will be a time when the [[lion]] will lay down with the lamb and the lion will eat straw like the ox (Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25). There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:8790lion-wont-eat-meat.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
David Catchpoole wrote at the website of [[Creation Ministries International]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|From 1946 to 1955, A female African lion, born and raised in America, lived her entire lifetime of nine years without ever eating meat.1 In fact, her owners, Georges and Margaret Westbeau,2 alarmed by scientists’ reports that carnivorous animals cannot live without meat, went to great lengths to try to coax their unusual pet (‘Little Tyke’) to develop a taste for it. They even advertised a cash reward for anyone who could devise a meat-containing formula that the lioness would like. The curator of a New York zoo advised the Westbeaus that putting a few drops of blood in Little Tyke’s milk bottle would help in weaning her, but the lioness cub refused to touch it—even when only a single drop of blood had been added.&lt;br /&gt;
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The more knowledgeable animal experts among the many visitors to the Westbeaus’ 100 acre (40 hectare) ranch also proffered advice, but nothing worked. Meanwhile, Little Tyke continued to do extremely well on a daily diet of cooked grain, raw eggs and milk. By four years of age she was fully grown and weighed 352 pounds (160 kg)...&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Westbeau’s observation of the lioness that ‘To condition her stomach she would spend an hour at a time eating the succulent tall grass in the fields’, is also a vivid reminder of the prophecies of Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25, ‘ … the lion will eat straw like the ox.’&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Linguistics==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The Tower of Babel by Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1563.jpg|thumb|350px|The Tower of Babel by [[Pieter Bruegel the Elder]], 1563.]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Common descent theory===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[theory of evolution]] suggests that all languages are descended from a common ancestral language, and for a century (1860 to about 1960) scientists clung to that view.  But now most linguists identify many different families of languages that have no common ancestor, just as described in Genesis 11 with the [[Tower of Babel]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earliest Hebrew writings===&lt;br /&gt;
Skeptics have claimed that [[Hebrew]] writing did not exist before the 6th century B.C.  But a recent Israeli archaeological dig dated four centuries earlier, in the 10th century B.C., included an artifact found at Khirbet Qeiyafa in the Elah Valley.  This artifact contained a written inscription in Hebrew relating to &amp;quot;slaves, widows and orphans.&amp;quot; Haifa University Professor Gershon Galil noted that this disproves the theory that the Bible could not have been written before the 6th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2010/01/08/Bible-may-be-centuries-older-than-thought/UPI-21171262997765/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Economics==&lt;br /&gt;
===Poverty===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus stated that there will always be poverty,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Mark 14:7, Matthew 26:11 and John 12.8.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yet [[liberals]] repeatedly insist that poverty can be eliminated with more government spending.  Every attempt to eliminate poverty has failed just as Jesus predicted. In 1991 [[Ronald Coase]] won a [[Nobel Prize]] in [[Economics]] for the [[Coase Theorem]], which implies that government attempts to reduced poverty will interfere with efficient operation of the economy, and thereby reduce wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Socialism and Capitalism===&lt;br /&gt;
Ecclesiastes 5:18-19 says that [[capitalism]] is a gift from God:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God give the him: for it is his portion. Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Similarly, Ecclesiastes 6:1-2 condemns [[socialism]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Government and Politics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also [[Biblical political foreknowledge]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nation-state===&lt;br /&gt;
Ancient Israel, as described in the [[Old Testament]], was a [[nation-state]] and that model was not utilized again until thousands of years later, well after the Renaissance in Western Europe.  This model of a nation-state has become the modern standard worldwide.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Separation of Powers===&lt;br /&gt;
The separation of powers adopted successfully by the [[U.S. Constitution]] in 1787, with the legislative, executive, and judicial branches having separate authority and jurisdiction, was first described in the Old Testament.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Jeremiah 17:19 and Isaiah 33:22.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Liberal influence on the media===&lt;br /&gt;
The Third [[Three Temptations of Christ|Temptation of Christ]] is to bow down and worship the [[Satan]] in exchange for becoming ruler of the world.  The media plays that role and its influence is predictably liberal and anti-[[Christian]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Engineering==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge about these engineering developments has been proposed:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2191&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|automobiles (Joel 2:3-4); airplanes (Isaiah 31:5, also 40:31); submarines (Revelation 9:1-11); radio (Ecclesiastes 10:20); and television (Revelation 11:3-12)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Classical photography, using negative imaging, was predated by the [[Shroud of Turin]] with respect to the imaging on the Shroud likely due to the light of the [[Resurrection]]. The Shroud ([[Greek]]: σινδών - sindón)  is mentioned in three Gospels: Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46, Luke 23:53, while John 20:5-7 talks about a face cloth or napkin ([[Greek]]: σουδάριον - soudárion - perhaps the [[Sudarium of Oviedo]]), and a piece of fine linen ([[Greek]]: ὀθόνιον - othonion). The description by the eyewitness John implies that his sighting of the Shroud may have confirmed his [[faith]], though he doesn't mention its photograph-like image.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Calvin, who opposed the Catholic Church, wrote a book in 1543 criticizing all material evidence of Jesus and the martyrs.  In it he claimed that because the negative image on the Shroud is not described in the Gospels, it must not be authentic. [[John Calvin]]: ''Traité des Reliques'', Geneve 1543, translated by Valerian Krasinski: ''A treatise on Relics'', Edingburgh 1854&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alleged &amp;quot;contradictions&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge is an underpinning of creation science, and is widely credited by Christian scientists and apologists, including the organizations [[Creation Ministries International]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creation.com/modern-medicine Creation Ministries International on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Answers in Genesis]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i1/medicine.asp Answers in Genesis on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[CreationWiki]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creationwiki.org/index.php/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge  Bible Scientific Foreknowledge]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists and liberals unsuccessfully attempt to discredit the Bible based on science.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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===Value of Pi===&lt;br /&gt;
Two sections of the Bible (1 Kings 7, 23-26, 2 Chronicles, 4, 2-5) appear to indicate that the correct value of [[Pi]] is 3, whereas Pi is, in fact, an irrational number, equalling approximately 3.14159. Atheists, including [[Sam Harris]] and [[Richard Dawkins]], allege that this value indicates the fallacious nature of scripture.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://richarddawkins.net/articles/139 The Richard Dawkins Foundation, ''Reply to a Christian'', Sam Harris -]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, a simple explanation of the claimed &amp;quot;contradiction&amp;quot; is that the Bible records the ratio of the actual object which Hiram created, not that of a mathematical [[sphere]]. The claim that it was round all about does not equate to a claim that it was a perfect sphere, as atheists have claimed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Theology'', Volume 59, Issues 427-438,  Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge (Great Britain), London, 1956, p. 23&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, Pi to one significant digit is 3. Just because the measurement is given to only one significant digit, that does not mean it was precisely that amount.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;There are no instances in the Bible where fractions are used.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of course, since Pi is an irrational number, it would be impossible to give a truly precise measurement. Since decimal notation was not in use in Biblical times, there was no way to express Pi to greater accuracy in the language of the day.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bat as a bird===&lt;br /&gt;
A favorite [[evolutionist]] canard is that [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:13-19]] labels the [[bat]], a [[mammal]], as a [[bird]]. The [[KJV]] translation of &amp;quot;fowl&amp;quot; is simply incorrect, as the Hebrew term '' 'owph'' did not entail the &amp;quot;clade&amp;quot; of birds, but was a non-scientific category simply referring to ''any'' winged creature. A popular Jewish translation, used to explain the laws of keeping kosher, translates the term as &amp;quot;winged flying things.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Rabbits, coneys, and cud===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:5-6]], the Bible states, {{cquote|And the coney ''(or hyrax)'', because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.}} While rabbits do not, in fact, regurgitate food and re-chew it, they have the same jaw motions as animals that do&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/do-badger-and-rabbit-chew-cud&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and thus appeared as cud-chewing to the Jews of Moses's time. Atheists and liberals love to misrepresent this passage only because they are in [[liberal denial]] of the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Number of legs of insects===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:20-23]], the Bible states, {{cquote|All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the &lt;br /&gt;
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But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.}}While this may appear to indicate that insects have four legs (they have six), the passage is in fact referring to the manner in which the grasshopper moves. Grasshoppers have large back legs mainly used for jumping, and not for walking, which is when it uses its smaller four front legs. Thus, the ancient Hebrews were just describing things as they saw them, not according to scientific nomenclature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay:Rebuttal to Biblical scientific foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Biblical political foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christianity and Science]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Prodigal Son]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.creationwiki.org/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge Biblical scientific foreknowledge] by [[CreationWiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/10/scientific-consensus-and-evolutionary.html Jesus vs. the scientific consensus and evolution. Jesus wins!]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Ten of the Top Scientific Facts in the Bible&amp;quot;, Living Waters Films with Ray Comfort. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sMJMXDiH4]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Newton.png|thumb|200px|alt=Isaac Newton, cornerstone of the scientific revolution, based his research on the scientific authority of the [[Bible]].|thumb|[[Portrait]] of [[Isaac Newton]], cornerstone of the [[scientific revolution]], based his research on the scientific authority of the Bible.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' is how the [[Bible]] shows a comprehension of [[science]] far ahead of its time. The Bible is a superb roadmap to future scientific discoveries. Unfortunately [[Bible denier]]s, including many [[Atheism|atheist]]s and [[evolution]]ists, refuse to read the Bible, and '''''their irrational [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|closed-mindedness]] against the Bible obstructs the advancement of science'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Book of Genesis]] gives [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge#Anesthesia|an example of anesthesia]] long before man discovered it in 1846.  And the underlying chaos and [[uncertainty]] in the physical world was explained in the Bible long before [[quantum mechanics]] confirmed it in the 1900s.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' has an additional benefit: it guides a more precise translation of verses that describe scientific-related events, such as the reference to the universe in [[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10]], and the changing of [[Essay:Water into Wine|water into wine]] at the wedding feast.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Geology==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Massive flooding===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheist scientists long opposed a [[young earth]] [[creation|created]] by [[God]] where cataclysmic flooding, such as the [[Great Flood]] described in the Bible, shaped the landscape. However, ample [[counterexamples to an old earth]] exist and the discovery in the Northwest of &amp;quot;giant ripple marks, 50 feet high and 200-500 feet apart&amp;quot; proved that a cataclysmic flood in the region had indeed occurred thousands of years ago. As a result, &amp;quot;[a]mong geologists, the concept of a catastrophic flood came to be universally accepted by the late 1950s.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iafi.org/floods.html The Ice Age Flood Institute reports on the massive floods in the Northwest.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continental drift===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Continental drift]] was  proposed by [[creationist]] Antonio Snider-Pellegrini in 1859 based on [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis 1:9-10]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c001.html Christian Answers explains Antonio Snider's divine inspiration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which states, {{cquote|And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.&lt;br /&gt;
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.}} Because land is no longer all in [[Pangaea|one place]], this implies that the continents have shifted over the six millennia to their current positions. [[Atheists]] and [[scientist]]s who hadn't seen the light of [[creationism]] were in [[liberal denial]] about this concept for a century, until finally accepting its truth. This is just more data that the Bible knew millennia before [[secular]] [[science]] caught up.&lt;br /&gt;
However, The Continents are still connected; under the ocean is land if you dry up the water. This interpretation of this verse is in error, the separation spoken of here is the waters under the sky (Firmament) and the water out in space (beyond the heavens). Comets prove this theory, as many of them contain ice, and today as much as 1% of terrestrial rain comes from extraterrestrial sources.{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}&lt;br /&gt;
The most likely reason for the current position and shape of the land mass is the Flood of Noah. Pangea does not work without flipping, shrinking, and sometimes removing countries entirely. Any Biblical statements of continents is in Genesis 10:25 when Peleg is mentioned &amp;quot;for in his days was the earth divided&amp;quot; this in particular refers to the separation of what today is Russia, Japan, and Alaska, when the oceans arose, and also to the division of the peoples by languages, who migrated together according to their language after the confusing of tongues at the tower of Babel, obviously the migration took place before the oceanic divide which led to the natives of the Far West. Everyone laughed at Columbus, not because they thought earth was flat, but because they had forgotten the Far West (America) was there, and they thought he didn't have nearly enough supplies or a big enough ship to go to Asia the long way around, and they would have been right if he didn't hit the Caribbean first by complete accident. Recent findings of biblical stone tablets, in Byzantine script prove that trade between Europe and the Far West was common prior to the dark age which began in 400 or 500 AD.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Underwater springs===&lt;br /&gt;
Only in modern times have scientists become aware of the enormous underwater springs feeding into the oceans, and the very deep valleys at the bottom of the oceans. However, the Bible repeatedly described this thousands of years earlier in [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 7|Genesis 7:11]], which states, {{cquote|In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.}} Again, in 2 Samuel 22:16, the Bible states that, {{cquote|And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.}}&lt;br /&gt;
And Job 38:16 “Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? Or hast thou walked in the search of the depths?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is ''obvious'' proof to all but [[liberals]] that the Bible had foreknowledge of subcrustal oceans, something the ancient Jews could not have possibly known, and thus proof of the Bible's God-given accuracy and divine nature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Agriculture==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Malthusianism===&lt;br /&gt;
Since Thomas [[Robert Malthus|Malthus's]] 1798 work, ''An Essay on the Principle of Population'', [[liberal]] [[intellectual]]s insisted that the world's population would grow faster than the [[food]] supply and result in mass starvation. However, there are examples in both the [[Old Testament|Old]]{{citation needed|date=September 2015}} and [[New Testament]]s{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}, as well as the example of [[William Bradford]] at Plymouth Colony,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book|last1=Bradford|first1=William|title=The History of Plimoth Plantation|date=1669|pages=135–136}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of the food supply increasing to be more far plentiful than expected, mostly due to faith in [[God|God's]] powers and use of [[conservative]] [[economics]]. Indeed, in modern times [[obesity]] is far more prevalent and harmful than [[hunger]] worldwide, and food production far exceeds the ability to consume even in impoverished nations. Hunger remains a problem only in places with [[liberal]] and/or [[leftist]] political systems that impede food distribution or destroy the [[free market]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Psychogenic hematidrosis ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Psychogenic hematidrosis, which is sweat turning into blood, happens rarely but in the cases it does happen, it usually happens with death row inmates.  In 70 percent of all studies that document this condition, the condition occurs in death row inmates.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjXMsq6SscA Police Detective Examines the Resurrection of Jesus becomes Christian]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus sweat blood (Luke 22:44). The early church was puzzled by the account of Jesus sweating blood given in Scripture and they didn't know what to make of it.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Pleural effusion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The early church was puzzled by the blood and water that came out of Jesus' side when the soldier plunged his spear into him. The blood was not a problem in their understanding, but the water was. Medical science can now explain the water coming out of Jesus' side as being the result of pleural effusion.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Flood ice mummy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The building of the ark.jpg|thumb|The building of the Ark by Bertram of Minden, ancient [[German Painting]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
According to the Bible, a [[Great Flood]] occurred around 3300 B.C., or about 5300 years ago. It involved a cataclysmic rainstorm of a magnitude never seen before or since. For centuries [[atheist]]s and [[liberals]] have mocked it, claiming that it was impossible. However, in 1991, an &amp;quot;ice mummy&amp;quot; was discovered in the [[Alps]]. Scientists located a remarkably preserved ancient body, including even the contents of his last meal, which was due to an extraordinary ice storm. By radiometric [[carbon dating]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nupecc.org/iai2001/report/B44.pdf Radiocarbon dating of the Iceman Ötzi with&lt;br /&gt;
accelerator mass spectrometry&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the scientists discovered that this massive ice storm occurred 5300 years ago, which perfectly matches the Biblical Great Flood.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/icemummies/iceman.html PBS on the &amp;quot;Iceman&amp;quot; in the Alps&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is obvious proof of the Great Flood, as no natural occurrence could possibly explain how somebody came to be preserved by ice in the [[Alps]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest Living Organism===&lt;br /&gt;
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Bristlecone pine trees in California's White Mountains are the oldest living unitary organism.  As predicted by the Bible, they are not as old as 6,000 years but are as old as 5,000 years,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/worlds-oldest-living-things-23385913/image-23386256&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; roughly the time of the [[Great Flood]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===False theories===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus' recognition that the truth would remain hidden from arrogant &amp;quot;intellectuals&amp;quot; while simultaneously revealed to humbler, [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|more openminded]] people. This foreshadowed the creation of theories to pull self-centered intellectual wannabees away from [[God]], such as the [[Theory of Evolution]], the [[Theory of Relativity]], the [[homosexual agenda]], the [[secular]] culture of [[abortion]], [[Communism]], and countless other [[liberal]] and atheistic ideas and ideologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Mankind remains extant===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible predicts that the end of [[mankind]] will not occur by chance, but rather at a time known only to God. Despite the extinction of many species each year throughout history, the expectation by scientists that Earth would have been hit by chance by a massive, extinction-causing meteor, and laws of probability that predict other immense catastrophes, mankind continues and Christianity grows just as Jesus predicted.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Construction of ancient sky-high structures===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible—the [[Book of Genesis]] chapter 11—explains how ancient people arrogantly sought to construct a sky-high &amp;quot;[[Tower of Babel]]&amp;quot; to try to reach [[Heaven]].  Then, in the 1900s, archaeologists discovered the great ziggurat of ancient Ur, located in present-day southern Iraq, having characteristics similar to the biblical description of the Tower of Babel.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bible-history.com/babylonia/BabyloniaThe_Ziggurat.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hometown of Goliath===&lt;br /&gt;
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1 Samuel 17 of the Bible discusses the giant Goliath from a Philistine city named Gath, located in central Israel. In July 2015, archaeologists discovered its entrance in an excavation that began in 1899.  They also uncovered evidence of a massive earthquake that occurred in the eighth century BC, as described in the biblical book of Amos.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiantoday.com/article/gates.to.goliaths.city.discovered/61124.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Effect of Deafness on Speech===&lt;br /&gt;
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For 2000 years after [[Christ]], scientists overlooked the close connection between hearing and speech, and the brain, and are just starting to discover this now.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zdnet.com/article/deafness-can-have-unexpected-consequences-on-speech-patterns/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  But [[Jesus]] illustrated the connection when he cured a problem with speech primarily by opening someone's ears, after which the man &amp;quot;spoke plainly.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mark 7:34-35 ([[ESV]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Common DNA===&lt;br /&gt;
[[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 1|John 1:3]] explains that &amp;quot;All things were made by Him; not one thing was made without Him.&amp;quot;  If something had been made without Him then creatures would exist that had completely different DNA from other creatures.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jesus Christ]] and [[Christianity|Christendom]] have emphasized the important of forgiveness and in the last few decades mental health specialists have increasingly seen the importance of forgiveness to alleviate anger/depression/bitterness and other emotional problems within individuals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2755173/ Indian J Psychiatry. 2009 Apr-Jun; 51(2): 153–156. doi:  10.4103/0019-5545.49459, PMCID: PMC2755173, ''Forgiveness: A note for psychiatrists'' by Prakash Gangdev]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Modern medicine now realizes that obsessing with one's past is a big cause of psychiatric problems.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-flux/201104/5-ways-find-closure-the-past&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Jesus had the same insight 2000 years earlier: &amp;quot;No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the [[kingdom of God]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luke 9:62 ([[ESV]]).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Bible and health practices ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[The Bible and health]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Max Neuberger, writing in his &amp;quot;History of Medicine&amp;quot; states concerning the Mosaic laws: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The commands concern prophylaxis and suppression of epidemics, suppression of venereal disease and prostitution, care of the skin, baths,[17] food, housing and clothing, regulation of labour, sexual life, discipline of the people, etc. Many of these commands, such as Sabbath rest, circumcision, laws concerning food (interdiction of blood and pork), measures concerning menstruating and lying-in women, and those suffering from gonorrhoea, isolation of lepers, and hygiene of the camp, are, in view of the conditions of the climate, surprisingly rational.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Blood clotting on the eighth day===&lt;br /&gt;
In Genesis 17:12, God mandated that Abraham circumcise his sons on the 8th day after birth.  In 1935, it was discovered that Vitamin K, together with prothrombin, causes blood coagulation, (important in any surgical procedure).  On the 8th day, the amount of prothrombin present is elevated above 100% of normal and is therefore the only day in the male’s life in which this will be the case (normally). If surgery is to be performed, day 8 is the perfect day to do it as vitamin K and prothrombin levels are at their peak.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Lifespan===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible puts the maximum lifespan for man at 120 years (Genesis 6:3), the typical lifespan at 70 years and the typical for a good-living person at 80 years (Psalm 90:10).&lt;br /&gt;
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Thousands of years after that was written, despite immense advances in medicine and technology, these figures remain remarkably accurate.  The longest modern recorded life of a man is precisely 120 years (Shigechiyo Izumi), the average lifespan for a man is roughly 70 years, and the average for a good-living man is about 80 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jeanne Calment]] lived to age 122, only two years past 120. She was said to have never worked and used olive oil on her skin, outliving all of her [[feminist]] counterparts.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest human ancestor===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible suggests that the oldest maternal ancestor &amp;amp;#8212; [[Eve]] &amp;amp;#8212; first lived slightly more than 6000 years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The mutation rate of [[mitochondria]] indicates roughly the same date for the most recent common human ancestor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creationwiki.org/Mitochondrial_Eve_lived_only_6500_years_ago_%28Talk.Origins%29&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Anesthesia===&lt;br /&gt;
The first surgical operation described in the Bible was the removal of a rib from [[Adam]], which was performed by first putting Adam into an unconscious,  &amp;quot;deep sleep-like trance.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 2:21]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This was the equivalent of anesthesia &amp;amp;#8212; thousands of years before anesthesia using inhaled ether was developed by William Morton in 1846.  Had scientists and physicians been more [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|openminded]] about Genesis 2:21 (perhaps they had considered it a miracle, and thus impossible for humans to achieve), they may have discovered anesthesia far sooner, and saved many more lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bloodletting hastens death===&lt;br /&gt;
At the time of Jesus and for centuries afterward, arteries and veins were thought to be filled with air, and blood was viewed as something to be used up rather than recirculate.  Bloodletting—the practice of intentionally draining blood from a patient—was common medical practice through the time of [[George Washington]], hastening his death prematurely for reasons not understood until years later.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/37212.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Most victims of crucifixion in Roman times languished on the cross for days. But the Bible describes how Pilate, who crucified many, was surprised at how quickly Jesus passed away. 2000 years later, scientific knowledge has advanced to understand that this was caused by his prior loss of blood during his scourging (being brutally whipped), a punishment typically given ''instead of'' crucifixion.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Homosexuality and disease===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible's prohibition against [[homosexuality]] predated knowledge about the [[Homosexuality and Health|many diseases and disorders associated with homosexuality]], and thus showed scientific wisdom prescient for its time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eyesight===&lt;br /&gt;
The description in the [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Gospel of Mark 8:24]] for the sensation when one's eyesight is restored includes his perception of &amp;quot;trees walking.&amp;quot; This perception was first confirmed nearly 2000 years later as physicians developed medical techniques for restoring eyesight.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This newspaper account is not specific but describes the overall sensation of restored sight: [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-138886/Robot-eye-restore-lost-sight-20-years.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Maximum human height===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheists thought the size of [[Goliath]] in the Bible to be absurdly large (over nine feet tall), until [[Robert Wadlow]] grew to nearly 9 feet tall and was still growing when he died at a young age in 1940.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Leprosy===&lt;br /&gt;
Although leprosy is not as contagious as other infectious diseases, and some forms of it (such as tuberculoid or paucibacillary form are not contagious), Leviticus 13 and 14 set forth rules to prevent epidemics of this disease among the people of Israel.  Western science did not catch up until, in 1663, such laws were introduced in America in an attempt to curb an outbreak of smallpox.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hygiene===&lt;br /&gt;
Millennia before germ theory was proposed in the late 19th century, Leviticus 15 mandated hygiene laws that included bathing, washing of clothing, destruction of contaminated pottery and washing of hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 15:2, Jesus then curbed compulsive hand-washing by explaining why it was no longer typically necessary (in a non-farming, non-medical context) with respect to man's digestive system.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was common thought throughout history that infections and illness resulted from the digestive system, based on unclean hands or food.  Jesus rejected that view, and declared hand-washing before meals to be typically unnecessary.  It took many centuries before science caught up to the Bible on this.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is part of the Jewish kosher law to not eat milk with meat. In some Jewish homes they have separate refrigerators for meat and milk products. It comes from Deuteronomy 14:21 &amp;quot;...Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.&amp;quot; There is evidence that the body has difficulty digesting both meat and milk at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, as part of the Jewish kosher law a pork is on the list of prohibited foods. Under cooked pork can transmit Trichinosis, a parasitic disease that can infect muscle tissue, the brain, and the central nervous system, among other [[parasite]]s and zoonotic diseases.  [[Creation denial|Creation deniers]] can counter this point only with such desperate non-arguments as asking why God had to create trichinae at all and then allow them onto the [[Ark]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fetal Alcohol Syndrome====&lt;br /&gt;
Not discovered until 1973 by American physicians, fetal alcohol syndrome results from harm done to the unborn child in pregnancy due to the mother drinking alcohol.  The Bible, thousands of years earlier, forbade the mother of [[Samson]] from drinking alcohol while pregnant, so that he could become a powerful leader:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;3&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;The angel of the Lord appeared to her and said, “You are barren and childless, but you are going to become pregnant and give birth to a son. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;'''''Now see to it that you drink no wine or other fermented drink''''' and that you do not eat anything unclean. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, dedicated to God from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Judges 13:3-5 (NIV).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:David Macht.jpg|thumbnail|right||200px|Dr. David Macht]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 1953 Dr. [http://www.creationwiki.org/David_Macht David Macht], a Johns Hopkins researcher, conducted toxicity tests on many different kinds of animals and fish and concluded that the toxicity of Levitically [[Mosaic law and unclean animals|&amp;quot;unclean&amp;quot; animals]] was higher than that of the [[Mosaic law and clean animals|&amp;quot;clean&amp;quot; animals]], and that the correlation with the description in Leviticus was 100%.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht1&amp;gt;Macht, David I., MD. &amp;quot;[http://members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/Macht1953.pdf An Experimental Pharmacological Appreciation of Levitcus XI and Deuteronomy XIV].&amp;quot; ''Bulletin of the History of Medicine'' 27(5):444-450, September–October, 1953. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Macht's study in terms of classifying kosher and non-kosher animals matched the kosher classification performed by James W. Atz, Ph.D., Curator and Dean Bibliographer in the Department of Ichthyology of the American Museum of Natural History, NY, NY and Adjunct Professor of Biology, Graduate School of Arts and Science on New York University. Dr. Atz's list of kosher and non-kosher animals was published by the Orthodox Union in Kosher Guide and in the Orthodox Union Kosher Consumer Directory.&amp;lt;ref name=Atz&amp;gt;Atz, James W., contrib. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fish/ KASHRUT.COM - Kosher and Non-kosher fish]&amp;quot; Scharf Associates, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to a list of kosher and non-kosher fish published by the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, deciding what fish have scales, in the Orthodox Jewish community, appears to involve semantics as scales which are not visible to the human eye or scales that cannot be removed without tearing the skin are not considered &amp;quot;scales&amp;quot; in terms of the Torah law for determining which fish are kosher. It appears that Jewish religious authorities do appeal to well known Torah commentators.&amp;lt;ref name=Goldberg&amp;gt;Goldberg, Chaim. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fishfaq/ Consumers’ FAQ’s on Kosher fish].&amp;quot; Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, 2004. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Also, Dr. Macht's classification of swans as kosher is in accordance with the research done at Ohr Somayach Institutions in Jerusalem, Israel.&amp;lt;ref name=ask1&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://ohr.edu/ask/ask210.htm Ask the Rabbi - Are swans kosher]?&amp;quot; Ohr Somayach Website, Ohr.edu, October 24, 1998. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, Dr. Macht states in the peer reviewed journal ''Science'' that the toxicology test he used was a reliable method for detecting zoological toxins as it was a toxicology test sensitive to these type of toxins, and therefore one could conclude it was also suitable for testing the toxicity levels of fish, meat, and poultry.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht3&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. , Science 1930, 71 :302&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (The toxicological method that Dr. Macht used was also cited in the Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht2&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. and Macht, M.B. ''Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine'' 1941, 26: 597&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) In addition, Dr. Macht was an expert in cobra venom, which is a zoological toxin. Macht's conclusions, however, were challenged by three of his science community peers in a Seventh Day Adventist publication although one partially affirmed his study.&amp;lt;ref name=Harris&amp;gt;Harris, Lester E., Jr. &amp;quot;[https://archive.is/20070709234205/members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/web/ministry-1954-March-p37.htm This Question of Unclean Meats].&amp;quot; Ministry Magazine, March 1953, p37-38. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This was partly due to a likely unfamiliarity with what food is kosher and non-kosher. Also, perhaps they were unfamiliar with the toxicity test Dr. Macht used, and its apparent effectiveness in testing zoological toxins.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the short term, eating non-kosher food often appears to have no dramatic ill effects in general. For example, the Arabs, who do not eat kosher, consider camel to be a delicacy. Clearly, non-kosher Arabs do not fall dead right after eating camel meat. However, the long term optimality of eating clean versus unclean meat is an unanswered question of science. Also, eating non-kosher foods clearly has some nutritional benefit. For example, shrimp and pork contain protein. The New Testament declares, {{Bible quote|For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5|version=NKJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In regard to the aforementioned verse, it could be argued that prayer does sanctify food. The Bible has plenty of verses regarding God's protection. Also, it could be argued that the benefits outweigh the costs in all foods and thus all food is good. Clearly there is  some nutritional goodness in foods that the Torah declared unclean (for example, shrimp has protein).  What foods are optimal from an empirically tested science viewpoint is often controversial. In short, in regard to eating strictly a kosher diet versus a non-kosher diet, science has no definitive answers at the present time. From a Christian theological point of view, it could be argued that food should not be an impediment to anyone making a decision to become a Christian. It should be noted that orthodox Christian believers in Biblical scientific foreknowledge believe that Christians can eat the food that was declared unclean in the Old Testament, and {{Bible ref|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5}} and {{Bible ref|book=Galations|chap=2|verses=7-16}} make this very clear.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to the aforementioned study testing kosher and non-kosher foods for toxicity levels, Macht developed evidence indicating that combining meat and milk tended to be more toxic than either foodstuff alone.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4&amp;gt;David I. Macht, Medical Leaves 1940; 3:174-184&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In addition, he compared conventional animal slaughtering versus kosher slaughtering and determined that kosher slaughtering produced less toxic meat.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 1985 study by Nanji and French found that there was a significant correlation between cirrhosis and pork consumption (Macht claimed that swine was more toxic than the animal meat the Bible called clean).&amp;lt;ref name=Nanji&amp;gt;Nanji AA, and French SW. &amp;quot;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&amp;amp;db=PubMed&amp;amp;list_uids=2858627&amp;amp;dopt=Abstract Relationship between pork consumption and cirrhosis].&amp;quot; ''Lancet'' 1985 Mar 23, 1(8430):681-3. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Modern pork production methods are different from ancient methods of raising pigs, so the result of this study might be hard to apply to the ancients or those who raise pigs by organic farming methods, without the use of hormones or antibiotics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jane Cahill reported in ''Biblical Archaeological Review'' that the toilets of a Jewish household in [[Jerusalem]] were examined and no [[parasite]]s or infectious agents were found.&amp;lt;ref name=Cahill&amp;gt;[http://cojs.org/cojswiki/It_Had_to_Happen,_Jane_M._Cahill,_Karl_Reinhard,_David_Tarler_and_Peter_Warnock,_BAR_17:03,_May/Jun_1991. It had to happen, Scientist Examines Ancient Bathrooms of Romans 586 B.C.] by Jane Cahill and Peter Warnock. BAR May/June 1991&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Today, some &amp;quot;alternative medicine&amp;quot; practitioners do not recommend pork to their patients. Their reasons include the possible content of hormones, antibiotics, and pesticides, and also the undiscriminating diet of the pig. Joseph Mercola, DO, who has a private practice in alternative general medicine, writes:{{cquote|Pigs are scavenger animals and will eat just about anything. Their appetite for less-than-wholesome foods makes pigs a breeding ground for potentially dangerous infections. Even cooking pork for long periods is not enough to kill many of the retroviruses and other parasites that many of them harbor.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola&amp;gt;Mercola, Joseph, DO, ed. &amp;quot;[http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/07/12/are-there-deadly-superbugs-in-your-pork.aspx?source=nl Are There Deadly Superbugs In Your Pork]?&amp;quot; &amp;lt;http://www.mercola.com/&amp;gt;, July 12, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Mercola does not even recommend pasture-raised pork, because wild boars will often infect herds of pork with [[Trichinella spiralis]] or other parasites.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Feasibility of abiogenesis===&lt;br /&gt;
Although scientists dismissed ideas involving [[abiogenesis]], or the process from which life emerges from non-living material, as nothing more than archaic beliefs in [[spontaneous generation]], the Bible very clearly depicts an occurrence of this phenomenon, for beginning in Genesis 1:20, God creates life from nothing. It was not until the early 20th century that science finally began to accept the viability of abiogenesis, a view that the Bible had held for almost 2000 years, except that [[atheists]] falsely claim that abiogenesis is somehow possible without a creator. For addition information, please see [http://creation.com/origin-of-life origin of life]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Awareness while unborn===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Abortion]] advocates argue that it is ok to terminate a baby while dismissing the pain inflicted by ending an innocent life. They argue that a fetus cannot feel pain because senses are incomplete. There is a heart-beating human in the womb that can feel even though still unborn and developing. In modern times, we now know the baby in the womb is alert, aware of their mother's emotions, recognizes voices, responds to stimuli and music. The Bible tells us the baby feels (1 Luke 44), ''&amp;quot;the babe leaps for joy in Elizabeth’s womb at the sound of Mary’s voice.&amp;quot;'' The inwomb developing baby, John the Baptist, notices the presence of the unborn [[Lord]] in [[Mary]], and is excited. In addition (St. Paul to the Galatians 1:15), ''&amp;quot;God… from my mother’s womb had set me apart and called me through his grace.&amp;quot;'' Paul's very first thought, feeling awareness, began while unborn.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Embalming===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mark 9-16 (Translated)#Chapter 14|Mark 14:3-8]] describes an embalming process to preserve a body after death, which was not discovered in the West until 1867.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Significance of blood===&lt;br /&gt;
The Old Testament teaches that the [[life]] of all flesh is its [[blood]] ({{Bible ref|book=Leviticus|chap=17|verses=13-14|version=KJV}}).  Secular science remained ignorant of the properties and circulation of blood until the 17th century A.D.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12_notes.htm Net Bible: Notes] to [http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12.htm#1234 Deuteronomy 12:23] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Menstruation===&lt;br /&gt;
The Biblical laws concerning [[menstruation]], including the setting apart of the menstruating woman and the prohibition on intimacy during menstruation, address health concerns that were not known to secular science until the 20th century.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Also, modern science has only very recently discovered that following such rules dramatically reduces the rate of illegitimacy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120604182027.htm How Religion Promotes Confidence About Paternity]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cloning and a Common X Chromosome===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bible ref|book=Genesis|chap=2|verses=21-22|version=KJV}} records that God made a [[woman]] out of one of [[Adam]]'s [[rib]]s.  Secular scientists did not believe that [[cloning]] such a complex organism (apart from plants) was possible until 1997.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml Cloning Fact Sheet] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It should be noted, however, that this is not strictly 'cloning' as a clone would be identical to its original, most obviously in terms of its sex. Women can be cloned from the genetic material of men, but not the other way around, since women lack a Y chromosome. Women have the same X chromosome as men, but this was not discovered until the late 1800s. The Book of Genesis explained this thousands years earlier, describing how the first woman was created directly from man. While a clone of a person is their genetic duplicate, equivalent to an identical twin, the risks of inbreeding had not yet arisen, since God created DNA perfectly and it only degraded later (see [[Cain]] for more details). Because of this, the divine commandments against inbreeding (in the next section) had not yet been given.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inbreeding===&lt;br /&gt;
Leviticus 18:7-11 elaborates in detail the relationships it regards as incestuous unions, to forbid inbreeding. Only in modern times has secular science caught up and been able to scientifically explain the harm to future generations of inbreeding.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Distance of Oldest Star to Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Genesis implies that the distance of the oldest star to Earth is how far light would travel during the age of mankind: about 6000 light-years.  In 2014, a team of researchers discovered what they believe to be the oldest star yet discovered. It is indeed only 6000 light-years away.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/6012/the-oldest-star-in-the-known-universe&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, stars further away have been discovered, and the farthest visible stars are 13.8 billion light-years away. This is why many [[atheism|atheists]] believe that the Universe is 13.8 billion years old. However, this ignores the possibility of light being created in transit. For more information, see the [[starlight problem]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Planet formation===&lt;br /&gt;
Theories of an old universe insisted that planet formation did not occur until long after the origin of the universe, contrary to the [[Book of Genesis]].  It was not until 2012 that atheistic scientists recognized and reported that planets formed at the &amp;quot;dawn of the universe,&amp;quot; within a small fraction of the universe's age according to evolutionists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0330/Planets-found-at-dawn-of-universe-but-their-existence-is-a-mystery&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Extraterrestrial life===&lt;br /&gt;
For most of the 20th century, scientists typically believed in the existence of extraterrestrial life, despite the lack of any reference to it in the Bible. After spending many billions of dollars looking for such life, and investigating countless reports of UFOs, no such life has been found.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Starlight Problem===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Starlight Problem]] confounds atheistic theories about the universe:  light has reached us from stars that are too far away to transmit the light within the age of the universe.  But the Book of Genesis explains this easily:  &amp;quot;let there be light&amp;quot; means that God created light, not merely stars. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly refers to the number of stars as being innumerable,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''See'' Genesis 15:5, Jeremiah 33:22 and Hebrews 11:12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; despite scientists insisting throughout most of history that there were only about 6000 stars. In the early 17th century [[Galileo]] turned a telescope to the heavens and discovered a great number of stars that had been previously invisible to the naked eye.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://galileo.rice.edu/lib/student_work/astronomy95/orionpleiades.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Not until the 20th century did scientists discover the tremendous number of stars:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/07/22/stars.survey/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:There are &amp;quot;10 times as many stars as grains of sand on all the world's beaches and deserts,&amp;quot; totaling &amp;quot;7 followed by 22 zeros or, more accurately, 70 sextillion.&lt;br /&gt;
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But even that scientific estimate was much too low.  On December 1, 2010, scientists admitted:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/1201/Universe-might-hold-three-times-more-stars-than-previously-thought&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;a cosmic embarrassment of riches – ''the universe appears to hold three times the number of stars many [[astronomer]]s might have estimated only a year ago''.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Uniqueness of stars===&lt;br /&gt;
Although the use of telescopes to chart the outer-reaches of God's heavenly creation was developed around the 16th century in Europe, the Bible accurately hypothesized that every star is unique.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory&amp;quot;- 1 Corinthians 15:41 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/science.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spherical Sun and Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
The Book of Isaiah establishes that the true shape of the earth is a sphere:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|He sits above the sphere of the earth, and its inhabitants look to him like grasshoppers.  He stretches out the galaxies like a curtain, spreading them out like a tent to live under: - [[Isaiah 34-42 (Translated)#Chapter 40|Isaiah 40:22 (CBP]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Likewise, with respect to the [[sun]], the Book of Proverbs 8:27 ([[ESV]]) states:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|When he established the heavens, ... he drew a circle on the face of the deep}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Isaiah was written circa the 8th century BC, and the Book of Proverbs even earlier.  This was centuries before Greek philosophers, beginning with [[Pythagoras]], theorized the earth was round, and it was not discovered until 2012 that the sun is perfectly spherical.  Astronomers were not able to conclude until well into the second millennium of [[Christ]] that the Earth is also a sphere.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earth free floating in space===&lt;br /&gt;
The book of Job states that God &amp;quot;hangs the [[Earth]] on nothing.&amp;quot; It also contrasts with Greek Mythology's belief that [[Atlas]] holds up the Earth, or ancient Hindu and Native American myths that the Earth was on top of a gigantic turtle.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible presaged the modern view that space is in fact empty, which wasn't known until the dawn of the 20th century when ether theories became disfavored.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cosmic Background Radiation===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis Chapter 1]] explains that God created light first, rather than merely stars.  A &amp;quot;big bang&amp;quot; would result in light everywhere, without darkness, and without ripples in cosmic background radiation.  Yet in the 21st century ripples were discovered in cosmic background radiation, which can only be plausibly explained by recognizing that light was created first.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Meteoroids===&lt;br /&gt;
The Revelation of Saint John notes, &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. Revelation 8:8-9 (KJV)}}&lt;br /&gt;
This accurately describes meteoroids, essentially large chunks of rock lit on fire by the shock of entering the earth's atmosphere.  They were not discovered until 1801, and their composition was not otherwise known until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Stellar proper movement===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Job]], a list of challenges are constructed in the form of questions, with the idea that man can't do it, but God can. Among these challenges, two are remarkable: one mentions the ''untying'' of Orion's belt, and the other is the ''binding'' of the Pleiades. Only recently, astronomers could measure the proper movement of those stars; Orion's belt is moving apart, with each star going in a different direction, while the Pleiades are moving together.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Space flight===&lt;br /&gt;
Many theorize that the book of [[Ezekiel]] contains descriptions of spaceships and rockets, as they would have been described by someone thousands of years ago. [http://www.spaceshipsofezekiel.com/ Author Blumrich] has even published an entire book about this.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Expanding universe===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible explains, in 17 different verses, that God &amp;quot;stretched out&amp;quot; the heavens,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.creationists.org/God-streched-out-the-universe-bible-verses.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in other words, expanding the fabric of space-time from a smaller size to a much larger one. Scientists have discovered only in the last 100 years that, by studying the red shift of galaxies, the universe indeed appears to be expanding, or &amp;quot;stretching out.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Water cycle, and the Six days of Creation Week===&lt;br /&gt;
The existence of the water cycle was widely unknown to pagan people's until imperial Roman times. But the Bible described the water cycle over a thousand years before that. In general, see [[Ecclesiastes]] 11:3, [[Job]] 26:8 and [[Amos]] 9:6.&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be a more Biblically central reference to the water cycle: The reports in Genesis 1 of five things that God names (v. 5=two, v. 8=one, v. 10=two) seem to be consistent with five basic features of the geophysical half of Earth's life-support cycle. In Earth sciences, it is known that the total life-support cycle is irreducibly complex in relation to Earth's distance to the Sun, and this complexity maintained on an order of mere days' reserve: flora and fauna are interdependent, their interaction is necessary for the maintenance of the atmosphere, and if any one of those five features suddenly ceased, Earth would fail to support life in a matter of days.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Immense power within atoms alluded to in 2 Peter chapter 3 ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Abomb.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|The [[atomic bomb]] that was dropped on [[Hiroshima]] unleashed the equivalent of about 15 kilotons of TNT.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The immense power within atoms is alluded to in the Bible in 2 Peter chapter 3.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|John Phillips notes that Peter’s prophecy of a great, end-times conflagration of the earth and its atmosphere uses precise terminology that accurately describes a nuclear explosion. Liddell and Scott’s Lexicon define the “elements” as “the components into which matter is divided” (or atoms), and the term “dissolved” comes from the basic Greek word meaning to “loose” that which is bound (as in nuclear fission). The term “great noise” is found nowhere else in the New Testament and signifies “a rushing sound of roaring flames.” The term “fervent heat” is derived from a Greek medical term denoting a fever. But Peter’s use of it in application to inanimate objects is the only such known usage anywhere in Greek literature. Thus, Phillips observes, “Peter describes in accurate terms the untying of the atom and the resulting rushing, fiery destruction which follows it.”&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Impossibility of a Grand Unified Theory===&lt;br /&gt;
Billions of dollars and millions of hours have been wasted by scientists in futile pursuit of a &amp;quot;grand unified theory&amp;quot; for physics.  But [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis]] explains that the creation of light was done in a separate, initial creation, free of darkness or entropy, and thus incapable of theoretical unification with matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Light and color===&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the work of [[Isaac Newton]], white was considered to be the fundamental color of light, and other colors (such as red, green and blue) were formed by adding to white light.  Under that traditional theory, the fullness of all light (a combination of all colors of light) would result in something other than pure white.&lt;br /&gt;
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The transfiguration of Jesus is described with remarkable consistency in all three synoptic [[Gospel]]s: in the fullness of light Jesus and his clothing display an intense white, whiter than any bleach could produce.  This illustrates what was not discovered and accepted until nearly 1700 years later: that white is the combination of other fundamental colors, and the purest white light is formed by a perfectly full combination (see [[Prism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Action-at-a-distance===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Jesus]] demonstrated [[action-at-a-distance]], as recounted in [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]].  Scientists, particularly [[atheists]], denied the possibility of this phenomenon for thousands of years.  When Newton proposed action-at-a-distance as the basis of gravity, scientists continued to reject it, but eventually accepted it as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later the [[Theory of Relativity]] again denied the possibility of action-at-a-distance, but [[quantum mechanics]] subsequently proved that it does occur.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also [[Counterexamples to Relativity]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Quantum mechanics===&lt;br /&gt;
The fundamental principle of [[quantum mechanics]] is that the underlying reality is in random fluctuation, or chaos, until there is intelligent observation of it.  This is precisely what [[Luke 1-8 (Translated)#Luke 4:6|Luke 4:6]] reveals when it quotes the [[devil]] in saying that he has dominion over this world.&lt;br /&gt;
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The world was an abyss of chaos at the moment of creation, as explained in the [[Book of Genesis]].  The order created by God is on a foundation of uncertainty.  The discovery of this in subatomic particles in the 1900s, known as quantum mechanics, confirms the nature of the world as described in Genesis.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff, Matthew 13:24-30, describes a fundamental uncertainty that does not resolve itself until there is observation over time.  The authenticity of a simpler explanation of this parable at Matthew 13:36-43 has been challenged.  The parable may refer to a profound and pervasive chaotic struggle between good and evil, or in quantum mechanics the uncertainty in position and energy.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Observation of the wave function====&lt;br /&gt;
The second chapter of the [[Gospel of John]] describes the conversion of water into wine by [[Jesus]] at a wedding reception. [[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 2|John 2:9]] states: &amp;quot;When the host of the wedding feast tasted the water, it had been made into wine.&amp;quot; This passage implies that the drink was not wine until it had been tasted, or observed. The drink was a superposition of the state of wine and the state of water until it was observed as wine.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 16:19, Jesus draws a then-unusual distinction between what is fixed and what is uncertain by declaring, &amp;quot;Whatever you make binding on earth will be binding in heaven, and whatever you set loose on earth will be set loose in heaven.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Matthew_10-19_%28Translated%29&amp;amp;oldid=870778#Chapter_16&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This may describe the fundamental uncertainty that continues unless and until there is human observation that then causes the wave function to collapse into a particular (&amp;quot;bound&amp;quot;) state.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle====&lt;br /&gt;
Both the Old and New Testaments refer to a fundamental [[uncertainty]] that requires observation to resolve, akin to the [[Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle]] discovered in the 1920s:&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;The earth came to exist in an utterly formless and empty state.&amp;quot; -- [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 1:2]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The master refusing to order the removal of the weeds sowed among the wheat because of the uncertainty in distinguishing between the two until later.&amp;quot; -- [[Matthew 10-19 (Translated)|Matthew 13:24-30]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Wave-particle duality====&lt;br /&gt;
Wave-particle duality, first discovered in the 20th century, allows for a particle to sometimes be subject to gravity and sometimes not.&lt;br /&gt;
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The wave-particle duality was described nearly 2000 years earlier in the Gospel account of Jesus walking on water: [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:45-54]].  A close reading of the passage reveals the wave-like (or light-like) characteristic of the walking on water:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:48-49]] (italics added).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|he walked on the surface of the lake and came to the boat, ''nearly passing it''.  But when they saw him walking on water, they thought it must have been ''a ghost'', and cried out.}}&lt;br /&gt;
In a more general sense, Jesus could be viewed as the &amp;quot;particle&amp;quot; and the [[Holy Spirit]] as the &amp;quot;wave&amp;quot; of God.  A fuller understanding of the [[Trinity]] could have opened the eyes of scientists much earlier to the fundamental wave-particle duality of nature ... '''''and still could'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Quantum tunneling====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Quantum tunneling]] is the ability of particles to move through energy barriers even though ostensibly impossible based on classical laws of mechanical physics.  This was not discovered by scientists until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus proved this was possible in [[John 15-21 (Translated)#Chapter 20|John 20:26]], when he appeared before the [[Apostles]] in a closed room with completely shut doors.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Classical relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
Romans 10:6-7: But the righteousness that is by faith says: &amp;quot;Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ down) 7&amp;quot;or 'Who will descend into the deep?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).&lt;br /&gt;
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Equating ascending into heaven to bringing Christ down is an example of the fact that there is no universal reference frame, and only relative speeds matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Modern relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Theory of Relativity]] denies the possibility of action-at-a-distance.  But several passages in the Bible, such as [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]] and [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)|Matthew 27:51]], describe simultaneous actions from afar.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Second Law of Thermodynamics===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Book of Genesis]] states that the darkness or chaos in the universe can never overcome the light, or order.  This same concept was not discovered in physics until the development of the [[Second Law of Thermodynamics]], which holds that heat (or order or light) always travels in the direction of cold (or disorder or darkness), and never in the opposite direction.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10-11]] explains that the universe shall &amp;quot;wear out&amp;quot; like a &amp;quot;garment&amp;quot;, centuries before the discovery of the physical law that [[entropy]] is always increasing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nature of air===&lt;br /&gt;
Until about 300 years ago, common knowledge believe that the air was &amp;quot;empty&amp;quot; and didn't weigh anything. But [[Job]] 28:25 states, &amp;quot;To establish a '''weight''' for the wind, And apportion the waters by measure&amp;quot; indicating that the divinely inspired author knew the air had substance and weight.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Conservative forces===&lt;br /&gt;
James 1:17 describes the electromagnetic forces (light) as having no &amp;quot;shadow of turning.&amp;quot;  Not understood for nearly 2000 years, this predicts that electromagnetic forces are [[conservative]] such that their [[line integrals]] over a closed loop are zero.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mathematics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See main article: [[Math and the Bible]]''&lt;br /&gt;
===Zero===&lt;br /&gt;
Mathematicians in Western Europe did not discover [[zero]] until many centuries after the Bible was written.  But there are hundreds of references to the concept of zero throughout the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Banach-Tarski Paradox===&lt;br /&gt;
The only miracle described in all four [[Gospels]] is the multiplication of loaves and fish by Jesus, thought for thousands of years to be a mathematical and physical impossibility.  But the 20th century discovery of the so-called [[Banach-Tarski Paradox]] proved a mathematical basis for creating identical copies of an object out of no extra material.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Axiomatization of Arithmetic===&lt;br /&gt;
The full set of axioms for integer arithmetic may be found in the Bible.  For example, [[Luke 9-16 (Translated)|Luke 12:52]] is a striking statement of the commutative law for addition: &amp;quot;For from this point forward there will be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.&amp;quot;  This understanding presaged both later attempts at the axiomatization of arithmetic by Peano and the development of [[abstract algebra]] in the 19th and 20th centuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Infinity===&lt;br /&gt;
Most thinkers scoffed at the concept of [[infinity]] for thousands of years, despite it being referenced in the Bible in many ways.  See, e.g., Psalm 147:4-6 (God's &amp;quot;understanding is infinte&amp;quot;); [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)#20:1|Matthew 20:1-14]] ([[parable]] of the wages for the workers in the vineyard); Matthew 16:26 (one's soul has an infinite value to him, and nothing else can be worth more).&lt;br /&gt;
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But [[Georg Cantor]], deeply inspired by [[Christianity]], established a logical foundation for infinity that revolutionized all of mathematics as a result, with his development of [[set theory]] to accomplish his goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Calculus===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible emphasizes the importance of limits as a key distinction between this world and God; Calculus consists of relying on limits to derive useful results.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.aiias.edu/ict/vol_27/27cc_225-239.htm Norie Grace Rivera-Poblete: &amp;quot;''God and Calculus''&amp;quot;], Institute for Christian Teaching Education Department of [[Seventh-day Adventist]], Prepared for the 27th International Faith and Learning Seminar held at Mission, Muak Lek Saraburi, Thailand December 3 – 15, 2000&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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James 1:17 states that the first and second derivatives of God's light (truth) is zero, more than 1600 years before calculus was discovered: &amp;quot;with [God] there is no variation or shadow of turning.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Shadow%252525252525252520of%252525252525252520Turning&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/no-variation-or-shadow-of-turning-calculus-in-the-bible/ Nathan Albright: ''&amp;quot;No Variation Or Shadow Of Turning: Calculus In The Bible&amp;quot;''], Blog-Entry, Feb 24, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Arithmetic with Negative Numbers===&lt;br /&gt;
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Negative numbers were not fully accepted by mathematicians until the 1800s,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nrich.maths.org/5961&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; including how a negative number dominates the result in multiplication with a positive number, to yield a negative outcome.  Yet Jesus' parable of the sower and the seed, in Matthew 13:1-23, Mark 4:1-8, and Luke 8:4-8, explained the same effect nearly 2000 years earlier.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Indeterminacy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that God is &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  See Job 5:9 (God &amp;quot;does great things and unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 26:1 (&amp;quot;God's Majesty Is Unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 36:26 (&amp;quot;Behold, God is great, and we know him not; the number of his years is unsearchable.&amp;quot;) Psalm 145:3 (&amp;quot;Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised, and his greatness is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Proverbs 25:3 (&amp;quot;As the heavens for height, and the earth for depth, so the heart of kings is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Isaiah 40:28 (&amp;quot;Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Romans 11:33 (&amp;quot;Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!&amp;quot;)' Ephesians 3:8 (&amp;quot;to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;All quotations are to the ESV of the Bible.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John 1:1 teaches that logic is part of God, and thus logic itself must also be &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  For many decades the finest mathematicians thought that the consistency of logic could be proven, until [[Kurt Godel]] (himself a frequent reader of the Bible) proved the indeterminacy, or &amp;quot;unsearchability&amp;quot;, of mathematics.&lt;br /&gt;
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The existence of malicious trolls on the internet is difficult to understand, until one reads Matthew 13:24-30 - the Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crime===&lt;br /&gt;
Mark 4:22 says how nothing can be hid, neither can anything be kept secret. Empirical statistics show that the vast majority of crimes worldwide are solved.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Morality of animals===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 3:1-10]] explains that only humans understand good and evil, and clothe themselves because of it.  Repeatedly scientists have attempted to demonstrate that animals can understand morality also, but every attempt has failed.  No animal (other than humans) has ever been found that clothes itself. However, as limited case, animals do demonstrate altruistic behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Existence of dinosaurs===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Dinosaur]] fossils were not discovered until the 19th century, but the book of Job describes enormous creatures called behemoth and leviathan, the descriptions being similar to dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures.  It may also have referred to another similarly giant now-extinct species. Other dinosaur like creatures mentioned are the cockatrice and satyr &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/behemoth.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Killing methods of lions===&lt;br /&gt;
Until the 1970s naturalists believed that lions killed their prey by biting through the neck or by breaking the neck with a swat of a paw, while the Bible says that lions suffocated their prey. (Nahum 2:12) It was not until the 1970s that it was discovered that the [[Bible]] was correct.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BLions87.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Lions fit their mouth over the mouth and nose of their prey and hold it while it suffocates, in addition to other killing methods.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Giant sea creatures and Jonah===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Jonah (Translated)|Book of Jonah]] describes his survival in the belly of a giant sea creature for 2.5 to 3 days.  Scientists declared this to be impossible due to powerful stomach acids that quickly break down any material and the lack of breathable air inside marine animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010, scientists found the following materials intact in the belly of a gray whale that had died after being stranded on a Northwest beach:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/19/pair-sweat-pants-garbage-beached-whales-stomach/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Gender of worker ants===&lt;br /&gt;
Proverbs 6:6-8 correctly states the sex of worker [[ant]]s (female), using the correct one of the two [[Grammar#Gender|grammatical genders]] available in Biblical [[Hebrew]].  Secular entomologists would not discover that fact until the 19th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=rzwSAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA6&amp;amp;dq=ant+undeveloped+female+worker+date:1700-1850&amp;amp;lr=&amp;amp;as_brr=0&amp;amp;as_pt=ALLTYPES#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false The study of medicine, Volume 5 By John Mason Good]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Harvester ants ===&lt;br /&gt;
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19th century [[Europe]]an naturalists were wrong about [[ant]] behavior - namely the issue of ants/harvesting (Harvester ants). The Bible was correct about ant behavior.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BWilliamsvsAnon71to73.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Hearing and snakes ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The scientific consensus and the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'' both indicated that snakes can't hear.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/snake-charming-and-bible-accuracy  Charmed, I’m sure!] by Calvin Smith&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ed5015.tripod.com/BCobra94.htm The Cobra and the Bible]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Bible said that snakes can hear. 21st century research showed that snakes can hear.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Vegetarian lion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The prophet Isaiah says that there will be a time when the [[lion]] will lay down with the lamb and the lion will eat straw like the ox (Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25). There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:8790lion-wont-eat-meat.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
David Catchpoole wrote at the website of [[Creation Ministries International]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|From 1946 to 1955, A female African lion, born and raised in America, lived her entire lifetime of nine years without ever eating meat.1 In fact, her owners, Georges and Margaret Westbeau,2 alarmed by scientists’ reports that carnivorous animals cannot live without meat, went to great lengths to try to coax their unusual pet (‘Little Tyke’) to develop a taste for it. They even advertised a cash reward for anyone who could devise a meat-containing formula that the lioness would like. The curator of a New York zoo advised the Westbeaus that putting a few drops of blood in Little Tyke’s milk bottle would help in weaning her, but the lioness cub refused to touch it—even when only a single drop of blood had been added.&lt;br /&gt;
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The more knowledgeable animal experts among the many visitors to the Westbeaus’ 100 acre (40 hectare) ranch also proffered advice, but nothing worked. Meanwhile, Little Tyke continued to do extremely well on a daily diet of cooked grain, raw eggs and milk. By four years of age she was fully grown and weighed 352 pounds (160 kg)...&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Westbeau’s observation of the lioness that ‘To condition her stomach she would spend an hour at a time eating the succulent tall grass in the fields’, is also a vivid reminder of the prophecies of Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25, ‘ … the lion will eat straw like the ox.’&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Linguistics==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The Tower of Babel by Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1563.jpg|thumb|350px|The Tower of Babel by [[Pieter Bruegel the Elder]], 1563.]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Common descent theory===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[theory of evolution]] suggests that all languages are descended from a common ancestral language, and for a century (1860 to about 1960) scientists clung to that view.  But now most linguists identify many different families of languages that have no common ancestor, just as described in Genesis 11 with the [[Tower of Babel]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earliest Hebrew writings===&lt;br /&gt;
Skeptics have claimed that [[Hebrew]] writing did not exist before the 6th century B.C.  But a recent Israeli archaeological dig dated four centuries earlier, in the 10th century B.C., included an artifact found at Khirbet Qeiyafa in the Elah Valley.  This artifact contained a written inscription in Hebrew relating to &amp;quot;slaves, widows and orphans.&amp;quot; Haifa University Professor Gershon Galil noted that this disproves the theory that the Bible could not have been written before the 6th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2010/01/08/Bible-may-be-centuries-older-than-thought/UPI-21171262997765/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Economics==&lt;br /&gt;
===Poverty===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus stated that there will always be poverty,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Mark 14:7, Matthew 26:11 and John 12.8.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yet [[liberals]] repeatedly insist that poverty can be eliminated with more government spending.  Every attempt to eliminate poverty has failed just as Jesus predicted. In 1991 [[Ronald Coase]] won a [[Nobel Prize]] in [[Economics]] for the [[Coase Theorem]], which implies that government attempts to reduced poverty will interfere with efficient operation of the economy, and thereby reduce wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Socialism and Capitalism===&lt;br /&gt;
Ecclesiastes 5:18-19 says that [[capitalism]] is a gift from God:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God give the him: for it is his portion. Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Similarly, Ecclesiastes 6:1-2 condemns [[socialism]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Government and Politics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also [[Biblical political foreknowledge]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nation-state===&lt;br /&gt;
Ancient Israel, as described in the [[Old Testament]], was a [[nation-state]] and that model was not utilized again until thousands of years later, well after the Renaissance in Western Europe.  This model of a nation-state has become the modern standard worldwide.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Separation of Powers===&lt;br /&gt;
The separation of powers adopted successfully by the [[U.S. Constitution]] in 1787, with the legislative, executive, and judicial branches having separate authority and jurisdiction, was first described in the Old Testament.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Jeremiah 17:19 and Isaiah 33:22.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Liberal influence on the media===&lt;br /&gt;
The Third [[Three Temptations of Christ|Temptation of Christ]] is to bow down and worship the [[Satan]] in exchange for becoming ruler of the world.  The media plays that role and its influence is predictably liberal and anti-[[Christian]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Engineering==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge about these engineering developments has been proposed:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2191&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|automobiles (Joel 2:3-4); airplanes (Isaiah 31:5, also 40:31); submarines (Revelation 9:1-11); radio (Ecclesiastes 10:20); and television (Revelation 11:3-12)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Classical photography, using negative imaging, was predated by the [[Shroud of Turin]] with respect to the imaging on the Shroud likely due to the light of the [[Resurrection]]. The Shroud ([[Greek]]: σινδών - sindón)  is mentioned in three Gospels: Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46, Luke 23:53, while John 20:5-7 talks about a face cloth or napkin ([[Greek]]: σουδάριον - soudárion - perhaps the [[Sudarium of Oviedo]]), and a piece of fine linen ([[Greek]]: ὀθόνιον - othonion). The description by the eyewitness John implies that his sighting of the Shroud may have confirmed his [[faith]], though he doesn't mention its photograph-like image.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Calvin, who opposed the Catholic Church, wrote a book in 1543 criticizing all material evidence of Jesus and the martyrs.  In it he claimed that because the negative image on the Shroud is not described in the Gospels, it must not be authentic. [[John Calvin]]: ''Traité des Reliques'', Geneve 1543, translated by Valerian Krasinski: ''A treatise on Relics'', Edingburgh 1854&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alleged &amp;quot;contradictions&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge is an underpinning of creation science, and is widely credited by Christian scientists and apologists, including the organizations [[Creation Ministries International]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creation.com/modern-medicine Creation Ministries International on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Answers in Genesis]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i1/medicine.asp Answers in Genesis on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[CreationWiki]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creationwiki.org/index.php/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge  Bible Scientific Foreknowledge]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists and liberals unsuccessfully attempt to discredit the Bible based on science.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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===Value of Pi===&lt;br /&gt;
Two sections of the Bible (1 Kings 7, 23-26, 2 Chronicles, 4, 2-5) appear to indicate that the correct value of [[Pi]] is 3, whereas Pi is, in fact, an irrational number, equalling approximately 3.14159. Atheists, including [[Sam Harris]] and [[Richard Dawkins]], allege that this value indicates the fallacious nature of scripture.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://richarddawkins.net/articles/139 The Richard Dawkins Foundation, ''Reply to a Christian'', Sam Harris -]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, a simple explanation of the claimed &amp;quot;contradiction&amp;quot; is that the Bible records the ratio of the actual object which Hiram created, not that of a mathematical [[sphere]]. The claim that it was round all about does not equate to a claim that it was a perfect sphere, as atheists have claimed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Theology'', Volume 59, Issues 427-438,  Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge (Great Britain), London, 1956, p. 23&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, Pi to one significant digit is 3. Just because the measurement is given to only one significant digit, that does not mean it was precisely that amount.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;There are no instances in the Bible where fractions are used.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of course, since Pi is an irrational number, it would be impossible to give a truly precise measurement. Since decimal notation was not in use in Biblical times, there was no way to express Pi to greater accuracy in the language of the day.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bat as a bird===&lt;br /&gt;
A favorite [[evolutionist]] canard is that [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:13-19]] labels the [[bat]], a [[mammal]], as a [[bird]]. The [[KJV]] translation of &amp;quot;fowl&amp;quot; is simply incorrect, as the Hebrew term '' 'owph'' did not entail the &amp;quot;clade&amp;quot; of birds, but was a non-scientific category simply referring to ''any'' winged creature. A popular Jewish translation, used to explain the laws of keeping kosher, translates the term as &amp;quot;winged flying things.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Rabbits, coneys, and cud===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:5-6]], the Bible states, {{cquote|And the coney ''(or hyrax)'', because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.}} While rabbits do not, in fact, regurgitate food and re-chew it, they have the same jaw motions as animals that do&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/do-badger-and-rabbit-chew-cud&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and thus appeared as cud-chewing to the Jews of Moses's time. Atheists and liberals love to misrepresent this passage only because they are in [[liberal denial]] of the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Number of legs of insects===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:20-23]], the Bible states, {{cquote|All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the &lt;br /&gt;
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But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.}}While this may appear to indicate that insects have four legs (they have six), the passage is in fact referring to the manner in which the grasshopper moves. Grasshoppers have large back legs mainly used for jumping, and not for walking, which is when it uses its smaller four front legs. Thus, the ancient Hebrews were just describing things as they saw them, not according to scientific nomenclature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay:Rebuttal to Biblical scientific foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Biblical political foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christianity and Science]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Prodigal Son]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.creationwiki.org/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge Biblical scientific foreknowledge] by [[CreationWiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/10/scientific-consensus-and-evolutionary.html Jesus vs. the scientific consensus and evolution. Jesus wins!]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Ten of the Top Scientific Facts in the Bible&amp;quot;, Living Waters Films with Ray Comfort. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sMJMXDiH4]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Newton.png|thumb|200px|alt=Isaac Newton, cornerstone of the scientific revolution, based his research on the scientific authority of the [[Bible]].|thumb|[[Portrait]] of [[Isaac Newton]], cornerstone of the [[scientific revolution]], based his research on the scientific authority of the Bible.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' is how the [[Bible]] shows a comprehension of [[science]] far ahead of its time. The Bible is a superb roadmap to future scientific discoveries. Unfortunately [[Bible denier]]s, including many [[Atheism|atheist]]s and [[evolution]]ists, refuse to read the Bible, and '''''their irrational [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|closed-mindedness]] against the Bible obstructs the advancement of science'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Book of Genesis]] gives [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge#Anesthesia|an example of anesthesia]] long before man discovered it in 1846.  And the underlying chaos and [[uncertainty]] in the physical world was explained in the Bible long before [[quantum mechanics]] confirmed it in the 1900s.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' has an additional benefit: it guides a more precise translation of verses that describe scientific-related events, such as the reference to the universe in [[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10]], and the changing of [[Essay:Water into Wine|water into wine]] at the wedding feast.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Geology==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Massive flooding===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheist scientists long opposed a [[young earth]] [[creation|created]] by [[God]] where cataclysmic flooding, such as the [[Great Flood]] described in the Bible, shaped the landscape. However, ample [[counterexamples to an old earth]] exist and the discovery in the Northwest of &amp;quot;giant ripple marks, 50 feet high and 200-500 feet apart&amp;quot; proved that a cataclysmic flood in the region had indeed occurred thousands of years ago. As a result, &amp;quot;[a]mong geologists, the concept of a catastrophic flood came to be universally accepted by the late 1950s.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iafi.org/floods.html The Ice Age Flood Institute reports on the massive floods in the Northwest.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continental drift===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Continental drift]] was  proposed by [[creationist]] Antonio Snider-Pellegrini in 1859 based on [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis 1:9-10]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c001.html Christian Answers explains Antonio Snider's divine inspiration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which states, {{cquote|And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.&lt;br /&gt;
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.}} Because land is no longer all in [[Pangaea|one place]], this implies that the continents have shifted over the six millennia to their current positions. [[Atheists]] and [[scientist]]s who hadn't seen the light of [[creationism]] were in [[liberal denial]] about this concept for a century, until finally accepting its truth. This is just more data that the Bible knew millennia before [[secular]] [[science]] caught up.&lt;br /&gt;
However, The Continents are still connected; under the ocean is land if you dry up the water. This interpretation of this verse is in error, the separation spoken of here is the waters under the sky (Firmament) and the water out in space (beyond the heavens). Comets prove this theory, as many of them contain ice, and today as much as 1% of terrestrial rain comes from extraterrestrial sources.{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}&lt;br /&gt;
The most likely reason for the current position and shape of the land mass is the Flood of Noah. Pangea does not work without flipping, shrinking, and sometimes removing countries entirely. Any Biblical statements of continents is in Genesis 10:25 when Peleg is mentioned &amp;quot;for in his days was the earth divided&amp;quot; this in particular refers to the separation of what today is Russia, Japan, and Alaska, when the oceans arose, and also to the division of the peoples by languages, who migrated together according to their language after the confusing of tongues at the tower of Babel, obviously the migration took place before the oceanic divide which led to the natives of the Far West. Everyone laughed at Columbus, not because they thought earth was flat, but because they had forgotten the Far West (America) was there, and they thought he didn't have nearly enough supplies or a big enough ship to go to Asia the long way around, and they would have been right if he didn't hit the Caribbean first by complete accident. Recent findings of biblical stone tablets, in Byzantine script prove that trade between Europe and the Far West was common prior to the dark age which began in 400 or 500 AD.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Underwater springs===&lt;br /&gt;
Only in modern times have scientists become aware of the enormous underwater springs feeding into the oceans, and the very deep valleys at the bottom of the oceans. However, the Bible repeatedly described this thousands of years earlier in [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 7|Genesis 7:11]], which states, {{cquote|In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.}} Again, in 2 Samuel 22:16, the Bible states that, {{cquote|And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.}}&lt;br /&gt;
And Job 38:16 “Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? Or hast thou walked in the search of the depths?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is ''obvious'' proof to all but [[liberals]] that the Bible had foreknowledge of subcrustal oceans, something the ancient Jews could not have possibly known, and thus proof of the Bible's God-given accuracy and divine nature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Agriculture==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Malthusianism===&lt;br /&gt;
Since Thomas [[Robert Malthus|Malthus's]] 1798 work, ''An Essay on the Principle of Population'', [[liberal]] [[intellectual]]s insisted that the world's population would grow faster than the [[food]] supply and result in mass starvation. However, there are examples in both the [[Old Testament|Old]]{{citation needed|date=September 2015}} and [[New Testament]]s{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}, as well as the example of [[William Bradford]] at Plymouth Colony,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book|last1=Bradford|first1=William|title=The History of Plimoth Plantation|date=1669|pages=135–136}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of the food supply increasing to be more far plentiful than expected, mostly due to faith in [[God|God's]] powers and use of [[conservative]] [[economics]]. Indeed, in modern times [[obesity]] is far more prevalent and harmful than [[hunger]] worldwide, and food production far exceeds the ability to consume even in impoverished nations. Hunger remains a problem only in places with [[liberal]] and/or [[leftist]] political systems that impede food distribution or destroy the [[free market]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Psychogenic hematidrosis ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Psychogenic hematidrosis, which is sweat turning into blood, happens rarely but in the cases it does happen, it usually happens with death row inmates.  In 70 percent of all studies that document this condition, the condition occurs in death row inmates.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjXMsq6SscA Police Detective Examines the Resurrection of Jesus becomes Christian]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus sweat blood (Luke 22:44). The early church was puzzled by the account of Jesus sweating blood given in Scripture and they didn't know what to make of it.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Pleural effusion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The early church was puzzled by the blood and water that came out of Jesus' side when the soldier plunged his spear into him. The blood was not a problem in their understanding, but the water was. Medical science can now explain the water coming out of Jesus' side as being the result of pleural effusion.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Flood ice mummy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The building of the ark.jpg|thumb|The building of the Ark by Bertram of Minden, ancient [[German Painting]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
According to the Bible, a [[Great Flood]] occurred around 3300 B.C., or about 5300 years ago. It involved a cataclysmic rainstorm of a magnitude never seen before or since. For centuries [[atheist]]s and [[liberals]] have mocked it, claiming that it was impossible. However, in 1991, an &amp;quot;ice mummy&amp;quot; was discovered in the [[Alps]]. Scientists located a remarkably preserved ancient body, including even the contents of his last meal, which was due to an extraordinary ice storm. By radiometric [[carbon dating]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nupecc.org/iai2001/report/B44.pdf Radiocarbon dating of the Iceman Ötzi with&lt;br /&gt;
accelerator mass spectrometry&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the scientists discovered that this massive ice storm occurred 5300 years ago, which perfectly matches the Biblical Great Flood.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/icemummies/iceman.html PBS on the &amp;quot;Iceman&amp;quot; in the Alps&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is obvious proof of the Great Flood, as no natural occurrence could possibly explain how somebody came to be preserved by ice in the [[Alps]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest Living Organism===&lt;br /&gt;
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Bristlecone pine trees in California's White Mountains are the oldest living unitary organism.  As predicted by the Bible, they are not as old as 6,000 years but are as old as 5,000 years,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/worlds-oldest-living-things-23385913/image-23386256&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; roughly the time of the [[Great Flood]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===False theories===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus' recognition that the truth would remain hidden from arrogant &amp;quot;intellectuals&amp;quot; while simultaneously revealed to humbler, [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|more openminded]] people. This foreshadowed the creation of theories to pull self-centered intellectual wannabees away from [[God]], such as the [[Theory of Evolution]], the [[Theory of Relativity]], the [[homosexual agenda]], the [[secular]] culture of [[abortion]], [[Communism]], and countless other [[liberal]] and atheistic ideas and ideologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Mankind remains extant===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible predicts that the end of [[mankind]] will not occur by chance, but rather at a time known only to God. Despite the extinction of many species each year throughout history, the expectation by scientists that Earth would have been hit by chance by a massive, extinction-causing meteor, and laws of probability that predict other immense catastrophes, mankind continues and Christianity grows just as Jesus predicted.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Construction of ancient sky-high structures===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible—the [[Book of Genesis]] chapter 11—explains how ancient people arrogantly sought to construct a sky-high &amp;quot;[[Tower of Babel]]&amp;quot; to try to reach [[Heaven]].  Then, in the 1900s, archaeologists discovered the great ziggurat of ancient Ur, located in present-day southern Iraq, having characteristics similar to the biblical description of the Tower of Babel.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bible-history.com/babylonia/BabyloniaThe_Ziggurat.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hometown of Goliath===&lt;br /&gt;
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1 Samuel 17 of the Bible discusses the giant Goliath from a Philistine city named Gath, located in central Israel. In July 2015, archaeologists discovered its entrance in an excavation that began in 1899.  They also uncovered evidence of a massive earthquake that occurred in the eighth century BC, as described in the biblical book of Amos.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiantoday.com/article/gates.to.goliaths.city.discovered/61124.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Effect of Deafness on Speech===&lt;br /&gt;
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For 2000 years after [[Christ]], scientists overlooked the close connection between hearing and speech, and the brain, and are just starting to discover this now.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zdnet.com/article/deafness-can-have-unexpected-consequences-on-speech-patterns/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  But [[Jesus]] illustrated the connection when he cured a problem with speech primarily by opening someone's ears, after which the man &amp;quot;spoke plainly.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mark 7:34-35 ([[ESV]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Common DNA===&lt;br /&gt;
[[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 1|John 1:3]] explains that &amp;quot;All things were made by Him; not one thing was made without Him.&amp;quot;  If something had been made without Him then creatures would exist that had completely different DNA from other creatures.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jesus Christ]] and [[Christianity|Christendom]] have emphasized the important of forgiveness and in the last few decades mental health specialists have increasingly seen the importance of forgiveness to alleviate anger/depression/bitterness and other emotional problems within individuals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2755173/ Indian J Psychiatry. 2009 Apr-Jun; 51(2): 153–156. doi:  10.4103/0019-5545.49459, PMCID: PMC2755173, ''Forgiveness: A note for psychiatrists'' by Prakash Gangdev]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Modern medicine now realizes that obsessing with one's past is a big cause of psychiatric problems.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-flux/201104/5-ways-find-closure-the-past&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Jesus had the same insight 2000 years earlier: &amp;quot;No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the [[kingdom of God]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luke 9:62 ([[ESV]]).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Bible and health practices ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[The Bible and health]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Max Neuberger, writing in his &amp;quot;History of Medicine&amp;quot; states concerning the Mosaic laws: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The commands concern prophylaxis and suppression of epidemics, suppression of venereal disease and prostitution, care of the skin, baths,[17] food, housing and clothing, regulation of labour, sexual life, discipline of the people, etc. Many of these commands, such as Sabbath rest, circumcision, laws concerning food (interdiction of blood and pork), measures concerning menstruating and lying-in women, and those suffering from gonorrhoea, isolation of lepers, and hygiene of the camp, are, in view of the conditions of the climate, surprisingly rational.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Blood clotting on the eighth day===&lt;br /&gt;
In Genesis 17:12, God mandated that Abraham circumcise his sons on the 8th day after birth.  In 1935, it was discovered that Vitamin K, together with prothrombin, causes blood coagulation, (important in any surgical procedure).  On the 8th day, the amount of prothrombin present is elevated above 100% of normal and is therefore the only day in the male’s life in which this will be the case (normally). If surgery is to be performed, day 8 is the perfect day to do it as vitamin K and prothrombin levels are at their peak.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Lifespan===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible puts the maximum lifespan for man at 120 years (Genesis 6:3), the typical lifespan at 70 years and the typical for a good-living person at 80 years (Psalm 90:10).&lt;br /&gt;
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Thousands of years after that was written, despite immense advances in medicine and technology, these figures remain remarkably accurate.  The longest modern recorded life of a man is precisely 120 years (Shigechiyo Izumi), the average lifespan for a man is roughly 70 years, and the average for a good-living man is about 80 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jeanne Calment]] lived to age 122, only two years past 120. She was said to have never worked and used olive oil on her skin, outliving all of her [[feminist]] counterparts.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest human ancestor===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible suggests that the oldest maternal ancestor &amp;amp;#8212; [[Eve]] &amp;amp;#8212; first lived slightly more than 6000 years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The mutation rate of [[mitochondria]] indicates roughly the same date for the most recent common human ancestor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creationwiki.org/Mitochondrial_Eve_lived_only_6500_years_ago_%28Talk.Origins%29&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Anesthesia===&lt;br /&gt;
The first surgical operation described in the Bible was the removal of a rib from [[Adam]], which was performed by first putting Adam into an unconscious,  &amp;quot;deep sleep-like trance.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 2:21]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This was the equivalent of anesthesia &amp;amp;#8212; thousands of years before anesthesia using inhaled ether was developed by William Morton in 1846.  Had scientists and physicians been more [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|openminded]] about Genesis 2:21 (perhaps they had considered it a miracle, and thus impossible for humans to achieve), they may have discovered anesthesia far sooner, and saved many more lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bloodletting hastens death===&lt;br /&gt;
At the time of Jesus and for centuries afterward, arteries and veins were thought to be filled with air, and blood was viewed as something to be used up rather than recirculate.  Bloodletting—the practice of intentionally draining blood from a patient—was common medical practice through the time of [[George Washington]], hastening his death prematurely for reasons not understood until years later.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/37212.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Most victims of crucifixion in Roman times languished on the cross for days. But the Bible describes how Pilate, who crucified many, was surprised at how quickly Jesus passed away. 2000 years later, scientific knowledge has advanced to understand that this was caused by his prior loss of blood during his scourging (being brutally whipped), a punishment typically given ''instead of'' crucifixion.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Homosexuality and disease===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible's prohibition against [[homosexuality]] predated knowledge about the [[Homosexuality and Health|many diseases and disorders associated with homosexuality]], and thus showed scientific wisdom prescient for its time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eyesight===&lt;br /&gt;
The description in the [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Gospel of Mark 8:24]] for the sensation when one's eyesight is restored includes his perception of &amp;quot;trees walking.&amp;quot; This perception was first confirmed nearly 2000 years later as physicians developed medical techniques for restoring eyesight.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This newspaper account is not specific but describes the overall sensation of restored sight: [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-138886/Robot-eye-restore-lost-sight-20-years.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Maximum human height===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheists thought the size of [[Goliath]] in the Bible to be absurdly large (over nine feet tall), until [[Robert Wadlow]] grew to nearly 9 feet tall and was still growing when he died at a young age in 1940.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Leprosy===&lt;br /&gt;
Although leprosy is not as contagious as other infectious diseases, and some forms of it (such as tuberculoid or paucibacillary form are not contagious), Leviticus 13 and 14 set forth rules to prevent epidemics of this disease among the people of Israel.  Western science did not catch up until, in 1663, such laws were introduced in America in an attempt to curb an outbreak of smallpox.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hygiene===&lt;br /&gt;
Millennia before germ theory was proposed in the late 19th century, Leviticus 15 mandated hygiene laws that included bathing, washing of clothing, destruction of contaminated pottery and washing of hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 15:2, Jesus then curbed compulsive hand-washing by explaining why it was no longer typically necessary (in a non-farming, non-medical context) with respect to man's digestive system.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was common thought throughout history that infections and illness resulted from the digestive system, based on unclean hands or food.  Jesus rejected that view, and declared hand-washing before meals to be typically unnecessary.  It took many centuries before science caught up to the Bible on this.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is part of the Jewish kosher law to not eat milk with meat. In some Jewish homes they have separate refrigerators for meat and milk products. It comes from Deuteronomy 14:21 &amp;quot;...Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.&amp;quot; There is evidence that the body has difficulty digesting both meat and milk at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, as part of the Jewish kosher law a pork is on the list of prohibited foods. Under cooked pork can transmit Trichinosis, a parasitic disease that can infect muscle tissue, the brain, and the central nervous system, among other [[parasite]]s and zoonotic diseases.  [[Creation denial|Creation deniers]] can counter this point only with such desperate non-arguments as asking why God had to create trichinae at all and then allow them onto the [[Ark]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fetal Alcohol Syndrome====&lt;br /&gt;
Not discovered until 1973 by American physicians, fetal alcohol syndrome results from harm done to the unborn child in pregnancy due to the mother drinking alcohol.  The Bible, thousands of years earlier, forbade the mother of [[Samson]] from drinking alcohol while pregnant, so that he could become a powerful leader:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;3&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;The angel of the Lord appeared to her and said, “You are barren and childless, but you are going to become pregnant and give birth to a son. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;'''''Now see to it that you drink no wine or other fermented drink''''' and that you do not eat anything unclean. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, dedicated to God from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Judges 13:3-5 (NIV).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:David Macht.jpg|thumbnail|right||200px|Dr. David Macht]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 1953 Dr. [http://www.creationwiki.org/David_Macht David Macht], a Johns Hopkins researcher, conducted toxicity tests on many different kinds of animals and fish and concluded that the toxicity of Levitically [[Mosaic law and unclean animals|&amp;quot;unclean&amp;quot; animals]] was higher than that of the [[Mosaic law and clean animals|&amp;quot;clean&amp;quot; animals]], and that the correlation with the description in Leviticus was 100%.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht1&amp;gt;Macht, David I., MD. &amp;quot;[http://members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/Macht1953.pdf An Experimental Pharmacological Appreciation of Levitcus XI and Deuteronomy XIV].&amp;quot; ''Bulletin of the History of Medicine'' 27(5):444-450, September–October, 1953. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Macht's study in terms of classifying kosher and non-kosher animals matched the kosher classification performed by James W. Atz, Ph.D., Curator and Dean Bibliographer in the Department of Ichthyology of the American Museum of Natural History, NY, NY and Adjunct Professor of Biology, Graduate School of Arts and Science on New York University. Dr. Atz's list of kosher and non-kosher animals was published by the Orthodox Union in Kosher Guide and in the Orthodox Union Kosher Consumer Directory.&amp;lt;ref name=Atz&amp;gt;Atz, James W., contrib. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fish/ KASHRUT.COM - Kosher and Non-kosher fish]&amp;quot; Scharf Associates, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to a list of kosher and non-kosher fish published by the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, deciding what fish have scales, in the Orthodox Jewish community, appears to involve semantics as scales which are not visible to the human eye or scales that cannot be removed without tearing the skin are not considered &amp;quot;scales&amp;quot; in terms of the Torah law for determining which fish are kosher. It appears that Jewish religious authorities do appeal to well known Torah commentators.&amp;lt;ref name=Goldberg&amp;gt;Goldberg, Chaim. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fishfaq/ Consumers’ FAQ’s on Kosher fish].&amp;quot; Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, 2004. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Also, Dr. Macht's classification of swans as kosher is in accordance with the research done at Ohr Somayach Institutions in Jerusalem, Israel.&amp;lt;ref name=ask1&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://ohr.edu/ask/ask210.htm Ask the Rabbi - Are swans kosher]?&amp;quot; Ohr Somayach Website, Ohr.edu, October 24, 1998. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, Dr. Macht states in the peer reviewed journal ''Science'' that the toxicology test he used was a reliable method for detecting zoological toxins as it was a toxicology test sensitive to these type of toxins, and therefore one could conclude it was also suitable for testing the toxicity levels of fish, meat, and poultry.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht3&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. , Science 1930, 71 :302&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (The toxicological method that Dr. Macht used was also cited in the Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht2&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. and Macht, M.B. ''Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine'' 1941, 26: 597&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) In addition, Dr. Macht was an expert in cobra venom, which is a zoological toxin. Macht's conclusions, however, were challenged by three of his science community peers in a Seventh Day Adventist publication although one partially affirmed his study.&amp;lt;ref name=Harris&amp;gt;Harris, Lester E., Jr. &amp;quot;[https://archive.is/20070709234205/members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/web/ministry-1954-March-p37.htm This Question of Unclean Meats].&amp;quot; Ministry Magazine, March 1953, p37-38. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This was partly due to a likely unfamiliarity with what food is kosher and non-kosher. Also, perhaps they were unfamiliar with the toxicity test Dr. Macht used, and its apparent effectiveness in testing zoological toxins.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the short term, eating non-kosher food often appears to have no dramatic ill effects in general. For example, the Arabs, who do not eat kosher, consider camel to be a delicacy. Clearly, non-kosher Arabs do not fall dead right after eating camel meat. However, the long term optimality of eating clean versus unclean meat is an unanswered question of science. Also, eating non-kosher foods clearly has some nutritional benefit. For example, shrimp and pork contain protein. The New Testament declares, {{Bible quote|For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5|version=NKJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In regard to the aforementioned verse, it could be argued that prayer does sanctify food. The Bible has plenty of verses regarding God's protection. Also, it could be argued that the benefits outweigh the costs in all foods and thus all food is good. Clearly there is  some nutritional goodness in foods that the Torah declared unclean (for example, shrimp has protein).  What foods are optimal from an empirically tested science viewpoint is often controversial. In short, in regard to eating strictly a kosher diet versus a non-kosher diet, science has no definitive answers at the present time. From a Christian theological point of view, it could be argued that food should not be an impediment to anyone making a decision to become a Christian. It should be noted that orthodox Christian believers in Biblical scientific foreknowledge believe that Christians can eat the food that was declared unclean in the Old Testament, and {{Bible ref|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5}} and {{Bible ref|book=Galations|chap=2|verses=7-16}} make this very clear.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to the aforementioned study testing kosher and non-kosher foods for toxicity levels, Macht developed evidence indicating that combining meat and milk tended to be more toxic than either foodstuff alone.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4&amp;gt;David I. Macht, Medical Leaves 1940; 3:174-184&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In addition, he compared conventional animal slaughtering versus kosher slaughtering and determined that kosher slaughtering produced less toxic meat.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 1985 study by Nanji and French found that there was a significant correlation between cirrhosis and pork consumption (Macht claimed that swine was more toxic than the animal meat the Bible called clean).&amp;lt;ref name=Nanji&amp;gt;Nanji AA, and French SW. &amp;quot;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&amp;amp;db=PubMed&amp;amp;list_uids=2858627&amp;amp;dopt=Abstract Relationship between pork consumption and cirrhosis].&amp;quot; ''Lancet'' 1985 Mar 23, 1(8430):681-3. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Modern pork production methods are different from ancient methods of raising pigs, so the result of this study might be hard to apply to the ancients or those who raise pigs by organic farming methods, without the use of hormones or antibiotics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jane Cahill reported in ''Biblical Archaeological Review'' that the toilets of a Jewish household in [[Jerusalem]] were examined and no [[parasite]]s or infectious agents were found.&amp;lt;ref name=Cahill&amp;gt;[http://cojs.org/cojswiki/It_Had_to_Happen,_Jane_M._Cahill,_Karl_Reinhard,_David_Tarler_and_Peter_Warnock,_BAR_17:03,_May/Jun_1991. It had to happen, Scientist Examines Ancient Bathrooms of Romans 586 B.C.] by Jane Cahill and Peter Warnock. BAR May/June 1991&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Today, some &amp;quot;alternative medicine&amp;quot; practitioners do not recommend pork to their patients. Their reasons include the possible content of hormones, antibiotics, and pesticides, and also the undiscriminating diet of the pig. Joseph Mercola, DO, who has a private practice in alternative general medicine, writes:{{cquote|Pigs are scavenger animals and will eat just about anything. Their appetite for less-than-wholesome foods makes pigs a breeding ground for potentially dangerous infections. Even cooking pork for long periods is not enough to kill many of the retroviruses and other parasites that many of them harbor.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola&amp;gt;Mercola, Joseph, DO, ed. &amp;quot;[http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/07/12/are-there-deadly-superbugs-in-your-pork.aspx?source=nl Are There Deadly Superbugs In Your Pork]?&amp;quot; &amp;lt;http://www.mercola.com/&amp;gt;, July 12, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Mercola does not even recommend pasture-raised pork, because wild boars will often infect herds of pork with [[Trichinella spiralis]] or other parasites.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Feasibility of abiogenesis===&lt;br /&gt;
Although scientists dismissed ideas involving [[abiogenesis]], or the process from which life emerges from non-living material, as nothing more than archaic beliefs in [[spontaneous generation]], the Bible very clearly depicts an occurrence of this phenomenon, for beginning in Genesis 1:20, God creates life from nothing. It was not until the early 20th century that science finally began to accept the viability of abiogenesis, a view that the Bible had held for almost 2000 years, except that [[atheists]] falsely claim that abiogenesis is somehow possible without a creator. For addition information, please see [http://creation.com/origin-of-life origin of life]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Awareness while unborn===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Abortion]] advocates argue that it is ok to terminate a baby while dismissing the pain inflicted by ending an innocent life. They argue that a fetus cannot feel pain because senses are incomplete. There is a heart-beating human in the womb that can feel even though still unborn and developing. In modern times, we now know the baby in the womb is alert, aware of their mother's emotions, recognizes voices, responds to stimuli and music. The Bible tells us the baby feels (1 Luke 44), ''&amp;quot;the babe leaps for joy in Elizabeth’s womb at the sound of Mary’s voice.&amp;quot;'' The inwomb developing baby, John the Baptist, notices the presence of the unborn [[Lord]] in [[Mary]], and is excited. In addition (St. Paul to the Galatians 1:15), ''&amp;quot;God… from my mother’s womb had set me apart and called me through his grace.&amp;quot;'' Paul's very first thought, feeling awareness, began while unborn.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Embalming===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mark 9-16 (Translated)#Chapter 14|Mark 14:3-8]] describes an embalming process to preserve a body after death, which was not discovered in the West until 1867.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Significance of blood===&lt;br /&gt;
The Old Testament teaches that the [[life]] of all flesh is its [[blood]] ({{Bible ref|book=Leviticus|chap=17|verses=13-14|version=KJV}}).  Secular science remained ignorant of the properties and circulation of blood until the 17th century A.D.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12_notes.htm Net Bible: Notes] to [http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12.htm#1234 Deuteronomy 12:23] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Menstruation===&lt;br /&gt;
The Biblical laws concerning [[menstruation]], including the setting apart of the menstruating woman and the prohibition on intimacy during menstruation, address health concerns that were not known to secular science until the 20th century.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Also, modern science has only very recently discovered that following such rules dramatically reduces the rate of illegitimacy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120604182027.htm How Religion Promotes Confidence About Paternity]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cloning and a Common X Chromosome===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bible ref|book=Genesis|chap=2|verses=21-22|version=KJV}} records that God made a [[woman]] out of one of [[Adam]]'s [[rib]]s.  Secular scientists did not believe that [[cloning]] such a complex organism (apart from plants) was possible until 1997.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml Cloning Fact Sheet] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It should be noted, however, that this is not strictly 'cloning' as a clone would be identical to its original, most obviously in terms of its sex. Women can be cloned from the genetic material of men, but not the other way around, since women lack a Y chromosome. Women have the same X chromosome as men, but this was not discovered until the late 1800s. The Book of Genesis explained this thousands years earlier, describing how the first woman was created directly from man. While a clone of a person is their genetic duplicate, equivalent to an identical twin, the risks of inbreeding had not yet arisen, since God created DNA perfectly and it only degraded later (see [[Cain]] for more details). Because of this, the divine commandments against inbreeding (in the next section) had not yet been given.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inbreeding===&lt;br /&gt;
Leviticus 18:7-11 elaborates in detail the relationships it regards as incestuous unions, to forbid inbreeding. Only in modern times has secular science caught up and been able to scientifically explain the harm to future generations of inbreeding.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Distance of Oldest Star to Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Genesis implies that the distance of the oldest star to Earth is how far light would travel during the age of mankind: about 6000 light-years.  In 2014, a team of researchers discovered that the oldest star is indeed only 6000 light-years away.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/6012/the-oldest-star-in-the-known-universe&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Planet formation===&lt;br /&gt;
Theories of an old universe insisted that planet formation did not occur until long after the origin of the universe, contrary to the [[Book of Genesis]].  It was not until 2012 that atheistic scientists recognized and reported that planets formed at the &amp;quot;dawn of the universe,&amp;quot; within a small fraction of the universe's age according to evolutionists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0330/Planets-found-at-dawn-of-universe-but-their-existence-is-a-mystery&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Extraterrestrial life===&lt;br /&gt;
For most of the 20th century, scientists typically believed in the existence of extraterrestrial life, despite the lack of any reference to it in the Bible. After spending many billions of dollars looking for such life, and investigating countless reports of UFOs, no such life has been found.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Starlight Problem===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Starlight Problem]] confounds atheistic theories about the universe:  light has reached us from stars that are too far away to transmit the light within the age of the universe.  But the Book of Genesis explains this easily:  &amp;quot;let there be light&amp;quot; means that God created light, not merely stars. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Number of stars===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible repeatedly refers to the number of stars as being innumerable,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''See'' Genesis 15:5, Jeremiah 33:22 and Hebrews 11:12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; despite scientists insisting throughout most of history that there were only about 6000 stars. In the early 17th century [[Galileo]] turned a telescope to the heavens and discovered a great number of stars that had been previously invisible to the naked eye.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://galileo.rice.edu/lib/student_work/astronomy95/orionpleiades.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Not until the 20th century did scientists discover the tremendous number of stars:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/07/22/stars.survey/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:There are &amp;quot;10 times as many stars as grains of sand on all the world's beaches and deserts,&amp;quot; totaling &amp;quot;7 followed by 22 zeros or, more accurately, 70 sextillion.&lt;br /&gt;
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But even that scientific estimate was much too low.  On December 1, 2010, scientists admitted:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/1201/Universe-might-hold-three-times-more-stars-than-previously-thought&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;a cosmic embarrassment of riches – ''the universe appears to hold three times the number of stars many [[astronomer]]s might have estimated only a year ago''.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Uniqueness of stars===&lt;br /&gt;
Although the use of telescopes to chart the outer-reaches of God's heavenly creation was developed around the 16th century in Europe, the Bible accurately hypothesized that every star is unique.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There is one glory of the sun, another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory&amp;quot;- 1 Corinthians 15:41 &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.clarifyingchristianity.com/science.shtml&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spherical Sun and Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
The Book of Isaiah establishes that the true shape of the earth is a sphere:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|He sits above the sphere of the earth, and its inhabitants look to him like grasshoppers.  He stretches out the galaxies like a curtain, spreading them out like a tent to live under: - [[Isaiah 34-42 (Translated)#Chapter 40|Isaiah 40:22 (CBP]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Likewise, with respect to the [[sun]], the Book of Proverbs 8:27 ([[ESV]]) states:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|When he established the heavens, ... he drew a circle on the face of the deep}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Isaiah was written circa the 8th century BC, and the Book of Proverbs even earlier.  This was centuries before Greek philosophers, beginning with [[Pythagoras]], theorized the earth was round, and it was not discovered until 2012 that the sun is perfectly spherical.  Astronomers were not able to conclude until well into the second millennium of [[Christ]] that the Earth is also a sphere.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earth free floating in space===&lt;br /&gt;
The book of Job states that God &amp;quot;hangs the [[Earth]] on nothing.&amp;quot; It also contrasts with Greek Mythology's belief that [[Atlas]] holds up the Earth, or ancient Hindu and Native American myths that the Earth was on top of a gigantic turtle.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible presaged the modern view that space is in fact empty, which wasn't known until the dawn of the 20th century when ether theories became disfavored.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cosmic Background Radiation===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis Chapter 1]] explains that God created light first, rather than merely stars.  A &amp;quot;big bang&amp;quot; would result in light everywhere, without darkness, and without ripples in cosmic background radiation.  Yet in the 21st century ripples were discovered in cosmic background radiation, which can only be plausibly explained by recognizing that light was created first.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Meteoroids===&lt;br /&gt;
The Revelation of Saint John notes, &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. Revelation 8:8-9 (KJV)}}&lt;br /&gt;
This accurately describes meteoroids, essentially large chunks of rock lit on fire by the shock of entering the earth's atmosphere.  They were not discovered until 1801, and their composition was not otherwise known until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Stellar proper movement===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Job]], a list of challenges are constructed in the form of questions, with the idea that man can't do it, but God can. Among these challenges, two are remarkable: one mentions the ''untying'' of Orion's belt, and the other is the ''binding'' of the Pleiades. Only recently, astronomers could measure the proper movement of those stars; Orion's belt is moving apart, with each star going in a different direction, while the Pleiades are moving together.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Space flight===&lt;br /&gt;
Many theorize that the book of [[Ezekiel]] contains descriptions of spaceships and rockets, as they would have been described by someone thousands of years ago. [http://www.spaceshipsofezekiel.com/ Author Blumrich] has even published an entire book about this.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Expanding universe===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible explains, in 17 different verses, that God &amp;quot;stretched out&amp;quot; the heavens,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.creationists.org/God-streched-out-the-universe-bible-verses.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in other words, expanding the fabric of space-time from a smaller size to a much larger one. Scientists have discovered only in the last 100 years that, by studying the red shift of galaxies, the universe indeed appears to be expanding, or &amp;quot;stretching out.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Water cycle, and the Six days of Creation Week===&lt;br /&gt;
The existence of the water cycle was widely unknown to pagan people's until imperial Roman times. But the Bible described the water cycle over a thousand years before that. In general, see [[Ecclesiastes]] 11:3, [[Job]] 26:8 and [[Amos]] 9:6.&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be a more Biblically central reference to the water cycle: The reports in Genesis 1 of five things that God names (v. 5=two, v. 8=one, v. 10=two) seem to be consistent with five basic features of the geophysical half of Earth's life-support cycle. In Earth sciences, it is known that the total life-support cycle is irreducibly complex in relation to Earth's distance to the Sun, and this complexity maintained on an order of mere days' reserve: flora and fauna are interdependent, their interaction is necessary for the maintenance of the atmosphere, and if any one of those five features suddenly ceased, Earth would fail to support life in a matter of days.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Immense power within atoms alluded to in 2 Peter chapter 3 ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Abomb.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|The [[atomic bomb]] that was dropped on [[Hiroshima]] unleashed the equivalent of about 15 kilotons of TNT.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The immense power within atoms is alluded to in the Bible in 2 Peter chapter 3.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|John Phillips notes that Peter’s prophecy of a great, end-times conflagration of the earth and its atmosphere uses precise terminology that accurately describes a nuclear explosion. Liddell and Scott’s Lexicon define the “elements” as “the components into which matter is divided” (or atoms), and the term “dissolved” comes from the basic Greek word meaning to “loose” that which is bound (as in nuclear fission). The term “great noise” is found nowhere else in the New Testament and signifies “a rushing sound of roaring flames.” The term “fervent heat” is derived from a Greek medical term denoting a fever. But Peter’s use of it in application to inanimate objects is the only such known usage anywhere in Greek literature. Thus, Phillips observes, “Peter describes in accurate terms the untying of the atom and the resulting rushing, fiery destruction which follows it.”&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Impossibility of a Grand Unified Theory===&lt;br /&gt;
Billions of dollars and millions of hours have been wasted by scientists in futile pursuit of a &amp;quot;grand unified theory&amp;quot; for physics.  But [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis]] explains that the creation of light was done in a separate, initial creation, free of darkness or entropy, and thus incapable of theoretical unification with matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Light and color===&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the work of [[Isaac Newton]], white was considered to be the fundamental color of light, and other colors (such as red, green and blue) were formed by adding to white light.  Under that traditional theory, the fullness of all light (a combination of all colors of light) would result in something other than pure white.&lt;br /&gt;
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The transfiguration of Jesus is described with remarkable consistency in all three synoptic [[Gospel]]s: in the fullness of light Jesus and his clothing display an intense white, whiter than any bleach could produce.  This illustrates what was not discovered and accepted until nearly 1700 years later: that white is the combination of other fundamental colors, and the purest white light is formed by a perfectly full combination (see [[Prism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Action-at-a-distance===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Jesus]] demonstrated [[action-at-a-distance]], as recounted in [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]].  Scientists, particularly [[atheists]], denied the possibility of this phenomenon for thousands of years.  When Newton proposed action-at-a-distance as the basis of gravity, scientists continued to reject it, but eventually accepted it as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later the [[Theory of Relativity]] again denied the possibility of action-at-a-distance, but [[quantum mechanics]] subsequently proved that it does occur.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also [[Counterexamples to Relativity]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Quantum mechanics===&lt;br /&gt;
The fundamental principle of [[quantum mechanics]] is that the underlying reality is in random fluctuation, or chaos, until there is intelligent observation of it.  This is precisely what [[Luke 1-8 (Translated)#Luke 4:6|Luke 4:6]] reveals when it quotes the [[devil]] in saying that he has dominion over this world.&lt;br /&gt;
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The world was an abyss of chaos at the moment of creation, as explained in the [[Book of Genesis]].  The order created by God is on a foundation of uncertainty.  The discovery of this in subatomic particles in the 1900s, known as quantum mechanics, confirms the nature of the world as described in Genesis.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff, Matthew 13:24-30, describes a fundamental uncertainty that does not resolve itself until there is observation over time.  The authenticity of a simpler explanation of this parable at Matthew 13:36-43 has been challenged.  The parable may refer to a profound and pervasive chaotic struggle between good and evil, or in quantum mechanics the uncertainty in position and energy.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Observation of the wave function====&lt;br /&gt;
The second chapter of the [[Gospel of John]] describes the conversion of water into wine by [[Jesus]] at a wedding reception. [[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 2|John 2:9]] states: &amp;quot;When the host of the wedding feast tasted the water, it had been made into wine.&amp;quot; This passage implies that the drink was not wine until it had been tasted, or observed. The drink was a superposition of the state of wine and the state of water until it was observed as wine.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 16:19, Jesus draws a then-unusual distinction between what is fixed and what is uncertain by declaring, &amp;quot;Whatever you make binding on earth will be binding in heaven, and whatever you set loose on earth will be set loose in heaven.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Matthew_10-19_%28Translated%29&amp;amp;oldid=870778#Chapter_16&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This may describe the fundamental uncertainty that continues unless and until there is human observation that then causes the wave function to collapse into a particular (&amp;quot;bound&amp;quot;) state.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle====&lt;br /&gt;
Both the Old and New Testaments refer to a fundamental [[uncertainty]] that requires observation to resolve, akin to the [[Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle]] discovered in the 1920s:&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;The earth came to exist in an utterly formless and empty state.&amp;quot; -- [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 1:2]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The master refusing to order the removal of the weeds sowed among the wheat because of the uncertainty in distinguishing between the two until later.&amp;quot; -- [[Matthew 10-19 (Translated)|Matthew 13:24-30]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Wave-particle duality====&lt;br /&gt;
Wave-particle duality, first discovered in the 20th century, allows for a particle to sometimes be subject to gravity and sometimes not.&lt;br /&gt;
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The wave-particle duality was described nearly 2000 years earlier in the Gospel account of Jesus walking on water: [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:45-54]].  A close reading of the passage reveals the wave-like (or light-like) characteristic of the walking on water:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:48-49]] (italics added).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|he walked on the surface of the lake and came to the boat, ''nearly passing it''.  But when they saw him walking on water, they thought it must have been ''a ghost'', and cried out.}}&lt;br /&gt;
In a more general sense, Jesus could be viewed as the &amp;quot;particle&amp;quot; and the [[Holy Spirit]] as the &amp;quot;wave&amp;quot; of God.  A fuller understanding of the [[Trinity]] could have opened the eyes of scientists much earlier to the fundamental wave-particle duality of nature ... '''''and still could'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Quantum tunneling====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Quantum tunneling]] is the ability of particles to move through energy barriers even though ostensibly impossible based on classical laws of mechanical physics.  This was not discovered by scientists until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus proved this was possible in [[John 15-21 (Translated)#Chapter 20|John 20:26]], when he appeared before the [[Apostles]] in a closed room with completely shut doors.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Classical relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
Romans 10:6-7: But the righteousness that is by faith says: &amp;quot;Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ down) 7&amp;quot;or 'Who will descend into the deep?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).&lt;br /&gt;
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Equating ascending into heaven to bringing Christ down is an example of the fact that there is no universal reference frame, and only relative speeds matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Modern relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Theory of Relativity]] denies the possibility of action-at-a-distance.  But several passages in the Bible, such as [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]] and [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)|Matthew 27:51]], describe simultaneous actions from afar.&lt;br /&gt;
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The list of [[Counterexamples to Relativity]] has grown recently, and modern experiments in quantum mechanics have confirmed action-at-a-distance.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Second Law of Thermodynamics===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Book of Genesis]] states that the darkness or chaos in the universe can never overcome the light, or order.  This same concept was not discovered in physics until the development of the [[Second Law of Thermodynamics]], which holds that heat (or order or light) always travels in the direction of cold (or disorder or darkness), and never in the opposite direction.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10-11]] explains that the universe shall &amp;quot;wear out&amp;quot; like a &amp;quot;garment&amp;quot;, centuries before the discovery of the physical law that [[entropy]] is always increasing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nature of air===&lt;br /&gt;
Until about 300 years ago, common knowledge believe that the air was &amp;quot;empty&amp;quot; and didn't weigh anything. But [[Job]] 28:25 states, &amp;quot;To establish a '''weight''' for the wind, And apportion the waters by measure&amp;quot; indicating that the divinely inspired author knew the air had substance and weight.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Conservative forces===&lt;br /&gt;
James 1:17 describes the electromagnetic forces (light) as having no &amp;quot;shadow of turning.&amp;quot;  Not understood for nearly 2000 years, this predicts that electromagnetic forces are [[conservative]] such that their [[line integrals]] over a closed loop are zero.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mathematics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See main article: [[Math and the Bible]]''&lt;br /&gt;
===Zero===&lt;br /&gt;
Mathematicians in Western Europe did not discover [[zero]] until many centuries after the Bible was written.  But there are hundreds of references to the concept of zero throughout the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Banach-Tarski Paradox===&lt;br /&gt;
The only miracle described in all four [[Gospels]] is the multiplication of loaves and fish by Jesus, thought for thousands of years to be a mathematical and physical impossibility.  But the 20th century discovery of the so-called [[Banach-Tarski Paradox]] proved a mathematical basis for creating identical copies of an object out of no extra material.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Axiomatization of Arithmetic===&lt;br /&gt;
The full set of axioms for integer arithmetic may be found in the Bible.  For example, [[Luke 9-16 (Translated)|Luke 12:52]] is a striking statement of the commutative law for addition: &amp;quot;For from this point forward there will be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.&amp;quot;  This understanding presaged both later attempts at the axiomatization of arithmetic by Peano and the development of [[abstract algebra]] in the 19th and 20th centuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Infinity===&lt;br /&gt;
Most thinkers scoffed at the concept of [[infinity]] for thousands of years, despite it being referenced in the Bible in many ways.  See, e.g., Psalm 147:4-6 (God's &amp;quot;understanding is infinte&amp;quot;); [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)#20:1|Matthew 20:1-14]] ([[parable]] of the wages for the workers in the vineyard); Matthew 16:26 (one's soul has an infinite value to him, and nothing else can be worth more).&lt;br /&gt;
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But [[Georg Cantor]], deeply inspired by [[Christianity]], established a logical foundation for infinity that revolutionized all of mathematics as a result, with his development of [[set theory]] to accomplish his goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Calculus===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible emphasizes the importance of limits as a key distinction between this world and God; Calculus consists of relying on limits to derive useful results.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.aiias.edu/ict/vol_27/27cc_225-239.htm Norie Grace Rivera-Poblete: &amp;quot;''God and Calculus''&amp;quot;], Institute for Christian Teaching Education Department of [[Seventh-day Adventist]], Prepared for the 27th International Faith and Learning Seminar held at Mission, Muak Lek Saraburi, Thailand December 3 – 15, 2000&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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James 1:17 states that the first and second derivatives of God's light (truth) is zero, more than 1600 years before calculus was discovered: &amp;quot;with [God] there is no variation or shadow of turning.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Shadow%252525252525252520of%252525252525252520Turning&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/no-variation-or-shadow-of-turning-calculus-in-the-bible/ Nathan Albright: ''&amp;quot;No Variation Or Shadow Of Turning: Calculus In The Bible&amp;quot;''], Blog-Entry, Feb 24, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Arithmetic with Negative Numbers===&lt;br /&gt;
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Negative numbers were not fully accepted by mathematicians until the 1800s,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nrich.maths.org/5961&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; including how a negative number dominates the result in multiplication with a positive number, to yield a negative outcome.  Yet Jesus' parable of the sower and the seed, in Matthew 13:1-23, Mark 4:1-8, and Luke 8:4-8, explained the same effect nearly 2000 years earlier.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Indeterminacy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that God is &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  See Job 5:9 (God &amp;quot;does great things and unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 26:1 (&amp;quot;God's Majesty Is Unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 36:26 (&amp;quot;Behold, God is great, and we know him not; the number of his years is unsearchable.&amp;quot;) Psalm 145:3 (&amp;quot;Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised, and his greatness is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Proverbs 25:3 (&amp;quot;As the heavens for height, and the earth for depth, so the heart of kings is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Isaiah 40:28 (&amp;quot;Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Romans 11:33 (&amp;quot;Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!&amp;quot;)' Ephesians 3:8 (&amp;quot;to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;All quotations are to the ESV of the Bible.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John 1:1 teaches that logic is part of God, and thus logic itself must also be &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  For many decades the finest mathematicians thought that the consistency of logic could be proven, until [[Kurt Godel]] (himself a frequent reader of the Bible) proved the indeterminacy, or &amp;quot;unsearchability&amp;quot;, of mathematics.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trolls===&lt;br /&gt;
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The existence of malicious trolls on the internet is difficult to understand, until one reads Matthew 13:24-30 - the Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crime===&lt;br /&gt;
Mark 4:22 says how nothing can be hid, neither can anything be kept secret. Empirical statistics show that the vast majority of crimes worldwide are solved.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Morality of animals===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 3:1-10]] explains that only humans understand good and evil, and clothe themselves because of it.  Repeatedly scientists have attempted to demonstrate that animals can understand morality also, but every attempt has failed.  No animal (other than humans) has ever been found that clothes itself. However, as limited case, animals do demonstrate altruistic behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Existence of dinosaurs===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Dinosaur]] fossils were not discovered until the 19th century, but the book of Job describes enormous creatures called behemoth and leviathan, the descriptions being similar to dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures.  It may also have referred to another similarly giant now-extinct species. Other dinosaur like creatures mentioned are the cockatrice and satyr &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/behemoth.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Killing methods of lions===&lt;br /&gt;
Until the 1970s naturalists believed that lions killed their prey by biting through the neck or by breaking the neck with a swat of a paw, while the Bible says that lions suffocated their prey. (Nahum 2:12) It was not until the 1970s that it was discovered that the [[Bible]] was correct.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BLions87.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Lions fit their mouth over the mouth and nose of their prey and hold it while it suffocates, in addition to other killing methods.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Giant sea creatures and Jonah===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Jonah (Translated)|Book of Jonah]] describes his survival in the belly of a giant sea creature for 2.5 to 3 days.  Scientists declared this to be impossible due to powerful stomach acids that quickly break down any material and the lack of breathable air inside marine animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010, scientists found the following materials intact in the belly of a gray whale that had died after being stranded on a Northwest beach:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/19/pair-sweat-pants-garbage-beached-whales-stomach/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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*a pair of sweat pants &lt;br /&gt;
*a golf ball&lt;br /&gt;
*over 20 plastic bags&lt;br /&gt;
*small towels&lt;br /&gt;
*duct tape&lt;br /&gt;
*surgical gloves&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, many sea creatures have gone extinct in the thousands of years since Jonah lived.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Gender of worker ants===&lt;br /&gt;
Proverbs 6:6-8 correctly states the sex of worker [[ant]]s (female), using the correct one of the two [[Grammar#Gender|grammatical genders]] available in Biblical [[Hebrew]].  Secular entomologists would not discover that fact until the 19th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=rzwSAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA6&amp;amp;dq=ant+undeveloped+female+worker+date:1700-1850&amp;amp;lr=&amp;amp;as_brr=0&amp;amp;as_pt=ALLTYPES#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false The study of medicine, Volume 5 By John Mason Good]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Harvester ants ===&lt;br /&gt;
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19th century [[Europe]]an naturalists were wrong about [[ant]] behavior - namely the issue of ants/harvesting (Harvester ants). The Bible was correct about ant behavior.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BWilliamsvsAnon71to73.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Hearing and snakes ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The scientific consensus and the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'' both indicated that snakes can't hear.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/snake-charming-and-bible-accuracy  Charmed, I’m sure!] by Calvin Smith&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ed5015.tripod.com/BCobra94.htm The Cobra and the Bible]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Bible said that snakes can hear. 21st century research showed that snakes can hear.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Vegetarian lion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The prophet Isaiah says that there will be a time when the [[lion]] will lay down with the lamb and the lion will eat straw like the ox (Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25). There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:8790lion-wont-eat-meat.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
David Catchpoole wrote at the website of [[Creation Ministries International]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|From 1946 to 1955, A female African lion, born and raised in America, lived her entire lifetime of nine years without ever eating meat.1 In fact, her owners, Georges and Margaret Westbeau,2 alarmed by scientists’ reports that carnivorous animals cannot live without meat, went to great lengths to try to coax their unusual pet (‘Little Tyke’) to develop a taste for it. They even advertised a cash reward for anyone who could devise a meat-containing formula that the lioness would like. The curator of a New York zoo advised the Westbeaus that putting a few drops of blood in Little Tyke’s milk bottle would help in weaning her, but the lioness cub refused to touch it—even when only a single drop of blood had been added.&lt;br /&gt;
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The more knowledgeable animal experts among the many visitors to the Westbeaus’ 100 acre (40 hectare) ranch also proffered advice, but nothing worked. Meanwhile, Little Tyke continued to do extremely well on a daily diet of cooked grain, raw eggs and milk. By four years of age she was fully grown and weighed 352 pounds (160 kg)...&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Westbeau’s observation of the lioness that ‘To condition her stomach she would spend an hour at a time eating the succulent tall grass in the fields’, is also a vivid reminder of the prophecies of Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25, ‘ … the lion will eat straw like the ox.’&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Linguistics==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The Tower of Babel by Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1563.jpg|thumb|350px|The Tower of Babel by [[Pieter Bruegel the Elder]], 1563.]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Common descent theory===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[theory of evolution]] suggests that all languages are descended from a common ancestral language, and for a century (1860 to about 1960) scientists clung to that view.  But now most linguists identify many different families of languages that have no common ancestor, just as described in Genesis 11 with the [[Tower of Babel]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earliest Hebrew writings===&lt;br /&gt;
Skeptics have claimed that [[Hebrew]] writing did not exist before the 6th century B.C.  But a recent Israeli archaeological dig dated four centuries earlier, in the 10th century B.C., included an artifact found at Khirbet Qeiyafa in the Elah Valley.  This artifact contained a written inscription in Hebrew relating to &amp;quot;slaves, widows and orphans.&amp;quot; Haifa University Professor Gershon Galil noted that this disproves the theory that the Bible could not have been written before the 6th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2010/01/08/Bible-may-be-centuries-older-than-thought/UPI-21171262997765/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Economics==&lt;br /&gt;
===Poverty===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus stated that there will always be poverty,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Mark 14:7, Matthew 26:11 and John 12.8.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yet [[liberals]] repeatedly insist that poverty can be eliminated with more government spending.  Every attempt to eliminate poverty has failed just as Jesus predicted. In 1991 [[Ronald Coase]] won a [[Nobel Prize]] in [[Economics]] for the [[Coase Theorem]], which implies that government attempts to reduced poverty will interfere with efficient operation of the economy, and thereby reduce wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Socialism and Capitalism===&lt;br /&gt;
Ecclesiastes 5:18-19 says that [[capitalism]] is a gift from God:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God give the him: for it is his portion. Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Similarly, Ecclesiastes 6:1-2 condemns [[socialism]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Government and Politics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also [[Biblical political foreknowledge]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nation-state===&lt;br /&gt;
Ancient Israel, as described in the [[Old Testament]], was a [[nation-state]] and that model was not utilized again until thousands of years later, well after the Renaissance in Western Europe.  This model of a nation-state has become the modern standard worldwide.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Separation of Powers===&lt;br /&gt;
The separation of powers adopted successfully by the [[U.S. Constitution]] in 1787, with the legislative, executive, and judicial branches having separate authority and jurisdiction, was first described in the Old Testament.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Jeremiah 17:19 and Isaiah 33:22.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Liberal influence on the media===&lt;br /&gt;
The Third [[Three Temptations of Christ|Temptation of Christ]] is to bow down and worship the [[Satan]] in exchange for becoming ruler of the world.  The media plays that role and its influence is predictably liberal and anti-[[Christian]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Engineering==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge about these engineering developments has been proposed:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2191&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|automobiles (Joel 2:3-4); airplanes (Isaiah 31:5, also 40:31); submarines (Revelation 9:1-11); radio (Ecclesiastes 10:20); and television (Revelation 11:3-12)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Classical photography, using negative imaging, was predated by the [[Shroud of Turin]] with respect to the imaging on the Shroud likely due to the light of the [[Resurrection]]. The Shroud ([[Greek]]: σινδών - sindón)  is mentioned in three Gospels: Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46, Luke 23:53, while John 20:5-7 talks about a face cloth or napkin ([[Greek]]: σουδάριον - soudárion - perhaps the [[Sudarium of Oviedo]]), and a piece of fine linen ([[Greek]]: ὀθόνιον - othonion). The description by the eyewitness John implies that his sighting of the Shroud may have confirmed his [[faith]], though he doesn't mention its photograph-like image.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Calvin, who opposed the Catholic Church, wrote a book in 1543 criticizing all material evidence of Jesus and the martyrs.  In it he claimed that because the negative image on the Shroud is not described in the Gospels, it must not be authentic. [[John Calvin]]: ''Traité des Reliques'', Geneve 1543, translated by Valerian Krasinski: ''A treatise on Relics'', Edingburgh 1854&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alleged &amp;quot;contradictions&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge is an underpinning of creation science, and is widely credited by Christian scientists and apologists, including the organizations [[Creation Ministries International]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creation.com/modern-medicine Creation Ministries International on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Answers in Genesis]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i1/medicine.asp Answers in Genesis on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[CreationWiki]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creationwiki.org/index.php/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge  Bible Scientific Foreknowledge]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists and liberals unsuccessfully attempt to discredit the Bible based on science.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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===Value of Pi===&lt;br /&gt;
Two sections of the Bible (1 Kings 7, 23-26, 2 Chronicles, 4, 2-5) appear to indicate that the correct value of [[Pi]] is 3, whereas Pi is, in fact, an irrational number, equalling approximately 3.14159. Atheists, including [[Sam Harris]] and [[Richard Dawkins]], allege that this value indicates the fallacious nature of scripture.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://richarddawkins.net/articles/139 The Richard Dawkins Foundation, ''Reply to a Christian'', Sam Harris -]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, a simple explanation of the claimed &amp;quot;contradiction&amp;quot; is that the Bible records the ratio of the actual object which Hiram created, not that of a mathematical [[sphere]]. The claim that it was round all about does not equate to a claim that it was a perfect sphere, as atheists have claimed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Theology'', Volume 59, Issues 427-438,  Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge (Great Britain), London, 1956, p. 23&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, Pi to one significant digit is 3. Just because the measurement is given to only one significant digit, that does not mean it was precisely that amount.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;There are no instances in the Bible where fractions are used.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of course, since Pi is an irrational number, it would be impossible to give a truly precise measurement. Since decimal notation was not in use in Biblical times, there was no way to express Pi to greater accuracy in the language of the day.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bat as a bird===&lt;br /&gt;
A favorite [[evolutionist]] canard is that [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:13-19]] labels the [[bat]], a [[mammal]], as a [[bird]]. The [[KJV]] translation of &amp;quot;fowl&amp;quot; is simply incorrect, as the Hebrew term '' 'owph'' did not entail the &amp;quot;clade&amp;quot; of birds, but was a non-scientific category simply referring to ''any'' winged creature. A popular Jewish translation, used to explain the laws of keeping kosher, translates the term as &amp;quot;winged flying things.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Rabbits, coneys, and cud===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:5-6]], the Bible states, {{cquote|And the coney ''(or hyrax)'', because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.}} While rabbits do not, in fact, regurgitate food and re-chew it, they have the same jaw motions as animals that do&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/do-badger-and-rabbit-chew-cud&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and thus appeared as cud-chewing to the Jews of Moses's time. Atheists and liberals love to misrepresent this passage only because they are in [[liberal denial]] of the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Number of legs of insects===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:20-23]], the Bible states, {{cquote|All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the &lt;br /&gt;
grasshopper after his kind.&lt;br /&gt;
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But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.}}While this may appear to indicate that insects have four legs (they have six), the passage is in fact referring to the manner in which the grasshopper moves. Grasshoppers have large back legs mainly used for jumping, and not for walking, which is when it uses its smaller four front legs. Thus, the ancient Hebrews were just describing things as they saw them, not according to scientific nomenclature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay:Rebuttal to Biblical scientific foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Biblical political foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christianity and Science]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Prodigal Son]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.creationwiki.org/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge Biblical scientific foreknowledge] by [[CreationWiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/10/scientific-consensus-and-evolutionary.html Jesus vs. the scientific consensus and evolution. Jesus wins!]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Ten of the Top Scientific Facts in the Bible&amp;quot;, Living Waters Films with Ray Comfort. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sMJMXDiH4]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Science]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Liberal Denial]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Whales''' are marine mammals of the order [[Cetacea]], and a clear [[counterexample to the Theory of Evolution]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Description ==&lt;br /&gt;
Whales are separated into the toothed whales, ''Odontocetes'' (which includes [[dolphin]]s, [[porpoise]]s, [[narwhal]]s, beaked whales and [[sperm whale]]s), and the whalebone, or baleen, whales, also called ''Mysticetes''. The latter are mostly very large, which, instead of teeth, have baleen (whalebone) to filter small prey from the water; they are what people generally think of when the word whale is used. The whalebone whales include the rorquals - the [[blue whale]], fin whale, sei whale, Bryde's whale, [[minke whale]], and humpback whale; the [[grey whale]]; and the various [[right whale]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although whales are famed for the massive size reached by some species, such as the blue whale (the largest animal to ever live), others are relatively small, like the pygmy right whale which grows to about 20 feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/PygmyRightWhale.htm] American Cetacean Society website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Though whales have many traits in common with fish (including fins and tails) they are [[classification system|classified]] as [[mammal]]s under the [[Linnaean taxonomy]] classification system because they breathe air and lactate. Whales have a number of remarkable features including:&lt;br /&gt;
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* they decide when to breathe, rather than breathing unconsciously&lt;br /&gt;
* they sleep 8 hours a day, yet need to be conscious to breathe&lt;br /&gt;
* they can communicate with each other by making remarkably loud noises&lt;br /&gt;
* these extraordinary noises can travel for miles underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* the females nurse their calves while swimming underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* the males have a unique cooling system for their internal reproductive organs, involving the circulation of cooled blood from the extremities directly around the [[testes]] before returning to the [[heart]]&lt;br /&gt;
* whales, along with humans and horses, are some of the few mammal species that do not possess [[baculum]] (penile bone)&lt;br /&gt;
* mysticetes have two blow-holes, while odontocetes only have one&lt;br /&gt;
* the blow-holes pass air above water, yet resist intense pressure underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* they have massive brains, much larger than the brains of other mammals&lt;br /&gt;
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== Taxonomy ==&lt;br /&gt;
Two distinct kinds of whales exist worldwide: toothed whales of the suborder Odontoceti, and whalebone, or baleen, whales of the suborder Mysticeti.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Baleen whales===&lt;br /&gt;
Mysticeti includes thirteen species in six genera, all chiefly characterized by the presence of plates of baleen hanging from their upper jaws inside their mouths.  These plates are used to filter small animals such as krill, or small shoaling fish (herring or mackerel).  To accommodate the baleen, as well as to catch enormous schools of krill and fish, these whales have huge mouths; the baleen in the bowhead (''Balaena mysticetus'') for example is up to ten feet in length.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Suborder Mysticeti: Baleen whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Balaenidae: Right whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Balaena''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Bowhead, or Greenland right whale, ''Balaena mysticetus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Eubalaena''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::North Atlantic right whale, ''Eubalaena glacialis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::North Pacific right whale, ''Eubalaena japonica''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Southern right whale, ''Eubalaena australis''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Balaenopteridae: Rorquals'''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Balaenopterinae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Balaenoptera''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Antarctic minke whale, ''Balaenoptera bonaerensis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Common minke whale, ''Balaenoptera acutorostrata''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Bryde's whale, ''Balaenoptera brydei''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Blue whale, ''Balaenoptera musculus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Fin whale, ''Balaenoptera physalus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sei whale, ''Balaenoptera borealis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Megapterinae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Megaptera''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Humpback whale, ''Megaptera novaeangliae''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Eschrichtiidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Eschrichtius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gray whale, ''Eschrichtius robustus''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Neobalaenidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Caperea''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy right whale, ''Caperea marginata''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Toothed whales===&lt;br /&gt;
Odontoceti comprises twenty-six species in ten genera, excluding the smaller dolphins and porpoises.  All possess conical teeth in one form or another, with some bearing rudimentary teeth only.  Only one species (sperm whale, ''Physeter macrocephalus'') reaches lengths of over sixty feet; several beaked whales are rarely over thirty feet, while the remaining species reach lengths less than that.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Suborder Odontoceti: Toothed whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Monodontidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Delphinapterus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Beluga, ''Delphinapterus leucas''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Monodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Narwhal, ''Monodon monoceros''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Physeteridae: Sperm whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Physeter''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sperm whale, ''Physeter macrocephalus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Kogia''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Dwarf sperm whale, ''Kogia sima''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy sperm whale, ''Kogia breviceps''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Ziphidae: Beaked whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Berardius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Arnoux's beaked whale, ''Berardius arnuxii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Baird's beaked whale, ''Berardius bairdii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Hyperoodontidae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Hyperoodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Northern bottlenose whale, ''Hyperoodon ampullatus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Southern bottlenose whale, ''Hyperoodon planifrons''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Indopacetus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Indo-Pacific beaked whale, ''Indopacetus pacificus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Mesoplodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Andrews' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon bowdoini''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Blainville's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon densirostris''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gervais' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon europaeus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ginkgo-toothed beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon ginkgodens''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gray's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon grayi''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Hector's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon hectori''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Hubbs' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon carlhubbsi''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Perrin's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon perrini''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon peruvianus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sowerby's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon bidens''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Spade-toothed whale, ''Mesoplodon traversii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Stejneger's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon stejnegeri''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Strap-toothed whale, ''Mesoplodon layardii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::True's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon mirus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Tasmacetus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Shepherd's beaked whale, ''Tasmacetus shepherdi''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Ziphius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Cuvier's beaked whale, ''Ziphius cavirostris''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family ''Delphinidae'''''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family ''Phocoenidae'''''&lt;br /&gt;
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==Evolutionary claims==&lt;br /&gt;
The question of how whales and their relatives could have evolved from terrestrial [[mammal]]s has intrigued evolutionary biologists since [[Charles Darwin]]'s suggestion that they may have evolved from ancient mammals. He suggested that their development may have been started by something similar to a behavior observed in bears. &amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;In North America the black bear was seen . . . swimming for hours with widely open mouth, thus catching, like a whale, insects in the water. Even in so extreme a case as this, if the supply of insects were constant, and if better adapted competitors did not already exist in the country, I can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural selection, more and more aquatic in their structure and habits, with larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a whale.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Charles Darwin, [http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1228 Origin of species] 1st edition&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Evolutionary biologists estimate the last ancestor of whales and hippos lived about 25 million years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/lines/IAtransitional.shtml] UCLA Berkley Understanding Evolution for Teachers website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;, with a more recent suggestion that modern whales and their relatives arose from ancient [[Artiodactyla|artiodactyls]] (even-toed ungulates such as [[deer]] and [[hippopotamus|hippopotami]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/41080/molecular_clock_divergence_estimates_and_the_fossil_record_of_cetartiodactyla/index.html] Theodore, JM (2004) Molecular Clock Divergence Estimates And The Fossil Record Of Cetartiodactyla '' The Journal Of Paleontology'' '''78''':39-44&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
More specifically, they believe that whales evolved from Pakicetus through Aetiocetus, because of the similarities in their bone structure. For example, ''Pakicetus'' has nostrils at the front of its skull, ''Aetiocetus'' has nostrils in the middle of its skull, and the modern gray whale has nostrils at the top of its skull&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/lines_03]University of California, Berkeley, ''Understanding Evolution''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This kinship has been termed the whippo hypothesis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/pdfs/data/1999/15619/15619-10.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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This theory of cetacean origins contrasts with the [[Young earth creationism|young earth creationist]] position that whales were [[creation|created]] about 6000 years ago, ''before'' land animals&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sarfati, Jonathan [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3834/106/ Whale evolution?] ''Refuting Evolution'', Chapter 5.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Batten, Don, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1776 A whale of a tale?] ''Journal of Creation'' 8(1):2–3, April 1994.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Williams, Alexander, and Sarfati, Jonathan, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1862 Not at all like a whale], ''Creation'' 27(2):20–22, March 2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  The various theories regarding evolutionary origins, such as Darwin's &amp;quot;thought experiment&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/how-did-whales-evolve-73276956/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; about a bear-like ancestry, the modern theory of ''Pakicetus'' to ''Aetiocetus'' to gray whale descent require compelling evidence based on [[paleontology]] to be accepted.  To further compound the difficulties in the theory of evolution, it was recently discovered that rorqual whales possess a sensory organ at the front of their lower jaws, informing the brain of stresses and pressure of water when the mouth is open to collect food.  This organ, according to the demands of evolution, would have to appear at the same time as the following:&lt;br /&gt;
*an increase in size of the upper and lower jaws; &lt;br /&gt;
*a change in the lower jaw structure and the addition of chin grooves to allow the intake of large amounts of water; &lt;br /&gt;
*the addition of vibrissae (touch-sensitive organs) to detect krill;&lt;br /&gt;
*the addition of counter-current heat exchange organs within the tongue, preventing heat loss when feeding in arctic waters&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.icr.org/article/ways-that-whales-display-their-creator&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.&lt;br /&gt;
Whales in their current form also appear suddenly in the fossil record, something that cannot be explained by current evolutionary science&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://creation.com/refuting-evolution-chapter-5-whale-evolution&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  With that sudden appearance is also the trait that cannot be explained by anything other than a deliberate act of creation: baleen filter plates.  Gray whales, right whales, and rorquals carry these filters; to do so requires an intentional act, in this case a change in diet to smaller prey and the realization that it needs a filtering system to catch that prey&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creationstudies.org/articles/science/life-science/206-whales-lose-teeth&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;.  As it remains, the descent of whales from terrestrial ancestors according to evolution cannot be proved.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Whaling industry==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Bradford Icebound Whaling Ship.jpg|thumb|Bradford, Icebound Whaling Ship.]]&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Whaling]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Whales in literature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Bible ===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Bible quote|Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.''|book=Jonah|chap=1|verses=17|version=KJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The great fish that swallowed [[Jonah (prophet)|Jonah]] is often thought of as being a whale, although the translation of 'great fish' is not a precise designation of species but may indicate any physically large, ocean-going creature. The physical difficulty of having a human be swallowed by a whale and survive the intense pressure of diving, lack of air and acidic environment of the stomach, and the fact that the Bible says that God &amp;quot;prepared&amp;quot; the fish has led some to suggest the creature may be uniquely and specially prepared by [[God]] for the purpose. Alternatively, Jonah may have been simply protected by supernatural means.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whales are mentioned in three other places in the King James Version of the Bible:&lt;br /&gt;
* Genesis 1:21: &amp;quot;And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Job 7:12: &amp;quot;Am I a sea, or a whale, that thou settest a watch over me?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Ezekiel 32:2: &amp;quot;Son of man, take up a lamentation for Pharaoh king of Egypt, and say unto him, Thou art like a young lion of the nations, and thou art as a whale in the seas: and thou camest forth with thy rivers, and troubledst the waters with thy feet, and fouledst their rivers.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Fiction ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Arguably the most famous book about whales is [[Herman Melville]]'s ''[[Moby-Dick|Moby Dick]]'', about a whaling-ship captain obsessed with hunting down the sperm whale (Moby Dick) which had bitten off one of his legs.&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Orca]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dolphin]]&lt;br /&gt;
==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
* Carwardine, Mark. ''Whales &amp;amp; Dolphins'' (Smithsonian Handbooks) (2002) [http://www.amazon.com/Whales-Dolphins-Smithsonian-Handbooks-Carwardine/dp/0789489902/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1226789849&amp;amp;sr=1-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Creighton, Margaret S.  ''Rites and Passages: The Experience of American Whaling, 1830-1870.'' (1995). 233 pp.  [http://www.amazon.com/Rites-Passages-Experience-American-1830-1870/dp/0521484480/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1207603299&amp;amp;sr=8-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Dolin, Eric Jay. ''Leviathan: The History of Whaling in America'' (2007) 480 pp. [http://www.amazon.com/Leviathan-History-Eric-Jay-Dolin/dp/0393060578/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1207596886&amp;amp;sr=8-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Ellis, Richard.  ''Men and Whales.'' (1991). 542 pp.  &lt;br /&gt;
* Papastavrou, Vassili. ''Whale'' (DK Eyewitness Books) (2004) [http://www.amazon.com/Whale-Eyewitness-Books-Vassili-Papastavrou/dp/0756607396/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1226789849&amp;amp;sr=1-3 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Stoett, Peter J. ''The International Politics of Whaling'' (1997) [http://www.questia.com/read/57120862?title=The%20International%20Politics%20of%20Whaling online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
*Berta, Annalisa ''Return to the Sea: The Life and Evolutionary Times of Marine Mammals'' 2012 &lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Newton.png|thumb|200px|alt=Isaac Newton, cornerstone of the scientific revolution, based his research on the scientific authority of the [[Bible]].|thumb|[[Portrait]] of [[Isaac Newton]], cornerstone of the [[scientific revolution]], based his research on the scientific authority of the Bible.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' is how the [[Bible]] shows a comprehension of [[science]] far ahead of its time. The Bible is a superb roadmap to future scientific discoveries. Unfortunately [[Bible denier]]s, including many [[Atheism|atheist]]s and [[evolution]]ists, refuse to read the Bible, and '''''their irrational [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|closed-mindedness]] against the Bible obstructs the advancement of science'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Book of Genesis]] gives [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge#Anesthesia|an example of anesthesia]] long before man discovered it in 1846.  And the underlying chaos and [[uncertainty]] in the physical world was explained in the Bible long before [[quantum mechanics]] confirmed it in the 1900s.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' has an additional benefit: it guides a more precise translation of verses that describe scientific-related events, such as the reference to the universe in [[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10]], and the changing of [[Essay:Water into Wine|water into wine]] at the wedding feast.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Geology==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Massive flooding===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheist scientists long opposed a [[young earth]] [[creation|created]] by [[God]] where cataclysmic flooding, such as the [[Great Flood]] described in the Bible, shaped the landscape. However, ample [[counterexamples to an old earth]] exist and the discovery in the Northwest of &amp;quot;giant ripple marks, 50 feet high and 200-500 feet apart&amp;quot; proved that a cataclysmic flood in the region had indeed occurred thousands of years ago. As a result, &amp;quot;[a]mong geologists, the concept of a catastrophic flood came to be universally accepted by the late 1950s.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iafi.org/floods.html The Ice Age Flood Institute reports on the massive floods in the Northwest.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continental drift===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Continental drift]] was  proposed by [[creationist]] Antonio Snider-Pellegrini in 1859 based on [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis 1:9-10]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c001.html Christian Answers explains Antonio Snider's divine inspiration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which states, {{cquote|And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.&lt;br /&gt;
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.}} Because land is no longer all in [[Pangaea|one place]], this implies that the continents have shifted over the six millennia to their current positions. [[Atheists]] and [[scientist]]s who hadn't seen the light of [[creationism]] were in [[liberal denial]] about this concept for a century, until finally accepting its truth. This is just more data that the Bible knew millennia before [[secular]] [[science]] caught up.&lt;br /&gt;
However, The Continents are still connected; under the ocean is land if you dry up the water. This interpretation of this verse is in error, the separation spoken of here is the waters under the sky (Firmament) and the water out in space (beyond the heavens). Comets prove this theory, as many of them contain ice, and today as much as 1% of terrestrial rain comes from extraterrestrial sources.{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}&lt;br /&gt;
The most likely reason for the current position and shape of the land mass is the Flood of Noah. Pangea does not work without flipping, shrinking, and sometimes removing countries entirely. Any Biblical statements of continents is in Genesis 10:25 when Peleg is mentioned &amp;quot;for in his days was the earth divided&amp;quot; this in particular refers to the separation of what today is Russia, Japan, and Alaska, when the oceans arose, and also to the division of the peoples by languages, who migrated together according to their language after the confusing of tongues at the tower of Babel, obviously the migration took place before the oceanic divide which led to the natives of the Far West. Everyone laughed at Columbus, not because they thought earth was flat, but because they had forgotten the Far West (America) was there, and they thought he didn't have nearly enough supplies or a big enough ship to go to Asia the long way around, and they would have been right if he didn't hit the Caribbean first by complete accident. Recent findings of biblical stone tablets, in Byzantine script prove that trade between Europe and the Far West was common prior to the dark age which began in 400 or 500 AD.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Underwater springs===&lt;br /&gt;
Only in modern times have scientists become aware of the enormous underwater springs feeding into the oceans, and the very deep valleys at the bottom of the oceans. However, the Bible repeatedly described this thousands of years earlier in [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 7|Genesis 7:11]], which states, {{cquote|In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.}} Again, in 2 Samuel 22:16, the Bible states that, {{cquote|And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.}}&lt;br /&gt;
And Job 38:16 “Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? Or hast thou walked in the search of the depths?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is ''obvious'' proof to all but [[liberals]] that the Bible had foreknowledge of subcrustal oceans, something the ancient Jews could not have possibly known, and thus proof of the Bible's God-given accuracy and divine nature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Agriculture==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Malthusianism===&lt;br /&gt;
Since Thomas [[Robert Malthus|Malthus's]] 1798 work, ''An Essay on the Principle of Population'', [[liberal]] [[intellectual]]s insisted that the world's population would grow faster than the [[food]] supply and result in mass starvation. However, there are examples in both the [[Old Testament|Old]]{{citation needed|date=September 2015}} and [[New Testament]]s{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}, as well as the example of [[William Bradford]] at Plymouth Colony,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book|last1=Bradford|first1=William|title=The History of Plimoth Plantation|date=1669|pages=135–136}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of the food supply increasing to be more far plentiful than expected, mostly due to faith in [[God|God's]] powers and use of [[conservative]] [[economics]]. Indeed, in modern times [[obesity]] is far more prevalent and harmful than [[hunger]] worldwide, and food production far exceeds the ability to consume even in impoverished nations. Hunger remains a problem only in places with [[liberal]] and/or [[leftist]] political systems that impede food distribution or destroy the [[free market]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Psychogenic hematidrosis ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Psychogenic hematidrosis, which is sweat turning into blood, happens rarely but in the cases it does happen, it usually happens with death row inmates.  In 70 percent of all studies that document this condition, the condition occurs in death row inmates.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjXMsq6SscA Police Detective Examines the Resurrection of Jesus becomes Christian]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus sweat blood (Luke 22:44). The early church was puzzled by the account of Jesus sweating blood given in Scripture and they didn't know what to make of it.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Pleural effusion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The early church was puzzled by the blood and water that came out of Jesus' side when the soldier plunged his spear into him. The blood was not a problem in their understanding, but the water was. Medical science can now explain the water coming out of Jesus' side as being the result of pleural effusion.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Flood ice mummy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The building of the ark.jpg|thumb|The building of the Ark by Bertram of Minden, ancient [[German Painting]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
According to the Bible, a [[Great Flood]] occurred around 3300 B.C., or about 5300 years ago. It involved a cataclysmic rainstorm of a magnitude never seen before or since. For centuries [[atheist]]s and [[liberals]] have mocked it, claiming that it was impossible. However, in 1991, an &amp;quot;ice mummy&amp;quot; was discovered in the [[Alps]]. Scientists located a remarkably preserved ancient body, including even the contents of his last meal, which was due to an extraordinary ice storm. By radiometric [[carbon dating]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nupecc.org/iai2001/report/B44.pdf Radiocarbon dating of the Iceman Ötzi with&lt;br /&gt;
accelerator mass spectrometry&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the scientists discovered that this massive ice storm occurred 5300 years ago, which perfectly matches the Biblical Great Flood.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/icemummies/iceman.html PBS on the &amp;quot;Iceman&amp;quot; in the Alps&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is obvious proof of the Great Flood, as no natural occurrence could possibly explain how somebody came to be preserved by ice in the [[Alps]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest Living Organism===&lt;br /&gt;
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Bristlecone pine trees in California's White Mountains are the oldest living unitary organism.  As predicted by the Bible, they are not as old as 6,000 years but are as old as 5,000 years,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/worlds-oldest-living-things-23385913/image-23386256&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; roughly the time of the [[Great Flood]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===False theories===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus' recognition that the truth would remain hidden from arrogant &amp;quot;intellectuals&amp;quot; while simultaneously revealed to humbler, [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|more openminded]] people. This foreshadowed the creation of theories to pull self-centered intellectual wannabees away from [[God]], such as the [[Theory of Evolution]], the [[Theory of Relativity]], the [[homosexual agenda]], the [[secular]] culture of [[abortion]], [[Communism]], and countless other [[liberal]] and atheistic ideas and ideologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Mankind remains extant===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible predicts that the end of [[mankind]] will not occur by chance, but rather at a time known only to God. Despite the extinction of many species each year throughout history, the expectation by scientists that Earth would have been hit by chance by a massive, extinction-causing meteor, and laws of probability that predict other immense catastrophes, mankind continues and Christianity grows just as Jesus predicted.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Construction of ancient sky-high structures===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible—the [[Book of Genesis]] chapter 11—explains how ancient people arrogantly sought to construct a sky-high &amp;quot;[[Tower of Babel]]&amp;quot; to try to reach [[Heaven]].  Then, in the 1900s, archaeologists discovered the great ziggurat of ancient Ur, located in present-day southern Iraq, having characteristics similar to the biblical description of the Tower of Babel.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bible-history.com/babylonia/BabyloniaThe_Ziggurat.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hometown of Goliath===&lt;br /&gt;
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1 Samuel 17 of the Bible discusses the giant Goliath from a Philistine city named Gath, located in central Israel. In July 2015, archaeologists discovered its entrance in an excavation that began in 1899.  They also uncovered evidence of a massive earthquake that occurred in the eighth century BC, as described in the biblical book of Amos.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiantoday.com/article/gates.to.goliaths.city.discovered/61124.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Effect of Deafness on Speech===&lt;br /&gt;
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For 2000 years after [[Christ]], scientists overlooked the close connection between hearing and speech, and the brain, and are just starting to discover this now.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zdnet.com/article/deafness-can-have-unexpected-consequences-on-speech-patterns/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  But [[Jesus]] illustrated the connection when he cured a problem with speech primarily by opening someone's ears, after which the man &amp;quot;spoke plainly.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mark 7:34-35 ([[ESV]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Common DNA===&lt;br /&gt;
[[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 1|John 1:3]] explains that &amp;quot;All things were made by Him; not one thing was made without Him.&amp;quot;  If something had been made without Him then creatures would exist that had completely different DNA from other creatures.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Psychiatry===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jesus Christ]] and [[Christianity|Christendom]] have emphasized the important of forgiveness and in the last few decades mental health specialists have increasingly seen the importance of forgiveness to alleviate anger/depression/bitterness and other emotional problems within individuals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2755173/ Indian J Psychiatry. 2009 Apr-Jun; 51(2): 153–156. doi:  10.4103/0019-5545.49459, PMCID: PMC2755173, ''Forgiveness: A note for psychiatrists'' by Prakash Gangdev]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Modern medicine now realizes that obsessing with one's past is a big cause of psychiatric problems.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-flux/201104/5-ways-find-closure-the-past&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Jesus had the same insight 2000 years earlier: &amp;quot;No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the [[kingdom of God]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luke 9:62 ([[ESV]]).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Atheism and anger]] and [[Atheism and bitterness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Bible and health practices ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[The Bible and health]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Max Neuberger, writing in his &amp;quot;History of Medicine&amp;quot; states concerning the Mosaic laws: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The commands concern prophylaxis and suppression of epidemics, suppression of venereal disease and prostitution, care of the skin, baths,[17] food, housing and clothing, regulation of labour, sexual life, discipline of the people, etc. Many of these commands, such as Sabbath rest, circumcision, laws concerning food (interdiction of blood and pork), measures concerning menstruating and lying-in women, and those suffering from gonorrhoea, isolation of lepers, and hygiene of the camp, are, in view of the conditions of the climate, surprisingly rational.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Blood clotting on the eighth day===&lt;br /&gt;
In Genesis 17:12, God mandated that Abraham circumcise his sons on the 8th day after birth.  In 1935, it was discovered that Vitamin K, together with prothrombin, causes blood coagulation, (important in any surgical procedure).  On the 8th day, the amount of prothrombin present is elevated above 100% of normal and is therefore the only day in the male’s life in which this will be the case (normally). If surgery is to be performed, day 8 is the perfect day to do it as vitamin K and prothrombin levels are at their peak.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Lifespan===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible puts the maximum lifespan for man at 120 years (Genesis 6:3), the typical lifespan at 70 years and the typical for a good-living person at 80 years (Psalm 90:10).&lt;br /&gt;
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Thousands of years after that was written, despite immense advances in medicine and technology, these figures remain remarkably accurate.  The longest modern recorded life of a man is precisely 120 years (Shigechiyo Izumi), the average lifespan for a man is roughly 70 years, and the average for a good-living man is about 80 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jeanne Calment]] lived to age 122, only two years past 120. She was said to have never worked and used olive oil on her skin, outliving all of her [[feminist]] counterparts.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest human ancestor===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible suggests that the oldest maternal ancestor &amp;amp;#8212; [[Eve]] &amp;amp;#8212; first lived slightly more than 6000 years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The mutation rate of [[mitochondria]] indicates roughly the same date for the most recent common human ancestor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creationwiki.org/Mitochondrial_Eve_lived_only_6500_years_ago_%28Talk.Origins%29&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Anesthesia===&lt;br /&gt;
The first surgical operation described in the Bible was the removal of a rib from [[Adam]], which was performed by first putting Adam into an unconscious,  &amp;quot;deep sleep-like trance.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 2:21]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This was the equivalent of anesthesia &amp;amp;#8212; thousands of years before anesthesia using inhaled ether was developed by William Morton in 1846.  Had scientists and physicians been more [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|openminded]] about Genesis 2:21 (perhaps they had considered it a miracle, and thus impossible for humans to achieve), they may have discovered anesthesia far sooner, and saved many more lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bloodletting hastens death===&lt;br /&gt;
At the time of Jesus and for centuries afterward, arteries and veins were thought to be filled with air, and blood was viewed as something to be used up rather than recirculate.  Bloodletting—the practice of intentionally draining blood from a patient—was common medical practice through the time of [[George Washington]], hastening his death prematurely for reasons not understood until years later.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/37212.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Most victims of crucifixion in Roman times languished on the cross for days. But the Bible describes how Pilate, who crucified many, was surprised at how quickly Jesus passed away. 2000 years later, scientific knowledge has advanced to understand that this was caused by his prior loss of blood during his scourging (being brutally whipped), a punishment typically given ''instead of'' crucifixion.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Homosexuality and disease===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible's prohibition against [[homosexuality]] predated knowledge about the [[Homosexuality and Health|many diseases and disorders associated with homosexuality]], and thus showed scientific wisdom prescient for its time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eyesight===&lt;br /&gt;
The description in the [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Gospel of Mark 8:24]] for the sensation when one's eyesight is restored includes his perception of &amp;quot;trees walking.&amp;quot; This perception was first confirmed nearly 2000 years later as physicians developed medical techniques for restoring eyesight.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This newspaper account is not specific but describes the overall sensation of restored sight: [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-138886/Robot-eye-restore-lost-sight-20-years.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Maximum human height===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheists thought the size of [[Goliath]] in the Bible to be absurdly large (over nine feet tall), until [[Robert Wadlow]] grew to nearly 9 feet tall and was still growing when he died at a young age in 1940.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Leprosy===&lt;br /&gt;
Although leprosy is not as contagious as other infectious diseases, and some forms of it (such as tuberculoid or paucibacillary form are not contagious), Leviticus 13 and 14 set forth rules to prevent epidemics of this disease among the people of Israel.  Western science did not catch up until, in 1663, such laws were introduced in America in an attempt to curb an outbreak of smallpox.&lt;br /&gt;
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Centuries ahead of medical science, Jesus subsequently explained that leprosy was not as contagious as people thought.{needs citation}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hygiene===&lt;br /&gt;
Millennia before germ theory was proposed in the late 19th century, Leviticus 15 mandated hygiene laws that included bathing, washing of clothing, destruction of contaminated pottery and washing of hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 15:2, Jesus then curbed compulsive hand-washing by explaining why it was no longer typically necessary (in a non-farming, non-medical context) with respect to man's digestive system.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Digestive system===&lt;br /&gt;
It was common thought throughout history that infections and illness resulted from the digestive system, based on unclean hands or food.  Jesus rejected that view, and declared hand-washing before meals to be typically unnecessary.  It took many centuries before science caught up to the Bible on this.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is part of the Jewish kosher law to not eat milk with meat. In some Jewish homes they have separate refrigerators for meat and milk products. It comes from Deuteronomy 14:21 &amp;quot;...Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.&amp;quot; There is evidence that the body has difficulty digesting both meat and milk at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, as part of the Jewish kosher law a pork is on the list of prohibited foods. Under cooked pork can transmit Trichinosis, a parasitic disease that can infect muscle tissue, the brain, and the central nervous system, among other [[parasite]]s and zoonotic diseases.  [[Creation denial|Creation deniers]] can counter this point only with such desperate non-arguments as asking why God had to create trichinae at all and then allow them onto the [[Ark]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fetal Alcohol Syndrome====&lt;br /&gt;
Not discovered until 1973 by American physicians, fetal alcohol syndrome results from harm done to the unborn child in pregnancy due to the mother drinking alcohol.  The Bible, thousands of years earlier, forbade the mother of [[Samson]] from drinking alcohol while pregnant, so that he could become a powerful leader:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;3&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;The angel of the Lord appeared to her and said, “You are barren and childless, but you are going to become pregnant and give birth to a son. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;'''''Now see to it that you drink no wine or other fermented drink''''' and that you do not eat anything unclean. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, dedicated to God from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Judges 13:3-5 (NIV).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Animal Toxicity====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:David Macht.jpg|thumbnail|right||200px|Dr. David Macht]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 1953 Dr. [http://www.creationwiki.org/David_Macht David Macht], a Johns Hopkins researcher, conducted toxicity tests on many different kinds of animals and fish and concluded that the toxicity of Levitically [[Mosaic law and unclean animals|&amp;quot;unclean&amp;quot; animals]] was higher than that of the [[Mosaic law and clean animals|&amp;quot;clean&amp;quot; animals]], and that the correlation with the description in Leviticus was 100%.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht1&amp;gt;Macht, David I., MD. &amp;quot;[http://members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/Macht1953.pdf An Experimental Pharmacological Appreciation of Levitcus XI and Deuteronomy XIV].&amp;quot; ''Bulletin of the History of Medicine'' 27(5):444-450, September–October, 1953. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Macht's study in terms of classifying kosher and non-kosher animals matched the kosher classification performed by James W. Atz, Ph.D., Curator and Dean Bibliographer in the Department of Ichthyology of the American Museum of Natural History, NY, NY and Adjunct Professor of Biology, Graduate School of Arts and Science on New York University. Dr. Atz's list of kosher and non-kosher animals was published by the Orthodox Union in Kosher Guide and in the Orthodox Union Kosher Consumer Directory.&amp;lt;ref name=Atz&amp;gt;Atz, James W., contrib. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fish/ KASHRUT.COM - Kosher and Non-kosher fish]&amp;quot; Scharf Associates, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to a list of kosher and non-kosher fish published by the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, deciding what fish have scales, in the Orthodox Jewish community, appears to involve semantics as scales which are not visible to the human eye or scales that cannot be removed without tearing the skin are not considered &amp;quot;scales&amp;quot; in terms of the Torah law for determining which fish are kosher. It appears that Jewish religious authorities do appeal to well known Torah commentators.&amp;lt;ref name=Goldberg&amp;gt;Goldberg, Chaim. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fishfaq/ Consumers’ FAQ’s on Kosher fish].&amp;quot; Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, 2004. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Also, Dr. Macht's classification of swans as kosher is in accordance with the research done at Ohr Somayach Institutions in Jerusalem, Israel.&amp;lt;ref name=ask1&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://ohr.edu/ask/ask210.htm Ask the Rabbi - Are swans kosher]?&amp;quot; Ohr Somayach Website, Ohr.edu, October 24, 1998. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, Dr. Macht states in the peer reviewed journal ''Science'' that the toxicology test he used was a reliable method for detecting zoological toxins as it was a toxicology test sensitive to these type of toxins, and therefore one could conclude it was also suitable for testing the toxicity levels of fish, meat, and poultry.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht3&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. , Science 1930, 71 :302&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (The toxicological method that Dr. Macht used was also cited in the Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht2&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. and Macht, M.B. ''Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine'' 1941, 26: 597&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) In addition, Dr. Macht was an expert in cobra venom, which is a zoological toxin. Macht's conclusions, however, were challenged by three of his science community peers in a Seventh Day Adventist publication although one partially affirmed his study.&amp;lt;ref name=Harris&amp;gt;Harris, Lester E., Jr. &amp;quot;[https://archive.is/20070709234205/members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/web/ministry-1954-March-p37.htm This Question of Unclean Meats].&amp;quot; Ministry Magazine, March 1953, p37-38. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This was partly due to a likely unfamiliarity with what food is kosher and non-kosher. Also, perhaps they were unfamiliar with the toxicity test Dr. Macht used, and its apparent effectiveness in testing zoological toxins.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the short term, eating non-kosher food often appears to have no dramatic ill effects in general. For example, the Arabs, who do not eat kosher, consider camel to be a delicacy. Clearly, non-kosher Arabs do not fall dead right after eating camel meat. However, the long term optimality of eating clean versus unclean meat is an unanswered question of science. Also, eating non-kosher foods clearly has some nutritional benefit. For example, shrimp and pork contain protein. The New Testament declares, {{Bible quote|For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5|version=NKJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In regard to the aforementioned verse, it could be argued that prayer does sanctify food. The Bible has plenty of verses regarding God's protection. Also, it could be argued that the benefits outweigh the costs in all foods and thus all food is good. Clearly there is  some nutritional goodness in foods that the Torah declared unclean (for example, shrimp has protein).  What foods are optimal from an empirically tested science viewpoint is often controversial. In short, in regard to eating strictly a kosher diet versus a non-kosher diet, science has no definitive answers at the present time. From a Christian theological point of view, it could be argued that food should not be an impediment to anyone making a decision to become a Christian. It should be noted that orthodox Christian believers in Biblical scientific foreknowledge believe that Christians can eat the food that was declared unclean in the Old Testament, and {{Bible ref|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5}} and {{Bible ref|book=Galations|chap=2|verses=7-16}} make this very clear.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to the aforementioned study testing kosher and non-kosher foods for toxicity levels, Macht developed evidence indicating that combining meat and milk tended to be more toxic than either foodstuff alone.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4&amp;gt;David I. Macht, Medical Leaves 1940; 3:174-184&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In addition, he compared conventional animal slaughtering versus kosher slaughtering and determined that kosher slaughtering produced less toxic meat.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 1985 study by Nanji and French found that there was a significant correlation between cirrhosis and pork consumption (Macht claimed that swine was more toxic than the animal meat the Bible called clean).&amp;lt;ref name=Nanji&amp;gt;Nanji AA, and French SW. &amp;quot;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&amp;amp;db=PubMed&amp;amp;list_uids=2858627&amp;amp;dopt=Abstract Relationship between pork consumption and cirrhosis].&amp;quot; ''Lancet'' 1985 Mar 23, 1(8430):681-3. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Modern pork production methods are different from ancient methods of raising pigs, so the result of this study might be hard to apply to the ancients or those who raise pigs by organic farming methods, without the use of hormones or antibiotics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jane Cahill reported in ''Biblical Archaeological Review'' that the toilets of a Jewish household in [[Jerusalem]] were examined and no [[parasite]]s or infectious agents were found.&amp;lt;ref name=Cahill&amp;gt;[http://cojs.org/cojswiki/It_Had_to_Happen,_Jane_M._Cahill,_Karl_Reinhard,_David_Tarler_and_Peter_Warnock,_BAR_17:03,_May/Jun_1991. It had to happen, Scientist Examines Ancient Bathrooms of Romans 586 B.C.] by Jane Cahill and Peter Warnock. BAR May/June 1991&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Today, some &amp;quot;alternative medicine&amp;quot; practitioners do not recommend pork to their patients. Their reasons include the possible content of hormones, antibiotics, and pesticides, and also the undiscriminating diet of the pig. Joseph Mercola, DO, who has a private practice in alternative general medicine, writes:{{cquote|Pigs are scavenger animals and will eat just about anything. Their appetite for less-than-wholesome foods makes pigs a breeding ground for potentially dangerous infections. Even cooking pork for long periods is not enough to kill many of the retroviruses and other parasites that many of them harbor.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola&amp;gt;Mercola, Joseph, DO, ed. &amp;quot;[http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/07/12/are-there-deadly-superbugs-in-your-pork.aspx?source=nl Are There Deadly Superbugs In Your Pork]?&amp;quot; &amp;lt;http://www.mercola.com/&amp;gt;, July 12, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Mercola does not even recommend pasture-raised pork, because wild boars will often infect herds of pork with [[Trichinella spiralis]] or other parasites.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Feasibility of abiogenesis===&lt;br /&gt;
Although scientists dismissed ideas involving [[abiogenesis]], or the process from which life emerges from non-living material, as nothing more than archaic beliefs in [[spontaneous generation]], the Bible very clearly depicts an occurrence of this phenomenon, for beginning in Genesis 1:20, God creates life from nothing. It was not until the early 20th century that science finally began to accept the viability of abiogenesis, a view that the Bible had held for almost 2000 years, except that [[atheists]] falsely claim that abiogenesis is somehow possible without a creator. For addition information, please see [http://creation.com/origin-of-life origin of life]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Awareness while unborn===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Abortion]] advocates argue that it is ok to terminate a baby while dismissing the pain inflicted by ending an innocent life. They argue that a fetus cannot feel pain because senses are incomplete. There is a heart-beating human in the womb that can feel even though still unborn and developing. In modern times, we now know the baby in the womb is alert, aware of their mother's emotions, recognizes voices, responds to stimuli and music. The Bible tells us the baby feels (1 Luke 44), ''&amp;quot;the babe leaps for joy in Elizabeth’s womb at the sound of Mary’s voice.&amp;quot;'' The inwomb developing baby, John the Baptist, notices the presence of the unborn [[Lord]] in [[Mary]], and is excited. In addition (St. Paul to the Galatians 1:15), ''&amp;quot;God… from my mother’s womb had set me apart and called me through his grace.&amp;quot;'' Paul's very first thought, feeling awareness, began while unborn.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Embalming===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mark 9-16 (Translated)#Chapter 14|Mark 14:3-8]] describes an embalming process to preserve a body after death, which was not discovered in the West until 1867.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Significance of blood===&lt;br /&gt;
The Old Testament teaches that the [[life]] of all flesh is its [[blood]] ({{Bible ref|book=Leviticus|chap=17|verses=13-14|version=KJV}}).  Secular science remained ignorant of the properties and circulation of blood until the 17th century A.D.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12_notes.htm Net Bible: Notes] to [http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12.htm#1234 Deuteronomy 12:23] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Menstruation===&lt;br /&gt;
The Biblical laws concerning [[menstruation]], including the setting apart of the menstruating woman and the prohibition on intimacy during menstruation, address health concerns that were not known to secular science until the 20th century.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Also, modern science has only very recently discovered that following such rules dramatically reduces the rate of illegitimacy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120604182027.htm How Religion Promotes Confidence About Paternity]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cloning and a Common X Chromosome===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bible ref|book=Genesis|chap=2|verses=21-22|version=KJV}} records that God made a [[woman]] out of one of [[Adam]]'s [[rib]]s.  Secular scientists did not believe that [[cloning]] such a complex organism (apart from plants) was possible until 1997.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml Cloning Fact Sheet] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It should be noted, however, that some do not consider this strictly 'cloning' as a clone would be identical to its original, most obviously in terms of its sex. Women can be cloned from the genetic material of men, but not the other way around, since women lack a Y chromosome. Women have the same X chromosome as men, but this was not discovered until the late 1800s. The Book of Genesis explained this thousands years earlier, describing how the first woman was created directly from man. If Eve was 'cloned' by replicating Adam's genetic material, she would more or less be his identical twin sister.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inbreeding===&lt;br /&gt;
Leviticus 18:7-11 elaborates in detail the relationships it regards as incestuous unions, to forbid inbreeding. Only in modern times has secular science caught up and been able to scientifically explain the harm to future generations of inbreeding.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Distance of Oldest Star to Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Genesis implies that the distance of the oldest star to Earth is how far light would travel during the age of mankind: about 6000 light-years.  In 2014, a team of researchers discovered that the oldest star is indeed only 6000 light-years away.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/6012/the-oldest-star-in-the-known-universe&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Planet formation===&lt;br /&gt;
Theories of an old universe insisted that planet formation did not occur until long after the origin of the universe, contrary to the [[Book of Genesis]].  It was not until 2012 that atheistic scientists recognized and reported that planets formed at the &amp;quot;dawn of the universe,&amp;quot; within a small fraction of the universe's age according to evolutionists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0330/Planets-found-at-dawn-of-universe-but-their-existence-is-a-mystery&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Extraterrestrial life===&lt;br /&gt;
For most of the 20th century, scientists typically believed in the existence of extraterrestrial life, despite the lack of any reference to it in the Bible. After spending many billions of dollars looking for such life, and investigating countless reports of UFOs, no such life has been found.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Starlight Problem===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Starlight Problem]] confounds atheistic theories about the universe:  light has reached us from stars that are too far away to transmit the light within the age of the universe.  But the Book of Genesis explains this easily:  &amp;quot;let there be light&amp;quot; means that God created light, not merely stars. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly refers to the number of stars as being innumerable,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''See'' Genesis 15:5, Jeremiah 33:22 and Hebrews 11:12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; despite scientists insisting throughout most of history that there were only about 6000 stars. In the early 17th century [[Galileo]] turned a telescope to the heavens and discovered a great number of stars that had been previously invisible to the naked eye.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://galileo.rice.edu/lib/student_work/astronomy95/orionpleiades.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Not until the 20th century did scientists discover the tremendous number of stars:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/07/22/stars.survey/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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But even that scientific estimate was much too low.  On December 1, 2010, scientists admitted:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/1201/Universe-might-hold-three-times-more-stars-than-previously-thought&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Uniqueness of stars===&lt;br /&gt;
Although the use of telescopes to chart the outer-reaches of God's heavenly creation was developed around the 16th century in Europe, the Bible accurately hypothesized that every star is unique.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spherical Sun and Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
The Book of Isaiah establishes that the true shape of the earth is a sphere:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|He sits above the sphere of the earth, and its inhabitants look to him like grasshoppers.  He stretches out the galaxies like a curtain, spreading them out like a tent to live under: - [[Isaiah 34-42 (Translated)#Chapter 40|Isaiah 40:22 (CBP]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Isaiah was written circa the 8th century BC, and the Book of Proverbs even earlier.  This was centuries before Greek philosophers, beginning with [[Pythagoras]], theorized the earth was round, and it was not discovered until 2012 that the sun is perfectly spherical.  Astronomers were not able to conclude until well into the second millennium of [[Christ]] that the Earth is also a sphere.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earth free floating in space===&lt;br /&gt;
The book of Job states that God &amp;quot;hangs the [[Earth]] on nothing.&amp;quot; It also contrasts with Greek Mythology's belief that [[Atlas]] holds up the Earth, or ancient Hindu and Native American myths that the Earth was on top of a gigantic turtle.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible presaged the modern view that space is in fact empty, which wasn't known until the dawn of the 20th century when ether theories became disfavored.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cosmic Background Radiation===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis Chapter 1]] explains that God created light first, rather than merely stars.  A &amp;quot;big bang&amp;quot; would result in light everywhere, without darkness, and without ripples in cosmic background radiation.  Yet in the 21st century ripples were discovered in cosmic background radiation, which can only be plausibly explained by recognizing that light was created first.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Meteoroids===&lt;br /&gt;
The Revelation of Saint John notes, &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. Revelation 8:8-9 (KJV)}}&lt;br /&gt;
This accurately describes meteoroids, essentially large chunks of rock lit on fire by the shock of entering the earth's atmosphere.  They were not discovered until 1801, and their composition was not otherwise known until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Stellar proper movement===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Job]], a list of challenges are constructed in the form of questions, with the idea that man can't do it, but God can. Among these challenges, two are remarkable: one mentions the ''untying'' of Orion's belt, and the other is the ''binding'' of the Pleiades. Only recently, astronomers could measure the proper movement of those stars; Orion's belt is moving apart, with each star going in a different direction, while the Pleiades are moving together.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Space flight===&lt;br /&gt;
Many theorize that the book of [[Ezekiel]] contains descriptions of spaceships and rockets, as they would have been described by someone thousands of years ago. [http://www.spaceshipsofezekiel.com/ Author Blumrich] has even published an entire book about this.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Expanding universe===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible explains, in 17 different verses, that God &amp;quot;stretched out&amp;quot; the heavens,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.creationists.org/God-streched-out-the-universe-bible-verses.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in other words, expanding the fabric of space-time from a smaller size to a much larger one. Scientists have discovered only in the last 100 years that, by studying the red shift of galaxies, the universe indeed appears to be expanding, or &amp;quot;stretching out.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Water cycle, and the Six days of Creation Week===&lt;br /&gt;
The existence of the water cycle was widely unknown to pagan people's until imperial Roman times. But the Bible described the water cycle over a thousand years before that. In general, see [[Ecclesiastes]] 11:3, [[Job]] 26:8 and [[Amos]] 9:6.&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be a more Biblically central reference to the water cycle: The reports in Genesis 1 of five things that God names (v. 5=two, v. 8=one, v. 10=two) seem to be consistent with five basic features of the geophysical half of Earth's life-support cycle. In Earth sciences, it is known that the total life-support cycle is irreducibly complex in relation to Earth's distance to the Sun, and this complexity maintained on an order of mere days' reserve: flora and fauna are interdependent, their interaction is necessary for the maintenance of the atmosphere, and if any one of those five features suddenly ceased, Earth would fail to support life in a matter of days.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Immense power within atoms alluded to in 2 Peter chapter 3 ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Abomb.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|The [[atomic bomb]] that was dropped on [[Hiroshima]] unleashed the equivalent of about 15 kilotons of TNT.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The immense power within atoms is alluded to in the Bible in 2 Peter chapter 3.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel White III declares:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|John Phillips notes that Peter’s prophecy of a great, end-times conflagration of the earth and its atmosphere uses precise terminology that accurately describes a nuclear explosion. Liddell and Scott’s Lexicon define the “elements” as “the components into which matter is divided” (or atoms), and the term “dissolved” comes from the basic Greek word meaning to “loose” that which is bound (as in nuclear fission). The term “great noise” is found nowhere else in the New Testament and signifies “a rushing sound of roaring flames.” The term “fervent heat” is derived from a Greek medical term denoting a fever. But Peter’s use of it in application to inanimate objects is the only such known usage anywhere in Greek literature. Thus, Phillips observes, “Peter describes in accurate terms the untying of the atom and the resulting rushing, fiery destruction which follows it.”&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Impossibility of a Grand Unified Theory===&lt;br /&gt;
Billions of dollars and millions of hours have been wasted by scientists in futile pursuit of a &amp;quot;grand unified theory&amp;quot; for physics.  But [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis]] explains that the creation of light was done in a separate, initial creation, free of darkness or entropy, and thus incapable of theoretical unification with matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Light and color===&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the work of [[Isaac Newton]], white was considered to be the fundamental color of light, and other colors (such as red, green and blue) were formed by adding to white light.  Under that traditional theory, the fullness of all light (a combination of all colors of light) would result in something other than pure white.&lt;br /&gt;
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The transfiguration of Jesus is described with remarkable consistency in all three synoptic [[Gospel]]s: in the fullness of light Jesus and his clothing display an intense white, whiter than any bleach could produce.  This illustrates what was not discovered and accepted until nearly 1700 years later: that white is the combination of other fundamental colors, and the purest white light is formed by a perfectly full combination (see [[Prism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Action-at-a-distance===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Jesus]] demonstrated [[action-at-a-distance]], as recounted in [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]].  Scientists, particularly [[atheists]], denied the possibility of this phenomenon for thousands of years.  When Newton proposed action-at-a-distance as the basis of gravity, scientists continued to reject it, but eventually accepted it as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later the [[Theory of Relativity]] again denied the possibility of action-at-a-distance, but [[quantum mechanics]] subsequently proved that it does occur.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also [[Counterexamples to Relativity]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Quantum mechanics===&lt;br /&gt;
The fundamental principle of [[quantum mechanics]] is that the underlying reality is in random fluctuation, or chaos, until there is intelligent observation of it.  This is precisely what [[Luke 1-8 (Translated)#Luke 4:6|Luke 4:6]] reveals when it quotes the [[devil]] in saying that he has dominion over this world.&lt;br /&gt;
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The world was an abyss of chaos at the moment of creation, as explained in the [[Book of Genesis]].  The order created by God is on a foundation of uncertainty.  The discovery of this in subatomic particles in the 1900s, known as quantum mechanics, confirms the nature of the world as described in Genesis.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff, Matthew 13:24-30, describes a fundamental uncertainty that does not resolve itself until there is observation over time.  The authenticity of a simpler explanation of this parable at Matthew 13:36-43 has been challenged.  The parable may refer to a profound and pervasive chaotic struggle between good and evil, or in quantum mechanics the uncertainty in position and energy.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Observation of the wave function====&lt;br /&gt;
The second chapter of the [[Gospel of John]] describes the conversion of water into wine by [[Jesus]] at a wedding reception. [[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 2|John 2:9]] states: &amp;quot;When the host of the wedding feast tasted the water, it had been made into wine.&amp;quot; This passage implies that the drink was not wine until it had been tasted, or observed. The drink was a superposition of the state of wine and the state of water until it was observed as wine.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 16:19, Jesus draws a then-unusual distinction between what is fixed and what is uncertain by declaring, &amp;quot;Whatever you make binding on earth will be binding in heaven, and whatever you set loose on earth will be set loose in heaven.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Matthew_10-19_%28Translated%29&amp;amp;oldid=870778#Chapter_16&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This may describe the fundamental uncertainty that continues unless and until there is human observation that then causes the wave function to collapse into a particular (&amp;quot;bound&amp;quot;) state.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle====&lt;br /&gt;
Both the Old and New Testaments refer to a fundamental [[uncertainty]] that requires observation to resolve, akin to the [[Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle]] discovered in the 1920s:&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;The earth came to exist in an utterly formless and empty state.&amp;quot; -- [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 1:2]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The master refusing to order the removal of the weeds sowed among the wheat because of the uncertainty in distinguishing between the two until later.&amp;quot; -- [[Matthew 10-19 (Translated)|Matthew 13:24-30]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Wave-particle duality====&lt;br /&gt;
Wave-particle duality, first discovered in the 20th century, allows for a particle to sometimes be subject to gravity and sometimes not.&lt;br /&gt;
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The wave-particle duality was described nearly 2000 years earlier in the Gospel account of Jesus walking on water: [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:45-54]].  A close reading of the passage reveals the wave-like (or light-like) characteristic of the walking on water:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:48-49]] (italics added).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|he walked on the surface of the lake and came to the boat, ''nearly passing it''.  But when they saw him walking on water, they thought it must have been ''a ghost'', and cried out.}}&lt;br /&gt;
In a more general sense, Jesus could be viewed as the &amp;quot;particle&amp;quot; and the [[Holy Spirit]] as the &amp;quot;wave&amp;quot; of God.  A fuller understanding of the [[Trinity]] could have opened the eyes of scientists much earlier to the fundamental wave-particle duality of nature ... '''''and still could'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Quantum tunneling====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Quantum tunneling]] is the ability of particles to move through energy barriers even though ostensibly impossible based on classical laws of mechanical physics.  This was not discovered by scientists until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus proved this was possible in [[John 15-21 (Translated)#Chapter 20|John 20:26]], when he appeared before the [[Apostles]] in a closed room with completely shut doors.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Classical relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
Romans 10:6-7: But the righteousness that is by faith says: &amp;quot;Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ down) 7&amp;quot;or 'Who will descend into the deep?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).&lt;br /&gt;
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Equating ascending into heaven to bringing Christ down is an example of the fact that there is no universal reference frame, and only relative speeds matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Modern relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Theory of Relativity]] denies the possibility of action-at-a-distance.  But several passages in the Bible, such as [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]] and [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)|Matthew 27:51]], describe simultaneous actions from afar.&lt;br /&gt;
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The list of [[Counterexamples to Relativity]] has grown recently, and modern experiments in quantum mechanics have confirmed action-at-a-distance.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Second Law of Thermodynamics===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Book of Genesis]] states that the darkness or chaos in the universe can never overcome the light, or order.  This same concept was not discovered in physics until the development of the [[Second Law of Thermodynamics]], which holds that heat (or order or light) always travels in the direction of cold (or disorder or darkness), and never in the opposite direction.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10-11]] explains that the universe shall &amp;quot;wear out&amp;quot; like a &amp;quot;garment&amp;quot;, centuries before the discovery of the physical law that [[entropy]] is always increasing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nature of air===&lt;br /&gt;
Until about 300 years ago, common knowledge believe that the air was &amp;quot;empty&amp;quot; and didn't weigh anything. But [[Job]] 28:25 states, &amp;quot;To establish a '''weight''' for the wind, And apportion the waters by measure&amp;quot; indicating that the divinely inspired author knew the air had substance and weight.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Conservative forces===&lt;br /&gt;
James 1:17 describes the electromagnetic forces (light) as having no &amp;quot;shadow of turning.&amp;quot;  Not understood for nearly 2000 years, this predicts that electromagnetic forces are [[conservative]] such that their [[line integrals]] over a closed loop are zero.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mathematics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See main article: [[Math and the Bible]]''&lt;br /&gt;
===Zero===&lt;br /&gt;
Mathematicians in Western Europe did not discover [[zero]] until many centuries after the Bible was written.  But there are hundreds of references to the concept of zero throughout the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Banach-Tarski Paradox===&lt;br /&gt;
The only miracle described in all four [[Gospels]] is the multiplication of loaves and fish by Jesus, thought for thousands of years to be a mathematical and physical impossibility.  But the 20th century discovery of the so-called [[Banach-Tarski Paradox]] proved a mathematical basis for creating identical copies of an object out of no extra material.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Axiomatization of Arithmetic===&lt;br /&gt;
The full set of axioms for integer arithmetic may be found in the Bible.  For example, [[Luke 9-16 (Translated)|Luke 12:52]] is a striking statement of the commutative law for addition: &amp;quot;For from this point forward there will be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.&amp;quot;  This understanding presaged both later attempts at the axiomatization of arithmetic by Peano and the development of [[abstract algebra]] in the 19th and 20th centuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Infinity===&lt;br /&gt;
Most thinkers scoffed at the concept of [[infinity]] for thousands of years, despite it being referenced in the Bible in many ways.  See, e.g., Psalm 147:4-6 (God's &amp;quot;understanding is infinte&amp;quot;); [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)#20:1|Matthew 20:1-14]] ([[parable]] of the wages for the workers in the vineyard); Matthew 16:26 (one's soul has an infinite value to him, and nothing else can be worth more).&lt;br /&gt;
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But [[Georg Cantor]], deeply inspired by [[Christianity]], established a logical foundation for infinity that revolutionized all of mathematics as a result, with his development of [[set theory]] to accomplish his goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Calculus===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible emphasizes the importance of limits as a key distinction between this world and God; Calculus consists of relying on limits to derive useful results.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.aiias.edu/ict/vol_27/27cc_225-239.htm Norie Grace Rivera-Poblete: &amp;quot;''God and Calculus''&amp;quot;], Institute for Christian Teaching Education Department of [[Seventh-day Adventist]], Prepared for the 27th International Faith and Learning Seminar held at Mission, Muak Lek Saraburi, Thailand December 3 – 15, 2000&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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James 1:17 states that the first and second derivatives of God's light (truth) is zero, more than 1600 years before calculus was discovered: &amp;quot;with [God] there is no variation or shadow of turning.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Shadow%252525252525252520of%252525252525252520Turning&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/no-variation-or-shadow-of-turning-calculus-in-the-bible/ Nathan Albright: ''&amp;quot;No Variation Or Shadow Of Turning: Calculus In The Bible&amp;quot;''], Blog-Entry, Feb 24, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Arithmetic with Negative Numbers===&lt;br /&gt;
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Negative numbers were not fully accepted by mathematicians until the 1800s,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nrich.maths.org/5961&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; including how a negative number dominates the result in multiplication with a positive number, to yield a negative outcome.  Yet Jesus' parable of the sower and the seed, in Matthew 13:1-23, Mark 4:1-8, and Luke 8:4-8, explained the same effect nearly 2000 years earlier.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Indeterminacy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that God is &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  See Job 5:9 (God &amp;quot;does great things and unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 26:1 (&amp;quot;God's Majesty Is Unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 36:26 (&amp;quot;Behold, God is great, and we know him not; the number of his years is unsearchable.&amp;quot;) Psalm 145:3 (&amp;quot;Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised, and his greatness is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Proverbs 25:3 (&amp;quot;As the heavens for height, and the earth for depth, so the heart of kings is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Isaiah 40:28 (&amp;quot;Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Romans 11:33 (&amp;quot;Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!&amp;quot;)' Ephesians 3:8 (&amp;quot;to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;All quotations are to the ESV of the Bible.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John 1:1 teaches that logic is part of God, and thus logic itself must also be &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  For many decades the finest mathematicians thought that the consistency of logic could be proven, until [[Kurt Godel]] (himself a frequent reader of the Bible) proved the indeterminacy, or &amp;quot;unsearchability&amp;quot;, of mathematics.&lt;br /&gt;
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The existence of malicious trolls on the internet is difficult to understand, until one reads Matthew 13:24-30 - the Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crime===&lt;br /&gt;
Mark 4:22 says how nothing can be hid, neither can anything be kept secret. Empirical statistics show that the vast majority of crimes worldwide are solved.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Morality of animals===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 3:1-10]] explains that only humans understand good and evil, and clothe themselves because of it.  Repeatedly scientists have attempted to demonstrate that animals can understand morality also, but every attempt has failed.  No animal (other than humans) has ever been found that clothes itself. However, as limited case, animals do demonstrate altruistic behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Existence of dinosaurs===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Dinosaur]] fossils were not discovered until the 19th century, but the book of Job describes enormous creatures called behemoth and leviathan, the descriptions being similar to dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures.  It may also have referred to another similarly giant now-extinct species. Other dinosaur like creatures mentioned are the cockatrice and satyr &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/behemoth.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Killing methods of lions===&lt;br /&gt;
Until the 1970s naturalists believed that lions killed their prey by biting through the neck or by breaking the neck with a swat of a paw, while the Bible says that lions suffocated their prey. (Nahum 2:12) It was not until the 1970s that it was discovered that the [[Bible]] was correct.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BLions87.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Lions fit their mouth over the mouth and nose of their prey and hold it while it suffocates, in addition to other killing methods.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Giant sea creatures and Jonah===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Jonah (Translated)|Book of Jonah]] describes his survival in the belly of a giant sea creature for 2.5 to 3 days.  Scientists declared this to be impossible due to powerful stomach acids that quickly break down any material and the lack of breathable air inside marine animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010, scientists found the following materials intact in the belly of a gray whale that had died after being stranded on a Northwest beach:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/19/pair-sweat-pants-garbage-beached-whales-stomach/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, many sea creatures have gone extinct in the thousands of years since Jonah lived.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Gender of worker ants===&lt;br /&gt;
Proverbs 6:6-8 correctly states the sex of worker [[ant]]s (female), using the correct one of the two [[Grammar#Gender|grammatical genders]] available in Biblical [[Hebrew]].  Secular entomologists would not discover that fact until the 19th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=rzwSAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA6&amp;amp;dq=ant+undeveloped+female+worker+date:1700-1850&amp;amp;lr=&amp;amp;as_brr=0&amp;amp;as_pt=ALLTYPES#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false The study of medicine, Volume 5 By John Mason Good]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Harvester ants ===&lt;br /&gt;
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19th century [[Europe]]an naturalists were wrong about [[ant]] behavior - namely the issue of ants/harvesting (Harvester ants). The Bible was correct about ant behavior.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BWilliamsvsAnon71to73.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Hearing and snakes ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The scientific consensus and the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'' both indicated that snakes can't hear.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/snake-charming-and-bible-accuracy  Charmed, I’m sure!] by Calvin Smith&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ed5015.tripod.com/BCobra94.htm The Cobra and the Bible]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Bible said that snakes can hear. 21st century research showed that snakes can hear.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Vegetarian lion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The prophet Isaiah says that there will be a time when the [[lion]] will lay down with the lamb and the lion will eat straw like the ox (Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25). There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:8790lion-wont-eat-meat.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
David Catchpoole wrote at the website of [[Creation Ministries International]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|From 1946 to 1955, A female African lion, born and raised in America, lived her entire lifetime of nine years without ever eating meat.1 In fact, her owners, Georges and Margaret Westbeau,2 alarmed by scientists’ reports that carnivorous animals cannot live without meat, went to great lengths to try to coax their unusual pet (‘Little Tyke’) to develop a taste for it. They even advertised a cash reward for anyone who could devise a meat-containing formula that the lioness would like. The curator of a New York zoo advised the Westbeaus that putting a few drops of blood in Little Tyke’s milk bottle would help in weaning her, but the lioness cub refused to touch it—even when only a single drop of blood had been added.&lt;br /&gt;
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The more knowledgeable animal experts among the many visitors to the Westbeaus’ 100 acre (40 hectare) ranch also proffered advice, but nothing worked. Meanwhile, Little Tyke continued to do extremely well on a daily diet of cooked grain, raw eggs and milk. By four years of age she was fully grown and weighed 352 pounds (160 kg)...&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Westbeau’s observation of the lioness that ‘To condition her stomach she would spend an hour at a time eating the succulent tall grass in the fields’, is also a vivid reminder of the prophecies of Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25, ‘ … the lion will eat straw like the ox.’&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Linguistics==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The Tower of Babel by Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1563.jpg|thumb|350px|The Tower of Babel by [[Pieter Bruegel the Elder]], 1563.]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Common descent theory===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[theory of evolution]] suggests that all languages are descended from a common ancestral language, and for a century (1860 to about 1960) scientists clung to that view.  But now most linguists identify many different families of languages that have no common ancestor, just as described in Genesis 11 with the [[Tower of Babel]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earliest Hebrew writings===&lt;br /&gt;
Skeptics have claimed that [[Hebrew]] writing did not exist before the 6th century B.C.  But a recent Israeli archaeological dig dated four centuries earlier, in the 10th century B.C., included an artifact found at Khirbet Qeiyafa in the Elah Valley.  This artifact contained a written inscription in Hebrew relating to &amp;quot;slaves, widows and orphans.&amp;quot; Haifa University Professor Gershon Galil noted that this disproves the theory that the Bible could not have been written before the 6th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2010/01/08/Bible-may-be-centuries-older-than-thought/UPI-21171262997765/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Economics==&lt;br /&gt;
===Poverty===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus stated that there will always be poverty,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Mark 14:7, Matthew 26:11 and John 12.8.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yet [[liberals]] repeatedly insist that poverty can be eliminated with more government spending.  Every attempt to eliminate poverty has failed just as Jesus predicted. In 1991 [[Ronald Coase]] won a [[Nobel Prize]] in [[Economics]] for the [[Coase Theorem]], which implies that government attempts to reduced poverty will interfere with efficient operation of the economy, and thereby reduce wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Socialism and Capitalism===&lt;br /&gt;
Ecclesiastes 5:18-19 says that [[capitalism]] is a gift from God:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God give the him: for it is his portion. Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Government and Politics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also [[Biblical political foreknowledge]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nation-state===&lt;br /&gt;
Ancient Israel, as described in the [[Old Testament]], was a [[nation-state]] and that model was not utilized again until thousands of years later, well after the Renaissance in Western Europe.  This model of a nation-state has become the modern standard worldwide.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Separation of Powers===&lt;br /&gt;
The separation of powers adopted successfully by the [[U.S. Constitution]] in 1787, with the legislative, executive, and judicial branches having separate authority and jurisdiction, was first described in the Old Testament.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Jeremiah 17:19 and Isaiah 33:22.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Liberal influence on the media===&lt;br /&gt;
The Third [[Three Temptations of Christ|Temptation of Christ]] is to bow down and worship the [[Satan]] in exchange for becoming ruler of the world.  The media plays that role and its influence is predictably liberal and anti-[[Christian]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Engineering==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge about these engineering developments has been proposed:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2191&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|automobiles (Joel 2:3-4); airplanes (Isaiah 31:5, also 40:31); submarines (Revelation 9:1-11); radio (Ecclesiastes 10:20); and television (Revelation 11:3-12)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Classical photography, using negative imaging, was predated by the [[Shroud of Turin]] with respect to the imaging on the Shroud likely due to the light of the [[Resurrection]]. The Shroud ([[Greek]]: σινδών - sindón)  is mentioned in three Gospels: Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46, Luke 23:53, while John 20:5-7 talks about a face cloth or napkin ([[Greek]]: σουδάριον - soudárion - perhaps the [[Sudarium of Oviedo]]), and a piece of fine linen ([[Greek]]: ὀθόνιον - othonion). The description by the eyewitness John implies that his sighting of the Shroud may have confirmed his [[faith]], though he doesn't mention its photograph-like image.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Calvin, who opposed the Catholic Church, wrote a book in 1543 criticizing all material evidence of Jesus and the martyrs.  In it he claimed that because the negative image on the Shroud is not described in the Gospels, it must not be authentic. [[John Calvin]]: ''Traité des Reliques'', Geneve 1543, translated by Valerian Krasinski: ''A treatise on Relics'', Edingburgh 1854&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alleged &amp;quot;contradictions&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge is an underpinning of creation science, and is widely credited by Christian scientists and apologists, including the organizations [[Creation Ministries International]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creation.com/modern-medicine Creation Ministries International on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Answers in Genesis]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i1/medicine.asp Answers in Genesis on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[CreationWiki]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creationwiki.org/index.php/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge  Bible Scientific Foreknowledge]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists and liberals unsuccessfully attempt to discredit the Bible based on science.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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===Value of Pi===&lt;br /&gt;
Two sections of the Bible (1 Kings 7, 23-26, 2 Chronicles, 4, 2-5) appear to indicate that the correct value of [[Pi]] is 3, whereas Pi is, in fact, an irrational number, equalling approximately 3.14159. Atheists, including [[Sam Harris]] and [[Richard Dawkins]], allege that this value indicates the fallacious nature of scripture.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://richarddawkins.net/articles/139 The Richard Dawkins Foundation, ''Reply to a Christian'', Sam Harris -]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, a simple explanation of the claimed &amp;quot;contradiction&amp;quot; is that the Bible records the ratio of the actual object which Hiram created, not that of a mathematical [[sphere]]. The claim that it was round all about does not equate to a claim that it was a perfect sphere, as atheists have claimed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Theology'', Volume 59, Issues 427-438,  Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge (Great Britain), London, 1956, p. 23&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, Pi to one significant digit is 3. Just because the measurement is given to only one significant digit, that does not mean it was precisely that amount.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;There are no instances in the Bible where fractions are used.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of course, since Pi is an irrational number, it would be impossible to give a truly precise measurement. Since decimal notation was not in use in Biblical times, there was no way to express Pi to greater accuracy in the language of the day.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bat as a bird===&lt;br /&gt;
A favorite [[evolutionist]] canard is that [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:13-19]] labels the [[bat]], a [[mammal]], as a [[bird]]. The [[KJV]] translation of &amp;quot;fowl&amp;quot; is simply incorrect, as the Hebrew term '' 'owph'' did not entail the &amp;quot;clade&amp;quot; of birds, but was a non-scientific category simply referring to ''any'' winged creature. A popular Jewish translation, used to explain the laws of keeping kosher, translates the term as &amp;quot;winged flying things.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Rabbits, coneys, and cud===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:5-6]], the Bible states, {{cquote|And the coney ''(or hyrax)'', because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.}} While rabbits do not, in fact, regurgitate food and re-chew it, they have the same jaw motions as animals that do&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/do-badger-and-rabbit-chew-cud&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and thus appeared as cud-chewing to the Jews of Moses's time. Atheists and liberals love to misrepresent this passage only because they are in [[liberal denial]] of the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Number of legs of insects===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:20-23]], the Bible states, {{cquote|All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the &lt;br /&gt;
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But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.}}While this may appear to indicate that insects have four legs (they have six), the passage is in fact referring to the manner in which the grasshopper moves. Grasshoppers have large back legs mainly used for jumping, and not for walking, which is when it uses its smaller four front legs. Thus, the ancient Hebrews were just describing things as they saw them, not according to scientific nomenclature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay:Rebuttal to Biblical scientific foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Biblical political foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christianity and Science]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Prodigal Son]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.creationwiki.org/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge Biblical scientific foreknowledge] by [[CreationWiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/10/scientific-consensus-and-evolutionary.html Jesus vs. the scientific consensus and evolution. Jesus wins!]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Ten of the Top Scientific Facts in the Bible&amp;quot;, Living Waters Films with Ray Comfort. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sMJMXDiH4]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for adding your edits, hopefully you'll become a regular contributor.  If I can help you out with anything let me know.  [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 19:45, 27 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:49, 27 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Account promoted to skip the Captcha requirement.  Thanks for your enlightening edits to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 19:37, 28 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:45, 28 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations and welcome.  You should be aware that people who edit at both CP and WP with the same user name are sometimes harrassed at WP as a result. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:11, 29 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thank you for the welcome and thanks for the heads up! I've already received some heat on Wikipedia for taking some unpopular positions and opposing the bias there, so it will be nothing new for me. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 29 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw your helpful addition to the article on Murder of Seth Rich, so I thought I would visit your talk page. How long have you lasted on the WickedPedia? I would be surprised that you would last long there, as I have found the WickedPedia incredibly intolerant and censorious, a pseudo-aristocracy with dominating bullies, biased enough for me to consider it a candidate for the Big T award (T in the Calvinist TULIP); i.e, total depravity! LOL I don't think you can do much on Wikipedia without being part of a group of old boys or buddies who work together.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 19:26, 23 August 2016 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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:Did you mean my Wikipedia talk page? I have been editing Wikipedia for almost three years already. A big reason why I've lasted so long there is because many of the topics I edit are not particularly controversial. However, you are completely right in your description of Wikipedia. I have seen firsthand the massive (and very visible) intolerance and bias Wikipedia has against conservatives, Christians, and anything that contradicts secular and humanistic (pseudo)&amp;quot;scientific knowledge&amp;quot;. I could probably write a book about all my criticisms of Wikipedia. I have been able to do some good work (I was able to bring the article &amp;quot;Electoral history of Ronald Reagan&amp;quot; to official &amp;quot;Good Article&amp;quot; status, and I created a few articles), but on other articles, like the Murder of Seth Rich, we cannot have much confidence on the quality and neutrality of those articles. I do applaud you, Thunkful2, for your excellent work on &amp;quot;Murder of Seth Rich&amp;quot;. It's awesome that at least one person can accurately present this story! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:35, 23 August 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I meant right here, this talk page -- I visited it after seeing your good edit.  No, I haven't gone to your talk page on the WickedPedia.  Thanks for the complement.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 10:45, 24 August 2016 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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:OK, got it. And thanks for your complement. :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:50, 24 August 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== References from Wikipedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While it's not really plagiarism to copy a reference from WP, it just want to point out that you probably shouldn't do so unless you have read that source, and believe that it supports what is being said.  If you are reading the books you are referencing, that's fine--I just can't tell. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:33, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, that's a good point. I actually did not read those books, I just wanted to cite something so I wouldn't be adding unsourced info to the article. Should I remove those references anyway? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:36, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It is a good idea to find references to support unsourced statements, but it is a little deceptive to cite something you haven't read.  To be entirely beyond reproach, removal probably would be best.  At this point though, I honestly don't know if I'd bother.  In my opinion, it's up to you.  No one else has said anything, so it might be okay to leave them, I'm just not sure. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:51, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::OK. I will do my own research and find other sources that I can use instead. However, it's getting late, so I will deal with that tomorrow. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:58, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your account has been promoted to include blocking and overnight editing capability.  Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:30, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Congratulations! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:57, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well done!  [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 01:06, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks all! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:21, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Excellent!  you did good keeping an eye on that vandal yesterday. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 14:52, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Thanks, Progressingamerica, I appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:42, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Reading the WSJ==&lt;br /&gt;
Re: [[Christoph Blocher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Typically, when I want to read a WSJ article that requires subscriber sign in is to Google the headline and access the web page from a search engine instead of directly.  Most of the time this requires a clean browser tab, sometimes it needs to be done in a different browser.  Rarely, it requires a cookie clearing.  Just thought that information may be of help.  This even works with articles that are years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a last resort, see if its in the internet archive.(though, most articles I don't want that bad to keep trying)  But they're all good procedures to know.  Sometimes works for other news sites too, besides WSJ. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 00:00, 10 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the tip! That's what I will do. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:32, 10 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your account has been promoted to include upload and rollback features.  Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations! Keep it up! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:31, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks David! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:43, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Move and unlock requests ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You can post your move and unlock requests to [[User talk:Karajou]]. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:30, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for the tip! It's getting late, so I will do that tomorrow. I appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:37, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You don't actually need any privileges to do a move. You can cut-and-paste from one lemma to another. For purposes of copyright law, the edit summaries must make it clear where the incoming material comes from. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 00:54, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Karajou blocked a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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People should not be judged in race on alleged sexuality. A proper critique of Karajou would be asking him about blocking a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor.--[[User:Rodgerr|Rodgerr]] ([[User talk:Rodgerr|talk]]) 19:04, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If you think you have been judged unfairly, you could have just emailed Karajou or webmaster@conservapedia.com (see [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Member Accounts]]). However, more than once, you decided to take the low route, calling him filthy, immature words [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Karajou&amp;amp;diff=1283494&amp;amp;oldid=1283491]. See [[Conservapedia:Avoid personal remarks]]. And why in the world did you do this? [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Coal_burning&amp;amp;curid=140922&amp;amp;diff=1283484&amp;amp;oldid=1283423] (for someone who apparently abhors Trump for the tape, your words seem just as bad) That, honestly, is shameful. I will note that the &amp;quot;Bringreaganback&amp;quot; account clearly violated [[Conservapedia:90/10 rule]]. Considering all this, it's quite clear you deserved the block. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:12, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In response to your good question about entries on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]], currently there are about 112 featured entries there, which are &amp;quot;reshuffled&amp;quot; periodically.  Do you have any suggestions about how that &amp;quot;team&amp;quot; of entries be improved, with respect to insight, influence, popularity, interest level, educational value, etc.?  It's a terrific mix of topics now but there is always room for improvement, particularly as the issues and interest in certain topics by the public inevitably shifts over time.  Thanks much for any suggestions you may have.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:46, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:An example:  &amp;quot;[[Underrated Sports Stars]]&amp;quot; is a solid entry, but should probably be replaced on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]].  Do you have any favored, influential, insightful, potentially or already popular entry that you like, which you would recommend to replace it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:55, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I do have a few suggestions. [[Murder of Seth Rich]] is probably the best suggestion, as it is very detailed and well sourced. Also, the Wikipedia article of the murder has been the victim of leftist bias (two times, within a month, editors have tried to delete the article, and with that failing, the article appears to have been stripped of much detail) which our article covers well. Other suggestions that I have are the [[Ark Encounter]] (a popular and influential attraction, and one that has been the victim of atheist and evolutionary bias, which the article covers), and [[Larry McDonald]] (a true patriot who stayed true to his principles, and his article actually covers the theories on his possible survival). --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:22, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted again == &lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations, your account has been promoted again, so that you can edit protected articles, and protect and unprotect articles.  Very well done!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:05, 10 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow! Thank you very much, Mr. Schlafly! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:19, 10 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations!  I've had some problems with the &amp;quot;protect&amp;quot; privilege, but I hope it works for you! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:35, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks! I hope so too! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:15, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Congratulations on yet another promotion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Can't edit article==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi again, 1990'sguy, it's Ambassador. Is there any reason I can't edit the article on the [[Big Bang]]? To keep atheists from changing it, I suppose. If you have access to it, you might want to add the point about the Big Bang, due to planets and moons spinning backwards, contradicting the law of Conservation of angular momentum. Find out about it [http://www.creationwiki.org/Three_planets_and_several_moons_revolve_backwards_(Talk.Origins) here]. Thanks! [[User:Ambassador|Ambassador]] ([[User talk:Ambassador|talk]]) 19:56, 22 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, the article is protected probably because of atheist/secularist/liberal vandalism. Unfortunately, I cannot edit it myself as I do not have full admin capabilities. I recommend asking an admin ([http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&amp;amp;username=&amp;amp;group=sysop&amp;amp;limit=100 list]) to unlock the article or add the information you want added. Or, you can go to [[Talk:Main Page|the main talk page]] and add your request there, where more people can see it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:08, 22 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thank you! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello there, and thank you for editing the article on [[Islam and Christianity]]. --[[User:SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S|SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S]] ([[User talk:SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S|talk]]) 09:13, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No problem, and thank you for creating it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:14, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And also thank you, for your help - and tips! - on [[Jared Kushner]]. I'll try to remember the ref's and cat's in the future. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] ([[User talk:Ed Poor|talk]]) 21:49, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sounds great and you're welcome! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Geocentric page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I added a bit on the talk page a while ago. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:15, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you mean on the section &amp;quot;Ptolemy's view of a stationary earth&amp;quot;? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry for the late reply but yes. It doesn't seemed to have created a new heading so I will add that now. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:11, 5 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I removed it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:21, 5 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This is a simple misunderstanding. Please be reasonable. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is [[User:Amorrow]]. I had to dirty myself by creating a sockpuppet because you cut off every last channel of communication. The issues:&lt;br /&gt;
# SSN of dead people are release by the government of the USA. I made it clear that my father is dead. His name was William Knight Morrow. You can find his name and SSN, for instance, at [http://sortedbybirthdate.com/pages/19311104.html this page]. It is public, not private.&lt;br /&gt;
# You could have removed that link and let it go at that. I do not require notification of such actions. I do not care about that link very much. I put it there simply as a convenience.&lt;br /&gt;
Is the matter resolved? If so, then please unblock me or let me know here what remains unresolved.--[[User:Amorrow2|Amorrow2]] ([[User talk:Amorrow2|talk]]) 20:44, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I am discussing the issue on [[User talk:DavidB4]]. You are welcome to join in. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:48, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are unblocked. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the ref [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Donald_Trump&amp;amp;oldid=1293435]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:34, 18 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. Always happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:15, 18 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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You're not telling me it's just a coincidence, are you? [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:44, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Seriously? It is extremely unlikely that this passage, which is about the Second Coming of Christ, has anything to do with Donald Trump. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Dang :( Thought I'd had my first ever conservative insight. Must be the morphine. [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:56, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think this has more to do with biblical [[hermeneutics]] than conservatism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:00, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Merry Christmas ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Merry Christmas!  And have a happy New Year's Day. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:37, 24 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you very much, Conservative, and the same to you as well! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:43, 24 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I suggest doing the redirect in the opposite direction for two reasons.  First, it preserves the history and visits to the pre-existing entry.  Second, it leaves intact the &amp;quot;Saint&amp;quot; spelled out, which is a stronger and more effective title than the secularized abbreviation.  I'd be happy to change the direction of the redirect, if you agree.  Regardless, thanks for your efforts!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:01, 27 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes please, Mr. Schlafly, that would be great if you would move it. Just as long as the article shows up as being created by me on the &amp;quot;New Pages&amp;quot; feed. I didn't know that this article already existed, but I worked hard on it and I think that my article is of higher quality by any objective measure. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:39, 28 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==European immigration==&lt;br /&gt;
I was thinking of doing an article on the [[European immigration]] problem (don't want to call 'European immigration crisis', yet). Americans are woefully ignorant of what's happening in Europe, and we're looking at doing perhaps the biggest change in Immigration law since 1952. In Europe, whole new political parties have been spawned because of the establishment parties failure to deal with the problems. In 20 years, the German mi!itary may be majority Muslim which would impact the future of the NATO alliance. Better get started now in educating the American public on changing demographics and how this may affect America's role as a Superpower, assuming it still is by then. &lt;br /&gt;
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Would you care to collaborate? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Of course, I'll be happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Do you think we should add a subsection under UK about Brexit and to what extent that was motivated by immigration? Also, I'd like to include something about the Schengen Agreement. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:46, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Both of those are great ideas. The &amp;quot;freedom of movement&amp;quot; EU policy played a large part in the referendum and its aftermath. People are tired of unlimited immigration.&lt;br /&gt;
:::As for the Schengen area, people can go anywhere they want in Europe without worrying about border security (and before, it was quite tough crossing the border I've heard). The agreement is an essential part of the EU plan to reach full political unification. It really has nothing to do with economics. Also, criminals and terrorists can easily cross the border. The recent Berlin attacker was caught in Italy. He crossed at least two borders without being caught. Imagine if he tried doing that without the agreement. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:53, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Same as most of suspects in 1200 reported sexual assault cases New Years Eve in Cologne. Something like only 7 or 22 arrests have ever been made, while most of the other identified suspects are reported to have fled the country.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:06, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I created [[Social Security Death Index]]. After I add some ref's, I hope that we can revisit the notion of me declaring what my father's SSN is.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just to mention where I got this idea from, it is from the web site anusha.com . Sloan has lived an erratic and at times immoral life, but he is just below the level of genius in raw talent. I refer to him as an &amp;quot;accidental adventurer&amp;quot;. Please see thermo4thermo.org/sam_sloan.html for some of his life-adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
I am not promoting his lifestyle, but he is my publisher for my upcoming book. His web site is a mess. It has about 3000 pages but just a mess of cross-references. The home page is very, very long.  You can look at pages like www.anusha.com/pafc147.htm . He also has pages like www.anusha.com/uncles-p.htm . His memory is almost perfect. Near Total Recall. Anyway, I hope we can engage in dialog about my father's SSN.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 22:11, 3 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Hate crime==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear 1990'sguy, I am not trying to get into an edit war with you, but I believe that you are misreading the hate crime laws.  They do not address &amp;quot;hate speech,&amp;quot; just violence or other criminal acts against target groups that receive a lot of hate.  I suggest that you do further research, and I hope that you will come to the same conclusion. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 20:31, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, are you telling me that hate crime laws do not cover &amp;quot;hate speech&amp;quot;? Regardless, I think we should mention that slowly (but steadily) speaking out for biblical Christian principles (opposition to homosexual marriage, saying Islam is a false religion, etc.) is being seen as &amp;quot;hate speech&amp;quot; and vulnerable to being criminalized. See this recent story[https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/simon-turpin/2016/01/08/northern-ireland-pastor-not-guilty-criticising-islam/] and please note the recent attempts to censor Christian sermons in Houston (I don't know if other cities did the same). Censorship of Christian and conservative opinions is growing, and I could a few (but probably unrelated to hate crimes) examples. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:09, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, while you can keep you additions, would you please restore the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Hate_crime&amp;amp;curid=3861&amp;amp;diff=1298155&amp;amp;oldid=1298153 material you deleted in this edit] (particularly those three completely deleted paragraphs)? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:11, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thank you for fixing the dead link and finding an additional source.  You are exactly right. Hate crime and hate speech are completely different.  All Conservatives disapprove of speech codes, &amp;quot;safe spaces policy&amp;quot; and political correctness.  The First Amendment is clear that regulation of speech must be neutral as to the message.  The person(s) who wrote the [[Hate crime]] article years ago got a bit tangled up.  Liberals want hate speech codes, and Conservatives oppose them.  Both Liberals and Conservatives have voted to enact true hate crime laws to protect religious freedom and to address hate violence on the basis of race.  Some Conservatives argue that the list of hate targets in those laws should not include &amp;quot;sexual orientation,&amp;quot;  but that argument does not belong in a section discussing protecting religion.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I took out the two paragraphs because they were repetitive, out-of-place and not germaine.  Why not add them to [[Hate speech]]? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 21:39, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Thank you for clarifying and for moving the content. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:00, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You are welcome.  Our discussion here was a bit time delayed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 22:02, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
If you want to include the legislative history, it should explain which bill that was finally adopted that is being discussed and how the bill that was adopted differs from the earlier bills.  The people that worked on this article years ago were obviously opposed to a series of bills and were making arguments on why a bill would be bad.  Their narative is out of date.  We have a number of state and federal hate crime laws on the books and we need to describe what exists, give facts and statistics about how the laws work, and include some commentary on whether the law has been applied fairly.   If you want to expand the history section beyond the two sentences that I have explaining how the federal law expanded the role of the FBI, please do so.  But the fact that certain people sponsored bills that did not pass before a bill did pass is not helpful unless you explain what changes were made or how the early efforts illumniates our understanding of the bill that passed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:50, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:If these proposed bills became law, we should definitely include this (even if we word it differently). We should do this in order to inform the public about leftist laws and to show that they didn't always exist. Unfortunately, I am quite busy right now, so I cannot do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::1990sguy, these bills did '''not''' become law.  A similar bill later became law. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:10, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Not to sidetrack your guys discussion, but let me point out (cause the media hasn't) we have just witnessed something very rare and unusual in the US. Traditionally, because of state sovereignty, the states prosecute murder cases and federal government's role is restricted, for most of our history, to capital cases in the US military. In the 20th century federal crimes like murdering the president, or terrorism on federal property causing death ([[Timothy McVeigh]]), were added. This guy, [http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/12/us/dylann-roof-death-penalty-explainer/ Dylann Roof], has just been sentenced to death for violating peoples civil rights with a hate crime enhancement, and ''not for murder''. The federal government does not have the legal authority to try this as a murder case. In fact, Roof probably never will be tried for murder cause the State of South Carolina isn't gonna spend the time and money to do it after the feds are done. In my lifetime, I think this is only the fourth case like this I ever heard of, tho I'm sure there's been a few others. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:37, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Rob, this happened a lot in the 1960s. Civil rights workers would go South and were murdered and either the murder was not prosecuted or a local jury would acquit the accused.  The FBI would then investigate and the US DOJ would successfully prosecute for civil rights violations in Federal Court.  The question is whether there is enough of a commerce clause basis to allow for the passage of such federal crimes, and the courts have upheld them on the grounds that if the federal government did not prevent such intimidation, people would not feel safe crossing state lines.  Also, many states have suspended or abolished the death penalty, while it remains available in federal court.  State &amp;quot;sovereignty&amp;quot; is very limited and not ''actual'' sovereignty in the legal sense.  To me, this is a more interesting aspect of the Hate crime article than whether or not the definition should be expanded to include &amp;quot;gender identity.&amp;quot; [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:08, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'm not sure it happened &amp;quot;a lot&amp;quot;. There was the 'Mississippi Burning' case, where the local cops and others were charged with civil rights violations, but no one served more than a six year sentence. This is why &amp;quot;hate crime&amp;quot; legislation was added later, cause sentences were too light for a &amp;quot;civil rights violation resulting in death&amp;quot;. The problem in those days were all-white juries exonerating murder cases, so the feds invented a way they could prosecute killers. One guy was convicted in a state trial [http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/price&amp;amp;bowers/killen.htm 40 years later in 2005 of manslaughter,] but he wasn't the trigger man. No one has ever been charged with the actual killings.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Then there was Salt Lake City case of a civil rights violation resulting in death in 1978, but Utah was never part of the Confederacy, was not put under federal scrutiny in the Voting Rights Act, nor has a history of all-white jurries exonersting whites accused of murdering blacks. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::In the 90s Timothy McVeigh was the first person executed by the federal government since, like 1956.  But this was a terrorism charge resulting in death, not a civil rights violation, AFAIK. ([https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3azq6b/eli5how_timothy_mcveigh_only_got_convicted_of_8/ McVeigh was only charged with 8 counts of murder, although 168 were killed]). Since McVeigh, there's been maybe one or two other cases of people executed by the federal government.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Bottomline, the federal hate crime enhancement was added cause, while the feds proved they could get a conviction where the state failed to act, the penalty was too low. Since its inception, it's hard to find a single case that the law was used for what it was designed for. There is no evidence whatsoever that South Carolina would not prosecute Dylann Roos, or an all-white jury would have exonerated him if the feds failed to intrude. South Carolina has lost its right to govern itself, its sovereignty. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:32, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If this is true, then it definitely should be added. It would give yet another ignored example of massive governmental expansion and movement towards socialism. JDano, if the 2009 proposal did not become law, then what did the actual law consist of? If the bill that was listed on the article did not become law, then there is no point in including it. However, a legislative history of successful bills would be good. However, I am still quite busy, so I will not attempt to do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I will provide the details you seek when i get some time. You were in the top 5. --Jpatt 10:19, 16 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you for the reply Jpatt! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:40, 16 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am continuing the discussion on my talk page.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 10:39, 22 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Question==&lt;br /&gt;
What would be the best word to describe Eurosceptic's opponents? Eurocentric? Pan European? Some other? I don't like globalist in this context. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:42, 28 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I would say either &amp;quot;Europeanists,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Europhiles,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Euro-Federalists&amp;quot; are the best. They either seem to be the most used terms. Of those three, I would personally opt for the first. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:00, 28 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Ban editing ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I've noticed you sometimes change blocks by other admins to increase the time or make in infinite.  I appreciate your intentions, but just thought I would point out a couple things.  Firstly, the blocking admin generally has the final say over the block they have imposed.  For example, if a person want to dispute the ban, they are to go to the blocking admin, and that admin decides whether to revoke the ban or not (as can be seen [[Conservapedia:Quick_reference#If_you_get_blocked|here]]).  Since you are not revoking a block, it's probably not as big of an issue, but it still seems to be proper etiquette. Of course, full admins have authority over assistants such as you and I, so they have the right to direct revise of revoke blocks we make.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Secondly, While it makes good sense to block those people forever, it doesn't really work that way.  A ban applies to the username, and the IP from which they edited if the option is selected--nothing more.  Vandals almost always use servers to redirect their connection, however, so that their true IP is never seen by CP.  This means that when we block those users, we are really just blocking the server they were using.  This is a good thing too, but the problem is that these servers are usually assigned new IPs periodically, so the block no longer applies--now the blocked IP is unassigned.  Since most people in the western world still use IPv4, there are not that many spare IP addresses, so the IP is soon assigned to someone else. Now some innocent person is using an IP which for all eternity has been blocked on CP.  They probably will never even know, but if we set infinite blocks enough, the chances of that happening regularly increase continuously.  I know some people here do use infinite block regularly, but in my opinion its a logistical problem.  This is why I almost always set a time limit, or block only the username infinitely, and leave the IP unblocked (which I prefer not to do).&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your ongoing efforts! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:05, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yikes, I should have thought of that. The thought of indefinitely blocking innocent people from CP certainly is not a good thing. If you haven't reverted by block change, feel free to undo it. I'm too busy right now to do it myself. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:11, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The chances of that happening from a couple blocks are pretty low, but it can add up.  Anyway, no harm done.  I just thought I'd mention it. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:24, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== expand ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Gainful employment]]. Yes. I dare you to.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 08:32, 4 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Why? What's the purpose of you messaging me? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:25, 4 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Abortion]] article==&lt;br /&gt;
It's open for you to make your suggested additions.  As to the Leif Ericson image, what needs to happen is a new image uploaded in its place.  I'll try to find one later.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 13:18, 6 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:New Leif image uploaded and added to article. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 12:56, 7 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:02, 7 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Addiction article and TAR ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello again, Regarding the [[Addiction]] article and specifically its categories, I agree with JDano. Let me attempt to explain:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;TAR&amp;quot; is short for [[User:TheAmericanRedoubt|TheAmericanRedoubt]] a former user and assistant SysOp here at Conservapedia. People have differing opinions of him, but mine is that he did offer some valuable contributions, but also did not understand and did not learn the rules of CP. Among some other issues, he tended to add many &amp;quot;See also&amp;quot; links to articles which were not sufficiently relevant and did the same with categories.  Thus, when editors refer to &amp;quot;TAR&amp;quot; they are usually talking about this debris, which should not exist.  TheAmericanRedoubt (TAR) has since stopped editing here, and his account has been deleted.  However, some of the links and categories he inserted still exists, and make things look messy.  For this reason, a number of editors (including myself) try to clean up these issues and restore a little more order.  The guide page [[Conservapedia:How to create and maintain high-quality articles]] was the direct result of TAR's methods.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Regarding the categories specifically, it's best to maintain a &amp;quot;tree&amp;quot; structure.  A page should not connect to categories which also contain subcategories it links to. Also, it should link only to categories which contain it, not categories which the page topic can contain.  In other words, a page &amp;quot;drug&amp;quot; should be in the category &amp;quot;medicines&amp;quot; but not in a category &amp;quot;antibiotics&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I hope this clarifies a bit. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:42, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please allow me to apologize for my impatience with the &amp;quot;addiction&amp;quot; article.  You accidentally stepped into the remains of a hornets' nest.  TAR added lots of utterly irrelevant see-also's and categories, in what can only be described as an attempt to turn this wiki into survivalist-pedia, or perhaps James-Wesley-Rawles-pedia.  He offended a huge number of people with his implications that we were all supposed to stockpile bullets, batteries, and other survivalist stuff (I could look it up but it's too nauseating) and move to a &amp;quot;redoubt&amp;quot; in Idaho or similar place while we wait for the apocalypse.  We were also all supposed to be into some kind of crackpot Indian alternative medicine.  (I think it was called &amp;quot;ayurvedic&amp;quot; or something like that; once again too nauseating.)  The whole wiki was in an enormous uproar for a few months.  (And Cons, who really doesn't subscribe to that stuff, nevertheless stirred up the pot by pretending to be in email contact with the guy.)&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you see suspicious see-also's or categories, especially with codewords like &amp;quot;nanny state&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;gun-grabbing&amp;quot;, be aware this might be detritus from TAR.  I support the second amendment, but I don't support putting all this survivalist garbage into an article on fire hydrants.&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 01:36, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It has taken a huge amount of work to undo TAR's damage.  I suppose that you think that there is a bias against any change he had made, and there is probably some truth to that.  He did not understand that our categories have a tree structure.  Instead, he thought of categories as a word association test.   Putting in excess categories and excessive red links makes Conservapedia less appealing to users and lowers our google search engine rankings.  In theory, every article could be in every category, because there is some plausible connection between any two subjects.  If we had a separate article on &amp;quot;Drug Addiction&amp;quot; then it could have categories like [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] or [[:Category:Drugs]].  The problem is that [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] is a subcategory of [[:Category:Drugs]] ''breaking up the category tree with an infinite loop.'' Here the Addiction article is on a much higher level that discusses video games, etc. So, it is not useful to a high school student looking for information about illegal drugs, in my opinion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 05:46, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thank you all for your explanations. Considering these things, I will try not to get in the way next time this clean up occurs. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:13, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
== Thanks! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You helped make [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/conservapedia.com THIS] happen. &lt;br /&gt;
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I have never seen a non-profit website go from below 100,000 rank to nearly a 50,000 Alexa ranking in about a year. And Andy payed zero dollars for internet marketing services during this period. &lt;br /&gt;
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And there is no sign of a nearing web traffic plateau. My guess is that Trump supporters/Trump era and the resulting political waves significantly explains the boost in traffic.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trump supporters seem very loyal so the traffic boost could be long lasting. It also seems like there is a reawakening of right-wing politics/nationalism that will be long lasting.  And right-wing populism and &amp;quot;[[best of the public]]&amp;quot; go together like peanut butter and jelly. :)  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:30, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You're welcome, and thank ''you'' for all your edits! I'm happy to help improve the quality of Conservapedia. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:56, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Quick project==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Guy:&lt;br /&gt;
Our state articles list the members of Congress from each state, but they have not be updated for 2016.  If five editors could update 10 states each, we would be done quickly.  Could you please take a look at [[Conservapedia:Community Portal#Political directory]]? Thanks in advance, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 16:13, 15 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your help with the project and with People's Party. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:02, 21 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tip ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your terrific work.  One tip: the licensing information should be expressly included in the uploads.  I added it here: [[File:EU_member_states.png]].  Thanks again for your edits and uploads.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:27, 7 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you for the tip. I will remember to add the information next time. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:34, 7 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Template:Book]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Try working on it now.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 10:48, 11 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A few months ago, you told me to ask you any questions I had, so here goes:&lt;br /&gt;
*When recategorizing the massive and messy [Category:Authors] by nationality, I found two authors, [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], whom I could not recategorize as [Category:American Authors].  Could you change them for me?&lt;br /&gt;
*When fixing the [[Francois Rabelais]] cedilla mess, I set up a redirect.  Has anyone ever made a loop out of redirects?  If so, what happened?  I'm scared to try it.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lastly, where is my attention now best sent - expanding the author articles, improving our coverage of science and mathematics, or maybe tackling another recat job, like [Category:Music]?&lt;br /&gt;
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:1) Concerning [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], those articles are protected, and as an assistant sysop, I do not have the ability to edit them. I recommend asking someone like [[User:Karajou]] or CP's owner, [[User:Aschlafly]] to either unlock the articles to allow you to fix the category or to have them change the cat themselves. I've made many similar requests to them and they will be happy to help.&lt;br /&gt;
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:2) I have not heard of someone doing that before. I personally don't think anything bad would happen if someone did try it, as you can still access the actual redirect page to remove the loop.&lt;br /&gt;
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:3) Honestly, all three choices are great. If I were you, I would probably choose to expand the articles already created so that the average reader would find them more interesting and worthwhile, rather than just seeing a stub. After that, I would personally move on to work on another category, so that CP is better-organized. Then after that, I would do math and science, which is (as far as I can tell) on a different theme than your other work. This is my personal preference, but if you would prefer doing it in a different order feel free! You have been very helpful to CP, and I appreciate your work. Keep it up! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:20, 14 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Hi, just a quick note: A redirect loop shouldn't be a problem.  I think the user is only redirected once, so after that they see the second redirect page.  Redirect loops, double redirects, and dead redirects should all be avoided when possible.  Thanks for your contributions! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:23, 14 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You are entirely correct, DavidB4; I just tried a loop with soda and pop (and removed it).  Typing one would give you the page for the other, and an option to redirect.  I'll proceed to expand the author pages now.  Feel free to removed this section to abridge the talk page.--[[User:Abcqwe|Abcqwe]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 15:58, 15 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Could you please write this article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please write this important article: [[Atheism and ethics]]? &lt;br /&gt;
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I may ask another writer or tow to contribute to it also.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:07, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, I think I will be able to find some time to do it. Unfortunately, I have other things on my to-do list (even for CP), but this article is important, and I will try to find time to help. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:10, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::OK. Thanks. I think [[User:Pokeria1]] will be assisting you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:55, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Sources to help you write an article ===&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.spectator.co.uk/2014/04/ethics-for-atheists/# Would human life be sacred in an atheist world?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheists_more_immoral.html Atheism Doesn't Lead to Immoral Behavior - Or Does It?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheism_determinism_morality.html Does Atheism (Determinism) Negatively Impact Morality?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://apologetics-notes.comereason.org/2015/03/atheism-ethics-and-immorality.html Atheism, Ethics, and Immorality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.thinkingchristian.net/posts/2016/01/good-nothing-make-atheist-ethics-better-christian/ Being Good “For Nothing” — Does That Make Atheist Ethics Better Than Christian?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/questions-on-atheism-ethics-and-marital-conflict Questions on Atheism, Ethics, and Marital Conflict]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics]&lt;br /&gt;
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Secular sources:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]&lt;br /&gt;
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Additional sources:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by Paul Copan&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://themelios.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-amorality-of-atheism The amorality of atheim] by Rob Smith&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/can-we-be-good-without-godCan Can we be good without God?] by William Lane Craig]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics and morality] by Ken Ammi&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.doesgodexist.org/NovDec06/AtheisticExplanations.html Atheist explanations of morality and common sense]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2015/09/does_being_an_atheist_interfer.html Does being an atheist interfere with being moral?] by Lydia McGrew&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://americanvision.org/2742/nietzsche-slaps-down-dawkins-on-the-illusion-of-atheist-morality/ Nietzsche slaps down Dawkins on the illusion of atheist morality] by Dr. Joel McDurmon&lt;br /&gt;
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== quick note ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you be interested in email communication with me? My email is userconservative135@gmail.com &lt;br /&gt;
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Please let me know if you are interested. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:54, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, that would be great! I've been thinking for some time of setting up a CP email address account, and I'll do that within the next couple of days. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:29, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK. That sounds good. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:02, 19 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Here it is: 1990sguysdg@gmail.com --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 21 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I just sent you an email. Let me know if you got it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:10, 21 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I wrote another response to your email. Please check your email box. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:05, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I got your latest email and responded to it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== If you are interested, another article that needs to be created ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If you are interested, another article that needs to be created: [[Secular ethics]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sources about this topic:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_ethics Secular ethics]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:11, 20 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== A couple more article suggestions related to atheism and morality ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, here are a few more articles that need to be written about atheism and morality:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Evolutionary ethics]], Wikipedia has an article on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_ethics&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Ethical naturalism]], Wikipedia has an article on it at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_naturalism&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Ethical subjectivism]], Wikipedia has an article on this subject at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_subjectivism&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your assistance on the [[Atheism and ethics]] article. It was much appreciated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:21, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Project I invited you to participate in plus   ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is the project I invited you to participate in: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Conservapedia:Atheism Project]]&lt;br /&gt;
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It should be easy to find relevant online material in order to create some of the articles. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:19, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you, Conservative, for your suggestions. I will begin on some of these soon. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:53, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I sent you an email. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:57, 24 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blocking user &amp;quot;reformed&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, I've got to say that vandalizing the user page of someone with block authority is '''really''' stupid.&lt;br /&gt;
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But I take issue with your claim that he was an &amp;quot;obvious sock&amp;quot;.  As one who has been blocked a number of times on completely bogus socking charges, I take that stuff seriously.  (The blocking was generally done by someone (now deceased) who had &amp;quot;checkuser&amp;quot; privileges and therefore had good tools for detecting socks, but did not understand how internet addresses work.)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is not at all obvious to me, as one who has a lot of experience at CP, that he was a sock.  He was a vandal, and you should block him for that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, dear.  Now I see that there's a big storm of this stuff going on.  And, yes, these guys, or at least some of them, are probably socks of each other.  And at least one of them is using the name &amp;quot;obvioussock&amp;quot;, just to taunt you.  And one says he used to be a washing machine in his previous life.&lt;br /&gt;
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My goodness!  I think you are being trolled!  :-)  :-)  And no, I had nothing to do with this.  Just block them.  It will blow over soon.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:54, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you for your message. :) Due to the fact that &amp;quot;reformed&amp;quot; was created right after I blocked two users and vandalized my user page, I assumed that it was a clear sock of one or both of them. However, as it was not clear to you and possibly others, I changed the block settings to just include vandalism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:06, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Screw up==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I'm working with a tablet, and it's a piece of garbage. I didn't intentionally remove your comments. Sorry. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:31, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Assuming you're referring to those at [[Talk:Main Page]], apology accepted. It can happen to the best of us. They were other user's edits, however. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:33, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thank you ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For your reverts yesterday on my userpage, saw the sock puppet master was not finished with his trolling. [[User:YortKeldher|YortKeldher]] ([[User talk:YortKeldher|talk]]) 07:37, 26 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:54, 26 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your improvements to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination]]. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 16:13, 29 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:30, 29 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== small request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you a message at the last place we communicated. Can you please read that message? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:59, 6 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I sent you the information I promised.  It is located at the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:36, 6 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sent you message. Please check place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:::I sent you a quick note to the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:51, 18 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Could you please go to the place we last communicated? It is regarding another matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Photo size==&lt;br /&gt;
With a large photo, there is much more word wrap in the table of contents, which makes it even longer.  We need a wide table of contents. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 19:08, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I've checked and double-checked, and I see no way how the larger-sized photo does anything to the table of contents. And I'm using a standard Google Chrome, 100% zoom screen. Could it be your search engine/zoom? I don't see any reason why the larger image is a problem in any way. I think it looks better, regardless. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:06, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::On Firefox the TOC is longer due to word wrap.  You can get other pictures to help fill the space, but the space will be shorter if the TOC is wider. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:19, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I am getting a lot of 500 errors.  I will wait for you to finish, and then I will go back and apply my changes. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:07, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have done my changes. But please, when making those changes, please do ''not'' revert changes I have made, particularly changes that I have already reverted you multiple times. I'm tired of these disputes. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:09, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
After some discussion (on [[User_talk:DavidB4#Conservapedia_IRC_channel|my talk page]] and [[User_talk:Aschlafly#IRC|Andy's]]) it has been decided that I start an [[Internet Relay Chat]] channel for Conservapedia, since our old one has been dead since 2009.  It is now registered and somewhat set up.  I don't know if you use IRC or are interested in doing so, but anyone with block privileges on Conservapedia can also get block privileges on the new IRC channel.  Unfortunately, IRC accounts are deleted after 30 days of being unused, so unless you plan on using the IRC at least once a month, there is probably not much point in registering.  In any case, feel free to try it out--if you account gets deleted, we can always make another one later.  If you are interested, please let me know!&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The IRC channel is: #conservapedia @irc.accessIRC.net&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Let me know if you have any questions or need anything else, also! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:33, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you for your response. I have never used or really even heard of IRC prior before now (or, more accurately, before you and Andy started talking about it). What is the purpose of IRC? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:47, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It is perhaps the oldest form of instant messaging.  It is basically a chat room, where people can join and idle or actively chat.  Visitors can ask members questions, and members can collaborate.  There is even file sharing, if that would be useful.  I'm going to be writing a how-to-use guide to explain the actual usage better.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Most people use software clients, which they install (or run portably, which a whole different story), but web clients are also available, such as [https://kiwiirc.com/client?settings=7c7240c62a5d4861a8ad0ba697929f39 this one].  With the web client, you can just pick a name and connect, without installing anything.  Also, since IRC has been around so long, software for it is compatible with almost anything.  All desktop and most mobile operating systems support it. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:55, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the info! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:24, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Already took care of that and left a note for [[User talk:Teapublican|Teapublican]] on his talk page. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:09, 20 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:08, 20 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Recent item on maintalk -- congratulations! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I just couldn't resist making fun of you there.  I immediately recognized the Breitbart article, as one that I had seen shortly before.  And then I saw that it was you.  No hard feelings, I hope.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 23:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:None at all. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:37, 24 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Congratulations!  The [[March for Science]] article is a ''really good article''.  And you made it so.  (Well, with a little prodding from me.)  It sets out, straightforwardly, what was going on, and it doesn't descend into namecalling.  I realize that you probably have very strong disagreements with what most of those people were doing, but you kept it professional.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Really good articles, especially on potential &amp;quot;hot button&amp;quot; issues of politics, aren't all that common.  Now maybe I will make another attempt to return the [[Pussy Riot]] article to the good state it was in back when I expanded it in 2014, before it got messed up with the implication that anyone who opposes murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin must be a &amp;quot;leftist&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;elitist&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;social justice warrior&amp;quot;.  For which I was blocked, in blatant violation of the rules of this site.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 14:25, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thank you for the compliment! Unfortunately, the router I'm using blocked the &amp;quot;Pussy Riot&amp;quot; article because of the first word in the title, so I cannot comment on that at all. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:00, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::How sad.  I have created the redirect [[Nadezhda Tolokonnikova]] in case that helps.  But it probably won't.  You had no trouble typing the &amp;quot;P&amp;quot; word above, so I guess it's a problem of your router not going to a page with that word in the title.  Maybe I should have named the page with its Cyrillc letters: &amp;quot;Пусси Райот&amp;quot;.  Well, you're not missing anything of cosmic importance.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 16:42, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The redirect actually did work. Thanks! The article does not appear to have a high quality (at least in the aesthetic sense), so changes would probably be beneficial, but if you're going to make changes, I would like to remind you to be cautious and not to contradict CP's POV. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:17, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::In case you forgot, Sam &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;(and how fast it appears that happens with you)&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;, it was ''you'' who violated the rules of this site by putting a liberal POV into that article (among others, [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/SamHB per your history]) in the first place, then insistently readding it after your edit was reverted and you were warned about violating CP policy and about starting fights with other editors. You really should take the advice you're being given here and not continue violating CP policy. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 21:59, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Today is my 9th anniversary at Conservapedia!&lt;br /&gt;
*I can assure everyone that I am very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP.  I am also familiar with the many, many, many discussions of these points that have taken place over the years.&lt;br /&gt;
*@Northwest: this is the expected response.&lt;br /&gt;
*@1990's guy: this is ''not'' the response I expected.  I'm chagrined that you think the article is of low quality.  Especially since you know how to write high quality articles.&lt;br /&gt;
I'm serious.  I was proud of that article as originally written/expanded by me.  I thought it laid out the facts accurately, and avoided name-calling and such.  Exactly like the March for Science article.  Please look at the article (preferably the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Pussy_Riot&amp;amp;oldid=1328015] version, before name-calling got put in) and fix it up as you see fit.  The name-calling consisted, among other things, of saying that those people around the world who took an interest in the case were &amp;quot;elitists&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;social justice warriors on the left&amp;quot;.  The latter term is straight out of Huffington Post and their ilk.  It is a term of bleeding hearts in America, and not used widely elsewhere.  In any case, one doesn't need to be an SJW to oppose murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin.  In fact, given the recent falling out between President Trump and Putin, the accepted orthodoxy here at CP might be swinging away from support for the murderous thug.  I hope so.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 11:28, 28 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:My problem is not with content; it is with organization, layout, aesthetics, etc. There are no subsections, which at least show the reader how the article is organized; it is just many paragraphs. Such articles do not appeal to the reader. IMO, it feels like reading a textbook. If it is just a few paragraphs, it is fine, but thus article has ten paragraphs. Adding a few headers and possibly an image would be beneficial (and I realized just as I wrote this that the March for Science article is approaching that length as well, so I probably either should just keep my mouth shut or add headers there as well). I did not mean to insult or degrade your work, and I apologize for giving that impression. BTW, happy 9th anniversary! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 28 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sam - by your response, you're only proving what I said about your tactics and your history here right. You claim to be &amp;quot;very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP&amp;quot;, but you only pay lip service to them here while your actions on CP over the years (and even now) are showing that you simply choose to disregard them for the sake of pushing liberal POV on this site and to start fights with those who don't share your viewpoint. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 18:08, 28 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bill Nye ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please contact me by email at sam4557@gmail.com?  I think we can make a really good article out of this.  I have a number of criticisms of his behavior--my opinion of him has gone down a whole lot over the last few weeks, and I think I have some insights about this that I'd like to bounce off of you.  I know that you and I disagree totally about evolution and creationism, but we can put together a good article stating the facts.  We can stay away from the name-calling that so many articles contain, and avoid things like &amp;quot;so-and-so falsely believes that ...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is ''not'' about Pussy Riot, ''not'' about Conservapedia politics, and ''not'' about you-know-who.  I just want to bounce some ideas off of you about Bill Nye and see if we can put together a really nice article.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Expanded article, footnote did not support genocide/racist abortions adequately ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I greatly expanded this article [[Abortion and eugenics]].  The footnote in the liberal article was not supporting or at the very least inadequately supporting racist/genocidal abortion policies of [[Margaret Sanger]], etc. &lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically, I skimmed the article as far as the footnoted article and it did not appear to strongly support such a big claim like abortion/genocide, etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:26, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Something isn't right here==&lt;br /&gt;
... Ohhh I know what it is. ''Margaret Thatcher'' is on the list of liberals. ''Margaret. Thatcher.'' The bastion of conservatism. A favourite of Reagan. How in the ''world'' did she make the liberal list? [[User:Koidevelopment|Vive]] [[User talk:Koidevelopment|Liberté!]] 09:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wasn't me who added her. She was not as conservative as people think she is, as she did vote in favor of legalizing abortion and homosexuality. But, that said, it would probably be better without mentioning her, to avoid people focusing on her mention in the article. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:24, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::She might not have been a perfect conservative, but I still think she probably doesn't belong on that list.  Of course, if you go back 80 years and read writings and speeches from liberals of the day, they sound downright conservative now.  Still, she did defend liberty and much of conservatism. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Lady Thatcher's criticism of Simon Callow's performance in ''Amadeaus'' made her homophobic, I thought. Being homophobic wouldn't preclude one from being liberal however, [[Bill Moyers]] and Louis Black for example. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:31, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I assume that adding the liberalism template to the [[Episcopal Church]] article was improper? I would like to know what the proper usage of this template is for future reference. TEC is one of, if not the most liberal Christian denomination in the US these days, sadly. I do apologize for this improper usage, as I am a new editor. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:00, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello Anglican! I removed the template because I thought the article was outside the scope of the &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot; template. What I mean is that the template links to liberal traits, but not necessarily to liberal organizations. I think the category is good for the article, but not template. I hope this helps! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That makes sense. Thank you for your patience. It's sad what has happened to the Episcopal Church in recent years. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You're welcome, and I agree. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on liberalism. So... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on [[liberalism]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The article needs major improvements. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am not going to work on it due to time restraints. I spent a lot of time improving the [[liberal]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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I would use the same approach used with the liberal article. Clearly delineate liberalism from socialism/fascism because they are very substantially different (for example, Sweden vs. Communist China vs. Nazi Germany). But mention how the gap between the ideologies has narrowed in the United States. I don't keep up with European politics to know the situation there as far as the gap other than knowing that China has become more capitalistic. European countries commonly have more major political parties in a country so the situation is more difficult to keep tabs on.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:33, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I posted the below information on RobS' talk page and thought I would share it with you also. You can go to RobS' talk page to see his response to me. &lt;br /&gt;
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::I would work on the liberalism article. But also create 2-3 sub-articles: [[American liberalism]] and [[Western liberalism]] and [[European liberalism]].  The [[American liberalism]] article is just a one sentence stub article. &lt;br /&gt;
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::I suggest a [[Western liberalism]] article due to the Canadians, Australia, NZ, and South Africa. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:09, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Since the Brits and Canadians have the most influence in the Anglosphere on the USA, you might want to create a [[British liberalism]] article and a [[Canadian liberalism]] article too. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::Its too bad all this wasn't done before given that CP is a political website. I was largely focused on [[atheism]] which is a dying ideology. This had an indirect relation to liberalism given the prominence of the [[secular left]] on liberal/leftist politics. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I copied and pasted some of the [[liberal]] article into the [[American liberalism]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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Generally speaking, ideally you want the material in the section for main article linking to a sub-article to have substantially different content. In this case, you want the [[American liberalism]] article to have different content than the &amp;quot;American liberalism&amp;quot; section of the [[liberal]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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So if you want to reword and/or add material to the [[American liberalism]] article the would be excellent. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Opinion on renaming an article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wanted your opinion on an idea of mines to rename one of our articles on Conservapedia before taking it to an admin or someone with the ability to actually change the name of a page.&lt;br /&gt;
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The current page [[Exodus of Israel]], I think, should be renamed to [[The Exodus]], where [[Exodus of Israel]] should simply be a redirect to that page. Not many users would think of typing 'Exodus of Israel' to get to a page on 'The Exodus', and 'The Exodus' is just much simpler. As it is, [[The Exodus]] is currently a redirect to [[Exodus of Israel]]. I think it should be the other way around. Your thoughts?[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 13:34, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I think it is better the way it is. My main reason is that having titles along the lines of &amp;quot;The....&amp;quot; does not sound encyclopedic. The current name, I believe, is more high quality for that reason. Now, it is true that many users might not think of typing &amp;quot;Exodus of Israel,&amp;quot; but if they type &amp;quot;[[Exodus]],&amp;quot; they'll run into the disambiguation page and find the actual article. Also, I'm not sure that many people would think of typing &amp;quot;The Exodus.&amp;quot; To sum it up, I think the current title is better and give the article a more encyclopedic feel, but you're welcome to ask another editor what they think. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the thoughts. Wikipedia currently uses 'The Exodus', and I find that it simply looks better, as a title, then 'Exodus of Israel'. Secondly, I also consider it more likely for someone to type in 'The Exodus' then 'Exodus of Israel'.[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 15:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Once again, if you want to ask another editor for their opinion, like DavidB4, feel free to do so. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:20, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your opinion. One thing though, do you know who can get this template locked?&lt;br /&gt;
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At this point, all relevant pages have been created, and therefore this template no longer will ever need any more editing as it is complete. So the best thing to do is to get it locked to avoid any vandalism problems in the future. Just to note, before I came on, it was already locked, even though it still had many problems. Now that the template is fixed, the best thing to do is to get it locked. [[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 20:57, 12 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I recommend asking [[User:Aschlafly]] or [[User:Karajou]]. They have protection powers. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:15, 12 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Block length==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your alert blocks.  But one year is a long time for a block.  IP addresses often change in a shorter period.  You might consider 3 months as a better block duration in many cases.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:25, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK. I'll see to that. Should I change the blocks I just did? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:26, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just went ahead and changed them. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:41, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Congratulations on Donald Trump accomplishments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, I just checked Google.  While that movie award comes up first when &amp;quot;Donald Trump achievements,&amp;quot; is Googled, and you are the first result after, you get nice results with certain other phrases:&lt;br /&gt;
*Donald Trump accomplishments - third link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
*Trump achievements - first link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
*Trump accomplishments - fourth link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
*Donald Trump achievements and failures - fourth link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
While Conservative's essays come up first when their exact titles are Googled, bear in mind that these phrases are Googled more frequently.&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations on the publicity, 1990sguy!--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 08:07, 25 May 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Great job, it is well deserved! - -[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, Nathan and DavidB, I appreciate it! It seems I chose the right article to create, in terms of gaining page views. For a while, when one searched the exact title of my article, that silly award was not at the top of the article, and in its place was a box with a picture of Trump linking to my article. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:24, 25 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you chat briefly?  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we chat briefly? Can you please go to place I sent you messages before? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:16, 3 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Here is the the article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Liberal vs. libertarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:54, 3 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== It's been great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You've been helpful since I you first welcomed me here - me, someone who had never used wikitext or HTML in his life and never believed in a young Earth.  You've really made me consider that viewpoint, and you've done it with a brilliant personal appeal, far better than User:Conservative ever has.--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 16:34, 4 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Europe's childless leaders==&lt;br /&gt;
Where do you think [http://dcwhispers.com/rather-odd-troubling-fact-european-leaders/ we can squeeze this in] [[European migrant crisis]]? In the Intro or elsewhere? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:13, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think that would be a good idea. We could also, possibly, add it to the [[European Union]] article, and maybe [[Globalism]] or [[Liberal]], as these leaders advocate for left-wing globalist policies. Are you able to find other sources that note this fact? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:53, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this also illustrates liberal European values. They support mass immigration of peoples who do not share their culture while they themselves have no children. They are committing national/cultural suicide. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:15, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The reason I removed Ted Nugent from Notable Texans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because Ted Nugent is actually from Michigan. Sorry that I forgot to add an explanation. ([[User:King Conservative|King Conservative]] ([[User talk:King Conservative|talk]]) 13:37, 17 June 2017 (EDT)King Conservative)&lt;br /&gt;
:I removed him from the list. Thanks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:16, 17 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Template tweak==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, guy! Thanks for the {{tl|See also}} in [[Neil Gorsuch]]. That template works better. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:53, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome, always happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:58, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Nasty edit summaries==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear 1990sguy:  Please stop writing inflammatory edit summaries.  There is no need to make false personal attacks on other editors.  As for Breitbart, each reference is evaluated individually on its own merits.  If it is news reporting, I welcome it.  However, some references are clearly opinion-editorial pieces that criticize other news stories instead of offering any independent news gathering.  Some authors there are editorial-opinion writers rather than news reporters.  Also, when I check a source and see photos of immodestly dressed women with &amp;quot;wardrobe malfunction&amp;quot; captions or women wearing tight T-shirts imprinted with &amp;quot;no silicone&amp;quot;, I am less inclined to use those sources, given our family-friendly approach. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:31, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Conservapedia has no requirement that only news reporter sources can be used for mews sources. For example, many excellent conservative editorial pieces link to a news story or quote a news story while providing excellent commentary. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The mainstream press. which is very liberal, have a lot more reporters and they still have some foreign bureaus if I am not mistaken. Then you have Fox which only has a fraction of the combined viewership of ABC, CBS, and NBC.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:To be overly reliant on news sources merely from websites who have reporters is not a good policy. &lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, there are conservative news organizations such as CNS News. But I don't think we should limit ourselves to merely using conservative news organizations as far as news sources.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:54, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree with Conservative on this. We can use conservative news sources, even if the articles appear to be editorializing. This is a conservative encyclopedia, after all. Why should we adopt editing policies that give liberal MSM sources an unfair advantage? How then can we differentiate ourselves from Wikipedia? I am not opposed to citing MSM sources (I do it myself), but we should give precedence to conservative sources, which do not have leftist bias. Yes, Breitbart has silly ads, but I care more about the content of the article than the ads. There are many Breitbart writers who support conservative, Christian pro-family policies. Are there any at CNN or the NYT?&lt;br /&gt;
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::JDano, yes, my edit summaries were inflammatory. I probably should have acted cooler when dealing with you, and for that, I apologize. Your behavior, constantly reverting and adding changes that I genuinely believe to contain leftist bias without going to the talk page until you've been reverted several times, is not constructive. I do believe your changes are undermining our status as a conservative alternative to Wikipedia. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 02:50, 29 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== re: JDano and you getting &amp;quot;horse throwing&amp;quot; mad ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the recent edit changes, I saw you use all caps in your description of your edit. It was for the [[Travel ban]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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This tells me that you are starting to get &amp;quot;horse throwing&amp;quot; mad. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it becomes necessary, you can impose a [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]] to JDano since you have blocking rights. You can make it applicable to certain articles or certain article categories. Probably a certain article would be best as a shot across his bow. &lt;br /&gt;
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If JDano also has blocking rights, you can get Karajou/Aschlafly to impose such a ban. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:29, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:P.S. I don't know if you are correct in this matter. And I don't have time to mediate. I am just offering you a suggestion since I have experienced JDano being unreasonable at times. Also, the majority of Conservapedians/Republicans/conservatives are more fans of Trump than Lindsey Graham.  JDano appears to be in the Graham camp. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:37, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Please see my comment in the section immediately above. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 02:51, 29 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the &amp;quot;travel ban&amp;quot; article.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just posted this message to JDano's talk page:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;You are not allowed to edit the [[travel ban]] article anymore.  I am imposing a [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]] on you for this article.  &lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in terms of its Muslim population. The travel ban of the Trump administration does not include Indonesia.&amp;quot;[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:13, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the fake news article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I posted this on JDano's talk page:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The [[fake news]] article was locked/protected. It seems as if the root cause of the page being locked was an edit war involving yourself. &lt;br /&gt;
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You are no longer allowed to edit the fake news article. I am imposing a Conservapedia topic ban on you for this article. See: [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope additional topic bans are not imposed on you by people with block rights.&amp;quot; [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:23, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Socks of JamesWilson  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Socks of this clown should receive five year bans. He is a malicious provocateur, and he singlehandedly destroyed another website as well as leading dozens of people off this site. Show this schlemiel no mercy. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:16, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't see why we should be giving long blocks to this guy. He's clearly using multiple ip addresses. These addresses will probably get passed to one or more people who have no intention of vandalizing CP. DavidB4 explained by long blocks are not a good idea on my talk page: [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:1990%27sguy&amp;amp;diff=1304184&amp;amp;oldid=1303142] However, I will not challenge your lengthening of that block or any other. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:20, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe you do have a point because he has created a few different accounts in the past day or so. All I'm saying is that lightening up on him isn't going to work. My late friend George let this guy off easy, and he destroyed an entire community. I've had plenty of experience with this guy in the past to know his MO, and he's fanatically obsessed with Taylor Swift and &amp;quot;avenging&amp;quot; others because they &amp;quot;ruined&amp;quot; his articles. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:28, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That's fair. This guy is clearly bad news. Regardless of what block lengths we give him (and I can see some sense in making them longer), we should try not to accidently prevent innocent people from viewing CP. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:30, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::How do we know that this editor is a &amp;quot;sock&amp;quot; of JamesWilson?  Has anyone checked the IP user logs?  The Taylor Swift connection could be a false-flag operation. If George and James got into an edit-war on a different website, that would not be relevant here.  Let's judge each editor separately until they can be linked by evidence. Are all of the problem users created in the past few days created from the same or very similar IP addresses? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:27, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::He put &amp;quot;Sad case!- James Wilson&amp;quot; in the edit summary of all of his vandalism, and it was the same stuff he's always done. If he says it's him, I'm just gonna assume it's him. Dont give this guy the benefit of the doubt. He's had plenty enough breaks here and elsewhere. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 16:03, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::@JDano: Yes, I think it clearly is JamesWilson. His vandalism is very repetitive -- he even vandalizes the user pages of the same users. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:52, 4 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*FYI, even if an account is blocked indefinitely, the autoblock on the IPs is only for twenty-four hours. If the IP block was for as long as the account's block, checkusers wouldn't have to put separate blocks on persistent vandals' IP addresses. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 18:26, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Articles==&lt;br /&gt;
Since I've written a few articles on Christianity, please feel free to edit them to conform to the views of Conservapedia if necessary. Admittedly, writing about Christianity as a Jew can be a bit difficult at times. --[[User:RonaldB|Ronald]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:35, 5 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have not seen any factual problems with the articles you created. However, I do recommend that you add categories of the religion you are writing about to those articles. For example, that you add &amp;quot;Category:Christianity&amp;quot; to [[Secular Christianity]] and &amp;quot;Category:Judaism&amp;quot; to [[Secular Judaism]]. The people who practice these are not Jews (religiously speaking) or Christians, but the articles are relevant to those religions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Also, I recommend that you add at least one source to the articles you create. Adding sources to articles is Commandment #2 in [[Conservapedia:Commandments]], and it makes the articles better for readers. They know where you are getting your information from, and they can read further if they are interested. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:51, 6 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Changing my username ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know if Andy saw my request on his talk page. Did he skip it or didn't see it? --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 9:18, 10 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know. Sometimes he does that, but when I message him again he usually replies. I recommend commenting again, letting him know how much you want your username changed, and asking him to respond. I think we will do it, but only if you absolutely want it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:49, 10 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I read [[User_talk:Aschlafly#Inquiry|the back and forth]] with the guy you probably were referring to on Andy's page. Andy seemed pretty reluctant to change the RonaldB's name for most of the discussion.. Is the process of changing someone's username complex or difficult to do, or did he just want to make sure that the guy wasn't being wishy-washy about the change? I was a little sheepish about asking him again because I don't want to seem annoying. --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 5:07, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think CP admins generally prefer simply creating a new account. The user who made the other request was not the original person using the account. The original person let him take over the account. I can see why Andy wanted him to create a new account. I recommend you politely letting him know how much you want your username changed, and why, and asking him to respond, regardless of his answer. I think that would be a good move on your part. It would show how serious you are with this request. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:06, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Trump ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think Donald Trump is going to get stuck with the blame for the economic bubble created by the Obama administration and the Federal Reserve.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwtkIpgAnA]  &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, TrumpCare probably will not work because it is keeping the &amp;quot;precondition clause&amp;quot; of ObamaCare due to its popularity. People will often not buy health insurance until they are sick. So the health care system will not be viable. Car insurance companies could not be profitable if people could buy their car insurance after their car accident in order to replace their car. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:00, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You are probably right on both of those things. The first point would be the fault of the Obama Administration, and the second by the establishment GOP Congress. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Got it, thanks for letting me know. --[[User:OneTrueConservative|OneTrueConservative]] ([[User talk:OneTrueConservative|talk]]) 00:12, 12 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 00:21, 12 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Expansion of right-wing material on the internet ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.axios.com/the-partisan-explosion-of-digital-news-2279022772.html The recent explosion of right-wing news sites]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3dy7vb/why-the-right-is-dominating-youtube Why the Right Is Dominating YouTube] - Vice News&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HndA5MoxK08 Why the Right is Dominating YouTube (A Response to Vice)]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.nctv.nl/binaries/psychological-effects-of-right-wing-and-islamic-extremist-internet-videos_tcm31-30177.pdf Psychological effects of right-wing and Islamic extremist videos]  - Netherlands and German report&lt;br /&gt;
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I haven't looked at the latter two items, but right-wingers gaining momentum on the internet is an interesting development.  With nationalism gaining ground in Europe and 21st century [[desecularization]] occurring, the trend is bound to continue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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===Scriptural Geology===&lt;br /&gt;
Scriptural Geologists published in the USA as well.  CRSQ published my review of David Lord &amp;quot;Geognosy&amp;quot; (that has other citations as well). [my magazines are in &lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks, Snoopy2, for your addition! I noted this fact, briefly in the article, in &amp;quot;The scriptural geologists&amp;quot; section. I knew that most of the Scriptural Geologists were British, and I did not have the time or knowledge of them to go into much more detail. Thanks for your help! Please remember to sign your posts in the future. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:06, 31 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== important message for you ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you an important message to the last place we communicated. &lt;br /&gt;
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I also have some good news for you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:10, 13 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BLOCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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BLOCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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== Block duration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your great blocks but they should generally not exceed 6 months in duration.  By then the IP address is typically being used by someone else.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:27, 27 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK. I will keep that in mind. I will change this vandal's block. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:46, 27 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Björn Höcke nannte das Holocaust-Mahnmal ein &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot;. Zudem sprach er von einer &amp;quot;dämlichen Bewältigungspolitik&amp;quot; und forderte eine &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot;. Hinterher behauptete Höcke, er hätte den Holocaust als Schande bezeichnet. Wenn man sich nun seine Rede genau anschaut, kann er nur das Denkmal als Schande bezeichnet haben. Höcke hat offen NS-Gedankengut offenbart und dies auch gewollt. Er ist ein Agent des BRD-Systems, die zum Ziel haben, die AfD unwählbar zu machen. Dasselbe haben sie schon mit der NPD gemacht (in den 90er Jahren). Ich find's ja auch schade, dass die AfD unterwandert wurde und nicht mehr wählbar ist. Auch ich habe große Hoffnungen in sie gesetzt. Aber spätestens seit dem letzten Parteitag ist sie unwählbar, die Neo-Nazis gewannen die Oberhand, Gauland wurde Spitzenkandidat. Solange Petry keine neue Partei gründet, müssen Rechtschaffene bei der Bundestagswahl das geringste Übel wählen (z.B. die Freien Wähler oder die BüSo). Aber die AfD ist klar von NS-Agenten unterwandert und ich schrieb noch mehr in den Artikel, also lassen Sie mich zumindest Höckes Rede einfügen, dann kann sich jeder selber ein Bild machen. MfG --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 10:16, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Grüetzi Elessar, CP ist ein Englisher website, so es ist besser wann wir in English schreiben. Ich denke dass die meisten leute heir sprechen kein Deutsch. Danke. Wass ich sage ist sehr kontrovers in Deutschland, aber, Ich probiere ein klares und gutes antwort zum geben:&lt;br /&gt;
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:First off, many political parties have their crazy members. I know that UKIP explicitly disavows racism, but it has had some members who have said some silly things. I definitely do ''not'' believe the GOP in the U.S. is racist, but David Duke considers himself a Republican (and every other Republican disavows him). Even the Swiss People's Party in my country (I am also a U.S. citizen) has some members who have said racist things. Just because parties have members like this does not necessarily mean that the entire party is racist or whatever. In the case of Höcke's speech, Petry (the party leader, as you know) condemned what he said, or at least criticized him.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Second, I know the mindset that the German have today. They are still ashamed for what they did during World War II, and they are still focused on trying to make restitution. Personally, I think it is good that they have repented, but they miss the fact that there are two extremes: one extreme is what the Nazis did, the other is being so ashamed bad things one did that they essentially hate their country. We see this with liberals in the United States. I think the German mindset is too far in the second extreme -- and no, I am anywhere close to being a racist or Nazi. Patriotism and nationalism can be very good things, as long as they are handled correctly and are not an excuse to persecute others. The German people, I think, are trying to extinguish them, and they have accused people, even those in the middle of those two extremes, as being Nazis.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Let me also make clear that I have not read much about Björn Höcke's speech, other than what you provided and what his English Wikipedia article states, so I cannot comment on his entire speech and his entire character. He may very well be what you say he is. However, what I read about his speech and about him actually seems reasonable. Many peoples all over the world have done many evil things -- slavery in the U.S. and the other European colonies, the Islamic slave trade, religious persecution in Rome and the communist nations, the several genocides in history, etc. However, it is not constructive for cultures to focus on these events. It is good to remember them and repent of them, but not to obsess about them. There is much more to German history than World War II, just as there is more to U.S. history than slavery. Why can't we build monuments celebrating the positive things about our cultures and our people? It is cultural suicide not to do so. While we should not forget the bad events, we should focus on the good events and remain proud as a people in order to remain strong. This seems to me what Höcke is getting at. Am I wrong?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Reading his Wikipedia article, I came accross this quote: &amp;quot;Die Syrer, die zu uns kommen, haben immer noch Syrien. Wenn wir – durch die Syrer – unser Deutschland verloren haben, dann haben wir keine Heimat mehr.&amp;quot; I can see how in Germany this is very controversial, but I think in most other countries, this is quite reasonable. It may not be a bad thing if Syrians come, but it would mean that the German people would be in danger of disappearing, at least in a cultural sense. If someone values this (as most people of all ethnicies and nationalities do -- just ask the Poles or Hungarians), they will strongly oppose immigration.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Am I wrong in what I am saying? Am I misrepresenting Höcke? I would appreciate some dialogue. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:18, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::No, you aren't wrong and I too was never questioning that the &amp;quot;eternal fault&amp;quot; (electing Hitler/WW2) which is propagated by German liberals is bullshit. I only mean that Höcke was not only saying that, but he also clearly favorized the Holocaust by calling for an &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot; and calling the Holocaust monument a &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot;. This speech was much criticized by Jewish organizations in Germany and Höcke was forbidden to visit Concentration Camp Memorials. He's not a single exemption, but there are unfortunately already lots of neo-Nazis or neo-Nazi sympathizers in the AfD who are all defending Höcke's speech, including Spitzenkandidat Alexander Gauland. Party leader Petry was forced by them not to participate. These (real) neo-Nazis are system agents who are overrunning the AfD like they did decades ago with the NPD in order to make these parties uneligible by conservative voters. But of course many liberals call all ''real'' conservatives &amp;quot;neo-Nazis&amp;quot; which there is nonsense. But Höcke is really a neo-Nazi and anti-semite and should be excluded together with his inner-party defenders. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 14:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It seems to me that you are making a jump from noting what Höcke is saying to calling him a neo-Nazi. A lot of what he is saying seems reasonable, even if it is better that he watches what he says more closely, and I don't see how these comments make them neo-Nazis (I do see, however, how such comments are far outside the current German mainstream, and that they make such parties less attractive to moderate Germans). It seems to me that Höcke is a nationalist who is angry at the culture of shame in his country, which is probably the reason why it is being flooded with immigrants and weakened by the EU. Many conservatives said silly things (that sounded extremely racist) about Obama when he was U.S. President, even though those people would have voted for conservative blacks (Ben Carson, Allen West, Herman Cain) or Hispanics (Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz) in a heartbeat. Could it be that this is what Höcke is doing?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Sorry about the term &amp;quot;b***&amp;quot; but I'm as angry as you about the &amp;quot;eternal fault&amp;quot; dogma. And you are completely right with most (including the Jews being too liberal in Europe), but in my opinion the quote &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot; is like he wanted to say &amp;quot;The Holocaust was nothing bad&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;not so bad&amp;quot; or so. Like it would be Holocaust relativation. Maybe Höcke really didn't mean anything bad in his speech but then he's simply uncaring of what he says because he damages his party with such unclear statements. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 16:34, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::As we disagree on his speech (even though I do think your last comment was very reasonable), I chose to move the info to another place in the article and re-word it. If you have any problems with how I re-worded it, we can discuss that as well. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Björn Höcke said in whole this: &amp;quot;Wir Deutschen – und ich rede jetzt nicht von euch Patrioten, die sich hier heute versammelt haben – wir Deutschen, also unser Volk, sind das einzige Volk der Welt, das sich ein Denkmal der Schande in das Herz seiner Hauptstadt gepflanzt hat.&amp;quot; This means, not German patriots but the other Germans (liberals e.g.) have founded the Holocaust monument which he calls a Denkmal der Schande. Which means, according to him true German patriots wouldn't have built the Holocaust monument, which can be interpreted as he's pro-Holocaust. The same interpretation is open in his other quote &amp;quot;Wir brauchen eine erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot;. Maybe he didn't want to relativate the Holocaust but he should watch out what he says, especially if his party wants to enter a coalition. A coalition with establishment parties wouldn't be bad as long as the AfD maintains its goals and gets many of them into a government program. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 01:37, 2 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi - not sure why you changed my edits on the BREXIT page - I tried to provide an accurate account of what is happening and what is being reported by many news outlets --unsigned comment by HORSEMAN&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello &amp;quot;HORSEMAN&amp;quot;, I removed the info about the potential referendums because this was just speculation that died down. I also thought that some of your wording (such as the &amp;quot;full complexity and impacts of BREXIT become apparent&amp;quot; and by removing the mention of the EU being obstructionist) seemed to insert a left-of-center bias into the article. CP is a conservative encyclopedia, and we align firmly with Brexit and Euroskepticism. However, I will see if I can re-add some of your wording. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:31, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Another problem is that for the part about the proposed payments and EU citizen rights, you did not provide sources. The existing info already had a source, and you changed the info while keeping the source. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:35, 10 August 2017 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
:::Hi Again, would this link suffice http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-17-2001_en.htm It is the definitive statement from the EU negotiating team and sets out the negotiating agenda. Thanks Horseman&lt;br /&gt;
::::You can definitely cite the source, but do you also have third party sources as well? I see nothing in the EU source about the monetary amount of the settlement. We prefer sources with conservative editorial stances. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:57, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Is this syitable, I don't pay for Telegraph articles so only have this link. Thanks Horseman&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The Telegraph is one of numerous conservative news organizations. Besides, their non-commentary articles are free for viewing. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Margaret Sanger]] revision that you undid==&lt;br /&gt;
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:You could write &amp;quot;Planned Parenthood eventually expanded to support the form of murder known as abortion.&amp;quot; Something like that. We should keep the wording encyclopedic, as this is not a blog or anything like that. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 18 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry about that, I wasn't aware you had already blocked TimJim when I blocked him, so I reset the block length back to that of your original block. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 22:45, 19 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi I'd be happy to move those articles you are requesting, but as you know, I cannot avoid the creation of redirects.  Let me know if you want this, but hopefully you can get it done the right way. It's also probably easier to ask for a move than a delete. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:43, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I appreciate your offer, David, but I think it would be better if I keep it simple for Andy, rather than explain that the articles were moved and that he only has to delete the redirect -- having one person do it is more simple. Thanks anyway! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:46, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed...okay.  I didn't want to cut in and disrupt things, but just thought I'd offer.  Cheers! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:49, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I do appreciate your offer, David. Thanks! It looks like Andy just moved the articles. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:50, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You can email me at wirepaladin36@gmail.com [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:22, 26 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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1990s guy, I just want to verify u could read the Theistic ev. entry and 1994 film clip on my user talk.  any comments?&lt;br /&gt;
:I could watch it, but would you please explain what it's about in a little more detail? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:55, 11 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Maybe I was too pessimistic. Good news ==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Why [[Democrats]] Should Be''' Losing Sleep Over Generation Z.[https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/]&lt;br /&gt;
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Bye for now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:47, 5 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for the article. Bye for now. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:48, 5 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== File comparison tool ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did Cons ever get back to you with the comparison tool?  I'm curious about it, and whether it does a good job of checking for copied content.  The problems that it appears to solve are different from the problems of comparison tools used in software development.  I'm curious about whether it uses line hashing, sentence hashing, word group hashing, and things like that.  I'd like to try it out, and not just at CP.  In fact, probably not at all for CP; I'm not interested in who plagiarizes what at CP, though, when I am, I use other techniques to catch people.  I'm just curious as to whether those other techniques have been automated.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I can assure you that the tool exists. I have not tried it yet and thus cannot answer your question. I have no reason to try it as JDano's essays were deleted, so I recommend that you ask Conservative directly these things. Maybe he will share it with you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:23, 12 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Great!!  I'm still very much interested in it.  Is it a &amp;quot;cloud app&amp;quot;?  Is it a downloadable app that I can run locally on my own computer?  Can you send me a URL?&lt;br /&gt;
::By the way, the standard wiki comparison of your last edit to the [[Guy Verhofstadt]] article, just as a random example, shows how bad text comparers can be.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 17:40, 13 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You are going to have to ask Conservative for the details of the tool -- he told me not to give it away to anyone, and while I personally have no problem with sharing it with you, I shouldn't go against what he said. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:43, 13 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, this is really weird.  Cons seems to be trying to censor the internet itself, hiding the location of this tool.  And he seems to think that only you can be trusted with it.  He said &amp;quot;I will share this tool with 1990sguy [...] so he can evaluate your [JDano's] efforts in an objective way.&amp;quot;  I of course took this as a challenge.  A Google search for &amp;quot;similar page checker tool&amp;quot; gets a number of hits.  Ignoring the ones that cost a lot of money, and those that attempt to check a given page against the entire internet, narrowed it down to a few.  This one: [https://www.duplichecker.com/similar-page-checker.php] seems to be the right thing.  It's a &amp;quot;cloud app&amp;quot; rather than an installable program, but I can put up with that.  It has the same appearance&amp;amp;mdash;color and layout&amp;amp;mdash;as the screenshot that Cons posted and removed.  I ran it on the versions of this page before and after your recent reply to me, and it said they were 100% the same.  I'm not particularly happy about that, but the additional text was only about 0.3 percent of the total, so I suppose I can accept that.  Then I ran it on versions that differ in length by 10% (the 100K version and the 110K version.)  It said they were 98% similar.  Not good.  But I still might find it to be a useful tool.  There are pages not relating to JDano that could benefit from such an analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Getting help==&lt;br /&gt;
I am trying to fix the stuff on the Corporate bullies page.  Am still learning my way around on how to use things.   Think I am starting to get it though.   The Georgia 2016 stuff has a lot of info and I am in the process of editing it, though it's going to take a while (at least 20 or more minutes.  I'm trying though.  (BTW, if I wasn't supposed to edit here, sorry.  I don't know how to reply to your remark otherwise.) [[User:PatriotMongoose|PatriotMongoose]] ([[User talk:PatriotMongoose|talk]]) 22:31, 15 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's OK to edit here. I recommend that you read CP's guidelines, and probably more importantly, that you read [[Help:How to edit a website like Conservapedia]]. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:34, 15 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fabulous block and reverts==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fabulous block and reverts this afternoon!!!!  Well done!!!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:51, 21 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks, Andy! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:52, 21 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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User: JohnZ fails to recognize that my interest to be a referee to protect a marginal online sparring partner (whose greatest achievement was his dogged stubbornness to ignore facts/evidence)  was largely protected by his edits to main space articles and my desire for an online sparring partner. &lt;br /&gt;
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His rudeness to other editors and his desire to barely skate by with his main space edits certainly did not help matters. In addition, given the [[decline of the atheist movement]] and it now being a hopeless cause destined to ever increasing irrelevance, my desire for an atheist online sparring partner is non-existent at this point given my current/future priorities. &lt;br /&gt;
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He would also have to pledge to refrain from hurling insults to other editors (idiot, etc.). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:01, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hopefully he'll do it. We've given him these opportunities before and he rejected them. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:18, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Secondly, ardent secular leftists generally always double down regardless of any contrary facts/evidence presented to them. Of course, you never know what is going to happen. The Apostle Paul went from being one of Christianity's chief opponents to being its greatest champion. He will just need to be open minded. &lt;br /&gt;
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::It is very widely recognized that there is and has been religious persecution in communist China and that there was anti-religious propaganda in the former Soviet Union. So I am giving him ample opportunity to show that he is not a close-minded individual given to hurling insults. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:31, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would say no to this for a couple reasons. The first is his blatant disrespect of everyone here, and he has shown that multiple times. The gist of it is a pretense of superiority over us, as if it is mandatory that we listen to him; he stated a short time ago that some of us are idiots for not engaging him in conversation. Which I might add is his kind of conversation. &lt;br /&gt;
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The second reason is that he's a leftist brand of liberal from Great Britain, which means we cannot change his way of thinking whatsoever. Unfortunately for someone who is that close-minded he is going to go into lock-step with every other like-minded individual in his country, which would mean the loss of the United Kingdom as a political entity within a few years time. In his case, he is more concerned with picking a fight with the users of a small American conservative website then he is with what he and his kind are allowing to happen in Britain, namely the Islamic takeover. As a leftist, he probably feels he can get along with them in the name of diversity and multiculturalism, but when all is said and done he will either be forced on his hands and knees with his butt high in the air, or he'll have his head chopped off.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:Karajou, if you look at my comment to his talk page, you will see that I am giving him an opportunity to show that he can be open-minded and reasonable by writing on two topics related to atheistic communism persecution of Christians/religious (namely [[Christian persecution in communist China]] and [[Anti-religious propaganda in the Soviet Union]]) via two quality articles of at least 2,000 words.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:38, 4 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anti-Christian bias in Wikipedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello 1990'sguy. Am I being hypersensitive or is Wikipedia's anti-Christian bias increasing?  For example, the recent dispute about content at Answers in Genesis.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAnswers_in_Genesis&amp;amp;type=revision&amp;amp;diff=810473662&amp;amp;oldid=810471171] I see also that User:Synthetic Woolly Mammoth[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Synthetic_Woolly_Mammoth] has just been blocked, allegedly for being a sockpuppet of Biscuittin, but more likely because he has been speaking up in support of some Christian editors. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 05:27, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I know another editor who has extensively edited topics related to Christianity and atheism on WP, and he told me that the ati-Christian bias on the site was much worse back around 2012. The militant atheists don't have as much power as they did back then. However, the anti-Christian bias obviously is still very bad, especially on YEC topics, which I have been dealing with for years already. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:20, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Block length ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your alert block of new user &amp;quot;CPishilarious&amp;quot;, but I'm going to change the block duration from 2 years to 1 month.  Long blocks are disfavored on wikis because they block the IP address as well as the user.  The IP address could be a library or other general access IP address, or the user could move or be a college student, or the user could have a change of heart.  But thanks again for your quick action.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:11, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK, and you're welcome. I have seen blocked vandals come back with their same accounts after their blocks expire, so I wanted to protect against that. But I will shorten blocks like these in the future. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:54, 21 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks so much for your alert block this morning, but again the block duration is too long.  Another user could be trying to use that same IP address within a few months, or the user himself could have a change of heart.  I'll shorten it to 4 months.  Thanks!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:25, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Andy, it feels like I'm the only editor you're messaging about block length, ''even though my blocks are much shorter than most other editors.'' For example, just yesterday, I blocked two accounts for six months for having a silly username and for (relatively) non-serious vandalism, but shortly later, DMorris reset the blocks for 5 years. See here: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Bernieman][http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Hillary_clinton] If you're going (for good reason) to message me for my blocks, please do the same for the other editors who prefer even longer blocks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:33, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But yes, I will still shorten my blocks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:36, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggested article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is an article suggestion:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Donald Trump and evangelicals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there would be public interest in such an article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:20, 9 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks. If I get time, I will start this article. I will add it to my list of articles to create. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:16, 9 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two things ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For one, why do you not have email enabled? Secondly, consider longer blocks for these obviously malicious accounts. You can block an account for infinity and the autoblock on the IP still only lasts 24 hours. There is no reason for these sleeper accounts to come back to life three months later. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 16:19, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In his defense, he was doing longer blocks until [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length|Andy started asking him not too]], then [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length_2|reminded him again]]. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:25, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yes, for crying out loud, why am I the only one being criticized for my block lengths? If I make my block lengths long, Andy posts on my talk page, and if I make my block lengths shorter, DMorris posts on my talk page.&lt;br /&gt;
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::DMorris, please talk to Andy about this. I will continue making my blocks on the shorter side until your differing opinions are sorted out.&lt;br /&gt;
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::About my email, I have my email address posted on my user page. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:46, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Articles of the year: 2017 - your article is being featured on the main page (left side) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Donald Trump achievements]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[European migrant crisis]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheists and genetic mutations]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Keep up the good work.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:12, 24 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nationalism v Globalism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I went ahead and added a link to the Gardner article on the Nationalism v Globalism article for you.  I figured since we were referencing it, it would be good to see the original article too.--[[User:Whizkid|Whizkid]] ([[User talk:Whizkid|talk]]) 23:52, 7 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! I already saw and added it to other articles where I mentioned Gardner. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:53, 7 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Homeschooling==&lt;br /&gt;
I deleted the paragraph on Texas requirements (which I originally added) since it was duplicative of the information I added from HSLDA (which covers all 50 states) regarding state requirements.  I left the New Hampshire one since it involved a court imposing its will on a family in violation of state law.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm glad you liked my original work, but after finding something better and covering more than just one state, I amended my original work.  Though after your comments, I revised it to explain that another state court (Texas) made homeschooling far easier than before.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 17:22, 29 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:27, 29 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deep State==&lt;br /&gt;
I will agree with your removal of the word &amp;quot;theory&amp;quot;, but I did add the phrase &amp;quot;(or are believed to control)&amp;quot; because there are many conservative Christians who are not totally convinced that the deep state really exists.  I believe my edits will be a happy medium between those who hold to the deep state view and those who do not. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 15:11, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I kept most of your &amp;quot;is believed/considered&amp;quot; wording (except for the first sentence, which is unnecessary as the first sentence already makes clear that &amp;quot;deep state&amp;quot; is a term and not necessarily reality. I found most of your other changes to be too wordy and unnecessary, so I reverted some of it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:04, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I looked at your revisions and all you did was revert to your original article, with a few minor edits to try to convince me that you really took my suggestions into consideration.  Basically what you did to the article is like putting wood filler and new paint on a house with termite rot.  I've dealt with folks like you over on &amp;quot;the other site&amp;quot;, who think that once they write an article, it's perfect and can't accept any changes to it.  I'm not going to waste time with this one any more; clearly you're trying to espouse tinfoil hat conspiracy theory under the guise of &amp;quot;Christian conservatism&amp;quot;.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:22, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Much of your changes involved inserting parenthetical notes, which I think made the article more bloated than it had to be. The &amp;quot;or are believed to control&amp;quot; phrase in the first sentence was simply unnecessary and overemphasized your disbelief in the deep state. The part about Wall Street was cited to a good research article, so I don't think we need the &amp;quot;is believed&amp;quot; language for that. But I will still see if I can incorporate more of your edits.&lt;br /&gt;
:::About the existence of the deep state, it and the drive for one-world government are things that should be common and uncontroversial knowledge -- but people (both supporters and detractors) &amp;quot;conspiracize&amp;quot; these things and that's how accusations of me wearing a tinfoil hat come about. Look at the evidence -- most of our society (except theologically conservative Christians, most of them probably being premillennialist) accept the Idea of Progress, adopted during the Enlightenment Era. They believe that humanity is progressing for the better, and that this will lead to a one-world utopia with world peace and freedom for humanity (read Kant, for example). Thus, they believe that national identity, subsidiarity, and national sovereignty are growing useless and antiquated and actually are impediments to this utopia. This flows into their policies -- advancing international organizations, taking away national sovereignty, etc. As for the deep state, just look at the whole DOJ/FBI stuff going on right now, or the fact that Republicans and Democrats hire administration personnel from the same group of organizations -- CFR, Trilateral, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
:::The garbage that there is some secret conspiracy by liberals to take over the world, that their motives are malevolent, that they want to do evil, that this is a short-term project, and that the Illuminati is involved with all this -- this is all garbage perfectly fit for &amp;quot;the other site&amp;quot;. In reality, the drive for a one-world utopia is one of the fundamental philosophical views in our culture, and liberals openly see it as natural/normal/benign (and they're in it for the long haul). --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:04, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggested Name Change for [[Christmas and Easter Catholic]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
I propose changing this to &amp;quot;Christmas and Easter Christian&amp;quot;, since the phenomenon of persons attending church on those days is by no means limited to Catholics. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 16:17, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I disagree. I recommend that a separate article entitled &amp;quot;Christmas and Easter Christian&amp;quot; be created -- C&amp;amp;E Catholicism is a notable concept on its own right, enough to have its own article. I think an article on C&amp;amp;E Christianity in general would be a good addition. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:07, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::What's the difference?  Both are the same phenomenon -- &amp;quot;so-called&amp;quot; Christian believers who attend only during those two holidays (or weddings and funerals).  The current article is fine, it just needs to be revised to not pick on one branch of Christianity.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:17, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I've heard Roman Catholics specifically mentioned much more than other Christians when hearing about this &amp;quot;phenomenon.&amp;quot; But I will ask another editor of his opinion on this. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:32, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Campaign promises==&lt;br /&gt;
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The thought occurred to me that Wikipedia does not normally catalog campaign promises.(It never has, that I have seen)  Elections there follow a formula of &amp;quot;what did they actually do after getting elected&amp;quot; and election results - which is both boring and completely useless, because we have a big problem with people running for office one way and then governing another way.  This leaves a glaring hole of accountability with all of our politicians and it also offers us an opportunity to distinguish ourselves from Wikipedia.  What do you think about this?  I made a few changes [[Bruce Rauner|here]] as an example start.  [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 15:00, 4 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think your suggestion is a great idea -- we have too many politicians who make really great promises during election campaigns, but they later act like they never even made those promises. When Rauner and his GOP primary opponent (Jeanne Ives) sat down with the ''Chicago Tribune'' editorial board a few days ago, Rauner said that he never promised he would veto a major pro-abortion bill that he ultimately signed (he actually explicitly promised he would multiple times).[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/30/jeanne-ives-crushes-gop-gov-bruce-rauner-illinois-candidates-meet-first-time/][http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/31/conservative-jeanne-ives-rips-il-gov-bruce-rauner-abortion-flip-flop/]&lt;br /&gt;
:I can also think of Sen. Thom Tillis of NC who campaigned against amnesty in 2014 and is now advocating for a &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot; amnesty bill (though it's inferior to the Goodlatte bill).&lt;br /&gt;
:I support your suggestion. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 4 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== FPÖ ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I just wanted to ask you why you have removed [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Freedom_Party_of_Austria&amp;amp;diff=1403167&amp;amp;oldid=1403166 my entry] on the article of the Freedom Party of Austria. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreisky%E2%80%93Peter%E2%80%93Wiesenthal_affair Kreisky–Peter–Wiesenthal affair] is an important event in the history of this party that should not be discreeted.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 09:41, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:First off, the info was inserted right in the middle of a paragraph discussing the FPO's ideological development and alliance with the SPO. Your info was out of place.&lt;br /&gt;
:Second, the info was unduly wordy. I am sick of seeing the media and leftists do everything in their power to tie right-wing conservative parties like the FPO to Nazi Germany, such as by unduly emphasizing those aspects of the parties and calling them &amp;quot;far-right&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;extreme right&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;ultra-right&amp;quot;, etc. By American conservative standards, these parties are actually quite moderate, and for those of us who realize that Nazism is a vastly overrated threat (placed alongside climate change by the Left), such parties have clearly moved away from their pasts.&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't want our articles to accept the left-wing narratives of these right-wing populist parties. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:50, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, all the informations I have put in the article were confirmed with trustworthy sources. [[Simon Wiesenthal]] who accused the FPÖ leader Friedrich Peter of being part in a unit which committed massacres against jews, was himself a Conservative. Wiesenthal supported the (at that time very conservative) Austrian People's Party. So it is not easy to label his accusations as &amp;quot;left-wing narratives&amp;quot;. I am also pretty sure that the Conservative government of Israel does not spread &amp;quot;left-wing propaganda&amp;quot; if they criticize the party for its charged history. Instead of simply removing facts from the article, you might emphasize how the FPÖ moved away from its past.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 10:01, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Israel is a Jewish state, so issues related to the Holocaust are sensitive to them. But as much as I support Israel and its right-wing government, Israel's position toward the FPO is irrational, and they are unduly obsessed with Nazism like Western Europe is. Israel's opinion on the FPO means very little because of the context -- it's easy to offend Israel on matters like this.&lt;br /&gt;
:::About Wiesenthal, I don't know anything about him, but him supporting the OVP does not mean much to me. If the party were &amp;quot;very conservative&amp;quot;, why did it support the EU, Maastricht Treaty, Schengen Agreement, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
:::And yes, these are the narratives promoted by the Left, the establishment, and the media. These are the same people who were comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler during the election campaign and who tried to smear Breitbart News as anti-Semite (despite loads of evidence to the contrary), among many other cases. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:17, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Just because these &amp;quot;narratives&amp;quot; are promoted by the Left it does not mean that they are wrong. I can ensure you that Simon Wiesenthal was never a supporter of left-wing policies. As I already told you it would be better to emphasize the current measures by Strache to reappraise the controversial history of this party instead of denying it.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 11:20, 8 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They're wrong -- they overemphasize every small and petty incident related to parties like the FPO that allude to Nazi Germany. Their point in doing so is to make it seem like that if we elect these people/parties into power (including Donald Trump), we'll be repeating 1933 all over again and will usher in the end of freedom in Europe -- never mind that Germany is still enforcing the Nazi ban on homeschooling, or that many Western European countries have free speech restrictions even on topics like Islam and homosexuality, or etc. Conservapedia will not go along with the media -- we acknowledge that parties like the FPO are conservative and/or right-wing (not &amp;quot;far-right&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;neo-Nazi&amp;quot;) and the best choice in order to protect/expand freedom and protect European culture/patriotism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:58, 8 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can you create this article: [[Donald Trump's major achievements]]? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:39, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This seems like a good idea, and I will do it. I won't do it immediately, since I have a lot of other things to do, but I will create it soon. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:54, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK. Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:18, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm very sorry about the article. If it make you feel like a advertisement. However, everything that is state is true. Thank you for your understanding. Pleased assist by make any corrections. That you think is necessary. When your time is most convenient. &lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for your message, but the article I deleted is not acceptable for Conservapedia. There is nothing I can do to change that, unless you receive coverage from good sources (Breitbart, Fox, etc.). I'm keeping the other article for now, since it's one I can imagine keeping, but I'm discussing it with other editors to see what to ultimately do about it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:00, 21 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you add some categories to my page please? [[User:Willow Smith|Willow Smith]] ([[User talk:Willow Smith|talk]]) 11:26, 22 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response to your complaints==&lt;br /&gt;
From what appears EVERY time someone creates a new page or edits an existing one:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Please note that all contributions to Conservapedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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If the real rule is &amp;quot;any contributions by Conservapedia administrators -- no matter how good, bad, or ugly they may be -- are fixed for all time and never to be altered&amp;quot;, then make that the rule.  But don't invite someone to improve things, then complain because they do.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 10:26, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Your bolding does not improve things. Also, nobody reverted your turning pages into redirects -- it's just a good idea to let people know before making major unilateral changes. If your complaint is that I'm messaging you about these things, then you have no real complaint at all. If you make edits here, you (like I was, and still am to an extent) are bound to be messaged about these things, which other editors do with the intention of improving others' editing. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:37, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Additionally, administrators and editors alike must watch the activity of others, especially newer editors.  A few people have the hobby of trying to vandalize CP in any way possible, so excuse us if we sound cynical or obstinate, but some &amp;quot;new users&amp;quot; are actually just the same vandals as always.  Since we don't really know you yet, we do our best to assume good intent, but can't afford to ignore what seems to be odd behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm sure you'll do fine, if you just listen to the recommendations of others and keep improving content.  Thank you for your efforts, and for understanding! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:16, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thank you for the intro==&lt;br /&gt;
Just wanted to say thank you for the welcome!  PS--Do you know what an eagle does when a storm approaches?  [[User:Bcarlin|Bcarlin]] ([[User talk:Bcarlin|talk]]) 20:34, 21 March 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Double standard article is now unprotected ==&lt;br /&gt;
1990sguy, I unprotected the [[Double standard]] article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:16, 3 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:43, 3 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Regarding the Whale article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I would like to know what caused you to revert my edits to the Whale article, and what I could do in the future to avoid this.--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:23, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:First off, I did not revert everything -- not even close. I reverted what appeared to be unnecessary wordiness on your part, along with your insertion of evolutionist-favored terms (&amp;quot;evolutionary biologists&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;evolutionists&amp;quot;--believe it or not, but people who believe in a young Earth can be evolutionary biologists too). If you keep your wording as concise as possible and if you choose your wording while keeping in mind that this is a conservative-Christian encyclopedia (thus, using terms favored by conservatives and Christians), then you won't be reverted. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:10, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, thanks for letting me know. I'll keep that in mind. I think I was correct about Darwin's views, though - could I reinstate that part?--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:23, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Fine, but only if you change that part. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:27, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Done. Thank you!--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:40, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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		<title>Whale</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cetacean: Further fine-tuning of Darwin's views on whales and bears&lt;/p&gt;
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'''Whales''' are marine mammals of the order [[Cetacea]], and a clear [[counterexample to the Theory of Evolution]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Description ==&lt;br /&gt;
Whales are separated into the toothed whales, ''Odontocetes'' (which includes [[dolphin]]s, [[porpoise]]s, [[narwhal]]s, beaked whales and [[sperm whale]]s), and the whalebone, or baleen, whales, also called ''Mysticetes''. The latter are mostly very large, which, instead of teeth, have baleen (whalebone) to filter small prey from the water; they are what people generally think of when the word whale is used. The whalebone whales include the rorquals - the [[blue whale]], fin whale, sei whale, Bryde's whale, [[minke whale]], and humpback whale; the [[grey whale]]; and the various [[right whale]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although whales are famed for the massive size reached by some species, such as the blue whale (the largest animal to ever live), others are relatively small, like the pygmy right whale which grows to about 20 feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/PygmyRightWhale.htm] American Cetacean Society website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Though whales have many traits in common with fish (including fins and tails) they are [[classification system|classified]] as [[mammal]]s under the [[Linnaean taxonomy]] classification system because they breathe air and lactate. Whales have a number of remarkable features including:&lt;br /&gt;
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* they decide when to breathe, rather than breathing unconsciously&lt;br /&gt;
* they sleep 8 hours a day, yet need to be conscious to breathe&lt;br /&gt;
* they can communicate with each other by making remarkably loud noises&lt;br /&gt;
* these extraordinary noises can travel for miles underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* the females nurse their calves while swimming underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* the males have a unique cooling system for their internal reproductive organs, involving the circulation of cooled blood from the extremities directly around the [[testes]] before returning to the [[heart]]&lt;br /&gt;
* whales, along with humans and horses, are some of the few mammal species that do not possess [[baculum]] (penile bone)&lt;br /&gt;
* mysticetes have two blow-holes, while odontocetes only have one&lt;br /&gt;
* the blow-holes pass air above water, yet resist intense pressure underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* they have massive brains, much larger than the brains of other mammals&lt;br /&gt;
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== Taxonomy ==&lt;br /&gt;
Two distinct kinds of whales exist worldwide: toothed whales of the suborder Odontoceti, and whalebone, or baleen, whales of the suborder Mysticeti.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Baleen whales===&lt;br /&gt;
Mysticeti includes thirteen species in six genera, all chiefly characterized by the presence of plates of baleen hanging from their upper jaws inside their mouths.  These plates are used to filter small animals such as krill, or small shoaling fish (herring or mackerel).  To accommodate the baleen, as well as to catch enormous schools of krill and fish, these whales have huge mouths; the baleen in the bowhead (''Balaena mysticetus'') for example is up to ten feet in length.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Suborder Mysticeti: Baleen whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Balaenidae: Right whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Balaena''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Bowhead, or Greenland right whale, ''Balaena mysticetus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Eubalaena''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::North Atlantic right whale, ''Eubalaena glacialis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::North Pacific right whale, ''Eubalaena japonica''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Southern right whale, ''Eubalaena australis''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Balaenopteridae: Rorquals'''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Balaenopterinae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Balaenoptera''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Antarctic minke whale, ''Balaenoptera bonaerensis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Common minke whale, ''Balaenoptera acutorostrata''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Bryde's whale, ''Balaenoptera brydei''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Blue whale, ''Balaenoptera musculus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Fin whale, ''Balaenoptera physalus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sei whale, ''Balaenoptera borealis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Megapterinae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Megaptera''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Humpback whale, ''Megaptera novaeangliae''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Eschrichtiidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Eschrichtius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gray whale, ''Eschrichtius robustus''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Neobalaenidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Caperea''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy right whale, ''Caperea marginata''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Toothed whales===&lt;br /&gt;
Odontoceti comprises twenty-six species in ten genera, excluding the smaller dolphins and porpoises.  All possess conical teeth in one form or another, with some bearing rudimentary teeth only.  Only one species (sperm whale, ''Physeter macrocephalus'') reaches lengths of over sixty feet; several beaked whales are rarely over thirty feet, while the remaining species reach lengths less than that.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Suborder Odontoceti: Toothed whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Monodontidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Delphinapterus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Beluga, ''Delphinapterus leucas''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Monodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Narwhal, ''Monodon monoceros''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Physeteridae: Sperm whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Physeter''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sperm whale, ''Physeter macrocephalus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Kogia''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Dwarf sperm whale, ''Kogia sima''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy sperm whale, ''Kogia breviceps''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Ziphidae: Beaked whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Berardius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Arnoux's beaked whale, ''Berardius arnuxii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Baird's beaked whale, ''Berardius bairdii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Hyperoodontidae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Hyperoodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Northern bottlenose whale, ''Hyperoodon ampullatus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Southern bottlenose whale, ''Hyperoodon planifrons''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Indopacetus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Indo-Pacific beaked whale, ''Indopacetus pacificus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Mesoplodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Andrews' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon bowdoini''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Blainville's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon densirostris''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gervais' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon europaeus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ginkgo-toothed beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon ginkgodens''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gray's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon grayi''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Hector's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon hectori''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Hubbs' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon carlhubbsi''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Perrin's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon perrini''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon peruvianus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sowerby's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon bidens''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Spade-toothed whale, ''Mesoplodon traversii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Stejneger's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon stejnegeri''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Strap-toothed whale, ''Mesoplodon layardii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::True's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon mirus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Tasmacetus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Shepherd's beaked whale, ''Tasmacetus shepherdi''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Ziphius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Cuvier's beaked whale, ''Ziphius cavirostris''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family ''Delphinidae'''''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family ''Phocoenidae'''''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Origins ==&lt;br /&gt;
The question of how whales and their relatives could have evolved from terrestrial [[mammal]]s has intrigued evolutionary biologists since [[Charles Darwin]]'s suggestion that they may have evolved from ancient mammals. He suggested that their development may have been started by something similar to a behavior observed in bears. &amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;In North America the black bear was seen . . . swimming for hours with widely open mouth, thus catching, like a whale, insects in the water. Even in so extreme a case as this, if the supply of insects were constant, and if better adapted competitors did not already exist in the country, I can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural selection, more and more aquatic in their structure and habits, with larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a whale.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Charles Darwin, [http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1228 Origin of species] 1st edition&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In more recent times, evolutionists have suggested that modern whales and their relatives arose from ancient [[Artiodactyla|artiodactyls]] (even-toed ungulates such as [[deer]] and [[hippopotamus|hippopotami]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/41080/molecular_clock_divergence_estimates_and_the_fossil_record_of_cetartiodactyla/index.html] Theodore, JM (2004) Molecular Clock Divergence Estimates And The Fossil Record Of Cetartiodactyla '' The Journal Of Paleontology'' '''78''':39-44&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
More specifically, they believe that whales evolved from Pakicetus through Aetiocetus, because of the similarities in their bone structure. For example, Pakicetus has nostrils at the front of its skull, Aetiocetus has nostrils in the middle of its skull, and the modern gray whale has nostrils at the top of its skull&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/lines_03]University of California, Berkeley, ''Understanding Evolution''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This kinship has been termed the whippo hypothesis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/pdfs/data/1999/15619/15619-10.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Evolutionary biologists estimate the last ancestor of whales and hippos lived about 25 million years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/lines/IAtransitional.shtml] UCLA Berkley Understanding Evolution for Teachers website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This theory of cetacean origins contrasts with the [[Young earth creationism|young earth creationist]] position that whales were [[creation|created]] about 6000 years ago, ''before'' land animals .&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sarfati, Jonathan [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3834/106/ Whale evolution?] ''Refuting Evolution'', Chapter 5.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Batten, Don, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1776 A whale of a tale?] ''Journal of Creation'' 8(1):2–3, April 1994.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Williams, Alexander, and Sarfati, Jonathan, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1862 Not at all like a whale], ''Creation'' 27(2):20–22, March 2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Whaling industry==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Bradford Icebound Whaling Ship.jpg|thumb|Bradford, Icebound Whaling Ship.]]&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Whaling]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Whales in literature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Bible ===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Bible quote|Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.''|book=Jonah|chap=1|verses=17|version=KJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The great fish that swallowed [[Jonah (prophet)|Jonah]] is often thought of as being a whale, although the translation of 'great fish' is not a precise designation of species but may indicate any physically large, ocean-going creature. The physical difficulty of having a human be swallowed by a whale and survive the intense pressure of diving, lack of air and acidic environment of the stomach, and the fact that the Bible says that God &amp;quot;prepared&amp;quot; the fish has led some to suggest the creature may be uniquely and specially prepared by [[God]] for the purpose. Alternatively, Jonah may have been simply protected by supernatural means.&lt;br /&gt;
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Whales are mentioned in three other places in the King James Version of the Bible:&lt;br /&gt;
* Genesis 1:21: &amp;quot;And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Job 7:12: &amp;quot;Am I a sea, or a whale, that thou settest a watch over me?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Ezekiel 32:2: &amp;quot;Son of man, take up a lamentation for Pharaoh king of Egypt, and say unto him, Thou art like a young lion of the nations, and thou art as a whale in the seas: and thou camest forth with thy rivers, and troubledst the waters with thy feet, and fouledst their rivers.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Fiction ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Arguably the most famous book about whales is [[Herman Melville]]'s ''[[Moby-Dick|Moby Dick]]'', about a whaling-ship captain obsessed with hunting down the sperm whale (Moby Dick) which had bitten off one of his legs.&lt;br /&gt;
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== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Orca]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dolphin]]&lt;br /&gt;
==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
* Carwardine, Mark. ''Whales &amp;amp; Dolphins'' (Smithsonian Handbooks) (2002) [http://www.amazon.com/Whales-Dolphins-Smithsonian-Handbooks-Carwardine/dp/0789489902/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1226789849&amp;amp;sr=1-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Creighton, Margaret S.  ''Rites and Passages: The Experience of American Whaling, 1830-1870.'' (1995). 233 pp.  [http://www.amazon.com/Rites-Passages-Experience-American-1830-1870/dp/0521484480/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1207603299&amp;amp;sr=8-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Dolin, Eric Jay. ''Leviathan: The History of Whaling in America'' (2007) 480 pp. [http://www.amazon.com/Leviathan-History-Eric-Jay-Dolin/dp/0393060578/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1207596886&amp;amp;sr=8-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Ellis, Richard.  ''Men and Whales.'' (1991). 542 pp.  &lt;br /&gt;
* Papastavrou, Vassili. ''Whale'' (DK Eyewitness Books) (2004) [http://www.amazon.com/Whale-Eyewitness-Books-Vassili-Papastavrou/dp/0756607396/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1226789849&amp;amp;sr=1-3 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Stoett, Peter J. ''The International Politics of Whaling'' (1997) [http://www.questia.com/read/57120862?title=The%20International%20Politics%20of%20Whaling online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
*Berta, Annalisa ''Return to the Sea: The Life and Evolutionary Times of Marine Mammals'' 2012 &lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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		<title>User talk:1990'sguy</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Cetacean: reinstate darwins beliefs and added signatures&lt;/p&gt;
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Thanks for adding your edits, hopefully you'll become a regular contributor.  If I can help you out with anything let me know.  [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 19:45, 27 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:49, 27 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Account promoted to skip the Captcha requirement.  Thanks for your enlightening edits to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 19:37, 28 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:45, 28 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations and welcome.  You should be aware that people who edit at both CP and WP with the same user name are sometimes harrassed at WP as a result. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:11, 29 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thank you for the welcome and thanks for the heads up! I've already received some heat on Wikipedia for taking some unpopular positions and opposing the bias there, so it will be nothing new for me. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 29 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw your helpful addition to the article on Murder of Seth Rich, so I thought I would visit your talk page. How long have you lasted on the WickedPedia? I would be surprised that you would last long there, as I have found the WickedPedia incredibly intolerant and censorious, a pseudo-aristocracy with dominating bullies, biased enough for me to consider it a candidate for the Big T award (T in the Calvinist TULIP); i.e, total depravity! LOL I don't think you can do much on Wikipedia without being part of a group of old boys or buddies who work together.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 19:26, 23 August 2016 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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:Did you mean my Wikipedia talk page? I have been editing Wikipedia for almost three years already. A big reason why I've lasted so long there is because many of the topics I edit are not particularly controversial. However, you are completely right in your description of Wikipedia. I have seen firsthand the massive (and very visible) intolerance and bias Wikipedia has against conservatives, Christians, and anything that contradicts secular and humanistic (pseudo)&amp;quot;scientific knowledge&amp;quot;. I could probably write a book about all my criticisms of Wikipedia. I have been able to do some good work (I was able to bring the article &amp;quot;Electoral history of Ronald Reagan&amp;quot; to official &amp;quot;Good Article&amp;quot; status, and I created a few articles), but on other articles, like the Murder of Seth Rich, we cannot have much confidence on the quality and neutrality of those articles. I do applaud you, Thunkful2, for your excellent work on &amp;quot;Murder of Seth Rich&amp;quot;. It's awesome that at least one person can accurately present this story! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:35, 23 August 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I meant right here, this talk page -- I visited it after seeing your good edit.  No, I haven't gone to your talk page on the WickedPedia.  Thanks for the complement.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 10:45, 24 August 2016 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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:OK, got it. And thanks for your complement. :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:50, 24 August 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== References from Wikipedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While it's not really plagiarism to copy a reference from WP, it just want to point out that you probably shouldn't do so unless you have read that source, and believe that it supports what is being said.  If you are reading the books you are referencing, that's fine--I just can't tell. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:33, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, that's a good point. I actually did not read those books, I just wanted to cite something so I wouldn't be adding unsourced info to the article. Should I remove those references anyway? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:36, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It is a good idea to find references to support unsourced statements, but it is a little deceptive to cite something you haven't read.  To be entirely beyond reproach, removal probably would be best.  At this point though, I honestly don't know if I'd bother.  In my opinion, it's up to you.  No one else has said anything, so it might be okay to leave them, I'm just not sure. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:51, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::OK. I will do my own research and find other sources that I can use instead. However, it's getting late, so I will deal with that tomorrow. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:58, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your account has been promoted to include blocking and overnight editing capability.  Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:30, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Congratulations! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:57, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well done!  [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 01:06, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks all! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:21, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Excellent!  you did good keeping an eye on that vandal yesterday. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 14:52, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Thanks, Progressingamerica, I appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:42, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Reading the WSJ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Typically, when I want to read a WSJ article that requires subscriber sign in is to Google the headline and access the web page from a search engine instead of directly.  Most of the time this requires a clean browser tab, sometimes it needs to be done in a different browser.  Rarely, it requires a cookie clearing.  Just thought that information may be of help.  This even works with articles that are years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a last resort, see if its in the internet archive.(though, most articles I don't want that bad to keep trying)  But they're all good procedures to know.  Sometimes works for other news sites too, besides WSJ. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 00:00, 10 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the tip! That's what I will do. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:32, 10 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your account has been promoted to include upload and rollback features.  Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations! Keep it up! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:31, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks David! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:43, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Move and unlock requests ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You can post your move and unlock requests to [[User talk:Karajou]]. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:30, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for the tip! It's getting late, so I will do that tomorrow. I appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:37, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You don't actually need any privileges to do a move. You can cut-and-paste from one lemma to another. For purposes of copyright law, the edit summaries must make it clear where the incoming material comes from. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 00:54, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Karajou blocked a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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People should not be judged in race on alleged sexuality. A proper critique of Karajou would be asking him about blocking a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor.--[[User:Rodgerr|Rodgerr]] ([[User talk:Rodgerr|talk]]) 19:04, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If you think you have been judged unfairly, you could have just emailed Karajou or webmaster@conservapedia.com (see [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Member Accounts]]). However, more than once, you decided to take the low route, calling him filthy, immature words [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Karajou&amp;amp;diff=1283494&amp;amp;oldid=1283491]. See [[Conservapedia:Avoid personal remarks]]. And why in the world did you do this? [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Coal_burning&amp;amp;curid=140922&amp;amp;diff=1283484&amp;amp;oldid=1283423] (for someone who apparently abhors Trump for the tape, your words seem just as bad) That, honestly, is shameful. I will note that the &amp;quot;Bringreaganback&amp;quot; account clearly violated [[Conservapedia:90/10 rule]]. Considering all this, it's quite clear you deserved the block. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:12, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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In response to your good question about entries on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]], currently there are about 112 featured entries there, which are &amp;quot;reshuffled&amp;quot; periodically.  Do you have any suggestions about how that &amp;quot;team&amp;quot; of entries be improved, with respect to insight, influence, popularity, interest level, educational value, etc.?  It's a terrific mix of topics now but there is always room for improvement, particularly as the issues and interest in certain topics by the public inevitably shifts over time.  Thanks much for any suggestions you may have.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:46, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:An example:  &amp;quot;[[Underrated Sports Stars]]&amp;quot; is a solid entry, but should probably be replaced on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]].  Do you have any favored, influential, insightful, potentially or already popular entry that you like, which you would recommend to replace it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:55, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I do have a few suggestions. [[Murder of Seth Rich]] is probably the best suggestion, as it is very detailed and well sourced. Also, the Wikipedia article of the murder has been the victim of leftist bias (two times, within a month, editors have tried to delete the article, and with that failing, the article appears to have been stripped of much detail) which our article covers well. Other suggestions that I have are the [[Ark Encounter]] (a popular and influential attraction, and one that has been the victim of atheist and evolutionary bias, which the article covers), and [[Larry McDonald]] (a true patriot who stayed true to his principles, and his article actually covers the theories on his possible survival). --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:22, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted again == &lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations, your account has been promoted again, so that you can edit protected articles, and protect and unprotect articles.  Very well done!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:05, 10 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow! Thank you very much, Mr. Schlafly! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:19, 10 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations!  I've had some problems with the &amp;quot;protect&amp;quot; privilege, but I hope it works for you! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:35, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks! I hope so too! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:15, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Congratulations on yet another promotion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Can't edit article==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi again, 1990'sguy, it's Ambassador. Is there any reason I can't edit the article on the [[Big Bang]]? To keep atheists from changing it, I suppose. If you have access to it, you might want to add the point about the Big Bang, due to planets and moons spinning backwards, contradicting the law of Conservation of angular momentum. Find out about it [http://www.creationwiki.org/Three_planets_and_several_moons_revolve_backwards_(Talk.Origins) here]. Thanks! [[User:Ambassador|Ambassador]] ([[User talk:Ambassador|talk]]) 19:56, 22 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, the article is protected probably because of atheist/secularist/liberal vandalism. Unfortunately, I cannot edit it myself as I do not have full admin capabilities. I recommend asking an admin ([http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&amp;amp;username=&amp;amp;group=sysop&amp;amp;limit=100 list]) to unlock the article or add the information you want added. Or, you can go to [[Talk:Main Page|the main talk page]] and add your request there, where more people can see it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:08, 22 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thank you! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello there, and thank you for editing the article on [[Islam and Christianity]]. --[[User:SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S|SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S]] ([[User talk:SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S|talk]]) 09:13, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No problem, and thank you for creating it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:14, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And also thank you, for your help - and tips! - on [[Jared Kushner]]. I'll try to remember the ref's and cat's in the future. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] ([[User talk:Ed Poor|talk]]) 21:49, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sounds great and you're welcome! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Geocentric page ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I added a bit on the talk page a while ago. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:15, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you mean on the section &amp;quot;Ptolemy's view of a stationary earth&amp;quot;? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry for the late reply but yes. It doesn't seemed to have created a new heading so I will add that now. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:11, 5 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I removed it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:21, 5 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This is a simple misunderstanding. Please be reasonable. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is [[User:Amorrow]]. I had to dirty myself by creating a sockpuppet because you cut off every last channel of communication. The issues:&lt;br /&gt;
# SSN of dead people are release by the government of the USA. I made it clear that my father is dead. His name was William Knight Morrow. You can find his name and SSN, for instance, at [http://sortedbybirthdate.com/pages/19311104.html this page]. It is public, not private.&lt;br /&gt;
# You could have removed that link and let it go at that. I do not require notification of such actions. I do not care about that link very much. I put it there simply as a convenience.&lt;br /&gt;
Is the matter resolved? If so, then please unblock me or let me know here what remains unresolved.--[[User:Amorrow2|Amorrow2]] ([[User talk:Amorrow2|talk]]) 20:44, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I am discussing the issue on [[User talk:DavidB4]]. You are welcome to join in. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:48, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are unblocked. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the ref [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Donald_Trump&amp;amp;oldid=1293435]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:34, 18 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. Always happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:15, 18 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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You're not telling me it's just a coincidence, are you? [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:44, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Seriously? It is extremely unlikely that this passage, which is about the Second Coming of Christ, has anything to do with Donald Trump. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Dang :( Thought I'd had my first ever conservative insight. Must be the morphine. [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:56, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think this has more to do with biblical [[hermeneutics]] than conservatism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:00, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Merry Christmas!  And have a happy New Year's Day. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:37, 24 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you very much, Conservative, and the same to you as well! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:43, 24 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I suggest doing the redirect in the opposite direction for two reasons.  First, it preserves the history and visits to the pre-existing entry.  Second, it leaves intact the &amp;quot;Saint&amp;quot; spelled out, which is a stronger and more effective title than the secularized abbreviation.  I'd be happy to change the direction of the redirect, if you agree.  Regardless, thanks for your efforts!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:01, 27 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes please, Mr. Schlafly, that would be great if you would move it. Just as long as the article shows up as being created by me on the &amp;quot;New Pages&amp;quot; feed. I didn't know that this article already existed, but I worked hard on it and I think that my article is of higher quality by any objective measure. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:39, 28 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==European immigration==&lt;br /&gt;
I was thinking of doing an article on the [[European immigration]] problem (don't want to call 'European immigration crisis', yet). Americans are woefully ignorant of what's happening in Europe, and we're looking at doing perhaps the biggest change in Immigration law since 1952. In Europe, whole new political parties have been spawned because of the establishment parties failure to deal with the problems. In 20 years, the German mi!itary may be majority Muslim which would impact the future of the NATO alliance. Better get started now in educating the American public on changing demographics and how this may affect America's role as a Superpower, assuming it still is by then. &lt;br /&gt;
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Would you care to collaborate? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Of course, I'll be happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Do you think we should add a subsection under UK about Brexit and to what extent that was motivated by immigration? Also, I'd like to include something about the Schengen Agreement. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:46, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Both of those are great ideas. The &amp;quot;freedom of movement&amp;quot; EU policy played a large part in the referendum and its aftermath. People are tired of unlimited immigration.&lt;br /&gt;
:::As for the Schengen area, people can go anywhere they want in Europe without worrying about border security (and before, it was quite tough crossing the border I've heard). The agreement is an essential part of the EU plan to reach full political unification. It really has nothing to do with economics. Also, criminals and terrorists can easily cross the border. The recent Berlin attacker was caught in Italy. He crossed at least two borders without being caught. Imagine if he tried doing that without the agreement. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:53, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Same as most of suspects in 1200 reported sexual assault cases New Years Eve in Cologne. Something like only 7 or 22 arrests have ever been made, while most of the other identified suspects are reported to have fled the country.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:06, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I created [[Social Security Death Index]]. After I add some ref's, I hope that we can revisit the notion of me declaring what my father's SSN is.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just to mention where I got this idea from, it is from the web site anusha.com . Sloan has lived an erratic and at times immoral life, but he is just below the level of genius in raw talent. I refer to him as an &amp;quot;accidental adventurer&amp;quot;. Please see thermo4thermo.org/sam_sloan.html for some of his life-adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
I am not promoting his lifestyle, but he is my publisher for my upcoming book. His web site is a mess. It has about 3000 pages but just a mess of cross-references. The home page is very, very long.  You can look at pages like www.anusha.com/pafc147.htm . He also has pages like www.anusha.com/uncles-p.htm . His memory is almost perfect. Near Total Recall. Anyway, I hope we can engage in dialog about my father's SSN.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 22:11, 3 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Hate crime==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear 1990'sguy, I am not trying to get into an edit war with you, but I believe that you are misreading the hate crime laws.  They do not address &amp;quot;hate speech,&amp;quot; just violence or other criminal acts against target groups that receive a lot of hate.  I suggest that you do further research, and I hope that you will come to the same conclusion. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 20:31, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, are you telling me that hate crime laws do not cover &amp;quot;hate speech&amp;quot;? Regardless, I think we should mention that slowly (but steadily) speaking out for biblical Christian principles (opposition to homosexual marriage, saying Islam is a false religion, etc.) is being seen as &amp;quot;hate speech&amp;quot; and vulnerable to being criminalized. See this recent story[https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/simon-turpin/2016/01/08/northern-ireland-pastor-not-guilty-criticising-islam/] and please note the recent attempts to censor Christian sermons in Houston (I don't know if other cities did the same). Censorship of Christian and conservative opinions is growing, and I could a few (but probably unrelated to hate crimes) examples. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:09, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, while you can keep you additions, would you please restore the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Hate_crime&amp;amp;curid=3861&amp;amp;diff=1298155&amp;amp;oldid=1298153 material you deleted in this edit] (particularly those three completely deleted paragraphs)? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:11, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thank you for fixing the dead link and finding an additional source.  You are exactly right. Hate crime and hate speech are completely different.  All Conservatives disapprove of speech codes, &amp;quot;safe spaces policy&amp;quot; and political correctness.  The First Amendment is clear that regulation of speech must be neutral as to the message.  The person(s) who wrote the [[Hate crime]] article years ago got a bit tangled up.  Liberals want hate speech codes, and Conservatives oppose them.  Both Liberals and Conservatives have voted to enact true hate crime laws to protect religious freedom and to address hate violence on the basis of race.  Some Conservatives argue that the list of hate targets in those laws should not include &amp;quot;sexual orientation,&amp;quot;  but that argument does not belong in a section discussing protecting religion.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I took out the two paragraphs because they were repetitive, out-of-place and not germaine.  Why not add them to [[Hate speech]]? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 21:39, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Thank you for clarifying and for moving the content. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:00, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You are welcome.  Our discussion here was a bit time delayed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 22:02, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
If you want to include the legislative history, it should explain which bill that was finally adopted that is being discussed and how the bill that was adopted differs from the earlier bills.  The people that worked on this article years ago were obviously opposed to a series of bills and were making arguments on why a bill would be bad.  Their narative is out of date.  We have a number of state and federal hate crime laws on the books and we need to describe what exists, give facts and statistics about how the laws work, and include some commentary on whether the law has been applied fairly.   If you want to expand the history section beyond the two sentences that I have explaining how the federal law expanded the role of the FBI, please do so.  But the fact that certain people sponsored bills that did not pass before a bill did pass is not helpful unless you explain what changes were made or how the early efforts illumniates our understanding of the bill that passed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:50, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:If these proposed bills became law, we should definitely include this (even if we word it differently). We should do this in order to inform the public about leftist laws and to show that they didn't always exist. Unfortunately, I am quite busy right now, so I cannot do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::1990sguy, these bills did '''not''' become law.  A similar bill later became law. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:10, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Not to sidetrack your guys discussion, but let me point out (cause the media hasn't) we have just witnessed something very rare and unusual in the US. Traditionally, because of state sovereignty, the states prosecute murder cases and federal government's role is restricted, for most of our history, to capital cases in the US military. In the 20th century federal crimes like murdering the president, or terrorism on federal property causing death ([[Timothy McVeigh]]), were added. This guy, [http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/12/us/dylann-roof-death-penalty-explainer/ Dylann Roof], has just been sentenced to death for violating peoples civil rights with a hate crime enhancement, and ''not for murder''. The federal government does not have the legal authority to try this as a murder case. In fact, Roof probably never will be tried for murder cause the State of South Carolina isn't gonna spend the time and money to do it after the feds are done. In my lifetime, I think this is only the fourth case like this I ever heard of, tho I'm sure there's been a few others. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:37, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Rob, this happened a lot in the 1960s. Civil rights workers would go South and were murdered and either the murder was not prosecuted or a local jury would acquit the accused.  The FBI would then investigate and the US DOJ would successfully prosecute for civil rights violations in Federal Court.  The question is whether there is enough of a commerce clause basis to allow for the passage of such federal crimes, and the courts have upheld them on the grounds that if the federal government did not prevent such intimidation, people would not feel safe crossing state lines.  Also, many states have suspended or abolished the death penalty, while it remains available in federal court.  State &amp;quot;sovereignty&amp;quot; is very limited and not ''actual'' sovereignty in the legal sense.  To me, this is a more interesting aspect of the Hate crime article than whether or not the definition should be expanded to include &amp;quot;gender identity.&amp;quot; [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:08, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'm not sure it happened &amp;quot;a lot&amp;quot;. There was the 'Mississippi Burning' case, where the local cops and others were charged with civil rights violations, but no one served more than a six year sentence. This is why &amp;quot;hate crime&amp;quot; legislation was added later, cause sentences were too light for a &amp;quot;civil rights violation resulting in death&amp;quot;. The problem in those days were all-white juries exonerating murder cases, so the feds invented a way they could prosecute killers. One guy was convicted in a state trial [http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/price&amp;amp;bowers/killen.htm 40 years later in 2005 of manslaughter,] but he wasn't the trigger man. No one has ever been charged with the actual killings.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Then there was Salt Lake City case of a civil rights violation resulting in death in 1978, but Utah was never part of the Confederacy, was not put under federal scrutiny in the Voting Rights Act, nor has a history of all-white jurries exonersting whites accused of murdering blacks. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::In the 90s Timothy McVeigh was the first person executed by the federal government since, like 1956.  But this was a terrorism charge resulting in death, not a civil rights violation, AFAIK. ([https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3azq6b/eli5how_timothy_mcveigh_only_got_convicted_of_8/ McVeigh was only charged with 8 counts of murder, although 168 were killed]). Since McVeigh, there's been maybe one or two other cases of people executed by the federal government.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Bottomline, the federal hate crime enhancement was added cause, while the feds proved they could get a conviction where the state failed to act, the penalty was too low. Since its inception, it's hard to find a single case that the law was used for what it was designed for. There is no evidence whatsoever that South Carolina would not prosecute Dylann Roos, or an all-white jury would have exonerated him if the feds failed to intrude. South Carolina has lost its right to govern itself, its sovereignty. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:32, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If this is true, then it definitely should be added. It would give yet another ignored example of massive governmental expansion and movement towards socialism. JDano, if the 2009 proposal did not become law, then what did the actual law consist of? If the bill that was listed on the article did not become law, then there is no point in including it. However, a legislative history of successful bills would be good. However, I am still quite busy, so I will not attempt to do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I will provide the details you seek when i get some time. You were in the top 5. --Jpatt 10:19, 16 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you for the reply Jpatt! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:40, 16 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am continuing the discussion on my talk page.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 10:39, 22 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Question==&lt;br /&gt;
What would be the best word to describe Eurosceptic's opponents? Eurocentric? Pan European? Some other? I don't like globalist in this context. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:42, 28 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I would say either &amp;quot;Europeanists,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Europhiles,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Euro-Federalists&amp;quot; are the best. They either seem to be the most used terms. Of those three, I would personally opt for the first. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:00, 28 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I've noticed you sometimes change blocks by other admins to increase the time or make in infinite.  I appreciate your intentions, but just thought I would point out a couple things.  Firstly, the blocking admin generally has the final say over the block they have imposed.  For example, if a person want to dispute the ban, they are to go to the blocking admin, and that admin decides whether to revoke the ban or not (as can be seen [[Conservapedia:Quick_reference#If_you_get_blocked|here]]).  Since you are not revoking a block, it's probably not as big of an issue, but it still seems to be proper etiquette. Of course, full admins have authority over assistants such as you and I, so they have the right to direct revise of revoke blocks we make.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Secondly, While it makes good sense to block those people forever, it doesn't really work that way.  A ban applies to the username, and the IP from which they edited if the option is selected--nothing more.  Vandals almost always use servers to redirect their connection, however, so that their true IP is never seen by CP.  This means that when we block those users, we are really just blocking the server they were using.  This is a good thing too, but the problem is that these servers are usually assigned new IPs periodically, so the block no longer applies--now the blocked IP is unassigned.  Since most people in the western world still use IPv4, there are not that many spare IP addresses, so the IP is soon assigned to someone else. Now some innocent person is using an IP which for all eternity has been blocked on CP.  They probably will never even know, but if we set infinite blocks enough, the chances of that happening regularly increase continuously.  I know some people here do use infinite block regularly, but in my opinion its a logistical problem.  This is why I almost always set a time limit, or block only the username infinitely, and leave the IP unblocked (which I prefer not to do).&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your ongoing efforts! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:05, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yikes, I should have thought of that. The thought of indefinitely blocking innocent people from CP certainly is not a good thing. If you haven't reverted by block change, feel free to undo it. I'm too busy right now to do it myself. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:11, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The chances of that happening from a couple blocks are pretty low, but it can add up.  Anyway, no harm done.  I just thought I'd mention it. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:24, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Gainful employment]]. Yes. I dare you to.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 08:32, 4 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Why? What's the purpose of you messaging me? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:25, 4 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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It's open for you to make your suggested additions.  As to the Leif Ericson image, what needs to happen is a new image uploaded in its place.  I'll try to find one later.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 13:18, 6 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:New Leif image uploaded and added to article. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 12:56, 7 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:02, 7 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Addiction article and TAR ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello again, Regarding the [[Addiction]] article and specifically its categories, I agree with JDano. Let me attempt to explain:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;TAR&amp;quot; is short for [[User:TheAmericanRedoubt|TheAmericanRedoubt]] a former user and assistant SysOp here at Conservapedia. People have differing opinions of him, but mine is that he did offer some valuable contributions, but also did not understand and did not learn the rules of CP. Among some other issues, he tended to add many &amp;quot;See also&amp;quot; links to articles which were not sufficiently relevant and did the same with categories.  Thus, when editors refer to &amp;quot;TAR&amp;quot; they are usually talking about this debris, which should not exist.  TheAmericanRedoubt (TAR) has since stopped editing here, and his account has been deleted.  However, some of the links and categories he inserted still exists, and make things look messy.  For this reason, a number of editors (including myself) try to clean up these issues and restore a little more order.  The guide page [[Conservapedia:How to create and maintain high-quality articles]] was the direct result of TAR's methods.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Regarding the categories specifically, it's best to maintain a &amp;quot;tree&amp;quot; structure.  A page should not connect to categories which also contain subcategories it links to. Also, it should link only to categories which contain it, not categories which the page topic can contain.  In other words, a page &amp;quot;drug&amp;quot; should be in the category &amp;quot;medicines&amp;quot; but not in a category &amp;quot;antibiotics&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I hope this clarifies a bit. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:42, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please allow me to apologize for my impatience with the &amp;quot;addiction&amp;quot; article.  You accidentally stepped into the remains of a hornets' nest.  TAR added lots of utterly irrelevant see-also's and categories, in what can only be described as an attempt to turn this wiki into survivalist-pedia, or perhaps James-Wesley-Rawles-pedia.  He offended a huge number of people with his implications that we were all supposed to stockpile bullets, batteries, and other survivalist stuff (I could look it up but it's too nauseating) and move to a &amp;quot;redoubt&amp;quot; in Idaho or similar place while we wait for the apocalypse.  We were also all supposed to be into some kind of crackpot Indian alternative medicine.  (I think it was called &amp;quot;ayurvedic&amp;quot; or something like that; once again too nauseating.)  The whole wiki was in an enormous uproar for a few months.  (And Cons, who really doesn't subscribe to that stuff, nevertheless stirred up the pot by pretending to be in email contact with the guy.)&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you see suspicious see-also's or categories, especially with codewords like &amp;quot;nanny state&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;gun-grabbing&amp;quot;, be aware this might be detritus from TAR.  I support the second amendment, but I don't support putting all this survivalist garbage into an article on fire hydrants.&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 01:36, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It has taken a huge amount of work to undo TAR's damage.  I suppose that you think that there is a bias against any change he had made, and there is probably some truth to that.  He did not understand that our categories have a tree structure.  Instead, he thought of categories as a word association test.   Putting in excess categories and excessive red links makes Conservapedia less appealing to users and lowers our google search engine rankings.  In theory, every article could be in every category, because there is some plausible connection between any two subjects.  If we had a separate article on &amp;quot;Drug Addiction&amp;quot; then it could have categories like [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] or [[:Category:Drugs]].  The problem is that [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] is a subcategory of [[:Category:Drugs]] ''breaking up the category tree with an infinite loop.'' Here the Addiction article is on a much higher level that discusses video games, etc. So, it is not useful to a high school student looking for information about illegal drugs, in my opinion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 05:46, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thank you all for your explanations. Considering these things, I will try not to get in the way next time this clean up occurs. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:13, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
== Thanks! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You helped make [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/conservapedia.com THIS] happen. &lt;br /&gt;
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I have never seen a non-profit website go from below 100,000 rank to nearly a 50,000 Alexa ranking in about a year. And Andy payed zero dollars for internet marketing services during this period. &lt;br /&gt;
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And there is no sign of a nearing web traffic plateau. My guess is that Trump supporters/Trump era and the resulting political waves significantly explains the boost in traffic.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trump supporters seem very loyal so the traffic boost could be long lasting. It also seems like there is a reawakening of right-wing politics/nationalism that will be long lasting.  And right-wing populism and &amp;quot;[[best of the public]]&amp;quot; go together like peanut butter and jelly. :)  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:30, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You're welcome, and thank ''you'' for all your edits! I'm happy to help improve the quality of Conservapedia. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:56, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Quick project==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Guy:&lt;br /&gt;
Our state articles list the members of Congress from each state, but they have not be updated for 2016.  If five editors could update 10 states each, we would be done quickly.  Could you please take a look at [[Conservapedia:Community Portal#Political directory]]? Thanks in advance, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 16:13, 15 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your help with the project and with People's Party. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:02, 21 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your terrific work.  One tip: the licensing information should be expressly included in the uploads.  I added it here: [[File:EU_member_states.png]].  Thanks again for your edits and uploads.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:27, 7 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you for the tip. I will remember to add the information next time. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:34, 7 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Try working on it now.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 10:48, 11 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A few months ago, you told me to ask you any questions I had, so here goes:&lt;br /&gt;
*When recategorizing the massive and messy [Category:Authors] by nationality, I found two authors, [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], whom I could not recategorize as [Category:American Authors].  Could you change them for me?&lt;br /&gt;
*When fixing the [[Francois Rabelais]] cedilla mess, I set up a redirect.  Has anyone ever made a loop out of redirects?  If so, what happened?  I'm scared to try it.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lastly, where is my attention now best sent - expanding the author articles, improving our coverage of science and mathematics, or maybe tackling another recat job, like [Category:Music]?&lt;br /&gt;
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:1) Concerning [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], those articles are protected, and as an assistant sysop, I do not have the ability to edit them. I recommend asking someone like [[User:Karajou]] or CP's owner, [[User:Aschlafly]] to either unlock the articles to allow you to fix the category or to have them change the cat themselves. I've made many similar requests to them and they will be happy to help.&lt;br /&gt;
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:2) I have not heard of someone doing that before. I personally don't think anything bad would happen if someone did try it, as you can still access the actual redirect page to remove the loop.&lt;br /&gt;
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:3) Honestly, all three choices are great. If I were you, I would probably choose to expand the articles already created so that the average reader would find them more interesting and worthwhile, rather than just seeing a stub. After that, I would personally move on to work on another category, so that CP is better-organized. Then after that, I would do math and science, which is (as far as I can tell) on a different theme than your other work. This is my personal preference, but if you would prefer doing it in a different order feel free! You have been very helpful to CP, and I appreciate your work. Keep it up! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:20, 14 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Hi, just a quick note: A redirect loop shouldn't be a problem.  I think the user is only redirected once, so after that they see the second redirect page.  Redirect loops, double redirects, and dead redirects should all be avoided when possible.  Thanks for your contributions! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:23, 14 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You are entirely correct, DavidB4; I just tried a loop with soda and pop (and removed it).  Typing one would give you the page for the other, and an option to redirect.  I'll proceed to expand the author pages now.  Feel free to removed this section to abridge the talk page.--[[User:Abcqwe|Abcqwe]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 15:58, 15 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Could you please write this article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please write this important article: [[Atheism and ethics]]? &lt;br /&gt;
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I may ask another writer or tow to contribute to it also.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:07, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, I think I will be able to find some time to do it. Unfortunately, I have other things on my to-do list (even for CP), but this article is important, and I will try to find time to help. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:10, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::OK. Thanks. I think [[User:Pokeria1]] will be assisting you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:55, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Sources to help you write an article ===&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.spectator.co.uk/2014/04/ethics-for-atheists/# Would human life be sacred in an atheist world?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheists_more_immoral.html Atheism Doesn't Lead to Immoral Behavior - Or Does It?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheism_determinism_morality.html Does Atheism (Determinism) Negatively Impact Morality?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://apologetics-notes.comereason.org/2015/03/atheism-ethics-and-immorality.html Atheism, Ethics, and Immorality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.thinkingchristian.net/posts/2016/01/good-nothing-make-atheist-ethics-better-christian/ Being Good “For Nothing” — Does That Make Atheist Ethics Better Than Christian?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/questions-on-atheism-ethics-and-marital-conflict Questions on Atheism, Ethics, and Marital Conflict]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by Paul Copan&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://themelios.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-amorality-of-atheism The amorality of atheim] by Rob Smith&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/can-we-be-good-without-godCan Can we be good without God?] by William Lane Craig]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics and morality] by Ken Ammi&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.doesgodexist.org/NovDec06/AtheisticExplanations.html Atheist explanations of morality and common sense]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2015/09/does_being_an_atheist_interfer.html Does being an atheist interfere with being moral?] by Lydia McGrew&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://americanvision.org/2742/nietzsche-slaps-down-dawkins-on-the-illusion-of-atheist-morality/ Nietzsche slaps down Dawkins on the illusion of atheist morality] by Dr. Joel McDurmon&lt;br /&gt;
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== quick note ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you be interested in email communication with me? My email is userconservative135@gmail.com &lt;br /&gt;
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Please let me know if you are interested. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:54, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, that would be great! I've been thinking for some time of setting up a CP email address account, and I'll do that within the next couple of days. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:29, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK. That sounds good. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:02, 19 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Here it is: 1990sguysdg@gmail.com --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 21 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I just sent you an email. Let me know if you got it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:10, 21 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I wrote another response to your email. Please check your email box. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:05, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I got your latest email and responded to it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== If you are interested, another article that needs to be created ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If you are interested, another article that needs to be created: [[Secular ethics]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sources about this topic:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_ethics Secular ethics]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:11, 20 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== A couple more article suggestions related to atheism and morality ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, here are a few more articles that need to be written about atheism and morality:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Evolutionary ethics]], Wikipedia has an article on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_ethics&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Ethical naturalism]], Wikipedia has an article on it at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_naturalism&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Ethical subjectivism]], Wikipedia has an article on this subject at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_subjectivism&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your assistance on the [[Atheism and ethics]] article. It was much appreciated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:21, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Project I invited you to participate in plus   ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is the project I invited you to participate in: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Conservapedia:Atheism Project]]&lt;br /&gt;
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It should be easy to find relevant online material in order to create some of the articles. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:19, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you, Conservative, for your suggestions. I will begin on some of these soon. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:53, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I sent you an email. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:57, 24 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blocking user &amp;quot;reformed&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, I've got to say that vandalizing the user page of someone with block authority is '''really''' stupid.&lt;br /&gt;
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But I take issue with your claim that he was an &amp;quot;obvious sock&amp;quot;.  As one who has been blocked a number of times on completely bogus socking charges, I take that stuff seriously.  (The blocking was generally done by someone (now deceased) who had &amp;quot;checkuser&amp;quot; privileges and therefore had good tools for detecting socks, but did not understand how internet addresses work.)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is not at all obvious to me, as one who has a lot of experience at CP, that he was a sock.  He was a vandal, and you should block him for that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, dear.  Now I see that there's a big storm of this stuff going on.  And, yes, these guys, or at least some of them, are probably socks of each other.  And at least one of them is using the name &amp;quot;obvioussock&amp;quot;, just to taunt you.  And one says he used to be a washing machine in his previous life.&lt;br /&gt;
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My goodness!  I think you are being trolled!  :-)  :-)  And no, I had nothing to do with this.  Just block them.  It will blow over soon.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:54, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you for your message. :) Due to the fact that &amp;quot;reformed&amp;quot; was created right after I blocked two users and vandalized my user page, I assumed that it was a clear sock of one or both of them. However, as it was not clear to you and possibly others, I changed the block settings to just include vandalism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:06, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Screw up==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I'm working with a tablet, and it's a piece of garbage. I didn't intentionally remove your comments. Sorry. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:31, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Assuming you're referring to those at [[Talk:Main Page]], apology accepted. It can happen to the best of us. They were other user's edits, however. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:33, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thank you ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For your reverts yesterday on my userpage, saw the sock puppet master was not finished with his trolling. [[User:YortKeldher|YortKeldher]] ([[User talk:YortKeldher|talk]]) 07:37, 26 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:54, 26 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your improvements to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination]]. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 16:13, 29 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:30, 29 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== small request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you a message at the last place we communicated. Can you please read that message? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:59, 6 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I sent you the information I promised.  It is located at the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:36, 6 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sent you message. Please check place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:::I sent you a quick note to the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:51, 18 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Could you please go to the place we last communicated? It is regarding another matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Photo size==&lt;br /&gt;
With a large photo, there is much more word wrap in the table of contents, which makes it even longer.  We need a wide table of contents. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 19:08, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I've checked and double-checked, and I see no way how the larger-sized photo does anything to the table of contents. And I'm using a standard Google Chrome, 100% zoom screen. Could it be your search engine/zoom? I don't see any reason why the larger image is a problem in any way. I think it looks better, regardless. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:06, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::On Firefox the TOC is longer due to word wrap.  You can get other pictures to help fill the space, but the space will be shorter if the TOC is wider. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:19, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I am getting a lot of 500 errors.  I will wait for you to finish, and then I will go back and apply my changes. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:07, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have done my changes. But please, when making those changes, please do ''not'' revert changes I have made, particularly changes that I have already reverted you multiple times. I'm tired of these disputes. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:09, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== IRC ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
After some discussion (on [[User_talk:DavidB4#Conservapedia_IRC_channel|my talk page]] and [[User_talk:Aschlafly#IRC|Andy's]]) it has been decided that I start an [[Internet Relay Chat]] channel for Conservapedia, since our old one has been dead since 2009.  It is now registered and somewhat set up.  I don't know if you use IRC or are interested in doing so, but anyone with block privileges on Conservapedia can also get block privileges on the new IRC channel.  Unfortunately, IRC accounts are deleted after 30 days of being unused, so unless you plan on using the IRC at least once a month, there is probably not much point in registering.  In any case, feel free to try it out--if you account gets deleted, we can always make another one later.  If you are interested, please let me know!&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The IRC channel is: #conservapedia @irc.accessIRC.net&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Let me know if you have any questions or need anything else, also! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:33, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you for your response. I have never used or really even heard of IRC prior before now (or, more accurately, before you and Andy started talking about it). What is the purpose of IRC? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:47, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It is perhaps the oldest form of instant messaging.  It is basically a chat room, where people can join and idle or actively chat.  Visitors can ask members questions, and members can collaborate.  There is even file sharing, if that would be useful.  I'm going to be writing a how-to-use guide to explain the actual usage better.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Most people use software clients, which they install (or run portably, which a whole different story), but web clients are also available, such as [https://kiwiirc.com/client?settings=7c7240c62a5d4861a8ad0ba697929f39 this one].  With the web client, you can just pick a name and connect, without installing anything.  Also, since IRC has been around so long, software for it is compatible with almost anything.  All desktop and most mobile operating systems support it. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:55, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the info! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:24, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Vandal ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Already took care of that and left a note for [[User talk:Teapublican|Teapublican]] on his talk page. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:09, 20 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:08, 20 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Recent item on maintalk -- congratulations! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I just couldn't resist making fun of you there.  I immediately recognized the Breitbart article, as one that I had seen shortly before.  And then I saw that it was you.  No hard feelings, I hope.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 23:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:None at all. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:37, 24 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Congratulations!  The [[March for Science]] article is a ''really good article''.  And you made it so.  (Well, with a little prodding from me.)  It sets out, straightforwardly, what was going on, and it doesn't descend into namecalling.  I realize that you probably have very strong disagreements with what most of those people were doing, but you kept it professional.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Really good articles, especially on potential &amp;quot;hot button&amp;quot; issues of politics, aren't all that common.  Now maybe I will make another attempt to return the [[Pussy Riot]] article to the good state it was in back when I expanded it in 2014, before it got messed up with the implication that anyone who opposes murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin must be a &amp;quot;leftist&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;elitist&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;social justice warrior&amp;quot;.  For which I was blocked, in blatant violation of the rules of this site.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 14:25, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thank you for the compliment! Unfortunately, the router I'm using blocked the &amp;quot;Pussy Riot&amp;quot; article because of the first word in the title, so I cannot comment on that at all. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:00, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::How sad.  I have created the redirect [[Nadezhda Tolokonnikova]] in case that helps.  But it probably won't.  You had no trouble typing the &amp;quot;P&amp;quot; word above, so I guess it's a problem of your router not going to a page with that word in the title.  Maybe I should have named the page with its Cyrillc letters: &amp;quot;Пусси Райот&amp;quot;.  Well, you're not missing anything of cosmic importance.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 16:42, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The redirect actually did work. Thanks! The article does not appear to have a high quality (at least in the aesthetic sense), so changes would probably be beneficial, but if you're going to make changes, I would like to remind you to be cautious and not to contradict CP's POV. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:17, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::In case you forgot, Sam &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;(and how fast it appears that happens with you)&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;, it was ''you'' who violated the rules of this site by putting a liberal POV into that article (among others, [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/SamHB per your history]) in the first place, then insistently readding it after your edit was reverted and you were warned about violating CP policy and about starting fights with other editors. You really should take the advice you're being given here and not continue violating CP policy. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 21:59, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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A few things:&lt;br /&gt;
*Today is my 9th anniversary at Conservapedia!&lt;br /&gt;
*I can assure everyone that I am very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP.  I am also familiar with the many, many, many discussions of these points that have taken place over the years.&lt;br /&gt;
*@Northwest: this is the expected response.&lt;br /&gt;
*@1990's guy: this is ''not'' the response I expected.  I'm chagrined that you think the article is of low quality.  Especially since you know how to write high quality articles.&lt;br /&gt;
I'm serious.  I was proud of that article as originally written/expanded by me.  I thought it laid out the facts accurately, and avoided name-calling and such.  Exactly like the March for Science article.  Please look at the article (preferably the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Pussy_Riot&amp;amp;oldid=1328015] version, before name-calling got put in) and fix it up as you see fit.  The name-calling consisted, among other things, of saying that those people around the world who took an interest in the case were &amp;quot;elitists&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;social justice warriors on the left&amp;quot;.  The latter term is straight out of Huffington Post and their ilk.  It is a term of bleeding hearts in America, and not used widely elsewhere.  In any case, one doesn't need to be an SJW to oppose murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin.  In fact, given the recent falling out between President Trump and Putin, the accepted orthodoxy here at CP might be swinging away from support for the murderous thug.  I hope so.&lt;br /&gt;
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Please improve the article.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 11:28, 28 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:My problem is not with content; it is with organization, layout, aesthetics, etc. There are no subsections, which at least show the reader how the article is organized; it is just many paragraphs. Such articles do not appeal to the reader. IMO, it feels like reading a textbook. If it is just a few paragraphs, it is fine, but thus article has ten paragraphs. Adding a few headers and possibly an image would be beneficial (and I realized just as I wrote this that the March for Science article is approaching that length as well, so I probably either should just keep my mouth shut or add headers there as well). I did not mean to insult or degrade your work, and I apologize for giving that impression. BTW, happy 9th anniversary! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 28 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sam - by your response, you're only proving what I said about your tactics and your history here right. You claim to be &amp;quot;very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP&amp;quot;, but you only pay lip service to them here while your actions on CP over the years (and even now) are showing that you simply choose to disregard them for the sake of pushing liberal POV on this site and to start fights with those who don't share your viewpoint. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 18:08, 28 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bill Nye ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please contact me by email at sam4557@gmail.com?  I think we can make a really good article out of this.  I have a number of criticisms of his behavior--my opinion of him has gone down a whole lot over the last few weeks, and I think I have some insights about this that I'd like to bounce off of you.  I know that you and I disagree totally about evolution and creationism, but we can put together a good article stating the facts.  We can stay away from the name-calling that so many articles contain, and avoid things like &amp;quot;so-and-so falsely believes that ...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is ''not'' about Pussy Riot, ''not'' about Conservapedia politics, and ''not'' about you-know-who.  I just want to bounce some ideas off of you about Bill Nye and see if we can put together a really nice article.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 01:00, 4 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Expanded article, footnote did not support genocide/racist abortions adequately ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I greatly expanded this article [[Abortion and eugenics]].  The footnote in the liberal article was not supporting or at the very least inadequately supporting racist/genocidal abortion policies of [[Margaret Sanger]], etc. &lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically, I skimmed the article as far as the footnoted article and it did not appear to strongly support such a big claim like abortion/genocide, etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:26, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Something isn't right here==&lt;br /&gt;
... Ohhh I know what it is. ''Margaret Thatcher'' is on the list of liberals. ''Margaret. Thatcher.'' The bastion of conservatism. A favourite of Reagan. How in the ''world'' did she make the liberal list? [[User:Koidevelopment|Vive]] [[User talk:Koidevelopment|Liberté!]] 09:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wasn't me who added her. She was not as conservative as people think she is, as she did vote in favor of legalizing abortion and homosexuality. But, that said, it would probably be better without mentioning her, to avoid people focusing on her mention in the article. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:24, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::She might not have been a perfect conservative, but I still think she probably doesn't belong on that list.  Of course, if you go back 80 years and read writings and speeches from liberals of the day, they sound downright conservative now.  Still, she did defend liberty and much of conservatism. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Lady Thatcher's criticism of Simon Callow's performance in ''Amadeaus'' made her homophobic, I thought. Being homophobic wouldn't preclude one from being liberal however, [[Bill Moyers]] and Louis Black for example. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:31, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I assume that adding the liberalism template to the [[Episcopal Church]] article was improper? I would like to know what the proper usage of this template is for future reference. TEC is one of, if not the most liberal Christian denomination in the US these days, sadly. I do apologize for this improper usage, as I am a new editor. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:00, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello Anglican! I removed the template because I thought the article was outside the scope of the &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot; template. What I mean is that the template links to liberal traits, but not necessarily to liberal organizations. I think the category is good for the article, but not template. I hope this helps! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That makes sense. Thank you for your patience. It's sad what has happened to the Episcopal Church in recent years. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You're welcome, and I agree. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on liberalism. So... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on [[liberalism]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The article needs major improvements. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am not going to work on it due to time restraints. I spent a lot of time improving the [[liberal]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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I would use the same approach used with the liberal article. Clearly delineate liberalism from socialism/fascism because they are very substantially different (for example, Sweden vs. Communist China vs. Nazi Germany). But mention how the gap between the ideologies has narrowed in the United States. I don't keep up with European politics to know the situation there as far as the gap other than knowing that China has become more capitalistic. European countries commonly have more major political parties in a country so the situation is more difficult to keep tabs on.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:33, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I would work on the liberalism article. But also create 2-3 sub-articles: [[American liberalism]] and [[Western liberalism]] and [[European liberalism]].  The [[American liberalism]] article is just a one sentence stub article. &lt;br /&gt;
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::I suggest a [[Western liberalism]] article due to the Canadians, Australia, NZ, and South Africa. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:09, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Since the Brits and Canadians have the most influence in the Anglosphere on the USA, you might want to create a [[British liberalism]] article and a [[Canadian liberalism]] article too. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::Its too bad all this wasn't done before given that CP is a political website. I was largely focused on [[atheism]] which is a dying ideology. This had an indirect relation to liberalism given the prominence of the [[secular left]] on liberal/leftist politics. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: American liberalism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I copied and pasted some of the [[liberal]] article into the [[American liberalism]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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Generally speaking, ideally you want the material in the section for main article linking to a sub-article to have substantially different content. In this case, you want the [[American liberalism]] article to have different content than the &amp;quot;American liberalism&amp;quot; section of the [[liberal]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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So if you want to reword and/or add material to the [[American liberalism]] article the would be excellent. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Opinion on renaming an article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wanted your opinion on an idea of mines to rename one of our articles on Conservapedia before taking it to an admin or someone with the ability to actually change the name of a page.&lt;br /&gt;
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The current page [[Exodus of Israel]], I think, should be renamed to [[The Exodus]], where [[Exodus of Israel]] should simply be a redirect to that page. Not many users would think of typing 'Exodus of Israel' to get to a page on 'The Exodus', and 'The Exodus' is just much simpler. As it is, [[The Exodus]] is currently a redirect to [[Exodus of Israel]]. I think it should be the other way around. Your thoughts?[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 13:34, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I think it is better the way it is. My main reason is that having titles along the lines of &amp;quot;The....&amp;quot; does not sound encyclopedic. The current name, I believe, is more high quality for that reason. Now, it is true that many users might not think of typing &amp;quot;Exodus of Israel,&amp;quot; but if they type &amp;quot;[[Exodus]],&amp;quot; they'll run into the disambiguation page and find the actual article. Also, I'm not sure that many people would think of typing &amp;quot;The Exodus.&amp;quot; To sum it up, I think the current title is better and give the article a more encyclopedic feel, but you're welcome to ask another editor what they think. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the thoughts. Wikipedia currently uses 'The Exodus', and I find that it simply looks better, as a title, then 'Exodus of Israel'. Secondly, I also consider it more likely for someone to type in 'The Exodus' then 'Exodus of Israel'.[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 15:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Once again, if you want to ask another editor for their opinion, like DavidB4, feel free to do so. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:20, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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At this point, all relevant pages have been created, and therefore this template no longer will ever need any more editing as it is complete. So the best thing to do is to get it locked to avoid any vandalism problems in the future. Just to note, before I came on, it was already locked, even though it still had many problems. Now that the template is fixed, the best thing to do is to get it locked. [[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 20:57, 12 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I recommend asking [[User:Aschlafly]] or [[User:Karajou]]. They have protection powers. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:15, 12 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Block length==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your alert blocks.  But one year is a long time for a block.  IP addresses often change in a shorter period.  You might consider 3 months as a better block duration in many cases.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:25, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK. I'll see to that. Should I change the blocks I just did? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:26, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just went ahead and changed them. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:41, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Congratulations on Donald Trump accomplishments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, I just checked Google.  While that movie award comes up first when &amp;quot;Donald Trump achievements,&amp;quot; is Googled, and you are the first result after, you get nice results with certain other phrases:&lt;br /&gt;
*Donald Trump accomplishments - third link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
*Trump achievements - first link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
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While Conservative's essays come up first when their exact titles are Googled, bear in mind that these phrases are Googled more frequently.&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations on the publicity, 1990sguy!--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 08:07, 25 May 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Great job, it is well deserved! - -[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, Nathan and DavidB, I appreciate it! It seems I chose the right article to create, in terms of gaining page views. For a while, when one searched the exact title of my article, that silly award was not at the top of the article, and in its place was a box with a picture of Trump linking to my article. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:24, 25 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you chat briefly?  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we chat briefly? Can you please go to place I sent you messages before? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:16, 3 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Here is the the article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Liberal vs. libertarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:54, 3 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== It's been great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You've been helpful since I you first welcomed me here - me, someone who had never used wikitext or HTML in his life and never believed in a young Earth.  You've really made me consider that viewpoint, and you've done it with a brilliant personal appeal, far better than User:Conservative ever has.--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 16:34, 4 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Europe's childless leaders==&lt;br /&gt;
Where do you think [http://dcwhispers.com/rather-odd-troubling-fact-european-leaders/ we can squeeze this in] [[European migrant crisis]]? In the Intro or elsewhere? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:13, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think that would be a good idea. We could also, possibly, add it to the [[European Union]] article, and maybe [[Globalism]] or [[Liberal]], as these leaders advocate for left-wing globalist policies. Are you able to find other sources that note this fact? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:53, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this also illustrates liberal European values. They support mass immigration of peoples who do not share their culture while they themselves have no children. They are committing national/cultural suicide. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:15, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The reason I removed Ted Nugent from Notable Texans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because Ted Nugent is actually from Michigan. Sorry that I forgot to add an explanation. ([[User:King Conservative|King Conservative]] ([[User talk:King Conservative|talk]]) 13:37, 17 June 2017 (EDT)King Conservative)&lt;br /&gt;
:I removed him from the list. Thanks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:16, 17 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Template tweak==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, guy! Thanks for the {{tl|See also}} in [[Neil Gorsuch]]. That template works better. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:53, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome, always happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:58, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Nasty edit summaries==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear 1990sguy:  Please stop writing inflammatory edit summaries.  There is no need to make false personal attacks on other editors.  As for Breitbart, each reference is evaluated individually on its own merits.  If it is news reporting, I welcome it.  However, some references are clearly opinion-editorial pieces that criticize other news stories instead of offering any independent news gathering.  Some authors there are editorial-opinion writers rather than news reporters.  Also, when I check a source and see photos of immodestly dressed women with &amp;quot;wardrobe malfunction&amp;quot; captions or women wearing tight T-shirts imprinted with &amp;quot;no silicone&amp;quot;, I am less inclined to use those sources, given our family-friendly approach. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:31, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Conservapedia has no requirement that only news reporter sources can be used for mews sources. For example, many excellent conservative editorial pieces link to a news story or quote a news story while providing excellent commentary. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The mainstream press. which is very liberal, have a lot more reporters and they still have some foreign bureaus if I am not mistaken. Then you have Fox which only has a fraction of the combined viewership of ABC, CBS, and NBC.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, there are conservative news organizations such as CNS News. But I don't think we should limit ourselves to merely using conservative news organizations as far as news sources.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:54, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree with Conservative on this. We can use conservative news sources, even if the articles appear to be editorializing. This is a conservative encyclopedia, after all. Why should we adopt editing policies that give liberal MSM sources an unfair advantage? How then can we differentiate ourselves from Wikipedia? I am not opposed to citing MSM sources (I do it myself), but we should give precedence to conservative sources, which do not have leftist bias. Yes, Breitbart has silly ads, but I care more about the content of the article than the ads. There are many Breitbart writers who support conservative, Christian pro-family policies. Are there any at CNN or the NYT?&lt;br /&gt;
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::JDano, yes, my edit summaries were inflammatory. I probably should have acted cooler when dealing with you, and for that, I apologize. Your behavior, constantly reverting and adding changes that I genuinely believe to contain leftist bias without going to the talk page until you've been reverted several times, is not constructive. I do believe your changes are undermining our status as a conservative alternative to Wikipedia. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 02:50, 29 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== re: JDano and you getting &amp;quot;horse throwing&amp;quot; mad ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the recent edit changes, I saw you use all caps in your description of your edit. It was for the [[Travel ban]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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This tells me that you are starting to get &amp;quot;horse throwing&amp;quot; mad. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it becomes necessary, you can impose a [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]] to JDano since you have blocking rights. You can make it applicable to certain articles or certain article categories. Probably a certain article would be best as a shot across his bow. &lt;br /&gt;
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If JDano also has blocking rights, you can get Karajou/Aschlafly to impose such a ban. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:29, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:P.S. I don't know if you are correct in this matter. And I don't have time to mediate. I am just offering you a suggestion since I have experienced JDano being unreasonable at times. Also, the majority of Conservapedians/Republicans/conservatives are more fans of Trump than Lindsey Graham.  JDano appears to be in the Graham camp. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:37, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Please see my comment in the section immediately above. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 02:51, 29 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the &amp;quot;travel ban&amp;quot; article.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just posted this message to JDano's talk page:&lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in terms of its Muslim population. The travel ban of the Trump administration does not include Indonesia.&amp;quot;[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:13, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the fake news article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The [[fake news]] article was locked/protected. It seems as if the root cause of the page being locked was an edit war involving yourself. &lt;br /&gt;
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You are no longer allowed to edit the fake news article. I am imposing a Conservapedia topic ban on you for this article. See: [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope additional topic bans are not imposed on you by people with block rights.&amp;quot; [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:23, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Socks of JamesWilson  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Socks of this clown should receive five year bans. He is a malicious provocateur, and he singlehandedly destroyed another website as well as leading dozens of people off this site. Show this schlemiel no mercy. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:16, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't see why we should be giving long blocks to this guy. He's clearly using multiple ip addresses. These addresses will probably get passed to one or more people who have no intention of vandalizing CP. DavidB4 explained by long blocks are not a good idea on my talk page: [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:1990%27sguy&amp;amp;diff=1304184&amp;amp;oldid=1303142] However, I will not challenge your lengthening of that block or any other. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:20, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe you do have a point because he has created a few different accounts in the past day or so. All I'm saying is that lightening up on him isn't going to work. My late friend George let this guy off easy, and he destroyed an entire community. I've had plenty of experience with this guy in the past to know his MO, and he's fanatically obsessed with Taylor Swift and &amp;quot;avenging&amp;quot; others because they &amp;quot;ruined&amp;quot; his articles. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:28, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That's fair. This guy is clearly bad news. Regardless of what block lengths we give him (and I can see some sense in making them longer), we should try not to accidently prevent innocent people from viewing CP. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:30, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::How do we know that this editor is a &amp;quot;sock&amp;quot; of JamesWilson?  Has anyone checked the IP user logs?  The Taylor Swift connection could be a false-flag operation. If George and James got into an edit-war on a different website, that would not be relevant here.  Let's judge each editor separately until they can be linked by evidence. Are all of the problem users created in the past few days created from the same or very similar IP addresses? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:27, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::He put &amp;quot;Sad case!- James Wilson&amp;quot; in the edit summary of all of his vandalism, and it was the same stuff he's always done. If he says it's him, I'm just gonna assume it's him. Dont give this guy the benefit of the doubt. He's had plenty enough breaks here and elsewhere. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 16:03, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::@JDano: Yes, I think it clearly is JamesWilson. His vandalism is very repetitive -- he even vandalizes the user pages of the same users. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:52, 4 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*FYI, even if an account is blocked indefinitely, the autoblock on the IPs is only for twenty-four hours. If the IP block was for as long as the account's block, checkusers wouldn't have to put separate blocks on persistent vandals' IP addresses. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 18:26, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Since I've written a few articles on Christianity, please feel free to edit them to conform to the views of Conservapedia if necessary. Admittedly, writing about Christianity as a Jew can be a bit difficult at times. --[[User:RonaldB|Ronald]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:35, 5 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have not seen any factual problems with the articles you created. However, I do recommend that you add categories of the religion you are writing about to those articles. For example, that you add &amp;quot;Category:Christianity&amp;quot; to [[Secular Christianity]] and &amp;quot;Category:Judaism&amp;quot; to [[Secular Judaism]]. The people who practice these are not Jews (religiously speaking) or Christians, but the articles are relevant to those religions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Also, I recommend that you add at least one source to the articles you create. Adding sources to articles is Commandment #2 in [[Conservapedia:Commandments]], and it makes the articles better for readers. They know where you are getting your information from, and they can read further if they are interested. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:51, 6 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Changing my username ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know if Andy saw my request on his talk page. Did he skip it or didn't see it? --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 9:18, 10 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know. Sometimes he does that, but when I message him again he usually replies. I recommend commenting again, letting him know how much you want your username changed, and asking him to respond. I think we will do it, but only if you absolutely want it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:49, 10 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I read [[User_talk:Aschlafly#Inquiry|the back and forth]] with the guy you probably were referring to on Andy's page. Andy seemed pretty reluctant to change the RonaldB's name for most of the discussion.. Is the process of changing someone's username complex or difficult to do, or did he just want to make sure that the guy wasn't being wishy-washy about the change? I was a little sheepish about asking him again because I don't want to seem annoying. --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 5:07, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think CP admins generally prefer simply creating a new account. The user who made the other request was not the original person using the account. The original person let him take over the account. I can see why Andy wanted him to create a new account. I recommend you politely letting him know how much you want your username changed, and why, and asking him to respond, regardless of his answer. I think that would be a good move on your part. It would show how serious you are with this request. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:06, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Trump ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think Donald Trump is going to get stuck with the blame for the economic bubble created by the Obama administration and the Federal Reserve.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwtkIpgAnA]  &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, TrumpCare probably will not work because it is keeping the &amp;quot;precondition clause&amp;quot; of ObamaCare due to its popularity. People will often not buy health insurance until they are sick. So the health care system will not be viable. Car insurance companies could not be profitable if people could buy their car insurance after their car accident in order to replace their car. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:00, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You are probably right on both of those things. The first point would be the fault of the Obama Administration, and the second by the establishment GOP Congress. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Got it, thanks for letting me know. --[[User:OneTrueConservative|OneTrueConservative]] ([[User talk:OneTrueConservative|talk]]) 00:12, 12 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 00:21, 12 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Expansion of right-wing material on the internet ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/3dy7vb/why-the-right-is-dominating-youtube Why the Right Is Dominating YouTube] - Vice News&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.nctv.nl/binaries/psychological-effects-of-right-wing-and-islamic-extremist-internet-videos_tcm31-30177.pdf Psychological effects of right-wing and Islamic extremist videos]  - Netherlands and German report&lt;br /&gt;
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I haven't looked at the latter two items, but right-wingers gaining momentum on the internet is an interesting development.  With nationalism gaining ground in Europe and 21st century [[desecularization]] occurring, the trend is bound to continue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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===Scriptural Geology===&lt;br /&gt;
Scriptural Geologists published in the USA as well.  CRSQ published my review of David Lord &amp;quot;Geognosy&amp;quot; (that has other citations as well). [my magazines are in &lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks, Snoopy2, for your addition! I noted this fact, briefly in the article, in &amp;quot;The scriptural geologists&amp;quot; section. I knew that most of the Scriptural Geologists were British, and I did not have the time or knowledge of them to go into much more detail. Thanks for your help! Please remember to sign your posts in the future. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:06, 31 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== important message for you ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I also have some good news for you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:10, 13 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BLOCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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== Block duration ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your great blocks but they should generally not exceed 6 months in duration.  By then the IP address is typically being used by someone else.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:27, 27 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK. I will keep that in mind. I will change this vandal's block. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:46, 27 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Björn Höcke nannte das Holocaust-Mahnmal ein &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot;. Zudem sprach er von einer &amp;quot;dämlichen Bewältigungspolitik&amp;quot; und forderte eine &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot;. Hinterher behauptete Höcke, er hätte den Holocaust als Schande bezeichnet. Wenn man sich nun seine Rede genau anschaut, kann er nur das Denkmal als Schande bezeichnet haben. Höcke hat offen NS-Gedankengut offenbart und dies auch gewollt. Er ist ein Agent des BRD-Systems, die zum Ziel haben, die AfD unwählbar zu machen. Dasselbe haben sie schon mit der NPD gemacht (in den 90er Jahren). Ich find's ja auch schade, dass die AfD unterwandert wurde und nicht mehr wählbar ist. Auch ich habe große Hoffnungen in sie gesetzt. Aber spätestens seit dem letzten Parteitag ist sie unwählbar, die Neo-Nazis gewannen die Oberhand, Gauland wurde Spitzenkandidat. Solange Petry keine neue Partei gründet, müssen Rechtschaffene bei der Bundestagswahl das geringste Übel wählen (z.B. die Freien Wähler oder die BüSo). Aber die AfD ist klar von NS-Agenten unterwandert und ich schrieb noch mehr in den Artikel, also lassen Sie mich zumindest Höckes Rede einfügen, dann kann sich jeder selber ein Bild machen. MfG --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 10:16, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Grüetzi Elessar, CP ist ein Englisher website, so es ist besser wann wir in English schreiben. Ich denke dass die meisten leute heir sprechen kein Deutsch. Danke. Wass ich sage ist sehr kontrovers in Deutschland, aber, Ich probiere ein klares und gutes antwort zum geben:&lt;br /&gt;
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:First off, many political parties have their crazy members. I know that UKIP explicitly disavows racism, but it has had some members who have said some silly things. I definitely do ''not'' believe the GOP in the U.S. is racist, but David Duke considers himself a Republican (and every other Republican disavows him). Even the Swiss People's Party in my country (I am also a U.S. citizen) has some members who have said racist things. Just because parties have members like this does not necessarily mean that the entire party is racist or whatever. In the case of Höcke's speech, Petry (the party leader, as you know) condemned what he said, or at least criticized him.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Second, I know the mindset that the German have today. They are still ashamed for what they did during World War II, and they are still focused on trying to make restitution. Personally, I think it is good that they have repented, but they miss the fact that there are two extremes: one extreme is what the Nazis did, the other is being so ashamed bad things one did that they essentially hate their country. We see this with liberals in the United States. I think the German mindset is too far in the second extreme -- and no, I am anywhere close to being a racist or Nazi. Patriotism and nationalism can be very good things, as long as they are handled correctly and are not an excuse to persecute others. The German people, I think, are trying to extinguish them, and they have accused people, even those in the middle of those two extremes, as being Nazis.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Let me also make clear that I have not read much about Björn Höcke's speech, other than what you provided and what his English Wikipedia article states, so I cannot comment on his entire speech and his entire character. He may very well be what you say he is. However, what I read about his speech and about him actually seems reasonable. Many peoples all over the world have done many evil things -- slavery in the U.S. and the other European colonies, the Islamic slave trade, religious persecution in Rome and the communist nations, the several genocides in history, etc. However, it is not constructive for cultures to focus on these events. It is good to remember them and repent of them, but not to obsess about them. There is much more to German history than World War II, just as there is more to U.S. history than slavery. Why can't we build monuments celebrating the positive things about our cultures and our people? It is cultural suicide not to do so. While we should not forget the bad events, we should focus on the good events and remain proud as a people in order to remain strong. This seems to me what Höcke is getting at. Am I wrong?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Reading his Wikipedia article, I came accross this quote: &amp;quot;Die Syrer, die zu uns kommen, haben immer noch Syrien. Wenn wir – durch die Syrer – unser Deutschland verloren haben, dann haben wir keine Heimat mehr.&amp;quot; I can see how in Germany this is very controversial, but I think in most other countries, this is quite reasonable. It may not be a bad thing if Syrians come, but it would mean that the German people would be in danger of disappearing, at least in a cultural sense. If someone values this (as most people of all ethnicies and nationalities do -- just ask the Poles or Hungarians), they will strongly oppose immigration.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Am I wrong in what I am saying? Am I misrepresenting Höcke? I would appreciate some dialogue. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:18, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::No, you aren't wrong and I too was never questioning that the &amp;quot;eternal fault&amp;quot; (electing Hitler/WW2) which is propagated by German liberals is bullshit. I only mean that Höcke was not only saying that, but he also clearly favorized the Holocaust by calling for an &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot; and calling the Holocaust monument a &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot;. This speech was much criticized by Jewish organizations in Germany and Höcke was forbidden to visit Concentration Camp Memorials. He's not a single exemption, but there are unfortunately already lots of neo-Nazis or neo-Nazi sympathizers in the AfD who are all defending Höcke's speech, including Spitzenkandidat Alexander Gauland. Party leader Petry was forced by them not to participate. These (real) neo-Nazis are system agents who are overrunning the AfD like they did decades ago with the NPD in order to make these parties uneligible by conservative voters. But of course many liberals call all ''real'' conservatives &amp;quot;neo-Nazis&amp;quot; which there is nonsense. But Höcke is really a neo-Nazi and anti-semite and should be excluded together with his inner-party defenders. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 14:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::I don't understand how the &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot; shows that Höcke is a neo-Nazi. It seems to be saying that German policy on these matters needs to change, which I also think is reasonable. The culture of shame in Germany must end -- when will Egypt build a monument mourning the Islamic slave trade, and when will Turkey build a monument mourning the Armenian Genocide? That's what I think he is saying. Am I wrong? Please explain.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::While I am a strong supporter of Israel, I do think that many Jewish organizations in Europe and the United States are politically left-wing -- unlike the current Israeli government. The fact that they opposed Höcke's speech is unsurprising, even if he is not a neo-Nazi. Most European/American Jews support the ruling establishment's views on who is extreme and who is &amp;quot;moderate.&amp;quot; And besides, Jewish organizations have their own interests. It's reasonable for them to defend monuments mourning a genocide of their own people, regardless of whether having such a monument, or at least the mindset behind it, is a good thing or not.&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It seems to me that you are making a jump from noting what Höcke is saying to calling him a neo-Nazi. A lot of what he is saying seems reasonable, even if it is better that he watches what he says more closely, and I don't see how these comments make them neo-Nazis (I do see, however, how such comments are far outside the current German mainstream, and that they make such parties less attractive to moderate Germans). It seems to me that Höcke is a nationalist who is angry at the culture of shame in his country, which is probably the reason why it is being flooded with immigrants and weakened by the EU. Many conservatives said silly things (that sounded extremely racist) about Obama when he was U.S. President, even though those people would have voted for conservative blacks (Ben Carson, Allen West, Herman Cain) or Hispanics (Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz) in a heartbeat. Could it be that this is what Höcke is doing?&lt;br /&gt;
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:::My last thing I want to say in this comment is not related to the above. I would like to remind you that CP is a family-friendly encyclopedia, and I think this policy also applies to talk pages. I request that you thus refrain from spelling out cuss words when making comments. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:35, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Sorry about the term &amp;quot;b***&amp;quot; but I'm as angry as you about the &amp;quot;eternal fault&amp;quot; dogma. And you are completely right with most (including the Jews being too liberal in Europe), but in my opinion the quote &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot; is like he wanted to say &amp;quot;The Holocaust was nothing bad&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;not so bad&amp;quot; or so. Like it would be Holocaust relativation. Maybe Höcke really didn't mean anything bad in his speech but then he's simply uncaring of what he says because he damages his party with such unclear statements. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 16:34, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::As we disagree on his speech (even though I do think your last comment was very reasonable), I chose to move the info to another place in the article and re-word it. If you have any problems with how I re-worded it, we can discuss that as well. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Björn Höcke said in whole this: &amp;quot;Wir Deutschen – und ich rede jetzt nicht von euch Patrioten, die sich hier heute versammelt haben – wir Deutschen, also unser Volk, sind das einzige Volk der Welt, das sich ein Denkmal der Schande in das Herz seiner Hauptstadt gepflanzt hat.&amp;quot; This means, not German patriots but the other Germans (liberals e.g.) have founded the Holocaust monument which he calls a Denkmal der Schande. Which means, according to him true German patriots wouldn't have built the Holocaust monument, which can be interpreted as he's pro-Holocaust. The same interpretation is open in his other quote &amp;quot;Wir brauchen eine erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot;. Maybe he didn't want to relativate the Holocaust but he should watch out what he says, especially if his party wants to enter a coalition. A coalition with establishment parties wouldn't be bad as long as the AfD maintains its goals and gets many of them into a government program. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 01:37, 2 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::::I can see now how people think the speech was sympathizing with Nazis -- the Holocaust and WWII is a touchy topic, especially for Germans. However, I still see how what he is saying is reasonable. Turkey, for example, is not going to build a monument for the Armenian Genocide anytime soon, Russia is not going to build a monument for the many Baltic peoples they killed during WWII, and Japan is not going to build any monument for the millions of people they killed, including concentration camp prisoners.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Brexit==&lt;br /&gt;
Hi - not sure why you changed my edits on the BREXIT page - I tried to provide an accurate account of what is happening and what is being reported by many news outlets --unsigned comment by HORSEMAN&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello &amp;quot;HORSEMAN&amp;quot;, I removed the info about the potential referendums because this was just speculation that died down. I also thought that some of your wording (such as the &amp;quot;full complexity and impacts of BREXIT become apparent&amp;quot; and by removing the mention of the EU being obstructionist) seemed to insert a left-of-center bias into the article. CP is a conservative encyclopedia, and we align firmly with Brexit and Euroskepticism. However, I will see if I can re-add some of your wording. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:31, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Another problem is that for the part about the proposed payments and EU citizen rights, you did not provide sources. The existing info already had a source, and you changed the info while keeping the source. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:35, 10 August 2017 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
:::Hi Again, would this link suffice http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-17-2001_en.htm It is the definitive statement from the EU negotiating team and sets out the negotiating agenda. Thanks Horseman&lt;br /&gt;
::::You can definitely cite the source, but do you also have third party sources as well? I see nothing in the EU source about the monetary amount of the settlement. We prefer sources with conservative editorial stances. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:57, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Is this syitable, I don't pay for Telegraph articles so only have this link. Thanks Horseman&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The Telegraph is one of numerous conservative news organizations. Besides, their non-commentary articles are free for viewing. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Margaret Sanger]] revision that you undid==&lt;br /&gt;
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:You could write &amp;quot;Planned Parenthood eventually expanded to support the form of murder known as abortion.&amp;quot; Something like that. We should keep the wording encyclopedic, as this is not a blog or anything like that. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 18 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Block of TimJim ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry about that, I wasn't aware you had already blocked TimJim when I blocked him, so I reset the block length back to that of your original block. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 22:45, 19 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Article move request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi I'd be happy to move those articles you are requesting, but as you know, I cannot avoid the creation of redirects.  Let me know if you want this, but hopefully you can get it done the right way. It's also probably easier to ask for a move than a delete. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:43, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I appreciate your offer, David, but I think it would be better if I keep it simple for Andy, rather than explain that the articles were moved and that he only has to delete the redirect -- having one person do it is more simple. Thanks anyway! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:46, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed...okay.  I didn't want to cut in and disrupt things, but just thought I'd offer.  Cheers! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:49, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I do appreciate your offer, David. Thanks! It looks like Andy just moved the articles. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:50, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Contact==&lt;br /&gt;
You can email me at wirepaladin36@gmail.com [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:22, 26 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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1990s guy, I just want to verify u could read the Theistic ev. entry and 1994 film clip on my user talk.  any comments?&lt;br /&gt;
:I could watch it, but would you please explain what it's about in a little more detail? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:55, 11 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Maybe I was too pessimistic. Good news ==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Why [[Democrats]] Should Be''' Losing Sleep Over Generation Z.[https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/]&lt;br /&gt;
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Bye for now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:47, 5 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for the article. Bye for now. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:48, 5 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== File comparison tool ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did Cons ever get back to you with the comparison tool?  I'm curious about it, and whether it does a good job of checking for copied content.  The problems that it appears to solve are different from the problems of comparison tools used in software development.  I'm curious about whether it uses line hashing, sentence hashing, word group hashing, and things like that.  I'd like to try it out, and not just at CP.  In fact, probably not at all for CP; I'm not interested in who plagiarizes what at CP, though, when I am, I use other techniques to catch people.  I'm just curious as to whether those other techniques have been automated.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I can assure you that the tool exists. I have not tried it yet and thus cannot answer your question. I have no reason to try it as JDano's essays were deleted, so I recommend that you ask Conservative directly these things. Maybe he will share it with you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:23, 12 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Great!!  I'm still very much interested in it.  Is it a &amp;quot;cloud app&amp;quot;?  Is it a downloadable app that I can run locally on my own computer?  Can you send me a URL?&lt;br /&gt;
::By the way, the standard wiki comparison of your last edit to the [[Guy Verhofstadt]] article, just as a random example, shows how bad text comparers can be.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 17:40, 13 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You are going to have to ask Conservative for the details of the tool -- he told me not to give it away to anyone, and while I personally have no problem with sharing it with you, I shouldn't go against what he said. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:43, 13 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, this is really weird.  Cons seems to be trying to censor the internet itself, hiding the location of this tool.  And he seems to think that only you can be trusted with it.  He said &amp;quot;I will share this tool with 1990sguy [...] so he can evaluate your [JDano's] efforts in an objective way.&amp;quot;  I of course took this as a challenge.  A Google search for &amp;quot;similar page checker tool&amp;quot; gets a number of hits.  Ignoring the ones that cost a lot of money, and those that attempt to check a given page against the entire internet, narrowed it down to a few.  This one: [https://www.duplichecker.com/similar-page-checker.php] seems to be the right thing.  It's a &amp;quot;cloud app&amp;quot; rather than an installable program, but I can put up with that.  It has the same appearance&amp;amp;mdash;color and layout&amp;amp;mdash;as the screenshot that Cons posted and removed.  I ran it on the versions of this page before and after your recent reply to me, and it said they were 100% the same.  I'm not particularly happy about that, but the additional text was only about 0.3 percent of the total, so I suppose I can accept that.  Then I ran it on versions that differ in length by 10% (the 100K version and the 110K version.)  It said they were 98% similar.  Not good.  But I still might find it to be a useful tool.  There are pages not relating to JDano that could benefit from such an analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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::::I will probably check in with Cons on this, once he stays away from CP for 10 days.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Getting help==&lt;br /&gt;
I am trying to fix the stuff on the Corporate bullies page.  Am still learning my way around on how to use things.   Think I am starting to get it though.   The Georgia 2016 stuff has a lot of info and I am in the process of editing it, though it's going to take a while (at least 20 or more minutes.  I'm trying though.  (BTW, if I wasn't supposed to edit here, sorry.  I don't know how to reply to your remark otherwise.) [[User:PatriotMongoose|PatriotMongoose]] ([[User talk:PatriotMongoose|talk]]) 22:31, 15 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's OK to edit here. I recommend that you read CP's guidelines, and probably more importantly, that you read [[Help:How to edit a website like Conservapedia]]. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:34, 15 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fabulous block and reverts==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fabulous block and reverts this afternoon!!!!  Well done!!!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:51, 21 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks, Andy! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:52, 21 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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User: JohnZ fails to recognize that my interest to be a referee to protect a marginal online sparring partner (whose greatest achievement was his dogged stubbornness to ignore facts/evidence)  was largely protected by his edits to main space articles and my desire for an online sparring partner. &lt;br /&gt;
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His rudeness to other editors and his desire to barely skate by with his main space edits certainly did not help matters. In addition, given the [[decline of the atheist movement]] and it now being a hopeless cause destined to ever increasing irrelevance, my desire for an atheist online sparring partner is non-existent at this point given my current/future priorities. &lt;br /&gt;
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If he wants to create two quality, well-sourced original articles of at least 2,00 words on these topics [[Anti-religious Soviet Union propaganda]] and [[Christian persecution in communist China]] to restore his other editing privileges, that is what is required. &lt;br /&gt;
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He would also have to pledge to refrain from hurling insults to other editors (idiot, etc.). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:01, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hopefully he'll do it. We've given him these opportunities before and he rejected them. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:18, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I made a minor adjustment to his requirements for fully restoring his editing privileges in case someone creates articles on those subjects. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Secondly, ardent secular leftists generally always double down regardless of any contrary facts/evidence presented to them. Of course, you never know what is going to happen. The Apostle Paul went from being one of Christianity's chief opponents to being its greatest champion. He will just need to be open minded. &lt;br /&gt;
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::It is very widely recognized that there is and has been religious persecution in communist China and that there was anti-religious propaganda in the former Soviet Union. So I am giving him ample opportunity to show that he is not a close-minded individual given to hurling insults. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:31, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would say no to this for a couple reasons. The first is his blatant disrespect of everyone here, and he has shown that multiple times. The gist of it is a pretense of superiority over us, as if it is mandatory that we listen to him; he stated a short time ago that some of us are idiots for not engaging him in conversation. Which I might add is his kind of conversation. &lt;br /&gt;
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The second reason is that he's a leftist brand of liberal from Great Britain, which means we cannot change his way of thinking whatsoever. Unfortunately for someone who is that close-minded he is going to go into lock-step with every other like-minded individual in his country, which would mean the loss of the United Kingdom as a political entity within a few years time. In his case, he is more concerned with picking a fight with the users of a small American conservative website then he is with what he and his kind are allowing to happen in Britain, namely the Islamic takeover. As a leftist, he probably feels he can get along with them in the name of diversity and multiculturalism, but when all is said and done he will either be forced on his hands and knees with his butt high in the air, or he'll have his head chopped off.  &lt;br /&gt;
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Unfortunately, some people think they're so better than others that they've blinded themselves to what they're actually doing. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 04:35, 4 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Karajou, if you look at my comment to his talk page, you will see that I am giving him an opportunity to show that he can be open-minded and reasonable by writing on two topics related to atheistic communism persecution of Christians/religious (namely [[Christian persecution in communist China]] and [[Anti-religious propaganda in the Soviet Union]]) via two quality articles of at least 2,000 words.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:38, 4 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anti-Christian bias in Wikipedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello 1990'sguy. Am I being hypersensitive or is Wikipedia's anti-Christian bias increasing?  For example, the recent dispute about content at Answers in Genesis.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAnswers_in_Genesis&amp;amp;type=revision&amp;amp;diff=810473662&amp;amp;oldid=810471171] I see also that User:Synthetic Woolly Mammoth[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Synthetic_Woolly_Mammoth] has just been blocked, allegedly for being a sockpuppet of Biscuittin, but more likely because he has been speaking up in support of some Christian editors. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 05:27, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I know another editor who has extensively edited topics related to Christianity and atheism on WP, and he told me that the ati-Christian bias on the site was much worse back around 2012. The militant atheists don't have as much power as they did back then. However, the anti-Christian bias obviously is still very bad, especially on YEC topics, which I have been dealing with for years already. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:20, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Block length ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your alert block of new user &amp;quot;CPishilarious&amp;quot;, but I'm going to change the block duration from 2 years to 1 month.  Long blocks are disfavored on wikis because they block the IP address as well as the user.  The IP address could be a library or other general access IP address, or the user could move or be a college student, or the user could have a change of heart.  But thanks again for your quick action.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:11, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK, and you're welcome. I have seen blocked vandals come back with their same accounts after their blocks expire, so I wanted to protect against that. But I will shorten blocks like these in the future. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:54, 21 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks so much for your alert block this morning, but again the block duration is too long.  Another user could be trying to use that same IP address within a few months, or the user himself could have a change of heart.  I'll shorten it to 4 months.  Thanks!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:25, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Andy, it feels like I'm the only editor you're messaging about block length, ''even though my blocks are much shorter than most other editors.'' For example, just yesterday, I blocked two accounts for six months for having a silly username and for (relatively) non-serious vandalism, but shortly later, DMorris reset the blocks for 5 years. See here: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Bernieman][http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Hillary_clinton] If you're going (for good reason) to message me for my blocks, please do the same for the other editors who prefer even longer blocks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:33, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But yes, I will still shorten my blocks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:36, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggested article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Donald Trump and evangelicals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there would be public interest in such an article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:20, 9 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks. If I get time, I will start this article. I will add it to my list of articles to create. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:16, 9 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two things ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For one, why do you not have email enabled? Secondly, consider longer blocks for these obviously malicious accounts. You can block an account for infinity and the autoblock on the IP still only lasts 24 hours. There is no reason for these sleeper accounts to come back to life three months later. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 16:19, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In his defense, he was doing longer blocks until [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length|Andy started asking him not too]], then [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length_2|reminded him again]]. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:25, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yes, for crying out loud, why am I the only one being criticized for my block lengths? If I make my block lengths long, Andy posts on my talk page, and if I make my block lengths shorter, DMorris posts on my talk page.&lt;br /&gt;
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::DMorris, please talk to Andy about this. I will continue making my blocks on the shorter side until your differing opinions are sorted out.&lt;br /&gt;
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::About my email, I have my email address posted on my user page. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:46, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Articles of the year: 2017 - your article is being featured on the main page (left side) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Donald Trump achievements]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Keep up the good work.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:12, 24 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nationalism v Globalism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I went ahead and added a link to the Gardner article on the Nationalism v Globalism article for you.  I figured since we were referencing it, it would be good to see the original article too.--[[User:Whizkid|Whizkid]] ([[User talk:Whizkid|talk]]) 23:52, 7 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! I already saw and added it to other articles where I mentioned Gardner. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:53, 7 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Homeschooling==&lt;br /&gt;
I deleted the paragraph on Texas requirements (which I originally added) since it was duplicative of the information I added from HSLDA (which covers all 50 states) regarding state requirements.  I left the New Hampshire one since it involved a court imposing its will on a family in violation of state law.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm glad you liked my original work, but after finding something better and covering more than just one state, I amended my original work.  Though after your comments, I revised it to explain that another state court (Texas) made homeschooling far easier than before.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 17:22, 29 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:27, 29 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deep State==&lt;br /&gt;
I will agree with your removal of the word &amp;quot;theory&amp;quot;, but I did add the phrase &amp;quot;(or are believed to control)&amp;quot; because there are many conservative Christians who are not totally convinced that the deep state really exists.  I believe my edits will be a happy medium between those who hold to the deep state view and those who do not. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 15:11, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I kept most of your &amp;quot;is believed/considered&amp;quot; wording (except for the first sentence, which is unnecessary as the first sentence already makes clear that &amp;quot;deep state&amp;quot; is a term and not necessarily reality. I found most of your other changes to be too wordy and unnecessary, so I reverted some of it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:04, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I looked at your revisions and all you did was revert to your original article, with a few minor edits to try to convince me that you really took my suggestions into consideration.  Basically what you did to the article is like putting wood filler and new paint on a house with termite rot.  I've dealt with folks like you over on &amp;quot;the other site&amp;quot;, who think that once they write an article, it's perfect and can't accept any changes to it.  I'm not going to waste time with this one any more; clearly you're trying to espouse tinfoil hat conspiracy theory under the guise of &amp;quot;Christian conservatism&amp;quot;.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:22, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Much of your changes involved inserting parenthetical notes, which I think made the article more bloated than it had to be. The &amp;quot;or are believed to control&amp;quot; phrase in the first sentence was simply unnecessary and overemphasized your disbelief in the deep state. The part about Wall Street was cited to a good research article, so I don't think we need the &amp;quot;is believed&amp;quot; language for that. But I will still see if I can incorporate more of your edits.&lt;br /&gt;
:::About the existence of the deep state, it and the drive for one-world government are things that should be common and uncontroversial knowledge -- but people (both supporters and detractors) &amp;quot;conspiracize&amp;quot; these things and that's how accusations of me wearing a tinfoil hat come about. Look at the evidence -- most of our society (except theologically conservative Christians, most of them probably being premillennialist) accept the Idea of Progress, adopted during the Enlightenment Era. They believe that humanity is progressing for the better, and that this will lead to a one-world utopia with world peace and freedom for humanity (read Kant, for example). Thus, they believe that national identity, subsidiarity, and national sovereignty are growing useless and antiquated and actually are impediments to this utopia. This flows into their policies -- advancing international organizations, taking away national sovereignty, etc. As for the deep state, just look at the whole DOJ/FBI stuff going on right now, or the fact that Republicans and Democrats hire administration personnel from the same group of organizations -- CFR, Trilateral, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
:::The garbage that there is some secret conspiracy by liberals to take over the world, that their motives are malevolent, that they want to do evil, that this is a short-term project, and that the Illuminati is involved with all this -- this is all garbage perfectly fit for &amp;quot;the other site&amp;quot;. In reality, the drive for a one-world utopia is one of the fundamental philosophical views in our culture, and liberals openly see it as natural/normal/benign (and they're in it for the long haul). --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:04, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggested Name Change for [[Christmas and Easter Catholic]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
I propose changing this to &amp;quot;Christmas and Easter Christian&amp;quot;, since the phenomenon of persons attending church on those days is by no means limited to Catholics. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 16:17, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I disagree. I recommend that a separate article entitled &amp;quot;Christmas and Easter Christian&amp;quot; be created -- C&amp;amp;E Catholicism is a notable concept on its own right, enough to have its own article. I think an article on C&amp;amp;E Christianity in general would be a good addition. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:07, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::What's the difference?  Both are the same phenomenon -- &amp;quot;so-called&amp;quot; Christian believers who attend only during those two holidays (or weddings and funerals).  The current article is fine, it just needs to be revised to not pick on one branch of Christianity.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:17, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I've heard Roman Catholics specifically mentioned much more than other Christians when hearing about this &amp;quot;phenomenon.&amp;quot; But I will ask another editor of his opinion on this. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:32, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Campaign promises==&lt;br /&gt;
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The thought occurred to me that Wikipedia does not normally catalog campaign promises.(It never has, that I have seen)  Elections there follow a formula of &amp;quot;what did they actually do after getting elected&amp;quot; and election results - which is both boring and completely useless, because we have a big problem with people running for office one way and then governing another way.  This leaves a glaring hole of accountability with all of our politicians and it also offers us an opportunity to distinguish ourselves from Wikipedia.  What do you think about this?  I made a few changes [[Bruce Rauner|here]] as an example start.  [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 15:00, 4 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think your suggestion is a great idea -- we have too many politicians who make really great promises during election campaigns, but they later act like they never even made those promises. When Rauner and his GOP primary opponent (Jeanne Ives) sat down with the ''Chicago Tribune'' editorial board a few days ago, Rauner said that he never promised he would veto a major pro-abortion bill that he ultimately signed (he actually explicitly promised he would multiple times).[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/30/jeanne-ives-crushes-gop-gov-bruce-rauner-illinois-candidates-meet-first-time/][http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/31/conservative-jeanne-ives-rips-il-gov-bruce-rauner-abortion-flip-flop/]&lt;br /&gt;
:I can also think of Sen. Thom Tillis of NC who campaigned against amnesty in 2014 and is now advocating for a &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot; amnesty bill (though it's inferior to the Goodlatte bill).&lt;br /&gt;
:I support your suggestion. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 4 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I just wanted to ask you why you have removed [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Freedom_Party_of_Austria&amp;amp;diff=1403167&amp;amp;oldid=1403166 my entry] on the article of the Freedom Party of Austria. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreisky%E2%80%93Peter%E2%80%93Wiesenthal_affair Kreisky–Peter–Wiesenthal affair] is an important event in the history of this party that should not be discreeted.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 09:41, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:First off, the info was inserted right in the middle of a paragraph discussing the FPO's ideological development and alliance with the SPO. Your info was out of place.&lt;br /&gt;
:Second, the info was unduly wordy. I am sick of seeing the media and leftists do everything in their power to tie right-wing conservative parties like the FPO to Nazi Germany, such as by unduly emphasizing those aspects of the parties and calling them &amp;quot;far-right&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;extreme right&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;ultra-right&amp;quot;, etc. By American conservative standards, these parties are actually quite moderate, and for those of us who realize that Nazism is a vastly overrated threat (placed alongside climate change by the Left), such parties have clearly moved away from their pasts.&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't want our articles to accept the left-wing narratives of these right-wing populist parties. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:50, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, all the informations I have put in the article were confirmed with trustworthy sources. [[Simon Wiesenthal]] who accused the FPÖ leader Friedrich Peter of being part in a unit which committed massacres against jews, was himself a Conservative. Wiesenthal supported the (at that time very conservative) Austrian People's Party. So it is not easy to label his accusations as &amp;quot;left-wing narratives&amp;quot;. I am also pretty sure that the Conservative government of Israel does not spread &amp;quot;left-wing propaganda&amp;quot; if they criticize the party for its charged history. Instead of simply removing facts from the article, you might emphasize how the FPÖ moved away from its past.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 10:01, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Israel is a Jewish state, so issues related to the Holocaust are sensitive to them. But as much as I support Israel and its right-wing government, Israel's position toward the FPO is irrational, and they are unduly obsessed with Nazism like Western Europe is. Israel's opinion on the FPO means very little because of the context -- it's easy to offend Israel on matters like this.&lt;br /&gt;
:::About Wiesenthal, I don't know anything about him, but him supporting the OVP does not mean much to me. If the party were &amp;quot;very conservative&amp;quot;, why did it support the EU, Maastricht Treaty, Schengen Agreement, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
:::And yes, these are the narratives promoted by the Left, the establishment, and the media. These are the same people who were comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler during the election campaign and who tried to smear Breitbart News as anti-Semite (despite loads of evidence to the contrary), among many other cases. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:17, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Just because these &amp;quot;narratives&amp;quot; are promoted by the Left it does not mean that they are wrong. I can ensure you that Simon Wiesenthal was never a supporter of left-wing policies. As I already told you it would be better to emphasize the current measures by Strache to reappraise the controversial history of this party instead of denying it.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 11:20, 8 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They're wrong -- they overemphasize every small and petty incident related to parties like the FPO that allude to Nazi Germany. Their point in doing so is to make it seem like that if we elect these people/parties into power (including Donald Trump), we'll be repeating 1933 all over again and will usher in the end of freedom in Europe -- never mind that Germany is still enforcing the Nazi ban on homeschooling, or that many Western European countries have free speech restrictions even on topics like Islam and homosexuality, or etc. Conservapedia will not go along with the media -- we acknowledge that parties like the FPO are conservative and/or right-wing (not &amp;quot;far-right&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;neo-Nazi&amp;quot;) and the best choice in order to protect/expand freedom and protect European culture/patriotism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:58, 8 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Can you create this article: [[Donald Trump's major achievements]]? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:39, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This seems like a good idea, and I will do it. I won't do it immediately, since I have a lot of other things to do, but I will create it soon. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:54, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK. Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:18, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm very sorry about the article. If it make you feel like a advertisement. However, everything that is state is true. Thank you for your understanding. Pleased assist by make any corrections. That you think is necessary. When your time is most convenient. &lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for your message, but the article I deleted is not acceptable for Conservapedia. There is nothing I can do to change that, unless you receive coverage from good sources (Breitbart, Fox, etc.). I'm keeping the other article for now, since it's one I can imagine keeping, but I'm discussing it with other editors to see what to ultimately do about it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:00, 21 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you add some categories to my page please? [[User:Willow Smith|Willow Smith]] ([[User talk:Willow Smith|talk]]) 11:26, 22 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response to your complaints==&lt;br /&gt;
From what appears EVERY time someone creates a new page or edits an existing one:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Please note that all contributions to Conservapedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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If the real rule is &amp;quot;any contributions by Conservapedia administrators -- no matter how good, bad, or ugly they may be -- are fixed for all time and never to be altered&amp;quot;, then make that the rule.  But don't invite someone to improve things, then complain because they do.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 10:26, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Your bolding does not improve things. Also, nobody reverted your turning pages into redirects -- it's just a good idea to let people know before making major unilateral changes. If your complaint is that I'm messaging you about these things, then you have no real complaint at all. If you make edits here, you (like I was, and still am to an extent) are bound to be messaged about these things, which other editors do with the intention of improving others' editing. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:37, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Additionally, administrators and editors alike must watch the activity of others, especially newer editors.  A few people have the hobby of trying to vandalize CP in any way possible, so excuse us if we sound cynical or obstinate, but some &amp;quot;new users&amp;quot; are actually just the same vandals as always.  Since we don't really know you yet, we do our best to assume good intent, but can't afford to ignore what seems to be odd behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm sure you'll do fine, if you just listen to the recommendations of others and keep improving content.  Thank you for your efforts, and for understanding! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:16, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thank you for the intro==&lt;br /&gt;
Just wanted to say thank you for the welcome!  PS--Do you know what an eagle does when a storm approaches?  [[User:Bcarlin|Bcarlin]] ([[User talk:Bcarlin|talk]]) 20:34, 21 March 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Double standard article is now unprotected ==&lt;br /&gt;
1990sguy, I unprotected the [[Double standard]] article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:16, 3 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:43, 3 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Regarding the Whale article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello,&lt;br /&gt;
I would like to know what caused you to revert my edits to the Whale article, and what I could do in the future to avoid this.--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:23, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:First off, I did not revert everything -- not even close. I reverted what appeared to be unnecessary wordiness on your part, along with your insertion of evolutionist-favored terms (&amp;quot;evolutionary biologists&amp;quot; instead of &amp;quot;evolutionists&amp;quot;--believe it or not, but people who believe in a young Earth can be evolutionary biologists too). If you keep your wording as concise as possible and if you choose your wording while keeping in mind that this is a conservative-Christian encyclopedia (thus, using terms favored by conservatives and Christians), then you won't be reverted. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:10, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK, thanks for letting me know. I'll keep that in mind. I think I was correct about Darwin's views, though - could I reinstate that part?--[[User:Cetacean|Cetacean]] ([[User talk:Cetacean|talk]]) 23:23, 23 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Newton.png|thumb|200px|alt=Isaac Newton, cornerstone of the scientific revolution, based his research on the scientific authority of the [[Bible]].|thumb|[[Portrait]] of [[Isaac Newton]], cornerstone of the [[scientific revolution]], based his research on the scientific authority of the Bible.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' is how the [[Bible]] shows a comprehension of [[science]] far ahead of its time. The Bible is a superb roadmap to future scientific discoveries. Unfortunately [[Bible denier]]s, including many [[Atheism|atheist]]s and [[evolution]]ists, refuse to read the Bible, and '''''their irrational [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|closed-mindedness]] against the Bible obstructs the advancement of science'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Book of Genesis]] gives [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge#Anesthesia|an example of anesthesia]] long before man discovered it in 1846.  And the underlying chaos and [[uncertainty]] in the physical world was explained in the Bible long before [[quantum mechanics]] confirmed it in the 1900s.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' has an additional benefit: it guides a more precise translation of verses that describe scientific-related events, such as the reference to the universe in [[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10]], and the changing of [[Essay:Water into Wine|water into wine]] at the wedding feast.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Geology==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Massive flooding===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheist scientists long opposed a [[young earth]] [[creation|created]] by [[God]] where cataclysmic flooding, such as the [[Great Flood]] described in the Bible, shaped the landscape. However, ample [[counterexamples to an old earth]] exist and the discovery in the Northwest of &amp;quot;giant ripple marks, 50 feet high and 200-500 feet apart&amp;quot; proved that a cataclysmic flood in the region had indeed occurred thousands of years ago. As a result, &amp;quot;[a]mong geologists, the concept of a catastrophic flood came to be universally accepted by the late 1950s.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iafi.org/floods.html The Ice Age Flood Institute reports on the massive floods in the Northwest.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continental drift===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Continental drift]] was  proposed by [[creationist]] Antonio Snider-Pellegrini in 1859 based on [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis 1:9-10]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c001.html Christian Answers explains Antonio Snider's divine inspiration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which states, {{cquote|And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.&lt;br /&gt;
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.}} Because land is no longer all in [[Pangaea|one place]], this implies that the continents have shifted over the six millennia to their current positions. [[Atheists]] and [[scientist]]s who hadn't seen the light of [[creationism]] were in [[liberal denial]] about this concept for a century, until finally accepting its truth. This is just more data that the Bible knew millennia before [[secular]] [[science]] caught up.&lt;br /&gt;
However, The Continents are still connected; under the ocean is land if you dry up the water. This interpretation of this verse is in error, the separation spoken of here is the waters under the sky (Firmament) and the water out in space (beyond the heavens). Comets prove this theory, as many of them contain ice, and today as much as 1% of terrestrial rain comes from extraterrestrial sources.{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}&lt;br /&gt;
The most likely reason for the current position and shape of the land mass is the Flood of Noah. Pangea does not work without flipping, shrinking, and sometimes removing countries entirely. Any Biblical statements of continents is in Genesis 10:25 when Peleg is mentioned &amp;quot;for in his days was the earth divided&amp;quot; this in particular refers to the separation of what today is Russia, Japan, and Alaska, when the oceans arose, and also to the division of the peoples by languages, who migrated together according to their language after the confusing of tongues at the tower of Babel, obviously the migration took place before the oceanic divide which led to the natives of the Far West. Everyone laughed at Columbus, not because they thought earth was flat, but because they had forgotten the Far West (America) was there, and they thought he didn't have nearly enough supplies or a big enough ship to go to Asia the long way around, and they would have been right if he didn't hit the Caribbean first by complete accident. Recent findings of biblical stone tablets, in Byzantine script prove that trade between Europe and the Far West was common prior to the dark age which began in 400 or 500 AD.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Underwater springs===&lt;br /&gt;
Only in modern times have scientists become aware of the enormous underwater springs feeding into the oceans, and the very deep valleys at the bottom of the oceans. However, the Bible repeatedly described this thousands of years earlier in [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 7|Genesis 7:11]], which states, {{cquote|In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.}} Again, in 2 Samuel 22:16, the Bible states that, {{cquote|And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.}}&lt;br /&gt;
And Job 38:16 “Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? Or hast thou walked in the search of the depths?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is ''obvious'' proof to all but [[liberals]] that the Bible had foreknowledge of subcrustal oceans, something the ancient Jews could not have possibly known, and thus proof of the Bible's God-given accuracy and divine nature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Agriculture==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Malthusianism===&lt;br /&gt;
Since Thomas [[Robert Malthus|Malthus's]] 1798 work, ''An Essay on the Principle of Population'', [[liberal]] [[intellectual]]s insisted that the world's population would grow faster than the [[food]] supply and result in mass starvation. However, there are examples in both the [[Old Testament|Old]]{{citation needed|date=September 2015}} and [[New Testament]]s{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}, as well as the example of [[William Bradford]] at Plymouth Colony,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book|last1=Bradford|first1=William|title=The History of Plimoth Plantation|date=1669|pages=135–136}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of the food supply increasing to be more far plentiful than expected, mostly due to faith in [[God|God's]] powers and use of [[conservative]] [[economics]]. Indeed, in modern times [[obesity]] is far more prevalent and harmful than [[hunger]] worldwide, and food production far exceeds the ability to consume even in impoverished nations. Hunger remains a problem only in places with [[liberal]] and/or [[leftist]] political systems that impede food distribution or destroy the [[free market]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Psychogenic hematidrosis ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Psychogenic hematidrosis, which is sweat turning into blood, happens rarely but in the cases it does happen, it usually happens with death row inmates.  In 70 percent of all studies that document this condition, the condition occurs in death row inmates.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjXMsq6SscA Police Detective Examines the Resurrection of Jesus becomes Christian]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus sweat blood (Luke 22:44). The early church was puzzled by the account of Jesus sweating blood given in Scripture and they didn't know what to make of it.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Pleural effusion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The early church was puzzled by the blood and water that came out of Jesus' side when the soldier plunged his spear into him. The blood was not a problem in their understanding, but the water was. Medical science can now explain the water coming out of Jesus' side as being the result of pleural effusion.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Flood ice mummy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The building of the ark.jpg|thumb|The building of the Ark by Bertram of Minden, ancient [[German Painting]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
According to the Bible, a [[Great Flood]] occurred around 3300 B.C., or about 5300 years ago. It involved a cataclysmic rainstorm of a magnitude never seen before or since. For centuries [[atheist]]s and [[liberals]] have mocked it, claiming that it was impossible. However, in 1991, an &amp;quot;ice mummy&amp;quot; was discovered in the [[Alps]]. Scientists located a remarkably preserved ancient body, including even the contents of his last meal, which was due to an extraordinary ice storm. By radiometric [[carbon dating]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nupecc.org/iai2001/report/B44.pdf Radiocarbon dating of the Iceman Ötzi with&lt;br /&gt;
accelerator mass spectrometry&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the scientists discovered that this massive ice storm occurred 5300 years ago, which perfectly matches the Biblical Great Flood.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/icemummies/iceman.html PBS on the &amp;quot;Iceman&amp;quot; in the Alps&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is obvious proof of the Great Flood, as no natural occurrence could possibly explain how somebody came to be preserved by ice in the [[Alps]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest Living Organism===&lt;br /&gt;
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Bristlecone pine trees in California's White Mountains are the oldest living unitary organism.  As predicted by the Bible, they are not as old as 6,000 years but are as old as 5,000 years,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/worlds-oldest-living-things-23385913/image-23386256&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; roughly the time of the [[Great Flood]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===False theories===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus' recognition that the truth would remain hidden from arrogant &amp;quot;intellectuals&amp;quot; while simultaneously revealed to humbler, [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|more openminded]] people. This foreshadowed the creation of theories to pull self-centered intellectual wannabees away from [[God]], such as the [[Theory of Evolution]], the [[Theory of Relativity]], the [[homosexual agenda]], the [[secular]] culture of [[abortion]], [[Communism]], and countless other [[liberal]] and atheistic ideas and ideologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Mankind remains extant===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible predicts that the end of [[mankind]] will not occur by chance, but rather at a time known only to God. Despite the extinction of many species each year throughout history, the expectation by scientists that Earth would have been hit by chance by a massive, extinction-causing meteor, and laws of probability that predict other immense catastrophes, mankind continues and Christianity grows just as Jesus predicted.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Construction of ancient sky-high structures===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible—the [[Book of Genesis]] chapter 11—explains how ancient people arrogantly sought to construct a sky-high &amp;quot;[[Tower of Babel]]&amp;quot; to try to reach [[Heaven]].  Then, in the 1900s, archaeologists discovered the great ziggurat of ancient Ur, located in present-day southern Iraq, having characteristics similar to the biblical description of the Tower of Babel.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bible-history.com/babylonia/BabyloniaThe_Ziggurat.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hometown of Goliath===&lt;br /&gt;
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1 Samuel 17 of the Bible discusses the giant Goliath from a Philistine city named Gath, located in central Israel. In July 2015, archaeologists discovered its entrance in an excavation that began in 1899.  They also uncovered evidence of a massive earthquake that occurred in the eighth century BC, as described in the biblical book of Amos.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiantoday.com/article/gates.to.goliaths.city.discovered/61124.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Effect of Deafness on Speech===&lt;br /&gt;
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For 2000 years after [[Christ]], scientists overlooked the close connection between hearing and speech, and the brain, and are just starting to discover this now.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zdnet.com/article/deafness-can-have-unexpected-consequences-on-speech-patterns/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  But [[Jesus]] illustrated the connection when he cured a problem with speech primarily by opening someone's ears, after which the man &amp;quot;spoke plainly.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mark 7:34-35 ([[ESV]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Common DNA===&lt;br /&gt;
[[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 1|John 1:3]] explains that &amp;quot;All things were made by Him; not one thing was made without Him.&amp;quot;  If something had been made without Him then creatures would exist that had completely different DNA from other creatures.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Psychiatry===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jesus Christ]] and [[Christianity|Christendom]] have emphasized the important of forgiveness and in the last few decades mental health specialists have increasingly seen the importance of forgiveness to alleviate anger/depression/bitterness and other emotional problems within individuals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2755173/ Indian J Psychiatry. 2009 Apr-Jun; 51(2): 153–156. doi:  10.4103/0019-5545.49459, PMCID: PMC2755173, ''Forgiveness: A note for psychiatrists'' by Prakash Gangdev]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Modern medicine now realizes that obsessing with one's past is a big cause of psychiatric problems.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-flux/201104/5-ways-find-closure-the-past&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Jesus had the same insight 2000 years earlier: &amp;quot;No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the [[kingdom of God]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luke 9:62 ([[ESV]]).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Atheism and anger]] and [[Atheism and bitterness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Bible and health practices ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[The Bible and health]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Max Neuberger, writing in his &amp;quot;History of Medicine&amp;quot; states concerning the Mosaic laws: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The commands concern prophylaxis and suppression of epidemics, suppression of venereal disease and prostitution, care of the skin, baths,[17] food, housing and clothing, regulation of labour, sexual life, discipline of the people, etc. Many of these commands, such as Sabbath rest, circumcision, laws concerning food (interdiction of blood and pork), measures concerning menstruating and lying-in women, and those suffering from gonorrhoea, isolation of lepers, and hygiene of the camp, are, in view of the conditions of the climate, surprisingly rational.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Blood clotting on the eighth day===&lt;br /&gt;
In Genesis 17:12, God mandated that Abraham circumcise his sons on the 8th day after birth.  In 1935, it was discovered that Vitamin K, together with prothrombin, causes blood coagulation, (important in any surgical procedure).  On the 8th day, the amount of prothrombin present is elevated above 100% of normal and is therefore the only day in the male’s life in which this will be the case (normally). If surgery is to be performed, day 8 is the perfect day to do it as vitamin K and prothrombin levels are at their peak.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Lifespan===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible puts the maximum lifespan for man at 120 years (Genesis 6:3), the typical lifespan at 70 years and the typical for a good-living person at 80 years (Psalm 90:10).&lt;br /&gt;
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Thousands of years after that was written, despite immense advances in medicine and technology, these figures remain remarkably accurate.  The longest modern recorded life of a man is precisely 120 years (Shigechiyo Izumi), the average lifespan for a man is roughly 70 years, and the average for a good-living man is about 80 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jeanne Calment]] lived to age 122, only two years past 120. She was said to have never worked and used olive oil on her skin, outliving all of her [[feminist]] counterparts.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest human ancestor===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible suggests that the oldest maternal ancestor &amp;amp;#8212; [[Eve]] &amp;amp;#8212; first lived slightly more than 6000 years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The mutation rate of [[mitochondria]] indicates roughly the same date for the most recent common human ancestor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creationwiki.org/Mitochondrial_Eve_lived_only_6500_years_ago_%28Talk.Origins%29&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Anesthesia===&lt;br /&gt;
The first surgical operation described in the Bible was the removal of a rib from [[Adam]], which was performed by first putting Adam into an unconscious,  &amp;quot;deep sleep-like trance.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 2:21]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This was the equivalent of anesthesia &amp;amp;#8212; thousands of years before anesthesia using inhaled ether was developed by William Morton in 1846.  Had scientists and physicians been more [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|openminded]] about Genesis 2:21 (perhaps they had considered it a miracle, and thus impossible for humans to achieve), they may have discovered anesthesia far sooner, and saved many more lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bloodletting hastens death===&lt;br /&gt;
At the time of Jesus and for centuries afterward, arteries and veins were thought to be filled with air, and blood was viewed as something to be used up rather than recirculate.  Bloodletting—the practice of intentionally draining blood from a patient—was common medical practice through the time of [[George Washington]], hastening his death prematurely for reasons not understood until years later.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/37212.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Most victims of crucifixion in Roman times languished on the cross for days. But the Bible describes how Pilate, who crucified many, was surprised at how quickly Jesus passed away. 2000 years later, scientific knowledge has advanced to understand that this was caused by his prior loss of blood during his scourging (being brutally whipped), a punishment typically given ''instead of'' crucifixion.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Homosexuality and disease===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible's prohibition against [[homosexuality]] predated knowledge about the [[Homosexuality and Health|many diseases and disorders associated with homosexuality]], and thus showed scientific wisdom prescient for its time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eyesight===&lt;br /&gt;
The description in the [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Gospel of Mark 8:24]] for the sensation when one's eyesight is restored includes his perception of &amp;quot;trees walking.&amp;quot; This perception was first confirmed nearly 2000 years later as physicians developed medical techniques for restoring eyesight.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This newspaper account is not specific but describes the overall sensation of restored sight: [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-138886/Robot-eye-restore-lost-sight-20-years.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Maximum human height===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheists thought the size of [[Goliath]] in the Bible to be absurdly large (over nine feet tall), until [[Robert Wadlow]] grew to nearly 9 feet tall and was still growing when he died at a young age in 1940.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Leprosy===&lt;br /&gt;
Although leprosy is not as contagious as other infectious diseases, and some forms of it (such as tuberculoid or paucibacillary form are not contagious), Leviticus 13 and 14 set forth rules to prevent epidemics of this disease among the people of Israel.  Western science did not catch up until, in 1663, such laws were introduced in America in an attempt to curb an outbreak of smallpox.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hygiene===&lt;br /&gt;
Millennia before germ theory was proposed in the late 19th century, Leviticus 15 mandated hygiene laws that included bathing, washing of clothing, destruction of contaminated pottery and washing of hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 15:2, Jesus then curbed compulsive hand-washing by explaining why it was no longer typically necessary (in a non-farming, non-medical context) with respect to man's digestive system.&lt;br /&gt;
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It was common thought throughout history that infections and illness resulted from the digestive system, based on unclean hands or food.  Jesus rejected that view, and declared hand-washing before meals to be typically unnecessary.  It took many centuries before science caught up to the Bible on this.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is part of the Jewish kosher law to not eat milk with meat. In some Jewish homes they have separate refrigerators for meat and milk products. It comes from Deuteronomy 14:21 &amp;quot;...Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.&amp;quot; There is evidence that the body has difficulty digesting both meat and milk at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, as part of the Jewish kosher law a pork is on the list of prohibited foods. Under cooked pork can transmit Trichinosis, a parasitic disease that can infect muscle tissue, the brain, and the central nervous system, among other [[parasite]]s and zoonotic diseases.  [[Creation denial|Creation deniers]] can counter this point only with such desperate non-arguments as asking why God had to create trichinae at all and then allow them onto the [[Ark]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fetal Alcohol Syndrome====&lt;br /&gt;
Not discovered until 1973 by American physicians, fetal alcohol syndrome results from harm done to the unborn child in pregnancy due to the mother drinking alcohol.  The Bible, thousands of years earlier, forbade the mother of [[Samson]] from drinking alcohol while pregnant, so that he could become a powerful leader:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;3&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;The angel of the Lord appeared to her and said, “You are barren and childless, but you are going to become pregnant and give birth to a son. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;'''''Now see to it that you drink no wine or other fermented drink''''' and that you do not eat anything unclean. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, dedicated to God from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Judges 13:3-5 (NIV).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Animal Toxicity====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:David Macht.jpg|thumbnail|right||200px|Dr. David Macht]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 1953 Dr. [http://www.creationwiki.org/David_Macht David Macht], a Johns Hopkins researcher, conducted toxicity tests on many different kinds of animals and fish and concluded that the toxicity of Levitically [[Mosaic law and unclean animals|&amp;quot;unclean&amp;quot; animals]] was higher than that of the [[Mosaic law and clean animals|&amp;quot;clean&amp;quot; animals]], and that the correlation with the description in Leviticus was 100%.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht1&amp;gt;Macht, David I., MD. &amp;quot;[http://members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/Macht1953.pdf An Experimental Pharmacological Appreciation of Levitcus XI and Deuteronomy XIV].&amp;quot; ''Bulletin of the History of Medicine'' 27(5):444-450, September–October, 1953. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Macht's study in terms of classifying kosher and non-kosher animals matched the kosher classification performed by James W. Atz, Ph.D., Curator and Dean Bibliographer in the Department of Ichthyology of the American Museum of Natural History, NY, NY and Adjunct Professor of Biology, Graduate School of Arts and Science on New York University. Dr. Atz's list of kosher and non-kosher animals was published by the Orthodox Union in Kosher Guide and in the Orthodox Union Kosher Consumer Directory.&amp;lt;ref name=Atz&amp;gt;Atz, James W., contrib. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fish/ KASHRUT.COM - Kosher and Non-kosher fish]&amp;quot; Scharf Associates, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to a list of kosher and non-kosher fish published by the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, deciding what fish have scales, in the Orthodox Jewish community, appears to involve semantics as scales which are not visible to the human eye or scales that cannot be removed without tearing the skin are not considered &amp;quot;scales&amp;quot; in terms of the Torah law for determining which fish are kosher. It appears that Jewish religious authorities do appeal to well known Torah commentators.&amp;lt;ref name=Goldberg&amp;gt;Goldberg, Chaim. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fishfaq/ Consumers’ FAQ’s on Kosher fish].&amp;quot; Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, 2004. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Also, Dr. Macht's classification of swans as kosher is in accordance with the research done at Ohr Somayach Institutions in Jerusalem, Israel.&amp;lt;ref name=ask1&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://ohr.edu/ask/ask210.htm Ask the Rabbi - Are swans kosher]?&amp;quot; Ohr Somayach Website, Ohr.edu, October 24, 1998. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, Dr. Macht states in the peer reviewed journal ''Science'' that the toxicology test he used was a reliable method for detecting zoological toxins as it was a toxicology test sensitive to these type of toxins, and therefore one could conclude it was also suitable for testing the toxicity levels of fish, meat, and poultry.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht3&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. , Science 1930, 71 :302&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (The toxicological method that Dr. Macht used was also cited in the Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht2&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. and Macht, M.B. ''Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine'' 1941, 26: 597&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) In addition, Dr. Macht was an expert in cobra venom, which is a zoological toxin. Macht's conclusions, however, were challenged by three of his science community peers in a Seventh Day Adventist publication although one partially affirmed his study.&amp;lt;ref name=Harris&amp;gt;Harris, Lester E., Jr. &amp;quot;[https://archive.is/20070709234205/members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/web/ministry-1954-March-p37.htm This Question of Unclean Meats].&amp;quot; Ministry Magazine, March 1953, p37-38. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This was partly due to a likely unfamiliarity with what food is kosher and non-kosher. Also, perhaps they were unfamiliar with the toxicity test Dr. Macht used, and its apparent effectiveness in testing zoological toxins.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the short term, eating non-kosher food often appears to have no dramatic ill effects in general. For example, the Arabs, who do not eat kosher, consider camel to be a delicacy. Clearly, non-kosher Arabs do not fall dead right after eating camel meat. However, the long term optimality of eating clean versus unclean meat is an unanswered question of science. Also, eating non-kosher foods clearly has some nutritional benefit. For example, shrimp and pork contain protein. The New Testament declares, {{Bible quote|For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5|version=NKJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In regard to the aforementioned verse, it could be argued that prayer does sanctify food. The Bible has plenty of verses regarding God's protection. Also, it could be argued that the benefits outweigh the costs in all foods and thus all food is good. Clearly there is  some nutritional goodness in foods that the Torah declared unclean (for example, shrimp has protein).  What foods are optimal from an empirically tested science viewpoint is often controversial. In short, in regard to eating strictly a kosher diet versus a non-kosher diet, science has no definitive answers at the present time. From a Christian theological point of view, it could be argued that food should not be an impediment to anyone making a decision to become a Christian. It should be noted that orthodox Christian believers in Biblical scientific foreknowledge believe that Christians can eat the food that was declared unclean in the Old Testament, and {{Bible ref|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5}} and {{Bible ref|book=Galations|chap=2|verses=7-16}} make this very clear.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to the aforementioned study testing kosher and non-kosher foods for toxicity levels, Macht developed evidence indicating that combining meat and milk tended to be more toxic than either foodstuff alone.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4&amp;gt;David I. Macht, Medical Leaves 1940; 3:174-184&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In addition, he compared conventional animal slaughtering versus kosher slaughtering and determined that kosher slaughtering produced less toxic meat.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 1985 study by Nanji and French found that there was a significant correlation between cirrhosis and pork consumption (Macht claimed that swine was more toxic than the animal meat the Bible called clean).&amp;lt;ref name=Nanji&amp;gt;Nanji AA, and French SW. &amp;quot;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&amp;amp;db=PubMed&amp;amp;list_uids=2858627&amp;amp;dopt=Abstract Relationship between pork consumption and cirrhosis].&amp;quot; ''Lancet'' 1985 Mar 23, 1(8430):681-3. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Modern pork production methods are different from ancient methods of raising pigs, so the result of this study might be hard to apply to the ancients or those who raise pigs by organic farming methods, without the use of hormones or antibiotics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jane Cahill reported in ''Biblical Archaeological Review'' that the toilets of a Jewish household in [[Jerusalem]] were examined and no [[parasite]]s or infectious agents were found.&amp;lt;ref name=Cahill&amp;gt;[http://cojs.org/cojswiki/It_Had_to_Happen,_Jane_M._Cahill,_Karl_Reinhard,_David_Tarler_and_Peter_Warnock,_BAR_17:03,_May/Jun_1991. It had to happen, Scientist Examines Ancient Bathrooms of Romans 586 B.C.] by Jane Cahill and Peter Warnock. BAR May/June 1991&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Today, some &amp;quot;alternative medicine&amp;quot; practitioners do not recommend pork to their patients. Their reasons include the possible content of hormones, antibiotics, and pesticides, and also the undiscriminating diet of the pig. Joseph Mercola, DO, who has a private practice in alternative general medicine, writes:{{cquote|Pigs are scavenger animals and will eat just about anything. Their appetite for less-than-wholesome foods makes pigs a breeding ground for potentially dangerous infections. Even cooking pork for long periods is not enough to kill many of the retroviruses and other parasites that many of them harbor.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola&amp;gt;Mercola, Joseph, DO, ed. &amp;quot;[http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/07/12/are-there-deadly-superbugs-in-your-pork.aspx?source=nl Are There Deadly Superbugs In Your Pork]?&amp;quot; &amp;lt;http://www.mercola.com/&amp;gt;, July 12, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Mercola does not even recommend pasture-raised pork, because wild boars will often infect herds of pork with [[Trichinella spiralis]] or other parasites.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Feasibility of abiogenesis===&lt;br /&gt;
Although scientists dismissed ideas involving [[abiogenesis]], or the process from which life emerges from non-living material, as nothing more than archaic beliefs in [[spontaneous generation]], the Bible very clearly depicts an occurrence of this phenomenon, for beginning in Genesis 1:20, God creates life from nothing. It was not until the early 20th century that science finally began to accept the viability of abiogenesis, a view that the Bible had held for almost 2000 years, except that [[atheists]] falsely claim that abiogenesis is somehow possible without a creator. For addition information, please see [http://creation.com/origin-of-life origin of life]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Awareness while unborn===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Abortion]] advocates argue that it is ok to terminate a baby while dismissing the pain inflicted by ending an innocent life. They argue that a fetus cannot feel pain because senses are incomplete. There is a heart-beating human in the womb that can feel even though still unborn and developing. In modern times, we now know the baby in the womb is alert, aware of their mother's emotions, recognizes voices, responds to stimuli and music. The Bible tells us the baby feels (1 Luke 44), ''&amp;quot;the babe leaps for joy in Elizabeth’s womb at the sound of Mary’s voice.&amp;quot;'' The inwomb developing baby, John the Baptist, notices the presence of the unborn [[Lord]] in [[Mary]], and is excited. In addition (St. Paul to the Galatians 1:15), ''&amp;quot;God… from my mother’s womb had set me apart and called me through his grace.&amp;quot;'' Paul's very first thought, feeling awareness, began while unborn.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Embalming===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mark 9-16 (Translated)#Chapter 14|Mark 14:3-8]] describes an embalming process to preserve a body after death, which was not discovered in the West until 1867.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Significance of blood===&lt;br /&gt;
The Old Testament teaches that the [[life]] of all flesh is its [[blood]] ({{Bible ref|book=Leviticus|chap=17|verses=13-14|version=KJV}}).  Secular science remained ignorant of the properties and circulation of blood until the 17th century A.D.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12_notes.htm Net Bible: Notes] to [http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12.htm#1234 Deuteronomy 12:23] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Menstruation===&lt;br /&gt;
The Biblical laws concerning [[menstruation]], including the setting apart of the menstruating woman and the prohibition on intimacy during menstruation, address health concerns that were not known to secular science until the 20th century.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Also, modern science has only very recently discovered that following such rules dramatically reduces the rate of illegitimacy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120604182027.htm How Religion Promotes Confidence About Paternity]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cloning===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bible ref|book=Genesis|chap=2|verses=21-22|version=KJV}} records that God made a [[woman]] out of one of [[Adam]]'s [[rib]]s.  Secular scientists did not believe that [[cloning]] such a complex organism (apart from plants) was possible until 1997.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml Cloning Fact Sheet] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It should be noted, however, that this is not strictly 'cloning' as a clone would be identical to its original, most obviously in terms of its sex.&lt;br /&gt;
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Women have the same X chromosome as men, but this was not discovered until the late 1800s.  The Book of Genesis explained this thousands years earlier, describing how the first woman was created directly from man.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inbreeding===&lt;br /&gt;
Leviticus 18:7-11 elaborates in detail the relationships it regards as incestuous unions, to forbid inbreeding. Only in modern times has secular science caught up and been able to scientifically explain the harm to future generations of inbreeding.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Distance of Oldest Star to Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Genesis implies that the distance of the oldest star to Earth is how far light would travel during the age of mankind: about 6000 light-years.  In 2014, a team of researchers discovered that the oldest star is indeed only 6000 light-years away.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/6012/the-oldest-star-in-the-known-universe&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Planet formation===&lt;br /&gt;
Theories of an old universe insisted that planet formation did not occur until long after the origin of the universe, contrary to the [[Book of Genesis]].  It was not until 2012 that atheistic scientists recognized and reported that planets formed at the &amp;quot;dawn of the universe,&amp;quot; within a billion years of the universe's formation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0330/Planets-found-at-dawn-of-universe-but-their-existence-is-a-mystery&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Extraterrestrial life===&lt;br /&gt;
For most of the 20th century, scientists typically believed in the existence of extraterrestrial life, despite the lack of any reference to it in the Bible. After spending many billions of dollars looking for such life, and investigating countless reports of UFOs, no such life has been found.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Starlight Problem===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Starlight Problem]] confounds atheistic theories about the universe:  light has reached us from stars that are too far away to transmit the light within the age of the universe.  But the Book of Genesis explains this easily:  &amp;quot;let there be light&amp;quot; means that God created light, not merely stars. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly refers to the number of stars as being innumerable,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''See'' Genesis 15:5, Jeremiah 33:22 and Hebrews 11:12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; despite scientists insisting throughout most of history that there were only about 6000 stars. In the early 17th century [[Galileo]] turned a telescope to the heavens and discovered a great number of stars that had been previously invisible to the naked eye.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://galileo.rice.edu/lib/student_work/astronomy95/orionpleiades.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Not until the 20th century did scientists discover the tremendous number of stars:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/07/22/stars.survey/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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But even that scientific estimate was much too low.  On December 1, 2010, scientists admitted:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/1201/Universe-might-hold-three-times-more-stars-than-previously-thought&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;a cosmic embarrassment of riches – ''the universe appears to hold three times the number of stars many [[astronomer]]s might have estimated only a year ago''.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Although the use of telescopes to chart the outer-reaches of God's heavenly creation was developed around the 16th century in Europe, the Bible accurately hypothesized that every star is unique.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spherical Sun and Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
The Book of Isaiah establishes that the true shape of the earth is a sphere:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|He sits above the sphere of the earth, and its inhabitants look to him like grasshoppers.  He stretches out the galaxies like a curtain, spreading them out like a tent to live under: - [[Isaiah 34-42 (Translated)#Chapter 40|Isaiah 40:22 (CBP]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Isaiah was written circa the 8th century BC, and the Book of Proverbs even earlier.  This was centuries before Greek philosophers, beginning with [[Pythagoras]], theorized the earth was round, and it was not discovered until 2012 that the sun is perfectly spherical.  Astronomers were not able to conclude until well into the second millennium of [[Christ]] that the Earth is also a sphere.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earth free floating in space===&lt;br /&gt;
The book of Job states that God &amp;quot;hangs the [[Earth]] on nothing.&amp;quot; It also contrasts with Greek Mythology's belief that [[Atlas]] holds up the Earth, or ancient Hindu and Native American myths that the Earth was on top of a gigantic turtle.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible presaged the modern view that space is in fact empty, which wasn't known until the dawn of the 20th century when ether theories became disfavored.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cosmic Background Radiation===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis Chapter 1]] explains that God created light first, rather than merely stars.  A &amp;quot;big bang&amp;quot; would result in light everywhere, without darkness, and without ripples in cosmic background radiation.  Yet in the 21st century ripples were discovered in cosmic background radiation, which can only be plausibly explained by recognizing that light was created first.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Meteoroids===&lt;br /&gt;
The Revelation of Saint John notes, &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. Revelation 8:8-9 (KJV)}}&lt;br /&gt;
This accurately describes meteoroids, essentially large chunks of rock lit on fire by the shock of entering the earth's atmosphere.  They were not discovered until 1801, and their composition was not otherwise known until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Stellar proper movement===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Job]], a list of challenges are constructed in the form of questions, with the idea that man can't do it, but God can. Among these challenges, two are remarkable: one mentions the ''untying'' of Orion's belt, and the other is the ''binding'' of the Pleiades. Only recently, astronomers could measure the proper movement of those stars; Orion's belt is moving apart, with each star going in a different direction, while the Pleiades are moving together.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Space flight===&lt;br /&gt;
Many theorize that the book of [[Ezekiel]] contains descriptions of spaceships and rockets, as they would have been described by someone thousands of years ago. [http://www.spaceshipsofezekiel.com/ Author Blumrich] has even published an entire book about this.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Expanding universe===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible explains, in 17 different verses, that God &amp;quot;stretched out&amp;quot; the heavens,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.creationists.org/God-streched-out-the-universe-bible-verses.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in other words, expanding the fabric of space-time from a smaller size to a much larger one. Scientists have discovered only in the last 100 years that, by studying the red shift of galaxies, the universe indeed appears to be expanding, or &amp;quot;stretching out.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Water cycle, and the Six days of Creation Week===&lt;br /&gt;
The existence of the water cycle was widely unknown to pagan people's until imperial Roman times. But the Bible described the water cycle over a thousand years before that. In general, see [[Ecclesiastes]] 11:3, [[Job]] 26:8 and [[Amos]] 9:6.&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be a more Biblically central reference to the water cycle: The reports in Genesis 1 of five things that God names (v. 5=two, v. 8=one, v. 10=two) seem to be consistent with five basic features of the geophysical half of Earth's life-support cycle. In Earth sciences, it is known that the total life-support cycle is irreducibly complex in relation to Earth's distance to the Sun, and this complexity maintained on an order of mere days' reserve: flora and fauna are interdependent, their interaction is necessary for the maintenance of the atmosphere, and if any one of those five features suddenly ceased, Earth would fail to support life in a matter of days.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Immense power within atoms alluded to in 2 Peter chapter 3 ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Abomb.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|The [[atomic bomb]] that was dropped on [[Hiroshima]] unleashed the equivalent of about 15 kilotons of TNT.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The immense power within atoms is alluded to in the Bible in 2 Peter chapter 3.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|John Phillips notes that Peter’s prophecy of a great, end-times conflagration of the earth and its atmosphere uses precise terminology that accurately describes a nuclear explosion. Liddell and Scott’s Lexicon define the “elements” as “the components into which matter is divided” (or atoms), and the term “dissolved” comes from the basic Greek word meaning to “loose” that which is bound (as in nuclear fission). The term “great noise” is found nowhere else in the New Testament and signifies “a rushing sound of roaring flames.” The term “fervent heat” is derived from a Greek medical term denoting a fever. But Peter’s use of it in application to inanimate objects is the only such known usage anywhere in Greek literature. Thus, Phillips observes, “Peter describes in accurate terms the untying of the atom and the resulting rushing, fiery destruction which follows it.”&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Impossibility of a Grand Unified Theory===&lt;br /&gt;
Billions of dollars and millions of hours have been wasted by scientists in futile pursuit of a &amp;quot;grand unified theory&amp;quot; for physics.  But [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis]] explains that the creation of light was done in a separate, initial creation, free of darkness or entropy, and thus incapable of theoretical unification with matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Light and color===&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the work of [[Isaac Newton]], white was considered to be the fundamental color of light, and other colors (such as red, green and blue) were formed by adding to white light.  Under that traditional theory, the fullness of all light (a combination of all colors of light) would result in something other than pure white.&lt;br /&gt;
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The transfiguration of Jesus is described with remarkable consistency in all three synoptic [[Gospel]]s: in the fullness of light Jesus and his clothing display an intense white, whiter than any bleach could produce.  This illustrates what was not discovered and accepted until nearly 1700 years later: that white is the combination of other fundamental colors, and the purest white light is formed by a perfectly full combination (see [[Prism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Action-at-a-distance===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Jesus]] demonstrated [[action-at-a-distance]], as recounted in [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]].  Scientists, particularly [[atheists]], denied the possibility of this phenomenon for thousands of years.  When Newton proposed action-at-a-distance as the basis of gravity, scientists continued to reject it, but eventually accepted it as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later the [[Theory of Relativity]] again denied the possibility of action-at-a-distance, but [[quantum mechanics]] subsequently proved that it does occur.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also [[Counterexamples to Relativity]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Quantum mechanics===&lt;br /&gt;
The fundamental principle of [[quantum mechanics]] is that the underlying reality is in random fluctuation, or chaos, until there is intelligent observation of it.  This is precisely what [[Luke 1-8 (Translated)#Luke 4:6|Luke 4:6]] reveals when it quotes the [[devil]] in saying that he has dominion over this world.&lt;br /&gt;
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The world was an abyss of chaos at the moment of creation, as explained in the [[Book of Genesis]].  The order created by God is on a foundation of uncertainty.  The discovery of this in subatomic particles in the 1900s, known as quantum mechanics, confirms the nature of the world as described in Genesis.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff, Matthew 13:24-30, describes a fundamental uncertainty that does not resolve itself until there is observation over time.  The authenticity of a simpler explanation of this parable at Matthew 13:36-43 has been challenged.  The parable may refer to a profound and pervasive chaotic struggle between good and evil, or in quantum mechanics the uncertainty in position and energy.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Observation of the wave function====&lt;br /&gt;
The second chapter of the [[Gospel of John]] describes the conversion of water into wine by [[Jesus]] at a wedding reception. [[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 2|John 2:9]] states: &amp;quot;When the host of the wedding feast tasted the water, it had been made into wine.&amp;quot; This passage implies that the drink was not wine until it had been tasted, or observed. The drink was a superposition of the state of wine and the state of water until it was observed as wine.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 16:19, Jesus draws a then-unusual distinction between what is fixed and what is uncertain by declaring, &amp;quot;Whatever you make binding on earth will be binding in heaven, and whatever you set loose on earth will be set loose in heaven.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Matthew_10-19_%28Translated%29&amp;amp;oldid=870778#Chapter_16&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This may describe the fundamental uncertainty that continues unless and until there is human observation that then causes the wave function to collapse into a particular (&amp;quot;bound&amp;quot;) state.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle====&lt;br /&gt;
Both the Old and New Testaments refer to a fundamental [[uncertainty]] that requires observation to resolve, akin to the [[Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle]] discovered in the 1920s:&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;The earth came to exist in an utterly formless and empty state.&amp;quot; -- [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 1:2]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The master refusing to order the removal of the weeds sowed among the wheat because of the uncertainty in distinguishing between the two until later.&amp;quot; -- [[Matthew 10-19 (Translated)|Matthew 13:24-30]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Wave-particle duality====&lt;br /&gt;
Wave-particle duality, first discovered in the 20th century, allows for a particle to sometimes be subject to gravity and sometimes not.&lt;br /&gt;
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The wave-particle duality was described nearly 2000 years earlier in the Gospel account of Jesus walking on water: [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:45-54]].  A close reading of the passage reveals the wave-like (or light-like) characteristic of the walking on water:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:48-49]] (italics added).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|he walked on the surface of the lake and came to the boat, ''nearly passing it''.  But when they saw him walking on water, they thought it must have been ''a ghost'', and cried out.}}&lt;br /&gt;
In a more general sense, Jesus could be viewed as the &amp;quot;particle&amp;quot; and the [[Holy Spirit]] as the &amp;quot;wave&amp;quot; of God.  A fuller understanding of the [[Trinity]] could have opened the eyes of scientists much earlier to the fundamental wave-particle duality of nature ... '''''and still could'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Quantum tunneling====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Quantum tunneling]] is the ability of particles to move through energy barriers even though ostensibly impossible based on classical laws of mechanical physics.  This was not discovered by scientists until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus proved this was possible in [[John 15-21 (Translated)#Chapter 20|John 20:26]], when he appeared before the [[Apostles]] in a closed room with completely shut doors.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Classical relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
Romans 10:6-7: But the righteousness that is by faith says: &amp;quot;Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ down) 7&amp;quot;or 'Who will descend into the deep?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).&lt;br /&gt;
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Equating ascending into heaven to bringing Christ down is an example of the fact that there is no universal reference frame, and only relative speeds matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Modern relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Theory of Relativity]] denies the possibility of action-at-a-distance.  But several passages in the Bible, such as [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]] and [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)|Matthew 27:51]], describe simultaneous actions from afar.&lt;br /&gt;
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The list of [[Counterexamples to Relativity]] has grown recently, and modern experiments in quantum mechanics have confirmed action-at-a-distance.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Second Law of Thermodynamics===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Book of Genesis]] states that the darkness or chaos in the universe can never overcome the light, or order.  This same concept was not discovered in physics until the development of the [[Second Law of Thermodynamics]], which holds that heat (or order or light) always travels in the direction of cold (or disorder or darkness), and never in the opposite direction.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10-11]] explains that the universe shall &amp;quot;wear out&amp;quot; like a &amp;quot;garment&amp;quot;, centuries before the discovery of the physical law that [[entropy]] is always increasing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nature of air===&lt;br /&gt;
Until about 300 years ago, common knowledge believe that the air was &amp;quot;empty&amp;quot; and didn't weigh anything. But [[Job]] 28:25 states, &amp;quot;To establish a '''weight''' for the wind, And apportion the waters by measure&amp;quot; indicating that the divinely inspired author knew the air had substance and weight.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Conservative forces===&lt;br /&gt;
James 1:17 describes the electromagnetic forces (light) as having no &amp;quot;shadow of turning.&amp;quot;  Not understood for nearly 2000 years, this predicts that electromagnetic forces are [[conservative]] such that their [[line integrals]] over a closed loop are zero.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mathematics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See main article: [[Math and the Bible]]''&lt;br /&gt;
===Zero===&lt;br /&gt;
Mathematicians in Western Europe did not discover [[zero]] until many centuries after the Bible was written.  But there are hundreds of references to the concept of zero throughout the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Banach-Tarski Paradox===&lt;br /&gt;
The only miracle described in all four [[Gospels]] is the multiplication of loaves and fish by Jesus, thought for thousands of years to be a mathematical and physical impossibility.  But the 20th century discovery of the so-called [[Banach-Tarski Paradox]] proved a mathematical basis for creating identical copies of an object out of no extra material.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Axiomatization of Arithmetic===&lt;br /&gt;
The full set of axioms for integer arithmetic may be found in the Bible.  For example, [[Luke 9-16 (Translated)|Luke 12:52]] is a striking statement of the commutative law for addition: &amp;quot;For from this point forward there will be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.&amp;quot;  This understanding presaged both later attempts at the axiomatization of arithmetic by Peano and the development of [[abstract algebra]] in the 19th and 20th centuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Infinity===&lt;br /&gt;
Most thinkers scoffed at the concept of [[infinity]] for thousands of years, despite it being referenced in the Bible in many ways.  See, e.g., Psalm 147:4-6 (God's &amp;quot;understanding is infinte&amp;quot;); [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)#20:1|Matthew 20:1-14]] ([[parable]] of the wages for the workers in the vineyard); Matthew 16:26 (one's soul has an infinite value to him, and nothing else can be worth more).&lt;br /&gt;
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But [[Georg Cantor]], deeply inspired by [[Christianity]], established a logical foundation for infinity that revolutionized all of mathematics as a result, with his development of [[set theory]] to accomplish his goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Calculus===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible emphasizes the importance of limits as a key distinction between this world and God; Calculus consists of relying on limits to derive useful results.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.aiias.edu/ict/vol_27/27cc_225-239.htm Norie Grace Rivera-Poblete: &amp;quot;''God and Calculus''&amp;quot;], Institute for Christian Teaching Education Department of [[Seventh-day Adventist]], Prepared for the 27th International Faith and Learning Seminar held at Mission, Muak Lek Saraburi, Thailand December 3 – 15, 2000&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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James 1:17 states that the first and second derivatives of God's light (truth) is zero, more than 1600 years before calculus was discovered: &amp;quot;with [God] there is no variation or shadow of turning.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Shadow%252525252525252520of%252525252525252520Turning&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/no-variation-or-shadow-of-turning-calculus-in-the-bible/ Nathan Albright: ''&amp;quot;No Variation Or Shadow Of Turning: Calculus In The Bible&amp;quot;''], Blog-Entry, Feb 24, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Arithmetic with Negative Numbers===&lt;br /&gt;
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Negative numbers were not fully accepted by mathematicians until the 1800s,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nrich.maths.org/5961&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; including how a negative number dominates the result in multiplication with a positive number, to yield a negative outcome.  Yet Jesus' parable of the sower and the seed, in Matthew 13:1-23, Mark 4:1-8, and Luke 8:4-8, explained the same effect nearly 2000 years earlier.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Indeterminacy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that God is &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  See Job 5:9 (God &amp;quot;does great things and unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 26:1 (&amp;quot;God's Majesty Is Unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 36:26 (&amp;quot;Behold, God is great, and we know him not; the number of his years is unsearchable.&amp;quot;) Psalm 145:3 (&amp;quot;Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised, and his greatness is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Proverbs 25:3 (&amp;quot;As the heavens for height, and the earth for depth, so the heart of kings is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Isaiah 40:28 (&amp;quot;Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Romans 11:33 (&amp;quot;Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!&amp;quot;)' Ephesians 3:8 (&amp;quot;to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;All quotations are to the ESV of the Bible.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John 1:1 teaches that logic is part of God, and thus logic itself must also be &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  For many decades the finest mathematicians thought that the consistency of logic could be proven, until [[Kurt Godel]] (himself a frequent reader of the Bible) proved the indeterminacy, or &amp;quot;unsearchability&amp;quot;, of mathematics.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trolls===&lt;br /&gt;
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The existence of malicious trolls on the internet is difficult to understand, until one reads Matthew 13:24-30 - the Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crime===&lt;br /&gt;
Mark 4:22 says how nothing can be hid, neither can anything be kept secret. Empirical statistics show that the vast majority of crimes worldwide are solved.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Morality of animals===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 3:1-10]] explains that only humans understand good and evil, and clothe themselves because of it.  Repeatedly scientists have attempted to demonstrate that animals can understand morality also, but every attempt has failed.  No animal (other than humans) has ever been found that clothes itself. However, as limited case, animals do demonstrate altruistic behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Existence of dinosaurs===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Dinosaur]] fossils were not discovered until the 19th century, but the book of Job describes enormous creatures called behemoth and leviathan, the descriptions being similar to dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures.  It may also have referred to another similarly giant now-extinct species. Other dinosaur like creatures mentioned are the cockatrice and satyr &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/behemoth.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Killing methods of lions===&lt;br /&gt;
Until the 1970s naturalists believed that lions killed their prey by biting through the neck or by breaking the neck with a swat of a paw, while the Bible says that lions suffocated their prey. (Nahum 2:12) It was not until the 1970s that it was discovered that the [[Bible]] was correct.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BLions87.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Lions fit their mouth over the mouth and nose of their prey and hold it while it suffocates, in addition to other killing methods.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Giant sea creatures and Jonah===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Jonah (Translated)|Book of Jonah]] describes his survival in the belly of a giant sea creature for 2.5 to 3 days.  Scientists declared this to be impossible due to powerful stomach acids that quickly break down any material and the lack of breathable air inside marine animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010, scientists found the following materials intact in the belly of a gray whale that had died after being stranded on a Northwest beach:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/19/pair-sweat-pants-garbage-beached-whales-stomach/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, many sea creatures have gone extinct in the thousands of years since Jonah lived.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Gender of worker ants===&lt;br /&gt;
Proverbs 6:6-8 correctly states the sex of worker [[ant]]s (female), using the correct one of the two [[Grammar#Gender|grammatical genders]] available in Biblical [[Hebrew]].  Secular entomologists would not discover that fact until the 19th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=rzwSAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA6&amp;amp;dq=ant+undeveloped+female+worker+date:1700-1850&amp;amp;lr=&amp;amp;as_brr=0&amp;amp;as_pt=ALLTYPES#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false The study of medicine, Volume 5 By John Mason Good]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Harvester ants ===&lt;br /&gt;
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19th century [[Europe]]an naturalists were wrong about [[ant]] behavior - namely the issue of ants/harvesting (Harvester ants). The Bible was correct about ant behavior.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BWilliamsvsAnon71to73.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Hearing and snakes ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The scientific consensus and the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'' both indicated that snakes can't hear.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/snake-charming-and-bible-accuracy  Charmed, I’m sure!] by Calvin Smith&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ed5015.tripod.com/BCobra94.htm The Cobra and the Bible]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Bible said that snakes can hear. 21st century research showed that snakes can hear.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Vegetarian lion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The prophet Isaiah says that there will be a time when the [[lion]] will lay down with the lamb and the lion will eat straw like the ox (Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25). There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:8790lion-wont-eat-meat.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
David Catchpoole wrote at the website of [[Creation Ministries International]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|From 1946 to 1955, A female African lion, born and raised in America, lived her entire lifetime of nine years without ever eating meat.1 In fact, her owners, Georges and Margaret Westbeau,2 alarmed by scientists’ reports that carnivorous animals cannot live without meat, went to great lengths to try to coax their unusual pet (‘Little Tyke’) to develop a taste for it. They even advertised a cash reward for anyone who could devise a meat-containing formula that the lioness would like. The curator of a New York zoo advised the Westbeaus that putting a few drops of blood in Little Tyke’s milk bottle would help in weaning her, but the lioness cub refused to touch it—even when only a single drop of blood had been added.&lt;br /&gt;
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The more knowledgeable animal experts among the many visitors to the Westbeaus’ 100 acre (40 hectare) ranch also proffered advice, but nothing worked. Meanwhile, Little Tyke continued to do extremely well on a daily diet of cooked grain, raw eggs and milk. By four years of age she was fully grown and weighed 352 pounds (160 kg)...&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Westbeau’s observation of the lioness that ‘To condition her stomach she would spend an hour at a time eating the succulent tall grass in the fields’, is also a vivid reminder of the prophecies of Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25, ‘ … the lion will eat straw like the ox.’&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Linguistics==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Common descent theory===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[theory of evolution]] suggests that all languages are descended from a common ancestral language, and for a century (1860 to about 1960) scientists clung to that view.  But now most linguists identify many different families of languages that have no common ancestor, just as described in Genesis 11 with the [[Tower of Babel]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earliest Hebrew writings===&lt;br /&gt;
Skeptics have claimed that [[Hebrew]] writing did not exist before the 6th century B.C.  But a recent Israeli archaeological dig dated four centuries earlier, in the 10th century B.C., included an artifact found at Khirbet Qeiyafa in the Elah Valley.  This artifact contained a written inscription in Hebrew relating to &amp;quot;slaves, widows and orphans.&amp;quot; Haifa University Professor Gershon Galil noted that this disproves the theory that the Bible could not have been written before the 6th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2010/01/08/Bible-may-be-centuries-older-than-thought/UPI-21171262997765/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Economics==&lt;br /&gt;
===Poverty===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus stated that there will always be poverty,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Mark 14:7, Matthew 26:11 and John 12.8.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yet [[liberals]] repeatedly insist that poverty can be eliminated with more government spending.  Every attempt to eliminate poverty has failed just as Jesus predicted. In 1991 [[Ronald Coase]] won a [[Nobel Prize]] in [[Economics]] for the [[Coase Theorem]], which implies that government attempts to reduced poverty will interfere with efficient operation of the economy, and thereby reduce wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Socialism and Capitalism===&lt;br /&gt;
Ecclesiastes 5:18-19 says that [[capitalism]] is a gift from God:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God give the him: for it is his portion. Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Government and Politics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also [[Biblical political foreknowledge]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nation-state===&lt;br /&gt;
Ancient Israel, as described in the [[Old Testament]], was a [[nation-state]] and that model was not utilized again until thousands of years later, well after the Renaissance in Western Europe.  This model of a nation-state has become the modern standard worldwide.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Separation of Powers===&lt;br /&gt;
The separation of powers adopted successfully by the [[U.S. Constitution]] in 1787, with the legislative, executive, and judicial branches having separate authority and jurisdiction, was first described in the Old Testament.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Jeremiah 17:19 and Isaiah 33:22.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Liberal influence on the media===&lt;br /&gt;
The Third [[Three Temptations of Christ|Temptation of Christ]] is to bow down and worship the [[Satan]] in exchange for becoming ruler of the world.  The media plays that role and its influence is predictably liberal and anti-[[Christian]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Engineering==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge about these engineering developments has been proposed:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2191&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|automobiles (Joel 2:3-4); airplanes (Isaiah 31:5, also 40:31); submarines (Revelation 9:1-11); radio (Ecclesiastes 10:20); and television (Revelation 11:3-12)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Classical photography, using negative imaging, was predated by the [[Shroud of Turin]] with respect to the imaging on the Shroud likely due to the light of the [[Resurrection]]. The Shroud ([[Greek]]: σινδών - sindón)  is mentioned in three Gospels: Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46, Luke 23:53, while John 20:5-7 talks about a face cloth or napkin ([[Greek]]: σουδάριον - soudárion - perhaps the [[Sudarium of Oviedo]]), and a piece of fine linen ([[Greek]]: ὀθόνιον - othonion). The description by the eyewitness John implies that his sighting of the Shroud may have confirmed his [[faith]], though he doesn't mention its photograph-like image.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Calvin, who opposed the Catholic Church, wrote a book in 1543 criticizing all material evidence of Jesus and the martyrs.  In it he claimed that because the negative image on the Shroud is not described in the Gospels, it must not be authentic. [[John Calvin]]: ''Traité des Reliques'', Geneve 1543, translated by Valerian Krasinski: ''A treatise on Relics'', Edingburgh 1854&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alleged &amp;quot;contradictions&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge is an underpinning of creation science, and is widely credited by Christian scientists and apologists, including the organizations [[Creation Ministries International]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creation.com/modern-medicine Creation Ministries International on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Answers in Genesis]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i1/medicine.asp Answers in Genesis on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[CreationWiki]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creationwiki.org/index.php/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge  Bible Scientific Foreknowledge]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists and liberals unsuccessfully attempt to discredit the Bible based on science.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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===Value of Pi===&lt;br /&gt;
Two sections of the Bible (1 Kings 7, 23-26, 2 Chronicles, 4, 2-5) appear to indicate that the correct value of [[Pi]] is 3, whereas Pi is, in fact, an irrational number, equalling approximately 3.14159. Atheists, including [[Sam Harris]] and [[Richard Dawkins]], allege that this value indicates the fallacious nature of scripture.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://richarddawkins.net/articles/139 The Richard Dawkins Foundation, ''Reply to a Christian'', Sam Harris -]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, a simple explanation of the claimed &amp;quot;contradiction&amp;quot; is that the Bible records the ratio of the actual object which Hiram created, not that of a mathematical [[sphere]]. The claim that it was round all about does not equate to a claim that it was a perfect sphere, as atheists have claimed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Theology'', Volume 59, Issues 427-438,  Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge (Great Britain), London, 1956, p. 23&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, Pi to one significant digit is 3. Just because the measurement is given to only one significant digit, that does not mean it was precisely that amount.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;There are no instances in the Bible where fractions are used.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of course, since Pi is an irrational number, it would be impossible to give a truly precise measurement. Since decimal notation was not in use in Biblical times, there was no way to express Pi to greater accuracy in the language of the day.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bat as a bird===&lt;br /&gt;
A favorite [[evolutionist]] canard is that [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:13-19]] labels the [[bat]], a [[mammal]], as a [[bird]]. The [[KJV]] translation of &amp;quot;fowl&amp;quot; is simply incorrect, as the Hebrew term '' 'owph'' did not entail the &amp;quot;clade&amp;quot; of birds, but was a non-scientific category simply referring to ''any'' winged creature. A popular Jewish translation, used to explain the laws of keeping kosher, translates the term as &amp;quot;winged flying things.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Rabbits, coneys, and cud===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:5-6]], the Bible states, {{cquote|And the coney ''(or hyrax)'', because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.}} While rabbits do not, in fact, regurgitate food and re-chew it, they have the same jaw motions as animals that do&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/do-badger-and-rabbit-chew-cud&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and thus appeared as cud-chewing to the Jews of Moses's time. Atheists and liberals love to misrepresent this passage only because they are in [[liberal denial]] of the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Number of legs of insects===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:20-23]], the Bible states, {{cquote|All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the &lt;br /&gt;
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But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.}}While this may appear to indicate that insects have four legs (they have six), the passage is in fact referring to the manner in which the grasshopper moves. Grasshoppers have large back legs mainly used for jumping, and not for walking, which is when it uses its smaller four front legs. Thus, the ancient Hebrews were just describing things as they saw them, not according to scientific nomenclature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay:Rebuttal to Biblical scientific foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Biblical political foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christianity and Science]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Prodigal Son]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.creationwiki.org/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge Biblical scientific foreknowledge] by [[CreationWiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/10/scientific-consensus-and-evolutionary.html Jesus vs. the scientific consensus and evolution. Jesus wins!]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Ten of the Top Scientific Facts in the Bible&amp;quot;, Living Waters Films with Ray Comfort. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sMJMXDiH4]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;{{welcome}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for adding your edits, hopefully you'll become a regular contributor.  If I can help you out with anything let me know.  [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 19:45, 27 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:49, 27 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Account promoted to skip the Captcha requirement.  Thanks for your enlightening edits to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia]].&lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 19:37, 28 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:45, 28 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations and welcome.  You should be aware that people who edit at both CP and WP with the same user name are sometimes harrassed at WP as a result. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:11, 29 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thank you for the welcome and thanks for the heads up! I've already received some heat on Wikipedia for taking some unpopular positions and opposing the bias there, so it will be nothing new for me. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 29 July 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I saw your helpful addition to the article on Murder of Seth Rich, so I thought I would visit your talk page. How long have you lasted on the WickedPedia? I would be surprised that you would last long there, as I have found the WickedPedia incredibly intolerant and censorious, a pseudo-aristocracy with dominating bullies, biased enough for me to consider it a candidate for the Big T award (T in the Calvinist TULIP); i.e, total depravity! LOL I don't think you can do much on Wikipedia without being part of a group of old boys or buddies who work together.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 19:26, 23 August 2016 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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:Did you mean my Wikipedia talk page? I have been editing Wikipedia for almost three years already. A big reason why I've lasted so long there is because many of the topics I edit are not particularly controversial. However, you are completely right in your description of Wikipedia. I have seen firsthand the massive (and very visible) intolerance and bias Wikipedia has against conservatives, Christians, and anything that contradicts secular and humanistic (pseudo)&amp;quot;scientific knowledge&amp;quot;. I could probably write a book about all my criticisms of Wikipedia. I have been able to do some good work (I was able to bring the article &amp;quot;Electoral history of Ronald Reagan&amp;quot; to official &amp;quot;Good Article&amp;quot; status, and I created a few articles), but on other articles, like the Murder of Seth Rich, we cannot have much confidence on the quality and neutrality of those articles. I do applaud you, Thunkful2, for your excellent work on &amp;quot;Murder of Seth Rich&amp;quot;. It's awesome that at least one person can accurately present this story! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:35, 23 August 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I meant right here, this talk page -- I visited it after seeing your good edit.  No, I haven't gone to your talk page on the WickedPedia.  Thanks for the complement.  ([[User:Thunkful2|Thunkful2]] ([[User talk:Thunkful2|talk]]) 10:45, 24 August 2016 (EDT))&lt;br /&gt;
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:OK, got it. And thanks for your complement. :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:50, 24 August 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== References from Wikipedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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While it's not really plagiarism to copy a reference from WP, it just want to point out that you probably shouldn't do so unless you have read that source, and believe that it supports what is being said.  If you are reading the books you are referencing, that's fine--I just can't tell. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:33, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Oh, that's a good point. I actually did not read those books, I just wanted to cite something so I wouldn't be adding unsourced info to the article. Should I remove those references anyway? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:36, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It is a good idea to find references to support unsourced statements, but it is a little deceptive to cite something you haven't read.  To be entirely beyond reproach, removal probably would be best.  At this point though, I honestly don't know if I'd bother.  In my opinion, it's up to you.  No one else has said anything, so it might be okay to leave them, I'm just not sure. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 23:51, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::OK. I will do my own research and find other sources that I can use instead. However, it's getting late, so I will deal with that tomorrow. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:58, 8 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your account has been promoted to include blocking and overnight editing capability.  Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 00:30, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Congratulations! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:57, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Well done!  [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 01:06, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks all! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:21, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Excellent!  you did good keeping an eye on that vandal yesterday. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 14:52, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::Thanks, Progressingamerica, I appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:42, 29 September 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Reading the WSJ==&lt;br /&gt;
Re: [[Christoph Blocher]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Typically, when I want to read a WSJ article that requires subscriber sign in is to Google the headline and access the web page from a search engine instead of directly.  Most of the time this requires a clean browser tab, sometimes it needs to be done in a different browser.  Rarely, it requires a cookie clearing.  Just thought that information may be of help.  This even works with articles that are years old.&lt;br /&gt;
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As a last resort, see if its in the internet archive.(though, most articles I don't want that bad to keep trying)  But they're all good procedures to know.  Sometimes works for other news sites too, besides WSJ. [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 00:00, 10 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for the tip! That's what I will do. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:32, 10 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Your account has been promoted to include upload and rollback features.  Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 17:26, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:36, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations! Keep it up! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 19:31, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks David! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:43, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Move and unlock requests ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You can post your move and unlock requests to [[User talk:Karajou]]. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 22:30, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for the tip! It's getting late, so I will do that tomorrow. I appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:37, 13 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::You don't actually need any privileges to do a move. You can cut-and-paste from one lemma to another. For purposes of copyright law, the edit summaries must make it clear where the incoming material comes from. [[User:PeterKa|PeterKa]] ([[User talk:PeterKa|talk]]) 00:54, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Karajou blocked a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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People should not be judged in race on alleged sexuality. A proper critique of Karajou would be asking him about blocking a user who expressed views supporting the Presidential candidate who is not a sexual preditor.--[[User:Rodgerr|Rodgerr]] ([[User talk:Rodgerr|talk]]) 19:04, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:If you think you have been judged unfairly, you could have just emailed Karajou or webmaster@conservapedia.com (see [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Member Accounts]]). However, more than once, you decided to take the low route, calling him filthy, immature words [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Karajou&amp;amp;diff=1283494&amp;amp;oldid=1283491]. See [[Conservapedia:Avoid personal remarks]]. And why in the world did you do this? [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Coal_burning&amp;amp;curid=140922&amp;amp;diff=1283484&amp;amp;oldid=1283423] (for someone who apparently abhors Trump for the tape, your words seem just as bad) That, honestly, is shameful. I will note that the &amp;quot;Bringreaganback&amp;quot; account clearly violated [[Conservapedia:90/10 rule]]. Considering all this, it's quite clear you deserved the block. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:12, 14 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Mainpageleft ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In response to your good question about entries on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]], currently there are about 112 featured entries there, which are &amp;quot;reshuffled&amp;quot; periodically.  Do you have any suggestions about how that &amp;quot;team&amp;quot; of entries be improved, with respect to insight, influence, popularity, interest level, educational value, etc.?  It's a terrific mix of topics now but there is always room for improvement, particularly as the issues and interest in certain topics by the public inevitably shifts over time.  Thanks much for any suggestions you may have.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:46, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:An example:  &amp;quot;[[Underrated Sports Stars]]&amp;quot; is a solid entry, but should probably be replaced on [[Template:Mainpageleft|Mainpageleft]].  Do you have any favored, influential, insightful, potentially or already popular entry that you like, which you would recommend to replace it?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:55, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I do have a few suggestions. [[Murder of Seth Rich]] is probably the best suggestion, as it is very detailed and well sourced. Also, the Wikipedia article of the murder has been the victim of leftist bias (two times, within a month, editors have tried to delete the article, and with that failing, the article appears to have been stripped of much detail) which our article covers well. Other suggestions that I have are the [[Ark Encounter]] (a popular and influential attraction, and one that has been the victim of atheist and evolutionary bias, which the article covers), and [[Larry McDonald]] (a true patriot who stayed true to his principles, and his article actually covers the theories on his possible survival). --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:22, 18 October 2016 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Account promoted again == &lt;br /&gt;
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Congratulations, your account has been promoted again, so that you can edit protected articles, and protect and unprotect articles.  Very well done!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:05, 10 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wow! Thank you very much, Mr. Schlafly! I really appreciate it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:19, 10 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Congratulations!  I've had some problems with the &amp;quot;protect&amp;quot; privilege, but I hope it works for you! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:35, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thanks! I hope so too! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:15, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Congratulations on yet another promotion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 12 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi again, 1990'sguy, it's Ambassador. Is there any reason I can't edit the article on the [[Big Bang]]? To keep atheists from changing it, I suppose. If you have access to it, you might want to add the point about the Big Bang, due to planets and moons spinning backwards, contradicting the law of Conservation of angular momentum. Find out about it [http://www.creationwiki.org/Three_planets_and_several_moons_revolve_backwards_(Talk.Origins) here]. Thanks! [[User:Ambassador|Ambassador]] ([[User talk:Ambassador|talk]]) 19:56, 22 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yes, the article is protected probably because of atheist/secularist/liberal vandalism. Unfortunately, I cannot edit it myself as I do not have full admin capabilities. I recommend asking an admin ([http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special:ListUsers&amp;amp;username=&amp;amp;group=sysop&amp;amp;limit=100 list]) to unlock the article or add the information you want added. Or, you can go to [[Talk:Main Page|the main talk page]] and add your request there, where more people can see it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:08, 22 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello there, and thank you for editing the article on [[Islam and Christianity]]. --[[User:SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S|SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S]] ([[User talk:SWAJCAHL&amp;amp;#38;S|talk]]) 09:13, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:No problem, and thank you for creating it! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:14, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::And also thank you, for your help - and tips! - on [[Jared Kushner]]. I'll try to remember the ref's and cat's in the future. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] ([[User talk:Ed Poor|talk]]) 21:49, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Sounds great and you're welcome! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 23 November 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I added a bit on the talk page a while ago. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:15, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Do you mean on the section &amp;quot;Ptolemy's view of a stationary earth&amp;quot;? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sorry for the late reply but yes. It doesn't seemed to have created a new heading so I will add that now. [[User:PeterIceHockey|PeterIceHockey]] ([[User talk:PeterIceHockey|talk]]) 17:11, 5 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I removed it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:21, 5 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== This is a simple misunderstanding. Please be reasonable. ==&lt;br /&gt;
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This is [[User:Amorrow]]. I had to dirty myself by creating a sockpuppet because you cut off every last channel of communication. The issues:&lt;br /&gt;
# SSN of dead people are release by the government of the USA. I made it clear that my father is dead. His name was William Knight Morrow. You can find his name and SSN, for instance, at [http://sortedbybirthdate.com/pages/19311104.html this page]. It is public, not private.&lt;br /&gt;
# You could have removed that link and let it go at that. I do not require notification of such actions. I do not care about that link very much. I put it there simply as a convenience.&lt;br /&gt;
Is the matter resolved? If so, then please unblock me or let me know here what remains unresolved.--[[User:Amorrow2|Amorrow2]] ([[User talk:Amorrow2|talk]]) 20:44, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:I am discussing the issue on [[User talk:DavidB4]]. You are welcome to join in. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:48, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::You are unblocked. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 3 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for the ref [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Donald_Trump&amp;amp;oldid=1293435]. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:34, 18 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. Always happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:15, 18 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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You're not telling me it's just a coincidence, are you? [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:44, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Seriously? It is extremely unlikely that this passage, which is about the Second Coming of Christ, has anything to do with Donald Trump. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:46, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Dang :( Thought I'd had my first ever conservative insight. Must be the morphine. [[User:JohnZ|JohnZ]] ([[User talk:JohnZ|talk]]) 18:56, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think this has more to do with biblical [[hermeneutics]] than conservatism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 19:00, 23 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Merry Christmas!  And have a happy New Year's Day. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:37, 24 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you very much, Conservative, and the same to you as well! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:43, 24 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== [[St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I suggest doing the redirect in the opposite direction for two reasons.  First, it preserves the history and visits to the pre-existing entry.  Second, it leaves intact the &amp;quot;Saint&amp;quot; spelled out, which is a stronger and more effective title than the secularized abbreviation.  I'd be happy to change the direction of the redirect, if you agree.  Regardless, thanks for your efforts!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:01, 27 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes please, Mr. Schlafly, that would be great if you would move it. Just as long as the article shows up as being created by me on the &amp;quot;New Pages&amp;quot; feed. I didn't know that this article already existed, but I worked hard on it and I think that my article is of higher quality by any objective measure. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:39, 28 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I was thinking of doing an article on the [[European immigration]] problem (don't want to call 'European immigration crisis', yet). Americans are woefully ignorant of what's happening in Europe, and we're looking at doing perhaps the biggest change in Immigration law since 1952. In Europe, whole new political parties have been spawned because of the establishment parties failure to deal with the problems. In 20 years, the German mi!itary may be majority Muslim which would impact the future of the NATO alliance. Better get started now in educating the American public on changing demographics and how this may affect America's role as a Superpower, assuming it still is by then. &lt;br /&gt;
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Would you care to collaborate? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 01:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Of course, I'll be happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:39, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Do you think we should add a subsection under UK about Brexit and to what extent that was motivated by immigration? Also, I'd like to include something about the Schengen Agreement. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:46, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Both of those are great ideas. The &amp;quot;freedom of movement&amp;quot; EU policy played a large part in the referendum and its aftermath. People are tired of unlimited immigration.&lt;br /&gt;
:::As for the Schengen area, people can go anywhere they want in Europe without worrying about border security (and before, it was quite tough crossing the border I've heard). The agreement is an essential part of the EU plan to reach full political unification. It really has nothing to do with economics. Also, criminals and terrorists can easily cross the border. The recent Berlin attacker was caught in Italy. He crossed at least two borders without being caught. Imagine if he tried doing that without the agreement. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:53, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Same as most of suspects in 1200 reported sexual assault cases New Years Eve in Cologne. Something like only 7 or 22 arrests have ever been made, while most of the other identified suspects are reported to have fled the country.[[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''#NeverHillary'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:06, 29 December 2016 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I created [[Social Security Death Index]]. After I add some ref's, I hope that we can revisit the notion of me declaring what my father's SSN is.&lt;br /&gt;
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Just to mention where I got this idea from, it is from the web site anusha.com . Sloan has lived an erratic and at times immoral life, but he is just below the level of genius in raw talent. I refer to him as an &amp;quot;accidental adventurer&amp;quot;. Please see thermo4thermo.org/sam_sloan.html for some of his life-adventures.&lt;br /&gt;
I am not promoting his lifestyle, but he is my publisher for my upcoming book. His web site is a mess. It has about 3000 pages but just a mess of cross-references. The home page is very, very long.  You can look at pages like www.anusha.com/pafc147.htm . He also has pages like www.anusha.com/uncles-p.htm . His memory is almost perfect. Near Total Recall. Anyway, I hope we can engage in dialog about my father's SSN.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 22:11, 3 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Hate crime==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear 1990'sguy, I am not trying to get into an edit war with you, but I believe that you are misreading the hate crime laws.  They do not address &amp;quot;hate speech,&amp;quot; just violence or other criminal acts against target groups that receive a lot of hate.  I suggest that you do further research, and I hope that you will come to the same conclusion. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 20:31, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:For clarification, are you telling me that hate crime laws do not cover &amp;quot;hate speech&amp;quot;? Regardless, I think we should mention that slowly (but steadily) speaking out for biblical Christian principles (opposition to homosexual marriage, saying Islam is a false religion, etc.) is being seen as &amp;quot;hate speech&amp;quot; and vulnerable to being criminalized. See this recent story[https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/simon-turpin/2016/01/08/northern-ireland-pastor-not-guilty-criticising-islam/] and please note the recent attempts to censor Christian sermons in Houston (I don't know if other cities did the same). Censorship of Christian and conservative opinions is growing, and I could a few (but probably unrelated to hate crimes) examples. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:09, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Also, while you can keep you additions, would you please restore the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Hate_crime&amp;amp;curid=3861&amp;amp;diff=1298155&amp;amp;oldid=1298153 material you deleted in this edit] (particularly those three completely deleted paragraphs)? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:11, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Thank you for fixing the dead link and finding an additional source.  You are exactly right. Hate crime and hate speech are completely different.  All Conservatives disapprove of speech codes, &amp;quot;safe spaces policy&amp;quot; and political correctness.  The First Amendment is clear that regulation of speech must be neutral as to the message.  The person(s) who wrote the [[Hate crime]] article years ago got a bit tangled up.  Liberals want hate speech codes, and Conservatives oppose them.  Both Liberals and Conservatives have voted to enact true hate crime laws to protect religious freedom and to address hate violence on the basis of race.  Some Conservatives argue that the list of hate targets in those laws should not include &amp;quot;sexual orientation,&amp;quot;  but that argument does not belong in a section discussing protecting religion.&lt;br /&gt;
:::I took out the two paragraphs because they were repetitive, out-of-place and not germaine.  Why not add them to [[Hate speech]]? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 21:39, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Thank you for clarifying and for moving the content. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:00, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::You are welcome.  Our discussion here was a bit time delayed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 22:02, 7 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
If you want to include the legislative history, it should explain which bill that was finally adopted that is being discussed and how the bill that was adopted differs from the earlier bills.  The people that worked on this article years ago were obviously opposed to a series of bills and were making arguments on why a bill would be bad.  Their narative is out of date.  We have a number of state and federal hate crime laws on the books and we need to describe what exists, give facts and statistics about how the laws work, and include some commentary on whether the law has been applied fairly.   If you want to expand the history section beyond the two sentences that I have explaining how the federal law expanded the role of the FBI, please do so.  But the fact that certain people sponsored bills that did not pass before a bill did pass is not helpful unless you explain what changes were made or how the early efforts illumniates our understanding of the bill that passed. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 00:50, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:If these proposed bills became law, we should definitely include this (even if we word it differently). We should do this in order to inform the public about leftist laws and to show that they didn't always exist. Unfortunately, I am quite busy right now, so I cannot do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::1990sguy, these bills did '''not''' become law.  A similar bill later became law. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:10, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Not to sidetrack your guys discussion, but let me point out (cause the media hasn't) we have just witnessed something very rare and unusual in the US. Traditionally, because of state sovereignty, the states prosecute murder cases and federal government's role is restricted, for most of our history, to capital cases in the US military. In the 20th century federal crimes like murdering the president, or terrorism on federal property causing death ([[Timothy McVeigh]]), were added. This guy, [http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/12/us/dylann-roof-death-penalty-explainer/ Dylann Roof], has just been sentenced to death for violating peoples civil rights with a hate crime enhancement, and ''not for murder''. The federal government does not have the legal authority to try this as a murder case. In fact, Roof probably never will be tried for murder cause the State of South Carolina isn't gonna spend the time and money to do it after the feds are done. In my lifetime, I think this is only the fourth case like this I ever heard of, tho I'm sure there's been a few others. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:37, 13 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Rob, this happened a lot in the 1960s. Civil rights workers would go South and were murdered and either the murder was not prosecuted or a local jury would acquit the accused.  The FBI would then investigate and the US DOJ would successfully prosecute for civil rights violations in Federal Court.  The question is whether there is enough of a commerce clause basis to allow for the passage of such federal crimes, and the courts have upheld them on the grounds that if the federal government did not prevent such intimidation, people would not feel safe crossing state lines.  Also, many states have suspended or abolished the death penalty, while it remains available in federal court.  State &amp;quot;sovereignty&amp;quot; is very limited and not ''actual'' sovereignty in the legal sense.  To me, this is a more interesting aspect of the Hate crime article than whether or not the definition should be expanded to include &amp;quot;gender identity.&amp;quot; [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 01:08, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::I'm not sure it happened &amp;quot;a lot&amp;quot;. There was the 'Mississippi Burning' case, where the local cops and others were charged with civil rights violations, but no one served more than a six year sentence. This is why &amp;quot;hate crime&amp;quot; legislation was added later, cause sentences were too light for a &amp;quot;civil rights violation resulting in death&amp;quot;. The problem in those days were all-white juries exonerating murder cases, so the feds invented a way they could prosecute killers. One guy was convicted in a state trial [http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/price&amp;amp;bowers/killen.htm 40 years later in 2005 of manslaughter,] but he wasn't the trigger man. No one has ever been charged with the actual killings.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Then there was Salt Lake City case of a civil rights violation resulting in death in 1978, but Utah was never part of the Confederacy, was not put under federal scrutiny in the Voting Rights Act, nor has a history of all-white jurries exonersting whites accused of murdering blacks. &lt;br /&gt;
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::::In the 90s Timothy McVeigh was the first person executed by the federal government since, like 1956.  But this was a terrorism charge resulting in death, not a civil rights violation, AFAIK. ([https://www.reddit.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3azq6b/eli5how_timothy_mcveigh_only_got_convicted_of_8/ McVeigh was only charged with 8 counts of murder, although 168 were killed]). Since McVeigh, there's been maybe one or two other cases of people executed by the federal government.&lt;br /&gt;
::::Bottomline, the federal hate crime enhancement was added cause, while the feds proved they could get a conviction where the state failed to act, the penalty was too low. Since its inception, it's hard to find a single case that the law was used for what it was designed for. There is no evidence whatsoever that South Carolina would not prosecute Dylann Roos, or an all-white jury would have exonerated him if the feds failed to intrude. South Carolina has lost its right to govern itself, its sovereignty. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 06:32, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::If this is true, then it definitely should be added. It would give yet another ignored example of massive governmental expansion and movement towards socialism. JDano, if the 2009 proposal did not become law, then what did the actual law consist of? If the bill that was listed on the article did not become law, then there is no point in including it. However, a legislative history of successful bills would be good. However, I am still quite busy, so I will not attempt to do anything about this at the moment. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:49, 14 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I will provide the details you seek when i get some time. You were in the top 5. --Jpatt 10:19, 16 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you for the reply Jpatt! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:40, 16 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I am continuing the discussion on my talk page.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 10:39, 22 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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What would be the best word to describe Eurosceptic's opponents? Eurocentric? Pan European? Some other? I don't like globalist in this context. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|Make Exxon Great Again]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 12:42, 28 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I would say either &amp;quot;Europeanists,&amp;quot; &amp;quot;Europhiles,&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;Euro-Federalists&amp;quot; are the best. They either seem to be the most used terms. Of those three, I would personally opt for the first. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:00, 28 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I've noticed you sometimes change blocks by other admins to increase the time or make in infinite.  I appreciate your intentions, but just thought I would point out a couple things.  Firstly, the blocking admin generally has the final say over the block they have imposed.  For example, if a person want to dispute the ban, they are to go to the blocking admin, and that admin decides whether to revoke the ban or not (as can be seen [[Conservapedia:Quick_reference#If_you_get_blocked|here]]).  Since you are not revoking a block, it's probably not as big of an issue, but it still seems to be proper etiquette. Of course, full admins have authority over assistants such as you and I, so they have the right to direct revise of revoke blocks we make.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Secondly, While it makes good sense to block those people forever, it doesn't really work that way.  A ban applies to the username, and the IP from which they edited if the option is selected--nothing more.  Vandals almost always use servers to redirect their connection, however, so that their true IP is never seen by CP.  This means that when we block those users, we are really just blocking the server they were using.  This is a good thing too, but the problem is that these servers are usually assigned new IPs periodically, so the block no longer applies--now the blocked IP is unassigned.  Since most people in the western world still use IPv4, there are not that many spare IP addresses, so the IP is soon assigned to someone else. Now some innocent person is using an IP which for all eternity has been blocked on CP.  They probably will never even know, but if we set infinite blocks enough, the chances of that happening regularly increase continuously.  I know some people here do use infinite block regularly, but in my opinion its a logistical problem.  This is why I almost always set a time limit, or block only the username infinitely, and leave the IP unblocked (which I prefer not to do).&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your ongoing efforts! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:05, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Yikes, I should have thought of that. The thought of indefinitely blocking innocent people from CP certainly is not a good thing. If you haven't reverted by block change, feel free to undo it. I'm too busy right now to do it myself. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:11, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::The chances of that happening from a couple blocks are pretty low, but it can add up.  Anyway, no harm done.  I just thought I'd mention it. Thanks! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;&amp;lt;small&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/small&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 22:24, 31 January 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== expand ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Gainful employment]]. Yes. I dare you to.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 08:32, 4 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Why? What's the purpose of you messaging me? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:25, 4 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Abortion]] article==&lt;br /&gt;
It's open for you to make your suggested additions.  As to the Leif Ericson image, what needs to happen is a new image uploaded in its place.  I'll try to find one later.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 13:18, 6 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:New Leif image uploaded and added to article. [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 12:56, 7 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thank you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:02, 7 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Addiction article and TAR ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello again, Regarding the [[Addiction]] article and specifically its categories, I agree with JDano. Let me attempt to explain:&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;TAR&amp;quot; is short for [[User:TheAmericanRedoubt|TheAmericanRedoubt]] a former user and assistant SysOp here at Conservapedia. People have differing opinions of him, but mine is that he did offer some valuable contributions, but also did not understand and did not learn the rules of CP. Among some other issues, he tended to add many &amp;quot;See also&amp;quot; links to articles which were not sufficiently relevant and did the same with categories.  Thus, when editors refer to &amp;quot;TAR&amp;quot; they are usually talking about this debris, which should not exist.  TheAmericanRedoubt (TAR) has since stopped editing here, and his account has been deleted.  However, some of the links and categories he inserted still exists, and make things look messy.  For this reason, a number of editors (including myself) try to clean up these issues and restore a little more order.  The guide page [[Conservapedia:How to create and maintain high-quality articles]] was the direct result of TAR's methods.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Regarding the categories specifically, it's best to maintain a &amp;quot;tree&amp;quot; structure.  A page should not connect to categories which also contain subcategories it links to. Also, it should link only to categories which contain it, not categories which the page topic can contain.  In other words, a page &amp;quot;drug&amp;quot; should be in the category &amp;quot;medicines&amp;quot; but not in a category &amp;quot;antibiotics&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
I hope this clarifies a bit. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 00:42, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Please allow me to apologize for my impatience with the &amp;quot;addiction&amp;quot; article.  You accidentally stepped into the remains of a hornets' nest.  TAR added lots of utterly irrelevant see-also's and categories, in what can only be described as an attempt to turn this wiki into survivalist-pedia, or perhaps James-Wesley-Rawles-pedia.  He offended a huge number of people with his implications that we were all supposed to stockpile bullets, batteries, and other survivalist stuff (I could look it up but it's too nauseating) and move to a &amp;quot;redoubt&amp;quot; in Idaho or similar place while we wait for the apocalypse.  We were also all supposed to be into some kind of crackpot Indian alternative medicine.  (I think it was called &amp;quot;ayurvedic&amp;quot; or something like that; once again too nauseating.)  The whole wiki was in an enormous uproar for a few months.  (And Cons, who really doesn't subscribe to that stuff, nevertheless stirred up the pot by pretending to be in email contact with the guy.)&lt;br /&gt;
:So if you see suspicious see-also's or categories, especially with codewords like &amp;quot;nanny state&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;gun-grabbing&amp;quot;, be aware this might be detritus from TAR.  I support the second amendment, but I don't support putting all this survivalist garbage into an article on fire hydrants.&lt;br /&gt;
:[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 01:36, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::It has taken a huge amount of work to undo TAR's damage.  I suppose that you think that there is a bias against any change he had made, and there is probably some truth to that.  He did not understand that our categories have a tree structure.  Instead, he thought of categories as a word association test.   Putting in excess categories and excessive red links makes Conservapedia less appealing to users and lowers our google search engine rankings.  In theory, every article could be in every category, because there is some plausible connection between any two subjects.  If we had a separate article on &amp;quot;Drug Addiction&amp;quot; then it could have categories like [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] or [[:Category:Drugs]].  The problem is that [[:Category:Illegal Drugs]] is a subcategory of [[:Category:Drugs]] ''breaking up the category tree with an infinite loop.'' Here the Addiction article is on a much higher level that discusses video games, etc. So, it is not useful to a high school student looking for information about illegal drugs, in my opinion. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 05:46, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thank you all for your explanations. Considering these things, I will try not to get in the way next time this clean up occurs. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:13, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
== Thanks! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You helped make [http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/conservapedia.com THIS] happen. &lt;br /&gt;
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I have never seen a non-profit website go from below 100,000 rank to nearly a 50,000 Alexa ranking in about a year. And Andy payed zero dollars for internet marketing services during this period. &lt;br /&gt;
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And there is no sign of a nearing web traffic plateau. My guess is that Trump supporters/Trump era and the resulting political waves significantly explains the boost in traffic.&lt;br /&gt;
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Trump supporters seem very loyal so the traffic boost could be long lasting. It also seems like there is a reawakening of right-wing politics/nationalism that will be long lasting.  And right-wing populism and &amp;quot;[[best of the public]]&amp;quot; go together like peanut butter and jelly. :)  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:30, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You're welcome, and thank ''you'' for all your edits! I'm happy to help improve the quality of Conservapedia. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:56, 13 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
==Quick project==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear Guy:&lt;br /&gt;
Our state articles list the members of Congress from each state, but they have not be updated for 2016.  If five editors could update 10 states each, we would be done quickly.  Could you please take a look at [[Conservapedia:Community Portal#Political directory]]? Thanks in advance, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 16:13, 15 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your help with the project and with People's Party. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:02, 21 February 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Tip ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your terrific work.  One tip: the licensing information should be expressly included in the uploads.  I added it here: [[File:EU_member_states.png]].  Thanks again for your edits and uploads.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 23:27, 7 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you for the tip. I will remember to add the information next time. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:34, 7 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Template:Book]]==&lt;br /&gt;
Try working on it now.  [[User:Karajou|Karajou]] ([[User talk:Karajou|talk]]) 10:48, 11 March 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Questions ==&lt;br /&gt;
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A few months ago, you told me to ask you any questions I had, so here goes:&lt;br /&gt;
*When recategorizing the massive and messy [Category:Authors] by nationality, I found two authors, [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], whom I could not recategorize as [Category:American Authors].  Could you change them for me?&lt;br /&gt;
*When fixing the [[Francois Rabelais]] cedilla mess, I set up a redirect.  Has anyone ever made a loop out of redirects?  If so, what happened?  I'm scared to try it.&lt;br /&gt;
*Lastly, where is my attention now best sent - expanding the author articles, improving our coverage of science and mathematics, or maybe tackling another recat job, like [Category:Music]?&lt;br /&gt;
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:1) Concerning [[Theo Hobson]] and [[Carl Sagan]], those articles are protected, and as an assistant sysop, I do not have the ability to edit them. I recommend asking someone like [[User:Karajou]] or CP's owner, [[User:Aschlafly]] to either unlock the articles to allow you to fix the category or to have them change the cat themselves. I've made many similar requests to them and they will be happy to help.&lt;br /&gt;
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:2) I have not heard of someone doing that before. I personally don't think anything bad would happen if someone did try it, as you can still access the actual redirect page to remove the loop.&lt;br /&gt;
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:3) Honestly, all three choices are great. If I were you, I would probably choose to expand the articles already created so that the average reader would find them more interesting and worthwhile, rather than just seeing a stub. After that, I would personally move on to work on another category, so that CP is better-organized. Then after that, I would do math and science, which is (as far as I can tell) on a different theme than your other work. This is my personal preference, but if you would prefer doing it in a different order feel free! You have been very helpful to CP, and I appreciate your work. Keep it up! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:20, 14 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Hi, just a quick note: A redirect loop shouldn't be a problem.  I think the user is only redirected once, so after that they see the second redirect page.  Redirect loops, double redirects, and dead redirects should all be avoided when possible.  Thanks for your contributions! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 20:23, 14 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::You are entirely correct, DavidB4; I just tried a loop with soda and pop (and removed it).  Typing one would give you the page for the other, and an option to redirect.  I'll proceed to expand the author pages now.  Feel free to removed this section to abridge the talk page.--[[User:Abcqwe|Abcqwe]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 15:58, 15 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Could you please write this article? ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please write this important article: [[Atheism and ethics]]? &lt;br /&gt;
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I may ask another writer or tow to contribute to it also.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:07, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, I think I will be able to find some time to do it. Unfortunately, I have other things on my to-do list (even for CP), but this article is important, and I will try to find time to help. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:10, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::OK. Thanks. I think [[User:Pokeria1]] will be assisting you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 10:55, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Sources to help you write an article ===&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.spectator.co.uk/2014/04/ethics-for-atheists/# Would human life be sacred in an atheist world?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheists_more_immoral.html Atheism Doesn't Lead to Immoral Behavior - Or Does It?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheism_determinism_morality.html Does Atheism (Determinism) Negatively Impact Morality?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://apologetics-notes.comereason.org/2015/03/atheism-ethics-and-immorality.html Atheism, Ethics, and Immorality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.thinkingchristian.net/posts/2016/01/good-nothing-make-atheist-ethics-better-christian/ Being Good “For Nothing” — Does That Make Atheist Ethics Better Than Christian?]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/questions-on-atheism-ethics-and-marital-conflict Questions on Atheism, Ethics, and Marital Conflict]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics]&lt;br /&gt;
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Secular sources:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]&lt;br /&gt;
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Additional sources:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf God, Naturalism, and the Foundations of Morality] by Paul Copan&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://themelios.thegospelcoalition.org/article/the-amorality-of-atheism The amorality of atheim] by Rob Smith&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/can-we-be-good-without-godCan Can we be good without God?] by William Lane Craig]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/atheism#atheism-and-ethics Atheism and ethics and morality] by Ken Ammi&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.doesgodexist.org/NovDec06/AtheisticExplanations.html Atheist explanations of morality and common sense]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://whatswrongwiththeworld.net/2015/09/does_being_an_atheist_interfer.html Does being an atheist interfere with being moral?] by Lydia McGrew&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://americanvision.org/2742/nietzsche-slaps-down-dawkins-on-the-illusion-of-atheist-morality/ Nietzsche slaps down Dawkins on the illusion of atheist morality] by Dr. Joel McDurmon&lt;br /&gt;
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== quick note ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Would you be interested in email communication with me? My email is userconservative135@gmail.com &lt;br /&gt;
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Please let me know if you are interested. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:54, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, that would be great! I've been thinking for some time of setting up a CP email address account, and I'll do that within the next couple of days. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:29, 18 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK. That sounds good. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 00:02, 19 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Here it is: 1990sguysdg@gmail.com --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:46, 21 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I just sent you an email. Let me know if you got it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:10, 21 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I wrote another response to your email. Please check your email box. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:05, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I got your latest email and responded to it. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 15:41, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== If you are interested, another article that needs to be created ==&lt;br /&gt;
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If you are interested, another article that needs to be created: [[Secular ethics]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sources about this topic:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular_ethics Secular ethics]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H5 Secular Morality]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://www.iep.utm.edu/n-atheis/#H4 The Moral Evaluation of Religion]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:11, 20 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== A couple more article suggestions related to atheism and morality ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, here are a few more articles that need to be written about atheism and morality:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Evolutionary ethics]], Wikipedia has an article on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionary_ethics&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Ethical naturalism]], Wikipedia has an article on it at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_naturalism&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Ethical subjectivism]], Wikipedia has an article on this subject at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethical_subjectivism&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your assistance on the [[Atheism and ethics]] article. It was much appreciated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:21, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Project I invited you to participate in plus   ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is the project I invited you to participate in: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Conservapedia:Atheism Project]]&lt;br /&gt;
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It should be easy to find relevant online material in order to create some of the articles. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:19, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you, Conservative, for your suggestions. I will begin on some of these soon. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:53, 22 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I sent you an email. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:57, 24 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Blocking user &amp;quot;reformed&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Well, I've got to say that vandalizing the user page of someone with block authority is '''really''' stupid.&lt;br /&gt;
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But I take issue with your claim that he was an &amp;quot;obvious sock&amp;quot;.  As one who has been blocked a number of times on completely bogus socking charges, I take that stuff seriously.  (The blocking was generally done by someone (now deceased) who had &amp;quot;checkuser&amp;quot; privileges and therefore had good tools for detecting socks, but did not understand how internet addresses work.)&lt;br /&gt;
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It is not at all obvious to me, as one who has a lot of experience at CP, that he was a sock.  He was a vandal, and you should block him for that.&lt;br /&gt;
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Oh, dear.  Now I see that there's a big storm of this stuff going on.  And, yes, these guys, or at least some of them, are probably socks of each other.  And at least one of them is using the name &amp;quot;obvioussock&amp;quot;, just to taunt you.  And one says he used to be a washing machine in his previous life.&lt;br /&gt;
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My goodness!  I think you are being trolled!  :-)  :-)  And no, I had nothing to do with this.  Just block them.  It will blow over soon.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 12:54, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you for your message. :) Due to the fact that &amp;quot;reformed&amp;quot; was created right after I blocked two users and vandalized my user page, I assumed that it was a clear sock of one or both of them. However, as it was not clear to you and possibly others, I changed the block settings to just include vandalism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:06, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Screw up==&lt;br /&gt;
Sorry, I'm working with a tablet, and it's a piece of garbage. I didn't intentionally remove your comments. Sorry. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:31, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Assuming you're referring to those at [[Talk:Main Page]], apology accepted. It can happen to the best of us. They were other user's edits, however. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:33, 25 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Thank you ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For your reverts yesterday on my userpage, saw the sock puppet master was not finished with his trolling. [[User:YortKeldher|YortKeldher]] ([[User talk:YortKeldher|talk]]) 07:37, 26 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:54, 26 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thank you for your improvements to [[Examples of Bias in Wikipedia: Vaccination]]. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 16:13, 29 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:30, 29 March 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== small request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you a message at the last place we communicated. Can you please read that message? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 08:59, 6 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I sent you the information I promised.  It is located at the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:36, 6 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Sent you message. Please check place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:::I sent you a quick note to the place we last communicated. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:51, 18 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Could you please go to the place we last communicated? It is regarding another matter. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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With a large photo, there is much more word wrap in the table of contents, which makes it even longer.  We need a wide table of contents. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 19:08, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I've checked and double-checked, and I see no way how the larger-sized photo does anything to the table of contents. And I'm using a standard Google Chrome, 100% zoom screen. Could it be your search engine/zoom? I don't see any reason why the larger image is a problem in any way. I think it looks better, regardless. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:06, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::On Firefox the TOC is longer due to word wrap.  You can get other pictures to help fill the space, but the space will be shorter if the TOC is wider. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 23:19, 10 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I am getting a lot of 500 errors.  I will wait for you to finish, and then I will go back and apply my changes. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 11:07, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have done my changes. But please, when making those changes, please do ''not'' revert changes I have made, particularly changes that I have already reverted you multiple times. I'm tired of these disputes. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:09, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello,&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
After some discussion (on [[User_talk:DavidB4#Conservapedia_IRC_channel|my talk page]] and [[User_talk:Aschlafly#IRC|Andy's]]) it has been decided that I start an [[Internet Relay Chat]] channel for Conservapedia, since our old one has been dead since 2009.  It is now registered and somewhat set up.  I don't know if you use IRC or are interested in doing so, but anyone with block privileges on Conservapedia can also get block privileges on the new IRC channel.  Unfortunately, IRC accounts are deleted after 30 days of being unused, so unless you plan on using the IRC at least once a month, there is probably not much point in registering.  In any case, feel free to try it out--if you account gets deleted, we can always make another one later.  If you are interested, please let me know!&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
The IRC channel is: #conservapedia @irc.accessIRC.net&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Let me know if you have any questions or need anything else, also! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:33, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thank you for your response. I have never used or really even heard of IRC prior before now (or, more accurately, before you and Andy started talking about it). What is the purpose of IRC? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:47, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::It is perhaps the oldest form of instant messaging.  It is basically a chat room, where people can join and idle or actively chat.  Visitors can ask members questions, and members can collaborate.  There is even file sharing, if that would be useful.  I'm going to be writing a how-to-use guide to explain the actual usage better.&amp;lt;br /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Most people use software clients, which they install (or run portably, which a whole different story), but web clients are also available, such as [https://kiwiirc.com/client?settings=7c7240c62a5d4861a8ad0ba697929f39 this one].  With the web client, you can just pick a name and connect, without installing anything.  Also, since IRC has been around so long, software for it is compatible with almost anything.  All desktop and most mobile operating systems support it. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:55, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thanks for the info! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:24, 11 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Already took care of that and left a note for [[User talk:Teapublican|Teapublican]] on his talk page. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:09, 20 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thank you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:08, 20 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Recent item on maintalk -- congratulations! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry, I just couldn't resist making fun of you there.  I immediately recognized the Breitbart article, as one that I had seen shortly before.  And then I saw that it was you.  No hard feelings, I hope.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 23:22, 24 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:None at all. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:37, 24 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Congratulations!  The [[March for Science]] article is a ''really good article''.  And you made it so.  (Well, with a little prodding from me.)  It sets out, straightforwardly, what was going on, and it doesn't descend into namecalling.  I realize that you probably have very strong disagreements with what most of those people were doing, but you kept it professional.&lt;br /&gt;
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::Really good articles, especially on potential &amp;quot;hot button&amp;quot; issues of politics, aren't all that common.  Now maybe I will make another attempt to return the [[Pussy Riot]] article to the good state it was in back when I expanded it in 2014, before it got messed up with the implication that anyone who opposes murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin must be a &amp;quot;leftist&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;elitist&amp;quot;, or &amp;quot;social justice warrior&amp;quot;.  For which I was blocked, in blatant violation of the rules of this site.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 14:25, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::Thank you for the compliment! Unfortunately, the router I'm using blocked the &amp;quot;Pussy Riot&amp;quot; article because of the first word in the title, so I cannot comment on that at all. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:00, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::How sad.  I have created the redirect [[Nadezhda Tolokonnikova]] in case that helps.  But it probably won't.  You had no trouble typing the &amp;quot;P&amp;quot; word above, so I guess it's a problem of your router not going to a page with that word in the title.  Maybe I should have named the page with its Cyrillc letters: &amp;quot;Пусси Райот&amp;quot;.  Well, you're not missing anything of cosmic importance.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 16:42, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::The redirect actually did work. Thanks! The article does not appear to have a high quality (at least in the aesthetic sense), so changes would probably be beneficial, but if you're going to make changes, I would like to remind you to be cautious and not to contradict CP's POV. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:17, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::In case you forgot, Sam &amp;lt;s&amp;gt;(and how fast it appears that happens with you)&amp;lt;/s&amp;gt;, it was ''you'' who violated the rules of this site by putting a liberal POV into that article (among others, [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/SamHB per your history]) in the first place, then insistently readding it after your edit was reverted and you were warned about violating CP policy and about starting fights with other editors. You really should take the advice you're being given here and not continue violating CP policy. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 21:59, 26 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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*Today is my 9th anniversary at Conservapedia!&lt;br /&gt;
*I can assure everyone that I am very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP.  I am also familiar with the many, many, many discussions of these points that have taken place over the years.&lt;br /&gt;
*@Northwest: this is the expected response.&lt;br /&gt;
*@1990's guy: this is ''not'' the response I expected.  I'm chagrined that you think the article is of low quality.  Especially since you know how to write high quality articles.&lt;br /&gt;
I'm serious.  I was proud of that article as originally written/expanded by me.  I thought it laid out the facts accurately, and avoided name-calling and such.  Exactly like the March for Science article.  Please look at the article (preferably the [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Pussy_Riot&amp;amp;oldid=1328015] version, before name-calling got put in) and fix it up as you see fit.  The name-calling consisted, among other things, of saying that those people around the world who took an interest in the case were &amp;quot;elitists&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;social justice warriors on the left&amp;quot;.  The latter term is straight out of Huffington Post and their ilk.  It is a term of bleeding hearts in America, and not used widely elsewhere.  In any case, one doesn't need to be an SJW to oppose murderous thug tyrant Vladimir Putin.  In fact, given the recent falling out between President Trump and Putin, the accepted orthodoxy here at CP might be swinging away from support for the murderous thug.  I hope so.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 11:28, 28 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:My problem is not with content; it is with organization, layout, aesthetics, etc. There are no subsections, which at least show the reader how the article is organized; it is just many paragraphs. Such articles do not appeal to the reader. IMO, it feels like reading a textbook. If it is just a few paragraphs, it is fine, but thus article has ten paragraphs. Adding a few headers and possibly an image would be beneficial (and I realized just as I wrote this that the March for Science article is approaching that length as well, so I probably either should just keep my mouth shut or add headers there as well). I did not mean to insult or degrade your work, and I apologize for giving that impression. BTW, happy 9th anniversary! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:46, 28 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Sam - by your response, you're only proving what I said about your tactics and your history here right. You claim to be &amp;quot;very familiar with, and well versed in, the rules, commandments, guidelines, customs, and habits of CP&amp;quot;, but you only pay lip service to them here while your actions on CP over the years (and even now) are showing that you simply choose to disregard them for the sake of pushing liberal POV on this site and to start fights with those who don't share your viewpoint. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 18:08, 28 April 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Bill Nye ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you please contact me by email at sam4557@gmail.com?  I think we can make a really good article out of this.  I have a number of criticisms of his behavior--my opinion of him has gone down a whole lot over the last few weeks, and I think I have some insights about this that I'd like to bounce off of you.  I know that you and I disagree totally about evolution and creationism, but we can put together a good article stating the facts.  We can stay away from the name-calling that so many articles contain, and avoid things like &amp;quot;so-and-so falsely believes that ...&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is ''not'' about Pussy Riot, ''not'' about Conservapedia politics, and ''not'' about you-know-who.  I just want to bounce some ideas off of you about Bill Nye and see if we can put together a really nice article.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Expanded article, footnote did not support genocide/racist abortions adequately ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I greatly expanded this article [[Abortion and eugenics]].  The footnote in the liberal article was not supporting or at the very least inadequately supporting racist/genocidal abortion policies of [[Margaret Sanger]], etc. &lt;br /&gt;
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Specifically, I skimmed the article as far as the footnoted article and it did not appear to strongly support such a big claim like abortion/genocide, etc. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 01:26, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Something isn't right here==&lt;br /&gt;
... Ohhh I know what it is. ''Margaret Thatcher'' is on the list of liberals. ''Margaret. Thatcher.'' The bastion of conservatism. A favourite of Reagan. How in the ''world'' did she make the liberal list? [[User:Koidevelopment|Vive]] [[User talk:Koidevelopment|Liberté!]] 09:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Wasn't me who added her. She was not as conservative as people think she is, as she did vote in favor of legalizing abortion and homosexuality. But, that said, it would probably be better without mentioning her, to avoid people focusing on her mention in the article. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:24, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::She might not have been a perfect conservative, but I still think she probably doesn't belong on that list.  Of course, if you go back 80 years and read writings and speeches from liberals of the day, they sound downright conservative now.  Still, she did defend liberty and much of conservatism. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 13:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Lady Thatcher's criticism of Simon Callow's performance in ''Amadeaus'' made her homophobic, I thought. Being homophobic wouldn't preclude one from being liberal however, [[Bill Moyers]] and Louis Black for example. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''The coup plotters won, for now'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 15:31, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
I assume that adding the liberalism template to the [[Episcopal Church]] article was improper? I would like to know what the proper usage of this template is for future reference. TEC is one of, if not the most liberal Christian denomination in the US these days, sadly. I do apologize for this improper usage, as I am a new editor. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:00, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello Anglican! I removed the template because I thought the article was outside the scope of the &amp;quot;liberal&amp;quot; template. What I mean is that the template links to liberal traits, but not necessarily to liberal organizations. I think the category is good for the article, but not template. I hope this helps! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::That makes sense. Thank you for your patience. It's sad what has happened to the Episcopal Church in recent years. --[[User:Anglican|Anglican]] ([[User talk:Anglican|talk]]) 15:14, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You're welcome, and I agree. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:18, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on liberalism. So... ==&lt;br /&gt;
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User: Karajou sent me and others an email saying he didn't like CP's article on [[liberalism]].&lt;br /&gt;
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The article needs major improvements. &lt;br /&gt;
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I am not going to work on it due to time restraints. I spent a lot of time improving the [[liberal]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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I would use the same approach used with the liberal article. Clearly delineate liberalism from socialism/fascism because they are very substantially different (for example, Sweden vs. Communist China vs. Nazi Germany). But mention how the gap between the ideologies has narrowed in the United States. I don't keep up with European politics to know the situation there as far as the gap other than knowing that China has become more capitalistic. European countries commonly have more major political parties in a country so the situation is more difficult to keep tabs on.  [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:33, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I would work on the liberalism article. But also create 2-3 sub-articles: [[American liberalism]] and [[Western liberalism]] and [[European liberalism]].  The [[American liberalism]] article is just a one sentence stub article. &lt;br /&gt;
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::I suggest a [[Western liberalism]] article due to the Canadians, Australia, NZ, and South Africa. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:09, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Since the Brits and Canadians have the most influence in the Anglosphere on the USA, you might want to create a [[British liberalism]] article and a [[Canadian liberalism]] article too. &lt;br /&gt;
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:::Its too bad all this wasn't done before given that CP is a political website. I was largely focused on [[atheism]] which is a dying ideology. This had an indirect relation to liberalism given the prominence of the [[secular left]] on liberal/leftist politics. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Generally speaking, ideally you want the material in the section for main article linking to a sub-article to have substantially different content. In this case, you want the [[American liberalism]] article to have different content than the &amp;quot;American liberalism&amp;quot; section of the [[liberal]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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So if you want to reword and/or add material to the [[American liberalism]] article the would be excellent. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:17, 9 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Opinion on renaming an article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I wanted your opinion on an idea of mines to rename one of our articles on Conservapedia before taking it to an admin or someone with the ability to actually change the name of a page.&lt;br /&gt;
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The current page [[Exodus of Israel]], I think, should be renamed to [[The Exodus]], where [[Exodus of Israel]] should simply be a redirect to that page. Not many users would think of typing 'Exodus of Israel' to get to a page on 'The Exodus', and 'The Exodus' is just much simpler. As it is, [[The Exodus]] is currently a redirect to [[Exodus of Israel]]. I think it should be the other way around. Your thoughts?[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 13:34, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:No, I think it is better the way it is. My main reason is that having titles along the lines of &amp;quot;The....&amp;quot; does not sound encyclopedic. The current name, I believe, is more high quality for that reason. Now, it is true that many users might not think of typing &amp;quot;Exodus of Israel,&amp;quot; but if they type &amp;quot;[[Exodus]],&amp;quot; they'll run into the disambiguation page and find the actual article. Also, I'm not sure that many people would think of typing &amp;quot;The Exodus.&amp;quot; To sum it up, I think the current title is better and give the article a more encyclopedic feel, but you're welcome to ask another editor what they think. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for the thoughts. Wikipedia currently uses 'The Exodus', and I find that it simply looks better, as a title, then 'Exodus of Israel'. Secondly, I also consider it more likely for someone to type in 'The Exodus' then 'Exodus of Israel'.[[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 15:59, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Once again, if you want to ask another editor for their opinion, like DavidB4, feel free to do so. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:20, 10 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your opinion. One thing though, do you know who can get this template locked?&lt;br /&gt;
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At this point, all relevant pages have been created, and therefore this template no longer will ever need any more editing as it is complete. So the best thing to do is to get it locked to avoid any vandalism problems in the future. Just to note, before I came on, it was already locked, even though it still had many problems. Now that the template is fixed, the best thing to do is to get it locked. [[User:Korvex|Korvex]] ([[User talk:Korvex|talk]]) 20:57, 12 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I recommend asking [[User:Aschlafly]] or [[User:Karajou]]. They have protection powers. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 21:15, 12 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Block length==&lt;br /&gt;
Thanks for your alert blocks.  But one year is a long time for a block.  IP addresses often change in a shorter period.  You might consider 3 months as a better block duration in many cases.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:25, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK. I'll see to that. Should I change the blocks I just did? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:26, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I just went ahead and changed them. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:41, 17 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Congratulations on Donald Trump accomplishments ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hey, I just checked Google.  While that movie award comes up first when &amp;quot;Donald Trump achievements,&amp;quot; is Googled, and you are the first result after, you get nice results with certain other phrases:&lt;br /&gt;
*Donald Trump accomplishments - third link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
*Trump achievements - first link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
*Trump accomplishments - fourth link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
*Donald Trump achievements and failures - fourth link, no box&lt;br /&gt;
While Conservative's essays come up first when their exact titles are Googled, bear in mind that these phrases are Googled more frequently.&lt;br /&gt;
Congratulations on the publicity, 1990sguy!--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 08:07, 25 May 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Great job, it is well deserved! - -[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks, Nathan and DavidB, I appreciate it! It seems I chose the right article to create, in terms of gaining page views. For a while, when one searched the exact title of my article, that silly award was not at the top of the article, and in its place was a box with a picture of Trump linking to my article. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:24, 25 May 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Can you chat briefly?  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can we chat briefly? Can you please go to place I sent you messages before? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:16, 3 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Here is the the article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Liberal vs. libertarian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:54, 3 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== It's been great ==&lt;br /&gt;
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You've been helpful since I you first welcomed me here - me, someone who had never used wikitext or HTML in his life and never believed in a young Earth.  You've really made me consider that viewpoint, and you've done it with a brilliant personal appeal, far better than User:Conservative ever has.--[[User:Abcqwe|Nathan]] ([[User talk:Abcqwe|talk]]) 16:34, 4 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Europe's childless leaders==&lt;br /&gt;
Where do you think [http://dcwhispers.com/rather-odd-troubling-fact-european-leaders/ we can squeeze this in] [[European migrant crisis]]? In the Intro or elsewhere? [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 02:13, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think that would be a good idea. We could also, possibly, add it to the [[European Union]] article, and maybe [[Globalism]] or [[Liberal]], as these leaders advocate for left-wing globalist policies. Are you able to find other sources that note this fact? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:53, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I think this also illustrates liberal European values. They support mass immigration of peoples who do not share their culture while they themselves have no children. They are committing national/cultural suicide. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:15, 9 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== The reason I removed Ted Nugent from Notable Texans ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Because Ted Nugent is actually from Michigan. Sorry that I forgot to add an explanation. ([[User:King Conservative|King Conservative]] ([[User talk:King Conservative|talk]]) 13:37, 17 June 2017 (EDT)King Conservative)&lt;br /&gt;
:I removed him from the list. Thanks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:16, 17 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Template tweak==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, guy! Thanks for the {{tl|See also}} in [[Neil Gorsuch]]. That template works better. --[[User:Ed Poor|Ed Poor]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:Ed Poor|Talk]]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 08:53, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome, always happy to help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:58, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Nasty edit summaries==&lt;br /&gt;
Dear 1990sguy:  Please stop writing inflammatory edit summaries.  There is no need to make false personal attacks on other editors.  As for Breitbart, each reference is evaluated individually on its own merits.  If it is news reporting, I welcome it.  However, some references are clearly opinion-editorial pieces that criticize other news stories instead of offering any independent news gathering.  Some authors there are editorial-opinion writers rather than news reporters.  Also, when I check a source and see photos of immodestly dressed women with &amp;quot;wardrobe malfunction&amp;quot; captions or women wearing tight T-shirts imprinted with &amp;quot;no silicone&amp;quot;, I am less inclined to use those sources, given our family-friendly approach. Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:31, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Conservapedia has no requirement that only news reporter sources can be used for mews sources. For example, many excellent conservative editorial pieces link to a news story or quote a news story while providing excellent commentary. &lt;br /&gt;
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:The mainstream press. which is very liberal, have a lot more reporters and they still have some foreign bureaus if I am not mistaken. Then you have Fox which only has a fraction of the combined viewership of ABC, CBS, and NBC.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:To be overly reliant on news sources merely from websites who have reporters is not a good policy. &lt;br /&gt;
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:Yes, there are conservative news organizations such as CNS News. But I don't think we should limit ourselves to merely using conservative news organizations as far as news sources.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:54, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::I agree with Conservative on this. We can use conservative news sources, even if the articles appear to be editorializing. This is a conservative encyclopedia, after all. Why should we adopt editing policies that give liberal MSM sources an unfair advantage? How then can we differentiate ourselves from Wikipedia? I am not opposed to citing MSM sources (I do it myself), but we should give precedence to conservative sources, which do not have leftist bias. Yes, Breitbart has silly ads, but I care more about the content of the article than the ads. There are many Breitbart writers who support conservative, Christian pro-family policies. Are there any at CNN or the NYT?&lt;br /&gt;
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::JDano, yes, my edit summaries were inflammatory. I probably should have acted cooler when dealing with you, and for that, I apologize. Your behavior, constantly reverting and adding changes that I genuinely believe to contain leftist bias without going to the talk page until you've been reverted several times, is not constructive. I do believe your changes are undermining our status as a conservative alternative to Wikipedia. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 02:50, 29 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== re: JDano and you getting &amp;quot;horse throwing&amp;quot; mad ==&lt;br /&gt;
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In the recent edit changes, I saw you use all caps in your description of your edit. It was for the [[Travel ban]] article. &lt;br /&gt;
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This tells me that you are starting to get &amp;quot;horse throwing&amp;quot; mad. &lt;br /&gt;
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If it becomes necessary, you can impose a [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]] to JDano since you have blocking rights. You can make it applicable to certain articles or certain article categories. Probably a certain article would be best as a shot across his bow. &lt;br /&gt;
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If JDano also has blocking rights, you can get Karajou/Aschlafly to impose such a ban. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:29, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:P.S. I don't know if you are correct in this matter. And I don't have time to mediate. I am just offering you a suggestion since I have experienced JDano being unreasonable at times. Also, the majority of Conservapedians/Republicans/conservatives are more fans of Trump than Lindsey Graham.  JDano appears to be in the Graham camp. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:37, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Please see my comment in the section immediately above. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 02:51, 29 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the &amp;quot;travel ban&amp;quot; article.  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I just posted this message to JDano's talk page:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;You are not allowed to edit the [[travel ban]] article anymore.  I am imposing a [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]] on you for this article.  &lt;br /&gt;
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By the way, Indonesia is the largest Muslim country in terms of its Muslim population. The travel ban of the Trump administration does not include Indonesia.&amp;quot;[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 19:13, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== JDano has a topical ban imposed on him for the fake news article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I posted this on JDano's talk page:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The [[fake news]] article was locked/protected. It seems as if the root cause of the page being locked was an edit war involving yourself. &lt;br /&gt;
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You are no longer allowed to edit the fake news article. I am imposing a Conservapedia topic ban on you for this article. See: [[Conservapedia:Topic bans|Conservapedia:Topic ban]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I hope additional topic bans are not imposed on you by people with block rights.&amp;quot; [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:23, 28 June 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Socks of JamesWilson  ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Socks of this clown should receive five year bans. He is a malicious provocateur, and he singlehandedly destroyed another website as well as leading dozens of people off this site. Show this schlemiel no mercy. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:16, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't see why we should be giving long blocks to this guy. He's clearly using multiple ip addresses. These addresses will probably get passed to one or more people who have no intention of vandalizing CP. DavidB4 explained by long blocks are not a good idea on my talk page: [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:1990%27sguy&amp;amp;diff=1304184&amp;amp;oldid=1303142] However, I will not challenge your lengthening of that block or any other. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:20, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Maybe you do have a point because he has created a few different accounts in the past day or so. All I'm saying is that lightening up on him isn't going to work. My late friend George let this guy off easy, and he destroyed an entire community. I've had plenty of experience with this guy in the past to know his MO, and he's fanatically obsessed with Taylor Swift and &amp;quot;avenging&amp;quot; others because they &amp;quot;ruined&amp;quot; his articles. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:28, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::That's fair. This guy is clearly bad news. Regardless of what block lengths we give him (and I can see some sense in making them longer), we should try not to accidently prevent innocent people from viewing CP. Thanks for your help! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:30, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::How do we know that this editor is a &amp;quot;sock&amp;quot; of JamesWilson?  Has anyone checked the IP user logs?  The Taylor Swift connection could be a false-flag operation. If George and James got into an edit-war on a different website, that would not be relevant here.  Let's judge each editor separately until they can be linked by evidence. Are all of the problem users created in the past few days created from the same or very similar IP addresses? Thanks, [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 15:27, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::He put &amp;quot;Sad case!- James Wilson&amp;quot; in the edit summary of all of his vandalism, and it was the same stuff he's always done. If he says it's him, I'm just gonna assume it's him. Dont give this guy the benefit of the doubt. He's had plenty enough breaks here and elsewhere. --[[User:RonaldB|RonaldB]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 16:03, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::@JDano: Yes, I think it clearly is JamesWilson. His vandalism is very repetitive -- he even vandalizes the user pages of the same users. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:52, 4 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
*FYI, even if an account is blocked indefinitely, the autoblock on the IPs is only for twenty-four hours. If the IP block was for as long as the account's block, checkusers wouldn't have to put separate blocks on persistent vandals' IP addresses. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 18:26, 3 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
==Articles==&lt;br /&gt;
Since I've written a few articles on Christianity, please feel free to edit them to conform to the views of Conservapedia if necessary. Admittedly, writing about Christianity as a Jew can be a bit difficult at times. --[[User:RonaldB|Ronald]] ([[User talk:RonaldB|talk]]) 14:35, 5 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I have not seen any factual problems with the articles you created. However, I do recommend that you add categories of the religion you are writing about to those articles. For example, that you add &amp;quot;Category:Christianity&amp;quot; to [[Secular Christianity]] and &amp;quot;Category:Judaism&amp;quot; to [[Secular Judaism]]. The people who practice these are not Jews (religiously speaking) or Christians, but the articles are relevant to those religions.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Also, I recommend that you add at least one source to the articles you create. Adding sources to articles is Commandment #2 in [[Conservapedia:Commandments]], and it makes the articles better for readers. They know where you are getting your information from, and they can read further if they are interested. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:51, 6 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Changing my username ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I don't know if Andy saw my request on his talk page. Did he skip it or didn't see it? --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 9:18, 10 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't know. Sometimes he does that, but when I message him again he usually replies. I recommend commenting again, letting him know how much you want your username changed, and asking him to respond. I think we will do it, but only if you absolutely want it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:49, 10 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I read [[User_talk:Aschlafly#Inquiry|the back and forth]] with the guy you probably were referring to on Andy's page. Andy seemed pretty reluctant to change the RonaldB's name for most of the discussion.. Is the process of changing someone's username complex or difficult to do, or did he just want to make sure that the guy wasn't being wishy-washy about the change? I was a little sheepish about asking him again because I don't want to seem annoying. --[[User:KommissarReb|KommissarReb]] ([[User talk:KommissarReb|talk]]) 5:07, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I think CP admins generally prefer simply creating a new account. The user who made the other request was not the original person using the account. The original person let him take over the account. I can see why Andy wanted him to create a new account. I recommend you politely letting him know how much you want your username changed, and why, and asking him to respond, regardless of his answer. I think that would be a good move on your part. It would show how serious you are with this request. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:06, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Re: Trump ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think Donald Trump is going to get stuck with the blame for the economic bubble created by the Obama administration and the Federal Reserve.[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHwtkIpgAnA]  &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, TrumpCare probably will not work because it is keeping the &amp;quot;precondition clause&amp;quot; of ObamaCare due to its popularity. People will often not buy health insurance until they are sick. So the health care system will not be viable. Car insurance companies could not be profitable if people could buy their car insurance after their car accident in order to replace their car. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:00, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:You are probably right on both of those things. The first point would be the fault of the Obama Administration, and the second by the establishment GOP Congress. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:05, 11 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Got it, thanks for letting me know. --[[User:OneTrueConservative|OneTrueConservative]] ([[User talk:OneTrueConservative|talk]]) 00:12, 12 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:You're welcome. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 00:21, 12 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
== Expansion of right-wing material on the internet ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.axios.com/the-partisan-explosion-of-digital-news-2279022772.html The recent explosion of right-wing news sites]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[https://www.nctv.nl/binaries/psychological-effects-of-right-wing-and-islamic-extremist-internet-videos_tcm31-30177.pdf Psychological effects of right-wing and Islamic extremist videos]  - Netherlands and German report&lt;br /&gt;
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I haven't looked at the latter two items, but right-wingers gaining momentum on the internet is an interesting development.  With nationalism gaining ground in Europe and 21st century [[desecularization]] occurring, the trend is bound to continue. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
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===Scriptural Geology===&lt;br /&gt;
Scriptural Geologists published in the USA as well.  CRSQ published my review of David Lord &amp;quot;Geognosy&amp;quot; (that has other citations as well). [my magazines are in &lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks, Snoopy2, for your addition! I noted this fact, briefly in the article, in &amp;quot;The scriptural geologists&amp;quot; section. I knew that most of the Scriptural Geologists were British, and I did not have the time or knowledge of them to go into much more detail. Thanks for your help! Please remember to sign your posts in the future. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:06, 31 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== important message for you ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I sent you an important message to the last place we communicated. &lt;br /&gt;
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I also have some good news for you. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:10, 13 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== BLOCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!! ==&lt;br /&gt;
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BLOCK THIS GUY!!!!!!!!&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your great blocks but they should generally not exceed 6 months in duration.  By then the IP address is typically being used by someone else.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:27, 27 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK. I will keep that in mind. I will change this vandal's block. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:46, 27 July 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot; ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Björn Höcke nannte das Holocaust-Mahnmal ein &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot;. Zudem sprach er von einer &amp;quot;dämlichen Bewältigungspolitik&amp;quot; und forderte eine &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot;. Hinterher behauptete Höcke, er hätte den Holocaust als Schande bezeichnet. Wenn man sich nun seine Rede genau anschaut, kann er nur das Denkmal als Schande bezeichnet haben. Höcke hat offen NS-Gedankengut offenbart und dies auch gewollt. Er ist ein Agent des BRD-Systems, die zum Ziel haben, die AfD unwählbar zu machen. Dasselbe haben sie schon mit der NPD gemacht (in den 90er Jahren). Ich find's ja auch schade, dass die AfD unterwandert wurde und nicht mehr wählbar ist. Auch ich habe große Hoffnungen in sie gesetzt. Aber spätestens seit dem letzten Parteitag ist sie unwählbar, die Neo-Nazis gewannen die Oberhand, Gauland wurde Spitzenkandidat. Solange Petry keine neue Partei gründet, müssen Rechtschaffene bei der Bundestagswahl das geringste Übel wählen (z.B. die Freien Wähler oder die BüSo). Aber die AfD ist klar von NS-Agenten unterwandert und ich schrieb noch mehr in den Artikel, also lassen Sie mich zumindest Höckes Rede einfügen, dann kann sich jeder selber ein Bild machen. MfG --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 10:16, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Grüetzi Elessar, CP ist ein Englisher website, so es ist besser wann wir in English schreiben. Ich denke dass die meisten leute heir sprechen kein Deutsch. Danke. Wass ich sage ist sehr kontrovers in Deutschland, aber, Ich probiere ein klares und gutes antwort zum geben:&lt;br /&gt;
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:First off, many political parties have their crazy members. I know that UKIP explicitly disavows racism, but it has had some members who have said some silly things. I definitely do ''not'' believe the GOP in the U.S. is racist, but David Duke considers himself a Republican (and every other Republican disavows him). Even the Swiss People's Party in my country (I am also a U.S. citizen) has some members who have said racist things. Just because parties have members like this does not necessarily mean that the entire party is racist or whatever. In the case of Höcke's speech, Petry (the party leader, as you know) condemned what he said, or at least criticized him.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Second, I know the mindset that the German have today. They are still ashamed for what they did during World War II, and they are still focused on trying to make restitution. Personally, I think it is good that they have repented, but they miss the fact that there are two extremes: one extreme is what the Nazis did, the other is being so ashamed bad things one did that they essentially hate their country. We see this with liberals in the United States. I think the German mindset is too far in the second extreme -- and no, I am anywhere close to being a racist or Nazi. Patriotism and nationalism can be very good things, as long as they are handled correctly and are not an excuse to persecute others. The German people, I think, are trying to extinguish them, and they have accused people, even those in the middle of those two extremes, as being Nazis.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Let me also make clear that I have not read much about Björn Höcke's speech, other than what you provided and what his English Wikipedia article states, so I cannot comment on his entire speech and his entire character. He may very well be what you say he is. However, what I read about his speech and about him actually seems reasonable. Many peoples all over the world have done many evil things -- slavery in the U.S. and the other European colonies, the Islamic slave trade, religious persecution in Rome and the communist nations, the several genocides in history, etc. However, it is not constructive for cultures to focus on these events. It is good to remember them and repent of them, but not to obsess about them. There is much more to German history than World War II, just as there is more to U.S. history than slavery. Why can't we build monuments celebrating the positive things about our cultures and our people? It is cultural suicide not to do so. While we should not forget the bad events, we should focus on the good events and remain proud as a people in order to remain strong. This seems to me what Höcke is getting at. Am I wrong?&lt;br /&gt;
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:Reading his Wikipedia article, I came accross this quote: &amp;quot;Die Syrer, die zu uns kommen, haben immer noch Syrien. Wenn wir – durch die Syrer – unser Deutschland verloren haben, dann haben wir keine Heimat mehr.&amp;quot; I can see how in Germany this is very controversial, but I think in most other countries, this is quite reasonable. It may not be a bad thing if Syrians come, but it would mean that the German people would be in danger of disappearing, at least in a cultural sense. If someone values this (as most people of all ethnicies and nationalities do -- just ask the Poles or Hungarians), they will strongly oppose immigration.&lt;br /&gt;
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:Am I wrong in what I am saying? Am I misrepresenting Höcke? I would appreciate some dialogue. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:18, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::No, you aren't wrong and I too was never questioning that the &amp;quot;eternal fault&amp;quot; (electing Hitler/WW2) which is propagated by German liberals is bullshit. I only mean that Höcke was not only saying that, but he also clearly favorized the Holocaust by calling for an &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot; and calling the Holocaust monument a &amp;quot;Denkmal der Schande&amp;quot;. This speech was much criticized by Jewish organizations in Germany and Höcke was forbidden to visit Concentration Camp Memorials. He's not a single exemption, but there are unfortunately already lots of neo-Nazis or neo-Nazi sympathizers in the AfD who are all defending Höcke's speech, including Spitzenkandidat Alexander Gauland. Party leader Petry was forced by them not to participate. These (real) neo-Nazis are system agents who are overrunning the AfD like they did decades ago with the NPD in order to make these parties uneligible by conservative voters. But of course many liberals call all ''real'' conservatives &amp;quot;neo-Nazis&amp;quot; which there is nonsense. But Höcke is really a neo-Nazi and anti-semite and should be excluded together with his inner-party defenders. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 14:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::It seems to me that you are making a jump from noting what Höcke is saying to calling him a neo-Nazi. A lot of what he is saying seems reasonable, even if it is better that he watches what he says more closely, and I don't see how these comments make them neo-Nazis (I do see, however, how such comments are far outside the current German mainstream, and that they make such parties less attractive to moderate Germans). It seems to me that Höcke is a nationalist who is angry at the culture of shame in his country, which is probably the reason why it is being flooded with immigrants and weakened by the EU. Many conservatives said silly things (that sounded extremely racist) about Obama when he was U.S. President, even though those people would have voted for conservative blacks (Ben Carson, Allen West, Herman Cain) or Hispanics (Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz) in a heartbeat. Could it be that this is what Höcke is doing?&lt;br /&gt;
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::::Sorry about the term &amp;quot;b***&amp;quot; but I'm as angry as you about the &amp;quot;eternal fault&amp;quot; dogma. And you are completely right with most (including the Jews being too liberal in Europe), but in my opinion the quote &amp;quot;erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot; is like he wanted to say &amp;quot;The Holocaust was nothing bad&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;not so bad&amp;quot; or so. Like it would be Holocaust relativation. Maybe Höcke really didn't mean anything bad in his speech but then he's simply uncaring of what he says because he damages his party with such unclear statements. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 16:34, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:::::As we disagree on his speech (even though I do think your last comment was very reasonable), I chose to move the info to another place in the article and re-word it. If you have any problems with how I re-worded it, we can discuss that as well. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 1 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::::::Björn Höcke said in whole this: &amp;quot;Wir Deutschen – und ich rede jetzt nicht von euch Patrioten, die sich hier heute versammelt haben – wir Deutschen, also unser Volk, sind das einzige Volk der Welt, das sich ein Denkmal der Schande in das Herz seiner Hauptstadt gepflanzt hat.&amp;quot; This means, not German patriots but the other Germans (liberals e.g.) have founded the Holocaust monument which he calls a Denkmal der Schande. Which means, according to him true German patriots wouldn't have built the Holocaust monument, which can be interpreted as he's pro-Holocaust. The same interpretation is open in his other quote &amp;quot;Wir brauchen eine erinnerungspolitische Wende um 180 Grad&amp;quot;. Maybe he didn't want to relativate the Holocaust but he should watch out what he says, especially if his party wants to enter a coalition. A coalition with establishment parties wouldn't be bad as long as the AfD maintains its goals and gets many of them into a government program. --[[User:Elessar|Elessar]] ([[User talk:Elessar|talk]]) 01:37, 2 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi - not sure why you changed my edits on the BREXIT page - I tried to provide an accurate account of what is happening and what is being reported by many news outlets --unsigned comment by HORSEMAN&lt;br /&gt;
:Hello &amp;quot;HORSEMAN&amp;quot;, I removed the info about the potential referendums because this was just speculation that died down. I also thought that some of your wording (such as the &amp;quot;full complexity and impacts of BREXIT become apparent&amp;quot; and by removing the mention of the EU being obstructionist) seemed to insert a left-of-center bias into the article. CP is a conservative encyclopedia, and we align firmly with Brexit and Euroskepticism. However, I will see if I can re-add some of your wording. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:31, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Another problem is that for the part about the proposed payments and EU citizen rights, you did not provide sources. The existing info already had a source, and you changed the info while keeping the source. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:35, 10 August 2017 (EDT) &lt;br /&gt;
:::Hi Again, would this link suffice http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-17-2001_en.htm It is the definitive statement from the EU negotiating team and sets out the negotiating agenda. Thanks Horseman&lt;br /&gt;
::::You can definitely cite the source, but do you also have third party sources as well? I see nothing in the EU source about the monetary amount of the settlement. We prefer sources with conservative editorial stances. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:57, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Is this syitable, I don't pay for Telegraph articles so only have this link. Thanks Horseman&lt;br /&gt;
::::::The Telegraph is one of numerous conservative news organizations. Besides, their non-commentary articles are free for viewing. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:13, 10 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==[[Margaret Sanger]] revision that you undid==&lt;br /&gt;
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:You could write &amp;quot;Planned Parenthood eventually expanded to support the form of murder known as abortion.&amp;quot; Something like that. We should keep the wording encyclopedic, as this is not a blog or anything like that. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:05, 18 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Sorry about that, I wasn't aware you had already blocked TimJim when I blocked him, so I reset the block length back to that of your original block. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 22:45, 19 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi I'd be happy to move those articles you are requesting, but as you know, I cannot avoid the creation of redirects.  Let me know if you want this, but hopefully you can get it done the right way. It's also probably easier to ask for a move than a delete. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:43, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:I appreciate your offer, David, but I think it would be better if I keep it simple for Andy, rather than explain that the articles were moved and that he only has to delete the redirect -- having one person do it is more simple. Thanks anyway! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:46, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::Agreed...okay.  I didn't want to cut in and disrupt things, but just thought I'd offer.  Cheers! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:49, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I do appreciate your offer, David. Thanks! It looks like Andy just moved the articles. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:50, 21 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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You can email me at wirepaladin36@gmail.com [[User:RobSmith|RobS]]&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;[[User talk:RobSmith|''Deep Six the Deep State!'']]&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 11:22, 26 August 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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1990s guy, I just want to verify u could read the Theistic ev. entry and 1994 film clip on my user talk.  any comments?&lt;br /&gt;
:I could watch it, but would you please explain what it's about in a little more detail? --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 14:55, 11 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Maybe I was too pessimistic. Good news ==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Why [[Democrats]] Should Be''' Losing Sleep Over Generation Z.[https://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleystahl/2017/08/11/why-democrats-should-be-losing-sleep-over-generation-z/]&lt;br /&gt;
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Bye for now. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:47, 5 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks for the article. Bye for now. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:48, 5 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== File comparison tool ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Did Cons ever get back to you with the comparison tool?  I'm curious about it, and whether it does a good job of checking for copied content.  The problems that it appears to solve are different from the problems of comparison tools used in software development.  I'm curious about whether it uses line hashing, sentence hashing, word group hashing, and things like that.  I'd like to try it out, and not just at CP.  In fact, probably not at all for CP; I'm not interested in who plagiarizes what at CP, though, when I am, I use other techniques to catch people.  I'm just curious as to whether those other techniques have been automated.&lt;br /&gt;
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:I can assure you that the tool exists. I have not tried it yet and thus cannot answer your question. I have no reason to try it as JDano's essays were deleted, so I recommend that you ask Conservative directly these things. Maybe he will share it with you. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:23, 12 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Great!!  I'm still very much interested in it.  Is it a &amp;quot;cloud app&amp;quot;?  Is it a downloadable app that I can run locally on my own computer?  Can you send me a URL?&lt;br /&gt;
::By the way, the standard wiki comparison of your last edit to the [[Guy Verhofstadt]] article, just as a random example, shows how bad text comparers can be.  [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 17:40, 13 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:::You are going to have to ask Conservative for the details of the tool -- he told me not to give it away to anyone, and while I personally have no problem with sharing it with you, I shouldn't go against what he said. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:43, 13 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Well, this is really weird.  Cons seems to be trying to censor the internet itself, hiding the location of this tool.  And he seems to think that only you can be trusted with it.  He said &amp;quot;I will share this tool with 1990sguy [...] so he can evaluate your [JDano's] efforts in an objective way.&amp;quot;  I of course took this as a challenge.  A Google search for &amp;quot;similar page checker tool&amp;quot; gets a number of hits.  Ignoring the ones that cost a lot of money, and those that attempt to check a given page against the entire internet, narrowed it down to a few.  This one: [https://www.duplichecker.com/similar-page-checker.php] seems to be the right thing.  It's a &amp;quot;cloud app&amp;quot; rather than an installable program, but I can put up with that.  It has the same appearance&amp;amp;mdash;color and layout&amp;amp;mdash;as the screenshot that Cons posted and removed.  I ran it on the versions of this page before and after your recent reply to me, and it said they were 100% the same.  I'm not particularly happy about that, but the additional text was only about 0.3 percent of the total, so I suppose I can accept that.  Then I ran it on versions that differ in length by 10% (the 100K version and the 110K version.)  It said they were 98% similar.  Not good.  But I still might find it to be a useful tool.  There are pages not relating to JDano that could benefit from such an analysis.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Getting help==&lt;br /&gt;
I am trying to fix the stuff on the Corporate bullies page.  Am still learning my way around on how to use things.   Think I am starting to get it though.   The Georgia 2016 stuff has a lot of info and I am in the process of editing it, though it's going to take a while (at least 20 or more minutes.  I'm trying though.  (BTW, if I wasn't supposed to edit here, sorry.  I don't know how to reply to your remark otherwise.) [[User:PatriotMongoose|PatriotMongoose]] ([[User talk:PatriotMongoose|talk]]) 22:31, 15 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:It's OK to edit here. I recommend that you read CP's guidelines, and probably more importantly, that you read [[Help:How to edit a website like Conservapedia]]. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:34, 15 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Fabulous block and reverts==&lt;br /&gt;
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Fabulous block and reverts this afternoon!!!!  Well done!!!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 18:51, 21 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks, Andy! :) --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 18:52, 21 September 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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User: JohnZ fails to recognize that my interest to be a referee to protect a marginal online sparring partner (whose greatest achievement was his dogged stubbornness to ignore facts/evidence)  was largely protected by his edits to main space articles and my desire for an online sparring partner. &lt;br /&gt;
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His rudeness to other editors and his desire to barely skate by with his main space edits certainly did not help matters. In addition, given the [[decline of the atheist movement]] and it now being a hopeless cause destined to ever increasing irrelevance, my desire for an atheist online sparring partner is non-existent at this point given my current/future priorities. &lt;br /&gt;
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If he wants to create two quality, well-sourced original articles of at least 2,00 words on these topics [[Anti-religious Soviet Union propaganda]] and [[Christian persecution in communist China]] to restore his other editing privileges, that is what is required. &lt;br /&gt;
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He would also have to pledge to refrain from hurling insults to other editors (idiot, etc.). [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:01, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Hopefully he'll do it. We've given him these opportunities before and he rejected them. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:18, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
::I made a minor adjustment to his requirements for fully restoring his editing privileges in case someone creates articles on those subjects. &lt;br /&gt;
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::Secondly, ardent secular leftists generally always double down regardless of any contrary facts/evidence presented to them. Of course, you never know what is going to happen. The Apostle Paul went from being one of Christianity's chief opponents to being its greatest champion. He will just need to be open minded. &lt;br /&gt;
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::It is very widely recognized that there is and has been religious persecution in communist China and that there was anti-religious propaganda in the former Soviet Union. So I am giving him ample opportunity to show that he is not a close-minded individual given to hurling insults. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 22:31, 3 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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I would say no to this for a couple reasons. The first is his blatant disrespect of everyone here, and he has shown that multiple times. The gist of it is a pretense of superiority over us, as if it is mandatory that we listen to him; he stated a short time ago that some of us are idiots for not engaging him in conversation. Which I might add is his kind of conversation. &lt;br /&gt;
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The second reason is that he's a leftist brand of liberal from Great Britain, which means we cannot change his way of thinking whatsoever. Unfortunately for someone who is that close-minded he is going to go into lock-step with every other like-minded individual in his country, which would mean the loss of the United Kingdom as a political entity within a few years time. In his case, he is more concerned with picking a fight with the users of a small American conservative website then he is with what he and his kind are allowing to happen in Britain, namely the Islamic takeover. As a leftist, he probably feels he can get along with them in the name of diversity and multiculturalism, but when all is said and done he will either be forced on his hands and knees with his butt high in the air, or he'll have his head chopped off.  &lt;br /&gt;
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:Karajou, if you look at my comment to his talk page, you will see that I am giving him an opportunity to show that he can be open-minded and reasonable by writing on two topics related to atheistic communism persecution of Christians/religious (namely [[Christian persecution in communist China]] and [[Anti-religious propaganda in the Soviet Union]]) via two quality articles of at least 2,000 words.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:38, 4 November 2017 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Anti-Christian bias in Wikipedia ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello 1990'sguy. Am I being hypersensitive or is Wikipedia's anti-Christian bias increasing?  For example, the recent dispute about content at Answers in Genesis.[https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AAnswers_in_Genesis&amp;amp;type=revision&amp;amp;diff=810473662&amp;amp;oldid=810471171] I see also that User:Synthetic Woolly Mammoth[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Synthetic_Woolly_Mammoth] has just been blocked, allegedly for being a sockpuppet of Biscuittin, but more likely because he has been speaking up in support of some Christian editors. [[User:Desmonduk|Desmonduk]] ([[User talk:Desmonduk|talk]]) 05:27, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I know another editor who has extensively edited topics related to Christianity and atheism on WP, and he told me that the ati-Christian bias on the site was much worse back around 2012. The militant atheists don't have as much power as they did back then. However, the anti-Christian bias obviously is still very bad, especially on YEC topics, which I have been dealing with for years already. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:20, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Block length ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Thanks for your alert block of new user &amp;quot;CPishilarious&amp;quot;, but I'm going to change the block duration from 2 years to 1 month.  Long blocks are disfavored on wikis because they block the IP address as well as the user.  The IP address could be a library or other general access IP address, or the user could move or be a college student, or the user could have a change of heart.  But thanks again for your quick action.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:11, 20 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:OK, and you're welcome. I have seen blocked vandals come back with their same accounts after their blocks expire, so I wanted to protect against that. But I will shorten blocks like these in the future. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 08:54, 21 November 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Thanks so much for your alert block this morning, but again the block duration is too long.  Another user could be trying to use that same IP address within a few months, or the user himself could have a change of heart.  I'll shorten it to 4 months.  Thanks!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 11:25, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Andy, it feels like I'm the only editor you're messaging about block length, ''even though my blocks are much shorter than most other editors.'' For example, just yesterday, I blocked two accounts for six months for having a silly username and for (relatively) non-serious vandalism, but shortly later, DMorris reset the blocks for 5 years. See here: [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Bernieman][http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Hillary_clinton] If you're going (for good reason) to message me for my blocks, please do the same for the other editors who prefer even longer blocks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:33, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::But yes, I will still shorten my blocks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 13:36, 4 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggested article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Here is an article suggestion:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Donald Trump and evangelicals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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I think there would be public interest in such an article. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 16:20, 9 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks. If I get time, I will start this article. I will add it to my list of articles to create. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:16, 9 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Two things ==&lt;br /&gt;
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For one, why do you not have email enabled? Secondly, consider longer blocks for these obviously malicious accounts. You can block an account for infinity and the autoblock on the IP still only lasts 24 hours. There is no reason for these sleeper accounts to come back to life three months later. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 16:19, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:In his defense, he was doing longer blocks until [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length|Andy started asking him not too]], then [[User_talk:1990'sguy#Block_length_2|reminded him again]]. --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 16:25, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Yes, for crying out loud, why am I the only one being criticized for my block lengths? If I make my block lengths long, Andy posts on my talk page, and if I make my block lengths shorter, DMorris posts on my talk page.&lt;br /&gt;
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::DMorris, please talk to Andy about this. I will continue making my blocks on the shorter side until your differing opinions are sorted out.&lt;br /&gt;
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::About my email, I have my email address posted on my user page. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 16:46, 13 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Articles of the year: 2017 - your article is being featured on the main page (left side) ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Donald Trump achievements]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[European migrant crisis]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheists and genetic mutations]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Keep up the good work.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]])&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 22:12, 24 December 2017 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Nationalism v Globalism ==&lt;br /&gt;
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I went ahead and added a link to the Gardner article on the Nationalism v Globalism article for you.  I figured since we were referencing it, it would be good to see the original article too.--[[User:Whizkid|Whizkid]] ([[User talk:Whizkid|talk]]) 23:52, 7 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! I already saw and added it to other articles where I mentioned Gardner. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 23:53, 7 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Homeschooling==&lt;br /&gt;
I deleted the paragraph on Texas requirements (which I originally added) since it was duplicative of the information I added from HSLDA (which covers all 50 states) regarding state requirements.  I left the New Hampshire one since it involved a court imposing its will on a family in violation of state law.&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm glad you liked my original work, but after finding something better and covering more than just one state, I amended my original work.  Though after your comments, I revised it to explain that another state court (Texas) made homeschooling far easier than before.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 17:22, 29 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 17:27, 29 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Deep State==&lt;br /&gt;
I will agree with your removal of the word &amp;quot;theory&amp;quot;, but I did add the phrase &amp;quot;(or are believed to control)&amp;quot; because there are many conservative Christians who are not totally convinced that the deep state really exists.  I believe my edits will be a happy medium between those who hold to the deep state view and those who do not. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 15:11, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I kept most of your &amp;quot;is believed/considered&amp;quot; wording (except for the first sentence, which is unnecessary as the first sentence already makes clear that &amp;quot;deep state&amp;quot; is a term and not necessarily reality. I found most of your other changes to be too wordy and unnecessary, so I reverted some of it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:04, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::I looked at your revisions and all you did was revert to your original article, with a few minor edits to try to convince me that you really took my suggestions into consideration.  Basically what you did to the article is like putting wood filler and new paint on a house with termite rot.  I've dealt with folks like you over on &amp;quot;the other site&amp;quot;, who think that once they write an article, it's perfect and can't accept any changes to it.  I'm not going to waste time with this one any more; clearly you're trying to espouse tinfoil hat conspiracy theory under the guise of &amp;quot;Christian conservatism&amp;quot;.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:22, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Much of your changes involved inserting parenthetical notes, which I think made the article more bloated than it had to be. The &amp;quot;or are believed to control&amp;quot; phrase in the first sentence was simply unnecessary and overemphasized your disbelief in the deep state. The part about Wall Street was cited to a good research article, so I don't think we need the &amp;quot;is believed&amp;quot; language for that. But I will still see if I can incorporate more of your edits.&lt;br /&gt;
:::About the existence of the deep state, it and the drive for one-world government are things that should be common and uncontroversial knowledge -- but people (both supporters and detractors) &amp;quot;conspiracize&amp;quot; these things and that's how accusations of me wearing a tinfoil hat come about. Look at the evidence -- most of our society (except theologically conservative Christians, most of them probably being premillennialist) accept the Idea of Progress, adopted during the Enlightenment Era. They believe that humanity is progressing for the better, and that this will lead to a one-world utopia with world peace and freedom for humanity (read Kant, for example). Thus, they believe that national identity, subsidiarity, and national sovereignty are growing useless and antiquated and actually are impediments to this utopia. This flows into their policies -- advancing international organizations, taking away national sovereignty, etc. As for the deep state, just look at the whole DOJ/FBI stuff going on right now, or the fact that Republicans and Democrats hire administration personnel from the same group of organizations -- CFR, Trilateral, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
:::The garbage that there is some secret conspiracy by liberals to take over the world, that their motives are malevolent, that they want to do evil, that this is a short-term project, and that the Illuminati is involved with all this -- this is all garbage perfectly fit for &amp;quot;the other site&amp;quot;. In reality, the drive for a one-world utopia is one of the fundamental philosophical views in our culture, and liberals openly see it as natural/normal/benign (and they're in it for the long haul). --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:04, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Suggested Name Change for [[Christmas and Easter Catholic]] ==&lt;br /&gt;
I propose changing this to &amp;quot;Christmas and Easter Christian&amp;quot;, since the phenomenon of persons attending church on those days is by no means limited to Catholics. [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 16:17, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I disagree. I recommend that a separate article entitled &amp;quot;Christmas and Easter Christian&amp;quot; be created -- C&amp;amp;E Catholicism is a notable concept on its own right, enough to have its own article. I think an article on C&amp;amp;E Christianity in general would be a good addition. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 20:07, 30 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::What's the difference?  Both are the same phenomenon -- &amp;quot;so-called&amp;quot; Christian believers who attend only during those two holidays (or weddings and funerals).  The current article is fine, it just needs to be revised to not pick on one branch of Christianity.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 09:17, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::I've heard Roman Catholics specifically mentioned much more than other Christians when hearing about this &amp;quot;phenomenon.&amp;quot; But I will ask another editor of his opinion on this. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:32, 31 January 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Campaign promises==&lt;br /&gt;
Hello,&lt;br /&gt;
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The thought occurred to me that Wikipedia does not normally catalog campaign promises.(It never has, that I have seen)  Elections there follow a formula of &amp;quot;what did they actually do after getting elected&amp;quot; and election results - which is both boring and completely useless, because we have a big problem with people running for office one way and then governing another way.  This leaves a glaring hole of accountability with all of our politicians and it also offers us an opportunity to distinguish ourselves from Wikipedia.  What do you think about this?  I made a few changes [[Bruce Rauner|here]] as an example start.  [[User:Progressingamerica|Progressingamerica]] ([[User talk:Progressingamerica|talk]]) 15:00, 4 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:I think your suggestion is a great idea -- we have too many politicians who make really great promises during election campaigns, but they later act like they never even made those promises. When Rauner and his GOP primary opponent (Jeanne Ives) sat down with the ''Chicago Tribune'' editorial board a few days ago, Rauner said that he never promised he would veto a major pro-abortion bill that he ultimately signed (he actually explicitly promised he would multiple times).[http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/30/jeanne-ives-crushes-gop-gov-bruce-rauner-illinois-candidates-meet-first-time/][http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/31/conservative-jeanne-ives-rips-il-gov-bruce-rauner-abortion-flip-flop/]&lt;br /&gt;
:I can also think of Sen. Thom Tillis of NC who campaigned against amnesty in 2014 and is now advocating for a &amp;quot;conservative&amp;quot; amnesty bill (though it's inferior to the Goodlatte bill).&lt;br /&gt;
:I support your suggestion. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 15:11, 4 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== FPÖ ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hi, I just wanted to ask you why you have removed [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Freedom_Party_of_Austria&amp;amp;diff=1403167&amp;amp;oldid=1403166 my entry] on the article of the Freedom Party of Austria. The [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kreisky%E2%80%93Peter%E2%80%93Wiesenthal_affair Kreisky–Peter–Wiesenthal affair] is an important event in the history of this party that should not be discreeted.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 09:41, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:First off, the info was inserted right in the middle of a paragraph discussing the FPO's ideological development and alliance with the SPO. Your info was out of place.&lt;br /&gt;
:Second, the info was unduly wordy. I am sick of seeing the media and leftists do everything in their power to tie right-wing conservative parties like the FPO to Nazi Germany, such as by unduly emphasizing those aspects of the parties and calling them &amp;quot;far-right&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;extreme right&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;ultra-right&amp;quot;, etc. By American conservative standards, these parties are actually quite moderate, and for those of us who realize that Nazism is a vastly overrated threat (placed alongside climate change by the Left), such parties have clearly moved away from their pasts.&lt;br /&gt;
:I don't want our articles to accept the left-wing narratives of these right-wing populist parties. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 09:50, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::Well, all the informations I have put in the article were confirmed with trustworthy sources. [[Simon Wiesenthal]] who accused the FPÖ leader Friedrich Peter of being part in a unit which committed massacres against jews, was himself a Conservative. Wiesenthal supported the (at that time very conservative) Austrian People's Party. So it is not easy to label his accusations as &amp;quot;left-wing narratives&amp;quot;. I am also pretty sure that the Conservative government of Israel does not spread &amp;quot;left-wing propaganda&amp;quot; if they criticize the party for its charged history. Instead of simply removing facts from the article, you might emphasize how the FPÖ moved away from its past.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 10:01, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::Israel is a Jewish state, so issues related to the Holocaust are sensitive to them. But as much as I support Israel and its right-wing government, Israel's position toward the FPO is irrational, and they are unduly obsessed with Nazism like Western Europe is. Israel's opinion on the FPO means very little because of the context -- it's easy to offend Israel on matters like this.&lt;br /&gt;
:::About Wiesenthal, I don't know anything about him, but him supporting the OVP does not mean much to me. If the party were &amp;quot;very conservative&amp;quot;, why did it support the EU, Maastricht Treaty, Schengen Agreement, etc.&lt;br /&gt;
:::And yes, these are the narratives promoted by the Left, the establishment, and the media. These are the same people who were comparing Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler during the election campaign and who tried to smear Breitbart News as anti-Semite (despite loads of evidence to the contrary), among many other cases. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:17, 7 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::::Just because these &amp;quot;narratives&amp;quot; are promoted by the Left it does not mean that they are wrong. I can ensure you that Simon Wiesenthal was never a supporter of left-wing policies. As I already told you it would be better to emphasize the current measures by Strache to reappraise the controversial history of this party instead of denying it.--[[User:JoeyJ|JoeyJ]] ([[User talk:JoeyJ|talk]]) 11:20, 8 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:::::They're wrong -- they overemphasize every small and petty incident related to parties like the FPO that allude to Nazi Germany. Their point in doing so is to make it seem like that if we elect these people/parties into power (including Donald Trump), we'll be repeating 1933 all over again and will usher in the end of freedom in Europe -- never mind that Germany is still enforcing the Nazi ban on homeschooling, or that many Western European countries have free speech restrictions even on topics like Islam and homosexuality, or etc. Conservapedia will not go along with the media -- we acknowledge that parties like the FPO are conservative and/or right-wing (not &amp;quot;far-right&amp;quot; or &amp;quot;neo-Nazi&amp;quot;) and the best choice in order to protect/expand freedom and protect European culture/patriotism. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:58, 8 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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== request ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Can you create this article: [[Donald Trump's major achievements]]? [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:39, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:This seems like a good idea, and I will do it. I won't do it immediately, since I have a lot of other things to do, but I will create it soon. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 12:54, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
::OK. Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:18, 9 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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I'm very sorry about the article. If it make you feel like a advertisement. However, everything that is state is true. Thank you for your understanding. Pleased assist by make any corrections. That you think is necessary. When your time is most convenient. &lt;br /&gt;
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Your brother in Christ,&lt;br /&gt;
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:Thanks for your message, but the article I deleted is not acceptable for Conservapedia. There is nothing I can do to change that, unless you receive coverage from good sources (Breitbart, Fox, etc.). I'm keeping the other article for now, since it's one I can imagine keeping, but I'm discussing it with other editors to see what to ultimately do about it. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:00, 21 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Could you add some categories to my page please? [[User:Willow Smith|Willow Smith]] ([[User talk:Willow Smith|talk]]) 11:26, 22 February 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Response to your complaints==&lt;br /&gt;
From what appears EVERY time someone creates a new page or edits an existing one:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Please note that all contributions to Conservapedia may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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If the real rule is &amp;quot;any contributions by Conservapedia administrators -- no matter how good, bad, or ugly they may be -- are fixed for all time and never to be altered&amp;quot;, then make that the rule.  But don't invite someone to improve things, then complain because they do.  [[User:Quidam65|Quidam65]] ([[User talk:Quidam65|talk]]) 10:26, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
:Your bolding does not improve things. Also, nobody reverted your turning pages into redirects -- it's just a good idea to let people know before making major unilateral changes. If your complaint is that I'm messaging you about these things, then you have no real complaint at all. If you make edits here, you (like I was, and still am to an extent) are bound to be messaged about these things, which other editors do with the intention of improving others' editing. --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 10:37, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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::Additionally, administrators and editors alike must watch the activity of others, especially newer editors.  A few people have the hobby of trying to vandalize CP in any way possible, so excuse us if we sound cynical or obstinate, but some &amp;quot;new users&amp;quot; are actually just the same vandals as always.  Since we don't really know you yet, we do our best to assume good intent, but can't afford to ignore what seems to be odd behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
::I'm sure you'll do fine, if you just listen to the recommendations of others and keep improving content.  Thank you for your efforts, and for understanding! --[[User:DavidB4|&amp;lt;font color=&amp;quot;ForestGreen&amp;quot;&amp;gt;David B&amp;lt;/font&amp;gt;]] &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]])&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt; 17:16, 6 March 2018 (EST)&lt;br /&gt;
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==Thank you for the intro==&lt;br /&gt;
Just wanted to say thank you for the welcome!  PS--Do you know what an eagle does when a storm approaches?  [[User:Bcarlin|Bcarlin]] ([[User talk:Bcarlin|talk]]) 20:34, 21 March 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Double standard article is now unprotected ==&lt;br /&gt;
1990sguy, I unprotected the [[Double standard]] article.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:16, 3 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
:Thanks! --[[User:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy]] ([[User talk:1990&amp;amp;#39;sguy|talk]]) 11:43, 3 April 2018 (EDT)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Regarding the Whale article ==&lt;br /&gt;
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Hello,&lt;br /&gt;
I would like to know what caused you to revert my edits to the Whale article, and what I could do in the future to avoid this.&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Atheism.jpg|thumb|alt=atheism|right|205px|[[Portrait]] of [[Paul-Henri Thiry]], Baron d'Holbach (1723 - 1789) was an early advocate of atheism in [[Europe]]. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
'''Atheism''', as defined by the ''[[Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy]]'', the ''[[Routledge Encyclopedia of Philosophy]]'', and other [[philosophy]] reference works, is a lack of belief or a disbelief in the existence of [[God]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Smart, J. J. C. (August 8, 2011). [http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/atheism-agnosticism &amp;quot;Atheism and agnosticism&amp;quot;]. ''The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy'' (Spring 2013 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.). &lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism &amp;quot;{{sc|atheism}}&amp;quot;] (n.d.). ''Merriam-Webster Dictionary'' [online]. &amp;quot;Definition of {{sc|atheism}} '''1 a''': a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods '''b''': a philosophical or religious position characterized by disbelief in the existence of a god or any gods [example sentences omitted] Origin and Etymology of {{sc|atheism}} Middle French ''athéisme'', from ''athée'' atheist, from Greek ''atheos'' godless, from ''a-'' + ''theos'' god&amp;quot;; [https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/god &amp;quot;{{sc|god}}&amp;quot;] (n.d.). ''Merriam-Webster Dictionary'' [online]. &amp;quot;Definition of {{sc|god}} '''1''' ''capitalized'': the supreme or ultimate reality: such as '''a''': the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe&amp;quot; [definitions 2 and 3 omitted.] Retrieved on April 22, 2018. &lt;br /&gt;
*Atheism: a + theos, denying god, (Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology-1966).&lt;br /&gt;
*Sarfati, Jonathan, Ph.D. (23 June 2007). [http://creation.com/atheism-is-more-rational &amp;quot;Atheism is more rational?&amp;quot;].  See [[Creation Ministries International]], [[Jonathan Sarfati]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Day, Donn R. (2007). [http://www.thedivineconspiracy.org/athart3.htm &amp;quot;Atheism - etymology&amp;quot;].&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0131a.html Putting the Atheist on the Defensive] by Kenneth R. Samples, Christian Research Institute Journal, Fall 1991, and Winter 1992, page 7.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  [[Paul Edwards (philosopher)|Paul Edwards]], who was a prominent atheist and editor of the ''[[Encyclopedia of Philosophy]]'', defined an atheist as &amp;quot;a person who maintains that there is no God.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;CRI&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0131a.html Putting the Atheist on the Defensive] by Kenneth R. Samples, Christian Research Institute Journal, Fall 1991, and Winter 1992, page 7.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Beginning in the latter portion of the 20th century and continuing beyond, many [[agnosticism|agnostics]] and atheists have argued that the [[definition of atheism]] should be a lack of belief in God or gods.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;CRI&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Divine&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Day, Donn R. (2007).  [http://www.thedivineconspiracy.org/athart3.htm &amp;quot;Atheism - etymology&amp;quot;].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/definition-of-atheism Definition of atheism] by [[William Lane Craig]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Britain is a less religious country than the United States and the online Oxford Dictionaries offers both the narrow/broad definitions of atheism (As noted in a previous footnote the Merriam-Webster dictionary, which is a traditional American dictionary, offers a more narrow definition of atheism similar to the definition that major encyclopedias of philosophy use). Oxford Dictionaries: Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.[http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Atheism has been examined by many disciplines in terms [[Atheism statistics|of its effects]] on individuals and [[Atheism and culture|on societies]] and these effects will be covered below.&lt;br /&gt;
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As far as individuals adopting an [[Atheist worldview|atheistic worldview]], atheism has a number [[causes of atheism|of causal factors]] and these will be elaborated on below as well.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Types of atheism==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Schools of atheist thought]] and [[Atheist factions]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Diagoras of melos.jpg|thumbnail|150px|right|[[Diagoras of Melos]] was an [[Ancient Greece|ancient Greek]] atheist, poet and [[Sophism|Sophist]] of the 5th century BC.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[History of Atheism|history of atheism]] can be dated to as early as the 5th century B.C. [[Diagoras of Melos]] was a 5th century B.C. [[Greek]] atheist, poet and [[Sophism|Sophist]]. Since this time, there have been many [[schools of atheist thought]] that have developed. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Atheism and why do atheists state they disbelieve?===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Weak Atheism|Weak atheism]] and [[Strong atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists claim there are two main reasons for their denial of the existence of God and/or disbelief in God: the conviction that there is positive evidence or argument that God does not exist ([[strong atheism]], which is also sometimes called positive atheism), and their claim that [[theism|theists]] bear the burden of proof to show that God exists, that they have failed to do so, and that belief is therefore unwarranted ([[Weak Atheism|weak atheism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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As alluded to above, theists and others have posited a number of [[causes of atheism]] and this matter will be further addressed in this article.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Attempts to broaden the definition of atheism ===&lt;br /&gt;
In 1876, [[Charles Bradlaugh]] proposed that atheism does not assert &amp;quot;there is no God,&amp;quot; and by doing so he endeavored to dilute the traditional definition of atheism.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Divine&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*Discussion on Atheism: Report of a Public Discussion Between the Rev. Brewin Grant, B.A., and C. Bradlaugh, Esq., Held in South Place Chapel, Finsbury, London, on Tuesday Evenings, Commencing June 22, and Ending July 27, 1875, on the Question, &amp;quot;Is Atheism Or is Christianity the True Secular Gospel, as Tending to the Improvement and Happiness of Mankind in this Life by Human Efforts and Material Means.&amp;quot;. Brewin Grant Charles Bradlaugh, January 1, 1890, Anti-liberation Society, page 10-12 [https://books.google.com/books?id=Dwk3yV5MOaAC&amp;amp;pg=PA10&amp;amp;lpg=PA10&amp;amp;dq=Charles+Bradlaugh+definition+of+atheism&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=JtjIlK7qaJ&amp;amp;sig=E0HjYgfEyKXdEA4zlLAd9m41cQU&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ved=0CEgQ6AEwB2oVChMIrcijucWLyAIVCXA-Ch00NACw#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=Charles%20Bradlaugh%20definition%20of%20atheism&amp;amp;f=false]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  As noted above, in the latter portion of the 20th century, the proposition that the definition of atheism be defined as a mere lack of belief in God or gods began to be commonly advanced by agnostics/atheists.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Divine&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/definition-of-atheism Definition of atheism] by [[William Lane Craig]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  It is now common for atheists/agnostics and theists to debate the meaning of the word atheism.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Divine&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.apatheticagnostic.com/articles/meds2/med40/med796.html The Atheism Vs. Agnosticism “Debate”] &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/american_english/atheism Oxford Dictionaries]. Oxford Dictionaries, due to their British influence (Atheism is more popular in Britain than in the United States and many other countries where English is spoken, see: [[Atheist Population|Atheist population]] and [[Secular Europe]] and [[Atheism statistics]]), now offers the definition of atheism to be &amp;quot;Disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.&amp;quot; which is a departure from its historical meaning before a broader definition of atheism began to be more widely advocated in the latter portion of the 20th century (see: [http://www.thedivineconspiracy.org/athart3.htm &amp;quot;Atheism - etymology&amp;quot;])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Critics of a broader definition of atheism to be a mere lack of belief often point out that such a definition is contrary to the traditional/historical meaning of the word and that such a definition makes atheism indistinguishable from agnosticism.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;CRI&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Divine&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.apatheticagnostic.com/articles/meds2/med40/med796.html The Atheism Vs. Agnosticism “Debate”]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.reasonablefaith.org/definition-of-atheism Definition of atheism] by [[William Lane Craig]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://carm.org/cut-atheism Atheism] by Matt Slick&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Some common types of atheism ===&lt;br /&gt;
Below are a few common ways that atheism manifests itself:&lt;br /&gt;
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'''1.''' [[Militant atheism]], which continues to suppress and oppress religious believers today.&lt;br /&gt;
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Topics related to militant atheism:&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Atheism and communism]] &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Atheism and intolerance]]&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[New Atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''2.''' Philosophical atheism - Atheist philosophers assert that God does not exist. (See also: [[Naturalism (philosophy)|Naturalism]] and [[Materialism]])&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Secular humanism]]  is a philosophy which holds that human beings are the most important figures, and that social problems are best solved without the involvement of religious doctrine.&lt;br /&gt;
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The philosophy of [[postmodernism]] is atheistic (see: [[Atheism and postmodernism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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'''3.''' Atheistic [[Buddhism]] (some schools of Buddhism are theistic)&lt;br /&gt;
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'''4.''' [[Practical atheism]]: atheism of the life - that is, ''living'' as though God does not exist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dr. [[Martin Luther King]] in his sermon ''Rediscovering Lost Values'' spoke of &amp;quot;practical atheism&amp;quot;.  King, Dr. Martin Luther (1954). [http://www.globatron.org/truth/rediscovering-lost-values-martin-luther-king-early-sermon &amp;quot;Rediscovering lost values&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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'''5.''' Other schools of atheist thought: [[Schools of atheist thought]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheist factions ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist factions]] and [[Western atheism, schisms and political polarization]] and [[Atheist organizations]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Richard Dawkins Stockholm.JPG|alt=Richard Dawkins|thumbnail|250px|right|[[Richard Dawkins]] was a central figure in the [[Elevatorgate]] controversy.]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 2015, Dr. J. Gordon Melton said about the [[atheist movement]] (organized atheism) that atheism is not a movement which tends to create community, but in the last few years there has been some growth of organized atheism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0i4kuN9XSc Baylor ISR- J. Gordon Melton - End of Religion? (May 5, 2015)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheist factions]] and [[Atheist organizations]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Jacques Rousseau wrote in the ''Daily Maverick'': &amp;quot;[[Elevatorgate]]..has resulted in three weeks of infighting in the secular community. Some might observe that we indulge in these squabbles fairly frequently.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rousseau, Jacques (July 13, 2011). [http://dailymaverick.co.za/opinionista/2011-07-13-sticks-and-stones-may-break-my-bones-but-words-can-rip-my-soul &amp;quot;Sticks and stones may break my bones, but words can rip my soul&amp;quot;]. Daily Maverick [South Africa].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; An ex-atheist wrote: &amp;quot;As an Atheist for 40 years, I noticed that there is not just a wide variety of [[Schools of atheist thought|Atheist positions]], but there exists an actual battle between certain [[Atheist factions]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2013/04/internet-atheism-is-still-hostile.html &amp;quot;The atheist community and internet atheism is still a hostile wasteland&amp;quot;] (April 7, 2013).  Question Evolution Campaign [blog].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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==== Atheist infighting ====&lt;br /&gt;
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Blair Scott served on the [[American Atheists]] board of directors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.archive.org/web/20140701062412/http://atheists.org/about-us/board-of-directors &amp;quot;Board of directors&amp;quot;] (July 1, 2014).  American Atheists&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Mr. Scott formerly served as a State Director for the [[American Atheists]] organization in the state of [[Alabama]].  On December 1, 2012, he quit his post as a director of outreach for the American Atheists due to infighting within the American [[atheist movement]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Blair Scott&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Scott, Blair (December 1, 2012). [http://news.atheists.org/2012/12/01/an-open-letter-from-blair-scott/ &amp;quot;An open letter from Blair Scott&amp;quot;].  American Atheists.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr. Blair wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|I have spent the last week mulling over what I want to do at this point in the movement. I’m tired of the in-fighting: at every level. I am especially tired of allowing myself to get sucked into it and engaging in the very behavior that is irritating...me.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Blair Scott&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist Neil Carter wrote: &lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Friends of mine have noted lately how biting and critical the atheist community can be, not only toward outsiders, but even toward its own members. Has there ever been a subculture more prone to eating its own than this one? I really don’t know.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godlessindixie/2016/06/12/its-past-time-for-atheism-to-grow-up/ It’s Past Time for Atheism to Grow Up] by Neil Carter&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist [[David Smalley]] said about the atheist movement: &amp;quot;We're eating our own... We’re disintegrating.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dogmadebate/2017/06/reasonably-controversial-regressive-left-killing-atheist-movement/ Reasonably Controversial: How the Regressive Left Is Killing the Atheist Movement] by David Smalley&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Atheist infighting causing fundraising difficulties ====&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist organizations and fundraising]] and [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising]] and [[Atheism and charity]] &lt;br /&gt;
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In 2017, the [[atheist activist]] Lee Moore declared about [[American atheism|American atheist]] organizations:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|If you look at the major atheist groups right now, like the national groups, the ones that are doing the real activist work... They are not bringing in the kind of donations they used to.  Most of them are starved for cash. They're downsizing left and right. Because people aren't just giving like they used to. And I talked to a lot of the major donors out there and they said, &amp;quot;Well, we're kind of tired of seeing the atheist community just fight amongst itself and not really get anything done. We'd rather not give money if we don't think it's going to go somewhere.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvG6LKUbOdk Lee Moore and Steve Shives Talk About the Future of the Atheist Movement],&lt;br /&gt;
- video quote comes 21 minutes and 13 seconds into the video&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Eddie Tabash on atheist argumentativeness ====&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and social/interpersonal intelligence|Atheism and social intelligence]] and [[Atheism and emotional/intrapersonal intelligence|Atheism and emotional intelligence]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[American atheism|American atheist]] activist [[Eddie Tabash]] said in a speech to the Michigan Atheists State Convention, &amp;quot;Since we are a bit of a cantankerous, opinionated lot...&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ld9Rfw5HUs Atheists Speak Up - Eddie Tabash - Part 2 of 4]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Angry and bitter demeanor of militant atheists ====&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and anger]] and [[Atheism and forgiveness|Atheism and unforgiveness]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Angry atheist.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|An angry atheist speaking to a woman with a Bible in her hand. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Christian philosopher James S. Spiegel says that the path from Christianity to atheism among several of his friends involved moral slippage such as resentment or unforgiveness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-philosopher-explores-causes-of-atheism-44353/ Christian Philosopher Explores Causes of Atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See:  [[Atheism and forgiveness|Atheism and unforgiveness]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
On January 1, 2011, [[CNN]] reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|People unaffiliated with organized religion, atheists and agnostics also report anger toward God either in the past, or anger focused on a hypothetical image - that is, what they imagined God might be like - said lead study author Julie Exline, Case Western Reserve University psychologist.&lt;br /&gt;
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In studies on college students, atheists and agnostics reported more anger at God during their lifetimes than believers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Landau, Elizabeth (January 1, 2011).  [http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/01/anger-at-god-common-even-among-atheists/ &amp;quot;Anger at God common, even among atheists&amp;quot;].  CNN/The Chart website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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According to Anthony DeStefano:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|But are (atheists) really dangerous, too?&lt;br /&gt;
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You bet they are. The truth is, the atheist position is incapable of supporting any coherent system of morality other than ruthless social Darwinism. That’s why it has caused more deaths, murders and bloodshed than any other belief system in the history of the world.&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists, of course, are always claiming hysterically that Christianity has been responsible for most of the world’s wars, but that’s just another example of atheistic ignorance. The main reasons for war have always been economic gain, territorial gain, civil and revolutionary conflicts.  According to Philip Axelrod’s monumental &amp;quot;Encyclopedia of Wars,&amp;quot; only 6.98 percent or all wars from 8000 BC to present were religious in nature. If you subtract Islamic wars from the equation, only 3.2 percent of wars were due to specifically Christian causes.  That means that over 96 percent of all the wars on this planet were due to worldly reasons.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today's atheists&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/20/todays-atheists-are-bullies-and-are-doing-their-best-to-intimidate-rest-us-into-silence.html Today's atheists are bullies -- and they are doing their best to intimidate the rest of us into silence] at Fox News&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Various studies found that traumatic events in people's lives has a positive correlation with &amp;quot;emotional atheism&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Carter, Joe (January 12, 2011). [http://www.firstthings.com/web-exclusives/2011/01/when-atheists-are-angry-at-god &amp;quot;When atheists are angry at God&amp;quot;].  First Things [The Institute on Religion and Public Life] website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist and [[lesbianism|lesbian]] [[Greta Christina]] told the journalist Chris Mooney on the Point of Inquiry podcast, &amp;quot;there isn't one emotion&amp;quot; that affects atheists &amp;quot;but anger is one of the emotions that many of us have ...[it] drives others to participate in the movement.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mooney, Chris (May 14, 2012).  [http://www.pointofinquiry.org/greta_christina_why_are_you_atheists_so_angry/ &amp;quot;Greta Christina—Why are you atheists so angry?&amp;quot;] [interview of Greta Christina] Point of Inquiry website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Social science research indicates that [[Antitheism|antitheists]] score the highest among atheists when it comes to personality traits such as [[narcissism]], dogmatism, and anger.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://shadowtolight.wordpress.com/2013/07/18/science-shows-new-atheists-to-be-mean-and-closed-minded/ &amp;quot;Science shows new atheists to be mean and closed-minded&amp;quot;] (July 18, 2013).  Shadow to Light [blog].&lt;br /&gt;
*Haidt, Jonathan (March 5, 2014).  [https://evolution-institute.org/article/why-sam-harris-is-unlikely-to-change-his-mind10/  &amp;quot;Why Sam Harris is unlikely to change his mind&amp;quot;]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Furthermore, they scored lowest when it comes to agreeableness and positive relations with others.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://shadowtolight.wordpress.com/2013/07/18/science-shows-new-atheists-to-be-mean-and-closed-minded/ &amp;quot;Science shows new atheists to be mean and closed-minded&amp;quot;] (July 18, 2013).  Shadow to Light [blog].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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For additional information, please see: [[Atheism and interpersonal intelligence|Atheism and social intelligence]] and  [[Atheism and emotional/intrapersonal intelligence|Atheism and emotional intelligence]] and [[Atheism and forgiveness|Atheism and unforgiveness]] and [[Atheism and bitterness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and its retention rate in individuals  ==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and its retention rate in individuals]] and [[Atheism and children]] and [[Desecularization]] and [[Atheism and apathy]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Georgetown 2.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|In 2012, a [[Georgetown University]] study was published indicating that about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household in the United States remain atheists as adults.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;retention rate&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Nazworth, Nap (July 11, 2012). [http://www.christianpost.com/news/study-atheists-have-lowest-retention-rate-compared-to-religious-groups-78029/ &amp;quot;Study: atheists have lowest 'retention rate' compared to religious groups&amp;quot;]. christianpost.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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See: [[Atheism and its retention rate in individuals]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 2012, a [[Georgetown University]] study was published indicating that only about 30 percent of those who grow up in an atheist household remain atheists as adults.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;retention rate&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;  See also: [[Atheism and children]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A 2012 study by the General Social Survey of the social science research organization NORC at the University of Chicago found that belief in God rises with age, even in atheistic nations.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Harms, William (April 18, 2012). [http://news.uchicago.edu/article/2012/04/18/belief-god-rises-age-even-atheist-nations &amp;quot;Belief in God rises with age, even in atheist nations&amp;quot;.] UChicagoNews.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Pew Forum reports about [[American atheism|American atheists]]: &amp;quot;Among self-identified atheists and agnostics, the median age is 34, and roughly four-in-ten adults in these categories are between the ages of 18 and 29.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.pewforum.org/2015/05/12/chapter-3-demographic-profiles-of-religious-groups/ Chapter 3: Demographic Profiles of Religious Groups], Pew Forum&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and immaturity]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, in atheistic Communist China, [[Christianity]] is experiencing rapid growth (see: [[Growth of Christianity in China]]).  Also, there was a collapse of atheism in the former [[Soviet Union]] (see: [[Collapse of atheism in the former Soviet Union]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Difficulty in participating in atheist community ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and loneliness]] and [[Atheism and apathy]] and [[Internet atheism]] and [[Atheists and church attendance]]&lt;br /&gt;
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According to an international study done by William Bainbridge, atheism is frequent among people whose interpersonal social obligations are weak and is also linked to lower fertility rates in advanced industrial nations (See also: [[Atheism and fertility rates]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bainbridge, William (2005). &amp;quot;[http://www.religjournal.com/pdf/ijrr01002.pdf Atheism]&amp;quot; (PDF). Interdisciplinary Journal of Research on Religion. 1 (Article 2): 1–26.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and loneliness]] and [[Atheism and interpersonal intelligence|Atheism and social skills]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In comparison to many religious groups, which have many meetings/conferences in numerous places in a given day or week which are convenient to attend, atheist meetings and [[atheist conferences]] are sparse.  One of the causes of this situation is the apathy of many atheists (see: [[Atheism and apathy]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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In recent times, the number of people attending atheist conferences has grown smaller.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/tippling/2017/07/13/10923/ Whoever I Don’t Like Is Ruining the Atheist Movement] by Jeremiah Traeger&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/dogmadebate/2017/06/reasonably-controversial-regressive-left-killing-atheist-movement/ Reasonably Controversial: How the Regressive Left Is Killing the Atheist Movement] by David Smalley&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luT2vQ3ctKU #ReasonRally Crash n burn. Thanks SJWs!] by [[Thunderf00t]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Atheist [[David Smalley]] wrote: &amp;quot;And we wonder why we’re [[Atheism and politics|losing elections]], [[Atheist fundraising vs. religious fundraising#Atheist organizations and fundraising|losing funding]], and our conferences are getting smaller.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; In 2017, the atheist activist Lee Moore said about atheist conferences, &amp;quot;Most conferences are gone now. They're either gone or in some kind of life support form.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvG6LKUbOdk Lee Moore and Steve Shives Talk About the Future of the Atheist Movement], video, quote comes at the 11 minute and 44 seconds point of the video&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Jerry Coyne at The Amazing Meeting - 2013.jpg|thumbnail|left|200px|[[Jerry Coyne]] speaking at a 2013 [[Atheist conferences|atheist meeting]] entitled The Amazing Meeting (TAM). TAM is an annual meeting. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
Atheist Francois Tremblay wrote about the difficulty of motivating atheists to engage in activities related to atheism: &amp;quot;One last problem that undermines any propagation of atheism is inspiration. Let's be honest here, &amp;quot;there is no god!&amp;quot; is not a very motivating call for most people.&amp;quot; (see also: [[Atheism and inspiration]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.liberator.net/articles/TremblayFrancois/herdingcats.html Herding Cats: Why Atheism Will Lose] by Francois Tremblay&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The atheist [[Jerry Coyne]] said about atheist meetings/conferences, &amp;quot;But to me the speakers and talks have often seemed repetitive: the same crew of jet-set skeptics giving the same talks.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2011/06/10/are-there-too-many-atheist-meetings/ Are there too many atheist meetings?] by Jerry Coyne&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In an essay entitled ''How the [[Atheist movement|Atheist Movement]] Failed Me'', an [[atheism and women|atheist woman]] noted that participation in the atheist community is often expensive due to the cost of attending [[atheist conferences]] and even local atheist meetings in restaurants and bars challenged her modest budget.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Amanda (August 10, 2012).  [http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2012/08/10/how-the-atheist-movement-failed-me-part-1-cost/ &amp;quot;How the atheist movement failed me–part 1: cost&amp;quot;].  Friendly Atheist blog.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  As a result of the challenges that atheists commonly have in terms of socializing in person, many atheists [[Internet atheism|turn to the internet]] in terms of communicating with other atheists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Norris, Chuck (May 21, 2007).  [http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=55789 &amp;quot;How to outlaw Christianity (steps 2 &amp;amp; 3)&amp;quot;].  WorldNetDaily. See: [[Chuck Norris]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Often internet communication between atheists turns turns contentious (see: [[Atheist factions]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Abandonment of atheism and communist regimes ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Growth of Christianity in China]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Collapse of atheism in the former Soviet Union]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Collapse of atheism in the former Soviet Union#Growth of Protestantism in Russia|Growth of Protestantism/Evangelicalism in Russia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Decline of the atheist movement ==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Decline of the atheist movement]] and [[Desecularization]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Jacques Berlinerblau.jpg|thumbnail|250px|right|In 2011, atheist [[Jacques Berlinerblau]] declared: &amp;quot;The Golden Age of [[Secularism]] has passed.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;chronicle.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Berlinerblau, Jacques (February 4, 2011).  [http://chronicle.com/blogs/brainstorm/obama-at-the-national-prayer-breakfast-raging-christ-fest-secular-wake/31816 &amp;quot;Obama at the National Prayer Breakfast&amp;quot;].  The Chronicle of Higher Education/Brainstorm blog.  Retrieved on May 29, 2015.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Numerous atheists have declared that the &amp;quot;[[atheist movement]] is dead&amp;quot; or that it is dying.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://freethoughtblogs.com/reasoner/2017/10/21/the-atheism-movement-dead-or-alive/ The “Atheism Movement:” Dead or Alive?], [[Freethought Blogs]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2017/11/seth-andrews-keeps-hearing-reports-of.html Atheist activist Seth Andrews keeps seeing reports on social media and the media that the atheist movement is dying], ''Examining Atheism''&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://examiningatheism.blogspot.com/2017/10/now-that-that-poseur-atheist-aron-ra.htmlAtheist Aron Ra indicates the atheist movement is dead. Now that that Aron Ra has surrendered....], ''[[Examining Atheism]]''&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.atheistrev.com/2013/12/the-day-atheist-movement-died.html The Day the Atheist Movement Died] by Jack Vance at Atheist Revolution&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://twitter.com/jennifurret/status/405391218273554433 Jennifer McCreight on Twitter about the Elevatorgate scandal destroying the atheist movement], [[Jen McCreight]], Twitter&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In 2017, atheist [[David Smalley]] has indicated that [[leftism|leftist]]/[[progressivism|progressive]] atheists were &amp;quot;killing the atheist movement&amp;quot; through being contentious and divisive (see also: [[Atheist factions]]).&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;patheos.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;  Former [[New Atheism|new atheist]] [[PZ Myers]], who subscribes to progressive politics, says he is no longer a member of the atheist movement.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2017/08/26/get-out-a-message-for-the-atheist-movement/ Get Out! A message for the atheist movement] by PZ Myers&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist movement saw a number of setbacks during the latter portion of the 20th century and beyond in terms of historical events/trends (See: [[Causes of desecularization]]).  As a result, it has lost a considerable amount of confidence (see also: [[Decline of the atheist movement]] and [[Atheists and the endurance of religion]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Globally, the [[atheist population]] is declining in terms of percentage of the world's population that are atheists (see: [[Global atheism statistics]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==Atheism and Communism ==&lt;br /&gt;
''see also:'' [[Atheism and communism]] and [[Militant atheism]] and [[Atheism and economics]] and [[Atheism and Mass Murder|Atheism and mass murder]] and [[Atheist cults]] and [[Atheism and Karl Marx]] &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Image:Khvhkgfiy.jpg|left|thumbnail|200px|[[Vladimir Lenin]]]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheists Karl Marx, Vladmir Lenin and Chou En-lai ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Karl Marx]] said &amp;quot;[Religion] is the opium of the people.&amp;quot;  Marx also stated: &amp;quot;[[Communism]] begins from the outset (Owen) with atheism; but atheism is at first far from being communism; indeed, that atheism is still mostly an abstraction.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mulligan, Martin (1959). [http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1844/manuscripts/comm.htm &amp;quot;Private property and communism&amp;quot;] translation of Marx, Karl (1932), ''Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844'' (Moscow:  Progress Publishers).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Vladimir Lenin]] similarly wrote regarding atheism and Communism: &amp;quot;A Marxist must be a [[materialism|materialist]], i.e., an enemy of religion, but a dialectical materialist, i.e., one who treats the struggle against religion not in an abstract way, not on the basis of remote, purely theoretical, never varying preaching, but in a concrete way, on the basis of the [[class struggle]] which is going on in practice and is educating the masses more and better than anything else could.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rothstein, Andrew and Issacs, Bernard (1973). [http://www.marxists.org/archive/lenin/works/1909/may/13.htm &amp;quot;The attitude of the worker's party to religion&amp;quot;] translation of Lenin, Vladimir (1909), ''Proletary'', No. 45, May 13 (26), ''Collected Works'', (Moscow: Progress Publishers) vol. 15, pp. 402-13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1955, the [[China|Chinese]] Communist leader Chou En-lai declared, &amp;quot;We Communists are atheists&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Noebel, David, The Battle for Truth, Harvest House, 2001.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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In 2014, the Communist Party of China reaffirmed that members of their party must be atheists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/19567-china-s-communist-party-reaffirms-marxism-maoism-atheism China’s Communist Party Reaffirms Marxism, Maoism, Atheism], ''New American'', 2014&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/02/02/china-communist-party-atheism-zhejiang-ban-religious-members-christianity_n_6599722.html China's Communist Party Bans Believers, Doubles Down On Atheism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2016, the ''International Business Times'' reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|A senior Chinese advisor on religious affairs has said the country should promote atheism throughout society, in remarks that appear to reflect a deepening campaign to reinforce traditional Marxist values in China — and could add to concern about official attitudes among believers in the country’s five officially recognized religions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ibtimes.com/senior-chinese-religious-advisor-calls-promotion-atheism-society-2363850 Senior Chinese Religious Advisor Calls For Promotion Of Atheism In Society], ''International Business Times''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Russian revolution caused the most notable spread of atheism ===&lt;br /&gt;
According to the [[University of Cambridge]], historically, the &amp;quot;most notable spread of atheism was achieved through the success of the 1917 [[Russian Revolution]], which brought the [[Marxism-Leninism|Marxist-Leninists]] to power.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Marxism-Leninism&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|url=http://web.archive.org/web/20130728215151/http://www.investigatingatheism.info/marxism.html|title=Investigating atheism: Marxism|publisher = [[University of Cambridge]]|quote=The most notable spread of atheism was achieved through the success of the 1917 Russian Revolution, which brought the Marxist-Leninists to power. For the first time in history, atheism thus became the official ideology of a state.|year=2008|accessdate=July 17, 2014}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Vitalij Lazarʹevič Ginzburg, a Soviet physicist, wrote that the &amp;quot;[[Bolshevik]] communists were not merely atheists but, according to [[Lenin]]'s terminology, militant atheists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Lenin &amp;amp; militant atheism&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite book|url = http://books.google.com/books?id=ufC9Ar8iuDcC&amp;amp;pg=PA161&amp;amp;dq=The+Bolshevik+communists+were+not+merely+atheists+but,+according+to+Lenin%27s+terminology,+militant+atheists.&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=1oFUUdj6PIiK0QGvq4CAAw&amp;amp;redir_esc=y#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=The%20Bolshevik%20communists%20were%20not%20merely%20atheists%20but%2C%20according%20to%20Lenin's%20terminology%2C%20militant%20atheists.&amp;amp;f=false|title =''On Superconductivity and Superfluidity: A Scientific Autobiography'' |author=Vitalij Lazarʹevič Ginzburg|publisher = Springer Science+Business Media|pages=161|year=2009|quote=The Bolshevik communists were not merely atheists but, according to Lenin's terminology, militant atheists.|accessdate = July 17, 2014}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, prior to this, the [[Reign of Terror]] of the [[French Revolution]] established a state which was anti-[[Roman Catholicism]]/Christian in nature &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Tallet, Frank and Atkin, Nicholas (1991). [http://books.google.com/books?id=aL4lsWdd-rAC&amp;amp;dq=&amp;amp;hl=en ''Religion, Society and Politics in France Since 1789''] (London: A &amp;amp; C Black), pp. 1-17. GoogleBooks archive.&lt;br /&gt;
*Spielvogel, Jackson J. (2006).  [http://books.google.com/books?id=ni4PSpOxb6MC&amp;amp;dq ''Western Civilization: Combined Volume''] (Belmont, CA:  Thomson Wadsworth), p. 549.  GoogleBooks archive.&lt;br /&gt;
*Latreille, A. (2002).  &amp;quot;French Revolution&amp;quot;, ''New Catholic Encyclopedia'' (2nd ed., Farmington Hills, MI:  Thomson/Gale), vol. 5, pp. 972–973.  ISBN 0-7876-4004-2&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (anti-clerical [[deism]] and anti-religious atheism and played a significant role in the French Revolution&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Hunt, Lynn and Censer, Jack (2001).  [http://chnm.gmu.edu/revolution/chap7c.html &amp;quot;War, Terror and Resistence&amp;quot;, ch. 7, p. 3].  Liberty, Equality, Fraternity:  Exploring the French Revolution website.  George Mason University website/Roy Rosenzweig Center for History and New Media website. &lt;br /&gt;
*O'Leary, Margaret R. (June 1, 2012).  ''Forging Freedom: The Life of Cerf Berr of M Delsheim'' (iUniverse), pp. 1-2.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;), with the official ideology being the [[Cult of Reason]]; during this time thousands of believers were suppressed and executed by the [[guillotine]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- Guillotine --&amp;gt;*{{cite book|url = http://books.google.com/books?id=bf3m7IVAa9gC&amp;amp;pg=PA461&amp;amp;dq=France+atheism+guillotine++Christians+executed&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=l4lUUaTRBufG0QGe0IHACA&amp;amp;redir_esc=y#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=France%20atheism%20guillotine%20%20Christians%20executed&amp;amp;f=false|title =''Christianity: The eBook''|author=James Adair|publisher = JBE Online Books|year=2007|quote=Although the Civil Constitution called for religious liberty, which was extended to Jews as well as Christians, many revolutionaries pushed for the establishment of a new state religion, either the Cult of Reason (atheists) or the Cult of the Supreme Being (Deists). Changes to the calendar eliminated references to Christian holidays, and even the ancient seven-day week, and a list of officially recognized saints included such famous thinkers such as Socrates, Jesus, Marcus Aurelius, and Jean-Jacques Rousseau. A period of political persecution, often with religious overtones, broke out, known as the Reign of Terror. Thousands of people were executed by the guillotine, including many of the original leaders of the French Revolution.|pages=461|accessdate = July 18, 2014}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- France --&amp;gt;*{{cite book|url = http://books.google.com/books?id=9WkBAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA105&amp;amp;dq=Reign+of+Terror+atheism&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=HoRUUcD0NeXX0gGNo4HIDQ&amp;amp;redir_esc=y#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=Reign%20of%20Terror%20atheism&amp;amp;f=false|title =''Memoirs of the Reign of George III. to the Session of Parliament ending A.D. 1793'', Volume 5|page=105|author=William Belsham|publisher = G.G. &amp;amp; J. Robinson|year=1801|quote=In allusion to the monstrous transactions of this portentous period, it has been eloquently and energetically observed, 'that the reign of atheism in France was avowed the reign of terror. In the full madness of their career, in the highest climax of their horrors, they shut up the temples of God, abolished His worship, and proclaimed death to be an eternal sleep:—in the very centre of Christendom, Revelation underwent a total eclipse, while atheism, performing on a darkened theatre its strange and fearful tragedy, confounded the first elements of society, blended every age, rank, and sex, indiscriminate proscription and massacre, and convulsed all Europe to its centre, that the imperishable memorial of these events might teach the last generations of mankind to consider religion as the pillar of society, the parent of social order, and the safe-guard of nations.'&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;quot;It is wonderful that, amid the horrors of this dismal period, while 'the death dance of democratic revolution' was still in rapid movement, among the tears of affliction, and the cries of despair, 'the masque, the song, the theatric scene, the buffoon laughter, went on as regularly as in the gay hour of festive peace.'|pages=105–6|accessdate = July 18, 2014}}&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;!-- Reign of Terror --&amp;gt;*{{cite book|url = http://books.google.com/books?id=Tt5rqiCP1p8C&amp;amp;pg=PA57&amp;amp;dq=Reign+of+Terror+atheism&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=HoRUUcD0NeXX0gGNo4HIDQ&amp;amp;redir_esc=y#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=Reign%20of%20Terror%20atheism&amp;amp;f=false|title =''Christianity, Islam, and Atheism: The Struggle for the Soul of the West''|author=William Kilpatrick|publisher = Ignatius Press|year=2012|quote=Actually, it's helpful to think in terms of two Enlightenments: the Enlightenment that cut itself off from God. The former led to the American Revolution, the Declaration of Independence, the abolition of slavery, and the civil rights movement. The latter led to the French Revolution, the Reign of Terror, the suppression of church by state, and the godless philosophies of Marx and Nietzsche and their offspring—National Socialism and communism. More recently the abandonment of God has led to the regime of cultural relativism that regards rights as arbitrary constructions.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;quot;It's this second Enlightenment tradition that Cardinal Ratzinger referred to when he wrote, 'The radical detachment of the Enlightenment philosophy from its roots ultimately leads it to dispense with man.' Actually this transition happened not 'ultimately' but almost immediately. The first instance occurred when Enlightenment worship of abstract 'reason' and 'liberty' degenerated quickly into the mass murders committed during the antireligious Reign of Terror in France. 'Liberty, what crimes are committed in your name', said Madam Rolande as she faced the statue of Liberty in the Place de la Revolution movements before her death at the guillotine. She was one of the early victims of a succession of secular systems based on rootless notions of 'liberty', 'equality', and 'reason'.&amp;lt;br&amp;gt;&amp;quot;As many historians have pointed out, the atheist regimes of modern times are guilty of far more crimes than any committed in the name of religion. Communist governments alone were guilty of more than one hundred million murders, most of them committed against their own people.|pages=57|accessdate = July 18, 2014}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheistic Communism and mass murder ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and Mass Murder|Atheism and mass murder]] and [[Atheist atrocities]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Stalin-Lenin.jpg|right|202px|thumb|The militant atheistic regime of [[Joseph Stalin]] killed tens of millions of people. &lt;br /&gt;
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It has been estimated that in less than the past 100 years, governments under the banner of Communism have caused the death of somewhere between 40,472,000 and 259,432,000 human lives.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~hpcws/lelivrenoir.htm &amp;quot;''The Black Book of Communism''&amp;quot;].  Harvard University, Faculty of Arts and Sciences website:  Cold War Studies.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Rummel, R. J. (November 1993).  [http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM &amp;quot;How many did communist regimes murder?&amp;quot;]  University of Hawaii website; Freedom, Democracy, Peace; Power, Democide, and War&lt;br /&gt;
*White, Matthew (February 2011).  [http://necrometrics.com/20c5m.htm &amp;quot;Source list and detailed death tolls for the primary megadeaths of the twentieth century&amp;quot;].  Necrometrics&lt;br /&gt;
*Radosh, Ronald (February 2000).  [http://www.firstthings.com/article.php3?id_article=2526 &amp;quot;''The Black Book of Communism: Crimes, Terror, Repression''&amp;quot;]. First Things [journal] website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Dr. R. J. Rummel, professor emeritus of political science at the University of Hawaii, is the scholar who first coined the term democide (death by government). Dr. R. J. Rummel's mid estimate regarding the loss of life due to communism is that communism caused the death of approximately 110,286,000 people between 1917 and 1987.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Rummel, R. J. (November 1993).  [http://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/COM.ART.HTM &amp;quot;How many did communist regimes murder?&amp;quot;]  University of Hawaii website; Freedom, Democracy, Peace; Power, Democide, and War.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Richard Dawkins]] has attempted to [[Richard Dawkins, atheist atrocities, and historical revisionism|engage in historical revisionism concerning atheist atrocities]] and Dawkins was shown to be in gross error. See also: [[Atheism and historical revisionism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Christian apologist Gregory Koukl wrote relative to [[Atheism and Mass Murder|atheism and mass murder]] that &amp;quot;the assertion is that religion has caused most of the killing and bloodshed in the world.&lt;br /&gt;
There are people who make accusations and assertions that are empirically false. This is one of them.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Koukl&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Koukl, Gregory (February 20, 2013). [http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=5527 &amp;quot;The real murderers:  atheism or Christianity?&amp;quot;] Stand to Reason.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Koukl details the number of people killed in various events involving theism and compares them to the much higher tens of millions of people killed under regimes which advocated atheism.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Koukl&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;  As noted earlier, Richard Dawkins has attempted to [[Richard Dawkins, atheist atrocities, and historical revisionism|engage in historical revisionism concerning atheist atrocities]] and Dawkins was shown to be in gross error.&lt;br /&gt;
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Koukl summarized by stating:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|It is true that it's possible that religion can produce evil, and generally when we look closer at the detail it produces evil because the individual people are actually living in a rejection of the tenets of Christianity and a rejection of the God that they are supposed to be following. So it can produce it, but the historical fact is that outright rejection of God and institutionalizing of atheism actually does produce evil on incredible levels. We're talking about tens of millions of people as a result of the rejection of God.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Koukl&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Vox Day|Theodore Beale]] notes concerning atheism and mass murder:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Apparently it was just an amazing coincidence that every Communist of historical note publicly declared his atheism … .there have been twenty-eight countries in world history that can be confirmed to have been ruled by regimes with avowed atheists at the helm … These twenty-eight historical regimes have been ruled by eighty-nine atheists, of whom more than half have engaged in democidal acts of the sort committed by Stalin and [[Mao Zedong|Mao]] … &lt;br /&gt;
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The total body count for the ninety years between 1917 and 2007 is approximately 148 million dead at the bloody hands of fifty-two atheists, three times more than all the human beings killed by war, civil war, and individual crime in the entire twentieth century combined.&lt;br /&gt;
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The historical record of collective atheism is thus 182,716 times worse on an annual basis than Christianity’s worst and most infamous misdeed, the Spanish Inquisition. It is not only Stalin and Mao who were so murderously inclined, they were merely the worst of the whole [[Atheism and Hell|Hell]]-bound lot. For every Pol Pot whose infamous name is still spoken with horror today, there was a Mengistu, a Bierut, and a Choibalsan, godless men whose names are now forgotten everywhere but in the lands they once ruled with a red hand.&lt;br /&gt;
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Is a 58 percent chance that an atheist leader will murder a noticeable percentage of the population over which he rules sufficient evidence that atheism does, in fact, provide a systematic influence to do bad things? If that is not deemed to be conclusive, how about the fact that the average atheist crime against humanity is 18.3 million percent worse than the very worst depredation committed by Christians, even though atheists have had less than one-twentieth the number of opportunities with which to commit them. If one considers the statistically significant size of the historical atheist set and contrasts it with the fact that not one in a thousand religious leaders have committed similarly large-scale atrocities, it is impossible to conclude otherwise, even if we do not yet understand exactly why this should be the case. Once might be an accident, even twice could be coincidence, but fifty-two incidents in ninety years reeks of causation!&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;marry&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ammi, Ken (June 11, 2009).  [http://creation.com/atheism &amp;quot;Atheism&amp;quot;].  Creation Ministries International.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and communism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Communism and religious oppression ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Communism and religious persecution]] and [[Atheistic communism and torture]] and [[Atheism and forced labor]] and [[China and involuntary organ harvesting]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The atheism in Communist regimes has been and continues to be militant atheism and various acts of repression including the razing of thousands of religious buildings and the killing, imprisoning, and oppression of religious leaders and believers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Kent, Jo Ling (April 28, 2011). [http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/04/28/china.church.crackdown/index.html?hpt=T2 &amp;quot;Underground Christians fear China crackdown&amp;quot;]. CNN.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Yakovlev, Alexander N. (2002). [http://books.google.com/books?visbn=0300103220&amp;amp;id=ChRk43tVxTwC&amp;amp;pg=PA165&amp;amp;lpg=PA165&amp;amp;ots=ICIxg28Jud&amp;amp;dq=a+century+of+violence+in+soviet+russia+the+Russian+Orthodox+clergy&amp;amp;ie=ISO-8859-1&amp;amp;sig=C9k9Hr7Vn222WCHf_1iSJOHVsgo#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=&amp;amp;f=false ''A Century of Violence in Soviet Russia''] translated by Austin, Anthony (New Haven: Yale University Press), p. 165.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Braga, Fr. Roman (1996). [http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/frroman1.aspx &amp;quot;On compromise in the hierarchy during the Communist yoke&amp;quot;].  Orthodox Christian Information Center.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Clyne, Meghan (November 16, 2005). [http://www.nysun.com/article/23082?page_no=1 &amp;quot;Korean reds targeting Christians&amp;quot;]. The New York Sun&lt;br /&gt;
*Siemon-Netto, Uwe (May 7, 2003). [http://northkoreanchristians.com/chinese-atrocities.html &amp;quot;North Korean and Chinese atrocities against Christians worsen&amp;quot;].  NewsMax.  NorthKoreanChristians.com &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35818 &amp;quot;China sends Bible owners to labor camp&amp;quot;] (November 26, 2003). WorldNetDaily. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.epm.org/resources/2003/Jun/12/chinese-police-proudly-record-their-torture-christ/ Chinese Police Proudly Record Their Torture of Christians], By Voice of the Marytrs|June 12, 2003&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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==== Religious persecution in the Soviet Union ====&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Soviet atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[persecution of Christians in the USSR|persecution of Christians in the Soviet Union]] was the result of the violently atheist [[Soviet]] government.  In the first five years after the [[October Revolution]], 28 bishops and 1,200 priests were murdered, many on the orders of [[Leon Trotsky]].  When [[Joseph Stalin]] came to power in 1927, he ordered his secret police, under [[Genrikh Yagoda]] to intensify persecution of Christians.  In the next few years, 50,000 clergy were murdered, many were [[torture]]d, including [[crucifixion]].  &amp;quot;Russia turned red with the blood of martyrs&amp;quot;, said Father Gleb Yakunin of the [[Russian Orthodox Church]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ostling, Richard N. (December 4, 1989).  [http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,150718,00.html &amp;quot;Cross meets Kremlin: Gorbachev and Pope John Paul II&amp;quot;]. ''Time''. Time magazine website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  According to Orthodox Church sources, as many as fifty million Orthodox believers may have died in the twentieth century, mainly from persecution by [[Communists]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Moore, Rev. Fr. Raphael (October 1999). [http://www.serfes.org/printerVersion2.asp?URL=/orthodox/memoryof.htm &amp;quot;In memory of the 50 million victims of the Orthodox Christian Holocaust&amp;quot;], Spiritual Nourishment for the Soul, Serfes, Rev. Archimandrite Nektarios, compiler.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:China location.png|thumbnail|left|205px|With its large population, China has the largest population of atheists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thechapmans.nl/news/Atheist.pdf &amp;quot;The largest atheist/agnostic populations&amp;quot;].  Chris &amp;amp; Terri Chapman. Countries with the largest atheist populations.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The religious landscape of China is quickly changing, however, due to the rapid growth of Christianity. See also: [[China and atheism]] and [[Global atheism]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
In addition, in the atheistic and Communist Soviet Union, 44 anti-religious museums were opened and the largest was the 'The Museum of the History of Religion and Atheism' in [[Leningrad]]’s Kazan cathedral.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Humphrey (December 16, 2008). [http://bedejournal.blogspot.com/2008/12/merry-anti-christmas.html &amp;quot;Merry Anti-Christmas!&amp;quot;] Quodlibeta.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Despite intense effort by the atheistic leaders of the Soviet Union, their efforts were not effective in converting the masses to atheism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Humphrey (December 16, 2008). [http://bedejournal.blogspot.com/2008/12/merry-anti-christmas.html &amp;quot;Merry Anti-Christmas!&amp;quot;] Quodlibeta. &lt;br /&gt;
*Froese, Paul (March 2004). [http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/bpl/jssr/2004/00000043/00000001/art00003?crawler=true &amp;quot;Forced secularization in Soviet Russia:  why an atheistic monopoly failed&amp;quot; [abstract&amp;amp;#93;].  ''Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion'', vol. 43, 1, pp. 35-50.  Abstract: Ingentaconnect&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====  Religious persecution in Communist China ====&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[China and atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[China]] has the world's largest atheist population (see: [[China and atheism]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thechapmans.nl/news/Atheist.pdf Top 50 Countries With Highest Proportion of Atheists / Agnostics (Zuckerman, 2005)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/23/a-surprising-map-of-where-the-worlds-atheists-live/ A surprising map of where the world’s atheists live], ''Washington Post'' By Max Fisher and Caitlin Dewey May 23, 2013&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  China is a Communist country. In 1999, the publication [[Christian Century]] reported that &amp;quot;China has persecuted religious believers by means of harassment, prolonged detention, and incarceration in prison or 'reform-through-labor' camps and police closure of places of worship.&amp;quot; In 2003, owners of [[Bible]]s in China were sent to prison camps and 125 Chinese churches were closed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35818 &amp;quot;China sends Bible owners to labor camp&amp;quot;] (November 26, 2003). ''WorldNetDaily''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  China continues to practice religious oppression today.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.epm.org/resources/2003/Jun/12/chinese-police-proudly-record-their-torture-christ/ Chinese Police Proudly Record Their Torture of Christians], By Voice of the Martyrs|June 12, 2003&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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The efforts of China's atheist leaders in promoting atheism, however, is increasingly losing its effectiveness and the number of Christians in China is rapidly growing (see: [[Growth of Christianity in China]]).  China's state sponsored atheism and atheistic indoctrination has been a failure and a 2007 religious survey in China indicated that only 15% of Chinese identified themselves as atheists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Briggs, David (January 23, 2011).  [http://life.nationalpost.com/2011/01/23/huffington-post-chinas-state-sponsored-atheism-a-failure/ &amp;quot;Huffington Post: China’s state-sponsored atheism a failure&amp;quot; [excerpt&amp;amp;#93;].  National Post website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Researchers estimate that tens of thousands of [[Falun Gong]] prisoners in Communist China have been killed to supply a financially lucrative trade in human organs and cadavers, and that these human rights abuses may be ongoing concern.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.nyjournalofbooks.com/book-review/slaughter-mass-killings-organ-harvesting Review of: Ethan Gutmann, “''The Slaughter: Mass Killings, Organ Harvesting and China’s Secret Solution to Its Dissident Problem''”, (Prometheus Books, 2014).]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Religious persecution in North Korea ====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Martyred in the USSR Poster.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|The above photograph shows the Russian Nikolai Khmara, a new Baptist convert in the [[Soviet Union]], after his arrest by the [[KGB]]. He was tortured to death and his tongue cut out.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://martyredintheussr.com/ Martyred in the USSR]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.anabaptists.org/books/russians/trs-1.html The Russians' Secret by Peter Hoover with Serguei V. Petrov, Speaking Without a Tongue, Chapter 1 (Pages 1-3)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[North Korea]] is a repressive Communist state and is officially atheistic.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Lee, Sunny (May 12, 2007). [http://web.archive.org/web/20130521065544/http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Korea/IE12Dg01.html &amp;quot;God forbid, religion in North Korea?&amp;quot;]  Asia Times Online.  Archived at Internet Archive on May 21, 2013.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The North Korean government practices brutal repression and atrocities against North Korean Christians.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Clyne, Meghan (November 16, 2005). [http://www.nysun.com/article/23082?page_no=1 &amp;quot;Korean reds targeting Christians&amp;quot;]. The New York Sun. &lt;br /&gt;
*Siemon-Netto, Uwe (May 7, 2003). [http://northkoreanchristians.com/chinese-atrocities.html &amp;quot;North Korean and Chinese atrocities against Christians worsen&amp;quot;].  NewsMax.  NorthKoreanChristians.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   Open Doors, an organization based in the United States, has put North Korea at the very top of its list of countries where Christians face significant persecution - for 12 years in a row.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-10-22/repressive-atheist-north-korea-has-surprising-relationship-christian-missionaries Repressive, atheist North Korea has a surprising relationship with Christian missionaries]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheistic Communism and torture ===&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Atheistic communism and torture]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheistic Communist regimes and forced labor ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and forced labor]] and [[Atheism and slavery]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In atheistic Communist regimes forced labor has often played a significant role in their economies and this practice continues to this day (see: [[Atheism and forced labor]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Caplan, Bryan (2010).  [http://econfaculty.gmu.edu/bcaplan/museum/comfaq.htm &amp;quot;Museum of Communism FAQ version 1.3&amp;quot;]. George Mason University website/Department of Economics/Bryan Caplan/Museum of Communism.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.hrw.org/news/2012/06/13/north-korea-economic-system-built-forced-labor &amp;quot;North Korea: Economic system built on forced labor: New testimonies say even children must work or face detention camps&amp;quot;] (June 13, 2012).  Human Rights Watch website. &lt;br /&gt;
*Pattisson, Pete (November 7, 2014).  [http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2014/nov/07/qatar-north-korean-forced-labour &amp;quot;Qatar’s ambitious future driven on by North Korean ‘forced labour’&amp;quot;].  ''The Guardian'' website/World/Global Development.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/1999/china.50/red.giant/prisons/wu.essay &amp;quot;Labor camps reinforce China's totalitarian rule&amp;quot;] (1999).  Cnn.com&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/china/2013-01/07/c_132086402.htm &amp;quot;China to reform re-education through labor system&amp;quot;] (January 8, 2013).  Xinhua.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and politics ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Xi Jinping March 2017.jpg|thumbnail|right|180px|[[Xi Jinping]] is the President of the [[People's Republic of China]], current General Secretary of the [[Communist Party of China]], and Chairman of the Central Military Commission. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Communist Party of China requires that all their members be atheists and this is strictly enforced.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.thenewamerican.com/world-news/asia/item/19567-china-s-communist-party-reaffirms-marxism-maoism-atheism China’s Communist Party Reaffirms Marxism, Maoism, Atheism], New American, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Historically, atheists have favored the [[leftism|left]] side of the political aisle (see: [[Atheism and politics]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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According to the Pew Forum, in the [[United States]]: &amp;quot;About two-thirds of atheists (69%) identify as [[Democrats]] (or lean in that direction), and a majority (56%) call themselves political [[liberal]]s (compared with just one-in-ten who say they are [[conservative]]s).&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/11/05/7-facts-about-atheists/ 7 facts about atheists], Pew Forum&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In some regions where the [[secular left]] has considerable influence, they [[Decline of the secular left|are losing]] an increasing amount of their power. For example, in [[secular Europe]] right-wing, nationalist parties are growing and in China conservative [[Protestantism]] is growing rapidly (see: [[Growth of Christianity in China]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://sputniknews.com/europe/20160114/1033149776/europe-rise-of-right-wing-parties-eu-failure.html EU Failures Fuel Rise of Right-Wing Populist Parties in Europe]. Sputnik News, 2016&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Western atheism, schisms and political polarization]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and historical revisionism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and liberal Christianity alliances]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Secular right]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and history ==&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File: The Commissar Vanishes 2.jpg|thumbnail|right|220px|Nikolai Yezhov walking with [[Joseph Stalin]] in the top photo taken in the mid 1930s. Subsequent to his execution in 1940, Yezhov was edited out of the photo by Soviet Union censors.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;From the book  The Commissar Vanishes: The Falsification of Photographs and Art in Stalin's Russia by David King&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheists and historical illiteracy]] and [[History of Atheism|History of atheism]] and [[Atheist indoctrination]] and [[Atheism and historical revisionism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The history of atheism: [[History of Atheism|History of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheists and historical illiteracy ===&lt;br /&gt;
A common complaint concerning many atheists is their lack of depth when it comes to knowledge of [[history]] and [[historiography]] - particularly in areas such as [[historicity of Jesus|historicity of Jesus Christ]] and [[Atheism and Mass Murder|atheist mass murders in history]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Vox Day|Day, Vox]] (March 10, 2014).  [http://voxday.blogspot.com/2014/03/the-ignorance-of-cosmos.html &amp;quot;The ignorance of ''Cosmos''&amp;quot;].  Vox Populi blog. &lt;br /&gt;
*Koukl, Gregory (February 20, 2013). [http://www.str.org/site/News2?page=NewsArticle&amp;amp;id=5527 &amp;quot;The real murderers:  atheism or Christianity?&amp;quot;] Stand to Reason.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists commonly engage in [[historical revisionism]] in order to illegitimately distort the historical record (see: [[Atheism and historical revisionism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Religion/irreligion and war ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Irreligion/religion and war]] and [[Atheism and world peace]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Louise Ridley (assistant news editor at the ''Huffington Post UK''), Theodore Beale and others point out that academic studies and other research consistently challenge the link between religion and war.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Ridley, Louise [assistant news editor, ''Huffington Post'', UK] (November 18, 2014).  [http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/11/14/religions-war-cause-responsible-evidence_n_6156878.html &amp;quot;Does religion really cause war—and do atheists have something to answer for?&amp;quot;]  The Huffington Post, United Kingdom.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Day, Vox (August 13, 2012).  [http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/08/atheists-abandon-religion-causes-war.html &amp;quot;Atheists abandon 'religion causes war' argument&amp;quot;].  Vox Populi blog.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Schumacher, Robin (April 2012).  [http://carm.org/religion-cause-war &amp;quot;The myth that religion is the #1 cause of war&amp;quot;].  Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry website.  Edited by Matt Slick. See [[CARM]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Price, Tom (2014).  [http://www.bethinking.org/is-religion-harmful/religion-causes-wars &amp;quot;'Religion causes wars'&amp;quot;].  Bethinking.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Darwinism and war ===&lt;br /&gt;
There is historical evidence indicating that [[Darwinism]] was a causal factor for [[WWI]] and [[WWII]] (see: [[Irreligion/religion and war]] and [[World War I and Darwinism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and economics ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and economics]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and sloth|Atheism and economic productivity]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and economic prosperity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Analysis of atheism and common objections to atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Commonly Cited Arguments Against Atheism and For Theism ===&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Arguments for theism and against atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Anselm.jpg|thumbnail|right|150px|[[Anselm of Canterbury]]'s  version of the [[ontological argument]] appeared in his work ''Proslogium''.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The majority of philosophers of religion, or those who have extensively studied the issue of the existence of God, are [[theism|theists]] (72 percent).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.strangenotions.com/atheist-scientists/ Does it matter that many scientists are atheists?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In relation to the debate between theism and atheism, theists often criticize atheism as being contrary to persuasive argument and have a number of arguments against atheism (See: [[Arguments for theism and against atheism]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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Within Christendom, the discipline of [[Christian apologetics]] has been developed. Christian apologetics is the defense of the [[Christianity|Christian]] faith through logic/evidence based arguments. The word [[apologetics]] comes from the Greek word apologia  (from Greek ἀπολογία), which means &amp;quot;speaking in defense&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Teleological argument]]: The universe exhibits overwhelming evidence of deliberate, intelligent, purposeful design, which implies an [[intelligent design]]er. See also: [[Evolution|Arguments against evolution]] and [[Origin of life]] &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Evidential apologetics]] is an approach in Christian apologetics which emphasizes the use of evidence to demonstrate that God exists and that there is compelling evidence to support Christianity and the Bible.  In addition, there are various arguments that atheists or other unbelievers weigh evidence improperly (see: [[Atheism and evidence]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Moral Argument|Moral argument]]. [[Objective morality]] exists. Atheism lacks objective moral standards. Not possessing a coherent basis for [[morality]], atheists are fundamentally [[Moral relativism|incapable]] of having a coherent system of morality (See also: [[Atheism and morality]] and [[Atheist population and immorality]] and [[Atheism and hedonism]] and [[Atheist hypocrisy]]) .&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Copan, Paul (2008). [http://www.paulcopan.com/articles/pdf/God-naturalism-morality.pdf &amp;quot;God, naturalism, and the foundations of morality&amp;quot;].  ''The Future of Atheism'', ed. Robert Stewart (Minneapolis: Fortress Press), pp. 141-161.  PaulCopan.com &lt;br /&gt;
*Williams, Peter S. (2011). [http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god &amp;quot;Can moral objectivism do without God?&amp;quot;].  Bethinking.org &lt;br /&gt;
*Meister, Chad (2010).  [http://www.equip.org/articles/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality/ &amp;quot;Atheists and the quest for objective morality&amp;quot;].  ''Christian Research Journal'', vol. 33, no. 2.  Christian Research Institute website &lt;br /&gt;
*Slick, Matt (2009).  [http://carm.org/failure-of-atheism-to-account-for-morality &amp;quot;The failure of atheism to account for morality&amp;quot;].  Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Atheism leads to moral and cultural decline (see: [[Atheism and culture]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Cosmological argument]]: Every event in our [[universe]] necessarily has a cause. However, it is impossible that there should be an unending chain of causes going back. Therefore, there necessarily must be a cause ''distinct'' from the universe as we know it which is capable of causing all things and is itself uncaused. Atheism denies that that [[First Cause|first cause]] is God. Christians point out that the question &amp;quot;Who created God&amp;quot; is an illogical question.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/who-created-god Who created God] by Don Batten&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and the origin of the universe]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Autumn.jpg|200px|right|thumbnail|The [[argument from beauty]] is a commonly used argument for the existence of God. ]]&lt;br /&gt;
* Historical arguments for the existence of God (subset of evidential apologetics). For example, arguments stemming from historical accounts such as Christian historical apologetics, [[Christian Legal Apologetics|Christian legal apologetics]] and archaeological evidence such as [[Bible Archaeology|Bible archaeology]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Pascal's wager]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Biblical statements concerning atheism ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Bible verses relating to atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The writers of the [[Bible]] considered the existence of God to be self-evident and [[Moses]] simply wrote: &amp;quot;In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.&amp;quot; ([[Genesis]] 1:1).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Harr, Ken and Lisle, Dr. Jason (August 9, 2007). [http://www.answersingenesis.org/is-god-real/is-there-really-god/ &amp;quot;Chapter 1: Is there really a God?&amp;quot;] ''The New Answers Book''.  Answers in Genesis.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;The fool has said in his heart, 'There is no God.' They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.&amp;quot; — [[Psalms]] 14:1 ([[King James Bible|KJV]])&lt;br /&gt;
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==Atheism and debate==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism debates]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Bahnsen.jpg‎|thumb|right|150px|Dr. [[Greg Bahnsen]] became known as &amp;quot;the man atheists fear most&amp;quot; due to [[Michael Martin]]'s cancellation of their scheduled debate.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Bahsen at the Stein debate&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.frame-poythress.org/frame_articles/Bahnsen.htm Bahsen at the Stein debate] by John Frame&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://simpleapologetics.com/thegreatdebate.html The Great Debate: Greg Bahnsen vs Gordon Stein]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
As far as [[atheism debates]], the majority of the public debates are [[Atheism vs. Christianity debates]] (although there have been a few [[Atheism vs. Islam debates]]).  &lt;br /&gt;
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Beginning in the latter part of the 20th century, there were a number of notable instances of prominent atheists being reluctant to debate (see: [[Atheism and debate#Notable cases of prominent atheists being reluctant to debate|Notable cases of prominent atheists being reluctant to debate]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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On May 14, 2011, the [[Great Britain|British]] newspaper ''[[The Daily Telegraph]]'' published a news story entitled ''Richard Dawkins accused of cowardice for refusing to debate existence of [[God]]''.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;cowardice&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ross, Tim (May 14, 2011).  [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/8511931/Richard-Dawkins-accused-of-cowardice-for-refusing-to-debate-existence-of-God.html &amp;quot;Richard Dawkins accused of cowardice for refusing to debate existence of God&amp;quot;]. The Daily Telegraph website.  Retrieved July 25, 2014.  See ''[[Daily Telegraph]]''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In ''[[The Daily Telegraph]]'' article Dr. [[Daniel Came]], a member of the Faculty of [[Philosophy]] at [[Oxford University]] was quoted as writing to fellow atheist Richard Dawkins concerning his refusal to debate Dr. [[William Lane Craig]],  &amp;quot;The absence of a debate with the foremost [[Christian apologetics|apologist]] for [[Christianity|Christian]] [[theism]] is a glaring omission on your [[Curriculum vitae|CV]] and is of course apt to be interpreted as cowardice on your part.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;cowardice&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Greg Bahnsen]] became known as the &amp;quot;man atheists fear most&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://web.archive.org/web/20080102084144/http://mywebpages.comcast.net/webpages54/ap/biobahn.html &amp;quot;A brief biography of Greg Bahnsen&amp;quot;] (2003).  Applied Presuppositionalism website.  Retrieved from January 2, 2008 archive at Internet Archive on May 14, 2015.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
This is because [[Harvard]]-educated [[Michael Martin]] was scheduled to debate Bahnsen but pulled out of the debate at the &amp;quot;eleventh hour&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
A [[Press Release Regarding Michael Martin Pulling Out of Martin-Bahnsen Debate|press release at the time]] said that Dr. Martin offered ruses on why he pulled out and didn't want the scheduled debate recorded but the real reason was that &amp;quot;...Michael Martin is afraid that he will be publicly humiliated just as his friend and fellow atheist, Dr. [[Gordon Stein]], was...&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 1990, Michael Martin indicated there was a general [[Atheism and apathy|absence of an atheistic response]] to contemporary work in the [[philosophy]] of religion and in jest he indicated that it was his &amp;quot;cross to bear&amp;quot; to respond to [[theism|theistic]] arguments.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Open Questions: Diverse Thinkers Discuss God, Religion, and Faith'' by Luís F. Rodrigues, page 201&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheist apologetics]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A majority of the most prominent and vocal defenders of the naturalistic [[evolution]]ary position since [[World War II]] have been atheists.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Batten, Don (December 1997).  [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/737/ &amp;quot;A ''Who’s Who'' of evolutionists&amp;quot;]. ''Creation'', vol 20, no. 1, p. 32.  Retrieved from Creation.com [Creation Ministries International] on May 15, 2015.  Don Batten&lt;br /&gt;
*Sarfati, Jonathan, Ph. D. (1999).  [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3830 &amp;quot;Chapter 1: Facts and bias&amp;quot;].  ''Refuting Evolution''.  Retrieved from Creation.com [Creation Ministries International] on May 15, 2015.  See [[Jonathan Sarfati]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; After doing poorly in a series of debates in the 1970s, 1980s, and 1990s,  evolutionists are generally reluctant to debate (see: [[Creation vs. evolution debates]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and morality/ethics ==&lt;br /&gt;
See also: [[Atheism and morality]] and [[Atheist population and immorality]] and  [[Atheist hypocrisy]] and [[Religion and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Objective morality incompatible with atheism ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Copan at Tyndale.jpeg|thumbnail|right|180px|Dr. [[Paul Copan]] wrote: &amp;quot;...the existence of a personal God is crucial for a coherent understanding of [[objective morality]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god Can Moral Objectivism Do Without God?] by Peter S. Williams, Bethinking.org&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Under an atheist worldview, there is no logical basis for [[objective morality]] or ultimate meaning and purpose.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/atheism-no-objective-morality Atheism—no objective morality?], [[Creation Ministries International]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.bethinking.org/morality/can-moral-objectivism-do-without-god Can Moral Objectivism Do Without God?] by Peter S. Williams at Bethinking.org&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.equip.org/article/atheists-and-the-quest-for-objective-morality-2/ Atheists and the Quest for Objective Morality] by Chad Meister at Christian Research Institute&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.faithdefenders.com/articles/atheism/atheism_absolutes_at.html Atheism and absolutes]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and morality]] and [[Atheism and moral relativism]] and [[Atheism and meaninglessness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and moral relativism ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and moral relativism]] and [[Atheism and morality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Phil Fernandes states the following regarding atheism and [[moral relativism]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|[[Friedrich Nietzsche|Nietzsche]] preached that a group of &amp;quot;supermen&amp;quot; must arise with the courage to create their own values through their &amp;quot;will to power.&amp;quot; Nietzsche rejected the &amp;quot;soft&amp;quot; values of Christianity (brotherly love, turning the other cheek, charity, compassion, etc.); he felt they hindered man's creativity and potential....&lt;br /&gt;
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Many other atheists agree with Nietzsche concerning moral relativism. British philosopher [[Bertrand Russell]] (1872-1970) once wrote, &amp;quot;Outside human desires there is no moral standard.&amp;quot; [[A. J. Ayer]] believed that moral commands did not result from any objective standard above man. Instead, Ayer stated that moral commands merely express one's subjective feelings. When one says that murder is wrong, one is merely saying that he or she feels that murder is wrong. [[Jean-Paul Sartre]], a French [[existentialism|existentialist]], believed that there is no objective meaning to life. Therefore, according to Sartre, man must create his own values.&lt;br /&gt;
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There are many different ways that moral relativists attempt to determine what action should be taken. [[Hedonism]] is probably the most extreme. It declares that whatever brings the most pleasure is right. In other words, if it feels good, do it. If this position is true, then there is no basis from which to judge the actions of [[Adolph Hitler]] as being evil.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Dr. Phil Fernandez, Web article: ''Refuting Moral relativism'', Institute for Bible Defense (Web article is no longer online. Pages 120-121 of the book ''God, Government, and the Road to Tyranny: A Christian View of Government and Morality'' By Phil Fernandes, Eric Purcell and Rorri Wiesinger relates the same thoughts of his former web article.[https://books.google.com/books?id=u6XBuAQAiYUC&amp;amp;pg=PA120&amp;amp;lpg=PA120&amp;amp;dq=Nietzsche+preached+that+a+group+of+%22supermen%22+must+arise+with+the+courage+to+create+their+own+values+through+their+%22will+to+power.%22+Nietzsche+rejected+the+%22soft%22+values+of+Christianity+(brotherly+love,+turning+the+other+cheek,+charity,+compassion,+etc.);+he+felt+they+hindered+man%27s+creativity+and+potential.&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=kwDnaTOHqd&amp;amp;sig=0ywArBSb87JFleWRXZRv6DG3ZVo&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ved=0ahUKEwjty8qqyIzWAhXHg1QKHe8UAVYQ6AEIKDAA#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=Nietzsche%20preached%20that%20a%20group%20of%20%22supermen%22%20must%20arise%20with%20the%20courage%20to%20create%20their%20own%20values%20through%20their%20%22will%20to%20power.%22%20Nietzsche%20rejected%20the%20%22soft%22%20values%20of%20Christianity%20(brotherly%20love%2C%20turning%20the%20other%20cheek%2C%20charity%2C%20compassion%2C%20etc.)%3B%20he%20felt%20they%20hindered%20man's%20creativity%20and%20potential.&amp;amp;f=false])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and various types of immorality ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:115523-004-FA619CA3.jpg|thumb|right|221px| The perverse and cruel atheist [[Marquis de Sade]] in prison, 18th century line engraving. See: [[Atheism and sadism]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and sexual immorality articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheist population and immorality|Atheism and various types of immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[List of atheist shooters and serial killers]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and psychopathy ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and psychopathy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A [[psychopath]] is someone with an anti-social [[personality disorder]] characterized by [[violent]], [[perverted]] or immoral behavior often leading to [[criminal]]ity. Psychopaths have little or no concern for other people. Some psychopaths equate [[love]] with sexual arousal.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book |title=Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of the Psychopaths Among Us |author=Robert D. Hare |publisher=Guilford Press |place=New York and London |year=2011 |pages=52 |isbn=978-16062-35782 |url=https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1606235788}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 2016 study relating to atheism and psychopathy published in ''Plus One'' indicates:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|Similarly, a survey of 312 college students examining the relationship between Religious/Spiritual Well-Being (RSWB) and ‘dark triad’ personality traits found that “RSWB was confirmed to be negatively correlated with these negative aspects of personality, in particular with subclinical psychopathy.”&lt;br /&gt;
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...moral concern is associated with a spiritual worldview.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0149989 Why Do You Believe in God? Relationships between Religious Belief, Analytic Thinking, Mentalizing and Moral Concern] by Anthony Ian Jack , Jared Parker Friedman, Richard Eleftherios Boyatzis, Scott Nolan Taylor, ''Plus One'', March 23, 2016&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the 2014 journal article ''Correlates of psychopathic personality traits in everyday life: results from a large community survey'' published in the journal ''Frontiers of Psychology''  lack of belief in [[God]] is positively associated with [[psychopath]]y.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4106400/ Correlates of psychopathic personality traits in everyday life: results from a large community survey] by Scott O. Lilienfeld, Robert D. Latzman, Ashley L. Watts, Sarah F. Smith, and Kevin Dutton, ''Frontiers of Psychology'', 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Barna Group studies: Atheism and morality ===&lt;br /&gt;
'''Barna Group study on behavior of atheists vs. evangelical Christians:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|A random sample of 1003 adults were surveyed in May, 2008 by The Barna Group for their participation in a number of negative behaviors within the previous week. The results showed that there were vast differences in the behaviors of evangelicals compared to agnostics/atheists.&lt;br /&gt;
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These results show that atheists/agnostics participate in morally questionable behaviors to a much greater degree than [[evangelicalism|evangelical Christians]] - an average of nearly five times the frequency!&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/atheists_more_immoral.html Atheism Doesn't Lead to Immoral Behavior - Or Does It?] by Richard Deem&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Barna Group study related to atheist beliefs about behaviors:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Barna Group]] found that atheists and [[agnostics]] in America were more likely, than [[theist]]s in America, to look upon the following behaviors as morally acceptable:  illegal drug use; excessive drinking; sexual relationships outside of marriage; [[abortion]]; cohabitating with someone of opposite sex outside of marriage; obscene language; gambling; [[pornography]] and obscene sexual behavior; and engaging in [[homosexuality]]/bisexuality.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.barna.org/component/content/article/5-barna-update/45-barna-update-sp-657/58-practical-outcomes-replace-biblical-principles-as-the-moral-standard#.VumtJuYvK1s Practical outcomes replace biblical principles as the moral standard], Barna Group&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Given the [[Homosexuality and health|many diseases]] associated with homosexuality, the [[Bible|biblical]] prohibition against homosexuality is quite arguably one of the many example where the Bible exhibited knowledge [http://creationwiki.org/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge that was ahead of its time].  See also: [[Atheism and sexual immorality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Study: U.S. public perception of atheist morality ===&lt;br /&gt;
In 2014, a University of Kentucky study was published by Will M. Gervais, which was entitled &amp;quot;Everything is permitted? People intuitively judge immorality as representative of atheists&amp;quot;, and the study indicated that &amp;quot;even atheist participants viewed immorality as significantly more representative of atheists than of other people.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Gervais, Will M. (April 9, 2014).  &amp;quot;Everything is permitted?  People intuitively judge immorality as representative of atheists&amp;quot;. ''PLOS ONE'', {{doi|10.1371/journal.pone.0092302}}.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and uncharitableness  ===&lt;br /&gt;
:''See also: [[Atheism and charity]]'' and [[Atheist nonprofit scandals]] and [[Atheism, uncharitableness and depression]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Beggar.jpg|thumb|right|200px|A child in [[Thailand]] where the nontheistic form of [[Buddhism]] called the Theravada school of Buddhism is prevalent. In 2010, the Pew Research Forum indicated that 93.2% of the people of Thailand were Buddhists.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;pew2010&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.pewforum.org/files/2012/12/globalReligion-tables.pdf Pew Research Center - Global Religious Landscape 2010 - religious composition by country].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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A comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Burke Campbell&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Burke, Daniel, Religion News Service (May 13, 2009). [http://web.archive.org/web/20130310113024/http://www.pewforum.org/Religion-News/Religious-people-make-better-citizens-study-says.aspx &amp;quot;Religious people make better citizens, study says&amp;quot;]. Pew Research Forum. Archived on March 10, 2013 by Internet Archive. &lt;br /&gt;
*Campbell, David and Putnam, Robert (November 14, 2010).  [http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/forum/2010-11-15-column15_ST_N.htm &amp;quot;Religious people are 'better neighbors'&amp;quot;]. USA Today website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and charity|Atheism and uncharitableness]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Concerning the issue of [[Atheism and charity|atheism and uncharitableness]], the evidence indicates that [[per capita]] charitable giving by atheists and agnostics in America is significantly less than by theists, according to a study by the [[Barna Group]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The typical no-faith American donated just $200 in 2006, which is more than seven times less than the amount contributed by the prototypical active-faith adult ($1500). Even when church-based giving is subtracted from the equation, active-faith adults donated twice as many dollars last year as did atheists and agnostics. In fact, while just 7% of active-faith adults failed to contribute any personal funds in 2006, that compares with 22% among the no-faith adults.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.barna.org/barna-update/faith-spirituality/102-atheists-and-agnostics-take-aim-at-christians#.VwcO5jEn_7Y  &amp;quot;Atheists and agnostics take aim at Christians&amp;quot;] (June 11, 2007).  Barna Update.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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A comprehensive study by [[Harvard University]] professor Robert Putnam found that religious people are more charitable than their irreligious counterparts.&amp;lt;ref name =&amp;quot;Burke Campbell&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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==== Church-state issues emphasis. Charity low priority ====&lt;br /&gt;
See also: [[Atheism and charity|Atheism and uncharitableness]] and [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Atheism and love]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In June 2014, the African-American atheist woman [[Sikivu Hutchinson]] wrote in the ''Washington Post'' that atheist organizations generally focus on church-state separation and creationism issues and not the concerns the less affluent African American population faces.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hutchinson&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hutchinson, Sikivu (June 16, 2014).  [http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/16/blacks-are-even-discriminated-against-by-atheists/ &amp;quot;Atheism has a big race problem that no one’s talking about&amp;quot;].  Washington Post website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Hutchinson also mentioned that church organizations do focus on helping poor African Americans.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Hutchinson&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Atheist nonprofit scandals ====&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist nonprofit scandals]] and  ''[[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science#Embezzlement allegation|Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science - Embezzlement allegation]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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Two atheist nonprofit scandals which recently received some publicity were the organizations [[Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science]] and the We Are Atheism organization.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2011/07/24/richard-dawkins-drops-his-lawsuit-against-former-employee/ Richard Dawkins Drops His Lawsuit Against Former Employee]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2015/09/15/an-update-on-we-are-atheism/ An Update on We Are Atheism] by Hemant Mehta, September 15, 2015]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, David Gorski at Scienceblogs indicated that many atheist/skeptic organizations are poorly run from a financial standpoint.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/10/24/richard-dawkins-sues-josh-timonen/ Richard Dawkins sues Josh Timonen], Posted by David Gorski on October 24, 2010&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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For more information, please see: [[Atheist nonprofit scandals]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Irreligion and domestic violence ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Irreligion and domestic violence]] and [[Atheism and women]] and [[Atheism and rape]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Cycle.gif|thumbnail|205px|right|Research suggests that irreligiousity is a causal factor for domestic violence.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vaw&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Ellison, C. G., Trinitapoli, J. A., et al. (November 2007). [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17951587 &amp;quot;Race/ethnicity, religious involvement, and domestic violence&amp;quot;] [abstract with link to full article].  ''Violence Against Women'', doi: 10.1177/1077801207308259, vol. 13, no. 11, pp. 1094-1112.  Abstract from PubMed.gov&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
The abstract for the 2007 article in the journal ''Violence Against Women'' entitled ''Race/Ethnicity, Religious Involvement, and Domestic Violence'' indicated:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The authors explored the relationship between religious involvement and intimate partner violence by analyzing data from the first wave of the National Survey of Families and Households. They found that: (a) religious involvement is correlated with reduced levels of domestic violence; (b) levels of domestic violence vary by race/ethnicity; (c) the effects of religious involvement on domestic violence vary by race/ethnicity; and (d) religious involvement, specifically church attendance, protects against domestic violence, and this protective effect is stronger for African American men and women and for Hispanic men, groups that, for a variety of reasons, experience elevated risk for this type of violence.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;vaw&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;}}  &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and pornography ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Larry Flynt Wheelchair.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|The [[pornography|pornographer]] [[Larry Flynt]] is an atheist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Flynt writes, &amp;quot;I have left my religious conversion behind and settled into a comfortable state of atheism&amp;quot;: see the epilogue of Flynt, Larry and Ross, Kenneth (June 1, 2008).  ''An Unseemly Man: My Life as Pornographer, Pundit, and Social Outcast''.   &lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I am not saying he don't believe in God. I am just saying I don't believe in God. That puts me at odds with him.&amp;quot; [http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9701/11/falwell.v.flynt/lkl.00.html &amp;quot;Larry Flynt and Jerry Falwell&amp;quot; [transcript&amp;amp;#93;] (January 10, 1996).  Larry King Live.  Transcript from CNN.com on October 3, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and pornography]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the causes of atheism is a [[hedonism|hedonistic]] lifestyle. See: [[Atheism and hedonism]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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*Gottesdiener, Laura (February 23, 2010).  [http://www.salon.com/2013/02/23/10_celebs_you_didnt_know_were_atheists_partner/ &amp;quot;10 celebs you didn't know were atheists&amp;quot;].  Salon.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Flynt writes, &amp;quot;I have left my religious conversion behind and settled into a comfortable state of atheism&amp;quot;: see the epilogue of Flynt, Larry and Ross, Kenneth (June 1, 2008).  ''An Unseemly Man: My Life as Pornographer, Pundit, and Social Outcast''.&lt;br /&gt;
*&amp;quot;I am not saying he don't believe in God. I am just saying I don't believe in God. That puts me at odds with him.&amp;quot; [http://www.cnn.com/SHOWBIZ/9701/11/falwell.v.flynt/lkl.00.html &amp;quot;Larry Flynt and Jerry Falwell&amp;quot; [transcript&amp;amp;#93;] (January 10, 1996).  Larry King Live.  Transcript from CNN.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2003, ''Arena magazine'' magazine listed Flynt as #1 on the &amp;quot;50 Powerful People in Porn&amp;quot; list.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.onenewspage.us/people/ms9j0/Larry-Flynt.htm &amp;quot;Larry Flynt&amp;quot;].  One News Page.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Flynt is paralyzed from the waist down due to injuries sustained from a 1978 assassination attempt by the serial killer Joseph Paul Franklin.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Flynt, Larry and Ross, Kenneth (June 1, 2008).  ''An Unseemly Man: My Life as Pornographer, Pundit, and Social Outcast'', pp. 170–171.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.onenewspage.us/people/ms9j0/Larry-Flynt.htm &amp;quot;Larry Flynt&amp;quot;].  One News Page.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Atheism and child pornography ====&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and child pornography]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2005 [[Denmark]] was ranked the third most atheistic country in the world and the website adherents.com reported that in 2005 43 - 80% of Danes are agnostics/atheists/non-believers in God.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.adherents.com/largecom/com_atheist.html Top 50 Countries With Highest Proportion of Atheists / Agnostics(Zuckerman, 2005)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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The 2003 book entitled ''Overcoming Violence Against Women and Girls: The International Campaign to Eradicate a Worldwide Problem '' written by authors Rahel Nardos; Mary K. Radpour; William S. Hatcher and Michael L. Penn, declared: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The largest source of commercial child pornography is Denmark. Denmark became the world's leading producer of child pornography when, in 1969, it removed all restrictions on the production and sale of any type of pornographic material. &amp;quot;The result,&amp;quot; notes Tim Tate, &amp;quot;was a short-lived explosion in adult pornography, and the birth of commercial child pornography. ....by 1979 when Denmark finally banned the production and sale of child pornography it had already become such a financial success on the international market that it has proven to be nearly impossible to bring its spread under control.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Nardos, Rahel, et. al. (2003).  ''Overcoming Violence Against Women and Girls: The International Campaign to Eradicate a Worldwide Problem'', p. 59.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Suzanne Ost, in her 2009 book ''Child Pornography and Sexual Grooming: Legal and Societal Responses'' published by Cambridge University Press, wrote about the child pornography created by Denmark/Holland during this period: &amp;quot;Taylor and Quayle note that the material produced during this period still constitutes the largest part of child pornography that is currently available, having been transferred into digital format and uploaded onto the internet.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Child Pornography and Sexual Grooming: Legal and Societal Responses'' by Suzanne Ost, Cambridge University Press, page 29, 2009&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism, pedophilia and NAMBLA ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Harry Hay.jpg|thumb|150px|Many consider atheist [[Harry Hay]] to be the founder of the American homosexual movement.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''see also:'' [[Atheism, pederasty and NAMBLA]] and [[Teenage homosexuality]] &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[North American Man-Boy Love Association]] (NAMBLA) was founded in December 1978 and is an activist homosexuality and [[pedophilia]]/pederasty coalition group.&lt;br /&gt;
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Some of the well known atheist advocates of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) are:&lt;br /&gt;
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1. The atheist and homosexual [[David Thorstad]] was a founding member of the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Abbott, Matt C. (August 22, 2010).  [http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/abbott/100822 &amp;quot;The mind of a pederast&amp;quot;]. RenewAmerica.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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2. '''[[Harry Hay]]''' (1912 - 2002) was an [[liberal]] advocate of [[statutory rape]] and the widely acknowledged founder and progenitor of the  activist [[homosexual agenda]] in the [[United States]]. Hay joined the [[Communist Party of the United States]] (CPUSA) in 1934.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bronski, Michael (October 31, 2002).  [http://bostonphoenix.com/boston/news_features/other_stories/documents/02511115.htm &amp;quot;The real Harry Hay&amp;quot;].  The Phoenix.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Harry Hay was an atheist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Kincaid, Cliff, Accuracy in Media (January 7, 2010). [http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2010/ss_politics0010_01_07.asp &amp;quot;Twisted: administration's 'safe schools czar' and the North American Man-Boy Love Association&amp;quot;].  WorldTribune.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; He was a vociferous advocate of man/boy love.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Lord, Jeffrey (October 5, 2006).  [http://spectator.org/articles/46366/when-nancy-met-harry &amp;quot;Special report:  when Nancy met Harry&amp;quot;].  The American Spectator website. &lt;br /&gt;
*Kincaid, Cliff, Accuracy in Media (January 7, 2010). [http://www.worldtribune.com/worldtribune/WTARC/2010/ss_politics0010_01_07.asp &amp;quot;Twisted: administration's 'safe schools czar' and the North American Man-Boy Love Association&amp;quot;].  WorldTribune.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 1986, Hay marched in a [[homosexual|gay]] parade wearing a shirt emblazoned with the words &amp;quot;[[NAMBLA]] walks with me.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Baldwin, Hon. Steve (2002). [http://www.mega.nu/ampp/baldwin_pedophilia_homosexuality.pdf &amp;quot;Child molestation and the homosexual movement&amp;quot;]. ''Regent University Law Review'', vol. 14, pp. 267-282. The Architecture of Modern Political Power&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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3. The writer [[Samuel R. Delany]] is an atheist and a homosexual.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Delany, Samuel R. (2006).  ''About Writing:  Seven Essays, Four Letters, and Five Interviews'' (Middletown: Wesleyan), p. 36.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.enotes.com/topics/samuel-r-delany/critical-essays/delany-samuel-r-vol-141#critical-essays-delany-samuel-r-vol-141-introduction &amp;quot;Introduction&amp;quot;] (2001).  ''Contemporary Literary Criticism'', ed. Hunter, Jeffrey W., vol. 141 (Gale Cengage).  eNotes.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Delaney said he was a supporter of NAMBLA.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Freedman, Carl (2009).  ''Conversations with Samuel R. Delany'' (Jackson: Univ. Press of Mississippi), p. 143.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Richard Dawkins on child molestation and so called &amp;quot;gentle pedophiles&amp;quot;]] and [[John Maynard Keynes and pederasty]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and slavery/forced labor ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and slavery]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and forced labor]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Immorality of prominent atheists ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism, polyamory and other immoral relationships]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:JAMES RANDI.jpg|thumbnail|170px|left|[[James Randi]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[James Randi]] is a leader within the atheist community. Brian Thompson, former James Randi Educational Foundation (JREF) Outreach Coordinator, wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|But I no longer identify with this community of benevolent know-it-alls, because not all of them are the best folks in the world. In fact, a good percentage of the top ten worst humans I’ve ever met are prominent members of the skeptics’ club. They’re dishonest, mean-spirited, narcissistic, [[misogyny|misogynistic]]. Pick a personality flaw, and I can probably point you to someone who epitomizes it. And that person has probably had a speaking slot at a major skeptical conference.&lt;br /&gt;
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I grew particularly disgusted with the boys’ club attitude I saw among skeptical leaders and luminaries. The kind of attitude that’s dismissive of women, sexually predatory, and downright gross. When I first started going to skeptical conferences as a fresh-faced know-it-all, I started hearing things about people I once admired. Then I started seeing things myself. Then I got a job with the JREF, and the pattern continued.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Myers, P. Z. (March 31, 2014).  [http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2014/03/31/when-will-this-situation-improve/ &amp;quot;When will this situation improve?&amp;quot;] Pharyngula.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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See also:&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism, polyamory and other immoral relationships]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Carrier, adultery, divorce and polyamory]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist conferences#Atheist events and inappropriate sexually related activities|Atheist conferences and inappropriate sexual activity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and rape ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and rape]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Mass rape during the occupation of Germany|Mass rape of German women by the Soviet army]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and abortion ===&lt;br /&gt;
The ''Journal of Medical Ethics'' wrote this about the atheist and [[sadism|sadist]] [[Marquis de Sade]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|In 1795 the Marquis de Sade published his ''La Philosophie dans le boudoir'', in which he proposed the use of induced abortion for social reasons and as a means of [[population control]]. It is from this time that medical and social acceptance of abortion can be dated, although previously the subject had not been discussed in public in modern times. It is suggested that it was largely due to de Sade's writing that induced abortion received the impetus which resulted in its subsequent spread in western society.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Farr, A. D. (1980).  [http://jme.bmj.com/content/6/1/7.abstract &amp;quot;The Marquis de Sade and induced abortion&amp;quot;].  ''Journal of Medical Ethics'', 6, pp. 7-10.  Journal of Medical Ethics website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} &lt;br /&gt;
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[[Population control]] is based on [[pseudoscience]] and ill founded [[economics|economic]] assumptions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Egnor, Michael (November 30, 2010).  [http://www.evolutionnews.org/2010/11/pz_myers_on_abortion040971.html &amp;quot;P. Z. Myers on abortion&amp;quot;].  Evolution News and Views.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; ''[[CBS News]]'' reported: &amp;quot;According to a mail-in survey of nearly 4,000 British doctors, those who were atheist or agnostic were almost twice as willing to take actions designed to hasten the end of life.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Katz, Neil (August 26, 2010).  [http://www.cbsnews.com/news/study-atheist-doctors-twice-as-likely-to-pull-plug/ &amp;quot;Study: atheist doctors twice as likely to pull plug&amp;quot;]. CBSNews.com.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and profanity ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and profanity]] and [[Atheism and culture]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Studies indicate that atheists engage in more [[profanity]] than Christians/theists and are more likely to believe that obscene language is acceptable to engage in.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.barna.org/component/content/article/5-barna-update/45-barna-update-sp-657/58-practical-outcomes-replace-biblical-principles-as-the-moral-standard#.VwcQ8jEn_7Y  &amp;quot;Practical outcomes replace biblical principles as the moral standard&amp;quot;] (September 10, 2001).  Barna Update. &lt;br /&gt;
*Jay, Timothy and Janschewitz, Kristin (May/June 2012).  [http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/publications/observer/2012/may-june-12/the-science-of-swearing.html &amp;quot;The Science of Swearing&amp;quot;].  ''Observer'', vol. 25, no. 5. The Association for Psychological Science website.&lt;br /&gt;
*Ritter, Ryan S., Preston, J. L. et al. (June 18, 2013). [http://spp.sagepub.com/content/early/2013/06/18/1948550613492345.full.pdf+html &amp;quot;Happy tweets: Christians are happier, more socially connected, and less analytical than atheists on Twitter&amp;quot; [abstract&amp;amp;#93;].  ''Social Psychological and Personality Science'', 1948550613492345.  Abstract: Sage Journals Subscription required for full article.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
Use of profanity by individuals is negatively correlated with conscientiousness and agreeableness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Jay, Timothy and Janschewitz, Kristin (May/June 2012).  [http://www.psychologicalscience.org/index.php/publications/observer/2012/may-june-12/the-science-of-swearing.html &amp;quot;The Science of Swearing&amp;quot;].  ''Observer'', vol. 25, no. 5. The Association for Psychological Science website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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For more information, please see: [[Atheism and profanity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Irreligion and crime/prison population ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Religion and crime reduction]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Irreligious prison population]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and infanticide ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Infanticide]] is the practice of killing very young children. An infant has been medically defined as a child too young to speak.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;MedicineNet.com http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=3966.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Below is an article on atheism and infanticide: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and infanticide]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and bestiality ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and bestiality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and other moral issues ===&lt;br /&gt;
For more information please see:  [[Atheism and morality]] and [[Atheism and hedonism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and hypocrisy ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheist hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In order to attempt to justify their atheism, atheists often engage in [[Hypocrisy|hypocritical]] argumentation.  In addition, atheists often engage in hypocritical behavior. Please see: [[Atheist hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and social justice ===&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Atheism and social justice]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Earlier definitions of atheism ===&lt;br /&gt;
Dictionaries point out that previous/archaic meanings of the word atheism are: ungodliness. wickedness, immorality&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.positiveatheism.org/mail/eml9779.htm Dictionary Says 'Atheism' Means 'Immorality'!?]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism Definition of atheism - Merriam-Webster dictionary]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and philosophy topics ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Atheism and meaning ===&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Why atheism is irrational ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and irrationality]] and [[Irreligion and superstition]] &lt;br /&gt;
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A common and legitimate criticism of the atheist worldview is that [[Atheism and irrationality|atheism is irrational]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;athdef&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; In short, atheism is a fundamentally incoherent worldview with a number of inconsistencies.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;inconsist&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;  For example, the atheistic worldview cannot account for the laws of [[logic]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Lisle, Dr. Jason (October 10, 2007).  [http://answersingenesis.org/world-religions/atheism/atheism-an-irrational-worldview/ &amp;quot;Atheism: An irrational worldview&amp;quot;]. AnswersinGenesis.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Slick, Matt (2010).  [http://carm.org/christian-worldview-atheist-worldview-and-logic &amp;quot;The Christian worldview, the atheist worldview, and logic&amp;quot;].  Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry. &lt;br /&gt;
*Petersen, Jason (2013).  [http://answersforhope.org/portfolio_item/can-atheism-coherently-explain-the-laws-of-logic/ &amp;quot;Can atheism coherently explain the laws of logic?&amp;quot;] Answers for Hope.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Audio of a formal 1985 debate between Christian Greg Bahnsen and skeptic Gordon Stein at the University of California, Irvine on the question &amp;quot;Does God exist?&amp;quot;  See Dr. [[Greg Bahnsen]]&lt;br /&gt;
**[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1hSx2evTGM &amp;quot;Greg Bahnsen vs. Gordon Stein:  The Great Debate (FULL)&amp;quot;] (May 19, 2011).  YouTube video, 2:10:44, posted by Argin Gerigorian.  &lt;br /&gt;
**Andy (December 5, 2006).  [http://veritasdomain.wordpress.com/2006/12/05/greg-bahnsen-vs-gordon-stein-the-great-debate/ &amp;quot;Greg Bahnsen vs Gordon Stein mp3&amp;quot;].  The Domain for Truth.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and critical thinking]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The atheist worldview cannot explain the existence of [[consciousness]] either and the [[theism|theistic]] worldview can offer a reasonable explanation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Piippo, John (March 20, 2012).  [http://www.johnpiippo.com/2012/03/argument-from-consciousness-for.html &amp;quot;The argument from consciousness for the existence of God&amp;quot;].  John Piippo. &lt;br /&gt;
*Piippo, John (April 14, 2014).  [http://www.johnpiippo.com/2014/04/one-of-atheisms-irresolvable-problems.html &amp;quot;Consciousness:  One of atheism's irresolvable problems&amp;quot;].  John Piippo.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
[[File:113320508 2b86fdb94a.jpg|thumb|201px|right|A common and legitimate criticism of the atheist worldview is that [[Atheism and irrationality|atheism is irrational]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;athdef&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Slick, Matt (2010).  [http://carm.org/cut-atheism &amp;quot;Atheism&amp;quot;].  Christian Apologetics &amp;amp; Research Ministry.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Samples, Kenneth R. (Fall 1991 and Winter 1992). [http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0131a.html &amp;quot;Putting the atheist on the defensive&amp;quot;].  ''Christian Research Institute Journal'', p. 7. Internet Christian Library&lt;br /&gt;
*Gilson, Tom (March 21, 2012).  [http://www.faithstreet.com/onfaith/2012/03/21/atheists-dont-own-reason/10924 &amp;quot;Atheists don’t own reason&amp;quot;].  FaithStreet/On Faith.  &lt;br /&gt;
*McInerny, Professor Ralph (1985).  [http://www.leaderu.com/truth/1truth11.html &amp;quot;Why the burden of proof is on the atheist&amp;quot;].  ''Truth Journal'', vol. 1. LeadershipU &lt;br /&gt;
*Platinga, Alvin (1991).  [http://www.leaderu.com/truth/3truth02.html &amp;quot;Theism, atheism, and rationality&amp;quot;]. ''Truth Journal'', vol. 3.  LeadershipU. See [[Alvin Plantinga]]. &lt;br /&gt;
*Day, Vox (2008). [http://www.voxday.net/mart/TIA_free.pdf ''The Irrational Atheist: Dissecting the Unholy Trinity of Dawkins, Harris, and Hitchens''](Dallas TX:  Benbella Books). ISBN 1933771364; ISBN 978-1933771366.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In short, atheism is a fundamentally incoherent worldview with a number of inconsistencies.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;inconsist&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4K_WZpIkM4 &amp;quot;William Lane Craig on scientific naturalism&amp;quot;] (January 12, 2008).  YouTube video, 9:55, posted by Drcraigvideos&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://vimeo.com/102663614 &amp;quot;The Summit lecture series: Scientific naturalism worldview with J.P. Moreland, part 1&amp;quot;] (August 5, 2014).  Vimeo video, 8:10, posted by Jefferson Drexler. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://vimeo.com/103277405 &amp;quot;The Summit lecture series: Scientific naturalism with J.P. Moreland, part 2&amp;quot;] (August 12, 2014).  Vimeo video, 7:43, posted by Jefferson Drexler.  &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://vimeo.com/103865278 &amp;quot;The Summit lecture series: Scientific naturalism worldview with J.P. Moreland, part 3&amp;quot;] (August 19, 2014).  Vimeo video, 7:21, posted by Jefferson Drexler.  &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://vimeo.com/105068126 &amp;quot;The Summit lecture series: Scientific naturalism worldview with J.P. Moreland, part 4&amp;quot;] (September 2, 2014).  Vimeo video, 6:40, posted by Jefferson Drexler. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6cTlDn4PiU &amp;quot;The incoherence of atheism - Ravi Zacharias&amp;quot;] (February 5, 2013).  YouTube video, 51:59, posted by Christianity Reason and Science.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Cooper, Jordan (August 31, 2012).  [http://justandsinner.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-incoherence-of-atheism.html &amp;quot;The incoherence of atheism&amp;quot;].  Just and Sinner blog.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Randy (November 12, 2012).  [http://ephesians4-15.blogspot.com/2012/11/more-on-inconsistent-atheists.html &amp;quot;More on inconsistent atheists&amp;quot;].  Speak the Truth in Love.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Geisler, Norman and McCoy, Daniel J. (June 2014).  ''The Atheist's Fatal Flaw: Exposing Conflicting Beliefs'' (Ada, MI:  Baker Publishing Group).   See [[Norman Geisler]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and irrationality]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and logic]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Irreligion and superstition]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and groupthink]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and epistemology]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and postmodernism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and reason ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and reason]]&lt;br /&gt;
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If [[Naturalism (philosophy)|naturalism]] is true, then we ought not to trust our capacity for [[reason]] for the human [[brain]] would be a byproduct of blind/unintelligent natural forces.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;C.S. Lewis' argument from reason&amp;quot;&amp;gt;*[http://creationevolutiondesign.blogspot.com/2006/09/cs-lewis-argument-from-reason.html C.S. Lewis' argument from reason]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.evolutionnews.org/2013/11/cs_lewis_and_th079541.html C.S. Lewis and the Argument from Reason] by Jay W. Richards, November 25, 2013 &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.acton.org/pub/religion-liberty/volume-6-number-6/cs-lewis-and-materialism C.S. Lewis and Materialism] by John G. West&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://wmbriggs.com/blog/?p=8669 C.S. Lewis On The Validity of Reasoning]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://truthbomb.blogspot.com/2012/04/cs-lewis-on-rationality-and-materialism.html C.S. Lewis on Rationality and Materialism ]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://str.typepad.com/weblog/2008/08/naturalisms-hot.html Naturalism's Hot Water]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Therefore, believing in naturalism is self-defeating.&lt;br /&gt;
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In short, atheism/naturalism and reason are incompatible.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;C.S. Lewis' argument from reason&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Logical fallacies that atheists commonly commit ===&lt;br /&gt;
List of logical fallacies that atheists commonly commit: [[Atheism and logical fallacies]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and meaninglessness ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and meaninglessness]] and [[Nihilism]] and [[Absurdism]] and [[Existentialism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Under an atheistic worldview, there is no objective meaning or purpose in life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Anderson, James (July 16, 2013).  [http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/can-life-have-meaning-without-god &amp;quot;Can life have meaning without God?&amp;quot;] The Gospel Coalition.  &amp;quot;Atheism’s universe is meaningless and valueless&amp;quot;. J.W. Wartick—&amp;quot;Always Have a Reason&amp;quot; [blog&lt;br /&gt;
*Galloway, Katie (December 23, 2013).  [http://www.bethinking.org/atheism/reclaiming-reason-from-atheism &amp;quot;Reclaiming reason from atheism&amp;quot;.]  Bethinking.  [&amp;quot;Why atheism?&amp;quot;]&lt;br /&gt;
*Sirrahc (April 19, 2012).  [http://aviewfromtheright.com/2012/04/19/heat-death-and-atheist-inconsistency-or-isnt-it-ironic/ &amp;quot;Heat death and atheist inconsistency (or, isn’t it ironic?)&amp;quot;].  A View from the Right&lt;br /&gt;
*Shramek, Dustin (2009).  [http://www.oocities.org/athens/delphi/8449/atheism.html &amp;quot;Atheism and death: Why the atheist must face death with despair&amp;quot;].  Contend for the Faith [archive].  Archive&lt;br /&gt;
*Brake, Aaron (2013).  [http://pleaseconvinceme.com/2013/apathy-atheism-and-the-absurdity-of-life-without-god/ &amp;quot;Apathy, atheism, and the absurdity of life without God&amp;quot;].  Pleaseconvinceme.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Prayson, Daniel (December 16, 2010).  [http://withalliamgod.wordpress.com/2010/12/16/the-meaningless-life-of-atheism/ &amp;quot;The meaningless life of atheism&amp;quot;].  With All I Am.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Through [[Jesus Christ]], Christianity offers objective meaning and purpose to life.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Slick, Matt (2012).  [http://carm.org/meaning-of-life &amp;quot;What does the Bible say about the meaning/purpose of life?&amp;quot;].  Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry website&lt;br /&gt;
*[Under a Christian worldview] [http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_MeaningLife.htm &amp;quot;What is the purpose and meaning of life?&amp;quot;] (2009).  Christian Bible Reference Site.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Arrogance of atheism/atheists ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and arrogance]] and [[Atheism and narcissism]] and [[Atheism and deception]] &lt;br /&gt;
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One of the common and well-founded charges against atheists is their arrogance and presumptuousness.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Samples, Kenneth R. (Fall 1991 and Winter 1992). [http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0131a.html &amp;quot;Putting the atheist on the defensive&amp;quot;].  ''Christian Research Institute Journal'', p. 7.  Internet Christian Library &lt;br /&gt;
*Copan, Paul (April 6, 2009).  [http://www.equip.org/articles/the-presumptuousness-of-atheism/ &amp;quot;The presumptuousness of atheism&amp;quot;].  Christian Research Institute. &lt;br /&gt;
*Cupp, S. E. (December 29, 2010).  [http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/arrogance-atheists-batter-believers-religion-smug-certainty-article-1.469613 &amp;quot;The arrogance of the atheists: They batter believers in religion with smug certainty&amp;quot;].  ''New York Daily News''.   See atheist commentator [[S.E. Cupp]]&lt;br /&gt;
*O'Neill, Brendan (August 14, 2013).  [http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/brendanoneill2/100230985/how-atheists-became-the-most-colossally-smug-and-annoying-people-on-the-planet/ &amp;quot;How atheists became the most colossally smug and annoying people on the planet&amp;quot;].  The Telegraph website/Brendan O'Neill [blog].  [atheist author]   &lt;br /&gt;
*Delzell, Dan (October 17, 2011).  [http://www.christianpost.com/news/how-anger-fuels-atheistic-arrogance-58281/ &amp;quot;How anger fuels atheistic arrogance&amp;quot;].  Christian Post website. &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://atheismexposed.tripod.com/atheist_arrogance.htm &amp;quot;Militant atheist arrogance and pride&amp;quot;] (2007).  Militant Atheism Exposed.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Why atheism is an arrogant ideology  ====&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Rebuttals to atheist arguments|Arguments against atheism]] and [[Atheism and arrogance]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Old Nietzsche, 1899.JPG|thumbnail|220px|right|[[Friedrich Nietzsche]] wrote: &amp;quot;But now God is dead. You superior men, this God was your greatest danger. Only since he is in the grave, have you risen again. Only now comes the great noontide; only now the superior man will be – Lord!&amp;quot;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://atheismexposed.tripod.com/atheist_arrogance.htm Friedrich Nietzsche, Thus Spoke Zarathustra, In Michael Curtis (Ed.) The Great Political Theories, Vol. 2 (New York: Avon Books, 1962, PP. 261-262). Cited in, Christopher, J.R., G.G, Wittet, Modern Western Civilization. Toronto: Oxford University Press, 1991, Pages 232, 233]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists [[Attempts to dilute the definition of atheism|lack proof and evidence]] that God does not exist and ignore the [[Christian apologetics websites|clear and abundant proof and evidence]] that He does exist.  The philosopher [[Mortimer Adler]] pointed out that atheism asserts an unreasonable [[universal negative]] that is self-defeating.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;defensive&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Samples, Kenneth R. (Fall 1991 and Winter 1992). [http://www.iclnet.org/pub/resources/text/cri/cri-jrnl/web/crj0131a.html &amp;quot;Putting the atheist on the defensive&amp;quot;].  ''Christian Research Institute Journal'', p. 7. Internet Christian Library&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Contrary to the mistaken notion of individuals who are inexperienced in [[logic]]/philosophy, there are plenty of cases where universal negatives [[Universal negative|can be proven]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Ferguson, Shawn (August 14, 2014).  [http://blog.faithbeyondbelief.ca/2014/08/the-universal-negative-can-it-be-proven.html &amp;quot;The universal negative: Can it be proven?&amp;quot;]  Faith Beyond Belief.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  However, atheists' universal negative claim that God does not exist is not a reasonable universal negative claim.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;defensive&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists have also given themselves pretentious monikers such as [[freethinker]], rationalist and &amp;quot;bright&amp;quot;. See also: [[Brights Movement]] and [[Atheism and intelligence]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, historically militant atheists have commonly endeavored to limit the religious freedom of others while imposing their errant, atheistic ideology on others. See also: [[Atheism and intolerance]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Study: Arrogance of New Atheists ====&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Atheism and arrogance#Study relating the arrogance of New Atheists and the discovery of errors by the New Atheists|Study relating the arrogance of New Atheists]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheists/agnostics and ultimate purpose ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and purpose]] and [[Atheism, agnosticism and pessimism]] and [[Atheism and beliefs]]&lt;br /&gt;
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One of the most popular arguments for God's existence is the [[teleological argument]]. Derived from the Greek word ''telos'', which refers to purpose or end, this argument hinges on the idea that the world gives evidence of being designed, and concludes that a divine designer must be posited to account for the orderly world we encounter.&lt;br /&gt;
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Academic research and historical data indicate that a significant portion of atheists/agnostics often see their lives and the world as being the product of purposeful design (see: [[Atheism and purpose]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Banerjee, Konika and Bloom, Paul (October 17, 2014).  [http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/opinion/sunday/does-everything-happen-for-a-reason.html &amp;quot;Does everything happen for a reason?&amp;quot;]  The New York Times website&lt;br /&gt;
*Catchpoole, David (July 16, 2009 [GMT+10]).  [http://creation.com/children-see-the-world-as-designed &amp;quot;Children see the world as designed&amp;quot;].  Creation.com.  See [[Creation Ministries International]].&lt;br /&gt;
*Atheist [[Jean-Paul Sartre]] made the candid confession: &amp;quot;As for me, I don’t see myself as so much dust that has appeared in the world but as a being that was expected, prefigured, called forth. In short, as a being that could, it seems, come only from a creator; and this idea of a creating hand that created me refers me back to God. Naturally this is not a clear, exact idea that I set in motion every time I think of myself. It contradicts many of my other ideas; but it is there, floating vaguely. And when I think of myself I often think rather in this way, for want of being able to think otherwise.&amp;quot; Source: Turner, Dean (1991). [http://books.google.com/books?id=BGU7LZ2bQ4cC&amp;amp;pg=PA109&amp;amp;lpg=PA109&amp;amp;dq=As+for+me,+I+don%E2%80%99t+see+myself+as+so+much+dust+that+has+appeared+in+the+world+but+as+a+being+that+was+expected,+prefigured,+called+forth.+In+short,+as+a+being+that+could,+it+seems,+come+only+from+a+creator;+and+this+idea+of+a+creating+hand+that+created+me+refers+me+back+to+God.&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=die9xMUdsB&amp;amp;sig=3dAJOK34aBalYieFKcJLdGpwFjY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=NXhqVMSmHMexyASUyYKIBw&amp;amp;ved=0CCwQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=As%20for%20me%2C%20I%20don%E2%80%99t%20see%20myself%20as%20so%20much%20dust%20that%20has%20appeared%20in%20the%20world%20but%20as%20a%20being%20that%20was%20expected%2C%20prefigured%2C%20called%20forth.%20In%20short%2C%20as%20a%20being%20that%20could%2C%20it%20seems%2C%20come%20only%20from%20a%20creator%3B%20and%20this%20idea%20of%20a%20creating%20hand%20that%20created%20me%20refers%20me%20back%20to%20God.&amp;amp;f=false ''Escape from God: The Use of Religion and Philosophy to Evade Responsibility''] (Pasadena, California:  Hope Publishing House), p. 109. GoogleBooks archive.&lt;br /&gt;
*The ''Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy'' declares about the agnostic/[[weak atheism|weak atheist]] Charles Darwin: &amp;quot;In 1885, the Duke of Argyll recounted a conversation he had had with Charles Darwin the year before Darwin's death: 'In the course of that conversation I said to Mr. Darwin, with reference to some of his own remarkable works on the Fertilization of [[Orchid]]s, and upon The [[Earthworm]]s, and various other observations he made of the wonderful contrivances for certain purposes in nature — I said it was impossible to look at these without seeing that they were the effect and the expression of Mind. I shall never forget Mr. Darwin's answer. He looked at me very hard and said, &amp;quot;Well, that often comes over me with overwhelming force; but at other times,&amp;quot; and he shook his head vaguely, adding, &amp;quot;it seems to go away.&amp;quot;' (Argyll 1885, 244)&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
**[http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/teleological-arguments/notes.html &amp;quot;Notes to 'Teleological arguments for God's existence'&amp;quot;] [article revised removing reference in January 2015].&lt;br /&gt;
**The Duke of Argyll (1885).  [http://books.google.com/books?id=CskhAQAAIAAJ&amp;amp;printsec=frontcover&amp;amp;dq=%22good+words%22&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=fs24VKGOMpDnsATg_4HYDQ&amp;amp;ved=0CDkQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=%22it%20seems%20to%20go%20away%22&amp;amp;f=false &amp;quot;What is science?&amp;quot;]  ''Good Words'' [United Kingdom], vol. 26, p. 244. GoogleBooks archive&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and religion ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Atheism is a religion ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism is a religion]] and [[Atheist cults]] and [[Atheist hypocrisy]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sanderson Jones.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|The [[British atheism|British atheist]] Sanderson Jones is a founder of the Sunday Assembly atheist church movement.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/06/atheist-church-split_n_4550456.html Atheist Church Split: Sunday Assembly And Godless Revival's 'Denominational Chasm'], Huffington Post, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Atheism is a religion]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Atheismisareligion&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/atheism-a-religion Is Atheism a religion?] by Daniel Smartt, Published: 4 May 2010(GMT+10)&lt;br /&gt;
*Hodge, Bodie; Patterson, Roger (2016). ''[https://assets.answersingenesis.org/doc/prod/etc/sample/10-2-476_sample.pdf ''World Religions and Cults Vol. 3'']. Master Books. 29–44. ISBN: 978-0-89051-970-7.&lt;br /&gt;
*Hodge, Bodie; Ham, Ken (Febraury 20, 2017). [https://answersingenesis.org/world-religions/atheism/atheism-is-religion/ Atheism Is Religion]. ''Answers in Genesis''. Retrieved March 27, 2018.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  And many of the leaders of the atheist movement, such as the evolutionist and [[New Atheism|new atheist]]/agnostic Richard Dawkins, argue for agnosticism/atheism with a religious fervor. &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, although many atheists deny that atheism is a worldview, atheists commonly share a [[Atheism and beliefs|number of beliefs]] such as [[Naturalism (philosophy)|naturalism]], belief in evolution and [[Origin of life|abiogenesis]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Slick, Matt (October 2011).  [http://carm.org/atheism-worldview &amp;quot;Is atheism a worldview?&amp;quot;]  Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry website.  See [[CARM]]&lt;br /&gt;
*Hearn, Brian F. (December 31, 2009).  [http://www.apologetics.net/post/Atheism-a-worldview.aspx &amp;quot;Atheism a worldview?&amp;quot;]  Apologetics.net.&lt;br /&gt;
*Hearn, Brian F. (May 2, 2012).  [http://www.apologetics.net/post/Atheism-is-a-worldview-%28II%29.aspx &amp;quot;Atheism is a worldview II&amp;quot;].  Apologetics.net. &lt;br /&gt;
*Bannister, Andy (October 14, 2013).  [http://www.rzim.eu/the-scandanavian-sceptic-or-why-atheism-is-a-belief-system &amp;quot;The Scandanavian sceptic (or why atheism is a belief system)&amp;quot;].  Ravi Zacharias International Ministries website.  See [[Ravi Zacharias]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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Roderick Ninian Smart, a Scottish writer and professor, defined a seven-part scheme of understanding both religious and secular worldviews&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Smart, Ninian (1996).  [http://books.google.com/books?id=14j2UrLCi64C&amp;amp;pg=PA130&amp;amp;lpg=PA130&amp;amp;dq=ninian+smart+narrative&amp;amp;source=bl&amp;amp;ots=Hq3WwG_mVT&amp;amp;sig=j-8FpwSdqohURYodSdcl46erSJY&amp;amp;hl=en&amp;amp;sa=X&amp;amp;ei=FgybT6zxIc-_gAe864X6Dg&amp;amp;ved=0CCoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&amp;amp;q=ninian%20smart%20narrative&amp;amp;f=false ''Dimensions of the Sacred'' [preview&amp;amp;#93;] (Oakland, CA: University of California Press).  Preview: GoogleBooks&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  These can be understood as narrative, experiential, social, ethical, doctrinal, ritual and material.&lt;br /&gt;
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English Pastor Daniel Smartt defines atheism as a religion, using Ninian Smart's seven dimensions of worldview as a list of criteria. It is not necessary in Smartt's model for every one of these to be present in order for something to be a religion.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Smartt, Daniel (November 6, 2008).  [http://archive.is/L3cY5 &amp;quot;Atheism religion naturalism morally relative&amp;quot;].  Archive of SpiritualLiving360°.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, it can be argued that all seven are present in the case of atheism.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Atheismisareligion&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;*Ammi, Ken (June 11, 2009).  [http://creation.com/atheism &amp;quot;Atheism&amp;quot;].  Creation Ministries International.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2013, a trend of atheist services began and atheist services were reported in the ''[[New York Times]]'', ''[[The Blaze]]'' and other major news outlets.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Thier, Dave (June 23, 2013).  [http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/24/us/in-the-bible-belt-offering-atheists-a-spiritual-home.html?_r=0 &amp;quot;In the Bible belt offering atheists a spiritual home&amp;quot;].  Nytimes.com&lt;br /&gt;
*Hallowell, Billy (April 17, 2013).  [http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/17/atheist-sunday-morning-worship-services-are-on-the-rise/ &amp;quot;Bizarre trend: atheist Sunday morning ‘worship’ services are on the rise (minus God, of course)&amp;quot;]  TheBlaze.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Ortberg, Mallory (January 5, 2013).  [http://gawker.com/5973377/londons-first-atheist-church-opens-tomorrow &amp;quot;London's first atheist church opens tomorrow&amp;quot;.]  Gawker.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:2384975035 230a0eac30.jpg|thumb|right|170px|The [[Wall Street Journal]] reported: &amp;quot;A comprehensive new study released by Baylor University yesterday, shows ...that the irreligious and the members of more liberal Protestant denominations, far from being resistant to [[superstition]], tend to be much more likely to believe in the paranormal and in [[pseudoscience]] than evangelical Christians.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;online.wsj.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178219865054585.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In September 2008, the [[Wall Street Journal]] reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The reality is that the New Atheist campaign, by discouraging [[religion]], won't create a new group of intelligent, skeptical, enlightened beings. Far from it: It might actually encourage new levels of mass [[superstition]]. And that's not a conclusion to take on faith—it's what the empirical data tell us.&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;What Americans Really Believe,&amp;quot; a comprehensive new study released by Baylor University yesterday, shows that [[Conservative Christianity|traditional Christian religion]] greatly decreases belief in everything from the efficacy of palm readers to the usefulness of [[astrology]]. It also shows that the irreligious and the members of more liberal Protestant denominations, far from being resistant to superstition, tend to be much more likely to believe in the paranormal and in [[pseudoscience]] than evangelical Christians....&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;paranormal&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Hemingway, Molly Ziegler (September 19, 2008). [http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122178219865054585.html &amp;quot;Look who's irrational now&amp;quot;].  The Wall Street Journal website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Loc of United States.png|thumbnail|175px|right|According to Pew Forum, [[Evangelicalism|evangelical Protestant]] churches in America grew by 2 million from 2007 to 2014.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wnd.com/2015/05/why-conservative-churches-are-still-growing/ Why conservative churches are still growing]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  See: [[Atheism vs. Christianity]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism vs. Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In relation to [[Atheism and Miracles|atheism and miracles]], modern scholars are divided on the issue of whether or not [[David Hume]] was an atheist.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Russell, Paul (February 11, 2013). [http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/hume-religion/#10 &amp;quot;Hume on religion&amp;quot;]. ''The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy'' (Spring 2013 Edition), Edward N. Zalta (ed.). &lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; With that caveat in mind, Hume is well known for arguing that it is always more probable that the testimony of a miracle is false than that the miracle occurred.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Lennox, John (2009).  [http://www.bethinking.org/are-miracles-possible/the-question-of-miracles-the-contemporary-influence-of-hume &amp;quot;The question of miracles: the contemporary influence of Hume&amp;quot;].  BeThinking. &lt;br /&gt;
*Craig, Dr. William Lane (1986).  [http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/docs/miracles.html &amp;quot;The problem of miracles: a historical and philosophical perspective&amp;quot;].  ''Gospel Perspectives'', vol 6, ed. by David Wenham and Craig Blomberg (Sheffield, England: JSOT Press), pp. 9-40.  LeadershipU&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Christian apologists [[William Lane Craig]], [[Norman Geisler]], [[C.S. Lewis]], [[JP Holding]], and others have shown the inadequacy and unreasonableness of Hume's position regarding miracles.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Lennox, John (2009).  [http://www.bethinking.org/are-miracles-possible/the-question-of-miracles-the-contemporary-influence-of-hume &amp;quot;The question of miracles: the contemporary influence of Hume&amp;quot;].  BeThinking.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Craig, Dr. William Lane (1986).  [http://www.leaderu.com/offices/billcraig/docs/miracles.html &amp;quot;The problem of miracles: a historical and philosophical perspective&amp;quot;].  ''Gospel Perspectives'', vol 6, ed. by David Wenham and Craig Blomberg (Sheffield, England: JSOT Press), pp. 9-40.  LeadershipU &lt;br /&gt;
*Hoffman, Paul K. (Spring 1999).  [http://www.galaxie.com/article/caj02-1-03?highlight=hoffmanA &amp;quot;A jurisprudential analysis of Hume’s ‘in principal’ argument against miracles&amp;quot; [excerpt&amp;amp;#93;].  ''Christian Apologetics Journal'', 2:1, p. 2.   Galaxie Software.  Subscription required for full article.&lt;br /&gt;
*Geisler, Professor Norman (1985).  [http://www.leaderu.com/truth/1truth19.html &amp;quot;Miracles and modern scientific thought&amp;quot;].  ''Truth Journal'', vol. 1.  LeadershipU&lt;br /&gt;
*Lewis, C. S. (1960).  [http://books.google.com/books/about/Miracles.html?id=tH8di3qQDhEC ''Miracles''] (New York:  HarperCollins).  Abstract: Google Books&lt;br /&gt;
*Holding, J. P. [http://www.tektonics.org/gk/hume01.html &amp;quot;David Hume: a critique&amp;quot;].  Tekton Apologetics. &lt;br /&gt;
*Esposito, Lenny (2002).  [http://www.comereason.org/phil_qstn/phi060.asp &amp;quot;Are miracles logically impossible?&amp;quot;]  Come Reason Ministries.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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The ''Christian Post'' reporter Stoyan Zaimov wrote: &amp;quot;Double-blind prayer experiments: where people pray for others with terminal illness. [[Gary Habermas|Habermas]] admitted that most such experiments have not worked, but the three that he knows of that have indeed worked were cases of orthodox-Christians praying for the sick.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christianpost.com/news/christian-apologist-10-reasons-for-the-fall-of-atheism-106531/ Christian Apologist: 10 Reasons for the Fall of Atheism] by Stoyan Zaimov,'' Christian Post'', October 14, 2013&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Atheists who believe in life after death ====&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and the supernatural]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A survey involving 15,738 individuals found that 32 percent of Americans who identified themselves as agnostics and atheists believe in an afterlife of some kind.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.theskepticsguide.org/one-third-of-atheists-agnostics-believe-in-an-afterlife Survey: 32% of Atheists &amp;amp; Agnostics Believe in an Afterlife], Skepticsguide.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://relationshipsinamerica.com/religion/do-people-still-believe-in-life-after-death Do people still believe in life after death?], Austin Institute for the Study of Family and Culture Study&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and death ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Atheism and death.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|According to a study performed in the United States by researchers Wink and Scott, very religious people fear death the least.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/050628_deathfearfrm.htm &amp;quot;Fear of death: Worst if you’re a little religious?&amp;quot;] (July 13, 2005).  World Science.&lt;br /&gt;
*Wink, P. L. and Scott, J. A. (July 2005).  [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15980288 &amp;quot;Does religiousness buffer against the fear of death and dying in late adulthood? Findings from a longitudinal study&amp;quot; [abstract&amp;amp;#93;].  ''The Journals of Gerontology, series B, Psychological Sciences and Social Sciences'', vol. 60, no. 4, pp. 207-14. PubMed.gov&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and death]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and death]] and [[Atheist funerals]] and [[Atheism and Hell]] &lt;br /&gt;
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''Science Daily'' reported that ''Death anxiety increases atheists' unconscious belief in God''.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Otago&amp;quot;&amp;gt;University of Otago [New Zealand] (April 2, 2012).  [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/04/120402094322.htm &amp;quot;Death anxiety increases atheists' unconscious belief in God&amp;quot;].  ScienceDaily.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In a ''Psychology Today'' article, Dr. Nathan A. Heflick reported similar results in other studies.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Heflick&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Heflick, Nathan A. (May 25, 2012).  [http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-big-questions/201205/atheists-death-and-belief-in-god &amp;quot;Atheists, death and belief in God: The effects of death reminders on atheists' supernatural beliefs&amp;quot;].  Psychology Today website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Under stress, the brain's processing works in a way that prefers unconscious thinking.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Ruhr University Bochum (August 9, 2012). [http://aktuell.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/pm2012/pm00263.html.en &amp;quot;Learn to forecast the weather after stress&amp;quot;].  aktuell.ruhr-uni-bochum.de.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Gregoire, Carolyn (July 31, 2013).  [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/07/31/learn-under-stress-brain_n_3678222.html &amp;quot;How the brain learns successfully, even under stress&amp;quot;].  The Huffington Post.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A United States study and a [[Taiwan]]ese study indicated that the irreligious fear death more than the very religious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.world-science.net/exclusives/050628_deathfearfrm.htm &amp;quot;Fear of death: Worst if you’re a little religious?&amp;quot;] (July 13, 2005).  World Science.&lt;br /&gt;
*Wink, Paul. and Scott, Julia. (July 2005).  [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15980288 &amp;quot;Does religiousness buffer against the fear of death and dying in late adulthood? Findings from a longitudinal study&amp;quot;].  ''The Journals of Gerontology. Series B Psychological Sciences and Social Sciences'', vol. 60, no. 4, pp. 207-14. PubMed.gov.&lt;br /&gt;
*Wen, Ya-hui. (December 2010). [http://www.hraljournal.com/Page/4%20Ya-Hui%20Wen.pdf &amp;quot;Religiosity and death anxiety&amp;quot;]. ''The Journal of Human Resource and Adult Learning'', vol. 6, no. 2, pp. 31-37. The Journal of Human Resource and Adult Learning website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Atheists and belief in life after death ====&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and life after death]] and [[Atheists and supernatural beliefs]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A significant percentage of atheists believe in life after death (see: [[Atheism and life after death]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.theskepticsguide.org/one-third-of-atheists-agnostics-believe-in-an-afterlife Survey: 32% of Atheists &amp;amp; Agnostics Believe in an Afterlife]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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For additional information, please see: &lt;br /&gt;
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* [[Atheism and cryonics]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and transhumanism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Atheism and Hell ====&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:''  [[Atheism and Hell]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The journalist and [[ex-atheists|ex-atheist]] [[Peter Hitchens]], who is the brother of the late atheist [[Christopher Hitchens]], said upon seeing an art exhibit of [[Michelangelo]]'s painting ''The Last Judgment'' he came to the realization that he might be judged which startled him.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;PH&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://vimeo.com/10354237 &amp;quot;Peter Hitchens author interview—The rage against God&amp;quot;] [interview of Peter Hitchens] (March 22, 2010).  Vimeo video, 8:38, posted by Gorilla Poet Productions.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This started a train of thought within Peter Hitchens that eventually led him to become a [[Christian]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;PH&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and science ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Newton.jpg|alt=atheism quotes|right|thumbnail|200px|[[Isaac Newton]] wrote: &amp;quot;I have a fundamental belief in the [[Bible]] as the Word of [[God]], written by men who were inspired. I study the Bible daily. Opposition to godliness is atheism in profession and idolatry in practice. Atheism is so senseless and odious to mankind that it never had many professors.&amp;quot; See also: [[Atheism Quotes|Atheism quotes]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Atheism and science]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and the suppression of science ===&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Atheism and the suppression of science]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and the social sciences ===&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Atheism and the social sciences]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and the foundation of modern science ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Christianity and science]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The birth of modern [[science]] occurred in Christianized Europe.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Bumbulis, Michael, Ph. D. (November 24, 1996). [http://www.ldolphin.org/bumbulis/#anchor5343749 &amp;quot;Christianity and the birth of science; The evidence; Clue #1. The founders/fathers of modern science were shaped by a culture that was predominantly Christian.&amp;quot;]  Lambert Dolphin's Library.  Archived at Internet Archive on July 20, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Sociology|Sociologist]] [[Rodney Stark]] investigated the individuals who made the most significant scientific contributions between 1543 and 1680 A.D., the time of the [[Scientific Revolution]].&lt;br /&gt;
In Stark's list of 52 top scientific contributors,&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Origins&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Williams, Alex (August 2004).  [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1581/ &amp;quot;The biblical origins of science; a review of ''For The Glory of God: How Monotheism Led to Reformations, Science, Witch-hunts and the End of Slavery'' by Rodney Stark&amp;quot;], ''Journal of Creation'', vol. 18:2, pp. 49–52.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; only one ([[Edmund Halley]]) was a skeptic and another ([[Paracelsus]]) was a [[pantheism|pantheist]].&lt;br /&gt;
The other 50 were Christians, 30 of whom could be characterized as being devout Christians.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Origins&amp;quot; /&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Sir [[Francis Bacon]], sometimes referred to as &amp;quot;the Father of Modern Science&amp;quot;, wrote in his essay entitled ''Of Atheism'': &amp;quot;I had rather believe all the fables in the Legend, and the [[Talmud]], and the [[Koran|Alcoran]], than that this universal frame is without a mind.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bacon&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Bacon, Francis (1601).  [http://www.authorama.com/essays-of-francis-bacon-17.html ''The Essays or Counsels, Civil and Moral, of Francis Ld. Verulam Viscount St. Albans''; &amp;quot;Of atheism&amp;quot;].  Authorama.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Atheism and questions of origins===&lt;br /&gt;
:''See articles: [[Atheism and Evolution]]'' and [[Evolution as a secular origins myth]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Creationism|Creationist]] scientists state that the [[First Law of Thermodynamics|first law of thermodynamics]] and the [[Second Law of Thermodynamics|second law of thermodynamics]] argue against an eternal universe or a universe created by natural processes and argue for a universe created by [[God]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Hergenrather, John (2004).  [http://www.creationencounter.com/space/lawsofscience.php &amp;quot;Evidences for God from space:  can laws of science explain the origin of the universe?&amp;quot;]  Creation Encounter. &lt;br /&gt;
*Thompson, Bert (2003).  [http://www.apologeticspress.org/apcontent.aspx?category=12&amp;amp;article=310 &amp;quot;So long, eternal universe; 'Hello beginning, hello end!'&amp;quot;]  Apologetics Press.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Brown, Dr. Walt (2008).  [http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/AstroPhysicalSciences14.html &amp;quot;Chapter 2: astronomical and physical sciences&amp;quot;, p. 53.]  ''In the Beginning: Compelling Evidence for Creation and the Flood'', 8th ed. The Center for Scientific Creation.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and the origin of the universe]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A majority of the most prominent and vocal defenders of the evolutionary position which employs [[methodological naturalism]] since [[World War II]] have had the worldview of atheism/agnosticism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* Dr. Don Batten, [http://creation.com/a-whos-who-of-evolutionists A ''Who’s Who'' of evolutionists] ''Creation'' 20(1):32, December 1997.&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Jonathan Sarfati]], Ph.D.,F.M., [http://www.creation.com/content/view/3830 ''Refuting Evolution'', Chapter 1, Facts and Bias]&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  [[Creation science|Creation scientists]] assert that the theory of evolution is an inadequate explanation for the variety of life forms on earth.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Morris, Henry M., PhD. (January 2001). [http://www.icr.org/home/resources/resources_tracts_scientificcaseagainstevolution/ &amp;quot;The scientific case against evolution&amp;quot;].  Institute for Creation Research.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The theory of evolution [[Social effects of the theory of evolution|has had a number of negative social effects]]. &lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, the current naturalistic explanations for the [[origin of life]] are inadequate.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/origin-of-life Origin of life] by Dr. Don Batten&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and scientific community ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and science]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Scientists and belief in the existence of God]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and the origin of the universe|Atheist scientists and the origin of the universe]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheists and the National Academy of Sciences]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and scientific fraud and speculation ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and deception|Atheism and scientific fraud and speculation]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Atheism and mental and physical health==&lt;br /&gt;
:''See also:'' [[Atheism and health]] and [[Atheism and alcoholism]] and [[Atheism and negative emotions/thoughts]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The is considerable amount of [[science|scientific]] evidence that suggest that theism is more conducive to mental and physical health than atheism and some of the more significant findings are given below &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3671693/ Religion, Spirituality, and Health: The Research and Clinical Implications] by Harold G. Koenig, ISRN Psychiatry. 2012; 2012: 278730.&lt;br /&gt;
*Mueller, Dr. Paul S. et al. (December 2001). [http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196%2811%2962799-7/fulltext &amp;quot;Religious involvement, spirituality, and medicine: implications for clinical practice&amp;quot;]. ''Mayo Clinic Proceedings'' vol. 76:12, pp. 1225-1235.  Mayo Clinic Proceedings website&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.spiritualityandhealth.duke.edu/index.php/research/research-library &amp;quot;Research library&amp;quot;].  Duke University Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health. &lt;br /&gt;
*McCullough, Michael E. et al. (2000).  [http://www.psy.miami.edu/faculty/mmccullough/Papers/rel_mort_meta.pdf &amp;quot;Religious involvement and mortality: a meta-analytic review&amp;quot;].  ''Health Psychology''. vol. 19:3. pp. 211-222.  University of Miami, College of Arts and Sciences, Department of Psychology website&lt;br /&gt;
*Casey, Professor Patricia (April 3, 2009).  [http://www.ionainstitute.ie/the-benefits-of-religious-practise/  &amp;quot;The psycho-social benefits of religious practise&amp;quot; [executive summary&amp;amp;#93;].  Iona Institute for Religion and Society [Ireland] website.  &lt;br /&gt;
*McCullough, Michael E. and Willoughby, Brian L. B. (2009).  [http://www.psy.miami.edu/faculty/mmccullough/Papers/Relig_self_control_bulletin.pdf &amp;quot;Religion, self-regulation, and self-control: associations, explanations, and implications&amp;quot;]. ''Psychological Bulletin'', vol. 135: 1, pp. 69–93.  University of Miami, College of Arts and Sciences, Department of Psychology website&lt;br /&gt;
*University of Colorado at Boulder (May 17, 1999).  [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1999/05/990517064323.htm &amp;quot;Research shows religion plays a major role in health, longevity&amp;quot;].  ScienceDaily.  &lt;br /&gt;
*Dervic, Kanita, et al. (December 2004).  [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15569904 &amp;quot;Religious affiliation and suicide attempt&amp;quot; [abstract&amp;amp;#93;]. ''The American Journal of Psychiatry'', vol. 161:12, pp. 2303-8.  Abstract: National Institutes of Health, U.S. National Library of Medicine, National Center for Biotechnology Information, Pub Med &lt;br /&gt;
*University of Warwick (December 2003).  [http://www.scienceblog.com/community/older/2003/A/20037338.html &amp;quot;Psychology researcher [Dr. Stephen Joseph&amp;amp;#93; says spiritual meaning of Christmas brings more happiness than materialism&amp;quot;].  Scienceblog.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; For more information please see: [[Atheism and health]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Mayo Clinic and other studies ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Mayo-clinic-gondaoverview.jpg|thumb|right|200px|The prestigious [[Mayo Clinic]] found that &lt;br /&gt;
religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better physical health and mental health outcomes.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Mueller&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Mueller, Dr. Paul S. et al. (December 2001). [http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/S0025-6196%2811%2962799-7/fulltext &amp;quot;Religious involvement, spirituality, and medicine: implications for clinical practice&amp;quot;]. ''Mayo Clinic Proceedings'' vol. 76:12, pp. 1225-1235. Mayo Clinic Proceedings website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and health]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
The prestigious [[Mayo Clinic]] reported the following on December 11, 2001:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|In an article also published in this issue of Mayo Clinic Proceedings, Mayo Clinic researchers reviewed published studies, meta-analyses, systematic reviews and subject reviews that examined the association between religious involvement and spirituality and physical health, mental health, health-related quality of life and other health outcomes.&lt;br /&gt;
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The authors report a majority of the nearly 350 studies of physical health and 850 studies of mental health that have used religious and spiritual variables have found that religious involvement and spirituality are associated with better health outcomes.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Mueller&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;}} &lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Iona Institute]] reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|A meta-analysis of all studies, both published and unpublished, relating to religious involvement and longevity was carried out in 2000. Forty-two studies were included, involving some 126,000 subjects. Active religious involvement increased the chance of living longer by some 29%, and participation in public religious practices, such as church attendance, increased the chance of living longer by 43%.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Casey, Professor Patricia (April 3, 2009).  [http://www.ionainstitute.ie/the-benefits-of-religious-practise/  &amp;quot;The psycho-social benefits of religious practise&amp;quot; [executive summary&amp;amp;#93;].  Iona Institute for Religion and Society [Ireland] website.&lt;br /&gt;
*McCullough, Michael E. et al. (2000).  [http://www.psy.miami.edu/faculty/mmccullough/Papers/rel_mort_meta.pdf &amp;quot;Religious involvement and mortality: a meta-analytic review&amp;quot;].  ''Health Psychology''. vol. 19:3. pp. 211-222.  University of Miami, College of Arts and Sciences, Department of Psychology website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Atheism and suicide===&lt;br /&gt;
:''See also:''  [[Atheism and suicide]] and [[Atheism and depression]] and [[Hopelessness of atheism]] and [[Atheism, agnosticism and pessimism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Although there are recent studies relating to [[Atheism and suicide|atheism being a causal factor for suicide for some individuals]], an early proponent of atheism being a causal factor for [[suicide]] was the Reverend Dr. [[Robert Stuart MacArthur]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Dervic, Kanita, et al. (December 2004).  [http://www.adherents.com/misc/religion_suicide.html &amp;quot;Religious affiliation and suicide attempt&amp;quot; [summary&amp;amp;#93;]. ''The American Journal of Psychiatry'', vol. 161:12, pp. 2303-8.  Summary: Adherents.com. Website contains link to article at American Journal of Psychiatry website.&lt;br /&gt;
*Dervic, Kanita, et al. (December 2004).  [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15569904 &amp;quot;Religious affiliation and suicide attempt&amp;quot; [abstract&amp;amp;#93;]. ''The American Journal of Psychiatry'', vol. 161:12, pp. 2303-8.  Abstract: National Institutes of Health, U.S. National Library of Medicine, National Center for Biotechnology Information, Pub Med &lt;br /&gt;
*[http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9507E2DC1131E033A25754C1A96F9C94659ED7CF &amp;quot;Atheism a cause of suicide; Dr. MacArthur preaches on the sin and cowardice of self-destruction&amp;quot;] (September 17, 1894).  ''New York Times'', p. 2.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In 1894, the [[NY Times|''New York Times'']] stated the following in relation to atheism and suicide:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Dr. Martin urged that a great cause of suicide was atheism. It was, he said, a remarkable fact that where atheism prevailed most, there suicides were most numerous. In [[Paris]], a recent census showed one suicide to every 2,700 of the population. After the publication of Paine's &amp;quot;Age of Reason&amp;quot; suicides increased.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;nytimes&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9507E2DC1131E033A25754C1A96F9C94659ED7CF &amp;quot;Atheism a cause of suicide; Dr. MacArthur preaches on the sin and cowardice of self-destruction&amp;quot;] (September 17, 1894).  ''New York Times'', p. 2.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}} &lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Desperation_man.jpg‎ |thumb|left|200px|Atheists have higher suicide rates. See: [[Atheism and suicide]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The website Adherents.com reported the following in respect to atheism and suicide:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Pitzer College sociologist Phil Zuckerman compiled country-by-country survey, polling and census numbers relating to atheism, agnosticism, disbelief in God and people who state they are non-religious or have no religious preference...In examining various indicators of societal health, Zuckerman concludes about suicide:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;...According to the 2003 World Health Organization's report on international male suicides rates (which compared 100 countries), of the top ten nations with the highest male suicide rates, all but one (Sri Lanka) are strongly irreligious nations with high levels of atheism.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.adherents.com/misc/religion_suicide.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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For more information please see: &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and suicide]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and loneliness]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Hopelessness of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Europe pol 2004.jpg|thumbnail|250px|right|According to the [[World Health Organization]]'s (WHO) regional office in Europe, &amp;quot;The WHO European Region has the highest proportion in the world of total ill health and premature death due to alcohol.&amp;lt;ref name=whoalc&amp;gt;[http://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topics/disease-prevention/alcohol-use/data-and-statistics &amp;quot;Data and statistics&amp;quot;] (September 2014 or bef.).  Health topics/Disease prevention/Alcohol use.  World Health Organization (WHO)/Regional office for Europe&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and alcoholism ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and alcoholism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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At least 100 studies suggests religion has a positive effect on preventing alcohol-related problems, researchers Christopher Ellison, Jennifer Barrett and Benjamin Moulton noted in an article in the ''Journal for the Scientific Study of Religion'' on “Gender, Marital Status, and Alcohol Behavior: The Neglected Role of Religion.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-briggs/charlie-sheen-circus-and-_b_836934.html The Doubled-Edged Sword of Religion and Alcoholism]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists and atheistic cultures often have significant problems with excess alcohol usage (For more information please see: [[Atheism and alcoholism]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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For example, as far as secular Europe, according to the [[World Health Organization]]'s (WHO) regional office in Europe, &amp;quot;The WHO European Region has the highest proportion in the world of total ill health and premature death due to alcohol.&amp;lt;ref name=whoalc/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and illegal drug use and drug addition ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and drug addiction]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Studies indicate that religious individuals are less likely to engage in illegal drug use than atheists/nonreligious.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.christianpost.com/news/believers-consume-fewer-drugs-than-atheists-106266/ Believers Consume Fewer Drugs Than Atheists], ''Christian Post'', By Jim Denison, Christian Post Columnist, October 9, 2013|9:47 am&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131003093041.htm Believers consume fewer drugs than atheists], Science Daily, Date:October 3, 2013, Source: Schweizerischer Nationalfonds zur Foerderung der wissenschaftlichen Forschung]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*McCullough, Michael E. and Willoughby, Brian L. B. (January 2009).  [http://www.psy.miami.edu/faculty/mmccullough/Papers/Relig_self_control_bulletin.pdf &amp;quot;Religion, self-regulation, and self-control: associations, explanations, and implications&amp;quot;] ''Psychological Bulletin'', vol. 135, no. 1, pp. 69-93.  Retrieved from University of Miami department of psychology website on September 10, 2014.&lt;br /&gt;
*Alternate source of abstract: [http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19210054 &amp;quot;Religion, self-regulation, and self-control: associations, explanations, and implications&amp;quot; [abstract&amp;amp;#93;].   Retrieved from PubMed.gov on September 10, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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According to ''Science Daily'': &amp;quot;Young [[Switzerland|Swiss]] men who say that they believe in [[God]] are less likely to smoke cigarettes or pot or take ecstasy pills than Swiss men of the same age group who describe themselves as atheists. Belief is a protective factor against addictive behaviour. This is the conclusion reached by a study funded by the Swiss National Science Foundation.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Schweizerischer Nationalfonds zur Foerderung der wissenschaftlichen Forschung [Swiss National Science Foundation] (October 3, 2013).  [http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/10/131003093041.htm &amp;quot;Believers consume fewer drugs than atheists&amp;quot;].  Science Daily website/Science News.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and loneliness ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Depressed man.jpg|thumb|right|200px|Secular societies commonly have significant levels of loneliness. See: [[Atheism and loneliness]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and loneliness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Loneliness has been linked to many physical and mental health problems.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Gammon, Katherine (March 2, 2012).  [http://www.livescience.com/18800-loneliness-health-problems.html &amp;quot;Why loneliness can be deadly&amp;quot;].  Live Science website.&lt;br /&gt;
*Booth, Robert (October 12, 2014).  &amp;quot;Number of severely lonely men over 50 set to rise to 1m in 15 years&amp;quot;, ''The Guardian''.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Compared to deeply religious cultures where an extended family and a sense of community often exists, secular countries [[Secular countries and loneliness|are often lonelier societies]]. In addition, numerous studies and other data indicate that atheists often have lower [[emotional intelligence]] and lower social skills (see: [[Atheism and emotional/intrapersonal intelligence|Atheism and emotional intelligence]] and [[Atheism and interpersonal intelligence|Atheism and social skills]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and loneliness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and cancer ===&lt;br /&gt;
See also: [[Atheism and cancer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Irreligious countries such as European countries and China, have significant problems with cancer (see: [[Atheism and cancer]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[World Health Organization]] declares concerning [[secular Europe]]: &amp;quot;Europe comprises only one eighth of the total world population but has around one quarter of the global total of [[cancer]] cases with some 3.7 million new patients per year.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.euro.who.int/en/health-topics/noncommunicable-diseases/cancer/data-and-statistics World Health Organization - Cancer statistics for Europe]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Europe and cancer]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Denmark]], [[France]] and [[Australia]] have significantly higher rates of individuals holding to an [[Atheist worldview|atheistic worldview]] (see also: [[Irreligion in Denmark]] and [[French atheism]] and [[Irreligion in Australia]]). According to the World Cancer Research Fund International, Denmark, France and Australia have the three highest [[per capita]] cancer rates in the world.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.wcrf.org/int/cancer-facts-figures/data-cancer-frequency-country Data for cancer frequency by country],  World Cancer Research Fund International&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheist and higher levels of harmful genetic mutations ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheists and genetic mutations]]&lt;br /&gt;
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There is research which suggests that the atheist population has higher levels of harmful genetic [[mutations]] (see: [[Atheists and genetic mutations]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.newsweek.com/religion-healthy-atheism-mutant-genes-756984 RELIGIOUS PEOPLE LIVE HEALTHIER, LONGER LIVES—WHILE ATHEISTS COLLECT MUTANT GENES], Newsweek, 2017&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[Atheists are more likely to be left handed, study finds], ''The Telegraph'', 2017&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and obesity ===&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Atheism and obesity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Sports performance: Religious faith vs. atheism ===&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[Sports performance: Religious faith vs. atheism]] and [[Irreligion and unsportsmanlike conduct]] and [[Atheism and obesity]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Basketball.jpg|left|225px|thumbnail|Numerous studies report that athletes to be more religious than non-athletes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thesportjournal.org/article/strength-religious-faith-athletes-and-nonathletes-two-ncaa-division-iii-institutions ''Strength of Religious Faith of Athletes and Nonathletes at Two NCAA Division III Institutions'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
''The [[Sport]]s Journal'' is a monthly refereed journal published by the United States Sports Academy. &lt;br /&gt;
A journal article appeared in the Sports Journal entitled ''Strength of Religious Faith of Athletes and Nonathletes at Two NCAA Division III Institutions''. The article was submitted by Nathan T. Bell, Scott R. Johnson, and Jeffrey C. Petersen from Ball State University.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;thesportjournal.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://thesportjournal.org/article/strength-of-religious-faith-of-athletes-and-nonathletes-at-two-ncaa-division-iii-institutions/ ''Strength of Religious Faith of Athletes and Nonathletes at Two NCAA Division III Institutions'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
An excerpt from the abstract of the journal article ''Strength of Religious Faith of Athletes and Nonathletes at Two NCAA Division III Institutions'' declares:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Numerous studies report athletes to be more religious than nonathletes (Fischer, 1997; Storch, Kolsky, Silvestri, &amp;amp; Storch, 2001; Storch et al., 2004). According to Storch, Kolsky, Silvestri, and Storch (2001), four reasons may explain why religion interacts with athletic performance.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;thesportjournal.org&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://thesportjournal.org/article/strength-of-religious-faith-of-athletes-and-nonathletes-at-two-ncaa-division-iii-institutions/ ''Strength of Religious Faith of Athletes and Nonathletes at Two NCAA Division III Institutions'']&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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{{See also|Atheism and bodily-kinesthetic intelligence}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and intelligence ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Cerebellum.jpg|right|thumb|200px|Brain researchers have conducted a number of studies focusing on the differences between atheists and the religious. See: [[Atheism and the brain]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and intelligence]] and [[Atheism and the theory of multiple intelligences|Atheism and Gardner's theory of multiple intelligences]] and [[Causes of atheism]] &lt;br /&gt;
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Within various countries, standardized [[intelligence testing|intelligence test]] (IQ) scores related to the issue of atheists/agnostics vs. theists intelligence scores yield conflicting results.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.doxa.ws/other/smarter.html &amp;quot;Who is smarter; are atheists smarter than Christians?  An examination of studies&amp;quot;] (2007).  Doxa: Christian Thought in the 21st Century.  Retrieved on October 29, 2014.&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.randalolson.com/2014/08/24/the-myth-of-the-smarter-atheist/ The myth of the smarter Atheist] by Randy Olson, Posted on August 24, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Part of the problem is that social scientists use variant definitions of atheism.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
*Briggs, Dr. William M. (2013).  [http://www.strangenotions.com/atheists-higher-iqs/ &amp;quot;Do atheists really have higher IQs than believers?&amp;quot;]  Strange Notions.  Retrieved on October 29, 2014.&lt;br /&gt;
*Wright, Bradley (January 26, 2012).  [http://www.patheos.com/blogs/blackwhiteandgray/2012/01/how-many-americans-are-atheists-fewer-than-you-might-think/ &amp;quot;How many Americans are atheists? Fewer than you might think&amp;quot;].  Black, White and Gray.  Retrieved on October 29, 2014.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism, intelligence and the General Social Survey]]&lt;br /&gt;
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However, within individuals, families and societies irreligion/religion can have an effect on intelligence - especially over time (See: [[Atheism and intelligence]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Intelligence trends in religious countries and secular countries]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and the theory of multiple intelligences]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Study on emotional intelligence and religiosity ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and emotional/intrapersonal intelligence|Atheism and emotional intelligence]] and [[Atheism and social/interpersonal intelligence|Atheism and social intelligence]]&lt;br /&gt;
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A 2004 study by Ellen Paek examined the extent to which religious orientation/behavior and found significant positive correlations were found between level of religious commitment and an individual's perceived [[emotional intelligence]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Journal of Organizational Behavior'', Paek, Ellen (2006). &amp;quot;[http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0191886906000961 Religiosity and perceived emotional intelligence among Christians&amp;quot;. Personality and Individual Differences] (International Society for the Study of Individual Differences) 41 (3): 479–490&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and emotional/intrapersonal intelligence|Atheism and emotional intelligence]] &lt;br /&gt;
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According to the prominent brain researcher Antonio Damasio and other brain researchers, emotions play a critical role in high-level cognition and allow individuals to make better decisions.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://intentionalworkplace.com/2012/03/15/how-emotion-shapes-decision-making/ How emotion affects decision making], The Intentional Workplace&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://people.hss.caltech.edu/~steve/bechara.pdf The role of emotion in decision-making: Evidence from neurological patients with orbitofrontal damage], Antoine Becharam, Department of Neurology, University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA 52242, USA&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wup_K2WN0I When Emotions Make Better Decisions - Antonio Damasio] - short video&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://news.usc.edu/29569/Antonio-and-Hanna-Damasio-Receive-Honorary-Degrees/ News item about Professor Antonio Damasio], University of Southern California&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Brain studies of atheists ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and the brain]] and [[Religiosity and larger frontal lobes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Brain researchers have conducted a number of studies focusing on the differences between atheists and the religious (see: [[Atheism and the brain]] and [[Religiosity and larger frontal lobes]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and women  ==&lt;br /&gt;
''see also:'' [[Atheism and women]] and [[Atheism and rape]] and [[Elevatorgate]] and [[Prominent atheists whose wives believe in the existence of God]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:2404429188 ea8f1fc48b.jpg|thumbnail|right|205px|Studies indicate that women tend to be more religious than men (See: [[Atheism and women]]). ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Recent studies ===&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheist Alliance International analysis ===&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2016, Atheist Alliance International (AAI) conducted an annually recurring atheist census project and found: &amp;quot;At the time of writing, the Atheist Census Project recorded that on average worldwide 73.2% of respondents were male. The result is consistent with other research... As such, the focus of many scholarly papers has been on seeking to explain this persistent observation.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.atheistalliance.org/about-aai/position-statements/1206-aai-position-statement-gender-balance.html AAI Position Statement - Gender Balance]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Surveys by country ====&lt;br /&gt;
In November 2010, ''Discover'' magazine published survey results published by the World Values Survey which showed significant differences between the percentage of men and women who are atheists for various countries with men outnumbering women within the [[Atheist Population|atheist population]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Khan, Razib (November 18, 2010).  [http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/11/sex-differences-in-global-atheism-part-n/ &amp;quot;Gene expression; &amp;quot;Sex differences in global atheism, part N&amp;quot;].  Discover magazine website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==== United States surveys ====&lt;br /&gt;
In 2015, ''BloombergView'' reported concerning the [[United States]]: &amp;quot;According to a much-discussed 2012 report from the Pew Research Center on Religion and Public Life, ...women are 52 percent of the U.S. population but only 36 percent of atheists and agnostics.&amp;lt;ref name=agap&amp;gt;Carter, Stephen L. (March 27, 2015).  [http://www.bloombergview.com/articles/2015-03-27/the-atheism-gap &amp;quot;The atheism gap&amp;quot;].  BloombergView website.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 2009 article in LiveScience.com entitled ''Women More Religious Than Men'' reported: &amp;quot;A new analysis of survey data finds women pray more often then men, are more likely to believe in God, and are more religious than men in a variety of other ways...The latest findings, released Friday, are no surprise, only confirming what other studies have found for decades.&amp;lt;ref name=Britt&amp;gt;Britt, Robert Roy (February 28, 2009). [http://www.livescience.com/7689-women-religious-men.html &amp;quot;Women more religious than men&amp;quot;].  Livescience.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In 2007, the Pew Research Center found that American women were more religious than American men.&amp;lt;ref name=Britt/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and sexism ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and sexism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Most atheists are politically on the [[leftist|left]] (see: [[Atheism and politics]] and [[Secular left]]).  Part of leftist ideology is [[feminism]]. However, there is a significant amount of [[misogyny]] among atheists (see: [[Atheism and women]]).  &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and sexism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and rape]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sexual harassment at atheist conferences]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Elevatorgate]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Richard Dawkins and women]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism, polyamory and other immoral relationships|Atheist leaders and immoral relationships]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheist feminism ===&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Atheist feminism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and marriage/relationships ==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and marriage]] and [[Atheism and illegitimate births]] &lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and rates of marriage in the United States ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and marriageability]] and [[Atheism and women]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Christian apologist Michael Caputo wrote: &amp;quot;Recently the Pew Forum on Religion and Public Life has published its mammoth study on Religion in America based on 35,000 interviews... According to the Pew Forum a whopping 37% of atheists never marry as opposed to 19% of the American population, 17% of Protestants and 17% of Catholics.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;marry&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Theodore Beale declared that according to the 2001 American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) &amp;quot;more than half of all atheists and agnostics don’t get married.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;marry&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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For more information please see:  [[Atheism and marriageability]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheist marriages ===&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Atheist marriages]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and polyamory ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism, polyamory and other immoral relationships]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and divorce ===&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Atheism and divorce]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and interfaith marriages ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheism and interfaith marriages]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Prominent atheists whose wives believe in the existence of God]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and its inability to explain love ===&lt;br /&gt;
See also: [[Atheism and love]] and [[Atheism and forgiveness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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From a [[Metaphysics|metaphysical]], moral and spiritual perspective, atheists have an inability to satisfactorily explain the existence of [[love]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;How do atheists define love&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.strangenotions.com/atheists-love/ How do atheists define love?] by Dr. Taylor Marshall&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;atheistforum.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://atheistforum.wordpress.com/2014/07/09/what-is-love-how-materialist-atheism-fails-to-have-a-satisfactory-answer/ What is love? how materialist atheism fails to have a satisfactory answer], July 9, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
From a  moral, [[Metaphysics|metaphysical]] and spiritual perspective, atheists have an inability to satisfactorily explain the existence of [[love]].&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;How do atheists define love&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;atheistforum.wordpress.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and sexuality ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and sexuality]] and [[Atheism and romance]] and [[Atheism and fertility rates]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Research shows that religious women (especially [[evangelicalism|evangelical]]/low-church [[Protestantism|Protestant]] women) are more sexually satisfied than irreligious women.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States By Edward O. Laumann, John H. Gagnon, Robert T. Michael, Stuart Michaels, page 115&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2008/11/25/the-christian-sexual-awakening.html Why Are Christians Having Better Sex Than the Rest of Us?] by Tucker Carlson, The Daily Beast, November 11, 25, 2008&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blog.getrelationshiphelp.com/2009/07/christian-women-have-more-sexual-fun.html Christian Women Have More Sexual Fun], Relationship Center in Springfield Missouri&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A social science study also reports that Hispanic men are more sexually satisfied than other ethnic groups in the United States.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;The Social Organization of Sexuality: Sexual Practices in the United States By Edward O. Laumann, John H. Gagnon, Robert T. Michael, Stuart Michaels, page 114&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
Hispanics are known for their religiosity (See also: [[Western atheism and race]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, the atheist and agnostic populations have sub-replacement levels of fertility (see: [[Atheism and sexuality]] and [[Atheism and romance]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===  Atheists and physical attractiveness ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheists and physical attractiveness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The English anthropologist Edward Dutton indicates that using [[right-wing]] politics as a proxy for religiosity, there is evidence that atheists are less attractive and he pointed out that right-wing politicians are more likely to have symmetrical faces according to a study.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKl9H037C1k Atheism as Evidence of High Mutational Load under Conditions of Weakened Selection] by Edward Dutton&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and race ==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism, race and gender]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Asian atheism ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Asian atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[East Asia]], in particular what are often termed “Confucian societies.” It is likely therefore that the majority of the world’s atheists are actually East Asian.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gnxp/2010/11/most-atheists-are-not-white/ Most atheists are not white &amp;amp; other non-fairy tales], Discover magazine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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The current [[Atheist Population|atheist population]] mostly resides in East [[Asia]] (particularly China) and in secular Europe/Australia among whites.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2013/05/23/a-surprising-map-of-where-the-worlds-atheists-live/ A surprising map of where the world’s atheists live], By Max Fisher and Caitlin Dewey, ''Washington Post'', May 23, 2013&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Atheism and China]]&lt;br /&gt;
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As noted above, China is experiencing an explosive growth of Christianity (see: [[Growth of Christianity in China]] and [[East Asia and global desecularization]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Western atheism and race ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sikivu Hutchinson.JPG|thumbnail|200px|right|Atheist Sikivu Hutchinson says that white atheists organizations generally focus on church/state separation and [[creationism]] issues and not on the concerns the less affluent African-American population faces.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;washingtonpost.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/06/16/blacks-are-even-discriminated-against-by-atheists/ Atheism has a big race problem that no one’s talking about] by Dr. Sikivu Hutchinson, Washington Post June 16, 2014&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Hutchinson also mentioned that church organizations significantly help poor African-Americans.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;washingtonpost.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; See also: [[Atheism and charity|Atheism and uncharitableness]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Western atheism and race]] and [[Black atheism]] and [[Atheism and diversity]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Atheism and race: United States and Europe ====&lt;br /&gt;
In 2015, ''BloombergView'' reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|According to a much-discussed 2012 report from the Pew Research Center on Religion and Public Life, only 3 percent of U.S. atheists and agnostics are black, 6 percent are Hispanic, and 4 percent are Asian. Some 82 percent are white. (The relevant figures for the population at large at the time of the survey were 66 percent white, 11 percent black, 15 percent Hispanic, 5 percent Asian.)&lt;br /&gt;
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...Craig Keener, in his huge review of claims of miracles in a wide variety of cultures, concludes that routine rejection of the possibility of the [[supernatural]] represents an impulse that is [[Secular Europe|deeply Eurocentric]].&amp;lt;ref name=agap/&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In the United States, blacks have the highest rate of religiosity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/gallup-blacks-most-religious-group-us Gallup: Blacks Most Religious Group in U.S.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Among Hispanics, religion has traditionally played a significant role in daily activity.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.diocesephoenix.org/old_site/fc/CatecheticalLeadership/ChurchDocs/UnderstandingtheHispanicCulture.pdf Understanding Hispanic culture]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2011, Beliefnetnews reported concerning the race and gender of American atheists:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|From the smallest local meetings to the largest conferences, the vast majority of speakers and attendees are almost always white men. Leading figures of the atheist movement — [[Richard Dawkins]], [[Sam Harris]], [[Christopher Hitchens]] and [[Daniel Dennett]] — are all white men.&lt;br /&gt;
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But making atheism more diverse is proving to be no easy task.&lt;br /&gt;
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Surveys suggest most atheists are white men. A recent survey of 4,000 members of the [[Freedom From Religion Foundation|Freedom from Religion Foundation]] found that 95 percent were white, and men comprised a majority.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://blog.beliefnet.com/news/2011/01/atheists-diversity-woes-have-n.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and education ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Religion and education]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist indoctrination|Atheistic indoctrination and education]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and academia]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and academic performance]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Global atheism in the 21st century ==&lt;br /&gt;
=== Global decline of atheism  ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and diversity]] and [[Atheism and culture]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File: Blue Marble.jpg|200px|thumbnail|right|Atheism is in [[Global atheism|decline worldwide]], with the number of atheists falling from 4.5% of the world’s population in 1970 to 2.0% in 2010 and projected to drop to 1.8% by 2020.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;cnsnews.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/global-study-atheists-decline-only-18-world-population-2020 Global Study: Atheists in Decline, Only 1.8% of World Population by 2020]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Atheists as a percentage of the world's population have declined since 1970 and global atheism is expected to face long term decline.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.christianpost.com/news/study-world-is-turning-more-religious-atheism-declining-100518/ Study: World is becoming more religious]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/05/globally-worldviews-of-atheism-and-non.html Globally the worldviews of atheism and non-religious (agnostic) are declining while global Christianity is exploding in adherents]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.sneps.net/RD/uploads/1-Shall%20the%20Religious%20Inherit%20the%20Earth.pdf Shall the Religious Inherit the Earth?: Demography and Politics in the Twenty-First Century by Eric Kaufmann, Belfer Center, Harvard University/Birkbeck College, University of London]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.gordonconwell.edu/resources/documents/StatusOfGlobalMission.pdf Gordon-Conwell Seminary - Status of Global Mission, 2014, in the Context of AD 1800–2025]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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On July 24, 2013, ''CNS News'' reported:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Atheism is in decline worldwide, with the number of atheists falling from 4.5% of the world’s population in 1970 to 2.0% in 2010 and projected to drop to 1.8% by 2020, according to a new report by the Center for the Study of Global Christianity at Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary in South Hamilton, Mass.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;cnsnews.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/global-study-atheists-decline-only-18-world-population-2020 Global Study: Atheists in Decline, Only 1.8% of World Population by 2020]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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According to the ''[[Encyclopædia Britannica]]'', 2% of the world's population self-identifies as atheist and the average annual global change for atheism from 2000 to 2010 was −0.17%.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;eb-2010&amp;quot;&amp;gt;{{cite web|title=Religion: Year in Review 2010: Worldwide Adherents of All Religions|url=http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/1731588/Religion-Year-In-Review-2010/298437/Worldwide-Adherents-of-All-Religions|work=Encyclopædia Britannica Online|publisher=Encyclopædia Britannica Inc.|accessdate=2013-11-21}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; See: [[Global atheism statistics]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Demoographics of atheism ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Demography]] is the study of human populations, and is a major specialty in the disciplines of sociology, economics, history, geography, statistics and epidemiology.&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Demographics of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Atheism and specific countries/areas ====&lt;br /&gt;
*[[China and atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[French atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[British atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[American atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Irreligion in Australia]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Irreligion in New Zealand]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism in the Anglosphere]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism statistics ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism statistics]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christianity vs. atheism statistics]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheist movement and leadership ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheist movement]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Atheism and leadership]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Views on atheists ==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Views on atheists]] and [[Distrust of atheists]] and [[Atheism and social outcasts]] and [[Atheism and public relations]] and [[Atheophobia]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Sam Harris-2010.jpg|thumbnail|250px|right|[[Sam Harris]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Sociological research indicates that atheists are widely distrusted in both religious cultures and nonreligious cultures.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;USATodayviewsonatheists&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/religion/story/2011-12-10/religion-atheism/51777612/1 Study: Atheists distrusted as much as rapists]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;CPviewsonatheists&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.christianpost.com/news/atheists-widely-distrusted-even-among-themselves-culturally-ingrained-uk-study-finds-160480/ Atheists Widely Distrusted, Even Among Themselves, UK Study Finds], Christian Post, 2015&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Independentviewsonatheists&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/anti-atheist-distrust-deeply-and-culturally-ingrained-study-finds-a6952276.html Anti-atheist distrust ‘deeply and culturally ingrained’, study finds], ''The Independent'', 2015&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Edgell, Gerteis &amp;amp; Hartmann 2006&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  &lt;br /&gt;
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According to a study published in the ''International Journal for The Psychology of Religion'': &amp;quot;anti-atheist prejudice is not confined either to dominantly religious countries or to religious individuals, but rather appears to be a robust judgment about atheists.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Independentviewsonatheists&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; The study found that many atheists do not trust other atheists as well.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Independentviewsonatheists&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Other topics related to views on atheists ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Persecution of atheists]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheophobia]] is a fear and/or hatred of atheism/atheists.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Desecularization and its causes ==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Desecularization]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Desecularization]] is the process by which [[religion]] reasserts its societal influence though religious values, institutions, sectors of society and symbols in reaction to previous and/or co-occurring [[secularization]] processes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Religion and the State in Russia and China: Suppression, Survival and Revival'' by Christopher Marsh, 2011, page 11 (Christopher Marsh cites the definitions of desecularization given by Peter L. Berger and Vyacheslav Karpov)&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheism and sub-replacement levels of fertility ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and fertility rates]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Jacques Berlinerblau.jpg|thumbnail|250px|left|In 2011, atheist [[Jacques Berlinerblau]] declared: &amp;quot;The Golden Age of [[Secularism]] has passed.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;chronicle.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
Michael Blume, a researcher at the University of Jena in Germany, wrote about the sub-replacement level of fertility among [[Atheist Population|atheistic populations]]: &amp;quot;Most societies or communities that have espoused atheistic beliefs have not survived more than a century.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;scilogs.eu&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.scilogs.eu/en/blog/biology-of-religion/2011-01-06/atheists-a-dying-breed-as-nature-favours-faithful-sunday-times-jan-02-2011-jonathan-leake-full-draft-version Atheist: A dying breed as nature favours faithful]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Blume also indicated concerning concerning his research on this matter: &amp;quot;What I found was the complete lack of a single case of a secular population, community or movement that would just manage to retain replacement level.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;scilogs.eu&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;  See also: [[Atheism and sexuality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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On December 23, 2012, Professor [[Eric Kaufmann]] who teaches at Birbeck College, University of London wrote:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|I argue that 97% of the world's population growth is taking place in the developing world, where 95% of people are religious.&lt;br /&gt;
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On the other hand, the secular West and East Asia has very low fertility and a rapidly aging population... In the coming decades, the developed world's demand for workers to pay its pensions and work in its service sector will soar alongside the booming supply of young people in the third world. Ergo, we can expect significant immigration to the secular West which will import religious revival on the back of ethnic change. In addition, those with religious beliefs tend to have higher birth rates than the secular population, with fundamentalists having far larger families. The epicentre of these trends will be in immigration gateway cities like New York (a third white), Amsterdam (half Dutch), Los Angeles (28% white), and London, 45% white British.&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2013/04/97-of-worlds-population-growth-is.html 97% of the world's population growth is taking place in the developing world, where 95% of people are religious], Tuesday, April 30, 2013&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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At a conference Kaufmann said of religious demographic projections concerning the 21st century:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Part of the reason I think [[demography]] is very important, at least if we are going to speak about the future, is that it is the most predictable of the [[social sciences]].&lt;br /&gt;
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...if you look at a population and its age structure now. You can tell a lot about the future.  ...So by looking at the relative age structure of different populations you can already say a lot about the future...&lt;br /&gt;
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...Religious [[fundamentalism]] is going to be on the increase in the future and not just out there in the developing world..., but in the developed world as well.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7vCDeKPRSo Eric Kaufmann - Religion, Demography and Politics in the 21st Century]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Secularism is exhausted and unconfident ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Decline of the atheist movement]]&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Eric Kaufmann]], an [[agnosticism|agnostic]] professor whose academic research specialty is how demographic changes affect religion/irreligion and politics, wrote in 2010: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|Worldwide, the march of religion can probably only be reversed by a renewed, self-aware secularism. Today, it appears exhausted and lacking in confidence... Secularism's greatest triumphs owe less to science than to popular social movements like nationalism, [[socialism]] and 1960s anarchist-[[liberalism]]. Ironically, secularism's demographic deficit means that it will probably only succeed in the twenty-first century if it can create a secular form of 'religious' enthusiasm.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sneps.net/uploadsepk/JQR%20Demography.pdf Shall the religious inherit the earth? - Eric Kaufmann]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[File:Edward Tabash 2013.jpg|thumbnail|right|190px|[[Eddie Tabash]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
The American atheist activist [[Eddie Tabash]] said at the 2010 Michigan Atheists State Convention:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|In every generation there has been a promising beginning of a true vanguard movement that will finally achieve widespread public acceptance for nonbelief. Yet, in each generation there has been an ultimately disappointing failure to actually register the [[Naturalism (philosophy)|naturalistic alternative]] to supernatural claims in the public consciousness...&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iix6OjLH6aM Atheists Speak Up - Eddie Tabash]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In recent years, a number of notable atheists have expressed pessimism about the future of the [[atheist movement]] (see: [[Decline of the atheist movement]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Causes of desecularization ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Causes of desecularization]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Decline of the secular left]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Zero secularization rates in France and Protestant Europe ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[British atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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In April 2010, Eric Kaufmann declared &amp;quot;the rate of secularisation has flattened to zero in most of [[Protestantism|Protestant]] [[Europe]] and [[France]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.mercatornet.com/articles/view/shall_the_religious_inherit_the_earth/ Shall the Religious Inherit the earth] by Eric Kaufmann&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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''The Guardian'' published an article in 2017 entitled ''Nearly 50% are of [[Nones|no religion]] – but has [[UK]] hit ‘peak secular’?'' which declared:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|But, Bullivant told the Observer that the “growth of no religion may have stalled”. After consistent decline, in the past few years the proportion of [[nones]] appears to have stabilised. “Younger people tend to be more non-religious, so you’d expect it to keep going – but it hasn’t. The steady growth of non-Christian religions is a contributing factor, but I wonder if everyone who is going to give up their Anglican affiliation has done so by now? We’ve seen a vast shedding of nominal Christianity, and perhaps it’s now down to its hardcore.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/13/uk-losing-faith-religion-young-reject-parents-beliefs ''Nearly 50% are of no religion – but has UK hit ‘peak secular’?''], ''The Guardian'', 2017&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Growth of evangelical Christianity in secular regions ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Growth of Christianity in China|Growth of evangelical Christianity in China]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[East Asia and global desecularization]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Growth of evangelical Christianity#Evangelical Christianity and the developed world|Growth of evangelical Christianity in the developed world]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Collapse of atheism in the former Soviet Union]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Growth of Protestantism in Russia]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Future of desecularization via the continued global resurgence of religion ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Growth of global desecularization]] and [[Atheism vs. Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Birkbeck College, University of London.jpg|left|thumbnail|200px|[[Eric Kaufmann]] using a wealth of demographic studies, argues that there will be a significant decline of global atheism in the 21st century which will impact the [[Western World]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.sneps.net/RD/uploads/1-Shall%20the%20Religious%20Inherit%20the%20Earth.pdf Shall the Religious Inherit the Earth?: Demography and Politics in the Twenty-First Century by Eric Kaufmann, Belfer Center, Harvard University/Birkbeck College, University of London]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/2011/05/eric-kaufmann-shall-religious-inherit.html Eric Kaufmann: Shall The Religious Inherit The Earth?]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/search/label/atheist%20demographics Eric Kaufmann's Atheist Demographic series]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://fora.tv/2010/09/05/Eric_Kaufmann_Shall_the_Religious_Inherit_the_Earth Eric Kaufmann: Shall the Religious Inherit the Earth?, Australian Broadcasting Corporation]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]] &lt;br /&gt;
Eric Kaufmann using a wealth of demographic studies, argues that there will be a significant decline of global atheism in the 21st century which will impact the [[Western World]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.sneps.net/RD/uploads/1-Shall%20the%20Religious%20Inherit%20the%20Earth.pdf Shall the Religious Inherit the Earth?: Demography and Politics in the Twenty-First Century by Eric Kaufmann, Belfer Center, Harvard University/Birkbeck College, University of London]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/2011/05/eric-kaufmann-shall-religious-inherit.html Eric Kaufmann: Shall The Religious Inherit The Earth?]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://kitmantv.blogspot.com/search/label/atheist%20demographics Eric Kaufmann's Atheist Demographic series]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://fora.tv/2010/09/05/Eric_Kaufmann_Shall_the_Religious_Inherit_the_Earth Eric Kaufmann: Shall the Religious Inherit the Earth?, Australian Broadcasting Corporation]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In addition, Kaufmann argues that religious conservatism has a long term trend of rising and that their influence in the world will significantly increase.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sneps.net/RD/uploads/1-Shall%20the%20Religious%20Inherit%20the%20Earth.pdf Shall the Religious Inherit the Earth?: Demography and Politics in the Twenty-First Century by Eric Kaufmann, Belfer Center, Harvard University/Birkbeck College, University of London]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Kaufmann is author of the book ''Shall the Religious Inherit the Earth?''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books/about/Shall_the_Religious_Inherit_the_Earth.html?id=nXVylycU2gQC Shall the religious inherit the earth by David Kaufmann]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;sneps.net&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://www.sneps.net/RD/uploads/1-Shall%20the%20Religious%20Inherit%20the%20Earth.pdf Early paper - Shall the Religious Inherit the Earth?: Demography and Politics in the Twenty-First Century by Eric Kaufmann, Belfer Center, Harvard University/Birkbeck College, University of London]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the [[Western World]] due to immigration and the higher birth rates of religious people, Kaufman writes: &amp;quot;Committed religious populations are growing in the West, and will reverse the march of secularism before 2050.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;sneps.net&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Kaufmann told a secular audience in Australia: &amp;quot;The trends that are happening worldwide inevitably in an age of globalization are going to affect us.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://fora.tv/2010/09/05/Eric_Kaufmann_Shall_the_Religious_Inherit_the_Earth Shall the religious inherit the earth]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Furthermore, Kaufmann also argues that secularization may reverse itself significantly earlier than 2050 in the West due to religious immigration and a religious population which is increasingly resistant to secularization in Europe.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/08/european-christian-immigration-will.html European immigration will pour Christian creationists into Europe]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-future-of-european-darwinism-and_16.html The future of European Darwinism and atheism is bleak]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition, in the latter portion of the 20th century and continuing into the 21st century, the atheist movement has had lower confidence/morale due to various historical events/trends (see: [[Atheists and the endurance of religion]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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==== Growth of desecularization in the 21st century ====&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Growth of global desecularization]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Notable atheists who became ex-atheists ==&lt;br /&gt;
''See:'' [[Ex-atheists]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Claims about the conditionality and existence of atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheists doubting the validity of atheism]] and [[There Are No Atheists In Foxholes|There are no atheists in foxholes]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Hannah More wrote: &amp;quot;[T]he mind, which knows not where to fly, flies to God.  In agony, nature is no Atheist.  The soul is drawn to God by a sort of natural impulse; not always, perhaps by an emotion of piety; but from a feeling conviction, that every other refuge is 'a refuge of lies'.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;More, Hannah (1815).  [http://archive.org/details/anessayoncharac00moregoog ''An Essay on the Character and Practical Writings of St. Paul''], 5th ed., vol. 2 (London:  T. Cadell and W. Davies), p. 234.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== There are no atheists in foxholes ===&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[There Are No Atheists In Foxholes|There are no atheists in foxholes]] and [[Atheists doubting the validity of atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Foxhole.jpg|thumb|left|250px|Reverend William T. Cummings is famous for declaring ''[[There Are No Atheists In Foxholes|There are no atheists in foxholes]]''.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Multiple references:&lt;br /&gt;
* Taylor-Blake, Bonnie (September 24, 2006). [http://web.archive.org/web/20080617035633/http://listserv.linguistlist.org/cgi-bin/wa?A2=ind0609D&amp;amp;L=ads-l&amp;amp;P=15696 &amp;quot;'There are no atheists in [the&amp;amp;#93; foxholes'&amp;quot;]. Message posted to The American Dialect Society [Electronic] Mailing List, archived at ListServ 16.0. Archive at Internet Archive.&lt;br /&gt;
*Osborn, Neale (December 15, 2012).  [http://nealebooks.newsvine.com/_news/2012/12/15/15931810-there-are-no-atheists-in-foxholes &amp;quot;There are no atheists in foxholes...&amp;quot;]. Newsvine website/Neal Osborn.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]&lt;br /&gt;
Reverend William T. Cummings is famous for declaring &amp;quot;[[There Are No Atheists In Foxholes|There are no atheists in foxholes]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://content.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,792459,00.html &amp;quot;Milestones [excerpt&amp;amp;#93;&amp;quot;] (October 15, 1945).  ''Time''.  magazine website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Chaplain F. W. Lawson of the 302d Machine Gun Battalion, who was wounded twice in wartime, stated &amp;quot;I doubt if there is such a thing as an atheist.  At least there isn't in a front line trench.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=9905EFD91239E13ABC4D51DFB7678383609EDE &amp;quot;Tells of religion in army.  Chaplain Lawson says there are no atheists in front line&amp;quot;] (November 25, 1918).  ''New York Times'', p. 13.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; On the other hand, the news organization NBC featured a story in which atheist veterans claimed that there are atheists in foxholes.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Breen, Tom (April 2, 2011).[http://www.nbcnews.com/id/42391558/ns/us_news-military/t/army-group-coming-out-atheist-closet/#.UbgMndihjSg &amp;quot;Army group 'coming out of the atheist closet'&amp;quot;] from NBCNews.com&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Research indicates that heavy combat has a positive correlation to the strength of the religious faith in soldiers during the battles and subsequent to the war if they indicated their experience was a negative experience (for more information please see: [[There Are No Atheists In Foxholes|There are no atheists in foxholes]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, due to research showing that death anxiety increases atheists' unconscious belief in God, Dr. Nathan Heflick declared in a ''Psychology Today'' article, &amp;quot;But, at a less conscious (or pre-conscious) level, this research suggests that there might be less atheism in foxholes than atheists in foxholes report.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Heflick&amp;quot;/&amp;gt; Please see: [[Atheism and death]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Denials that atheists exist ===&lt;br /&gt;
* [[Denials that atheists exist]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Causes of atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
:''See main article: [[Causes of atheism]]'' and [[Atheism and hedonism]] and [[Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian]]&lt;br /&gt;
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There are a number of psychological, societal, familial, economic and spiritual factors which cause atheism which have been proposed over the centuries.  Please see: [[Causes of atheism]] and [[Atheism and hedonism]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Christian websites and other resources with a large focus on the topic of atheism  ==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:TFT.JPG|thumb|right|200px|[[True Freethinker]] is a Christian apologetics website run by Ken Ammi which offers many [[Rebuttals to atheist arguments|refutations of atheism]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism vs. Christianity]] and [[Internet atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Five of the more notable Christian apologetics websites/blogs which have a large focus on the topic of atheism are: the [[Shadow To Light blog]], the [[True Freethinker]] website, the [[Creation Ministries International and atheism|Creation Ministries International resources on atheism]] and the [[Fixed Point Foundation]] website.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Freedom from Atheism Foundation (FFAF) ===&lt;br /&gt;
In 2012, the [[Freedom From Atheism Foundation]] (FFAF) was formed as an online interfaith civil rights group to provide support for victims of militant atheism, protect the rights of religious believers, and address the increasing amount of atheist intolerance around the world.  The groups' many admins are all anonymous due to the large amount of hate mail, threats, and stalking the site receives from militant atheists.  &lt;br /&gt;
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As of October 2017 the group has [https://www.facebook.com/FFAF.International over 750,000 followers] and makes an average of 80 posts a week.  Along with tens of thousands of religious supporters, the group also found support from atheist author and biologist PZ Myers.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2014/05/09/i-support-the-freedom-from-atheism-foundation/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  A May 2014 article in the ''Christian Post'' titled &amp;quot;Freedom From Religion? How About Freedom From Atheism?&amp;quot; profiled the Freedom From Atheism Foundation in greater detail.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christianpost.com/news/freedom-from-religion-how-about-freedom-from-atheism-119389/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Online videos related to atheism  ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism videos]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Creation vs. Evolution Videos]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Militant atheism YouTube channel]] has a collection of videos on militant atheism.&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and the media ==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and the media]] and  [[Atheism and public relations]] and [[Atheism news]]&lt;br /&gt;
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The Media Research Center released a study in 2008 reporting pro-atheism bias by major press outlets in the [[United States]].&amp;lt;ref name=mrc&amp;gt;[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTxORumTarg &amp;quot;Smoking gun proof that there is an atheist media bias&amp;quot;] (July 17, 2008).  YouTube video, 2:56, posted by Atheism Sucks!&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;   The study found that 80% of mainstream media coverage of atheism was positive and that 71% of Christian-themed stories had an atheist counterpoint or were written from an atheist perspective.&amp;lt;ref name=mrc/&amp;gt;  The study is not surprising given the liberal bias [[Liberal bias|that commonly exists in the major media outlets]].&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and the media#Post 2010 drop in volume of atheism news stories|Drop in news stories about atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and the media#Post 2010 the percentage of negative news stories about atheism has increased|Negative news stories about atheism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and culture: Art, architecture, music, poetry, dance and humor ==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also:'' [[Atheism and culture]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheism has not produced any outstanding cultural achievements and it has had a negative effect on cultures (see: [[Atheism and culture]]). &lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheist art]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and architecture]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist music]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist poetry]] &lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and dance]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and humor]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism and homosexuality ==&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheist actions against homosexuals]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and homosexuality]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Other well-known proponents of atheism ==&lt;br /&gt;
''See:'' [[Famous atheists]] and [[Famous agnostics]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:nietzsche2.jpg|right|200px|thumb|[[Friedrich Nietzsche]] ]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Diagoras of Melos]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Friedrich Nietzsche]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[A. J. Ayer]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ludwig Feuerbach]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Friedrich Engels]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Sigmund Freud]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Adolf Hitler]]&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Today's atheists&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Albert Camus]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Ayn Rand]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Madalyn Murray O'Hair]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Paul Kurtz]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[John Gray (philosopher)|John Gray]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Well-known proponents of skepticism/atheism/agnosticism ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[David Hume]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Bertrand Russell]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheist organizations ==&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Atheist organizations]]&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Atheist organizations and fundraising ===&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheist organizations and fundraising]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==Atheism quotes==&lt;br /&gt;
''See articles: [[Atheism Quotes]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Atheism news ==&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Atheism news]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Recommended reading ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christian apologetics books on atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Resources for leaving atheism and becoming a Christian]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/good-news Some good news]&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism symbols]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay: Atheism and evolution essays]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism and satanic deception]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Second generation atheist]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Conservapedia:Atheism Project|Conservapedia Atheism Project]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
''see also:'' [[Atheism website resources]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''General articles on atheism:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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*[http://creation.com/atheism Atheism] by [[Creation Ministries International]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/horrific-human-toll-of-militant-atheism-exposed/ Horrific Human Toll of 'Militant Atheism' Exposed: USSR's genocide against Christians largely ignored - World Net Daily]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://creation.com/atheism-agnosticism-and-humanism-godless-religions-questions-and-answers Atheism, agnosticism and humanism: godless religions] by [[Creation Ministries International]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[https://www.bethinking.org/tag/atheism/page/all Atheism articles - Bethinking.org]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.truefreethinker.com/atheism True Free Thinker - atheism section]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.carm.org/atheism.htm Atheism] by [[Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.wnd.com/2017/04/former-atheists-case-for-christ-hits-big-screen/ Former Ateist's 'Case For Christ Hits Big Screen], 2017&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Prominent atheists:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism and leadership]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.thebestschools.org/blog/2011/12/01/50-top-atheists-in-the-world-today/ 50 most prominent atheists in the world today]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Other articles on atheism:'''&lt;br /&gt;
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*[[Atheism articles|Atheism articles on various topical areas - External websites]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Conservapedia atheism articles]]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Newton.png|thumb|200px|alt=Isaac Newton, cornerstone of the scientific revolution, based his research on the scientific authority of the [[Bible]].|thumb|[[Portrait]] of [[Isaac Newton]], cornerstone of the [[scientific revolution]], based his research on the scientific authority of the Bible.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' is how the [[Bible]] shows a comprehension of [[science]] far ahead of its time. The Bible is a superb roadmap to future scientific discoveries. Unfortunately [[Bible denier]]s, including many [[Atheism|atheist]]s and [[evolution]]ists, refuse to read the Bible, and '''''their irrational [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|closed-mindedness]] against the Bible obstructs the advancement of science'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Book of Genesis]] gives [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge#Anesthesia|an example of anesthesia]] long before man discovered it in 1846.  And the underlying chaos and [[uncertainty]] in the physical world was explained in the Bible long before [[quantum mechanics]] confirmed it in the 1900s.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' has an additional benefit: it guides a more precise translation of verses that describe scientific-related events, such as the reference to the universe in [[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10]], and the changing of [[Essay:Water into Wine|water into wine]] at the wedding feast.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Geology==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Massive flooding===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheist scientists long opposed a [[young earth]] [[creation|created]] by [[God]] where cataclysmic flooding, such as the [[Great Flood]] described in the Bible, shaped the landscape. However, ample [[counterexamples to an old earth]] exist and the discovery in the Northwest of &amp;quot;giant ripple marks, 50 feet high and 200-500 feet apart&amp;quot; proved that a cataclysmic flood in the region had indeed occurred thousands of years ago. As a result, &amp;quot;[a]mong geologists, the concept of a catastrophic flood came to be universally accepted by the late 1950s.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iafi.org/floods.html The Ice Age Flood Institute reports on the massive floods in the Northwest.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continental drift===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Continental drift]] was  proposed by [[creationist]] Antonio Snider-Pellegrini in 1859 based on [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis 1:9-10]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c001.html Christian Answers explains Antonio Snider's divine inspiration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which states, {{cquote|And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.&lt;br /&gt;
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.}} Because land is no longer all in [[Pangaea|one place]], this implies that the continents have shifted over the six millennia to their current positions. [[Atheists]] and [[scientist]]s who hadn't seen the light of [[creationism]] were in [[liberal denial]] about this concept for a century, until finally accepting its truth. This is just more data that the Bible knew millennia before [[secular]] [[science]] caught up.&lt;br /&gt;
However, The Continents are still connected; under the ocean is land if you dry up the water. This interpretation of this verse is in error, the separation spoken of here is the waters under the sky (Firmament) and the water out in space (beyond the heavens). Comets prove this theory, as many of them contain ice, and today as much as 1% of terrestrial rain comes from extraterrestrial sources.{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}&lt;br /&gt;
The most likely reason for the current position and shape of the land mass is the Flood of Noah. Pangea does not work without flipping, shrinking, and sometimes removing countries entirely. Any Biblical statements of continents is in Genesis 10:25 when Peleg is mentioned &amp;quot;for in his days was the earth divided&amp;quot; this in particular refers to the separation of what today is Russia, Japan, and Alaska, when the oceans arose, and also to the division of the peoples by languages, who migrated together according to their language after the confusing of tongues at the tower of Babel, obviously the migration took place before the oceanic divide which led to the natives of the Far West. Everyone laughed at Columbus, not because they thought earth was flat, but because they had forgotten the Far West (America) was there, and they thought he didn't have nearly enough supplies or a big enough ship to go to Asia the long way around, and they would have been right if he didn't hit the Caribbean first by complete accident. Recent findings of biblical stone tablets, in Byzantine script prove that trade between Europe and the Far West was common prior to the dark age which began in 400 or 500 AD.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Underwater springs===&lt;br /&gt;
Only in modern times have scientists become aware of the enormous underwater springs feeding into the oceans, and the very deep valleys at the bottom of the oceans. However, the Bible repeatedly described this thousands of years earlier in [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 7|Genesis 7:11]], which states, {{cquote|In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.}} Again, in 2 Samuel 22:16, the Bible states that, {{cquote|And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.}}&lt;br /&gt;
And Job 38:16 “Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? Or hast thou walked in the search of the depths?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is ''obvious'' proof to all but [[liberals]] that the Bible had foreknowledge of subcrustal oceans, something the ancient Jews could not have possibly known, and thus proof of the Bible's God-given accuracy and divine nature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Agriculture==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Malthusianism===&lt;br /&gt;
Since Thomas [[Robert Malthus|Malthus's]] 1798 work, ''An Essay on the Principle of Population'', [[liberal]] [[intellectual]]s insisted that the world's population would grow faster than the [[food]] supply and result in mass starvation. However, there are examples in both the [[Old Testament|Old]]{{citation needed|date=September 2015}} and [[New Testament]]s{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}, as well as the example of [[William Bradford]] at Plymouth Colony,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book|last1=Bradford|first1=William|title=The History of Plimoth Plantation|date=1669|pages=135–136}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of the food supply increasing to be more far plentiful than expected, mostly due to faith in [[God|God's]] powers and use of [[conservative]] [[economics]]. Indeed, in modern times [[obesity]] is far more prevalent and harmful than [[hunger]] worldwide, and food production far exceeds the ability to consume even in impoverished nations. Hunger remains a problem only in places with [[liberal]] and/or [[leftist]] political systems that impede food distribution or destroy the [[free market]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Psychogenic hematidrosis ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Psychogenic hematidrosis, which is sweat turning into blood, happens rarely but in the cases it does happen, it usually happens with death row inmates.  In 70 percent of all studies that document this condition, the condition occurs in death row inmates.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjXMsq6SscA Police Detective Examines the Resurrection of Jesus becomes Christian]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus sweat blood (Luke 22:44). The early church was puzzled by the account of Jesus sweating blood given in Scripture and they didn't know what to make of it.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Pleural effusion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The early church was puzzled by the blood and water that came out of Jesus' side when the soldier plunged his spear into him. The blood was not a problem in their understanding, but the water was. Medical science can now explain the water coming out of Jesus' side as being the result of pleural effusion.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Flood ice mummy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The building of the ark.jpg|thumb|The building of the Ark by Bertram of Minden, ancient [[German Painting]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
According to the Bible, a [[Great Flood]] occurred around 3300 B.C., or about 5300 years ago. It involved a cataclysmic rainstorm of a magnitude never seen before or since. For centuries [[atheist]]s and [[liberals]] have mocked it, claiming that it was impossible. However, in 1991, an &amp;quot;ice mummy&amp;quot; was discovered in the [[Alps]]. Scientists located a remarkably preserved ancient body, including even the contents of his last meal, which was due to an extraordinary ice storm. By radiometric [[carbon dating]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nupecc.org/iai2001/report/B44.pdf Radiocarbon dating of the Iceman Ötzi with&lt;br /&gt;
accelerator mass spectrometry&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the scientists discovered that this massive ice storm occurred 5300 years ago, which perfectly matches the Biblical Great Flood.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/icemummies/iceman.html PBS on the &amp;quot;Iceman&amp;quot; in the Alps&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is obvious proof of the Great Flood, as no natural occurrence could possibly explain how somebody came to be preserved by ice in the [[Alps]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest Living Organism===&lt;br /&gt;
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Bristlecone pine trees in California's White Mountains are the oldest living unitary organism.  As predicted by the Bible, they are not as old as 6,000 years but are as old as 5,000 years,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/worlds-oldest-living-things-23385913/image-23386256&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; roughly the time of the [[Great Flood]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===False theories===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus' recognition that the truth would remain hidden from arrogant &amp;quot;intellectuals&amp;quot; while simultaneously revealed to humbler, [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|more openminded]] people. This foreshadowed the creation of theories to pull self-centered intellectual wannabees away from [[God]], such as the [[Theory of Evolution]], the [[Theory of Relativity]], the [[homosexual agenda]], the [[secular]] culture of [[abortion]], [[Communism]], and countless other [[liberal]] and atheistic ideas and ideologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Mankind remains extant===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible predicts that the end of [[mankind]] will not occur by chance, but rather at a time known only to God. Despite the extinction of many species each year throughout history, the expectation by scientists that Earth would have been hit by chance by a massive, extinction-causing meteor, and laws of probability that predict other immense catastrophes, mankind continues and Christianity grows just as Jesus predicted.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Construction of ancient sky-high structures===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible—the [[Book of Genesis]] chapter 11—explains how ancient people arrogantly sought to construct a sky-high &amp;quot;[[Tower of Babel]]&amp;quot; to try to reach [[Heaven]].  Then, in the 1900s, archaeologists discovered the great ziggurat of ancient Ur, located in present-day southern Iraq, having characteristics similar to the biblical description of the Tower of Babel.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bible-history.com/babylonia/BabyloniaThe_Ziggurat.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hometown of Goliath===&lt;br /&gt;
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1 Samuel 17 of the Bible discusses the giant Goliath from a Philistine city named Gath, located in central Israel. In July 2015, archaeologists discovered its entrance in an excavation that began in 1899.  They also uncovered evidence of a massive earthquake that occurred in the eighth century BC, as described in the biblical book of Amos.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiantoday.com/article/gates.to.goliaths.city.discovered/61124.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Effect of Deafness on Speech===&lt;br /&gt;
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For 2000 years after [[Christ]], scientists overlooked the close connection between hearing and speech, and the brain, and are just starting to discover this now.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zdnet.com/article/deafness-can-have-unexpected-consequences-on-speech-patterns/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  But [[Jesus]] illustrated the connection when he cured a problem with speech primarily by opening someone's ears, after which the man &amp;quot;spoke plainly.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mark 7:34-35 ([[ESV]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Common DNA===&lt;br /&gt;
[[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 1|John 1:3]] explains that &amp;quot;All things were made by Him; not one thing was made without Him.&amp;quot;  If something had been made without Him then creatures would exist that had completely different DNA from other creatures.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Psychiatry===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jesus Christ]] and [[Christianity|Christendom]] have emphasized the important of forgiveness and in the last few decades mental health specialists have increasingly seen the importance of forgiveness to alleviate anger/depression/bitterness and other emotional problems within individuals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2755173/ Indian J Psychiatry. 2009 Apr-Jun; 51(2): 153–156. doi:  10.4103/0019-5545.49459, PMCID: PMC2755173, ''Forgiveness: A note for psychiatrists'' by Prakash Gangdev]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Modern medicine now realizes that obsessing with one's past is a big cause of psychiatric problems.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-flux/201104/5-ways-find-closure-the-past&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Jesus had the same insight 2000 years earlier: &amp;quot;No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the [[kingdom of God]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luke 9:62 ([[ESV]]).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Bible and health practices ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[The Bible and health]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Max Neuberger, writing in his &amp;quot;History of Medicine&amp;quot; states concerning the Mosaic laws: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The commands concern prophylaxis and suppression of epidemics, suppression of venereal disease and prostitution, care of the skin, baths,[17] food, housing and clothing, regulation of labour, sexual life, discipline of the people, etc. Many of these commands, such as Sabbath rest, circumcision, laws concerning food (interdiction of blood and pork), measures concerning menstruating and lying-in women, and those suffering from gonorrhoea, isolation of lepers, and hygiene of the camp, are, in view of the conditions of the climate, surprisingly rational.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Blood clotting on the eighth day===&lt;br /&gt;
In Genesis 17:12, God mandated that Abraham circumcise his sons on the 8th day after birth.  In 1935, it was discovered that Vitamin K, together with prothrombin, causes blood coagulation, (important in any surgical procedure).  On the 8th day, the amount of prothrombin present is elevated above 100% of normal and is therefore the only day in the male’s life in which this will be the case (normally). If surgery is to be performed, day 8 is the perfect day to do it as vitamin K and prothrombin levels are at their peak.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Lifespan===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible puts the maximum lifespan for man at 120 years (Genesis 6:3), the typical lifespan at 70 years and the typical for a good-living person at 80 years (Psalm 90:10).&lt;br /&gt;
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Thousands of years after that was written, despite immense advances in medicine and technology, these figures remain remarkably accurate.  The longest modern recorded life of a man is precisely 120 years (Shigechiyo Izumi), the average lifespan for a man is roughly 70 years, and the average for a good-living man is about 80 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jeanne Calment]] lived to age 122, only two years past 120. She was said to have never worked and used olive oil on her skin, outliving all of her [[feminist]] counterparts.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest human ancestor===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible suggests that the oldest maternal ancestor &amp;amp;#8212; [[Eve]] &amp;amp;#8212; first lived slightly more than 6000 years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The mutation rate of [[mitochondria]] indicates roughly the same date for the most recent common human ancestor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creationwiki.org/Mitochondrial_Eve_lived_only_6500_years_ago_%28Talk.Origins%29&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Anesthesia===&lt;br /&gt;
The first surgical operation described in the Bible was the removal of a rib from [[Adam]], which was performed by first putting Adam into an unconscious,  &amp;quot;deep sleep-like trance.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 2:21]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This was the equivalent of anesthesia &amp;amp;#8212; thousands of years before anesthesia using inhaled ether was developed by William Morton in 1846.  Had scientists and physicians been more [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|openminded]] about Genesis 2:21 (perhaps they had considered it a miracle, and thus impossible for humans to achieve), they may have discovered anesthesia far sooner, and saved many more lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bloodletting hastens death===&lt;br /&gt;
At the time of Jesus and for centuries afterward, arteries and veins were thought to be filled with air, and blood was viewed as something to be used up rather than recirculate.  Bloodletting—the practice of intentionally draining blood from a patient—was common medical practice through the time of [[George Washington]], hastening his death prematurely for reasons not understood until years later.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/37212.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Most victims of crucifixion in Roman times languished on the cross for days. But the Bible describes how Pilate, who crucified many, was surprised at how quickly Jesus passed away. 2000 years later, scientific knowledge has advanced to understand that this was caused by his prior loss of blood during his scourging (being brutally whipped), a punishment typically given ''instead of'' crucifixion.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Homosexuality and disease===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible's prohibition against [[homosexuality]] predated knowledge about the [[Homosexuality and Health|many diseases and disorders associated with homosexuality]], and thus showed scientific wisdom prescient for its time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eyesight===&lt;br /&gt;
The description in the [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Gospel of Mark 8:24]] for the sensation when one's eyesight is restored includes his perception of &amp;quot;trees walking.&amp;quot; This perception was first confirmed nearly 2000 years later as physicians developed medical techniques for restoring eyesight.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This newspaper account is not specific but describes the overall sensation of restored sight: [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-138886/Robot-eye-restore-lost-sight-20-years.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Maximum human height===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheists thought the size of [[Goliath]] in the Bible to be absurdly large (over nine feet tall), until [[Robert Wadlow]] grew to nearly 9 feet tall and was still growing when he died at a young age in 1940.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Leprosy===&lt;br /&gt;
Although leprosy is not as contagious as other infectious diseases, and some forms of it (such as tuberculoid or paucibacillary form are not contagious), Leviticus 13 and 14 set forth rules to prevent epidemics of this disease among the people of Israel.  Western science did not catch up until, in 1663, such laws were introduced in America in an attempt to curb an outbreak of smallpox.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hygiene===&lt;br /&gt;
Millennia before germ theory was proposed in the late 19th century, Leviticus 15 mandated hygiene laws that included bathing, washing of clothing, destruction of contaminated pottery and washing of hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 15:2, Jesus then curbed compulsive hand-washing by explaining why it was no longer typically necessary (in a non-farming, non-medical context) with respect to man's digestive system.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Digestive system===&lt;br /&gt;
It was common thought throughout history that infections and illness resulted from the digestive system, based on unclean hands or food.  Jesus rejected that view, and declared hand-washing before meals to be typically unnecessary.  It took many centuries before science caught up to the Bible on this.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is part of the Jewish kosher law to not eat milk with meat. In some Jewish homes they have separate refrigerators for meat and milk products. It comes from Deuteronomy 14:21 &amp;quot;...Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.&amp;quot; There is evidence that the body has difficulty digesting both meat and milk at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, as part of the Jewish kosher law a pork is on the list of prohibited foods. Under cooked pork can transmit Trichinosis, a parasitic disease that can infect muscle tissue, the brain, and the central nervous system, among other [[parasite]]s and zoonotic diseases.  [[Creation denial|Creation deniers]] can counter this point only with such desperate non-arguments as asking why God had to create trichinae at all and then allow them onto the [[Ark]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fetal Alcohol Syndrome====&lt;br /&gt;
Not discovered until 1973 by American physicians, fetal alcohol syndrome results from harm done to the unborn child in pregnancy due to the mother drinking alcohol.  The Bible, thousands of years earlier, forbade the mother of [[Samson]] from drinking alcohol while pregnant, so that he could become a powerful leader:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;3&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;The angel of the Lord appeared to her and said, “You are barren and childless, but you are going to become pregnant and give birth to a son. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;'''''Now see to it that you drink no wine or other fermented drink''''' and that you do not eat anything unclean. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, dedicated to God from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Judges 13:3-5 (NIV).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Animal Toxicity====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:David Macht.jpg|thumbnail|right||200px|Dr. David Macht]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 1953 Dr. [http://www.creationwiki.org/David_Macht David Macht], a Johns Hopkins researcher, conducted toxicity tests on many different kinds of animals and fish and concluded that the toxicity of Levitically [[Mosaic law and unclean animals|&amp;quot;unclean&amp;quot; animals]] was higher than that of the [[Mosaic law and clean animals|&amp;quot;clean&amp;quot; animals]], and that the correlation with the description in Leviticus was 100%.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht1&amp;gt;Macht, David I., MD. &amp;quot;[http://members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/Macht1953.pdf An Experimental Pharmacological Appreciation of Levitcus XI and Deuteronomy XIV].&amp;quot; ''Bulletin of the History of Medicine'' 27(5):444-450, September–October, 1953. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Macht's study in terms of classifying kosher and non-kosher animals matched the kosher classification performed by James W. Atz, Ph.D., Curator and Dean Bibliographer in the Department of Ichthyology of the American Museum of Natural History, NY, NY and Adjunct Professor of Biology, Graduate School of Arts and Science on New York University. Dr. Atz's list of kosher and non-kosher animals was published by the Orthodox Union in Kosher Guide and in the Orthodox Union Kosher Consumer Directory.&amp;lt;ref name=Atz&amp;gt;Atz, James W., contrib. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fish/ KASHRUT.COM - Kosher and Non-kosher fish]&amp;quot; Scharf Associates, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to a list of kosher and non-kosher fish published by the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, deciding what fish have scales, in the Orthodox Jewish community, appears to involve semantics as scales which are not visible to the human eye or scales that cannot be removed without tearing the skin are not considered &amp;quot;scales&amp;quot; in terms of the Torah law for determining which fish are kosher. It appears that Jewish religious authorities do appeal to well known Torah commentators.&amp;lt;ref name=Goldberg&amp;gt;Goldberg, Chaim. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fishfaq/ Consumers’ FAQ’s on Kosher fish].&amp;quot; Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, 2004. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Also, Dr. Macht's classification of swans as kosher is in accordance with the research done at Ohr Somayach Institutions in Jerusalem, Israel.&amp;lt;ref name=ask1&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://ohr.edu/ask/ask210.htm Ask the Rabbi - Are swans kosher]?&amp;quot; Ohr Somayach Website, Ohr.edu, October 24, 1998. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, Dr. Macht states in the peer reviewed journal ''Science'' that the toxicology test he used was a reliable method for detecting zoological toxins as it was a toxicology test sensitive to these type of toxins, and therefore one could conclude it was also suitable for testing the toxicity levels of fish, meat, and poultry.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht3&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. , Science 1930, 71 :302&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (The toxicological method that Dr. Macht used was also cited in the Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht2&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. and Macht, M.B. ''Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine'' 1941, 26: 597&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) In addition, Dr. Macht was an expert in cobra venom, which is a zoological toxin. Macht's conclusions, however, were challenged by three of his science community peers in a Seventh Day Adventist publication although one partially affirmed his study.&amp;lt;ref name=Harris&amp;gt;Harris, Lester E., Jr. &amp;quot;[https://archive.is/20070709234205/members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/web/ministry-1954-March-p37.htm This Question of Unclean Meats].&amp;quot; Ministry Magazine, March 1953, p37-38. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This was partly due to a likely unfamiliarity with what food is kosher and non-kosher. Also, perhaps they were unfamiliar with the toxicity test Dr. Macht used, and its apparent effectiveness in testing zoological toxins.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the short term, eating non-kosher food often appears to have no dramatic ill effects in general. For example, the Arabs, who do not eat kosher, consider camel to be a delicacy. Clearly, non-kosher Arabs do not fall dead right after eating camel meat. However, the long term optimality of eating clean versus unclean meat is an unanswered question of science. Also, eating non-kosher foods clearly has some nutritional benefit. For example, shrimp and pork contain protein. The New Testament declares, {{Bible quote|For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5|version=NKJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In regard to the aforementioned verse, it could be argued that prayer does sanctify food. The Bible has plenty of verses regarding God's protection. Also, it could be argued that the benefits outweigh the costs in all foods and thus all food is good. Clearly there is  some nutritional goodness in foods that the Torah declared unclean (for example, shrimp has protein).  What foods are optimal from an empirically tested science viewpoint is often controversial. In short, in regard to eating strictly a kosher diet versus a non-kosher diet, science has no definitive answers at the present time. From a Christian theological point of view, it could be argued that food should not be an impediment to anyone making a decision to become a Christian. It should be noted that orthodox Christian believers in Biblical scientific foreknowledge believe that Christians can eat the food that was declared unclean in the Old Testament, and {{Bible ref|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5}} and {{Bible ref|book=Galations|chap=2|verses=7-16}} make this very clear.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to the aforementioned study testing kosher and non-kosher foods for toxicity levels, Macht developed evidence indicating that combining meat and milk tended to be more toxic than either foodstuff alone.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4&amp;gt;David I. Macht, Medical Leaves 1940; 3:174-184&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In addition, he compared conventional animal slaughtering versus kosher slaughtering and determined that kosher slaughtering produced less toxic meat.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 1985 study by Nanji and French found that there was a significant correlation between cirrhosis and pork consumption (Macht claimed that swine was more toxic than the animal meat the Bible called clean).&amp;lt;ref name=Nanji&amp;gt;Nanji AA, and French SW. &amp;quot;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&amp;amp;db=PubMed&amp;amp;list_uids=2858627&amp;amp;dopt=Abstract Relationship between pork consumption and cirrhosis].&amp;quot; ''Lancet'' 1985 Mar 23, 1(8430):681-3. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Modern pork production methods are different from ancient methods of raising pigs, so the result of this study might be hard to apply to the ancients or those who raise pigs by organic farming methods, without the use of hormones or antibiotics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jane Cahill reported in ''Biblical Archaeological Review'' that the toilets of a Jewish household in [[Jerusalem]] were examined and no [[parasite]]s or infectious agents were found.&amp;lt;ref name=Cahill&amp;gt;[http://cojs.org/cojswiki/It_Had_to_Happen,_Jane_M._Cahill,_Karl_Reinhard,_David_Tarler_and_Peter_Warnock,_BAR_17:03,_May/Jun_1991. It had to happen, Scientist Examines Ancient Bathrooms of Romans 586 B.C.] by Jane Cahill and Peter Warnock. BAR May/June 1991&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Today, some &amp;quot;alternative medicine&amp;quot; practitioners do not recommend pork to their patients. Their reasons include the possible content of hormones, antibiotics, and pesticides, and also the undiscriminating diet of the pig. Joseph Mercola, DO, who has a private practice in alternative general medicine, writes:{{cquote|Pigs are scavenger animals and will eat just about anything. Their appetite for less-than-wholesome foods makes pigs a breeding ground for potentially dangerous infections. Even cooking pork for long periods is not enough to kill many of the retroviruses and other parasites that many of them harbor.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola&amp;gt;Mercola, Joseph, DO, ed. &amp;quot;[http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/07/12/are-there-deadly-superbugs-in-your-pork.aspx?source=nl Are There Deadly Superbugs In Your Pork]?&amp;quot; &amp;lt;http://www.mercola.com/&amp;gt;, July 12, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Mercola does not even recommend pasture-raised pork, because wild boars will often infect herds of pork with [[Trichinella spiralis]] or other parasites.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Feasibility of abiogenesis===&lt;br /&gt;
Although scientists dismissed ideas involving [[abiogenesis]], or the process from which life emerges from non-living material, as nothing more than archaic beliefs in [[spontaneous generation]], the Bible very clearly depicts an occurrence of this phenomenon, for beginning in Genesis 1:20, God creates life from nothing. It was not until the early 20th century that science finally began to accept the viability of abiogenesis, a view that the Bible had held for almost 2000 years, except that [[atheists]] falsely claim that abiogenesis is somehow possible without a creator. For addition information, please see [http://creation.com/origin-of-life origin of life]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Awareness while unborn===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Abortion]] advocates argue that it is ok to terminate a baby while dismissing the pain inflicted by ending an innocent life. They argue that a fetus cannot feel pain because senses are incomplete. There is a heart-beating human in the womb that can feel even though still unborn and developing. In modern times, we now know the baby in the womb is alert, aware of their mother's emotions, recognizes voices, responds to stimuli and music. The Bible tells us the baby feels (1 Luke 44), ''&amp;quot;the babe leaps for joy in Elizabeth’s womb at the sound of Mary’s voice.&amp;quot;'' The inwomb developing baby, John the Baptist, notices the presence of the unborn [[Lord]] in [[Mary]], and is excited. In addition (St. Paul to the Galatians 1:15), ''&amp;quot;God… from my mother’s womb had set me apart and called me through his grace.&amp;quot;'' Paul's very first thought, feeling awareness, began while unborn.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Embalming===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mark 9-16 (Translated)#Chapter 14|Mark 14:3-8]] describes an embalming process to preserve a body after death, which was not discovered in the West until 1867.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Significance of blood===&lt;br /&gt;
The Old Testament teaches that the [[life]] of all flesh is its [[blood]] ({{Bible ref|book=Leviticus|chap=17|verses=13-14|version=KJV}}).  Secular science remained ignorant of the properties and circulation of blood until the 17th century A.D.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12_notes.htm Net Bible: Notes] to [http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12.htm#1234 Deuteronomy 12:23] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Menstruation===&lt;br /&gt;
The Biblical laws concerning [[menstruation]], including the setting apart of the menstruating woman and the prohibition on intimacy during menstruation, address health concerns that were not known to secular science until the 20th century.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Also, modern science has only very recently discovered that following such rules dramatically reduces the rate of illegitimacy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120604182027.htm How Religion Promotes Confidence About Paternity]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cloning===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bible ref|book=Genesis|chap=2|verses=21-22|version=KJV}} records that God made a [[woman]] out of one of [[Adam]]'s [[rib]]s.  Secular scientists did not believe that [[cloning]] such a complex organism (apart from plants) was possible until 1997.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml Cloning Fact Sheet] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It should be noted, however, that this is not strictly 'cloning' as a clone would be identical to its original, most obviously in terms of its sex.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Common X Chromosome===&lt;br /&gt;
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Women have the same X chromosome as men, but this was not discovered until the late 1800s.  The Book of Genesis explained this thousands years earlier, describing how the first woman was created directly from man.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inbreeding===&lt;br /&gt;
Leviticus 18:7-11 elaborates in detail the relationships it regards as incestuous unions, to forbid inbreeding. While the effects of inbreeding were apparent to ancient observers, geneticists were able to scientifically explain the mechanisms and risks of inbreeding only in modern times.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Distance of Oldest Star to Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Genesis implies that the distance of the oldest star to Earth is how far light would travel during the age of mankind: about 6000 light-years.  In 2014, a team of researchers discovered that the oldest star is indeed only 6000 light-years away.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/6012/the-oldest-star-in-the-known-universe&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Planet formation===&lt;br /&gt;
Theories of an old universe insisted that planet formation did not occur until long after the origin of the universe, contrary to the [[Book of Genesis]].  In 2012 scientists reported the existence of planets that formed one billion years after the Big Bang.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0330/Planets-found-at-dawn-of-universe-but-their-existence-is-a-mystery&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Extraterrestrial life===&lt;br /&gt;
For most of the 20th century, scientists typically believed in the existence of extraterrestrial life, despite the lack of any reference to it in the Bible. After spending many billions of dollars looking for such life, and investigating countless reports of UFOs, no such life has been found.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Starlight Problem===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Starlight Problem]] confounds atheistic theories about the universe:  light has reached us from stars that are too far away to transmit the light within the age of the universe.  But the Book of Genesis explains this easily:  &amp;quot;let there be light&amp;quot; means that God created light, not merely stars. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly refers to the number of stars as being innumerable,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''See'' Genesis 15:5, Jeremiah 33:22 and Hebrews 11:12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; despite scientists insisting throughout most of history that there were only about 6000 stars. In the early 17th century [[Galileo]] turned a telescope to the heavens and discovered a great number of stars that had been previously invisible to the naked eye.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://galileo.rice.edu/lib/student_work/astronomy95/orionpleiades.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Not until the 20th century did scientists discover the tremendous number of stars:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/07/22/stars.survey/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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But even that scientific estimate was much too low.  On December 1, 2010, scientists admitted:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/1201/Universe-might-hold-three-times-more-stars-than-previously-thought&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;a cosmic embarrassment of riches – ''the universe appears to hold three times the number of stars many [[astronomer]]s might have estimated only a year ago''.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Although the use of telescopes to chart the outer-reaches of God's heavenly creation was developed around the 16th century in Europe, the Bible accurately hypothesized that every star is unique.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spherical Sun and Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
The Book of Isaiah establishes that the true shape of the earth is a sphere:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|He sits above the sphere of the earth, and its inhabitants look to him like grasshoppers.  He stretches out the galaxies like a curtain, spreading them out like a tent to live under: - [[Isaiah 34-42 (Translated)#Chapter 40|Isaiah 40:22 (CBP]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Isaiah was written circa the 8th century BC, and the Book of Proverbs even earlier.  This was centuries before Greek philosophers, beginning with [[Pythagoras]], theorized the earth was round, and it was not discovered until 2012 that the sun is perfectly spherical.  Astronomers were not able to conclude until well into the second millennium of [[Christ]] that the Earth is also a sphere.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earth free floating in space===&lt;br /&gt;
The book of Job states that God &amp;quot;hangs the [[Earth]] on nothing.&amp;quot; It also contrasts with Greek Mythology's belief that [[Atlas]] holds up the Earth, or ancient Hindu and Native American myths that the Earth was on top of a gigantic turtle.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible presaged the modern view that space is in fact empty, which wasn't known until the dawn of the 20th century when ether theories became disfavored.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cosmic Background Radiation===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis Chapter 1]] explains that God created light first, rather than merely stars.  A &amp;quot;big bang&amp;quot; would result in light everywhere, without darkness, and without ripples in cosmic background radiation.  Yet in the 21st century ripples were discovered in cosmic background radiation, which can only be plausibly explained by recognizing that light was created first.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Meteoroids===&lt;br /&gt;
The Revelation of Saint John notes, &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. Revelation 8:8-9 (KJV)}}&lt;br /&gt;
This accurately describes meteoroids, essentially large chunks of rock lit on fire by the shock of entering the earth's atmosphere.  They were not discovered until 1801, and their composition was not otherwise known until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Stellar proper movement===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Job]], a list of challenges are constructed in the form of questions, with the idea that man can't do it, but God can. Among these challenges, two are remarkable: one mentions the ''untying'' of Orion's belt, and the other is the ''binding'' of the Pleiades. Only recently, astronomers could measure the proper movement of those stars; Orion's belt is moving apart, with each star going in a different direction, while the Pleiades are moving together.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Space flight===&lt;br /&gt;
Many theorize that the book of [[Ezekiel]] contains descriptions of spaceships and rockets, as they would have been described by someone thousands of years ago. [http://www.spaceshipsofezekiel.com/ Author Blumrich] has even published an entire book about this.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Expanding universe===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible explains, in 17 different verses, that God &amp;quot;stretched out&amp;quot; the heavens,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.creationists.org/God-streched-out-the-universe-bible-verses.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in other words, expanding the fabric of space-time from a smaller size to a much larger one. Scientists have discovered only in the last 100 years that, by studying the red shift of galaxies, the universe indeed appears to be expanding, or &amp;quot;stretching out.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Meteorology==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Water cycle, and the Six days of Creation Week===&lt;br /&gt;
The existence of the water cycle was widely unknown to pagan people's until imperial Roman times. But the Bible described the water cycle over a thousand years before that. In general, see [[Ecclesiastes]] 11:3, [[Job]] 26:8 and [[Amos]] 9:6.&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be a more Biblically central reference to the water cycle: The reports in Genesis 1 of five things that God names (v. 5=two, v. 8=one, v. 10=two) seem to be consistent with five basic features of the geophysical half of Earth's life-support cycle. In Earth sciences, it is known that the total life-support cycle is irreducibly complex in relation to Earth's distance to the Sun, and this complexity maintained on an order of mere days' reserve: flora and fauna are interdependent, their interaction is necessary for the maintenance of the atmosphere, and if any one of those five features suddenly ceased, Earth would fail to support life in a matter of days.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Physics==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Immense power within atoms alluded to in 2 Peter chapter 3 ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Abomb.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|The [[atomic bomb]] that was dropped on [[Hiroshima]] unleashed the equivalent of about 15 kilotons of TNT.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The immense power within atoms is alluded to in the Bible in 2 Peter chapter 3.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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{{Cquote|John Phillips notes that Peter’s prophecy of a great, end-times conflagration of the earth and its atmosphere uses precise terminology that accurately describes a nuclear explosion. Liddell and Scott’s Lexicon define the “elements” as “the components into which matter is divided” (or atoms), and the term “dissolved” comes from the basic Greek word meaning to “loose” that which is bound (as in nuclear fission). The term “great noise” is found nowhere else in the New Testament and signifies “a rushing sound of roaring flames.” The term “fervent heat” is derived from a Greek medical term denoting a fever. But Peter’s use of it in application to inanimate objects is the only such known usage anywhere in Greek literature. Thus, Phillips observes, “Peter describes in accurate terms the untying of the atom and the resulting rushing, fiery destruction which follows it.”&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Impossibility of a Grand Unified Theory===&lt;br /&gt;
Billions of dollars and millions of hours have been wasted by scientists in futile pursuit of a &amp;quot;grand unified theory&amp;quot; for physics.  But [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis]] explains that the creation of light was done in a separate, initial creation, free of darkness or entropy, and thus incapable of theoretical unification with matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Light and color===&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the work of [[Isaac Newton]], white was considered to be the fundamental color of light, and other colors (such as red, green and blue) were formed by adding to white light.  Under that traditional theory, the fullness of all light (a combination of all colors of light) would result in something other than pure white.&lt;br /&gt;
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The transfiguration of Jesus is described with remarkable consistency in all three synoptic [[Gospel]]s: in the fullness of light Jesus and his clothing display an intense white, whiter than any bleach could produce.  This illustrates what was not discovered and accepted until nearly 1700 years later: that white is the combination of other fundamental colors, and the purest white light is formed by a perfectly full combination (see [[Prism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Action-at-a-distance===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Jesus]] demonstrated [[action-at-a-distance]], as recounted in [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]].  Scientists, particularly [[atheists]], denied the possibility of this phenomenon for thousands of years.  When Newton proposed action-at-a-distance as the basis of gravity, scientists continued to reject it, but eventually accepted it as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later the [[Theory of Relativity]] again denied the possibility of action-at-a-distance, but [[quantum mechanics]] subsequently proved that it does occur.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also [[Counterexamples to Relativity]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Quantum mechanics===&lt;br /&gt;
The fundamental principle of [[quantum mechanics]] is that the underlying reality is in random fluctuation, or chaos, until there is intelligent observation of it.  This is precisely what [[Luke 1-8 (Translated)#Luke 4:6|Luke 4:6]] reveals when it quotes the [[devil]] in saying that he has dominion over this world.&lt;br /&gt;
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The world was an abyss of chaos at the moment of creation, as explained in the [[Book of Genesis]].  The order created by God is on a foundation of uncertainty.  The discovery of this in subatomic particles in the 1900s, known as quantum mechanics, confirms the nature of the world as described in Genesis.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff, Matthew 13:24-30, describes a fundamental uncertainty that does not resolve itself until there is observation over time.  The authenticity of a simpler explanation of this parable at Matthew 13:36-43 has been challenged.  The parable may refer to a profound and pervasive chaotic struggle between good and evil, or in quantum mechanics the uncertainty in position and energy.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Observation of the wave function====&lt;br /&gt;
The second chapter of the [[Gospel of John]] describes the conversion of water into wine by [[Jesus]] at a wedding reception. [[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 2|John 2:9]] states: &amp;quot;When the host of the wedding feast tasted the water, it had been made into wine.&amp;quot; This passage implies that the drink was not wine until it had been tasted, or observed. The drink was a superposition of the state of wine and the state of water until it was observed as wine.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 16:19, Jesus draws a then-unusual distinction between what is fixed and what is uncertain by declaring, &amp;quot;Whatever you make binding on earth will be binding in heaven, and whatever you set loose on earth will be set loose in heaven.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Matthew_10-19_%28Translated%29&amp;amp;oldid=870778#Chapter_16&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This may describe the fundamental uncertainty that continues unless and until there is human observation that then causes the wave function to collapse into a particular (&amp;quot;bound&amp;quot;) state.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle====&lt;br /&gt;
Both the Old and New Testaments refer to a fundamental [[uncertainty]] that requires observation to resolve, akin to the [[Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle]] discovered in the 1920s:&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;The earth came to exist in an utterly formless and empty state.&amp;quot; -- [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 1:2]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The master refusing to order the removal of the weeds sowed among the wheat because of the uncertainty in distinguishing between the two until later.&amp;quot; -- [[Matthew 10-19 (Translated)|Matthew 13:24-30]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Wave-particle duality====&lt;br /&gt;
Wave-particle duality, first discovered in the 20th century, allows for a particle to sometimes be subject to gravity and sometimes not.&lt;br /&gt;
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The wave-particle duality was described nearly 2000 years earlier in the Gospel account of Jesus walking on water: [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:45-54]].  A close reading of the passage reveals the wave-like (or light-like) characteristic of the walking on water:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:48-49]] (italics added).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|he walked on the surface of the lake and came to the boat, ''nearly passing it''.  But when they saw him walking on water, they thought it must have been ''a ghost'', and cried out.}}&lt;br /&gt;
In a more general sense, Jesus could be viewed as the &amp;quot;particle&amp;quot; and the [[Holy Spirit]] as the &amp;quot;wave&amp;quot; of God.  A fuller understanding of the [[Trinity]] could have opened the eyes of scientists much earlier to the fundamental wave-particle duality of nature ... '''''and still could'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Quantum tunneling====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Quantum tunneling]] is the ability of particles to move through energy barriers even though ostensibly impossible based on classical laws of mechanical physics.  This was not discovered by scientists until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus proved this was possible in [[John 15-21 (Translated)#Chapter 20|John 20:26]], when he appeared before the [[Apostles]] in a closed room with completely shut doors.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Classical relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
Romans 10:6-7: But the righteousness that is by faith says: &amp;quot;Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ down) 7&amp;quot;or 'Who will descend into the deep?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).&lt;br /&gt;
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Equating ascending into heaven to bringing Christ down is an example of the fact that there is no universal reference frame, and only relative speeds matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Modern relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Theory of Relativity]] denies the possibility of action-at-a-distance.  But several passages in the Bible, such as [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]] and [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)|Matthew 27:51]], describe simultaneous actions from afar.&lt;br /&gt;
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The list of [[Counterexamples to Relativity]] has grown recently, and modern experiments in quantum mechanics have confirmed action-at-a-distance.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Second Law of Thermodynamics===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Book of Genesis]] states that the darkness or chaos in the universe can never overcome the light, or order.  This same concept was not discovered in physics until the development of the [[Second Law of Thermodynamics]], which holds that heat (or order or light) always travels in the direction of cold (or disorder or darkness), and never in the opposite direction.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10-11]] explains that the universe shall &amp;quot;wear out&amp;quot; like a &amp;quot;garment&amp;quot;, centuries before the discovery of the physical law that [[entropy]] is always increasing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nature of air===&lt;br /&gt;
Until about 300 years ago, common knowledge believe that the air was &amp;quot;empty&amp;quot; and didn't weigh anything. But [[Job]] 28:25 states, &amp;quot;To establish a '''weight''' for the wind, And apportion the waters by measure&amp;quot; indicating that the divinely inspired author knew the air had substance and weight.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Conservative forces===&lt;br /&gt;
James 1:17 describes the electromagnetic forces (light) as having no &amp;quot;shadow of turning.&amp;quot;  Not understood for nearly 2000 years, this predicts that electromagnetic forces are [[conservative]] such that their [[line integrals]] over a closed loop are zero.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mathematics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See main article: [[Math and the Bible]]''&lt;br /&gt;
===Zero===&lt;br /&gt;
Mathematicians in Western Europe did not discover [[zero]] until many centuries after the Bible was written.  But there are hundreds of references to the concept of zero throughout the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Banach-Tarski Paradox===&lt;br /&gt;
The only miracle described in all four [[Gospels]] is the multiplication of loaves and fish by Jesus, thought for thousands of years to be a mathematical and physical impossibility.  But the 20th century discovery of the so-called [[Banach-Tarski Paradox]] proved a mathematical basis for creating identical copies of an object out of no extra material.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Axiomatization of Arithmetic===&lt;br /&gt;
The full set of axioms for integer arithmetic may be found in the Bible.  For example, [[Luke 9-16 (Translated)|Luke 12:52]] is a striking statement of the commutative law for addition: &amp;quot;For from this point forward there will be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.&amp;quot;  This understanding presaged both later attempts at the axiomatization of arithmetic by Peano and the development of [[abstract algebra]] in the 19th and 20th centuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Infinity===&lt;br /&gt;
Most thinkers scoffed at the concept of [[infinity]] for thousands of years, despite it being referenced in the Bible in many ways.  See, e.g., Psalm 147:4-6 (God's &amp;quot;understanding is infinte&amp;quot;); [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)#20:1|Matthew 20:1-14]] ([[parable]] of the wages for the workers in the vineyard); Matthew 16:26 (one's soul has an infinite value to him, and nothing else can be worth more).&lt;br /&gt;
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But [[Georg Cantor]], deeply inspired by [[Christianity]], established a logical foundation for infinity that revolutionized all of mathematics as a result, with his development of [[set theory]] to accomplish his goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Calculus===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible emphasizes the importance of limits as a key distinction between this world and God; Calculus consists of relying on limits to derive useful results.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.aiias.edu/ict/vol_27/27cc_225-239.htm Norie Grace Rivera-Poblete: &amp;quot;''God and Calculus''&amp;quot;], Institute for Christian Teaching Education Department of [[Seventh-day Adventist]], Prepared for the 27th International Faith and Learning Seminar held at Mission, Muak Lek Saraburi, Thailand December 3 – 15, 2000&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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James 1:17 states that the first and second derivatives of God's light (truth) is zero, more than 1600 years before calculus was discovered: &amp;quot;with [God] there is no variation or shadow of turning.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Shadow%252525252525252520of%252525252525252520Turning&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/no-variation-or-shadow-of-turning-calculus-in-the-bible/ Nathan Albright: ''&amp;quot;No Variation Or Shadow Of Turning: Calculus In The Bible&amp;quot;''], Blog-Entry, Feb 24, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Arithmetic with Negative Numbers===&lt;br /&gt;
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Negative numbers were not fully accepted by mathematicians until the 1800s,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nrich.maths.org/5961&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; including how a negative number dominates the result in multiplication with a positive number, to yield a negative outcome.  Yet Jesus' parable of the sower and the seed, in Matthew 13:1-23, Mark 4:1-8, and Luke 8:4-8, explained the same effect nearly 2000 years earlier.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Indeterminacy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that God is &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  See Job 5:9 (God &amp;quot;does great things and unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 26:1 (&amp;quot;God's Majesty Is Unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 36:26 (&amp;quot;Behold, God is great, and we know him not; the number of his years is unsearchable.&amp;quot;) Psalm 145:3 (&amp;quot;Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised, and his greatness is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Proverbs 25:3 (&amp;quot;As the heavens for height, and the earth for depth, so the heart of kings is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Isaiah 40:28 (&amp;quot;Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Romans 11:33 (&amp;quot;Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!&amp;quot;)' Ephesians 3:8 (&amp;quot;to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;All quotations are to the ESV of the Bible.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John 1:1 teaches that logic is part of God, and thus logic itself must also be &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  For many decades the finest mathematicians thought that the consistency of logic could be proven, until [[Kurt Godel]] (himself a frequent reader of the Bible) proved the indeterminacy, or &amp;quot;unsearchability&amp;quot;, of mathematics.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trolls===&lt;br /&gt;
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The existence of malicious trolls on the internet is difficult to understand, until one reads Matthew 13:24-30 - the Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crime===&lt;br /&gt;
Mark 4:22 says how nothing can be hid, neither can anything be kept secret. Empirical statistics show that the vast majority of crimes worldwide are solved.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Morality of animals===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 3:1-10]] explains that only humans understand good and evil, and clothe themselves because of it.  Repeatedly scientists have attempted to demonstrate that animals can understand morality also, but every attempt has failed.  No animal (other than humans) has ever been found that clothes itself. However, as limited case, animals do demonstrate altruistic behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Existence of dinosaurs===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Dinosaur]] fossils were not discovered until the 19th century, but the book of Job describes enormous creatures called behemoth and leviathan, the descriptions being similar to dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures.  It may also have referred to another similarly giant now-extinct species. Other dinosaur like creatures mentioned are the cockatrice and satyr &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/behemoth.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Killing methods of lions===&lt;br /&gt;
Until the 1970s naturalists believed that lions killed their prey by biting through the neck or by breaking the neck with a swat of a paw, while the Bible says that lions suffocated their prey. (Nahum 2:12) It was not until the 1970s that it was discovered that the [[Bible]] was correct.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BLions87.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Lions fit their mouth over the mouth and nose of their prey and hold it while it suffocates, in addition to other killing methods.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Giant sea creatures and Jonah===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Jonah (Translated)|Book of Jonah]] describes his survival in the belly of a giant sea creature for 2.5 to 3 days.  Scientists declared this to be impossible due to powerful stomach acids that quickly break down any material and the lack of breathable air inside marine animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010, scientists found the following materials intact in the belly of a gray whale that had died after being stranded on a Northwest beach:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/19/pair-sweat-pants-garbage-beached-whales-stomach/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, many sea creatures have gone extinct in the thousands of years since Jonah lived.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Gender of worker ants===&lt;br /&gt;
Proverbs 6:6-8 correctly states the sex of worker [[ant]]s (female), using the correct one of the two [[Grammar#Gender|grammatical genders]] available in Biblical [[Hebrew]].  Secular entomologists would not discover that fact until the 19th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=rzwSAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA6&amp;amp;dq=ant+undeveloped+female+worker+date:1700-1850&amp;amp;lr=&amp;amp;as_brr=0&amp;amp;as_pt=ALLTYPES#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false The study of medicine, Volume 5 By John Mason Good]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Harvester ants ===&lt;br /&gt;
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19th century [[Europe]]an naturalists were wrong about [[ant]] behavior - namely the issue of ants/harvesting (Harvester ants). The Bible was correct about ant behavior.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BWilliamsvsAnon71to73.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Hearing and snakes ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The scientific consensus and the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'' both indicated that snakes can't hear.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/snake-charming-and-bible-accuracy  Charmed, I’m sure!] by Calvin Smith&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ed5015.tripod.com/BCobra94.htm The Cobra and the Bible]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Bible said that snakes can hear. 21st century research showed that snakes can hear.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Vegetarian lion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The prophet Isaiah says that there will be a time when the [[lion]] will lay down with the lamb and the lion will eat straw like the ox (Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25). There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:8790lion-wont-eat-meat.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
David Catchpoole wrote at the website of [[Creation Ministries International]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|From 1946 to 1955, A female African lion, born and raised in America, lived her entire lifetime of nine years without ever eating meat.1 In fact, her owners, Georges and Margaret Westbeau,2 alarmed by scientists’ reports that carnivorous animals cannot live without meat, went to great lengths to try to coax their unusual pet (‘Little Tyke’) to develop a taste for it. They even advertised a cash reward for anyone who could devise a meat-containing formula that the lioness would like. The curator of a New York zoo advised the Westbeaus that putting a few drops of blood in Little Tyke’s milk bottle would help in weaning her, but the lioness cub refused to touch it—even when only a single drop of blood had been added.&lt;br /&gt;
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The more knowledgeable animal experts among the many visitors to the Westbeaus’ 100 acre (40 hectare) ranch also proffered advice, but nothing worked. Meanwhile, Little Tyke continued to do extremely well on a daily diet of cooked grain, raw eggs and milk. By four years of age she was fully grown and weighed 352 pounds (160 kg)...&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Westbeau’s observation of the lioness that ‘To condition her stomach she would spend an hour at a time eating the succulent tall grass in the fields’, is also a vivid reminder of the prophecies of Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25, ‘ … the lion will eat straw like the ox.’&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Linguistics==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Common descent theory===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[theory of evolution]] suggests that all languages are descended from a common ancestral language, and for a century (1860 to about 1960) scientists clung to that view.  But now most linguists identify many different families of languages that have no common ancestor, just as described in Genesis 11 with the [[Tower of Babel]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earliest Hebrew writings===&lt;br /&gt;
Skeptics have claimed that [[Hebrew]] writing did not exist before the 6th century B.C.  But a recent Israeli archaeological dig dated four centuries earlier, in the 10th century B.C., included an artifact found at Khirbet Qeiyafa in the Elah Valley.  This artifact contained a written inscription in Hebrew relating to &amp;quot;slaves, widows and orphans.&amp;quot; Haifa University Professor Gershon Galil noted that this disproves the theory that the Bible could not have been written before the 6th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2010/01/08/Bible-may-be-centuries-older-than-thought/UPI-21171262997765/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Poverty===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus stated that there will always be poverty,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Mark 14:7, Matthew 26:11 and John 12.8.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yet [[liberals]] repeatedly insist that poverty can be eliminated with more government spending.  Every attempt to eliminate poverty has failed just as Jesus predicted. In 1991 [[Ronald Coase]] won a [[Nobel Prize]] in [[Economics]] for the [[Coase Theorem]], which implies that government attempts to reduced poverty will interfere with efficient operation of the economy, and thereby reduce wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Socialism and Capitalism===&lt;br /&gt;
Ecclesiastes 5:18-19 says that [[capitalism]] is a gift from God:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God give the him: for it is his portion. Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Similarly, Ecclesiastes 6:1-2 condemns [[socialism]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Government and Politics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also [[Biblical political foreknowledge]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nation-state===&lt;br /&gt;
Ancient Israel, as described in the [[Old Testament]], was a [[nation-state]] and that model was not utilized again until thousands of years later, well after the Renaissance in Western Europe.  This model of a nation-state has become the modern standard worldwide.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Separation of Powers===&lt;br /&gt;
The separation of powers adopted successfully by the [[U.S. Constitution]] in 1787, with the legislative, executive, and judicial branches having separate authority and jurisdiction, was first described in the Old Testament.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Jeremiah 17:19 and Isaiah 33:22.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Liberal influence on the media===&lt;br /&gt;
The Third [[Three Temptations of Christ|Temptation of Christ]] is to bow down and worship the [[Satan]] in exchange for becoming ruler of the world.  The media plays that role and its influence is predictably liberal and anti-[[Christian]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Engineering==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge about these engineering developments has been proposed:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2191&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|automobiles (Joel 2:3-4); airplanes (Isaiah 31:5, also 40:31); submarines (Revelation 9:1-11); radio (Ecclesiastes 10:20); and television (Revelation 11:3-12)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Classical photography, using negative imaging, was predated by the [[Shroud of Turin]] with respect to the imaging on the Shroud likely due to the light of the [[Resurrection]]. The Shroud ([[Greek]]: σινδών - sindón)  is mentioned in three Gospels: Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46, Luke 23:53, while John 20:5-7 talks about a face cloth or napkin ([[Greek]]: σουδάριον - soudárion - perhaps the [[Sudarium of Oviedo]]), and a piece of fine linen ([[Greek]]: ὀθόνιον - othonion). The description by the eyewitness John implies that his sighting of the Shroud may have confirmed his [[faith]], though he doesn't mention its photograph-like image.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Calvin, who opposed the Catholic Church, wrote a book in 1543 criticizing all material evidence of Jesus and the martyrs.  In it he claimed that because the negative image on the Shroud is not described in the Gospels, it must not be authentic. [[John Calvin]]: ''Traité des Reliques'', Geneve 1543, translated by Valerian Krasinski: ''A treatise on Relics'', Edingburgh 1854&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alleged &amp;quot;contradictions&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge is an underpinning of creation science, and is widely credited by Christian scientists and apologists, including the organizations [[Creation Ministries International]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creation.com/modern-medicine Creation Ministries International on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Answers in Genesis]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i1/medicine.asp Answers in Genesis on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[CreationWiki]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creationwiki.org/index.php/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge  Bible Scientific Foreknowledge]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists and liberals unsuccessfully attempt to discredit the Bible based on science.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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===Value of Pi===&lt;br /&gt;
Two sections of the Bible (1 Kings 7, 23-26, 2 Chronicles, 4, 2-5) appear to indicate that the correct value of [[Pi]] is 3, whereas Pi is, in fact, an irrational number, equalling approximately 3.14159. Atheists, including [[Sam Harris]] and [[Richard Dawkins]], allege that this value indicates the fallacious nature of scripture.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://richarddawkins.net/articles/139 The Richard Dawkins Foundation, ''Reply to a Christian'', Sam Harris -]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, a simple explanation of the claimed &amp;quot;contradiction&amp;quot; is that the Bible records the ratio of the actual object which Hiram created, not that of a mathematical [[sphere]]. The claim that it was round all about does not equate to a claim that it was a perfect sphere, as atheists have claimed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Theology'', Volume 59, Issues 427-438,  Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge (Great Britain), London, 1956, p. 23&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, Pi to one significant digit is 3. Just because the measurement is given to only one significant digit, that does not mean it was precisely that amount.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;There are no instances in the Bible where fractions are used.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of course, since Pi is an irrational number, it would be impossible to give a truly precise measurement. Since decimal notation was not in use in Biblical times, there was no way to express Pi to greater accuracy in the language of the day.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bat as a bird===&lt;br /&gt;
A favorite [[evolutionist]] canard is that [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:13-19]] labels the [[bat]], a [[mammal]], as a [[bird]]. The [[KJV]] translation of &amp;quot;fowl&amp;quot; is simply incorrect, as the Hebrew term '' 'owph'' did not entail the &amp;quot;clade&amp;quot; of birds, but was a non-scientific category simply referring to ''any'' winged creature. A popular Jewish translation, used to explain the laws of keeping kosher, translates the term as &amp;quot;winged flying things.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Rabbits, coneys, and cud===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:5-6]], the Bible states, {{cquote|And the coney ''(or hyrax)'', because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.}} While rabbits do not, in fact, regurgitate food and re-chew it, they have the same jaw motions as animals that do&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/do-badger-and-rabbit-chew-cud&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and thus appeared as cud-chewing to the Jews of Moses's time. Atheists and liberals love to misrepresent this passage only because they are in [[liberal denial]] of the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Number of legs of insects===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:20-23]], the Bible states, {{cquote|All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the &lt;br /&gt;
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But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.}}While this may appear to indicate that insects have four legs (they have six), the passage is in fact referring to the manner in which the grasshopper moves. Grasshoppers have large back legs mainly used for jumping, and not for walking, which is when it uses its smaller four front legs. Thus, the ancient Hebrews were just describing things as they saw them, not according to scientific nomenclature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay:Rebuttal to Biblical scientific foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Biblical political foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christianity and Science]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Prodigal Son]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.creationwiki.org/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge Biblical scientific foreknowledge] by [[CreationWiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/10/scientific-consensus-and-evolutionary.html Jesus vs. the scientific consensus and evolution. Jesus wins!]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Ten of the Top Scientific Facts in the Bible&amp;quot;, Living Waters Films with Ray Comfort. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sMJMXDiH4]&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;div&gt;[[File:Newton.png|thumb|200px|alt=Isaac Newton, cornerstone of the scientific revolution, based his research on the scientific authority of the [[Bible]].|thumb|[[Portrait]] of [[Isaac Newton]], cornerstone of the [[scientific revolution]], based his research on the scientific authority of the Bible.]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' is how the [[Bible]] shows a comprehension of [[science]] far ahead of its time. The Bible is a superb roadmap to future scientific discoveries. Unfortunately [[Bible denier]]s, including many [[Atheism|atheist]]s and [[evolution]]ists, refuse to read the Bible, and '''''their irrational [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|closed-mindedness]] against the Bible obstructs the advancement of science'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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The [[Book of Genesis]] gives [[Biblical scientific foreknowledge#Anesthesia|an example of anesthesia]] long before man discovered it in 1846.  And the underlying chaos and [[uncertainty]] in the physical world was explained in the Bible long before [[quantum mechanics]] confirmed it in the 1900s.&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Biblical scientific foreknowledge''' has an additional benefit: it guides a more precise translation of verses that describe scientific-related events, such as the reference to the universe in [[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10]], and the changing of [[Essay:Water into Wine|water into wine]] at the wedding feast.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Geology==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Massive flooding===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheist scientists long opposed a [[young earth]] [[creation|created]] by [[God]] where cataclysmic flooding, such as the [[Great Flood]] described in the Bible, shaped the landscape. However, ample [[counterexamples to an old earth]] exist and the discovery in the Northwest of &amp;quot;giant ripple marks, 50 feet high and 200-500 feet apart&amp;quot; proved that a cataclysmic flood in the region had indeed occurred thousands of years ago. As a result, &amp;quot;[a]mong geologists, the concept of a catastrophic flood came to be universally accepted by the late 1950s.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.iafi.org/floods.html The Ice Age Flood Institute reports on the massive floods in the Northwest.]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Continental drift===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Continental drift]] was  proposed by [[creationist]] Antonio Snider-Pellegrini in 1859 based on [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis 1:9-10]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aig/aig-c001.html Christian Answers explains Antonio Snider's divine inspiration&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; which states, {{cquote|And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.&lt;br /&gt;
And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.}} Because land is no longer all in [[Pangaea|one place]], this implies that the continents have shifted over the six millennia to their current positions. [[Atheists]] and [[scientist]]s who hadn't seen the light of [[creationism]] were in [[liberal denial]] about this concept for a century, until finally accepting its truth. This is just more data that the Bible knew millennia before [[secular]] [[science]] caught up.&lt;br /&gt;
However, The Continents are still connected; under the ocean is land if you dry up the water. This interpretation of this verse is in error, the separation spoken of here is the waters under the sky (Firmament) and the water out in space (beyond the heavens). Comets prove this theory, as many of them contain ice, and today as much as 1% of terrestrial rain comes from extraterrestrial sources.{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}&lt;br /&gt;
The most likely reason for the current position and shape of the land mass is the Flood of Noah. Pangea does not work without flipping, shrinking, and sometimes removing countries entirely. Any Biblical statements of continents is in Genesis 10:25 when Peleg is mentioned &amp;quot;for in his days was the earth divided&amp;quot; this in particular refers to the separation of what today is Russia, Japan, and Alaska, when the oceans arose, and also to the division of the peoples by languages, who migrated together according to their language after the confusing of tongues at the tower of Babel, obviously the migration took place before the oceanic divide which led to the natives of the Far West. Everyone laughed at Columbus, not because they thought earth was flat, but because they had forgotten the Far West (America) was there, and they thought he didn't have nearly enough supplies or a big enough ship to go to Asia the long way around, and they would have been right if he didn't hit the Caribbean first by complete accident. Recent findings of biblical stone tablets, in Byzantine script prove that trade between Europe and the Far West was common prior to the dark age which began in 400 or 500 AD.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Underwater springs===&lt;br /&gt;
Only in modern times have scientists become aware of the enormous underwater springs feeding into the oceans, and the very deep valleys at the bottom of the oceans. However, the Bible repeatedly described this thousands of years earlier in [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 7|Genesis 7:11]], which states, {{cquote|In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.}} Again, in 2 Samuel 22:16, the Bible states that, {{cquote|And the channels of the sea appeared, the foundations of the world were discovered, at the rebuking of the LORD, at the blast of the breath of his nostrils.}}&lt;br /&gt;
And Job 38:16 “Hast thou entered into the springs of the sea? Or hast thou walked in the search of the depths?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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This is ''obvious'' proof to all but [[liberals]] that the Bible had foreknowledge of subcrustal oceans, something the ancient Jews could not have possibly known, and thus proof of the Bible's God-given accuracy and divine nature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Agriculture==&lt;br /&gt;
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===Malthusianism===&lt;br /&gt;
Since Thomas [[Robert Malthus|Malthus's]] 1798 work, ''An Essay on the Principle of Population'', [[liberal]] [[intellectual]]s insisted that the world's population would grow faster than the [[food]] supply and result in mass starvation. However, there are examples in both the [[Old Testament|Old]]{{citation needed|date=September 2015}} and [[New Testament]]s{{citation needed|date=September 2015}}, as well as the example of [[William Bradford]] at Plymouth Colony,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;{{cite book|last1=Bradford|first1=William|title=The History of Plimoth Plantation|date=1669|pages=135–136}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; of the food supply increasing to be more far plentiful than expected, mostly due to faith in [[God|God's]] powers and use of [[conservative]] [[economics]]. Indeed, in modern times [[obesity]] is far more prevalent and harmful than [[hunger]] worldwide, and food production far exceeds the ability to consume even in impoverished nations. Hunger remains a problem only in places with [[liberal]] and/or [[leftist]] political systems that impede food distribution or destroy the [[free market]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==History==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Psychogenic hematidrosis ===&lt;br /&gt;
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Psychogenic hematidrosis, which is sweat turning into blood, happens rarely but in the cases it does happen, it usually happens with death row inmates.  In 70 percent of all studies that document this condition, the condition occurs in death row inmates.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjXMsq6SscA Police Detective Examines the Resurrection of Jesus becomes Christian]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; In the garden of Gethsemane, Jesus sweat blood (Luke 22:44). The early church was puzzled by the account of Jesus sweating blood given in Scripture and they didn't know what to make of it.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Pleural effusion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The early church was puzzled by the blood and water that came out of Jesus' side when the soldier plunged his spear into him. The blood was not a problem in their understanding, but the water was. Medical science can now explain the water coming out of Jesus' side as being the result of pleural effusion.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;youtube.com&amp;quot;/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Great Flood ice mummy===&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The building of the ark.jpg|thumb|The building of the Ark by Bertram of Minden, ancient [[German Painting]].]]&lt;br /&gt;
According to the Bible, a [[Great Flood]] occurred around 3300 B.C., or about 5300 years ago. It involved a cataclysmic rainstorm of a magnitude never seen before or since. For centuries [[atheist]]s and [[liberals]] have mocked it, claiming that it was impossible. However, in 1991, an &amp;quot;ice mummy&amp;quot; was discovered in the [[Alps]]. Scientists located a remarkably preserved ancient body, including even the contents of his last meal, which was due to an extraordinary ice storm. By radiometric [[carbon dating]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.nupecc.org/iai2001/report/B44.pdf Radiocarbon dating of the Iceman Ötzi with&lt;br /&gt;
accelerator mass spectrometry&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; the scientists discovered that this massive ice storm occurred 5300 years ago, which perfectly matches the Biblical Great Flood.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/icemummies/iceman.html PBS on the &amp;quot;Iceman&amp;quot; in the Alps&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This is obvious proof of the Great Flood, as no natural occurrence could possibly explain how somebody came to be preserved by ice in the [[Alps]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest Living Organism===&lt;br /&gt;
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Bristlecone pine trees in California's White Mountains are the oldest living unitary organism.  As predicted by the Bible, they are not as old as 6,000 years but are as old as 5,000 years,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://abcnews.go.com/US/photos/worlds-oldest-living-things-23385913/image-23386256&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; roughly the time of the [[Great Flood]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===False theories===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus' recognition that the truth would remain hidden from arrogant &amp;quot;intellectuals&amp;quot; while simultaneously revealed to humbler, [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|more openminded]] people. This foreshadowed the creation of theories to pull self-centered intellectual wannabees away from [[God]], such as the [[Theory of Evolution]], the [[Theory of Relativity]], the [[homosexual agenda]], the [[secular]] culture of [[abortion]], [[Communism]], and countless other [[liberal]] and atheistic ideas and ideologies.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Mankind remains extant===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible predicts that the end of [[mankind]] will not occur by chance, but rather at a time known only to God. Despite the extinction of many species each year throughout history, the expectation by scientists that Earth would have been hit by chance by a massive, extinction-causing meteor, and laws of probability that predict other immense catastrophes, mankind continues and Christianity grows just as Jesus predicted.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Construction of ancient sky-high structures===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible—the [[Book of Genesis]] chapter 11—explains how ancient people arrogantly sought to construct a sky-high &amp;quot;[[Tower of Babel]]&amp;quot; to try to reach [[Heaven]].  Then, in the 1900s, archaeologists discovered the great ziggurat of ancient Ur, located in present-day southern Iraq, having characteristics similar to the biblical description of the Tower of Babel.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.bible-history.com/babylonia/BabyloniaThe_Ziggurat.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hometown of Goliath===&lt;br /&gt;
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1 Samuel 17 of the Bible discusses the giant Goliath from a Philistine city named Gath, located in central Israel. In July 2015, archaeologists discovered its entrance in an excavation that began in 1899.  They also uncovered evidence of a massive earthquake that occurred in the eighth century BC, as described in the biblical book of Amos.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.christiantoday.com/article/gates.to.goliaths.city.discovered/61124.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Effect of Deafness on Speech===&lt;br /&gt;
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For 2000 years after [[Christ]], scientists overlooked the close connection between hearing and speech, and the brain, and are just starting to discover this now.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.zdnet.com/article/deafness-can-have-unexpected-consequences-on-speech-patterns/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  But [[Jesus]] illustrated the connection when he cured a problem with speech primarily by opening someone's ears, after which the man &amp;quot;spoke plainly.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Mark 7:34-35 ([[ESV]])&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Common DNA===&lt;br /&gt;
[[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 1|John 1:3]] explains that &amp;quot;All things were made by Him; not one thing was made without Him.&amp;quot;  If something had been made without Him then creatures would exist that had completely different DNA from other creatures.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Psychiatry===&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Jesus Christ]] and [[Christianity|Christendom]] have emphasized the important of forgiveness and in the last few decades mental health specialists have increasingly seen the importance of forgiveness to alleviate anger/depression/bitterness and other emotional problems within individuals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2755173/ Indian J Psychiatry. 2009 Apr-Jun; 51(2): 153–156. doi:  10.4103/0019-5545.49459, PMCID: PMC2755173, ''Forgiveness: A note for psychiatrists'' by Prakash Gangdev]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Modern medicine now realizes that obsessing with one's past is a big cause of psychiatric problems.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/in-flux/201104/5-ways-find-closure-the-past&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Jesus had the same insight 2000 years earlier: &amp;quot;No one who puts his hand to the plow and looks back is fit for the [[kingdom of God]].&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Luke 9:62 ([[ESV]]).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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See also: [[Atheism and anger]] and [[Atheism and bitterness]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== The Bible and health practices ==&lt;br /&gt;
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''See also:'' [[The Bible and health]]&lt;br /&gt;
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Max Neuberger, writing in his &amp;quot;History of Medicine&amp;quot; states concerning the Mosaic laws: &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|The commands concern prophylaxis and suppression of epidemics, suppression of venereal disease and prostitution, care of the skin, baths,[17] food, housing and clothing, regulation of labour, sexual life, discipline of the people, etc. Many of these commands, such as Sabbath rest, circumcision, laws concerning food (interdiction of blood and pork), measures concerning menstruating and lying-in women, and those suffering from gonorrhoea, isolation of lepers, and hygiene of the camp, are, in view of the conditions of the climate, surprisingly rational.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Blood clotting on the eighth day===&lt;br /&gt;
In Genesis 17:12, God mandated that Abraham circumcise his sons on the 8th day after birth.  In 1935, it was discovered that Vitamin K, together with prothrombin, causes blood coagulation, (important in any surgical procedure).  On the 8th day, the amount of prothrombin present is elevated above 100% of normal and is therefore the only day in the male’s life in which this will be the case (normally). If surgery is to be performed, day 8 is the perfect day to do it as vitamin K and prothrombin levels are at their peak.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Lifespan===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible puts the maximum lifespan for man at 120 years (Genesis 6:3), the typical lifespan at 70 years and the typical for a good-living person at 80 years (Psalm 90:10).&lt;br /&gt;
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Thousands of years after that was written, despite immense advances in medicine and technology, these figures remain remarkably accurate.  The longest modern recorded life of a man is precisely 120 years (Shigechiyo Izumi), the average lifespan for a man is roughly 70 years, and the average for a good-living man is about 80 years.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Oldest human ancestor===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible suggests that the oldest maternal ancestor &amp;amp;#8212; [[Eve]] &amp;amp;#8212; first lived slightly more than 6000 years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/scopes/ussher.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  The mutation rate of [[mitochondria]] indicates roughly the same date for the most recent common human ancestor.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creationwiki.org/Mitochondrial_Eve_lived_only_6500_years_ago_%28Talk.Origins%29&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Anesthesia===&lt;br /&gt;
The first surgical operation described in the Bible was the removal of a rib from [[Adam]], which was performed by first putting Adam into an unconscious,  &amp;quot;deep sleep-like trance.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 2:21]]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This was the equivalent of anesthesia &amp;amp;#8212; thousands of years before anesthesia using inhaled ether was developed by William Morton in 1846.  Had scientists and physicians been more [[Essay:Quantifying Openmindedness|openminded]] about Genesis 2:21 (perhaps they had considered it a miracle, and thus impossible for humans to achieve), they may have discovered anesthesia far sooner, and saved many more lives.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bloodletting hastens death===&lt;br /&gt;
At the time of Jesus and for centuries afterward, arteries and veins were thought to be filled with air, and blood was viewed as something to be used up rather than recirculate.  Bloodletting—the practice of intentionally draining blood from a patient—was common medical practice through the time of [[George Washington]], hastening his death prematurely for reasons not understood until years later.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/37212.php&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Most victims of crucifixion in Roman times languished on the cross for days. But the Bible describes how Pilate, who crucified many, was surprised at how quickly Jesus passed away. 2000 years later, scientific knowledge has advanced to understand that this was caused by his prior loss of blood during his scourging (being brutally whipped), a punishment typically given ''instead of'' crucifixion.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Homosexuality and disease===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible's prohibition against [[homosexuality]] predated knowledge about the [[Homosexuality and Health|many diseases and disorders associated with homosexuality]], and thus showed scientific wisdom prescient for its time.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Eyesight===&lt;br /&gt;
The description in the [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Gospel of Mark 8:24]] for the sensation when one's eyesight is restored includes his perception of &amp;quot;trees walking.&amp;quot; This perception was first confirmed nearly 2000 years later as physicians developed medical techniques for restoring eyesight.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;This newspaper account is not specific but describes the overall sensation of restored sight: [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-138886/Robot-eye-restore-lost-sight-20-years.html]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Maximum human height===&lt;br /&gt;
Atheists thought the size of [[Goliath]] in the Bible to be absurdly large (over nine feet tall), until [[Robert Wadlow]] grew to nearly 9 feet tall and was still growing when he died at a young age in 1940.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Leprosy===&lt;br /&gt;
Although leprosy is not as contagious as other infectious diseases, and some forms of it (such as tuberculoid or paucibacillary form are not contagious), Leviticus 13 and 14 set forth rules to prevent epidemics of this disease among the people of Israel.  Western science did not catch up until, in 1663, such laws were introduced in America in an attempt to curb an outbreak of smallpox.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Hygiene===&lt;br /&gt;
Millennia before germ theory was proposed in the late 19th century, Leviticus 15 mandated hygiene laws that included bathing, washing of clothing, destruction of contaminated pottery and washing of hands.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 15:2, Jesus then curbed compulsive hand-washing by explaining why it was no longer typically necessary (in a non-farming, non-medical context) with respect to man's digestive system.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Digestive system===&lt;br /&gt;
It was common thought throughout history that infections and illness resulted from the digestive system, based on unclean hands or food.  Jesus rejected that view, and declared hand-washing before meals to be typically unnecessary.  It took many centuries before science caught up to the Bible on this.&lt;br /&gt;
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It is part of the Jewish kosher law to not eat milk with meat. In some Jewish homes they have separate refrigerators for meat and milk products. It comes from Deuteronomy 14:21 &amp;quot;...Do not cook a young goat in its mother’s milk.&amp;quot; There is evidence that the body has difficulty digesting both meat and milk at the same time.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, as part of the Jewish kosher law a pork is on the list of prohibited foods. Under cooked pork can transmit Trichinosis, a parasitic disease that can infect muscle tissue, the brain, and the central nervous system, among other [[parasite]]s and zoonotic diseases.  [[Creation denial|Creation deniers]] can counter this point only with such desperate non-arguments as asking why God had to create trichinae at all and then allow them onto the [[Ark]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Fetal Alcohol Syndrome====&lt;br /&gt;
Not discovered until 1973 by American physicians, fetal alcohol syndrome results from harm done to the unborn child in pregnancy due to the mother drinking alcohol.  The Bible, thousands of years earlier, forbade the mother of [[Samson]] from drinking alcohol while pregnant, so that he could become a powerful leader:&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;3&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;The angel of the Lord appeared to her and said, “You are barren and childless, but you are going to become pregnant and give birth to a son. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;4&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;'''''Now see to it that you drink no wine or other fermented drink''''' and that you do not eat anything unclean. &amp;lt;sup&amp;gt;5&amp;lt;/sup&amp;gt;You will become pregnant and have a son whose head is never to be touched by a razor because the boy is to be a Nazirite, dedicated to God from the womb. He will take the lead in delivering Israel from the hands of the Philistines.”&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Judges 13:3-5 (NIV).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Animal Toxicity====&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:David Macht.jpg|thumbnail|right||200px|Dr. David Macht]]&lt;br /&gt;
In 1953 Dr. [http://www.creationwiki.org/David_Macht David Macht], a Johns Hopkins researcher, conducted toxicity tests on many different kinds of animals and fish and concluded that the toxicity of Levitically [[Mosaic law and unclean animals|&amp;quot;unclean&amp;quot; animals]] was higher than that of the [[Mosaic law and clean animals|&amp;quot;clean&amp;quot; animals]], and that the correlation with the description in Leviticus was 100%.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht1&amp;gt;Macht, David I., MD. &amp;quot;[http://members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/Macht1953.pdf An Experimental Pharmacological Appreciation of Levitcus XI and Deuteronomy XIV].&amp;quot; ''Bulletin of the History of Medicine'' 27(5):444-450, September–October, 1953. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Macht's study in terms of classifying kosher and non-kosher animals matched the kosher classification performed by James W. Atz, Ph.D., Curator and Dean Bibliographer in the Department of Ichthyology of the American Museum of Natural History, NY, NY and Adjunct Professor of Biology, Graduate School of Arts and Science on New York University. Dr. Atz's list of kosher and non-kosher animals was published by the Orthodox Union in Kosher Guide and in the Orthodox Union Kosher Consumer Directory.&amp;lt;ref name=Atz&amp;gt;Atz, James W., contrib. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fish/ KASHRUT.COM - Kosher and Non-kosher fish]&amp;quot; Scharf Associates, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; According to a list of kosher and non-kosher fish published by the Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, deciding what fish have scales, in the Orthodox Jewish community, appears to involve semantics as scales which are not visible to the human eye or scales that cannot be removed without tearing the skin are not considered &amp;quot;scales&amp;quot; in terms of the Torah law for determining which fish are kosher. It appears that Jewish religious authorities do appeal to well known Torah commentators.&amp;lt;ref name=Goldberg&amp;gt;Goldberg, Chaim. &amp;quot;[http://www.kashrut.com/articles/fishfaq/ Consumers’ FAQ’s on Kosher fish].&amp;quot; Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America, 2004. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Also, Dr. Macht's classification of swans as kosher is in accordance with the research done at Ohr Somayach Institutions in Jerusalem, Israel.&amp;lt;ref name=ask1&amp;gt;&amp;quot;[http://ohr.edu/ask/ask210.htm Ask the Rabbi - Are swans kosher]?&amp;quot; Ohr Somayach Website, Ohr.edu, October 24, 1998. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Furthermore, Dr. Macht states in the peer reviewed journal ''Science'' that the toxicology test he used was a reliable method for detecting zoological toxins as it was a toxicology test sensitive to these type of toxins, and therefore one could conclude it was also suitable for testing the toxicity levels of fish, meat, and poultry.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht3&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. , Science 1930, 71 :302&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; (The toxicological method that Dr. Macht used was also cited in the Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht2&amp;gt;Macht, D.I. and Macht, M.B. ''Journal of Laboratory and Clinical Medicine'' 1941, 26: 597&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;) In addition, Dr. Macht was an expert in cobra venom, which is a zoological toxin. Macht's conclusions, however, were challenged by three of his science community peers in a Seventh Day Adventist publication although one partially affirmed his study.&amp;lt;ref name=Harris&amp;gt;Harris, Lester E., Jr. &amp;quot;[https://archive.is/20070709234205/members.dslextreme.com/users/hollymick/web/ministry-1954-March-p37.htm This Question of Unclean Meats].&amp;quot; Ministry Magazine, March 1953, p37-38. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This was partly due to a likely unfamiliarity with what food is kosher and non-kosher. Also, perhaps they were unfamiliar with the toxicity test Dr. Macht used, and its apparent effectiveness in testing zoological toxins.&lt;br /&gt;
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In the short term, eating non-kosher food often appears to have no dramatic ill effects in general. For example, the Arabs, who do not eat kosher, consider camel to be a delicacy. Clearly, non-kosher Arabs do not fall dead right after eating camel meat. However, the long term optimality of eating clean versus unclean meat is an unanswered question of science. Also, eating non-kosher foods clearly has some nutritional benefit. For example, shrimp and pork contain protein. The New Testament declares, {{Bible quote|For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5|version=NKJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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In regard to the aforementioned verse, it could be argued that prayer does sanctify food. The Bible has plenty of verses regarding God's protection. Also, it could be argued that the benefits outweigh the costs in all foods and thus all food is good. Clearly there is  some nutritional goodness in foods that the Torah declared unclean (for example, shrimp has protein).  What foods are optimal from an empirically tested science viewpoint is often controversial. In short, in regard to eating strictly a kosher diet versus a non-kosher diet, science has no definitive answers at the present time. From a Christian theological point of view, it could be argued that food should not be an impediment to anyone making a decision to become a Christian. It should be noted that orthodox Christian believers in Biblical scientific foreknowledge believe that Christians can eat the food that was declared unclean in the Old Testament, and {{Bible ref|book=1_Timothy|chap=4|verses=4-5}} and {{Bible ref|book=Galations|chap=2|verses=7-16}} make this very clear.&lt;br /&gt;
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In addition to the aforementioned study testing kosher and non-kosher foods for toxicity levels, Macht developed evidence indicating that combining meat and milk tended to be more toxic than either foodstuff alone.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4&amp;gt;David I. Macht, Medical Leaves 1940; 3:174-184&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  In addition, he compared conventional animal slaughtering versus kosher slaughtering and determined that kosher slaughtering produced less toxic meat.&amp;lt;ref name=Macht4/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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A 1985 study by Nanji and French found that there was a significant correlation between cirrhosis and pork consumption (Macht claimed that swine was more toxic than the animal meat the Bible called clean).&amp;lt;ref name=Nanji&amp;gt;Nanji AA, and French SW. &amp;quot;[http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&amp;amp;db=PubMed&amp;amp;list_uids=2858627&amp;amp;dopt=Abstract Relationship between pork consumption and cirrhosis].&amp;quot; ''Lancet'' 1985 Mar 23, 1(8430):681-3. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Modern pork production methods are different from ancient methods of raising pigs, so the result of this study might be hard to apply to the ancients or those who raise pigs by organic farming methods, without the use of hormones or antibiotics.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jane Cahill reported in ''Biblical Archaeological Review'' that the toilets of a Jewish household in [[Jerusalem]] were examined and no [[parasite]]s or infectious agents were found.&amp;lt;ref name=Cahill&amp;gt;[http://cojs.org/cojswiki/It_Had_to_Happen,_Jane_M._Cahill,_Karl_Reinhard,_David_Tarler_and_Peter_Warnock,_BAR_17:03,_May/Jun_1991. It had to happen, Scientist Examines Ancient Bathrooms of Romans 586 B.C.] by Jane Cahill and Peter Warnock. BAR May/June 1991&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Today, some &amp;quot;alternative medicine&amp;quot; practitioners do not recommend pork to their patients. Their reasons include the possible content of hormones, antibiotics, and pesticides, and also the undiscriminating diet of the pig. Joseph Mercola, DO, who has a private practice in alternative general medicine, writes:{{cquote|Pigs are scavenger animals and will eat just about anything. Their appetite for less-than-wholesome foods makes pigs a breeding ground for potentially dangerous infections. Even cooking pork for long periods is not enough to kill many of the retroviruses and other parasites that many of them harbor.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola&amp;gt;Mercola, Joseph, DO, ed. &amp;quot;[http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/07/12/are-there-deadly-superbugs-in-your-pork.aspx?source=nl Are There Deadly Superbugs In Your Pork]?&amp;quot; &amp;lt;http://www.mercola.com/&amp;gt;, July 12, 2008. Accessed September 12, 2008.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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Dr. Mercola does not even recommend pasture-raised pork, because wild boars will often infect herds of pork with [[Trichinella spiralis]] or other parasites.&amp;lt;ref name=Mercola/&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Feasibility of abiogenesis===&lt;br /&gt;
Although scientists dismissed ideas involving [[abiogenesis]], or the process from which life emerges from non-living material, as nothing more than archaic beliefs in [[spontaneous generation]], the Bible very clearly depicts an occurrence of this phenomenon, for beginning in Genesis 1:20, God creates life from nothing. It was not until the early 20th century that science finally began to accept the viability of abiogenesis, a view that the Bible had held for almost 2000 years, except that [[atheists]] falsely claim that abiogenesis is somehow possible without a creator. For addition information, please see [http://creation.com/origin-of-life origin of life]&lt;br /&gt;
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===Awareness while unborn===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Abortion]] advocates argue that it is ok to terminate a baby while dismissing the pain inflicted by ending an innocent life. They argue that a fetus cannot feel pain because senses are incomplete. There is a heart-beating human in the womb that can feel even though still unborn and developing. In modern times, we now know the baby in the womb is alert, aware of their mother's emotions, recognizes voices, responds to stimuli and music. The Bible tells us the baby feels (1 Luke 44), ''&amp;quot;the babe leaps for joy in Elizabeth’s womb at the sound of Mary’s voice.&amp;quot;'' The inwomb developing baby, John the Baptist, notices the presence of the unborn [[Lord]] in [[Mary]], and is excited. In addition (St. Paul to the Galatians 1:15), ''&amp;quot;God… from my mother’s womb had set me apart and called me through his grace.&amp;quot;'' Paul's very first thought, feeling awareness, began while unborn.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Embalming===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Mark 9-16 (Translated)#Chapter 14|Mark 14:3-8]] describes an embalming process to preserve a body after death, which was not discovered in the West until 1867.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Significance of blood===&lt;br /&gt;
The Old Testament teaches that the [[life]] of all flesh is its [[blood]] ({{Bible ref|book=Leviticus|chap=17|verses=13-14|version=KJV}}).  Secular science remained ignorant of the properties and circulation of blood until the 17th century A.D.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12_notes.htm Net Bible: Notes] to [http://wap.bible.org/nbw/deu12.htm#1234 Deuteronomy 12:23] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Menstruation===&lt;br /&gt;
The Biblical laws concerning [[menstruation]], including the setting apart of the menstruating woman and the prohibition on intimacy during menstruation, address health concerns that were not known to secular science until the 20th century.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Neuburger, Max 1910, p. 38&amp;quot;&amp;gt;Neuburger, Max. History of Medicine. Oxford University Press, 1910, Vol. I, p. 38.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Also, modern science has only very recently discovered that following such rules dramatically reduces the rate of illegitimacy.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2012/06/120604182027.htm How Religion Promotes Confidence About Paternity]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cloning===&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bible ref|book=Genesis|chap=2|verses=21-22|version=KJV}} records that God made a [[woman]] out of one of [[Adam]]'s [[rib]]s.  Secular scientists did not believe that [[cloning]] such a complex organism (apart from plants) was possible until 1997.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.ornl.gov/sci/techresources/Human_Genome/elsi/cloning.shtml Cloning Fact Sheet] {{dead link}}&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; It should be noted, however, that this is not strictly 'cloning' as a clone would be identical to its original, most obviously in terms of its sex.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Common X Chromosome===&lt;br /&gt;
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Women have the same X chromosome as men, but this was not discovered until the late 1800s.  The Book of Genesis explained this thousands years earlier, describing how the first woman was created directly from man.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Inbreeding===&lt;br /&gt;
Leviticus 18:7-11 elaborates in detail the relationships it regards as incestuous unions, to forbid inbreeding. While the effects of inbreeding were apparent to ancient observers, geneticists were able to scientifically explain the mechanisms and risks of inbreeding only in modern times.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Distance of Oldest Star to Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Genesis implies that the distance of the oldest star to Earth is how far light would travel during the age of mankind: about 6000 light-years.  In 2014, a team of researchers discovered that the oldest star is indeed only 6000 light-years away.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/6012/the-oldest-star-in-the-known-universe&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Planet formation===&lt;br /&gt;
Theories of an old universe insisted that planet formation did not occur until long after the origin of the universe, contrary to the [[Book of Genesis]].  But in 2012 scientists announced the existence of planets that formed &amp;quot;at dawn of universe.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0330/Planets-found-at-dawn-of-universe-but-their-existence-is-a-mystery&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Extraterrestrial life===&lt;br /&gt;
For most of the 20th century, scientists typically believed in the existence of extraterrestrial life, despite the lack of any reference to it in the Bible. After spending many billions of dollars looking for such life, and investigating countless reports of UFOs, no such life has been found.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Starlight Problem===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Starlight Problem]] confounds atheistic theories about the universe:  light has reached us from stars that are too far away to transmit the light within the age of the universe.  But the Book of Genesis explains this easily:  &amp;quot;let there be light&amp;quot; means that God created light, not merely stars. &lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly refers to the number of stars as being innumerable,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''See'' Genesis 15:5, Jeremiah 33:22 and Hebrews 11:12.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; despite scientists insisting throughout most of history that there were only about 6000 stars. In the early 17th century [[Galileo]] turned a telescope to the heavens and discovered a great number of stars that had been previously invisible to the naked eye.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://galileo.rice.edu/lib/student_work/astronomy95/orionpleiades.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Not until the 20th century did scientists discover the tremendous number of stars:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/space/07/22/stars.survey/index.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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But even that scientific estimate was much too low.  On December 1, 2010, scientists admitted:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2010/1201/Universe-might-hold-three-times-more-stars-than-previously-thought&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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:&amp;quot;a cosmic embarrassment of riches – ''the universe appears to hold three times the number of stars many [[astronomer]]s might have estimated only a year ago''.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Although the use of telescopes to chart the outer-reaches of God's heavenly creation was developed around the 16th century in Europe, the Bible accurately hypothesized that every star is unique.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Spherical Sun and Earth===&lt;br /&gt;
The Book of Isaiah establishes that the true shape of the earth is a sphere:&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|He sits above the sphere of the earth, and its inhabitants look to him like grasshoppers.  He stretches out the galaxies like a curtain, spreading them out like a tent to live under: - [[Isaiah 34-42 (Translated)#Chapter 40|Isaiah 40:22 (CBP]])}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The Book of Isaiah was written circa the 8th century BC, and the Book of Proverbs even earlier.  This was centuries before Greek philosophers, beginning with [[Pythagoras]], theorized the earth was round, and it was not discovered until 2012 that the sun is perfectly spherical.  Astronomers were not able to conclude until well into the second millennium of [[Christ]] that the Earth is also a sphere.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earth free floating in space===&lt;br /&gt;
The book of Job states that God &amp;quot;hangs the [[Earth]] on nothing.&amp;quot; It also contrasts with Greek Mythology's belief that [[Atlas]] holds up the Earth, or ancient Hindu and Native American myths that the Earth was on top of a gigantic turtle.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible presaged the modern view that space is in fact empty, which wasn't known until the dawn of the 20th century when ether theories became disfavored.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Cosmic Background Radiation===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis Chapter 1]] explains that God created light first, rather than merely stars.  A &amp;quot;big bang&amp;quot; would result in light everywhere, without darkness, and without ripples in cosmic background radiation.  Yet in the 21st century ripples were discovered in cosmic background radiation, which can only be plausibly explained by recognizing that light was created first.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Meteoroids===&lt;br /&gt;
The Revelation of Saint John notes, &lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|And the second angel sounded, and as it were a great mountain burning with fire was cast into the sea: and the third part of the sea became blood; And the third part of the creatures which were in the sea, and had life, died; and the third part of the ships were destroyed. Revelation 8:8-9 (KJV)}}&lt;br /&gt;
This accurately describes meteoroids, essentially large chunks of rock lit on fire by the shock of entering the earth's atmosphere.  They were not discovered until 1801, and their composition was not otherwise known until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Stellar proper movement===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Job]], a list of challenges are constructed in the form of questions, with the idea that man can't do it, but God can. Among these challenges, two are remarkable: one mentions the ''untying'' of Orion's belt, and the other is the ''binding'' of the Pleiades. Only recently, astronomers could measure the proper movement of those stars; Orion's belt is moving apart, with each star going in a different direction, while the Pleiades are moving together.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Space flight===&lt;br /&gt;
Many theorize that the book of [[Ezekiel]] contains descriptions of spaceships and rockets, as they would have been described by someone thousands of years ago. [http://www.spaceshipsofezekiel.com/ Author Blumrich] has even published an entire book about this.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Expanding universe===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible explains, in 17 different verses, that God &amp;quot;stretched out&amp;quot; the heavens,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.creationists.org/God-streched-out-the-universe-bible-verses.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; in other words, expanding the fabric of space-time from a smaller size to a much larger one. Scientists have discovered only in the last 100 years that, by studying the red shift of galaxies, the universe indeed appears to be expanding, or &amp;quot;stretching out.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Water cycle, and the Six days of Creation Week===&lt;br /&gt;
The existence of the water cycle was widely unknown to pagan people's until imperial Roman times. But the Bible described the water cycle over a thousand years before that. In general, see [[Ecclesiastes]] 11:3, [[Job]] 26:8 and [[Amos]] 9:6.&lt;br /&gt;
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There may be a more Biblically central reference to the water cycle: The reports in Genesis 1 of five things that God names (v. 5=two, v. 8=one, v. 10=two) seem to be consistent with five basic features of the geophysical half of Earth's life-support cycle. In Earth sciences, it is known that the total life-support cycle is irreducibly complex in relation to Earth's distance to the Sun, and this complexity maintained on an order of mere days' reserve: flora and fauna are interdependent, their interaction is necessary for the maintenance of the atmosphere, and if any one of those five features suddenly ceased, Earth would fail to support life in a matter of days.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Immense power within atoms alluded to in 2 Peter chapter 3 ===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Image:Abomb.jpg|thumbnail|right|200px|The [[atomic bomb]] that was dropped on [[Hiroshima]] unleashed the equivalent of about 15 kilotons of TNT.]]&lt;br /&gt;
The immense power within atoms is alluded to in the Bible in 2 Peter chapter 3.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; &lt;br /&gt;
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Daniel White III declares:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|John Phillips notes that Peter’s prophecy of a great, end-times conflagration of the earth and its atmosphere uses precise terminology that accurately describes a nuclear explosion. Liddell and Scott’s Lexicon define the “elements” as “the components into which matter is divided” (or atoms), and the term “dissolved” comes from the basic Greek word meaning to “loose” that which is bound (as in nuclear fission). The term “great noise” is found nowhere else in the New Testament and signifies “a rushing sound of roaring flames.” The term “fervent heat” is derived from a Greek medical term denoting a fever. But Peter’s use of it in application to inanimate objects is the only such known usage anywhere in Greek literature. Thus, Phillips observes, “Peter describes in accurate terms the untying of the atom and the resulting rushing, fiery destruction which follows it.”&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;bcnn1wp.wordpress.com&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[https://bcnn1wp.wordpress.com/2015/11/10/listen-breaking-prophecy-news-the-world-at-war-part-3-the-prophet-daniels-report-568-with-daniel-whyte-iii/ LISTEN: Breaking Prophecy News; The World at War, Part 3 (The Prophet Daniel’s Report #568 with Daniel Whyte III)]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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===Impossibility of a Grand Unified Theory===&lt;br /&gt;
Billions of dollars and millions of hours have been wasted by scientists in futile pursuit of a &amp;quot;grand unified theory&amp;quot; for physics.  But [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)#Chapter 1|Genesis]] explains that the creation of light was done in a separate, initial creation, free of darkness or entropy, and thus incapable of theoretical unification with matter. &lt;br /&gt;
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===Light and color===&lt;br /&gt;
Prior to the work of [[Isaac Newton]], white was considered to be the fundamental color of light, and other colors (such as red, green and blue) were formed by adding to white light.  Under that traditional theory, the fullness of all light (a combination of all colors of light) would result in something other than pure white.&lt;br /&gt;
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The transfiguration of Jesus is described with remarkable consistency in all three synoptic [[Gospel]]s: in the fullness of light Jesus and his clothing display an intense white, whiter than any bleach could produce.  This illustrates what was not discovered and accepted until nearly 1700 years later: that white is the combination of other fundamental colors, and the purest white light is formed by a perfectly full combination (see [[Prism]]).&lt;br /&gt;
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===Action-at-a-distance===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Jesus]] demonstrated [[action-at-a-distance]], as recounted in [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]].  Scientists, particularly [[atheists]], denied the possibility of this phenomenon for thousands of years.  When Newton proposed action-at-a-distance as the basis of gravity, scientists continued to reject it, but eventually accepted it as being true.&lt;br /&gt;
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Later the [[Theory of Relativity]] again denied the possibility of action-at-a-distance, but [[quantum mechanics]] subsequently proved that it does occur.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See also [[Counterexamples to Relativity]].&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Quantum mechanics===&lt;br /&gt;
The fundamental principle of [[quantum mechanics]] is that the underlying reality is in random fluctuation, or chaos, until there is intelligent observation of it.  This is precisely what [[Luke 1-8 (Translated)#Luke 4:6|Luke 4:6]] reveals when it quotes the [[devil]] in saying that he has dominion over this world.&lt;br /&gt;
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The world was an abyss of chaos at the moment of creation, as explained in the [[Book of Genesis]].  The order created by God is on a foundation of uncertainty.  The discovery of this in subatomic particles in the 1900s, known as quantum mechanics, confirms the nature of the world as described in Genesis.&lt;br /&gt;
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The Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff, Matthew 13:24-30, describes a fundamental uncertainty that does not resolve itself until there is observation over time.  The authenticity of a simpler explanation of this parable at Matthew 13:36-43 has been challenged.  The parable may refer to a profound and pervasive chaotic struggle between good and evil, or in quantum mechanics the uncertainty in position and energy.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Observation of the wave function====&lt;br /&gt;
The second chapter of the [[Gospel of John]] describes the conversion of water into wine by [[Jesus]] at a wedding reception. [[John 1-7 (Translated)#Chapter 2|John 2:9]] states: &amp;quot;When the host of the wedding feast tasted the water, it had been made into wine.&amp;quot; This passage implies that the drink was not wine until it had been tasted, or observed. The drink was a superposition of the state of wine and the state of water until it was observed as wine.&lt;br /&gt;
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In Matthew 16:19, Jesus draws a then-unusual distinction between what is fixed and what is uncertain by declaring, &amp;quot;Whatever you make binding on earth will be binding in heaven, and whatever you set loose on earth will be set loose in heaven.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Matthew_10-19_%28Translated%29&amp;amp;oldid=870778#Chapter_16&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  This may describe the fundamental uncertainty that continues unless and until there is human observation that then causes the wave function to collapse into a particular (&amp;quot;bound&amp;quot;) state.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle====&lt;br /&gt;
Both the Old and New Testaments refer to a fundamental [[uncertainty]] that requires observation to resolve, akin to the [[Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle]] discovered in the 1920s:&lt;br /&gt;
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* &amp;quot;The earth came to exist in an utterly formless and empty state.&amp;quot; -- [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 1:2]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;The master refusing to order the removal of the weeds sowed among the wheat because of the uncertainty in distinguishing between the two until later.&amp;quot; -- [[Matthew 10-19 (Translated)|Matthew 13:24-30]].&lt;br /&gt;
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====Wave-particle duality====&lt;br /&gt;
Wave-particle duality, first discovered in the 20th century, allows for a particle to sometimes be subject to gravity and sometimes not.&lt;br /&gt;
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The wave-particle duality was described nearly 2000 years earlier in the Gospel account of Jesus walking on water: [[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:45-54]].  A close reading of the passage reveals the wave-like (or light-like) characteristic of the walking on water:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[[Mark 1-8 (Translated)|Mark 6:48-49]] (italics added).&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|he walked on the surface of the lake and came to the boat, ''nearly passing it''.  But when they saw him walking on water, they thought it must have been ''a ghost'', and cried out.}}&lt;br /&gt;
In a more general sense, Jesus could be viewed as the &amp;quot;particle&amp;quot; and the [[Holy Spirit]] as the &amp;quot;wave&amp;quot; of God.  A fuller understanding of the [[Trinity]] could have opened the eyes of scientists much earlier to the fundamental wave-particle duality of nature ... '''''and still could'''''.&lt;br /&gt;
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====Quantum tunneling====&lt;br /&gt;
[[Quantum tunneling]] is the ability of particles to move through energy barriers even though ostensibly impossible based on classical laws of mechanical physics.  This was not discovered by scientists until the 20th century.&lt;br /&gt;
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Jesus proved this was possible in [[John 15-21 (Translated)#Chapter 20|John 20:26]], when he appeared before the [[Apostles]] in a closed room with completely shut doors.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Classical relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
Romans 10:6-7: But the righteousness that is by faith says: &amp;quot;Do not say in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ down) 7&amp;quot;or 'Who will descend into the deep?'&amp;quot; (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).&lt;br /&gt;
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Equating ascending into heaven to bringing Christ down is an example of the fact that there is no universal reference frame, and only relative speeds matter.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Modern relativity===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Theory of Relativity]] denies the possibility of action-at-a-distance.  But several passages in the Bible, such as [[John 1-7 (Translated)|John 4:46-54]] and [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)|Matthew 27:51]], describe simultaneous actions from afar.&lt;br /&gt;
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The list of [[Counterexamples to Relativity]] has grown recently, and modern experiments in quantum mechanics have confirmed action-at-a-distance.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Second Law of Thermodynamics===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Book of Genesis]] states that the darkness or chaos in the universe can never overcome the light, or order.  This same concept was not discovered in physics until the development of the [[Second Law of Thermodynamics]], which holds that heat (or order or light) always travels in the direction of cold (or disorder or darkness), and never in the opposite direction.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Epistle to the Hebrews (Translated)#1:10-11|Hebrews 1:10-11]] explains that the universe shall &amp;quot;wear out&amp;quot; like a &amp;quot;garment&amp;quot;, centuries before the discovery of the physical law that [[entropy]] is always increasing.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nature of air===&lt;br /&gt;
Until about 300 years ago, common knowledge believe that the air was &amp;quot;empty&amp;quot; and didn't weigh anything. But [[Job]] 28:25 states, &amp;quot;To establish a '''weight''' for the wind, And apportion the waters by measure&amp;quot; indicating that the divinely inspired author knew the air had substance and weight.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Conservative forces===&lt;br /&gt;
James 1:17 describes the electromagnetic forces (light) as having no &amp;quot;shadow of turning.&amp;quot;  Not understood for nearly 2000 years, this predicts that electromagnetic forces are [[conservative]] such that their [[line integrals]] over a closed loop are zero.&lt;br /&gt;
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==Mathematics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See main article: [[Math and the Bible]]''&lt;br /&gt;
===Zero===&lt;br /&gt;
Mathematicians in Western Europe did not discover [[zero]] until many centuries after the Bible was written.  But there are hundreds of references to the concept of zero throughout the Bible.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Banach-Tarski Paradox===&lt;br /&gt;
The only miracle described in all four [[Gospels]] is the multiplication of loaves and fish by Jesus, thought for thousands of years to be a mathematical and physical impossibility.  But the 20th century discovery of the so-called [[Banach-Tarski Paradox]] proved a mathematical basis for creating identical copies of an object out of no extra material.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Axiomatization of Arithmetic===&lt;br /&gt;
The full set of axioms for integer arithmetic may be found in the Bible.  For example, [[Luke 9-16 (Translated)|Luke 12:52]] is a striking statement of the commutative law for addition: &amp;quot;For from this point forward there will be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three.&amp;quot;  This understanding presaged both later attempts at the axiomatization of arithmetic by Peano and the development of [[abstract algebra]] in the 19th and 20th centuries.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Infinity===&lt;br /&gt;
Most thinkers scoffed at the concept of [[infinity]] for thousands of years, despite it being referenced in the Bible in many ways.  See, e.g., Psalm 147:4-6 (God's &amp;quot;understanding is infinte&amp;quot;); [[Matthew 20-28 (Translated)#20:1|Matthew 20:1-14]] ([[parable]] of the wages for the workers in the vineyard); Matthew 16:26 (one's soul has an infinite value to him, and nothing else can be worth more).&lt;br /&gt;
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But [[Georg Cantor]], deeply inspired by [[Christianity]], established a logical foundation for infinity that revolutionized all of mathematics as a result, with his development of [[set theory]] to accomplish his goal.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Calculus===&lt;br /&gt;
The Bible emphasizes the importance of limits as a key distinction between this world and God; Calculus consists of relying on limits to derive useful results.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.aiias.edu/ict/vol_27/27cc_225-239.htm Norie Grace Rivera-Poblete: &amp;quot;''God and Calculus''&amp;quot;], Institute for Christian Teaching Education Department of [[Seventh-day Adventist]], Prepared for the 27th International Faith and Learning Seminar held at Mission, Muak Lek Saraburi, Thailand December 3 – 15, 2000&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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James 1:17 states that the first and second derivatives of God's light (truth) is zero, more than 1600 years before calculus was discovered: &amp;quot;with [God] there is no variation or shadow of turning.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;Shadow%252525252525252520of%252525252525252520Turning&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com/2011/02/24/no-variation-or-shadow-of-turning-calculus-in-the-bible/ Nathan Albright: ''&amp;quot;No Variation Or Shadow Of Turning: Calculus In The Bible&amp;quot;''], Blog-Entry, Feb 24, 2011&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Arithmetic with Negative Numbers===&lt;br /&gt;
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Negative numbers were not fully accepted by mathematicians until the 1800s,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://nrich.maths.org/5961&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; including how a negative number dominates the result in multiplication with a positive number, to yield a negative outcome.  Yet Jesus' parable of the sower and the seed, in Matthew 13:1-23, Mark 4:1-8, and Luke 8:4-8, explained the same effect nearly 2000 years earlier.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Indeterminacy ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The Bible repeatedly emphasizes that God is &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  See Job 5:9 (God &amp;quot;does great things and unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 26:1 (&amp;quot;God's Majesty Is Unsearchable&amp;quot;); Job 36:26 (&amp;quot;Behold, God is great, and we know him not; the number of his years is unsearchable.&amp;quot;) Psalm 145:3 (&amp;quot;Great is the Lord, and greatly to be praised, and his greatness is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Proverbs 25:3 (&amp;quot;As the heavens for height, and the earth for depth, so the heart of kings is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Isaiah 40:28 (&amp;quot;Have you not known? Have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God, the Creator of the ends of the earth. He does not faint or grow weary; his understanding is unsearchable.&amp;quot;); Romans 11:33 (&amp;quot;Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!&amp;quot;)' Ephesians 3:8 (&amp;quot;to preach to the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ&amp;quot;).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;All quotations are to the ESV of the Bible.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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John 1:1 teaches that logic is part of God, and thus logic itself must also be &amp;quot;unsearchable&amp;quot;.  For many decades the finest mathematicians thought that the consistency of logic could be proven, until [[Kurt Godel]] (himself a frequent reader of the Bible) proved the indeterminacy, or &amp;quot;unsearchability&amp;quot;, of mathematics.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Trolls===&lt;br /&gt;
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The existence of malicious trolls on the internet is difficult to understand, until one reads Matthew 13:24-30 - the Parable of the Wheat and the Chaff.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Crime===&lt;br /&gt;
Mark 4:22 says how nothing can be hid, neither can anything be kept secret. Empirical statistics show that the vast majority of crimes worldwide are solved.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Morality of animals===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Genesis 1-8 (Translated)|Genesis 3:1-10]] explains that only humans understand good and evil, and clothe themselves because of it.  Repeatedly scientists have attempted to demonstrate that animals can understand morality also, but every attempt has failed.  No animal (other than humans) has ever been found that clothes itself. However, as limited case, animals do demonstrate altruistic behavior.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Existence of dinosaurs===&lt;br /&gt;
[[Dinosaur]] fossils were not discovered until the 19th century, but the book of Job describes enormous creatures called behemoth and leviathan, the descriptions being similar to dinosaurs and other prehistoric creatures.  It may also have referred to another similarly giant now-extinct species. Other dinosaur like creatures mentioned are the cockatrice and satyr &amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v15/i2/behemoth.asp&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Killing methods of lions===&lt;br /&gt;
Until the 1970s naturalists believed that lions killed their prey by biting through the neck or by breaking the neck with a swat of a paw, while the Bible says that lions suffocated their prey. (Nahum 2:12) It was not until the 1970s that it was discovered that the [[Bible]] was correct.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BLions87.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Lions fit their mouth over the mouth and nose of their prey and hold it while it suffocates, in addition to other killing methods.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Giant sea creatures and Jonah===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[Jonah (Translated)|Book of Jonah]] describes his survival in the belly of a giant sea creature for 2.5 to 3 days.  Scientists declared this to be impossible due to powerful stomach acids that quickly break down any material and the lack of breathable air inside marine animals.&lt;br /&gt;
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In 2010, scientists found the following materials intact in the belly of a gray whale that had died after being stranded on a Northwest beach:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/19/pair-sweat-pants-garbage-beached-whales-stomach/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Of course, many sea creatures have gone extinct in the thousands of years since Jonah lived.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Gender of worker ants===&lt;br /&gt;
Proverbs 6:6-8 correctly states the sex of worker [[ant]]s (female), using the correct one of the two [[Grammar#Gender|grammatical genders]] available in Biblical [[Hebrew]].  Secular entomologists would not discover that fact until the 19th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://books.google.com/books?id=rzwSAAAAYAAJ&amp;amp;pg=PA6&amp;amp;dq=ant+undeveloped+female+worker+date:1700-1850&amp;amp;lr=&amp;amp;as_brr=0&amp;amp;as_pt=ALLTYPES#v=onepage&amp;amp;q&amp;amp;f=false The study of medicine, Volume 5 By John Mason Good]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Harvester ants ===&lt;br /&gt;
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19th century [[Europe]]an naturalists were wrong about [[ant]] behavior - namely the issue of ants/harvesting (Harvester ants). The Bible was correct about ant behavior.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://ed5015.tripod.com/BWilliamsvsAnon71to73.htm&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Hearing and snakes ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The scientific consensus and the ''Encyclopedia Britannica'' both indicated that snakes can't hear.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/snake-charming-and-bible-accuracy  Charmed, I’m sure!] by Calvin Smith&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://ed5015.tripod.com/BCobra94.htm The Cobra and the Bible]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The Bible said that snakes can hear. 21st century research showed that snakes can hear.&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Vegetarian lion ===&lt;br /&gt;
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The prophet Isaiah says that there will be a time when the [[lion]] will lay down with the lamb and the lion will eat straw like the ox (Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25). There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:8790lion-wont-eat-meat.jpg|thumbnail|200px|right|There was a vegetarian lion named Little Tyke that refused to eat meat.&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;]]&lt;br /&gt;
David Catchpoole wrote at the website of [[Creation Ministries International]]:&lt;br /&gt;
{{Cquote|From 1946 to 1955, A female African lion, born and raised in America, lived her entire lifetime of nine years without ever eating meat.1 In fact, her owners, Georges and Margaret Westbeau,2 alarmed by scientists’ reports that carnivorous animals cannot live without meat, went to great lengths to try to coax their unusual pet (‘Little Tyke’) to develop a taste for it. They even advertised a cash reward for anyone who could devise a meat-containing formula that the lioness would like. The curator of a New York zoo advised the Westbeaus that putting a few drops of blood in Little Tyke’s milk bottle would help in weaning her, but the lioness cub refused to touch it—even when only a single drop of blood had been added.&lt;br /&gt;
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The more knowledgeable animal experts among the many visitors to the Westbeaus’ 100 acre (40 hectare) ranch also proffered advice, but nothing worked. Meanwhile, Little Tyke continued to do extremely well on a daily diet of cooked grain, raw eggs and milk. By four years of age she was fully grown and weighed 352 pounds (160 kg)...&lt;br /&gt;
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Mr Westbeau’s observation of the lioness that ‘To condition her stomach she would spend an hour at a time eating the succulent tall grass in the fields’, is also a vivid reminder of the prophecies of Isaiah 11:7 and 65:25, ‘ … the lion will eat straw like the ox.’&amp;lt;ref name=&amp;quot;The lion who would not eat meat&amp;quot;&amp;gt;[http://creation.com/the-lion-that-wouldnt-eat-meat The lion who would not eat meat]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;}}&lt;br /&gt;
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==Linguistics==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:The Tower of Babel by Pieter Bruegel the Elder, 1563.jpg|thumb|350px|The Tower of Babel by [[Pieter Bruegel the Elder]], 1563.]]&lt;br /&gt;
===Common descent theory===&lt;br /&gt;
The [[theory of evolution]] suggests that all languages are descended from a common ancestral language, and for a century (1860 to about 1960) scientists clung to that view.  But now most linguists identify many different families of languages that have no common ancestor, just as described in Genesis 11 with the [[Tower of Babel]].&lt;br /&gt;
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===Earliest Hebrew writings===&lt;br /&gt;
Skeptics have claimed that [[Hebrew]] writing did not exist before the 6th century B.C.  But a recent Israeli archaeological dig dated four centuries earlier, in the 10th century B.C., included an artifact found at Khirbet Qeiyafa in the Elah Valley.  This artifact contained a written inscription in Hebrew relating to &amp;quot;slaves, widows and orphans.&amp;quot; Haifa University Professor Gershon Galil noted that this disproves the theory that the Bible could not have been written before the 6th century.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2010/01/08/Bible-may-be-centuries-older-than-thought/UPI-21171262997765/&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Economics==&lt;br /&gt;
===Poverty===&lt;br /&gt;
Jesus stated that there will always be poverty,&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Mark 14:7, Matthew 26:11 and John 12.8.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; yet [[liberals]] repeatedly insist that poverty can be eliminated with more government spending.  Every attempt to eliminate poverty has failed just as Jesus predicted. In 1991 [[Ronald Coase]] won a [[Nobel Prize]] in [[Economics]] for the [[Coase Theorem]], which implies that government attempts to reduced poverty will interfere with efficient operation of the economy, and thereby reduce wealth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Socialism and Capitalism===&lt;br /&gt;
Ecclesiastes 5:18-19 says that [[capitalism]] is a gift from God:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;Behold that which I have seen: it is good and comely for one to eat and to drink, and to enjoy the good of all his labour that he taketh under the sun all the days of his life, which God give the him: for it is his portion. Every man also to whom God hath given riches and wealth, and hath given him power to eat thereof, and to take his portion, and to rejoice in his labour; this is the gift of God.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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Similarly, Ecclesiastes 6:1-2 condemns [[socialism]]:&lt;br /&gt;
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&amp;quot;There is an evil which I have seen under the sun, and it is common among men: A man to whom God hath given riches, wealth, and honour, so that he wanteth nothing for his soul of all that he desireth, yet God giveth him not power to eat thereof, but a stranger eateth it: this is vanity, and it is an evil disease.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Government and Politics==&lt;br /&gt;
''See also [[Biblical political foreknowledge]]''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Nation-state===&lt;br /&gt;
Ancient Israel, as described in the [[Old Testament]], was a [[nation-state]] and that model was not utilized again until thousands of years later, well after the Renaissance in Western Europe.  This model of a nation-state has become the modern standard worldwide.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Separation of Powers===&lt;br /&gt;
The separation of powers adopted successfully by the [[U.S. Constitution]] in 1787, with the legislative, executive, and judicial branches having separate authority and jurisdiction, was first described in the Old Testament.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;See Jeremiah 17:19 and Isaiah 33:22.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Liberal influence on the media===&lt;br /&gt;
The Third [[Three Temptations of Christ|Temptation of Christ]] is to bow down and worship the [[Satan]] in exchange for becoming ruler of the world.  The media plays that role and its influence is predictably liberal and anti-[[Christian]].&lt;br /&gt;
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==Engineering==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge about these engineering developments has been proposed:&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2191&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
{{cquote|automobiles (Joel 2:3-4); airplanes (Isaiah 31:5, also 40:31); submarines (Revelation 9:1-11); radio (Ecclesiastes 10:20); and television (Revelation 11:3-12)}}&lt;br /&gt;
Classical photography, using negative imaging, was predated by the [[Shroud of Turin]] with respect to the imaging on the Shroud likely due to the light of the [[Resurrection]]. The Shroud ([[Greek]]: σινδών - sindón)  is mentioned in three Gospels: Matthew 27:59, Mark 15:46, Luke 23:53, while John 20:5-7 talks about a face cloth or napkin ([[Greek]]: σουδάριον - soudárion - perhaps the [[Sudarium of Oviedo]]), and a piece of fine linen ([[Greek]]: ὀθόνιον - othonion). The description by the eyewitness John implies that his sighting of the Shroud may have confirmed his [[faith]], though he doesn't mention its photograph-like image.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;John Calvin, who opposed the Catholic Church, wrote a book in 1543 criticizing all material evidence of Jesus and the martyrs.  In it he claimed that because the negative image on the Shroud is not described in the Gospels, it must not be authentic. [[John Calvin]]: ''Traité des Reliques'', Geneve 1543, translated by Valerian Krasinski: ''A treatise on Relics'', Edingburgh 1854&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Alleged &amp;quot;contradictions&amp;quot;==&lt;br /&gt;
Biblical scientific foreknowledge is an underpinning of creation science, and is widely credited by Christian scientists and apologists, including the organizations [[Creation Ministries International]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://creation.com/modern-medicine Creation Ministries International on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; [[Answers in Genesis]],&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.answersingenesis.org/creation/v17/i1/medicine.asp Answers in Genesis on &amp;quot;Modern&amp;quot; Medicine&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and [[CreationWiki]].&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://creationwiki.org/index.php/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge  Bible Scientific Foreknowledge]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Atheists and liberals unsuccessfully attempt to discredit the Bible based on science.  Here are some examples:&lt;br /&gt;
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===Value of Pi===&lt;br /&gt;
Two sections of the Bible (1 Kings 7, 23-26, 2 Chronicles, 4, 2-5) appear to indicate that the correct value of [[Pi]] is 3, whereas Pi is, in fact, an irrational number, equalling approximately 3.14159. Atheists, including [[Sam Harris]] and [[Richard Dawkins]], allege that this value indicates the fallacious nature of scripture.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://richarddawkins.net/articles/139 The Richard Dawkins Foundation, ''Reply to a Christian'', Sam Harris -]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; However, a simple explanation of the claimed &amp;quot;contradiction&amp;quot; is that the Bible records the ratio of the actual object which Hiram created, not that of a mathematical [[sphere]]. The claim that it was round all about does not equate to a claim that it was a perfect sphere, as atheists have claimed.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;''Theology'', Volume 59, Issues 427-438,  Society for Promoting Christian Knowledge (Great Britain), London, 1956, p. 23&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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Additionally, Pi to one significant digit is 3. Just because the measurement is given to only one significant digit, that does not mean it was precisely that amount.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;There are no instances in the Bible where fractions are used.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Of course, since Pi is an irrational number, it would be impossible to give a truly precise measurement. Since decimal notation was not in use in Biblical times, there was no way to express Pi to greater accuracy in the language of the day.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Bat as a bird===&lt;br /&gt;
A favorite [[evolutionist]] canard is that [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:13-19]] labels the [[bat]], a [[mammal]], as a [[bird]]. The [[KJV]] translation of &amp;quot;fowl&amp;quot; is simply incorrect, as the Hebrew term '' 'owph'' did not entail the &amp;quot;clade&amp;quot; of birds, but was a non-scientific category simply referring to ''any'' winged creature. A popular Jewish translation, used to explain the laws of keeping kosher, translates the term as &amp;quot;winged flying things.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
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===Rabbits, coneys, and cud===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:5-6]], the Bible states, {{cquote|And the coney ''(or hyrax)'', because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.}} While rabbits do not, in fact, regurgitate food and re-chew it, they have the same jaw motions as animals that do&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://carm.org/bible-difficulties/genesis-deuteronomy/do-badger-and-rabbit-chew-cud&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; and thus appeared as cud-chewing to the Jews of Moses's time. Atheists and liberals love to misrepresent this passage only because they are in [[liberal denial]] of the truth.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Number of legs of insects===&lt;br /&gt;
In [[Leviticus 10-18 (Translated)#Chapter 11|Leviticus 11:20-23]], the Bible states, {{cquote|All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.&lt;br /&gt;
Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;&lt;br /&gt;
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Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the &lt;br /&gt;
grasshopper after his kind.&lt;br /&gt;
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But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.}}While this may appear to indicate that insects have four legs (they have six), the passage is in fact referring to the manner in which the grasshopper moves. Grasshoppers have large back legs mainly used for jumping, and not for walking, which is when it uses its smaller four front legs. Thus, the ancient Hebrews were just describing things as they saw them, not according to scientific nomenclature.&lt;br /&gt;
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==See also==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Essay:Rebuttal to Biblical scientific foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Biblical political foreknowledge]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Christianity and Science]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[The Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Evolution]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Atheism]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Prodigal Son]]&lt;br /&gt;
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==External links==&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://www.creationwiki.org/Bible_scientific_foreknowledge Biblical scientific foreknowledge] by [[CreationWiki]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[http://questionevolution.blogspot.com/2012/10/scientific-consensus-and-evolutionary.html Jesus vs. the scientific consensus and evolution. Jesus wins!]&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;quot;Ten of the Top Scientific Facts in the Bible&amp;quot;, Living Waters Films with Ray Comfort. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2sMJMXDiH4]&lt;br /&gt;
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==References==&lt;br /&gt;
{{reflist|2}}&lt;br /&gt;
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[[Category:Bible]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Science]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Creationism]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Christianity]]&lt;br /&gt;
[[Category:Liberal Denial]]&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Whales''' are marine mammals of the order [[Cetacea]], and a clear [[Counterexample to the Theory of Evolution]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Description ==&lt;br /&gt;
Whales are separated into the toothed whales, ''Odontocetes'' (which includes [[dolphin]]s, [[porpoise]]s, [[narwhal]]s, beaked whales and [[sperm whale]]s), and the whalebone, or baleen, whales, also called ''Mysticetes''. The latter are mostly very large, which, instead of teeth, have baleen (whalebone) to filter small prey from the water; they are what people generally think of when the word whale is used. The whalebone whales include the rorquals - the [[blue whale]], fin whale, sei whale, Bryde's whale, [[minke whale]], and humpback whale; the [[grey whale]]; and the various [[right whale]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although whales are famed for the massive size reached by some species, such as the blue whale (the largest animal to ever live), others are relatively small, like the pygmy right whale which grows to about 20 feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/PygmyRightWhale.htm] American Cetacean Society website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Though whales have  many traits in common with fish (including fins and tails) they are [[classification system|classified]] as [[mammal]]s under the [[Linnaean taxonomy]] classification system because they breathe air and lactate. Whales have a number of remarkable features including:&lt;br /&gt;
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* they decide when to breathe, rather than breathing unconsciously&lt;br /&gt;
* they sleep 8 hours a day, yet need to be conscious to breathe&lt;br /&gt;
* they can communicate with each other by making remarkably loud noises&lt;br /&gt;
* these extraordinary noises can travel for miles under water&lt;br /&gt;
* the females nurse their calves while swimming underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* the males have a unique cooling system for their internal reproductive organs, involving the circulation of cooled blood from the extremities directly around the [[testes]] before returning to the [[heart]]&lt;br /&gt;
* whales, along with humans and horses, are some of the few mammal species that do not possess [[baculum]] (penile bone)&lt;br /&gt;
* mysticetes have two blow-holes, while odontocetes only have one&lt;br /&gt;
* the blow-holes pass air above water, yet resist intense pressure underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* they have massive brains, much larger than the brains of other mammals&lt;br /&gt;
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== Taxonomy ==&lt;br /&gt;
Two distinct kinds of whales exist worldwide: toothed whales of the suborder Odontoceti, and whalebone, or baleen, whales of the suborder Mysticeti.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Baleen whales===&lt;br /&gt;
Mysticeti includes thirteen species in six genera, all chiefly characterized by the presence of plates of baleen hanging from their upper jaws inside their mouths.  These plates are used to filter small animals such as krill, or small shoaling fish (herring or mackerel).  To accommodate the baleen, as well as to catch enormous schools of krill and fish, these whales have huge mouths; the baleen in the bowhead (''Balaena mysticetus'') for example is up to ten feet in length.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Suborder Mysticeti: Baleen whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Balaenidae: Right whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Balaena''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Bowhead, or Greenland right whale, ''Balaena mysticetus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Eubalaena''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::North Atlantic right whale, ''Eubalaena glacialis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::North Pacific right whale, ''Eubalaena japonica''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Southern right whale, ''Eubalaena australis''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Balaenopteridae: Rorquals'''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Balaenopterinae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Balaenoptera''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Antarctic minke whale, ''Balaenoptera bonaerensis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Common minke whale, ''Balaenoptera acutorostrata''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Bryde's whale, ''Balaenoptera brydei''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Blue whale, ''Balaenoptera musculus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Fin whale, ''Balaenoptera physalus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sei whale, ''Balaenoptera borealis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Megapterinae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Megaptera''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Humpback whale, ''Megaptera novaeangliae''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Eschrichtiidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Eschrichtius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gray whale, ''Eschrichtius robustus''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Neobalaenidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Caperea''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy right whale, ''Caperea marginata''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Toothed whales===&lt;br /&gt;
Odontoceti comprises twenty-six species in ten genera, excluding the smaller dolphins and porpoises.  All possess conical teeth in one form or another, with some bearing rudimentary teeth only.  Only one species (sperm whale, ''Physeter macrocephalus'') reaches lengths of over sixty feet; several beaked whales are rarely over thirty feet, while the remaining species reach lengths less than that.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Suborder Odontoceti: Toothed whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Monodontidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Delphinapterus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Beluga, ''Delphinapterus leucas''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Monodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Narwhal, ''Monodon monoceros''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Physeteridae: Sperm whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Physeter''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sperm whale, ''Physeter macrocephalus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Kogia''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Dwarf sperm whale, ''Kogia sima''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy sperm whale, ''Kogia breviceps''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Ziphidae: Beaked whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Berardius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Arnoux's beaked whale, ''Berardius arnuxii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Baird's beaked whale, ''Berardius bairdii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Hyperoodontidae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Hyperoodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Northern bottlenose whale, ''Hyperoodon ampullatus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Southern bottlenose whale, ''Hyperoodon planifrons''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Indopacetus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Indo-Pacific beaked whale, ''Indopacetus pacificus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Mesoplodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Andrews' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon bowdoini''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Blainville's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon densirostris''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gervais' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon europaeus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ginkgo-toothed beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon ginkgodens''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gray's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon grayi''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Hector's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon hectori''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Hubbs' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon carlhubbsi''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Perrin's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon perrini''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon peruvianus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sowerby's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon bidens''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Spade-toothed whale, ''Mesoplodon traversii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Stejneger's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon stejnegeri''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Strap-toothed whale, ''Mesoplodon layardii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::True's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon mirus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Tasmacetus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Shepherd's beaked whale, ''Tasmacetus shepherdi''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Ziphius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Cuvier's beaked whale, ''Ziphius cavirostris''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family ''Delphinidae'''''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family ''Phocoenidae'''''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Origins ==&lt;br /&gt;
The question of how whales and their relatives could have evolved from terrestrial [[mammal]]s has intrigued evolutionary biologists since [[Charles Darwin|Darwin's]] suggestion that they may have evolved from ancient mammals who ventured into the water. As an example of how this change could begin, Darwin pointed out the behavior of black bears. &amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;In North America the black bear was seen . . . swimming for hours with widely open mouth, thus catching, like a whale, insects in the water. Even in so extreme a case as this, if the supply of insects were constant, and if better adapted competitors did not already exist in the country, I can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural selection, more and more aquatic in their structure and habits, with larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a whale.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Charles Darwin, [http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1228 Origin of species] 1st edition&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In more recent times evolutionary biologists have suggested that modern whales and their relatives arose from ancient [[Artiodactyla|artiodactyls]] (even-toed ungulates such as [[deer]] and [[hippopotamus|hippopotami]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/41080/molecular_clock_divergence_estimates_and_the_fossil_record_of_cetartiodactyla/index.html] Theodore, JM (2004) Molecular Clock Divergence Estimates And The Fossil Record Of Cetartiodactyla '' The Journal Of Paleontology'' '''78''':39-44&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
More specifically, they believe that whales evolved from Pakicetus through Aetiocetus, because of the similarities in their bone structure. For example, Pakicetus has nostrils at the front of its skull, Aetiocetus has nostrils in the middle of its skull, and the modern gray whale has nostrils at the top of its skull&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/lines_03]University of California, Berkeley, ''Understanding Evolution''&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This kinship has been termed the whippo hypothesis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/pdfs/data/1999/15619/15619-10.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Evolutionary biologists estimate the last ancestor of whales and hippos lived about 25 million years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/lines/IAtransitional.shtml] UCLA Berkley Understanding Evolution for Teachers website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This theory of cetacean origins contrasts with the [[Young earth creationism|young earth creationist]] position that whales were [[creation|created]] about 6000 years ago, ''before'' land animals .&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sarfati, Jonathan [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3834/106/ Whale evolution?] ''Refuting Evolution'', Chapter 5.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Batten, Don, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1776 A whale of a tale?] ''Journal of Creation'' 8(1):2–3, April 1994.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Williams, Alexander, and Sarfati, Jonathan, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1862 Not at all like a whale], ''Creation'' 27(2):20–22, March 2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Whaling industry==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Bradford Icebound Whaling Ship.jpg|thumb|Bradford, Icebound Whaling Ship.]]&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Whaling]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Whales in literature ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== The Bible ===&lt;br /&gt;
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{{Bible quote|Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.''|book=Jonah|chap=1|verses=17|version=KJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
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The great fish that swallowed [[Jonah (prophet)|Jonah]] is often thought of as being a whale, although the translation of 'great fish' is not a precise designation of species but may indicate any physically large, ocean-going creature. The physical difficulty of having a human be swallowed by a whale and survive the intense pressure of diving, lack of air and acidic environment of the stomach, and the fact that the Bible says that God &amp;quot;prepared&amp;quot; the fish has led some to suggest the creature may be uniquely and specially prepared by [[God]] for the purpose. Alternatively, Jonah may have been simply protected by supernatural means.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whales are mentioned in three other places in the King James Version of the Bible:&lt;br /&gt;
* Genesis 1:21: &amp;quot;And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Job 7:12: &amp;quot;Am I a sea, or a whale, that thou settest a watch over me?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Ezekiel 32:2: &amp;quot;Son of man, take up a lamentation for Pharaoh king of Egypt, and say unto him, Thou art like a young lion of the nations, and thou art as a whale in the seas: and thou camest forth with thy rivers, and troubledst the waters with thy feet, and fouledst their rivers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Fiction ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Arguably the most famous book about whales is [[Herman Melville]]'s ''[[Moby-Dick|Moby Dick]]'', about a whaling-ship captain obsessed with hunting down the sperm whale (Moby Dick) which had bitten off one of his legs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Orca]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dolphin]]&lt;br /&gt;
==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
* Carwardine, Mark. ''Whales &amp;amp; Dolphins'' (Smithsonian Handbooks) (2002) [http://www.amazon.com/Whales-Dolphins-Smithsonian-Handbooks-Carwardine/dp/0789489902/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1226789849&amp;amp;sr=1-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Creighton, Margaret S.  ''Rites and Passages: The Experience of American Whaling, 1830-1870.'' (1995). 233 pp.  [http://www.amazon.com/Rites-Passages-Experience-American-1830-1870/dp/0521484480/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1207603299&amp;amp;sr=8-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Dolin, Eric Jay. ''Leviathan: The History of Whaling in America'' (2007) 480 pp. [http://www.amazon.com/Leviathan-History-Eric-Jay-Dolin/dp/0393060578/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1207596886&amp;amp;sr=8-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Ellis, Richard.  ''Men and Whales.'' (1991). 542 pp.  &lt;br /&gt;
* Papastavrou, Vassili. ''Whale'' (DK Eyewitness Books) (2004) [http://www.amazon.com/Whale-Eyewitness-Books-Vassili-Papastavrou/dp/0756607396/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1226789849&amp;amp;sr=1-3 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Stoett, Peter J. ''The International Politics of Whaling'' (1997) [http://www.questia.com/read/57120862?title=The%20International%20Politics%20of%20Whaling online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
*Berta, Annalisa ''Return to the Sea: The Life and Evolutionary Times of Marine Mammals'' 2012 &lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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'''Whales''' are marine mammals of the order [[Cetacea]], and a clear [[Counterexample to the Theory of Evolution]].&lt;br /&gt;
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== Description ==&lt;br /&gt;
Whales are separated into the toothed whales, ''Odontocetes'' (which includes [[dolphin]]s, [[porpoise]]s, [[narwhal]]s, beaked whales and [[sperm whale]]s), and the whalebone, or baleen, whales, also called ''Mysticetes''. The latter are mostly very large, which, instead of teeth, have baleen (whalebone) to filter small prey from the water; they are what people generally think of when the word whale is used. The whalebone whales include the rorquals - the [[blue whale]], fin whale, sei whale, Bryde's whale, [[minke whale]], and humpback whale; the [[grey whale]]; and the various [[right whale]]s.&lt;br /&gt;
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Although whales are famed for the massive size reached by some species, such as the blue whale (the largest animal to ever live), others are relatively small, like the pygmy right whale which grows to about 20 feet.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.acsonline.org/factpack/PygmyRightWhale.htm] American Cetacean Society website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;  Though whales have  many traits in common with fish (including fins and tails) they are [[classification system|classified]] as [[mammal]]s under the [[Linnaean taxonomy]] classification system because they breathe air and lactate. Whales have a number of remarkable features including:&lt;br /&gt;
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* they decide when to breathe, rather than breathing unconsciously&lt;br /&gt;
* they sleep 8 hours a day, yet need to be conscious to breathe&lt;br /&gt;
* they can communicate with each other by making remarkably loud noises&lt;br /&gt;
* these extraordinary noises can travel for miles under water&lt;br /&gt;
* the females nurse their calves while swimming underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* the males have a unique cooling system for their internal reproductive organs, involving the circulation of cooled blood from the extremities directly around the [[testes]] before returning to the [[heart]]&lt;br /&gt;
* whales, along with humans and horses, are some of the few mammal species that do not possess [[baculum]] (penile bone)&lt;br /&gt;
* mysticetes have two blow-holes, while odontocetes only have one&lt;br /&gt;
* the blow-holes pass air above water, yet resist intense pressure underwater&lt;br /&gt;
* they have massive brains, much larger than the brains of other mammals&lt;br /&gt;
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== Taxonomy ==&lt;br /&gt;
Two distinct kinds of whales exist worldwide: toothed whales of the suborder Odontoceti, and whalebone, or baleen, whales of the suborder Mysticeti.&lt;br /&gt;
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===Baleen whales===&lt;br /&gt;
Mysticeti includes thirteen species in six genera, all chiefly characterized by the presence of plates of baleen hanging from their upper jaws inside their mouths.  These plates are used to filter small animals such as krill, or small shoaling fish (herring or mackerel).  To accommodate the baleen, as well as to catch enormous schools of krill and fish, these whales have huge mouths; the baleen in the bowhead (''Balaena mysticetus'') for example is up to ten feet in length.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Suborder Mysticeti: Baleen whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Balaenidae: Right whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Balaena''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Bowhead, or Greenland right whale, ''Balaena mysticetus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Eubalaena''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::North Atlantic right whale, ''Eubalaena glacialis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::North Pacific right whale, ''Eubalaena japonica''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Southern right whale, ''Eubalaena australis''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Balaenopteridae: Rorquals'''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Balaenopterinae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Balaenoptera''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Antarctic minke whale, ''Balaenoptera bonaerensis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Common minke whale, ''Balaenoptera acutorostrata''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Bryde's whale, ''Balaenoptera brydei''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Blue whale, ''Balaenoptera musculus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Fin whale, ''Balaenoptera physalus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sei whale, ''Balaenoptera borealis''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Megapterinae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Megaptera''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Humpback whale, ''Megaptera novaeangliae''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Eschrichtiidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Eschrichtius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gray whale, ''Eschrichtius robustus''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Neobalaenidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Caperea''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy right whale, ''Caperea marginata''&lt;br /&gt;
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===Toothed whales===&lt;br /&gt;
Odontoceti comprises twenty-six species in ten genera, excluding the smaller dolphins and porpoises.  All possess conical teeth in one form or another, with some bearing rudimentary teeth only.  Only one species (sperm whale, ''Physeter macrocephalus'') reaches lengths of over sixty feet; several beaked whales are rarely over thirty feet, while the remaining species reach lengths less than that.&lt;br /&gt;
*'''Suborder Odontoceti: Toothed whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Monodontidae'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Delphinapterus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Beluga, ''Delphinapterus leucas''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Monodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Narwhal, ''Monodon monoceros''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Physeteridae: Sperm whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Physeter''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sperm whale, ''Physeter macrocephalus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Kogia''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Dwarf sperm whale, ''Kogia sima''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy sperm whale, ''Kogia breviceps''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family Ziphidae: Beaked whales'''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Berardius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Arnoux's beaked whale, ''Berardius arnuxii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Baird's beaked whale, ''Berardius bairdii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::Subfamily Hyperoodontidae&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Hyperoodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Northern bottlenose whale, ''Hyperoodon ampullatus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Southern bottlenose whale, ''Hyperoodon planifrons''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Indopacetus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Indo-Pacific beaked whale, ''Indopacetus pacificus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Mesoplodon''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Andrews' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon bowdoini''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Blainville's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon densirostris''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gervais' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon europaeus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Ginkgo-toothed beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon ginkgodens''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Gray's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon grayi''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Hector's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon hectori''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Hubbs' beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon carlhubbsi''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Perrin's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon perrini''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Pygmy beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon peruvianus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Sowerby's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon bidens''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Spade-toothed whale, ''Mesoplodon traversii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Stejneger's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon stejnegeri''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Strap-toothed whale, ''Mesoplodon layardii''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::True's beaked whale, ''Mesoplodon mirus''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Tasmacetus''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Shepherd's beaked whale, ''Tasmacetus shepherdi''&lt;br /&gt;
::::Genus ''Ziphius''&lt;br /&gt;
:::::Cuvier's beaked whale, ''Ziphius cavirostris''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family ''Delphinidae'''''&lt;br /&gt;
::'''Family ''Phocoenidae'''''&lt;br /&gt;
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== Origins ==&lt;br /&gt;
The question of how whales and their relatives could have evolved from terrestrial [[mammal]]s has intrigued evolutionary biologists since [[Charles Darwin|Darwin's]] suggestion that they may have evolved from ancient mammals who ventured into the water. As an example of how this change could begin, Darwin pointed out the behavior of black bears. &amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;quot;In North America the black bear was seen . . . swimming for hours with widely open mouth, thus catching, like a whale, insects in the water. Even in so extreme a case as this, if the supply of insects were constant, and if better adapted competitors did not already exist in the country, I can see no difficulty in a race of bears being rendered, by natural selection, more and more aquatic in their structure and habits, with larger and larger mouths, till a creature was produced as monstrous as a whale.&amp;quot;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Charles Darwin, [http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1228 Origin of species] 1st edition&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In more recent times evolutionary biologists have suggested that modern whales and their relatives arose from ancient [[Artiodactyla|artiodactyls]] (even-toed ungulates such as [[deer]] and [[hippopotamus|hippopotami]]).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://www.redorbit.com/news/science/41080/molecular_clock_divergence_estimates_and_the_fossil_record_of_cetartiodactyla/index.html] Theodore, JM (2004) Molecular Clock Divergence Estimates And The Fossil Record Of Cetartiodactyla '' The Journal Of Paleontology'' '''78''':39-44&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
More specifically, they believe that whales evolved from Pakicetus through Aetiocetus, because of the similarities in their bone structure. For example, Pakicetus has nostrils at the front of its skull, Aetiocetus has nostrils in the middle of its skull, and the modern gray whale has nostrils at the top of its skull&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[https://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/lines_03]&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;. This kinship has been termed the whippo hypothesis.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;http://www.sciencenews.org/pages/pdfs/data/1999/15619/15619-10.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Evolutionary biologists estimate the last ancestor of whales and hippos lived about 25 million years ago.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;[http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evosite/lines/IAtransitional.shtml] UCLA Berkley Understanding Evolution for Teachers website&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; This theory of cetacean origins contrasts with the [[Young earth creationism|young earth creationist]] position that whales were [[creation|created]] about 6000 years ago, ''before'' land animals .&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Sarfati, Jonathan [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/3834/106/ Whale evolution?] ''Refuting Evolution'', Chapter 5.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Batten, Don, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1776 A whale of a tale?] ''Journal of Creation'' 8(1):2–3, April 1994.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;Williams, Alexander, and Sarfati, Jonathan, [http://www.creationontheweb.com/content/view/1862 Not at all like a whale], ''Creation'' 27(2):20–22, March 2005.&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
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==Whaling industry==&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:Bradford Icebound Whaling Ship.jpg|thumb|Bradford, Icebound Whaling Ship.]]&lt;br /&gt;
See: [[Whaling]]&lt;br /&gt;
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== Whales in literature ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== The Bible ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
{{Bible quote|Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights.''|book=Jonah|chap=1|verses=17|version=KJV}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The great fish that swallowed [[Jonah (prophet)|Jonah]] is often thought of as being a whale, although the translation of 'great fish' is not a precise designation of species but may indicate any physically large, ocean-going creature. The physical difficulty of having a human be swallowed by a whale and survive the intense pressure of diving, lack of air and acidic environment of the stomach, and the fact that the Bible says that God &amp;quot;prepared&amp;quot; the fish has led some to suggest the creature may be uniquely and specially prepared by [[God]] for the purpose. Alternatively, Jonah may have been simply protected by supernatural means.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Whales are mentioned in three other places in the King James Version of the Bible:&lt;br /&gt;
* Genesis 1:21: &amp;quot;And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Job 7:12: &amp;quot;Am I a sea, or a whale, that thou settest a watch over me?&amp;quot;&lt;br /&gt;
* Ezekiel 32:2: &amp;quot;Son of man, take up a lamentation for Pharaoh king of Egypt, and say unto him, Thou art like a young lion of the nations, and thou art as a whale in the seas: and thou camest forth with thy rivers, and troubledst the waters with thy feet, and fouledst their rivers.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
=== Fiction ===&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Arguably the most famous book about whales is [[Herman Melville]]'s ''[[Moby-Dick|Moby Dick]]'', about a whaling-ship captain obsessed with hunting down the sperm whale (Moby Dick) which had bitten off one of his legs.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== See also ==&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Orca]]&lt;br /&gt;
*[[Dolphin]]&lt;br /&gt;
==Further reading==&lt;br /&gt;
* Carwardine, Mark. ''Whales &amp;amp; Dolphins'' (Smithsonian Handbooks) (2002) [http://www.amazon.com/Whales-Dolphins-Smithsonian-Handbooks-Carwardine/dp/0789489902/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1226789849&amp;amp;sr=1-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Creighton, Margaret S.  ''Rites and Passages: The Experience of American Whaling, 1830-1870.'' (1995). 233 pp.  [http://www.amazon.com/Rites-Passages-Experience-American-1830-1870/dp/0521484480/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1207603299&amp;amp;sr=8-1 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Dolin, Eric Jay. ''Leviathan: The History of Whaling in America'' (2007) 480 pp. [http://www.amazon.com/Leviathan-History-Eric-Jay-Dolin/dp/0393060578/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1207596886&amp;amp;sr=8-2 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Ellis, Richard.  ''Men and Whales.'' (1991). 542 pp.  &lt;br /&gt;
* Papastavrou, Vassili. ''Whale'' (DK Eyewitness Books) (2004) [http://www.amazon.com/Whale-Eyewitness-Books-Vassili-Papastavrou/dp/0756607396/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&amp;amp;s=books&amp;amp;qid=1226789849&amp;amp;sr=1-3 excerpt and text search]&lt;br /&gt;
* Stoett, Peter J. ''The International Politics of Whaling'' (1997) [http://www.questia.com/read/57120862?title=The%20International%20Politics%20of%20Whaling online edition]&lt;br /&gt;
*Berta, Annalisa ''Return to the Sea: The Life and Evolutionary Times of Marine Mammals'' 2012 &lt;br /&gt;
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== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
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