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Leftist

2009-07-24T02:36:38Z

BjoernM: /* History */

'''Leftist''' refers to someone on the far left side of the [[political spectrum]], not merely a [[liberal]], but more radical, such as a [[socialist]], [[communist]] or a particularly [[liberal]] member of the [[American]] [[Democratic Party]]. A leftist supports collectivism, more government control of the economy, direct government control over social policy, including Federal control over education at all levels, lower [[military]] spending, censorship of religion, a more unisex society, [[Transnationalism]] and state-funded [[abortion]].

Anarchist thinker Michael Bakunin critiqued prominent leftist theoritician [[Karl Marx]] in 1873 with these words,

:"..if the [[proletariat]] is to be the ruling class, over whom is it to rule? ...the peasant "rabble" who, as it is known, does not enjoy the sympathy of the Marxists who consider it to represent a [[Racism|lower level of culture]], will probably be ruled by the factory proletariat of the cities. Or, if this problem is to be approached [[Nationalism|nationalist]]ically, the [[Slavs]] will be placed in the same subordinate relationship to the victorious German proletariat in which the latter now stands to the German bourgeoisie." <ref>Michael Bakunin, ''Statism and Anarchy'', (1873), in Sam Dolgoff, ''Bakunin'' On Anarchy, (Alfred A. Knopf, New York, 1972), p. 330.</ref>

==State planning==

In the United States men such as [[Eugene Debs]], Maurice Hilquit and [[Norman Thomas]] believed they could, by a gradual series of alterations in the structure of society, create a truly democratic world in which all people would enjoy not merely freedom, but prosperity. They believed this could not be achieved under the system of [[private property]] and [[profit]]. They advocated a gradual acquisition by the State of all the great utilities, transportation, communication, and basic industries such as coal, oil, and steel.

The dream of a cooperative commonwealth in which all would share equally in the prosperity created by an economic system owned by the people was the vision of [[Socialist]]s. This in theory would end [[poverty]], [[ignorance]] and [[crises]]. The idea was to [[nationalize]] banks, railroads, all means of transport, mines, and a few basic industries, but leave some factories, stores, farms, entertainment industries, etc., in the hands of private owners. The government would assume responsibility for making the economy work, for the wellbeing of all the citizens, their protection from the hazards of life, poverty, sickness, and old age. To make the whole economy work continuously without occasional [[Great_Depression#Boom_or_Bust_Cycles|boom-bust]] cycles, the government would create [[economic planning]] boards which would continuously study and observe the functioning of the economic system and make plans covering production, prices, distribution, financing, profits, [[wages]], hours, etc. Thus there would be Planned Capitalism, with the State responsible for the planning and for ensuring the carrying out of its plans through great government bureaus armed with the necessary powers to enforce compliance.

In the 1920s [[Mussolini]] had adopted the Planned Capitalist State. And he gave it the name "[[fascism]]". [[Hitler]] adopted the same idea and called it [[National Socialism]]. Mussolini and Hitler both realized that a system which imposes a vast complex of decrees upon a people while subjecting them to confiscatory [[tax]]es to support the immense activities of the government cannot be operated except by an [[Absolutism|absolute]] government that has the power to enforce compliance. Prior to [[World War II]], this type of system had spread all over Europe. For nearly 70 years all the countries in Europe, with Germany in the lead, had been experimenting with the idea of the [[welfare state]], the State which attempts to provide its people with jobs and protection from all the hazards of life.

This system is the direct opposite of [[classical liberalism]]. It is the negation of the classical liberal philosophy which for decades has been fighting to emancipate the people from the tyranny of the all powerful State. During the [[New Deal]] this doctrine became known in America as "liberalism". Liberals did not admit that it implied the restoration to the State those very powers which had been stripped from the State as the means of giving people freedom. They called it the [[Planned Economy]]. But it was and is fascism by whatever name it is known. Incrementally the government must be made stronger, and the rights of the citizens reduced.

==Modern leftists==
Modern leftists in the United States have come under increasing criticism as advocates of thought control. <ref>[http://www.humanevents.com//article.php?id=20562 Leftist Thought Control], David Limbaugh, ''Human Events'', 05/04/2007. </ref> Author David Limbaugh cites, "Consider the subjects of [[evolution]], [[global warming]], [[gay agenda|special rights for homosexuals]] and [[abstinence]] education. Consider efforts of the left to [[Fairness Doctrine|silence conservative talk radio]]. Consider the mainstream media's arrogant denial of its transparent [[liberal bias]], pronouncing itself to be above politics and inherently objective and its critics somehow skewed....Consider the leftist refrain that [[red state]] conservatives do not merely possess a different world view, but are not part of the 'reality-based community.'"

==References==
{{reflist}}

==External links==
* [http://www.marx2mao.com/Lenin/LWC20.html V. I. Lenin, ''"Left-Wing" Communism, An Infantile Disorder''] (1920) V. I. Lenin, Selected Works, English edition, Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow, 1952, Vol. II, Part 2.

{{Liberalism}}
[[Category:Liberalism]]

Talk:Black Metal

2009-06-14T18:02:15Z

BjoernM:

==List of bands==
I added it so parents reading this could get an idea of what names to be wary of when you look on your child's ipod, but it looks like an ugly block of text to me. If some one can think of a more elegant way to present it, that would be great.

That's me, btw [[User:Jewishfanofnsbm|Jewishfanofnsbm]] 16:08, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

:Done. May I suggest alphabetizing? [[User:Learn together|Learn together]] 16:18, 3 June 2008 (EDT)
::Done. [[User:Jewishfanofnsbm|Jewishfanofnsbm]] 16:39, 3 June 2008 (EDT)

== Moving ==

This should be moved under name [[Black metal]] because Black Metal is name of Venom album, and black metal name for music style. --[[User:Miihkali|Miihkali]] 17:07, 14 June 2008 (EDT)

*Depends on whether this site follows the convention of capitalizing names of music genres. Many Metalheads capitalize Metal and Metal sub-genres out of reverence or something. Anyway, I'm inclined to agree with you, but the page for the album (if this site actually needs a page for it???) can always be called "Black Metal (album)". [[User:Jewishfanofnsbm|Jewishfanofnsbm]] 01:03, 6 October 2008 (EDT)

== Bands ==

I added some christian black metal bands to the list with (christian) beside them and i removed venom from the list since its a death metal band not a black metal band.
*Venom is in no way death metal, dude. :P They are just Motörhead with worse production.[[User:Jewishfanofnsbm|Jewishfanofnsbm]] 01:01, 6 October 2008 (EDT)
** I still would add them to the list of bands, though musically they were more likely thrash with influences from style which is now called black metal, those days Venom was commonly referred as black metal. Also, Venom is traditionally categorised to black metal, and even when their music is quite similar to thrash, their poorly produced sound, high and fast guitars and satanic imaginery is what normally makes bands black metal. --[[User:Miihkali|Miihkali]] 16:47, 15 November 2008 (EST)

==How can something be Secular and Satanic?==
Black metal does truly bite when it comes to sound an message but does that really justify for such a contradiction in the introduction to this topic as ''secular and Satanic''?Secular refers to a lack thereof of any religious preferences at all and a stance of neutrality whereas something satanic would dictate that it takes on a religious role and a worship of Satan.isn't that contradictory to the idea of secularism and vice versa?

Goth (subculture)

2009-06-14T17:44:45Z

BjoernM:

'''Goth''' in modern usage is a term often given to a style of music, a type of dress, and/or a subculture; all of which were originally derived from bands such as Siouxsie & The Banshees, Bauhaus, and the Cure. Goth fashion typically consists of a conspicuous affection for black clothing(descended of [[Punk]] and its general preference of monotonous colour patterns in attire),effeminate dress for both males and females and makeup of course though generally only to accentuate the features of ones face and a hearkening back to the days of [[Glam-rock]] to which it also traces its roots.

Very often they have back-combed hair, leather fashion dawning anacrhronistic attires of the(but not always) [[Edwardian]],[[Victorian]] and [[Elizabethan]] periods(typically of the aristocratic sort), winkle-pickers and makeup to accentuate the features of one's face. Goth women normally make up their face very white a hearkening back to yet again [[Glam-rock]] and of theatre makeup.

== Criticism from the Christian point of view ==

It is often labeled as [[Satan]]ic or anti-[[Christian]] in nature, although a large Christian Goth community exists, and Goths are not necessarily anti-Christian.

Though some goths are Christian, some of them are atheists, [[Anti-Christianity|anti-Christians]] and even [[Satanist]]s. Often these non-Christian goths walk beside normal youngsters.

Goth culture has its roots in music. It comes from gothic/death/punk rock and from gothic metal, which are very doomish styles of music, without hope and fun. This kind of music makes it listener melancholic. Also, many goths like to play [[role-playing games]] and especially [[LARP]]s. They play vampires and so on in these games. When they come to home, they can not stop 'playing' demons, because since they started the game, they are under [[possession]]. At least some subsets of Goth culture can be clearly seen as a [[cult]]s such as the EMO (see external link).

==External links==
*[http://christiangoth.com/ Christian Goth .com]
*[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-400953/EMO-cult-warning-parents.html "EMO cult warning for parents"]

[[Category:Culture]]

Goth (subculture)

2009-06-14T17:37:19Z

BjoernM: /* Criticism from the Christian point of view */

'''Goth''' in modern usage is a term often given to a style of music, a type of dress, and/or a subculture; all of which were originally derived from bands such as Siouxsie & The Banshees, Bahaus, and the Cure. Goth fashion typically consists of a conspicuous affection for black clothing, black/red hair dye, painted nails and eyeliner on both genders, pale skin or powder makeup, and striking application of cosmetics.

Most of those are young women, many of whom dress bizzarely. Very often they have black hair, black leather clothes with references to 18th century clothing, black boots and make up making them like look demons. Goth women normally make up their face very white, attempting to look like vampires. While for many this is only a style, some do it because they worship vampires/other demons and death. Satanic clothing is also rebellion against Christianity.

== Criticism from the Christian point of view ==

It is often labeled as [[Satan]]ic or anti-[[Christian]] in nature, although a large Christian Goth community exists, and Goths are not necessarily anti-Christian.

A Goth much like any person belonging to a certain [[subculture]] is and can be of many different faiths and backgrounds with only small minority(often just Mall-Goth children rebelling from their parents;these children are not actually Goth though but [[Metal-heads]]) will claim to be [[Satanic]] generally that is only to incite fear due to ostracism from peers.

Goth culture has its roots in music. It comes from gothic-rock, which glam-rock influenced genre of [[punk-rock]], without hope and fun.Often the songs are fairly harsh,introverted and satirical in nature of many ideas though this dates back to its root in art-schools.

==External links==
*[http://christiangoth.com/ Christian Goth .com]
*[http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-400953/EMO-cult-warning-parents.html "EMO cult warning for parents"]

[[Category:Culture]]

Leftist

2009-05-04T00:16:21Z

BjoernM:

The term '''Leftist''' refers to someone on the far left side of the [[political spectrum]], such as a [[socialist]], [[communist]] or particularly [[liberal]] member of the [[American]] [[Democratic Party]]thought there were many of the [[Republican Party]] though most of which resigened. A '''leftist''' generally supports collectivism, more government control of the economy, less government control of social policy, lower [[military]] spending, censorship of religion in government, a more unisex society, and state-funded [[abortion]].

Anarchist thinker Michael Bakunin critiqued prominent leftist theoritician [[Karl Marx]] in 1873 with these words,

:"..if the [[proletariat]] is to be the ruling class, over whom is it to rule? ...the peasant "rabble" who, as it is known, does not enjoy the sympathy of the Marxists who consider it to represent a [[Racism|lower level of culture]], will probably be ruled by the factory proletariat of the cities. Or, if this problem is to be approached [[Nationalism|nationalist]]ically, the [[Slavs]] will be placed in the same subordinate relationship to the victorious German proletariat in which the latter now stands to the German bourgeoisie." <ref>Michael Bakunin, ''Statism and Anarchy'', (1873), in Sam Dolgoff, ''Bakunin'' On Anarchy, (Alfred A. Knopf, New York, 1972), p. 330.</ref>

==State planning==

In the United States men such as [[Eugene Debs]], Maurice Hilquit and [[Norman Thomas]] believed they could, by a gradual series of alterations in the structure of society, create a truly democratic world in which all people would enjoy not merely freedom, but prosperity. They believed this could not be achieved under the system of [[private property]] and [[profit]]. They advocated a gradual acquisition by the State of all the great utilities, transportation, communication, and basic industries such as coal, oil, and steel.

The dream of a cooperative commonwealth in which all would share equally in the prosperity created by an economic system owned by the people was the vision of [[Socialist]]s. This in theory would end [[poverty]], [[ignorance]] and [[crises]]. The idea was to [[nationalize]] banks, railroads, all means of transport, mines, and a few basic industries, but leave some factories, stores, farms, entertainment industries, etc., in the hands of private owners. The government would assume responsibility for making the economy work, for the wellbeing of all the citizens, their protection from the hazards of life, poverty, sickness, and old age. To make the whole economy work continuously without occasional [[Great_Depression#Boom_or_Bust_Cycles|boom-bust]] cycles, the government would create [[economic planning]] boards which would continuously study and observe the functioning of the economic system and make plans covering production, prices, distribution, financing, profits, [[wages]], hours, etc. Thus there would be Planned Capitalism, with the State responsible for the planning and for ensuring the carrying out of its plans through great government bureaus armed with the necessary powers to enforce compliance.

In the 1920s [[Mussolini]] had adopted the Planned Capitalist State. And he gave it the name "[[fascism]]". [[Hitler]] adopted the same idea and called it [[National Socialism]]. Mussolini and Hitler both realized that a system which imposes a vast complex of decrees upon a people while subjecting them to confiscatory [[tax]]es to support the immense activities of the government cannot be operated except by an [[Absolutism|absolute]] government that has the power to enforce compliance. Prior to [[World War II]], this type of system had spread all over Europe. For nearly 70 years all the countries in Europe, with Germany in the lead, had been experimenting with the idea of the [[welfare state]], the State which attempts to provide its people with jobs and protection from all the hazards of life.

This system is the direct opposite of [[classical liberalism]]. It is the negation of the classical liberal philosophy which for decades has been fighting to emancipate the people from the tyranny of the all powerful State. During the [[New Deal]] this doctrine became known in America as "liberalism". Liberals did not admit that it implied the restoration to the State those very powers which had been stripped from the State as the means of giving people freedom. They called it the [[Planned Economy]]. But it was and is fascism by whatever name it is known. Incrementally the government must be made stronger, and the rights of the citizens reduced.

==Modern leftists==
Modern leftists in the United States have come under increasing criticism as advocates of thought control. <ref>[http://www.humanevents.com//article.php?id=20562 Leftist Thought Control], David Limbaugh, ''Human Events'', 05/04/2007. </ref> Author David Limbaugh cites, "Consider the subjects of [[evolution]], [[global warming]], [[gay agenda|special rights for homosexuals]] and [[abstinence]] education. Consider efforts of the left to [[Fairness Doctrine|silence conservative talk radio]]. Consider the mainstream media's arrogant denial of its transparent [[liberal bias]], pronouncing itself to be above politics and inherently objective and its critics somehow skewed....Consider the leftist refrain that [[red state]] conservatives do not merely possess a different world view, but are not part of the 'reality-based community.'"

== History ==

During the French [[Reign of Terror]] of the early [[Enlightenment]], the left attempted a dechristianization movement to replace the "reactionary" worship of God and replace it with the worship of national patriotism, or the ''Patrie''. Many churches were closed and converted into Temples of Reason. <ref>John Hall Stewart, ''A Documentary Survey of the French Revolution'' (Macmillan, New York, 1963). </ref>

==References==
<references/>

==External links==
* [http://www.marx2mao.com/Lenin/LWC20.html V. I. Lenin, ''"Left-Wing" Communism, An Infantile Disorder''] (1920) V. I. Lenin, Selected Works, English edition, Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow, 1952, Vol. II, Part 2.

[[category:Liberalism]]

English language

2009-04-15T20:01:29Z

BjoernM:

'''English''' is the predominant language of the [[United States of America|United States]], the [[United Kingdom]], [[Australia]], [[Canada]] as well as other former members of the [[British Empire]]. Due to the enormous economic, scientific, political and cultural influence of the these nations, English functions as the world's major international language.

==Vocabulary==
English is a member of the Germanic language family with a vocabulary based upon [[Saxon]],[[Angle]] and [[Jute]] descent largely based upon(like other Germanic languages) the vocabulary of its Predecessor period(I.E. [[Middle-English]],[[Old-English]]) The influence of French is largely due to the conquest of Saxon-speaking [[England]] by [[French]] speaking Normans in 1066 AD which is fairly superficial in nature.Like other Germanic languages prominently [[Modern High-German]] and [[Dutch]] due largely to the usage of French as Lingua-Franca for law(save for [[Common law]] which is derived of Saxon-Folk law),Sciences,Philosophy and Politics.English utilises the [[Objective]],[[Singular]] and [Plural]] case endings for nouns supplemented by a reduced [[Masculine]] and [[Feminine]] system.it represents one of the oldest living Germanic languages of today within the North-Sea Germanic/Ingvaeonic sub-grouping of this family.Scholars identify 4 primary times in the development of history that account for the insurgence of non-native terminology including the above mentioned influence of French, the commencement of trade with Spain(The same occurred with German,Dutch and of course Frisian) and the Enlightenment period for Latin and Greek words.

Throughout its history, English has remained one of the most flexible and inventive languages, borrowing thousands of words from other languages where need or convenience arise, as well as generating new words of its own. In large part as a result, English has one of the largest lexicons (vocabularies) of any world language, and is particularly rich in [[synonym]]s and near-synonyms. It is the primary (native) language of approximately 400 million people worldwide, as well as a secondary, or learned language of 600 million more. There are estimated to be nearly one billion people currently learning English.

==Spelling==
English spelling, technically phonetic based on the Roman alphabet, has changed considerably over time. Because England had vast differences in pronunciations and [[dialects]], and because there was no standardized agreement of how to represent each sound nor which Roman letters corresponded to which sound, spelling was quite variable. Standard spellings did not come about until the late seventeenth century. In or around 1828 in the United States, the lexicographer [[Noah Webster]] argued for simplifying some spelling which were no longer phonetic, such as the -our in words such as "colour". Most, though not all, of his proposed changes were adopted, such that US English spelling differs from UK English in some hundreds of instances. UK English spelling is the standard in the United Kingdom, Hong Kong, and most of the Commonwealth of Nations including Canada and Australia; US English spelling is the standard in the [[United States]] and its territories.

The term "English" may also be used to refer to a person from the United Kingdom born in the country of England, or to describe something from England or with characteristics particular to that place.

==Grammar==

==See also==
* [[Official English]]

[[Category:English language| ]]
[[Category:United Kingdom]]

Gothic-Rock

2009-04-15T19:37:25Z

BjoernM: /* Bands */

'''Gothic-rock''' evolved primarily as a genre of punk music during the late seventies in certain metropolitan cities of the [[United Kingdom]] and [[Ireland]]([[Luton]],[[Leeds]],[[London]] and in Ireland,[[Dublin]]) often characterised by a more pacifistic,pro-Romanticist nature and lyrical-content and influenced([[Fashion]] and [[Image]] mostly) by the greater-apex of the [[Glam-Rock]] movement and the campy horror of [[B-Rated]] Films.It is often considered to be one of the Forerunners to the greater [[Post-Punk]] movement as a whole.

== Origins ==
Arguably some dictate that it is descended of one singular British-Punk of the late seventies known as [[UK Decay]] whom were interviewed in 1981 by a [[Brussels]] newspaper to which the Headline read ''Le Face of Punk Gothique'' and were deemed erroneously as such for their campy,often humorous emphasis on the Macabre and mysterious.Born of Luton soon enough several bands and their fans had begun to deem their music as '''Punk-Gothique'''(subsequently the fans as Goth) and at a later point '''Gothic-rock''' as it began to annex itself due in part to major popularity largely into a new-subculture separate from that of [[Punk]].During this period an evolution in the London Punk scene had been occurring with bands taking influence and applying more of a psychedelic/Glam-rock influence to their music and imagery whom were often a part of the [[Bromley Contingent]] and fans of [[The Sex Pistols]] began to experiment with a more progressive rhythmic form of Punk with irregular song-arrangement and introspective lyrics.A Prominent example of this would be former punk bands [[Siouxsie and the banshees]] and [[The Damned]].One band would come to prominence in this area for a universal anthem/manifesto of sarcastic humour and obvious Art-rock sound and this was the post-Punk act [[Bauhaus]] with their eponymous 9 minute-long minimalist punk-piece known as ''"Bela Lugosi's Dead"'' first noted on B-rated-F Vampire Film ''"The Hunger'' staring David Bowie.This was one of the key reasons in bringing this musical genre forward to the mainstream of England and much later on a worldwide level.During this period several bands would take on the title of '''Gothic-rock''' and some would even become mainstream for some period mainly [[The Cure]] and [[Siouxsie And the banshees]] whom had several Top-40 hits during their reign in the pop-charts.At this time in the beginning of the mid-eighties bands had been coming about in droves within [[Germany]] and [[France]] with intermingling of the [[New-Wave]] and hipster scenes forming over time what would become two distinct genres of Music known as '''Cold wave''' and '''Dark-wave''' respectively.

== Sound ==
The sound is often seen as a more progressive form of [[Punk]] and is characterised by a more Tribal pattern of drumming alongside Rhythmic and often processed Guitar.Gothic-rock takes and improves upon Punk and its heavy emphasis upon [[Bass-Guitar]] as the prime driver of melody often utilising the [[Phyrgian Mode]] to cause an often wholesome and very warm chord sound.It is also noted for the usage of a [[4/4]] time-signature and the key form of Guitar-playing involving the Down-stroke.

== Fashion ==
The fashion behind this scene is often derived of [[Glam-rock]] androgyny and furthermore the monochromatic(Black,Browns,white etcetera) tones characteristic of its Father genre Punk with an often ethereal twist put upon the imagery and aesthetic preferences of these youth.With such symbols as the [[Ankh]] playing a significant role in an expression of pro-Romanticists ideals.Much like the Punks an emphasis was put upon hone bearing large-hair though unlike the Punks whom had often spiked hair the followers of this Subculture had chosen large,back-combed/teased hair of generally black tones.The bits of androgyny evident within the subculture were often the wearing of [[Makeup]] to accentuate the features of the face and female garb on both men and women I.E. ripped-Hose,Cocktail-dresses,Blouses and the like.

== Bands ==
* [[UK Decay]]
* [[Ghost Dance]]
* [[Skeletal Family]]
* [[Brigandage]]
* [[The Sisters of Mercy]]
* [[The Mission UK]]
* [[Fields Of the Nephilim]]
* [[Bauhaus]]
* [[Siouxsie And the banshees]]
* [[The Cure]]
* [[Speci-Men]]
* [[Flesh For Lulu]]
* [[Gene Loves Jezebel]]
* [[The Bolshoi]]

Gothic-Rock

2009-04-15T17:40:58Z

BjoernM: Created page with ''''Gothic-rock''' evolved primarily as a genre of punk music during the late seventies in certain metropolitan cities of the United Kingdom and Ireland(Luton,[[Leeds]...'

'''Gothic-rock''' evolved primarily as a genre of punk music during the late seventies in certain metropolitan cities of the [[United Kingdom]] and [[Ireland]]([[Luton]],[[Leeds]],[[London]] and in Ireland,[[Dublin]]) often characterised by a more pacifistic,pro-Romanticist nature and lyrical-content and influenced([[Fashion]] and [[Image]] mostly) by the greater-apex of the [[Glam-Rock]] movement and the campy horror of [[B-Rated]] Films.It is often considered to be one of the Forerunners to the greater [[Post-Punk]] movement as a whole.

== Origins ==
Arguably some dictate that it is descended of one singular British-Punk of the late seventies known as [[UK Decay]] whom were interviewed in 1981 by a [[Brussels]] newspaper to which the Headline read ''Le Face of Punk Gothique'' and were deemed erroneously as such for their campy,often humorous emphasis on the Macabre and mysterious.Born of Luton soon enough several bands and their fans had begun to deem their music as '''Punk-Gothique'''(subsequently the fans as Goth) and at a later point '''Gothic-rock''' as it began to annex itself due in part to major popularity largely into a new-subculture separate from that of [[Punk]].During this period an evolution in the London Punk scene had been occurring with bands taking influence and applying more of a psychedelic/Glam-rock influence to their music and imagery whom were often a part of the [[Bromley Contingent]] and fans of [[The Sex Pistols]] began to experiment with a more progressive rhythmic form of Punk with irregular song-arrangement and introspective lyrics.A Prominent example of this would be former punk bands [[Siouxsie and the banshees]] and [[The Damned]].One band would come to prominence in this area for a universal anthem/manifesto of sarcastic humour and obvious Art-rock sound and this was the post-Punk act [[Bauhaus]] with their eponymous 9 minute-long minimalist punk-piece known as ''"Bela Lugosi's Dead"'' first noted on B-rated-F Vampire Film ''"The Hunger'' staring David Bowie.This was one of the key reasons in bringing this musical genre forward to the mainstream of England and much later on a worldwide level.During this period several bands would take on the title of '''Gothic-rock''' and some would even become mainstream for some period mainly [[The Cure]] and [[Siouxsie And the banshees]] whom had several Top-40 hits during their reign in the pop-charts.At this time in the beginning of the mid-eighties bands had been coming about in droves within [[Germany]] and [[France]] with intermingling of the [[New-Wave]] and hipster scenes forming over time what would become two distinct genres of Music known as '''Cold wave''' and '''Dark-wave''' respectively.

== Sound ==
The sound is often seen as a more progressive form of [[Punk]] and is characterised by a more Tribal pattern of drumming alongside Rhythmic and often processed Guitar.Gothic-rock takes and improves upon Punk and its heavy emphasis upon [[Bass-Guitar]] as the prime driver of melody often utilising the [[Phyrgian Mode]] to cause an often wholesome and very warm chord sound.It is also noted for the usage of a [[4/4]] time-signature and the key form of Guitar-playing involving the Down-stroke.

== Fashion ==
The fashion behind this scene is often derived of [[Glam-rock]] androgyny and furthermore the monochromatic(Black,Browns,white etcetera) tones characteristic of its Father genre Punk with an often ethereal twist put upon the imagery and aesthetic preferences of these youth.With such symbols as the [[Ankh]] playing a significant role in an expression of pro-Romanticists ideals.Much like the Punks an emphasis was put upon hone bearing large-hair though unlike the Punks whom had often spiked hair the followers of this Subculture had chosen large,back-combed/teased hair of generally black tones.The bits of androgyny evident within the subculture were often the wearing of [[Makeup]] to accentuate the features of the face and female garb on both men and women I.E. ripped-Hose,Cocktail-dresses,Blouses and the like.

== Bands ==
* [[UK Decay]]
* [[Ghost Dance]]
* [[Skeletal Family]]
* [[Brigandage]]
* [[The Sisters of Mercy]]
* [[The Mission UK]]
* [[Fields Of the Nephilim]]
* [[Bauhaus]]
* [[Siouxsie And the banshees]]
* [[The Cure]]
* [[Speci-Men]]
* [[Sex-Gang Children]]
* [[Alien Sex Fiend]]
* [[Flesh For Lulu]]
* [[Gene Loves Jezebel]]
* [[The Bolshoi]]