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Talk:Satanism

2021-09-08T04:49:09Z

Astaka:

==Nice article!==
[[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 00:49, September 8, 2021 (EDT)

Talk:Ivermectin

2021-09-07T03:33:24Z

Astaka: /* Its kind of ironic that anti-Communist are pushing against big business... */ new section

==No Ivermectin does not help you battling COVID-19==
'''Misleading clinical evidence and systematic reviews on ivermectin for COVID-19''' https://ebm.bmj.com/content/early/2021/05/26/bmjebm-2021-111678 by the BMJ [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:02, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:Joe Rogan just proved you wrong in that department - [https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/media-melts-joe-rogan-says-recovered-covid-3-days-taking-ivermectin-z-pak-video/ Media Melts Down After Joe Rogan Says He Recovered From Covid in 3 Days After Taking Ivermectin, Z-Pak] [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:07, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:: Science is not done by anecdotal evidence. It is done by peer-reviewed clinical trials. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:09, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
:: In fact anecdotal evidence is the worst type of evidence period. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:10, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::So tell me, then. Is it confirmed that [https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/dog-park-study-rape-culture-portland-ungendering-research-initiative/ dogs mating in a dog park proves rape culture]? By your logic, because it was a peer-reviewed paper, it's "confirmed science". Besides, most of those "peer reviews" you cited are closer to [[sham peer review]]s since Fauci, one of the people pushing for clinical trials, was well known for bullying people to get his way. Just ask that female virologist, for example. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 23:43, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::Denying that Ivermectin actually works in dealing with the CCP flu because of political and ideological bias (and because you don't like that it's more effective in doing so than the CCP flu "vaccines" whose developers and financiers, as well as the liberal media and Big Tech, have been pushing ever has or will) does not make any of your claims true. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:21, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::: The beautiful thing about Science is that when you have evidence that shows that you are wrong it is not considered bad to change your mind. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:30, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::: Also drop the rhetoric, it is called '''COVID-19''' and the '''SARS‑CoV‑2 virus'''. I call it by its proper scientific name not its nickname given by the outrage media. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:30, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::::Science [[War on Science|is also manipulated by the Left for political and ideological reasons]], to fit their preconceived narratives and to give them excuses to say and do whatever they please. If you refuse to accept that for those same reasons, that's your issue alone, no one else's. Also, calling conservative media the "outrage media" over calling the CCP flu by its source of origin isn't helping your argument either, whereas the liberal media's reaction to Joe Rogan recovering from the CCP flu after taking Ivermectin and other medications has demonstrated that the liberal media is itself the outrage media. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:42, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

::::::All media loves using outrage as form of getting clicks and views. They need to make money after all. If you guys want to make a encyclopaedia based on facts you need to call things by its proper name given by specialist not by media personalities trying to drive views by exemplifying xenophobia. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:50, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::::: And generally when you are proven wrong you admit you are wrong and move on. Stating "the reason science disagree with me because there is a conspiracy!" is just plain denial plain and simple. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:50, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::::::Except when it's a liberal, who can never admit to being wrong when they are (and you've done nothing but push liberal POVs and engaged in denial of facts - exemplified by your undoings of three edits I made at the [[CCP virus in Canada]] article that got you blocked for a day yesterday - since you first came here, so all you've done is prove my point). [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:59, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

Have you even bothered to read the paper then just spew rhetoric? [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 00:11, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

:Which is exactly what you're doing here yourself, as well as just arguing for the sake of arguing. Also, the authors behind the source you provided at the top have incentive (both political and financial) to lie about Ivermectin in order to push the mRNA gene therapy drugs being falsely claimed as "vaccines", so no dice. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:17, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

Denial [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 00:30, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

:By you, via your denial of the discrediting of your sources and your arguments out of convenience. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:32, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

== Its kind of ironic that anti-Communist are pushing against big business... ==

Seems a bit weird, don't you think... [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:33, September 6, 2021 (EDT)

Talk:Ivermectin

2021-09-02T04:34:40Z

Astaka:

==No Ivermectin does not help you battling COVID-19==
'''Misleading clinical evidence and systematic reviews on ivermectin for COVID-19''' https://ebm.bmj.com/content/early/2021/05/26/bmjebm-2021-111678 by the BMJ [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:02, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:Joe Rogan just proved you wrong in that department - [https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/09/media-melts-joe-rogan-says-recovered-covid-3-days-taking-ivermectin-z-pak-video/ Media Melts Down After Joe Rogan Says He Recovered From Covid in 3 Days After Taking Ivermectin, Z-Pak] [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:07, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:: Science is not done by anecdotal evidence. It is done by peer-reviewed clinical trials. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:09, September 1, 2021 (EDT)
:: In fact anecdotal evidence is the worst type of evidence period. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:10, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::So tell me, then. Is it confirmed that [https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/dog-park-study-rape-culture-portland-ungendering-research-initiative/ dogs mating in a dog park proves rape culture]? By your logic, because it was a peer-reviewed paper, it's "confirmed science". Besides, most of those "peer reviews" you cited are closer to [[sham peer review]]s since Fauci, one of the people pushing for clinical trials, was well known for bullying people to get his way. Just ask that female virologist, for example. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 23:43, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::Denying that Ivermectin actually works in dealing with the CCP flu because of political and ideological bias (and because you don't like that it's more effective in doing so than the CCP flu "vaccines" whose developers and financiers, as well as the liberal media and Big Tech, have been pushing ever has or will) does not make any of your claims true. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:21, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::: The beautiful thing about Science is that when you have evidence that shows that you are wrong it is not considered bad to change your mind. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:30, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::: Also drop the rhetoric, it is called '''COVID-19''' and the '''SARS‑CoV‑2 virus'''. I call it by its proper scientific name not its nickname given by the outrage media. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:30, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::::Science [[War on Science|is also manipulated by the Left for political and ideological reasons]], to fit their preconceived narratives and to give them excuses to say and do whatever they please. If you refuse to accept that for those same reasons, that's your issue alone, no one else's. Also, calling conservative media the "outrage media" over calling the CCP flu by its source of origin isn't helping your argument either, whereas the liberal media's reaction to Joe Rogan recovering from the CCP flu after taking Ivermectin and other medications has demonstrated that the liberal media is itself the outrage media. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:42, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

::::::All media loves using outrage as form of getting clicks and views. They need to make money after all. If you guys want to make a encyclopaedia based on facts you need to call things by its proper name given by specialist not by media personalities trying to drive views by exemplifying xenophobia. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:50, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::::: And generally when you are proven wrong you admit you are wrong and move on. Stating "the reason science disagree with me because there is a conspiracy!" is just plain denial plain and simple. [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 23:50, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

:::::::Except when it's a liberal, who can never admit to being wrong when they are (and you've done nothing but push liberal POVs and engaged in denial of facts - exemplified by your undoings of three edits I made at the [[CCP virus in Canada]] article that got you blocked for a day yesterday - since you first came here, so all you've done is prove my point). [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:59, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

Have you even bothered to read the paper then just spew rhetoric? [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 00:11, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

:Which is exactly what you're doing here yourself, as well as just arguing for the sake of arguing. Also, the authors behind the source you provided at the top have incentive (both political and financial) to lie about Ivermectin in order to push the mRNA gene therapy drugs being falsely claimed as "vaccines", so no dice. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:17, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

Denial [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 00:30, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

:By you, via your denial of the discrediting of your sources and your arguments out of convenience. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 00:32, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

SCIENTIST: Here is tons of evidence that gravity exist!

CONSPIRACY NUT: THERE IS A CONSIPRACY! DON'T YOU GET IT! WAKE UP!! [[User:Astaka|Astaka]] ([[User talk:Astaka|talk]]) 00:34, September 2, 2021 (EDT)

Talk:Ivermectin

2021-09-02T04:30:21Z

Astaka: /* No Ivermectin does not help you battling COVID-19 */

User talk:Northwest

2021-09-02T04:20:10Z

Astaka: /* The question you can't answer */ new section

{{welcome}}[[User:Brenden|brenden]] 23:37, 18 September 2012 (EDT)

== same sex marriage revert? ==

Greetings, and hope you are well. Just wanted to ask, why the revert of my same-sex marriage page edit?

[[User:KatieKomori|KatieKomori]] 10:19, 1 December 2012 (EST)

==Vandal==
A vandal on the loose. [http://www.conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Benkumar] I have told four other editors. If you are able, please block him[[User:U.U|U.U]] ([[User talk:U.U|talk]]) 02:34, 27 February 2016 (EST)
:Thank you. When I see an edit of minus five digits on a page like Republican Party, it's pretty obvious that a vandal swept by. Well done. --[[User:Pious|Pious]] ([[User talk:Pious|talk]]) 22:18, 19 April 2017 (EDT)
::Are you sure that was vandalism? It could have been an inadvertent removal of information when he intended on just adding "pro-capitalism" to the article. I have seen numerous times where this has happened, which an editor adding info but for whatever reason accidently removing a whole bunch of information without even knowing it, and in those other times, it was clearly a mistake. I honestly don't see how it was intentional. I request that you review your block. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 23:35, 19 April 2017 (EDT)
:::It turns out that user was a sock of TAR, and he was blocked by an admin (but for a different reason). Thank you for your work on this site, Northwest. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:43, 20 April 2017 (EDT)

== Expansion of Greatest Conservative TV Shows and Greatest Conservative Movies/Worst Liberal Movies, as well as Star Wars. ==

Hi.

I noticed the great job you did in expanding the Worst Liberal TV Shows, and was wondering whether you are planning to do something similar regarding the Greatest Conservative TV Shows and the Greatest Conservative Movies/Worst Liberal Movies lists (namely the opening paragraphs).

Also, since I noticed you're doing a lot of edits regarding Star Wars currently, I was wondering whether you could expand it to include any real life influences on the characters and franchise. I know that the Empire was largely inspired by America during the time of the Vietnam War, and that the Rebel Alliance was based on the Vietcong (in fact, that's actually the reason why I'm, albeit reluctantly, an Empire supporter now, and probably full time as well). I included a bit regarding Palpatine being directly inspired by Richard Nixon, for example. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 08:53, 3 April 2016 (EDT)

+==
Okay mate, that's enough! If you want to revert my edits then give me reasons that have more veracity than the weasel words you gave in the Summary of one of the pages.
:I have reread the article(s), struggled through TAR's attached blogs, read your [[Northwest]] edit history and have realised you have no real understanding or knowledge of the words involved. Nor do you understand it is not advisable to link to non-existent pages which your reverts always do.
:I am about to revert... again! If you revert me without good reason I will ban you.
:[[User:AlanE|AlanE]] ([[User talk:AlanE|talk]]) 00:59, 13 April 2016 (EDT)

== re: Lenin quote in Bourgeoisie article ==

re: [[Bourgeoisie]] article

AlanE is acting in good faith about the Lenin quote: http://www.azcentral.com/story/claythompson/2014/10/13/lenin-ronald-reagan-quotes/17226727/

If you want to discuss the matter of the historicity of the quote with AlanE on the talk page of the article, here is a useful resource: [http://historiansgaze.blogspot.com/2009/10/7-habits-of-highly-effective-historians.html 7 habits of highly effective historians]

Thanks. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 02:31, 13 April 2016 (EDT)

== re: your note to me ==

I respond to your email from me.

Second, I will write a note to AlanE.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:04, 13 April 2016 (EDT)

== Princess and the Frog revert. ==

Just writing because I'm not sure why you reverted the Princess and the Frog removal from Worst Liberal Movies. The movie promoteshard work and family while condemning hedonism and nihilism and p k it's out the danger of accepting handouts and feeling entitled. This seems to me to be a deeply conservative film. --[[User:Whizkid|Whizkid]] ([[User talk:Whizkid|talk]]) 07:47, 1 June 2016 (EDT)

==Evolution==
A simple question: do you believe in it, Creationism, or otherwise?--[[User:Pious|Pious]] ([[User talk:Pious|talk]]) 03:29, 23 August 2016 (EDT)

==Account promoted==
Your account has just been given a promotion to 24x7 editing and blocking privileges. Congratulations!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 22:02, 6 March 2017 (EST)
:Congratulations! You do very good work on this wiki, which I appreciate. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 22:20, 6 March 2017 (EST)
::Congrats! Keep up the good work! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:55, 6 March 2017 (EST)
:::Congratulations. It is good working with you. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 03:36, 7 March 2017 (EST)
==JohnZ==
Dear Northwest, I changed your two-year block to 1 day for [[User:JohnZ]]. While I do not like profanity, I think that we should show a kind and understanding approach to users who have been around for years. Let's give him a second chance, and if he does it again, then we would be justified in coming down hard. This is a volunteer project, and CP wants to avoid a reputation of long-blocks-at-the-drop-of-a-hat. Thank you for your understanding. [[User:JDano|JDano]] ([[User talk:JDano|talk]]) 14:57, 12 March 2017 (EDT)

==I like that==
Replace "religion" with "ideology™. Because of certain legal issues the US will face in the future, I go out of my way never to refer the a certain collective entity as a "faith" or "religion". " Political system" I use a lot, but haven't of thought of "ideology". We should collect a whole basket of different terms that can be used, and always insert them wherever necessary. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|''CIA v Trump updated score'':CIA 3, Trump 2]] 05:10, 2 April 2017 (EDT)

== IRC ==

Hello, 
After some discussion (on [[User_talk:DavidB4#Conservapedia_IRC_channel|my talk page]] and [[User_talk:Aschlafly#IRC|Andy's]]) it has been decided that I start an [[Internet Relay Chat]] channel for Conservapedia, since our old one has been dead since 2009. It is now registered and somewhat set up. I don't know if you use IRC or are interested in doing so, but anyone with block privileges on Conservapedia can also get block privileges on the new IRC channel. Unfortunately, IRC accounts are deleted after 30 days of being unused, so unless you plan on using the IRC at least once a month, there is probably not much point in registering. In any case, feel free to try it out--if you account gets deleted, we can always make another one later. If you are interested, please let me know! 
The IRC channel is: #conservapedia @irc.accessIRC.net 
Let me know if you have any questions or need anything else, also! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 15:36, 11 April 2017 (EDT)

== Blocking of User:Misslizzynj ==

Please don't block new users due to the name policy unless they have usernames that are obviously offensive or silly. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:58, 11 May 2017 (EDT)

== Length of blocks ==

Hello Northwest, Andy recently messaged me on my talk page and told me to refrain from using blocks longer than around six months because many people's IP addresses change by then. I see you changed the length of a block for an impersonator of you, and I am not going to challenge that, but please refrain from doing long blocks for non-serious vandalism, per what Andy told me. Thanks. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 16:37, 2 August 2017 (EDT)

== Trolls ==

Don't feed them. Block them and move on. I would have emailed this to you, but you don't seem to have email activated. [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 16:04, 27 October 2017 (EDT)
:Just block trolls. Do not communicate with them.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:22, 27 October 2017 (EDT)

== Blocking of User:Whizkid ==

One comment, as blunt and rude as it may have been, is not enough to block a long-time editor for any amount of time. You should have warned him about making such comments first. Don't ever make such a block again.

While I'm commenting here, you realize that the links [[Democrat Party]] and [[Democratic Party]] link to two different articles? I see that you're changing every link to "Democrat Party" (which I support, for the most part), but you're having every article link to a different article. Please change the links so they link to the actual article about the party, even if you pipe it so the reader sees "Democrat Party." --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 21:32, 8 January 2018 (EST)

:It was made clear to me when I was promoted to Assistant SysOp that this role is only for blocking blatant vandals, not working in good faith. While I haven't carefully studied the issue, he was disputing your changes in good faith. As [[Conservapedia:User_rights#Blocking_rights|officially stated]], only full administrators are to resolve disputes. Just because you have the block button doesn't mean you should use it whenever someone disagrees. In your defense, edit warring is discouraged, but it takes two to edit war. If you are the one making a change, then it is reasonable to assume that the original version should take precedence until the dispute can be resolved. Please discuss it with an administrator rather than just blocking someone. Should he have kept reverting your changes? Probably not. Should you have kept forcing your change back in? Probably not. Please take it to an admin next time, rather than just abusing the block button. Thank you. --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 22:28, 8 January 2018 (EST)

::First of all, I apologize for being rude. It was a fit of pique, brought on by my feeling you weren't paying any attention to what I was saying. Still, it was inappropriate, and I don't believe you're vandalizing the site, or that you're attempting to be deceitful. So I hope that you can forgive me and we can come to the understanding that, even if we disagree on things, we're both working for what we believe to be the good, and we should treat each other with respect and charity. I hope we can agree on that much at least.

::That being said, I still strongly disagree with your position about this, and don't feel that it's ultimately good for the site, but I have no desire to get into an edit war with you that won't do anything but waste both our time. So maybe we could agree to make our cases before an administrator or someone, for the sake of harmony, and get a decision on this. Let me know what you think.--[[User:Whizkid|Whizkid]] ([[User talk:Whizkid|talk]]) 23:32, 8 January 2018 (EST)

== Liberal Denial revert? ==

Why did you do this? We know that the ultimate goal of liberals is to do more than just censor Christianity in America. A site made for American conservatives should be about politics as much as it is about religion.

[[User:MacTavish|MacTavish]] ([[User talk:MacTavish|talk]]) 16:44, 29 January 2018 (EST)

== Please backup your recent edits ==

Please try to either save a copy of your recent edits, or just refrain from editing for the next 24 hours or so. Conservapedia is changing web servers, and there is a risk that pages might be exported before you make the change, meaning your change will be lost. Thanks for understanding! --[[User:DavidB4|David B]] ([[User talk:DavidB4|TALK]]) 17:56, 12 March 2018 (EDT)

== Islam ==

I saw you reverting my edits to the article on [[Islam]]. There is a belief system to Islam, but it's more about worshiping an ''ideology'' than any God or gods. Even so, the source cited says Islam "…is an amalgam of social, political and judicial systems '''as well as''' a belief system. It is neither one thing nor the other – Islam is unique."

== Marijuana article ==

Did you see that there was a talk page discussion on the marijuana article about the content in question? I recommend that you explain [http://www.conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Marijuana&curid=7524&diff=1412346&oldid=1412214 your reverting] there and reach an agreement with the other editors, and I strongly recommend that you leave an edit summary when you revert. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 20:35, 4 April 2018 (EDT)
:Same, an edit summary would really be helpful there to clarify your intent. Did you read the Talk page discussion about how those portions of the lede undermine our argument? Please see [[Talk:Marijuana#Objections_to_presentation_of_lead]]. [[User:DavidLReyes|DavidLReyes]] ([[User talk:DavidLReyes|talk]]) 21:27, 4 April 2018 (EDT)

== Discussing Christian Denominations on This Site ==

I am someone who believes very staunchly in the five solas. I think that Ephesians 2:8-9 indicates the validity of Sola Gratia and Sola Fide, John 14:6 for Solo Christo, and Psalm 115 for Sola Deo Gloria. I am not here to debate religious issues with you, but as you are a high-ranking admin on this site and Catholic, I have to ask you, what would you do if you saw edits to certain articles promoting a Protestant point of view? [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 12:58, 16 December 2018 (EST)

== My Ban ==

Hi, I was banned for making edits that I thought were accurate on the Political Spectrum page under my account Classical Liberal. I didn't know how to contact you, so I created this page instead so I could. I'm really sorry. I'm a new user who just registered within the same hour of getting banned, I am a conservative, but I prefer that we take our title of being the liberals back, I'm not a troll, and I'm a student who's interested in politics and all I'm trying to do is inform people about modern conservatives so women and minorities aren't deceived anymore and will come back home to the Republican Party. I don't see how my edits were lies or revisionist history. I was just trying to inform people who wrongly accuse us of what the Democrats did like the Trail of Tears, slavery, secession, and segregation because they always claim whenever you tell them that the Democrats were responsible for all of it that that's when the Democrats were the conservative party because they think that the parties switched and since I learned that the word liberal was redefined in the 1930s, I also thought the word conservative was redefined as well and that classical conservatism meant modern liberalism now just like how classical liberalism means modern conservatism now. I thought that I should've informed people that the conservatives of the past who the modern liberals pin the actions of on us modern conservatives were the modern liberals because the word liberal was hijacked from us and redefined and they like to accredit modern liberals for the things we classical liberals and modern conservatives actually did before the word liberalism was redefined. They'll argue with us conservatives and tell us that Lincoln would be a Democrat since he was a liberal because they don't realize that he was a liberal when the definitions of liberal and conservative were reversed. They believe the parties were reversed instead. I thought that since we were called the liberals in the past before they hijacked and redefined the term for themselves, they were called the conservatives because they're trying to pin the Trail of Tears, slavery, secession, and segregation on modern conservatives and blame us for it and insist that since Democrats are now called the liberals and Republicans are called the conservatives, that the parties switched rather than the definitions of liberal and conservative. I thought this was the correct explanation since liberals of today whenever you point out the Democrats' history say "that's when the Republicans were the liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives and Lincoln would be a Democrat today since the liberal party is the Democratic Party now." They're unaware that when we were the liberal party, that the word liberal did not mean what it does now. I was just trying to clear the confusion that the Democrats created up when they redefined the word liberal and hijacked it from us. I thought that since classical liberalism means what modern conservatism does, classical conservatism must've meant what modern liberalism does now because I thought that since we were called the liberals before the New Deal, that the Democrats must've been called the conservatives then because what else would that have made them if we were called the liberals before the New Deal and conservatives after? If we were called liberals prior to the New Deal, what were they called? Conservatives wanting to keep blacks enslaved and minorities and women oppressed who had a bad reputation and stole our term? And I thought that them stealing the term liberal from us and us having to call ourselves the conservatives instead of liberals which we used to be called was part of their plan to push the party switch myth 30 years later because we have the title of conservative and they have the title of liberal that they stole from us and I thought the Democrats did this to make it look like the parties switched instead of the titles and to make it look like they were the good guys since they're now called "liberals" instead and no longer us which we used to be called until they hijacked the term from us. I thought this was the best way to debunk the claim that modern conservatives of the Republican Party who used to be called liberals prior to the definition switch had anything to do with what the Democrats did in the past. I thought that if being a conservative meant what being a liberal meant before the word was redefined, that being a liberal meant what being a conservative meant because I thought that since the term liberal belonged to us at one time, the term conservative must've belonged to them and that if classical liberalism means modern conservatism, classical conservatism must mean modern liberalism. You see where I'm getting at? I thought that if the word liberal belonged to us at one time, the word conservative belonged to them if we were called the liberals because what is the opposite of liberal? Conservative. And I thought that since the word liberal had a different definition, the word conservative had a different definition too. So I'm sorry if I in your words inserted historical revisionism and lies. That was not my intent. My intent was to clear up confusion, not create it. I want people to stop accrediting modern liberals for what we did and stop claiming that we used to be the Democrats and that the Republicans used to be what Democrats are now which is not true. I'm new to all this and I'm a beginner. I'll probably need some help with editing. I'm still learning my history. History and philosophy and studying the Bible are my favorite things. I'm obsessed with politics. I'm really good at explaining things and I was just trying to help. You could've just let me know where you thought I was wrong instead of slapping a 2-year ban on me. If unbanned, from now on, I will verify with you the things I want to add to pages before I add them so this won't happen again. Please give me another chance. I'm only a guy in his late teens whose been into politics for 7 years now. I share your information with everyone I can and I've convinced many family members to become Republicans while even being disowned by several others which you could just imagine how that makes someone feel. Especially someone my age. {{unsigned|Modern Conservative}}
:I have unblocked the "Classical Liberal" account. I strongly recommend you first go to the article talk pages before making changes like this before unilaterally making them. Then, we can discuss those changes, which will be helpful. --[[User:1990'sguy|1990'sguy]] ([[User talk:1990'sguy|talk]]) 08:59, 11 February 2019 (EST)

== Sissy punk site ==

[[User_talk:DMorris/Archive_1#Sissy_punks|Per Jpatt and the late TK, I would try to avoid mentioning that vandal site at all, fair enough?]] [[User:DMorris|DMorris]] ([[User talk:DMorris|talk]]) 21:10, 24 March 2019 (EDT)

The atheist page has straw man arguments and generalisations against atheism like that atheism is a worldview. You cannot just delete and ban everybody that doesn't agree with you. The evolution page is full of inconsistencies too.

== New show ==

Hey, since you seem to be the most active person on the [[Essay:Greatest_Conservative_TV_Shows|Greatest Conservative TV Shows]] page I figured you might want to add Preacher to the page. It is about a disgraced preacher coming back to church and trying to find God.

== Please help defend Catholicism from the baiters! ==

Hi Northwest, if you have the time, can you please look out for the Catholic-baiters on this site (RobSmith, Conservative, VargasMilan, and Shobson20) and rebuke them if need be? They have [[User talk:NishantXavier|harshly attacked NishantXavier on his talk page]], and it's evident that they spread lies, smears, baiting rhetoric, and mischaracterizations to "prove" their points, which are often times fallacious. Thank you! —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Thursday, 15:03, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

:Don't listen to him, he has as much of a victim complex as BLM supporters. Actually, the most mature thing you can do is not get involved in this argument like you have all along. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 16:06, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

::Wait, I have the victim mentality in the same manner of BLM idiots? Need I remind you, Shobson20, for the gazillionth time that ''you'' were the one whining immediately after NishantXavier was promoted and you weren't yet? —[[User:Liberaltears|Liberaltears]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May Dataclarifier be well!]] | [[Special:Contributions/Liberaltears|Don't be an anti-Catholic zealot!]]''''' Thursday, 16:10, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

:::Deflection. You've done plenty of whining yourself and STILL doing it. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 16:33, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

:::You're the one who's posting on other people's talk pages trying to get them involved, not us. First you tried to get Karajou, now Northwest. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 18:18, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

I'm really sorry this guy is trying to drag you into his fight. If you want to, you can contribute [[Debate:Does the Catholic Church have the biblical authority of Christ Himself to preach and to teach the truth forever?| this debate page]]. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 17:01, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

The truth is that a Catholic vs. Protestant argument was getting out of hand, so User:Conservative suggested making that debate page to make the debate more structured and civil. Since then, both sides have been mostly talking there, but Liberaltears just can't let things go. [[User:Shobson20|Shobson20]] ([[User talk:Shobson20|talk]]) 17:10, 23 July 2020 (EDT)

== Great to see you around again! ==

Great to see you back, Northwest! How are you doing? —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Friday, 00:26, 9 October 2020 (EDT)

==Check this out==
[https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2020/10/11/murder-for-ratings/ Murder for Ratings]. I'm fairly certain I put the assault by Jacob Lebron Kelly at a Sanders rally in the February 2020 list of violence. I'm checking it now. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 20:27, 13 October 2020 (EDT)

Here it is https://www.conservapedia.com/Left-wing_violence_in_the_Trump_era_(2020)#cite_note-49 and footnote 50

== Juvenile Delinquent ==

What can we do, if the Juvenile Delinquent comes after us? He came after me again. --[[User:United States|United States]] ([[User talk:United States|talk]]) 19:41, 2 December 2020 (EST)

== A note about that troll ==

Please don't take this the wrong way, but the troll whose socks you were quick to block was probably trying to make a fool out of you and CP in general. Since the imbecile thought that you would immediately block him upon sight, he trolls you with usernames like [https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=&user=&page=User%3ALightningBlocks&year=&month=-1&tagfilter= this] to prove he's correct in a sense and make us look paranoid. —[[User:Liberaltears|<code>'''LT'''</code>]]'''''[[User:Liberaltears/mail|May D.C., his mother, and I.S. be all well!]]''''' Friday, 22:50, 31 December 2020 (EST)

== Please help formulate the Mission Statement ==

I need input on [[Conservapedia:Mission Statement]]. Please contribute. I want Conservapedia to leave Wikipedia in its dust.--[[User:Amorrow|Amorrow]] ([[User talk:Amorrow|talk]]) 01:22, 21 January 2021 (EST)

==Chimpout==
Good catch on User:Chimpout. [https://conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Chimpout] I never would have caught it. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 03:25, 30 January 2021 (EST)
:Just doing what needs to be done. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 03:26, 30 January 2021 (EST)

== Debate ==

:Hi Northwest. I would like to get your input on a debate page I just created [[Debate:Should the United States attack Pakistan?]]. Thanks.[[User:Bytemsbu|Bytemsbu]] ([[User talk:Bytemsbu|talk]]) 21:37, 1 February 2021 (EST)

+
==Proposal==
We would appreciate your input at [[Conservapedia:Community_Portal#Proposal]]. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 19:59, 1 February 2021 (EST)
:You have no real interest in "civil" discussion, only to be disruptive, to act in an uncivil manner and to hide comments I make specifically calling you out for your behavior here in the past four days because you don't like what I have to say. Karajou's even had to undo what you're trying to do, but your reversals of his undos show that you're just not interested in doing the right thing and would rather seize power here and do exactly what Pokeria1 pointed out you're trying to do - take Conservapedia in a more leftward direction, which is not what this site is about. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 22:12, 1 February 2021 (EST)
== Thanks ==
Thanks for the tremendous blocking last night on the avalanche of vandal accounts. Today I've written and installed a program to minimize that from occurring again. Really appreciate your blocks!--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 16:07, 3 February 2021 (EST)

== re: RobS ==

Later in this week, I will be attempting to mediate the dispute involving RobS as RobS creates a lot of content.

In the meantime and in the future, please do not provoke RobS. I cannot stress this enough.

Also, thank you for all your contributions to Conservapedia.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 18:08, 9 February 2021 (EST)
:Who was this topic made by? --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi ~ Talk]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 04:31, 9 February 2021 (EST)

== Re: your editing warring with RobS about Obama's birthplace ==

Northwest, you wrote about Obama: "because of him not being a natural-born citizen".

At Conservapedia, you cannot '''definitively state''' that Obama was not a natural born citizen because there is no definitive/absolute/direct proof to that effect. The best you can do is point out that certain sources/people suspect that Obama was not a natural born citizen for X, Y, Z, etc. reasons. If you are definitively insisting that Obama was not a natural born citizen in articles, please stop. In many cases, historical claims are probabilistic. This is one of those cases.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 20:34, 10 February 2021 (EST)

== Why are you and rob fighting ==

Why. --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi ~ Talk]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 01:03, 20 February 2021 (EST)

== RobS' talk page. It's his castle ==

Please stop endeavoring to retain your postings on RobS' user talk page.

As per Mr. Schlafly, "We respect users' control over their own talk pages as much as possible. Wikipedia treats users' own talk pages like government or public property, and it becomes a place for Wikipedia editors to bully users."[https://www.conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:How_Conservapedia_Differs_from_Wikipedia] Source: [[Conservapedia:How Conservapedia Differs from Wikipedia]].[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:25, 21 February 2021 (EST)
:Also, "Your user page/discussion pages, are indeed your castle, from which you can agree, disagree and discuss issues as you will. However you cannot use them to bully, ridicule (make fun of) or attack (denigrate) Conservapedia or other users, and their opinions. Users are free to remove comments from their own user talk pages."[https://conservapedia.com/Conservapedia:Guidelines] Source: [[Conservapedia:Guidelines]].[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 17:28, 21 February 2021 (EST)

== There’s no RationalWiki article yet. ==

Why is that? --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi ~ Talk]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 07:42, 2 March 2021 (EST)
:Basically denying the site traffic. Probably for the best. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 08:22, 2 March 2021 (EST)
::Multiple admins there are ruining what was already a bad site and made it even worse --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi ~ Talk]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 08:23, 2 March 2021 (EST)

== Don't take content disputes to user talk pages. It unnecessarily inflames matters. Keep things on the article talk pages ==

You immediately took a content dispute to a user's personal talk page.

You shouldn't immediately take content disputes to a user's talk page. It unnecessarily inflames matters. Keep things on the article talk pages and endeavor to have a cordial, constructive dialogue with the person to resolve matters. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 04:09, 29 March 2021 (EDT)

=== Re: Don't take content disputes to user talk pages ===
Unfortunately, that was easier said than done when RobS chose ''not'' to be cordial or constructive (as per his history) with me or other editors during the kerfuffle back in January that led to his being desysopped and stripped of his admin powers. [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 04:32, 29 March 2021 (EDT)
:For all parties involved, I suggest practicing forgiveness and trying to start things over with a new slate.

:I have been talking to Andy about this matter and he wants greater civility and constructive dialogue by all parties involved.

:This coming weekend, I will be talking to Andy about upgrading Conservapedia's civility guidelines.

:In addition, I will be talking to Andy about Conservapedia articles/content having an more encyclopedic tone. Why? Because Andy raised this issue with me and would like to see Conservapedia have a more encyclopedic tone in all cases where it is important to do so (I will explain this matter). Encyclopedia articles should first and foremost be designed to inform and shouldn't go out of their way to troll. For example, as far as a an article dispute you had with RobS, you insisted that the word "transgender" be struck out and "gender confusion" be used instead because you said that liberals don't like the phrase "gender confusion". But the purpose of articles is not to tick off liberals, but to inform the public. From what I understand, the topic had to do with transgenderism so when you insisted that "gender confusion" be used it unnecessarily clouded the meaning of the article as that is a broader term. Even when I write on provocative topics like [[Gay bowel syndrome]], [[Homosexuality and Parasites|Homosexuality and parasites]], [[Atheism, pederasty and NAMBLA]] and [[Atheism and bestiality]], I make every effort to keep the articles encyclopedic in tone. I am also not a fan of RobS using "Biden junta" for article titles or article content. The term "Biden junta" is fine for essays, but not articles in my estimation. Andy wants main page right content to have a more encyclopedic tone too. I plan on talking to RobS about this matter this coming weekend and to talk to Andy about this matter too. In short, if you want content to have a very provocative tone, that is fine, but do it in essays.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:10, 29 March 2021 (EDT)
::I upgraded the [[Conservapedia:Guidelines|Conservapedia guidelines]] as far as the civility portion. I will be talking to Andy this week to get it approved.

::This is my addition: "For content disputes, be reasonable and make every effort to use an article's talk page to have a cordial and constructive dialogue. Stick to the facts in content disputes and back up your facts with a source or sources. If you are proposing alternative content, it must be sourced. Do not engage in personal attacks. Avoid bringing up irrelevant past disputes with editors and stick to the content dispute at hand. If you have a content dispute with another editor, do not immediately post to the other editor's personal talk page. The article talk pages is where the vast majority of discussion should take place. Avoid unneccesary content disputes by sourcing your article content."[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 05:24, 29 March 2021 (EDT)

:::Well, what I actually stated in my edit summaries was that since this is a conservative wiki, use of liberal-preferred terms should be avoided except in certain contexts (such as in quotes made by public figures, or names of liberal organizations). If liberals don't like their preferred terms not being used, that's their issue, but giving in on that subject is essentially a matter of "give them an inch..." (or to be more specific, give liberals an inch and they'll eventually demand the distance between Earth and Pluto, as they always do). [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 06:43, 29 March 2021 (EDT)

::::The issue has more to do with the selection of popular and trending keywords occurring in Google searches to generate traffic, rankings, and exposure. Any differences in meaning on an ideological plane can be spelled out in text. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 07:04, 29 March 2021 (EDT)

:::::Really? You're using Google searches for viability? Newsflash, Google manipulates search results. We even have an entire article on the subject on here. Even if we kowtow to Liberal redefining of things, Google STILL will end up manipulating search results to block us out. Better be a pure conservative site than sacrifice even a small amount of conservativism under the belief it would give us more traffic. If anything, you should go by DuckDuckGo or even Bing. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 07:14, 29 March 2021 (EDT)

::::::You are correct. Here's my revised statement: "The issue has more to do with the selection of popular and trending keywords occurring in <s>Google</s> searches to generate traffic, rankings, and exposure. Any differences in meaning on an ideological plane can be spelled out in text." I removed the offensive proper noun. That should be helpful now, [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 14:17, 29 March 2021 (EDT)
Andy approved my addition to the civility portion of the [[Conservapedia:Guidelines|Conservapedia guidelines]].[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:32, 29 March 2021 (EDT)
::This is the update I created: "For content disputes, be reasonable and make every effort to use an article's talk page to have a cordial and constructive dialogue. Stick to the facts in content disputes and back up your facts with a source or sources. If you are proposing alternative content in a content dispute, it must be sourced. Do not engage in personal attacks. Avoid bringing up irrelevant past disputes with editors and stick to the content dispute at hand. If you have a content dispute with another editor, do not immediately post to the other editor's personal talk page. The article talk pages is where the vast majority of discussion should take place. Avoid unnecessary content disputes by sourcing your article content."[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:35, 29 March 2021 (EDT)

== Re: latest edit war with RobS ==

As far as your latest edit war with RobS, If you are going to source material, please do better than Quora or sites like it such as Yahoo Answers. Anyone can put material on sites like that. The fourth footnote for the [[Conservapedia:Commandments|Conservapedia Commandments]] indicates, "Sources should be authoritative works, not merely published opinions by others. No sources advocating or supporting unlawful activity of any kind are allowed."

Quora is not an authoritative work.

Under the new civility rules update that Andy approved, it does state you have to properly source material.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 09:01, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

== Friendly invite to a new Conservapedia project ==

Hello Northwest! I hope you are having a good day. I wanted to invite you to [[Conservapedia:Project Current Events]] since it is a new project that I recently started. The goal of the project is to improve Conservapedia within current events, Hopefully you will consider joining. --[[User:Elijahandskip|Elijahandskip]] ([[User talk:Elijahandskip|talk]]) 12:36, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

== RobS and Northwest content disputes involving historical matters ==

I see a lot of disputes between RobS and NorthWest involving historical disputes. Below I give some great rules of weighing historical evidence.

=== Recommendations related to historical claims made by this article and information related to historiography ===

*[http://amorebeautifulquestion.com/historians-view-of-questioning/ Some keen insights from Pulitzer Prize–winner David Hackett Fischer]

*[http://historiansgaze.blogspot.com/2013/09/history-1701-reading-for-week-two.html Introduction to history]

*[http://historiansgaze.blogspot.com/2009/10/7-habits-of-highly-effective-historians.html 7 habits of highly effective historians]

"Fischer, David Hackett, Historians’ Fallacies: Toward a Logic of Historical Thought (New York: Harper Collins, 1970). In only approximately 300 pages, Fischer surveys an immense amount of background historical literature to point out a comprehensive variety of analytical errors that many, if not most, historians commit. Fischer points out specific examples of faulty or sloppy reasoning in the work of even the most prominent historians, making it a useful book for beginning students of history. While this book presumably did not make Fischer popular with many of his peers, it should be noted that his contributions as a historian have not been limited simply to criticizing the work of others; since 1976, he has published a number of well-received books on other historical topics."[http://history.nasa.gov/thinking/hist-4.html]

==== Fischer's 7 habits of sound historiography ====

Fischer's 7 rules for historians taken from [[Josh McDowell]]'s book The New Evidence that Demands a Verdict:

(1) The burden of proof for a historical claim is always upon the one making the assertion.

(2) Historical evidence must be an answer to the question asked and not to any other question.

(3) "An historian must not merely provide good evidence, but the best evidence. And the best evidence, all other things being equal, is the evidence which is most nearly immediate to the event itself."

(4) Evidence must always be affirmative. Negative evidence is no evidence at all. In other words, Fischer is saying that an absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence.

(5) The meaning of any historical evidence is dependent upon the context from which it is obtained from.

(6) "An empirical statement must not be more precise than its evidence warrants."

(7) "All inferences from historical evidence are probabilistic."

Josh McDowell's Evidence that Demands a Verdict, page 674, 1999, Mark MCGarry, Texas Type and Book Works, Dallas, TX, ISBN 0-7852-4219-8)

=== Fischer's 6 principles of question framing for historical investigations ===

*[https://sites.google.com/site/historiography101fischer/ Fischer's 6 principles of question framing] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 11:11, 9 May 2019 (EDT)

I hope this helps. [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 12:46, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

== re: your edit to the European migrant crisis article ==

Please look at this edit of yours: https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=European_migrant_crisis&diff=prev&oldid=1309224 which you posted in 2017.

1990sguy and RobS spent countless hours on the article.

I want to focus on one aspect of your edit to that article. In 2017, after Barack Obama served 8 years as the president of the USA, your edit indicated the following and I will quote it : "When Barack Hussein Obama became "president"". Norwest, when you posted "president", with no explanation, its obvious your intent was to merely "stick it to the libs" and not to educate the public. The purpose of an encylopedia is to inform the public and not merely to upset people who hold to a certain political ideology.

Now in an article devoted to specific topic of [[Barack Hussein Obama]] one can certainly briefly go over the pro/con arguments of Obama's actual birthplace (like the various arguments of computer experts on Obama's online long form birth certificate giving the pro-con arguments of the various computer experts opinions on its authenticity). In addition, in that main Obama arrticle one can have a link to a longer article specifically geared to the issue of Obama's birthplace controversy.

But an article which merely refers to "President" Obama for example is potentially confusing to the reader as he/she may not know what it means. For example, a young person in India who reads "President" Obama could easily be confused on why the quotation marks are there.

One the reasons why I shared Fischer's rules above is to point out that historical investigations/conclusions are often probabilistic. A historian looking into the birthplace of Obama would carefully weigh all the evidence and after doing so would not make dogmatic statements like "Obama was definitely not born in the USA" because he would actually have no absolute certainty. For example, I know that one Republican computer expert said the online rendition of Barack Obama's birth certification document was a bona fide copy of Obama's birth certificate. Some computer experts on the other hand say the online, long form birth certificate was a fraud.

If you stick the facts in articles and not needlessly inject opinions that claim to be facts, you will have more harmony with other editors.[[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 23:41, 31 March 2021 (EDT)

==Re: Trump Reverts==
Thanks for leaving a message. You bring up a very good point about whether Joe Biden should even legally be in power, because of how greatly distrusted last year's election was. But it also raises the question of, if Joe Biden is not the legal president, then who is? It can't be Donald Trump, because he failed to win Michigan, Georgia, and Arizona (which had no voting law changes and the suburbs and working-class voters there were almost certainly going to hand the state to Joe Biden), so massive voter fraud in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, which was declined by a leftist agenda of the courts in those locations, would not have been able to change the election. Plus, courts with a political agenda are nothing new either. Bush v. Gore, for example, only favored Bush because of a rightist agenda of the court. So even if there was massive voter fraud in the 2020 election like we suspect, don't courts and local election officials serve the bottom line for presidential legitimacy? Not only do I find it very unlikely that Republican officials wish to promote a big-government leftist agenda, but the reason I say all this is because even if Joe Biden didn't receive as many votes as it seemed in 2020, he may still be a legal president. Even if it is the fault of the people who ran the election, the Biden administration may not be the one to blame. - [[User:TrumpLover84|TrumpLover84]]([[User talk:TrumpLover84|talk]])

==Vandal patrol==
While on vandal patrol, you missed the most obvious. [https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Stacey_Abrams&curid=152713&diff=1741677&oldid=1717133 This edit] claims Stacey Abrams is a bizarre conspiracy theorist cause she accused brian Kemp and Brad Raffensperger of election rigging with voting machines before Sidney Powell or Donald Trump did.

== Question ==

Do I use infobox officeholder or dictator bio for this person https://conservapedia.com/Albert_René as he was accused of using torture against people. --[[User:Yeschayi|Yeschayi ~ Talk!]] ([[User talk:Yeschayi|talk]]) 19:28, 25 April 2021 (EDT)

==Conservapedia Guidelines==
[[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Civility]] states:
*''Your user page/discussion pages, are indeed your castle, from which you can agree, disagree and discuss issues as you will. However '''you cannot use them to bully, ridicule (make fun of) or attack (denigrate) Conservapedia or other users''', and their opinions.''
You Userpage mainspace presently has an attack upon another CP editor placed by you. [https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User:Northwest&curid=123230&diff=1753219&oldid=1752798] Please remove the abusive content. Thank you. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 16:58, 10 May 2021 (EDT)
:If you ask me, the only one actually coming across as a bully is you, Rob. And quite frankly, I have to agree with Northwest, your actions are coming across as unjust, and more likely to aid the liberal agenda as it is. We formed Conservapedia specifically to get AWAY from the liberal bias that is Wikipedia. We cannot allow ourselves to become Wikipedia-lite. [[User:Pokeria1|Pokeria1]] ([[User talk:Pokeria1|talk]]) 23:22, 10 May 2021 (EDT)

==John Wayne==
Why don't you go fix the [[John Wayne]] article and change it to [[Marion Wayne]]? [https://turtledove.fandom.com/wiki/John_Wayne] [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 23:04, 21 May 2021 (EDT)
:And how was my edit summary regarding the Bruce Jenner article a "snide comment" (which you yourself are guilty of leaving in other past edits of yours[https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&diff=next&oldid=1730163][https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Aschlafly&diff=next&oldid=1730429]), even though it was not - it simply stated the truth, which you then proceeded to hide (and in so doing, makes you look guilty of covering up that truth) by hiding that summary and by protecting the [[Bruce Jenner]] redirect[https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Bruce_Jenner&action=history] to prevent a move back to what the article should be - which, in your doing, makes it look like you're trying to coddle, enable and encourage a mental disorder instead of treating it as what it is.[https://fwipetitions.org/fwi/16-facts-on-gender-confusion/]

:And, oh yeah - [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Civility|civility]], remember? [[User:Northwest|Northwest]] ([[User talk:Northwest|talk]]) 23:43, 21 May 2021 (EDT)

Don't worry. You don't have edit war with [https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=User_talk:Northwest&diff=next&oldid=1758240 the guy harassing you.] I reverted to [https://conservapedia.com/index.php?title=Jehovah%27s_Witnesses&curid=24281&action=history your version] and locked the page. Thanks. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 23:55, 21 May 2021 (EDT)

==Unjustified block==
The blockee here was not "lying". [https://conservapedia.com/Special:Contributions/Rozovoevino] [https://clarion.causeaction.com/2021/05/21/house-candidate-says-he-impregnated-14-year-old-when-he-was-18/] He should have been asked for a citation and more context. [[User:RobSmith|RobS]][[User talk:RobSmith|Free Kyle!]] 13:55, 22 May 2021 (EDT)

== Earlier I had View source message and couldn't edit? ==

Does Conservapedia ever lock its editing at night to only trusted contributors? I couldn't edit earlier & the edit tab was displayed as "View source". [[User:Patriotic Gamer|Patriotic Gamer]] ([[User talk:Patriotic Gamer|talk]]) 09:23, 26 May 2021 (EDT)
:Got it, that's what I thought. Good idea for you guys to do that. By the way, have I been doing good thus far? I've noticed that you've been adding some articles as well, such as episodes on [[Popeye the Sailor]]. Has Conservapedia expanded its scope in recent times (especially because liberalism is slowly corrupting more and more things). [[User:Patriotic Gamer|Patriotic Gamer]] ([[User talk:Patriotic Gamer|talk]]) 11:01, 26 May 2021 (EDT)

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In [[Canada]], the country's state-run [[single payer]] healthcare system has buckled under the strain of the [[CCP virus]].<ref>https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/04/15/canadas-government-run-health-care-buckles-under-covid-19/</ref> With the onset of the [[CCP flu pandemic]] after Communist [[China]] unleashed it on the world, Canada subsequently came under lockdown diktats ordered by Prime Minister [[Justin Trudeau]] and his unelected public health officer, alleged "doctor"<ref>Multiple references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/who_is_dr_theresa_tam_trudeau_s_public_health_officer Who is Dr. Theresa Tam, Trudeau’s public health officer?] at Rebel News
*[https://canucklaw.ca/cv-13b-more-on-who-theresa-tam-really-is/ CV #13(B): More On Who Theresa Tam Really Is]
*[https://rightedition.com/2020/04/09/who-is-dr-theresa-tam/ Who is Dr. Theresa Tam?]</ref> and presumed CCP plant Theresa Tam<ref name="Theresa Tam">Two references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/dr_theresa_tam_canada_chief_public_health_officer_must_resign_or_be_fired Dr. Theresa Tam, Canada’s chief public health officer, must resign or be fired] at Rebel News
*[https://pjmedia.com/columns/david-solway-2/2020/04/28/is-canadas-response-to-covid-19-led-by-china-sympathizers-n385914 Is Canada’s Response to COVID-19 Led by China Sympathizers?] at PJ Media</ref>, ordering the closures of schools and public events, fining of gatherings by police and the shuttering of businesses considered "non-essential", while as with the United States, widespread shortages of health-related supplies, including face masks, personal protective equipment, testing reagents and capacity for vaccine manufacturing, also became an issue.

On April 7, 2020 the City of Toronto recalled more than 60,000 surgical masks made in China. The masks, valued at more than $200,000, were provided to staff at long-term care facilities. Toronto health authorities were investigating whether caregivers were exposed to COVID-19 while wearing the equipment. The masks represented around 50% of Toronto's inventory of surgical masks, according to Matthew Pegg, Toronto's fire chief and general manager of emergency management.

In May 2020, Justin Trudeau drew criticism for using Canadian tax dollars to import CCP flu "vaccines", manufactured using aborted fetal tissue, from China to test on Canadians.<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/trudeau_to_test_covid-19_vaccine_developed_chinese_army_on_canadians Trudeau wants to test COVID-19 vaccine developed by Chinese army on Canadians ASAP] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/trudeaus_covid_vaccine_made_by_china_from_hek293_cell_line Trudeau's COVID-19 vaccine: Made by China from aborted fetal tissue (and you're paying for it)] at Rebel News</ref> In a March 2021 interview with [[Rebel News]], Dr. Mark Trozzi expressed his doubts about the "vaccines", rhetorically asking why he would "...take a potentially dangerous experimental injection for a non-fatal illness".<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/doctor_doubts_validity_of_covid_vaccines_interview_with_dr_mark_trozzi_part_two Doctor doubts validity of COVID vaccines | Interview with Dr. Mark Trozzi (part 2)] at Rebel News</ref>

According to ''[[The Washington Post]]'', China took two Canadian citizens [[hostage]], Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor, to pressure Canada not to extradite to the United States Meng Wanzhou, the chief financial officer of [[Huawei]] and daughter of Huawei founder Ren Zhengfei.<ref>https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2018/12/17/china-is-holding-two-canadians-hostages-its-not-even-denying-it/</ref> After Justin Trudeau publicly thanked Taiwan for Covid relief assistance, the CCP demanded return of two [[panda]]s from the [[Calgary]] Zoo. A petition circulated demanding the release of Canadian hostages in exchange for the pandas. The diplomatic uproar exemplified the value left-wing Chinese Communists place on human life (i.e. none).<ref>https://youtu.be/epWzdhA-5Yk</ref>

In November 2020, physician Dr. Roger Hodkinson criticized the politicization of the CCP flu pandemic and the sensationalization of same by the media at a meeting in Edmonton, pointing out that face masks are "...utterly useless. There is no evidence base for their effectiveness whatsoever. Paper masks and fabric masks are simply virtue-signaling", and that the CCP flu "...is not [[Ebola]]. It's not [[SARS]]. It’s politics playing medicine and that’s a very dangerous game."<ref>[https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/canadian-doctor-blasts-corona-hysteria-greatest-hoax-ever-perpetuated-on-an-unsuspecting-public Canadian doctor blasts corona hysteria: ‘Greatest hoax ever perpetrated on an unsuspecting public’] at LifeSiteNews</ref> Hodkinson also recommended for people who feel sick to stay home, eat chicken noodle soup, and make sure those who are vulnerable take Vitamin D.

Independent journalists who have attempted to report the truth about the pandemic and about CCP flu "vaccines", comment about the legality of lockdowns and unconstitutional attacks on rights and freedoms and report about protests against lockdowns and other pandemic-related issues that attempt to hold the Trudeau regime and its provincial counterparts accountable have been targeted for illegal harassment and fines by the RCMP<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/rcmp_visit_reporter_at_home_for_publishing_story_critical_of_trudeau_government RCMP visit reporter AT HOME for publishing story critical of Trudeau government] at Rebel News</ref> and by regional police forces,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/independent_journalist_fined_880_while_covering_toronto_protest Independent journalist fined $880 while covering Toronto protest] at Rebel News</ref> which the Trudeau regime, the provinces and local jurisdictions are now using as their "COVID-19 enforcers" to try to intimidate journalists and censor and silence the truth in violation of the [[Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms]].<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/press_freedom_nope_heres_your_covid_19_ticket Press freedom? Nope, here's your COVID-19 ticket] at Rebel News</ref>

On March 24, 2021, the [[CBC]], Canada's state broadcaster and the propaganda wing of the [[Liberal Party of Canada]], aired an announcement by Theresa Tam<ref name="Theresa Tam"/> claiming that there would be a "third wave" of the CCP flu, driven by alleged "variants", hitting the provinces during the spring.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_rszz0yNCuA Provinces prepare for 3rd wave of COVID-19 driven by variants] at CBC News YouTube channel ('''Warning:''' Contains the usual liberal media nonsense and fake news)</ref> Predictably, the CBC's YouTube posting of that story was heavily ratioed and criticized in its comment section, with the video receiving nearly ten times as many dislikes as it did likes.

On March 31, 2021, at the recommendation of the National Advisory Committee on Immunization, Health Canada suspended use of the AstraZeneca CCP flu "vaccine" for people under age 55 over concerns about its link to the development of blood clots,<ref>[https://www.foxnews.com/health/canada-pauses-astrazeneca-covid-19-vaccine-for-under-55 Canada pauses AstraZeneca COVID-19 vaccine for under 55] at Fox News</ref> a concern later confirmed by the European Union as Germany, Italy, France, Spain and other countries likewise suspended use of the AstraZeneca "vaccine" following reports of 44 cases of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, a rare brain clotting condition, out of 9.2 million Europeans who received the "vaccine".<ref>[https://www.wnd.com/2021/04/european-union-covid-19-vaccine-clear-association-brain-blood-clots/ European Union: COVID-19 vaccine has 'clear association' with brain blood clots] at WorldNetDaily</ref>

On April 1, 2021, [[Fox News]] host [[Tucker Carlson]] took aim at Canadian "COVID-19 hotels" created and funded by Justin Trudeau, which Carlson compared with internment camps and which he pointed out illegally violate human rights by forcing Canadian travelers returning from overseas vacations to either be detained for quarantine at the facilities or risk heavy fines and imprisonment.<ref>[https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/tucker-carlson-canadas-covid-internment-camps-violate-the-most-basic-human-rights Tucker Carlson: Canada’s COVID internment camps violate ‘the most basic human rights’] at LifeSiteNews</ref> Carlson also reported on the substandard conditions of the detainment facilities, including food and water shortages, missing locks on doors and female detainees being sexually assaulted, and he also criticized state broadcaster the CBC for spreading [[disinformation]] about the facilities. In a similar earlier criticism of those facilities and the Trudeau regime's actions, Rebel News reporter Keean Bexte, who had similarly been illegally targeted and coerced after returning from an assignment in Florida, compared them to [[gulag]]s, pointed out that what the Trudeau regime is doing flagrantly violates sections of the Charter and announced that Rebel News would be suing the regime to force the abolition of the pandemic facilities program.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/no_covid_jails_donation Update: We're suing the Trudeau government over COVID jails] at Rebel News</ref> On April 26, the Supreme Court of Canada ruled that the "COVID-19 hotels" violated Charter protections (specifically, against Section 7, covering the right to life, liberty and security of person, and Section 9, covering the right to not be arbitrarily detained), though it did not issue an injunction against the program; a full hearing on the constitutionality of said facilities is scheduled for June 1-3, 2021.<ref>[https://www.jccf.ca/federal-court-rules-isolation-hotels-violate-charter-protection-against-arbitrary-detention-declines-to-issue-injunction/ Federal Court agrees isolation hotels violate Charter protection against arbitrary detention, declines to issue injunction]</ref>

On April 26, 2021, the ''Toronto Sun'' newspaper published the results of a study by Douglas W. Allen, an economics professor at Simon Fraser University in the Vancouver suburb of Burnaby, British Columbia, indicating that the CCP flu lockdowns are ineffective and that the long-term societal harms of the lockdowns, including job losses and mental health challenges, are 282 times greater than any presumed benefits.<ref>[https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/furey-new-canadian-study-breaks-down-ineffectiveness-and-harms-of-lockdowns FUREY: New Canadian study breaks down 'ineffectiveness' and harms of lockdowns] at the Toronto Sun</ref> On the basis of that report, independent (formerly [[Conservative Party of Canada|Conservative]]) Member of Parliament Derek Sloan pointed out that the lockdowns are destroying Canadian communities and that few politicians in Canada were willing to oppose the lockdown diktats due to cowardice and lack of courage;<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/lockdowns_are_destroying_our_communities_derek_sloan_with_ezra_levant Lockdowns are destroying our communities | Derek Sloan with Ezra Levant] at Rebel News</ref> Sloan also spoke out against "vaccine passports" and the mass injection of children with the experimental CCP flu "vaccines", calling them "...an absolute negligent crime against Canadians." <ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/it_is_an_absolute_negligent_crime_against_canadians_derek_sloan_on_experimental_covid_vaccines "It is an absolute negligent crime against Canadians": Derek Sloan on experimental COVID vaccines] at Rebel News</ref>

Prior to an anti-lockdown rally in Toronto on May 15, 2021, [[People's Party of Canada]] leader [[Maxime Bernier]] stated in an interview with Rebel News reporter Alexa Lavoie that all CCP flu lockdowns in Canada should be ended immediately, citing how the lockdowns have negatively affected many small businesses across the country; he also voiced opposition to "vaccine passports", saying that such documents would cause the creation of a "show me your papers" society (akin to [[Nazi Germany]] and the [[USSR]] and other Communist-ruled countries) and the creation of new societal classes based on vaccination status.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/we_need_to_have_an_ideological_revolution_maxime_bernier_on_lockdowns_vax_passports_bill_c10 People's Party leader Maxime Bernier on lockdowns, vax passports, Bill C-10] at Rebel News</ref>

As in the United States,<ref>[https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/10/09/the-governments-unfair-treatment-of-churches-during-covid-pandemic/ The Government’s Unfair Treatment of Churches During COVID Pandemic] at the Daily Signal</ref> worship services,<ref>Multiple references:
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoOpd3N5R9M Pastor James Coates returns to GraceLife, RCMP try to disrupt services] at Rebel News YouTube channel
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdpKoymxJAo Freedom of religion vs. B.C.'s Dr. Bonnie Henry: Time to open churches] at Rebel News
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pUgkSv5WV8 Religion vs. State Day 2: should churches in B.C. really be closed?] at Rebel News YouTube channel
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz2mOy-TjeY “Without hope, people have nothing”: Pastor criticizes Alberta COVID-19 response] at Rebel News YouTube channel</ref> other public gatherings<ref name="Edmonton Police">[https://www.rebelnews.com/edmonton_police_attack_peaceful_protesters_then_turn_against_journalists Edmonton police attack peaceful protesters, then turn against journalists] at Rebel News</ref> and many businesses in Canada<ref>Multiple references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/they_dont_care_if_my_business_shuts_down_ontario_small_biz_owner_speaks_out_against_town_council_covid_rules “They don't care if my business shuts down”: Ontario small biz owner speaks out against town council COVID rules] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/manitoba_businesses_individuals_are_being_charged_its_time_to_fight_the_fines FIGHT BACK: Manitoba businesses, individuals are being charged & it's time Fight The Fines] at Rebel News
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5-SS5lr21w “Alienated” from Alberta Health: New Dimension Tattoos followed mask bylaw, ticketed anyway] at Rebel News YouTube channel
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIZl5y3rwRE Spa THREATENED with $100,000 a day in fines — Boho owner says microblading safer than WalMart] at Rebel News YouTube channel
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkA1uCFgfqk “Common sense has gone out the window”: Noble Fox still fighting AHS] at Rebel News YouTube channel</ref> have been negatively affected by the illegal and unconstitutional diktats, police harassment/persecution and unjust punishments imposed by Justin Trudeau, his public health officer Theresa Tam and their liberal provincial and municipal counterparts (including British Columbia premier [[John Horgan]],<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/bc_slapped_with_new_lockdown_restrictions_for_only_three_weeks B.C. slapped with new lockdown restrictions — for only “three weeks”] at Rebel News</ref> Ontario premier [[Doug Ford]],<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOwBv17Qbas&t=6s WATCH: Doug Ford THIRD Lockdown Announcement!] at Rebel News YouTube channel</ref> Calgary mayor [[Naheed Nenshi]]<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/mayor_nenshi_is_the_one_who_asked_for_tougher_covid_enforcement_keean_bexte_joins_ezra_levant Mayor Nenshi is the one who asked for tougher COVID enforcement | Keean Bexte joins Ezra Levant] at Rebel News</ref> and Toronto mayor [[John Tory]]<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w0MJS2it-g Toronto's “top doctor” lays out the plan for the New World Order] at Rebel News YouTube channel</ref>) during the pandemic while hypocritically allowing leftists to hold "protest" events.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/bc_judge_rules_to_keep_churches_closed_but_peaceful_protests_wide_open B.C. judge rules to keep churches closed but peaceful protests wide open] at Rebel News</ref> [[Rebel News]] has also questioned why Theresa Tam and Canada's unelected provincial public health officers have turned into tyrants drunk on their own power, shutting down churches, fitness gyms, restaurants and various small businesses based solely on flaunting the power bestowed upon them by Justin Trudeau and the provincial premiers.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/tyrants_public_health_officials_drunk_with_power TYRANTS: Our public health officials have become drunk with power] at Rebel News</ref>

==Responses==
===Alberta===
*In [[Edmonton]], former Alberta NDP premier [[Rachel Notley]] exhibited signs of the CCP flu while holding a press conference at the Alberta Legislature, yet refused to quarantine herself as she attended legislature sessions while hypocritically demanding business closures across the province and unconstitutional restrictions on personal freedoms despite no longer being in power; when asked by Rebel News about CCP flu testing within the Alberta NDP's ranks, Notley and MLA Kathleen Ganley refused to answer and ran off.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/alberta_ndp_leader_has_coughing_fit_during_press_conference_wont_address_covid_questions Alberta NDP leader has coughing fit during press conference, won't address COVID questions] at Rebel News</ref>
*In [[Calgary]], a bar and restaurant called Outlaws Taphouse and Bar was driven out of business by heavy-handed pandemic-related government bureaucracy by Alberta Health Services, the City of Calgary, the provincial Occupational Health and Safety department and the Alberta Gaming, Liquor and Cannabis Commission, which insisted on the enforcement of face mask diktats, refused to allow for mask exemptions, imposed unreasonable orders on them and stripped the bar of their food handling permit, their business license and their liquor license, followed by the [[Calgary Police Service]] being sent to serve a closure notice on the bar.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/outlaws_taphouse_is_out_of_business_thanks_to_alberta_government UPDATE: Outlaws Taphouse is OUT OF BUSINESS thanks to Alberta government] at Rebel News</ref> Attorney Chad Williamson, who represented the bar in its legal battle against the local and provincial bureaucracies over the pandemic diktats, announced that he will be looking at ways to hold the involved agencies accountable for their imposition of pandemic-related anti-business tyranny.
*In Calgary, a tattoo shop called Dimensions Tattoos was unjustly hit with a $1,000 "lockdown ticket" by Alberta Health Services, despite the shop following a local mask bylaw, for its refusal to allow health inspectors invade the stop in search of alleged "COVID-19 violations".<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/alienated_from_alberta_health_new_dimension_tattoos_followed_mask_bylaw_ticketed_anyway “Alienated” from Alberta Health: New Dimension Tattoos followed mask bylaw, ticketed anyway] at Rebel News</ref> Shop owners Sarah Ken and Peel Smith, both of whom are mask-exempt for medical reasons and have also allowed mask-exempted clients to book tattoo appointments, were ratted out to local agencies by some non-customers who objected to Ken, Smith and some of their customers not wearing masks due to exemption, which led to the shop's current legal and bureaucratic hassles. Rebel News, which covered the story, has offered legal help to Dimensions Tattoos to help them fight the lockdown ticket.
*In Calgary, Artur Pawlowski, the pastor of the Cave of Adullam Church, fought back against the discriminatory diktats against church services by ordering Calgary police officers and an AHS inspector who disrupted a Holy Week worship service in the church by coming in without a warrant in search of alleged "COVID-19 violations" to leave the church, calling the intruding officers Nazis and Gestapo.<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/get-nazis-calgary-pastor-shouts-police-interrupting-church-service-holy-week-video/ “Get Out, Nazis!” Calgary Pastor Shouts Down Police Interrupting Church Service During Holy Week] at the Gateway Pundit
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/police_interrupt_calgary_church_service Calgary police told off by pastor after disrupting church service] at Rebel News</ref> Pawlowski, who had seen similar such tactics used by the then-ruling Communist Polish United Workers' Party while living in his native Poland, was correct in his action, as Section 176 of the Criminal Code of Canada makes it a crime to disrupt a worship service,<ref>[https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-176.html Criminal Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46) - Obstructing or violence to or arrest of officiating clergyman; Disturbing religious worship or certain meetings]</ref> thereby making the officers' warrantless intrusion, which was done with the intention of intimidation of religious worshipers, illegal. Pastor Pawlowski later pointed out that religious clergy and business owners need to find the courage to stand up to the totalitarian actions of politicians and unelected public officials who impose illegal decrees and engage in actions intended to infringe on human rights, discriminate and intimidate, stating that such actions are unacceptable.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_artur_clergy_business_owners_must_find_courage_to_kick_those_nazis_out Pastor Artur: Clergy, business owners must find courage to “Kick those Nazis out”] at Rebel News</ref>
:*When the Calgary Police Service later sent a SWAT team to accompany the same health bureaucrat to make another attempt to illegally disrupt a worship service in a show of intimidation, Pawlowski stood his ground and ran the officers and the bureaucrat off after refusing to let them into his church and again calling them out for Nazi-like behavior.<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/watch-canadian-police-bring-swat-team-church-polish-pastor-went-viral-shaming-nazi-police-easter/ WATCH: Canadian Police Bring SWAT Team to Church Where Polish Pastor Went Viral for Shaming ‘Nazi’ Police on Easter] at the Gateway Pundit
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_artur_pawlowski_kicks_alberta_health_officials_out_of_his_church_once_again Pastor Artur Pawlowski kicks Alberta health officials out of his church once again] at Rebel News</ref>
:*Rebel News subsequently reported that the CPS had obtained a secret warrant from sympathetic liberal judge M. David Gates<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/lions_do_not_bow_to_hyenas_artur_pawlowski_continues_to_hold_services_despite_secret_warrant “Lions do not bow to hyenas”: Artur Pawlowski continues to hold services despite secret warrant] at Rebel News</ref> to use any force necessary - including the illegal use of force to haul Pawlowski before a [[kangaroo court]] and unjustly jail him on a false "contempt" charge for refusing to allow the CPS and the AHS bureaucrats to violate the Criminal Code by their illegal disruptions of his church services.<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/calgary_police_obtain_secret_warrant_to_use_any_force_necessary_to_disrupt_church_service Calgary police obtain SECRET warrant to use “any force necessary” to disrupt church service] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/save_artur_petition PETITION: Save Pastor Artur Pawlowski] at Rebel News</ref> Pawlowski was able to avoid being illegally arrested by the CPS during a worship service when hundreds of people showed up in support of him for the service, though he has since been served with a "health order" from the City of Calgary demanding that standards be met to prevent the city taking action (i.e. illegal seizure) against his church building, similar to what happened to GraceLife Church in Edmonton (noted below).<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_pawlowski_gets_health_order_similar_to_gracelife_church_before_it_was_shut UPDATE: Pastor Pawlowski gets health order similar to GraceLife Church before it was shut] at Rebel News</ref> Pawlowski responded to the unjustified threats against him and his church by planning to hold worship services outdoors.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/facing_threats_from_authorities_pastor_artur_takes_church_back_to_the_street Facing threats from authorities, Pastor Artur takes church back to the street] at Rebel News</ref>
:*Soon after the conclusion of a recent weekend worship service at Pawlowski's church (in which congregants ejected the CPS from the church after CPS officers tried to illegally disrupt that service<ref>[https://twitter.com/ATSoos/status/1391076828857524225 Adam Soos: "Artur Pawlowski's supporters have ejected Calgary Police from the church. We expect they will return in force"] at Twitter</ref>), a heavily-armed CPS SWAT team stormed in Gestapo style and illegally arrested Pawlowski on a false charge of "incitement" for opening the church in defiance of unconstitutional lockdown diktats,<ref>Multiple references:
*[https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/calgary-pastor-artur-pawlowski-swarmed-police-arrested-holding-illegal-church-service-video/ Calgary Pastor Artur Pawlowski Swarmed by Police and Arrested After Holding “Illegal” Church Service] at the Gateway Pundit
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/breaking_calgary_pastor_artur_pawlowski_arrested_moments_after_church_today BREAKING: Calgary Pastor Artur Pawlowski ARRESTED moments after church today] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/police_state_watch_the_moment_a_swat_team_arrests_canadian_pastor_artur_pawlowski POLICE STATE: Watch the moment a SWAT team arrests a Canadian pastor] at Rebel News</ref> after which he was taken to be held in a local jail where he was treated as a political prisoner for exercising his faith, was illegally abused by corrupt CPS officers and was refused contact with his attorneys, while the liberal media, in acts of journalistic unprofessionalism, gleefully cheered the pastor's arrest;<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/exclusive_jailhouse_interview_with_pastor_artur_pawlowski EXCLUSIVE: Jailhouse interview with Pastor Artur Pawlowski] at Rebel News</ref> after that egregious treatment was exposed on the Rebel News site following an interview with him, Pawlowski was allowed a brief phone call with his attorneys (one of which, Sarah Miller, later reported in an interview that Pawlowski's legal team were working to get him released and noted the poor treatment he received while in jail<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_artur_pawlowskis_lawyer_next_steps_on_fair_hearing_after_arrest_for_contempt_order Pastor Artur Pawlowski's Lawyer: Next steps on “fair hearing” after arrest for contempt order] at Rebel News</ref>). Soon after the interview, Pawlowski was released on bail, but still faces a hearing in court on his refusal to bow to the illegal persecution being perpetrated against him for choosing God over the State;<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/canadian_court_grants_bail_to_jailed_christian_pastor_artur_pawlowski_released_within_hours BREAKING: Canadian court grants bail to jailed Christian pastor Art Pawlowski — he’ll be released within hours!] at Rebel News</ref> controversially, the director of the Calgary Remand Centre, where Pawlowski was being held (along with his brother Dawid, who was arrested at the same time), decided, for purely political reasons and in defiance of the presiding judge's release order, to illegally refuse to release them for several hours before finally deciding to do so once the director's actions began drawing public scrutiny.<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_artur_pawlowski_release_delayed_by_rogue_guards Pastor Artur Pawlowski's release DELAYED officials at Remand Centre] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_artur_is_free_but_why_did_guards_delay Pastor Artur Pawlowski is FREE — but why did the guards refuse for hours to let him out?] at Rebel News</ref> Even after being released, the Pawlowskis were followed home by CPS vehicles and a helicopter in an illegal act of harassment and intimidation. Pastor Pawlowski also reported that at his bail hearing, he showed up while kept in leg irons<ref>[https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1391924516574699520 Ezra Levant: "4. Pastor Artur tells me that at his bail hearing this morning, he was literally in leg irons. Like he was a murderer who might run off or something. What an absolute, eternal disgrace to the Government of Alberta"] at Twitter</ref> and was told that the AHS had sought to keep him in solitary confinement - which is considered a form of torture - for 24 days under the specious claim of "COVID-19 protection measures";<ref>[https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1391924718262001669 Ezra Levant: "5. Pastor Artur told me they had initially sought to put him in solitary confinement for 24 days -- which they claimed was a Covid protection measure. Solitary confinement is widely regarded as a form of torture"] at Twitter</ref> because of the illegal actions taken by the remand centre employees (including denying him the right to speak to his attorneys), the hearing for Pawlowski has been delayed.<ref>[https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1391930834580508674 Ezra Levant: "9. Pastor Artur called me back after his phone call with his lawyers. The only other news I have is that the contempt of court hearing that was scheduled for tomorrow has been postponed. (Obviously: the police prohibited him from consulting his lawyers)"] at Twitter</ref>
:*It was also reported that some anonymous pro-lockdown cranks had also caused trouble for Pawlowski's church with several malicious acts of vandalism as well as by spreading nails and dog feces around the church parking lot, which the CPS chose to ignore when those incidents - which could be defined as [[hate crime]]s due to their nature - came to their attention.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/pre_arrest_pastor_artur_pawlowski_talks_attacks_against_church_police_enforcement Pre-arrest: Pastor Artur Pawlowski talks attacks against church, police enforcement] at Rebel News</ref> Pawlowski's home was also recently targeted by pro-lockdown arsonists who attempted to burn the house down.<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/05/video-arsonists-attempt-burn-brave-pastor-artur-pawlowskis-home-canada/ VIDEO: Arsonists Attempt to Burn Down Brave Pastor Artur Pawlowski’s Home in Canada] at the Gateway Pundit
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/arsonists_attack_pastor_arturs_home_in_calgary SHAMEFUL: Arsonists attack Pastor Artur's home in Calgary] at Rebel News</ref>
:*To make sure his legal battle would not be compromised, Pawlowski has chosen since then to maintain a low profile as he awaits his upcoming court hearing at home in prayer with his family, with substitute pastor Peter Reicher taking over in leading worship services with the Cave of Adullam's congregation.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/neighbourhood_meltdown_caught_on_camera_next_door_pastor_artur_pawlowski_street_church Expletive-laden MELTDOWN caught on camera next door to Pastor Art's church] at Rebel News</ref> While there were no police present to harass the congregants at a recent outdoor worship service, a handful of pro-lockdown leftists living next door to the church tried to loudly, angrily and profanely harass some of the worshipers, with one of the loudmouthed leftists in particular acting in an immature and childish manner while mocking those who criticized her for her behavior.
:*Reicher was later served with an injunction, the same one under which Pawlowski and fellow pastor Tim Stephens (see below) were illegally arrested, implying that he would also be illegally threatened with arrest if he proceeded with a Saturday worship service.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/no_arrest_for_pastor_arturs_replacement_following_last_weekends_police_warning No arrest for Pastor Artur's replacement following last weekend's police warning] at Rebel News</ref> At the service itself, several CPS officers showed up with an intent to do damage control thanks to the recent hits the CPS has taken to its reputation by acting under orders from Alberta health minister Tyler Shandro to illegally persecute religious worshipers under the ruse of "public health" enforcement during the CCP flu pandemic; the officers claimed that they had no intention of disrupting the service, but their mere presence was distracting enough to the congregation to cause disruption of the service anyhow as several of the congregants went to confront them, though the confrontation ended without incident.
:*Not long after his release from jail, Pawlowski and his daughter were out grocery shopping when they were confronted by a man presumed to be mentally ill, who verbally berated Pawlowski in the store and then viciously attacked the pastor outside the store; although Pawlowski is trained in martial arts and could have easily stopped his attacker, he chose not to do so but instead photographed the man and his vehicle before the man fled, after which Pawlowski reported him to the CPS.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_artur_allegedly_assaulted_while_buying_groceries_with_his_daughter Pastor Artur allegedly ASSAULTED while buying groceries with his daughter]</ref> Rebel News speculated in its report on the incident that the man may have been influenced in his attack on Pawlowski by incitement of malice and anger against Pawlowski by corrupt pro-lockdown Alberta politicians and the liberal media.
:*Reicher was recently served by the CPS with a summons to appear in provincial court under the same anti-free speech injunction imposed by liberal judge John Rooke<ref>[https://www.jccf.ca/government-restraining-order-against-peaceful-protest-is-a-naked-attack-on-albertans-freedoms/ Government restraining order against peaceful protest is a naked attack on Albertans’ freedoms]</ref> against Chris Scott (see below) and all other Albertans to illegally prevent them from protesting against Jason Kenney's lockdown diktats.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_peter_reicher_served_by_police_canada_has_become_communist BREAKING: Pastor Peter Reicher served by police: "Canada has become communist"] at Rebel News</ref> Axa Reichel, Pastor Reichel's wife, correctly called the CPS' actions (including aiding in illegal persecution of Christians by the Jason Kenney regime) criminal and called for the officers serving the summons to repent, while Reichel, after finishing signing documents, quipped that Canada had become a Communist country because of the CCP flu pandemic.
:*Anti-Christian pro-lockdown troublemakers recently committed a vile act of vandalism against the Cave of Adullam Church when they left a large amount of horse manure spread throughout the church's parking lot (which has been used as an outdoor worship space), along with deposits of syringe needles and garbage.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/horse_crap_pastor_arturs_church_vandalized_after_second_pastor_served HORSE CRAP: Pastor Artur's church vandalized after second pastor served] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Edmonton, corrupt members of the city's police service, acting under the orders of Rachel Notley (even though she is no longer the Alberta premier), displayed [[Gestapo]]-like tactics as they illegally attacked and assaulted peaceful anti-CCP flu lockdown protesters and [[Rebel News]] reporter Keean Bexte during that protest, then unjustly arrested anti-lockdown protester David Pawlowski with no verifiable cause.<ref name="Edmonton Police"/>
*In Edmonton, government bureaucrats, with assistance from the RCMP, staged an illegal armed raid and occupation of the GraceLife Church, then fenced off the church building, as part of discriminatory persecution of religious worshippers battling the province's unconstitutional CCP flu lockdown orders against places of worship.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/gracelife_church_raided_by_police_fencing_went_up_at_dawn BREAKING: GraceLife Church RAIDED by police — fencing went up at dawn] at Rebel News</ref> The church's pastor, James Coates, has been unjustly targeted by bureaucrats, starting by hitting him with a $1,200 fine and illegally holding him in jail for 35 days<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/ezra_levant_show_april_08_2021 Government troops occupy a church in Alberta. Where’s the outcry — even from other churches?] at Rebel News</ref> for what Edmonton police claimed was a "violation" of CCP flu diktats by holding a church service,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/police_charge_pastor_james_coates_for_violating_public_health_orders_at_gracelife_church_in_edmonton Police charge Pastor James Coates for violating public health orders at GraceLife Church in Edmonton] at Rebel News</ref> followed by police and Alberta Health Services inspectors spying on weekly services at the church,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/update_pastor_james_coates_behind_bars_after_church_defies_lockdown UPDATE: Pastor James Coates behind bars after church defies lockdown] at Rebel News</ref> then by the RCMP, in Gestapo-style fashion, adding more fencing and road blockades to restrict access to the church building and property,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/gracelife_rcmp_add_more_blockades_church_members_set_up_tents_to_stay_overnight GraceLife: RCMP add more blockades, church members set up tents to stay overnight] at Rebel News</ref> all in attempts to illegally attack religious freedom and to make an example of Pastor Coates and GraceLife Church for their undertaking of their constitutional right to worship. In response to the targeting and persecution of GraceLife Church and Pastor Coates as well as other churches in the province, religious leaders spoke out against the government's actions and called for the reopening of all churches in Alberta to worship without restrictions on capacity or other restrictions.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/group_of_pastors_call_on_others_to_open_alberta_churches Group of pastors call on others to “Open Alberta Churches”] at Rebel News</ref>
:*The GraceLife congregation responded by tearing down the fencing surrounding the church to regain access to it, resulting in 200 RCMP officers, heavily armed and dressed in riot gear, being deployed to use Gestapo tactics to illegally harass and persecute the congregation.<ref>[https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/shock-troops-coming-200-heavily-armed-canadian-police-deployed-edmonton-church-harass-christians-video/ “The Shock Troops Are Coming!” – 200 Heavily-Armed Canadian Police Deployed to Edmonton Church to Harass Christians] at the Gateway Pundit</ref>
:*During a recent protest against government overreach during the pandemic on the church property by members of the GraceLife congregation, outside infiltrators, seeking to start trouble for GraceLife with the police, tried to pull the fence down, but the legitimate protesters put the fence back up to avoid trouble from the police; during the protests against CCP flu lockdowns and religious persecution, the GraceLife congregation has held services off-site at secret locations to avoid bureaucratic and RCMP scrutiny.<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/youre_here_for_freedom_not_to_rip_down_a_fence_protesters_gather_at_gracelife_church “You're here for freedom, not to rip down a fence”: Protesters gather at GraceLife Church] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/gracelife_congregation_meets_in_secret_for_third_week_in_a_row_after_seizure_of_church_property GraceLife congregation meets in secret for third week in a row after seizure of church property] at Rebel News</ref>
:*Dr. Roger Hodkinson, who previously spoke out about the politicization of the pandemic, criticized AHS and the RCMP for their heavy-handed actions against GraceLife, pointing out that there is no balance being struck between public health, civil liberties and the economy.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/dr_roger_hodgkinson_no_balance_between_public_health_civil_liberties_economy Dr. Roger Hodgkinson: no balance between public health, civil liberties, economy] at Rebel News</ref>
:*Members of the GraceLife congregation, along with other protesters, later gathered outside the Alberta Legislature to protest the heavy-handed unconstitutional crackdowns and illegal persecution of religious worshipers at the behest of Alberta "conservative" premier [[Jason Kenney]],<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/protesters_rally_in_opposition_of_restrictions_on_religious_services Protesters rally in opposition of restrictions on religious services] at Rebel News</ref> while Coates is currently being placed on "trial" in a kangaroo court for standing up against the lockdown edicts by refusing to limit the number of attendees at his church during worship services.<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_james_coates_trial_live_updates_may_03_2021 DAY ONE: Pastor Coates on trial for violating public health orders] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_james_coates_trial_live_updates_may_04_2021 DAY TWO: Pastor Coates on trial for violating public health orders] at Rebel News</ref>
:*GraceLife Church announced that it would be taking AHS to court to force the agency to return GraceLife's church building, which AHS still illegally possesses following its seizure, to the congregation.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/gracelife_court_application_alberta_health_services_return_church_building_grounds GraceLife takes Alberta Health to court to force return of barricaded church] at Rebel News</ref>
*In the hamlet of Mirror, the Whistle Stop Café, a local restaurant which defied the lockdown diktats of Jason Kenney by refusing to close,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/public_support_political_silence_whistle_stop_owner_chris_scott_on_his_lockdown_victory Public Support, Political Silence: Whistle Stop owner Chris Scott on his Lockdown Victory] at Rebel News</ref> held an anti-lockdown event attended by hundreds of customers, most of which ate outside but some of which chose to eat inside the restaurant.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/rebellious_restaurateurs_link_up_for_barbecue_protest_in_alberta Rebellious restaurateurs link up for barbecue protest in Alberta] at Rebel News</ref> Among those taking part in the event was guest chef and Toronto restaurant owner Adam Skelly, whose own restaurant, Adamson Barbecue, was heavy-handedly targeted by Ontario government bureaucrats for defying lockdown diktats there and who was himself illegally harrassed by authorities for taking a stand.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/tags/adamson_bbq Adamson BBQ] at Rebel News</ref> Alberta Health Services bureaucrats, accompanied by the RCMP, showed up to impose a closure order on the restaurant and removed the indoor diners, but did not attempt to stop the outdoor event itself due to the large number of people present. Other Alberta restaurants, acting in solidarity with the Whistle Stop and its owner Chris Scott, also reopened their own facilities for indoor dining in defiance of the lockdowns, forcing the Alberta government to initially back down and allow indoor dining at restaurants to resume back in February,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/victory_for_now_whistle_stop_cafe_legally_allowed_to_open VICTORY (for now!): Whistle Stop Cafe LEGALLY allowed to open] at Rebel News</ref> but Kenney later arbitrarily reversed course and forced the closure of indoor dining at restaurants again, which led Scott to resume his battle with the provincial health bureaucrats.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/albertas_original_restaurant_rebel_still_fighting_for_freedom_at_the_whistle_stop_cafe Alberta's original restaurant rebel still fighting for freedom at the Whistle Stop Cafe] at Rebel News</ref>
:*The Whistle Stop was recently raided and illegally seized by AHS bureaucrats and the RCMP in response to Scott's stand against the bureaucrats;<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/police_alberta_health_services_raid_whistlestop_diner_in_early_morning_bust BREAKING: Police, Alberta Health Services raid Whistle Stop Cafe in early morning bust] at Rebel News</ref> in response to the illegal actions of AHS and the RCMP (which also closed down the Whistle Stop's connected gas station, convenience store and campsite, the only source for gas and general supplies in the hamlet), Scott set up what he calls the "Whistle Stop Freedom Park", where he continues to cook and serve the restaurant's customers, and has announced plans for a huge protest against the Kenney regime's heavy-handed actions.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/whistle_stop_cafe_sets_up_freedom_park_plans_for_biggest_protest_albertas_ever_seen Whistle Stop Cafe sets up “freedom park,” plans for “biggest protest Alberta's ever seen”] at Rebel News</ref> The Kenney regime and AHS responded to the announced protest by obtaining a secret injunction to block the constitutionally-protected protest, illegally threatening to jail Scott and anyone else who takes part in the protest.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/emergency_injunction_whistle_stop_caf_owner_could_face_jail_if_he_hosts_weekend_protest EMERGENCY INJUNCTION: Whistle Stop Café owner could face jail if he hosts weekend protest] at Rebel News</ref> The RCMP subsequently followed through on Kenney's threat and arrested Scott when he held the protest, which drew over 1,500 people despite adverse weather conditions.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/breaking_whistle_stop_cafe_owner_arrested BREAKING: Whistle Stop Cafe owner ARRESTED] at Rebel News</ref>
:*At a later court hearing in Calgary, Scott was illegally denied legal representation when his lawyer Chad Williamson was barred from the hearing; Williamson later stated in a Rebel News interview that the actions of the Kenney regime in trampling the rights of Albertans were illegal.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/this_case_represents_a_fundamental_breach_of_the_principles_of_justice “A fundamental breach of the principles of justice”: Whistle Stop Cafe owner STILL in jail] at Rebel News</ref> It was later announced that Scott was to be released from custody pending a court hearing.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/whistle_stop_cafe_owner_appears_set_for_release_from_jail BREAKING: Whistle Stop Cafe owner appears set for RELEASE from jail] at Rebel News</ref> When a judge in Calgary refused to overturn the unconstitutional anti-free speech secret injunction by AHS, Scott's attorneys responded by announcing plans to summon Alberta's public health officer Deena Hinshaw and the AHS inspector who made constant visits to the Whistle Stop for examination at the hearing, which the judge agreed to.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/calgary_judge_overturns_anti_free_speech_restraining_order ] at Rebel News</ref>
:*Scott and Williamson are now taking AHS to the Alberta Court of Appeal over AHS' illegal actions in intentionally denying Scott access to an attorney by failing to inform Williamson about the proceedings against Scott, as well as neglecting to inform the court that Scott had legal representation at all.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/update_the_whistle_stop_cafe_is_heading_to_the_alberta_court_of_appeal Update: The Whistle Stop Cafe is heading to the Alberta Court of Appeal] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Edmonton, over 2,000 protesters (including representatives from various business, faith, medical, civil liberties and amateur sports groups) showed up at the Alberta Legislature to protest against, and call for the end of, the CCP flu lockdowns; many of the participants stated that they were sick and tired of being separated from their families, constant fearmongering by politicians and their liberal media propagandists, the damage being done to small businesses by the lockdowns, the effects of lockdown isolation on children and being name-called by elitist politicians for standing up for their rights and principles.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/end_the_lockdown_say_thousands_gathered_at_alberta_legislature_protest “End the lockdown!” say thousands gathered at Alberta legislature protest] at Rebel News</ref> Jason Kenney responded (and in doing so, proved the protesters' collective points) by falsely claiming that the protesters were "conspiracy theorists" and "unhinged".
*Justin Jensen, a registered massage therapist and competitive bodybuilder, spoke out against the CCP flu lockdowns in Alberta, joining those who have pointed out that the lockdowns (which have affected fitness gyms, among other businesses) are ineffective and that lack of activity and the sedentary lifestyles developing due to the lockdowns, which lead to health deterioration, only make things worse.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/canadians_need_fitness_facilities_professional_bodybuilder_speaks_out Canadians need fitness facilities: Professional bodybuilder speaks out] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Calgary, Dustin Sutley, the owner of local fitness gym Sweat Science Boxing and a vocal opponent of the CCP flu lockdown measures being taken by Alberta Health Services, took action against the related draconian targeting of fitness gyms in the city by organizing a campaign with other gyms to remain open in defiance of the lockdown, only for most of the other gyms to back down when Naheed Nenshi, in an attempt to make an example of Sutley for leading the anti-lockdown effort, threatened to pull their business licenses.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/open_these_doors_people_are_dying_gym_owner_speaks_on_importance_of_fitness "Open these doors, people are dying": Gym owner speaks on importance of fitness] at Rebel News</ref> Sutley has refused to close his gym or to back down from either Nenshi or AHS on principle, stating the importance of exercise for physical and emotional well-being and that the negative health impacts of gym closures are far worse than the insignificant alleged risks of the CCP flu.
*Jason Kenney announced the imposition of more draconian lockdown measures, including a provincewide curfew to take effect at 8:00 p.m. each evening, as part of his latest lockdown edict, which (as have similar such diktats in other Canadian provinces and in the United States) has come under criticism for being based on politics, power and control, not on science, as well as for allowing unelected public health officials to dictate what people can and cannot do under the lockdowns and doing so strictly for the celebrity notoriety and the attention.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/the_public_health_deep_state_is_running_the_show The public health deep state is running the show] at Rebel News</ref>
*An anti-lockdown rodeo was held at a farm south of the town of Bowden (near Red Deer), drawing rodeo cowboys from across Canada and from as far away as Australia and attended by up to 3,000 on each day of the event.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/bowden_alberta_hosts_its_first_freedom_rodeo Farm south of Bowden, Alberta hosts its first freedom rodeo] at Rebel News</ref> It was originally planned to hold the rodeo at the Bowden Rodeo Grounds, but after interference by Alberta Health Services, it was relocated to the farm owned by local farmer Ty Northcott. Pro-lockdown [[fake news|"news"]] reporters from Calgary's [[CTV]] station CFCN-DT complained about the rodeo, as one of them, Kathy Le, hysterically fretted about there being no social distancing or face masks,<ref>[https://twitter.com/MikeHansen613/status/1388995450968096775 Mike Hansen: "Someone just like you alerted authorities that the Frank family was hiding in someone's attic"] at Twitter</ref> while two other reporters bragged on Twitter about demonstrating willingness to rat out the rodeo attendees to the police, which drew criticism against the reporters.<ref>[https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1388991821905342466 Ezra Levant: "When CTV reporters show up, you really don’t know if they’re asking questions for the news, or to pass their intel on to the police. Do not trust them"] at Twitter</ref>
*Jason Kenney came under heavy criticism for enacting even harsher CCP flu lockdown edicts on the province while hypocritically exempting big businesses like Walmart and the [[NHL]], despite evidence revealing that the actual number of deaths attributed to the CCP flu in Alberta are currently down 80%.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/covid_deaths_are_down_80_per_cent_in_alberta_so_why_lock_down_harder_now COVID deaths are down 80% in Alberta, so why lock down harder now?] at Rebel News</ref> Rebel News pointed out that Kenney's latest lockdown diktats are not about health, but all about power and control (similar to what Justin Trudeau and Kenney's other provincial counterparts, including John Horgan in British Columbia, Brian Pallister in Manitoba, Doug Ford in Ontario and François Legault in Quebec are doing).<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/ezra_levant_show_may_05_2021 Jason Kenney throws Alberta into a brutal lockdown. But why are Walmart and the NHL exempt?] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Calgary, another house of worship came under attack by the Calgary Police Service at the behest of Alberta Health Services when Fairview Baptist Church began being surveilled by the CPS, as well as CPS-escorted AHS bureaucrats twice<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/calgary_police_public_health_again_enter_fairview_baptist_church_while_services_ongoing Calgary police, public health again enter Fairview Baptist Church while services ongoing] at Rebel News</ref> trying to illegally disrupt worship services and the church's pastor, Tim Stephens, being illegally ticketed multiple times for defying the unconstitutional lockdown edicts of Jason Kenney by holding indoor worship services at full capacity.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/police_outside_of_calgarys_fairview_baptist_church Police outside of Calgary's Fairview Baptist Church] at Rebel News</ref>
:*Stephens was later illegally<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/lawyer_says_pastor_tim_stephens_unlawfully_arrested_under_amended_ahs_order UPDATE: Lawyer says Pastor Tim Stephens unlawfully arrested under amended AHS order] at Rebel News</ref> arrested by the CPS at the behest of AHS following a worship service without justifiable charge; the CPS refused to tell Rebel News why they were arresting him.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/calgary_police_arrest_fairview_baptist_church_pastor_tim_stephens BREAKING: Calgary police arrest Fairview Baptist Church pastor Tim Stephens] at Rebel News</ref> Ezra Levant criticized the CPS for the illegal arrest, accusing them of cowardice in going after a Christian minister while giving free passes to pro-"[[Palestine]]" protesters stirring up trouble in Calgary.<ref>[https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1394140012241985537 Ezra Levant: "You threw a Christian pastor in jail today for opening his church without masks & social distancing. You were pretty brave then, with your armed police. I'm guessing you'll be showing your cowardly side tonight, am I right?"] at Twitter</ref> Stephens was later released from jail at a bail hearing,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/breaking_pastor_tim_stephens_is_set_to_be_released_after_a_second_emergency_bail_hearing_in_calgary BREAKING: Pastor Tim Stephens set to be released after second emergency bail hearing in Calgary] at Rebel News</ref> with attorney and Justice Centre for Constitutional Freedoms president John Carpay making note of the illegality of the actions of the CPS and AHS against Stephens. The case against Stephens by AHS, which had made a dubious claim of "contempt of court", was eventually dropped because it was discovered that AHS had never served Stephens with the court order it claimed he had "violated".<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/case_dropped_against_pastor_tim_stephens_of_fairview_baptist_church Case dropped against Pastor Tim Stephens of Fairview Baptist Church] at Rebel News</ref>
:*Even after Stephens' victory, however, the CPS vindictively attempted to serve him with the same court order the following evening, under the flimsy claim that they had served the order to someone else named Tim Stephens; the following morning at a Sunday morning worship service at Fairview Baptist Church, an AHS representative accompanied by two CPS officers attempted to barge into the church and illegally disrupt the service but were stopped by two congregants who cited Section 176(2) of the Criminal Code, after which the intruders returned to their vehicles and left, making no further attempts to disrupt the service.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/short-lived_celebration_as_calgary_police_pay_another_visit_to_fairview_baptist_church Celebrations short-lived as Calgary police pay ANOTHER visit to Fairview Baptist Church] at Rebel News</ref>
:*Following an underground worship service (necessitated by AHS' recent illegal seizure of the Fairview Baptist Church building two weeks prior) that was being spied on by the CPS at the behest of AHS, Stephens was illegally arrested for a second time by the CPS at his home in front of his family<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/breaking_pastor_tim_stephens_arrested_on_new_charges BREAKING: Pastor Tim Stephens arrested on new charges] at Rebel News</ref> on what were later revealed to be specious charges of "violating public health orders" regarding his church services, for which Stephens is currently being unjustly held in the Calgary Remand Centre (and where he continues to be held after refusing bail conditions that demanded he hold "socially distant" services in compliance with the AHS diktats against places of religious worship).<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/pastor_tim_stephens_remain_prison_refusing_bail_conditions_new_charges Pastor Tim Stephens will remain in prison after refusing bail conditions for new charges] at Rebel News</ref> In response, Rebel News reporter Sheila Gunn Reed expressed explicit disgust toward the Jason Kenney regime's heavy-handed and hypocritical handling of dissenters against Kenney's unconstitutional lockdown edicts in light of he and his cabinet ministers' own ignorance of his own diktats,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/im_furious_sheila_gunn_reid_takes_premier_kenney_to_task_for_pastor_tim_stephens_arrest "I'm FURIOUS": Sheila Gunn Reid takes Premier Kenney to task for Pastor Tim Stephens arrest] at Rebel News</ref> while reporter Adam Soos, in criticizing the illegal second arrest of Stephens, pointed out that political leaders and public officials who act as Kenney has are basically behaving as hypocritical and thin-skinned despots.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/thin_skinned_despots_cracking_down_on_dissenters_like_pastor_tim_stephens "Thin-skinned despots" cracking down on dissenters like Pastor Tim Stephens] at Rebel News</ref>
*Todd Loewen, the caucus chair of Alberta's governing United Conservative Party, announced that he was stepping down from his position and called on Jason Kenney to resign as premier, citing Kenney's recent bad leadership (including his imposition of harsh lockdown measures and his refusal to listen to his caucus) during the CCP flu pandemic, which has led to much of the public losing confidence in Kenney himself (though not in the UCP).<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/ucp_caucus_chair_todd_loewen_steps_down_calls_on_premier_kenney_to_resign UCP caucus chair Todd Loewen steps down, calls on Premier Kenney to resign] at Rebel News</ref>
*The United Conservatives lifted a ban on protesting and on free speech in the province in time for anti-lockdown Worldwide Freedom Rally events in Calgary and Edmonton, one of dozens of such rallies taking place across Canada and around the world in opposition to unconstitutional and illegal CCP flu lockdown edicts.<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/alberta_lifts_ban_on_protests_just_in_time_for_calgarys_worldwide_freedom_rally Alberta lifts ban on protests just in time for Calgary's Worldwide Freedom Rally] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/edmonton_protesters_tired_of_the_bull_gather_for_worldwide_freedom_rally Edmonton protesters “tired of the bull****” gather for Worldwide Freedom Rally] at Rebel News</ref> The overturn of the ban comes in the wake of controversy that arose when Alberta NDP MLA Irfan Sabir took part in an anti-Semitic pro-"Palestinian" march in Calgary while hypocritically demanding that Jason Kenney continue cracking down on lockdown opponents who take part in anti-lockdown protests.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/ndp_mla_joins_pro-hamas_protest_after_demanding_crackdown_on_protests NDP MLA joins pro-Hamas protest after demanding crackdown on protests] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Calgary, Mission7 Ministries head Derek Reimer, who was twice unjustly ticketed by the Calgary Police Service for feeding the homeless under the officers' claim that Reimer was not [[social distancing]], successfully had the tickets thrown out in court after a Crown prosecutor refused to pursue the case.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/two_tickets_for_calgary_pastor_feeding_the_homeless_tossed SUCCESS: Two tickets for Calgary pastor feeding the homeless tossed] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Edmonton, Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson, Mark Friesen and Chris Sky were the headline speakers at an anti-lockdown rally that drew over 3,500 protesters to the Alberta Legislature; the speakers pointed out that putting an end to the unconstitutional lockdowns and the illegal restrictions on freedoms and rights begins with the protesters and their peaceful resistance to the arbitrary and politically-motivated health regulations being imposed.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/chris_sky_laura_lynn_tyler_thompson_headline_albertas_largest_anti_lockdown_protest Chris Sky, Laura-Lynn Tyler Thompson headline Alberta's largest anti-lockdown protest] at Rebel News</ref> Although the Edmonton police were on hand at the event, no tickets were handed out.
*Jason Kenney and some of his cabinet were caught violating Kenney's own CCP flu lockdown edicts when they were found to have attended a dinner at the Sky Palace (a penthouse on top of the Federal Building in Edmonton) without social distancing or masking and being in excess of attendance limits imposed by Kenney on the rest of Alberta,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/king_kenney_and_his_court_live_luxuriously_atop_the_sky_palace King Kenney and his court live luxuriously atop the Sky Palace, other rule breakers get punished] at Rebel News</ref> but when the Kenney regime was called out on their double standards and hypocrisy in doing as they please and ignoring their own rules while illegally persecuting religious leaders and business owners for refusing to abide by the unconstitutional lockdowns and diktats,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/edmonton_protesters_react_to_premier_kenneys_sky_palace_working_dinner Edmonton protesters react to Premier Kenney's Sky Palace "working dinner"] at Rebel News</ref> Kenney offered a "apology" that rang as hollow to detractors who have called for an end to the regime's actions against the Alberta public.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/apology_not_accepted_jason_kenney_must_make_amends_for_breaking_covid_rules Apology not accepted! Jason Kenney must make amends for breaking COVID rules] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Edmonton, a protest calling for an end to unconstitutional restrictions on religious worship under the cover of the lockdowns was held near the Sky Palace; among the attendees were People's Party of Canada leader Maxime Bernier and Whistle Stop Café owner Chris Scott.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/protesters_gather_below_sky_palace_demand_right_to_worship_as_they_see_fit] at Rebel News</ref>

===British Columbia===
*Physician Dr. Stephen Malthouse criticized Bonnie Henry, BC's unelected public health officer, for the diktats she imposed on the province during the CCP flu pandemic, pointing out that her edicts have been based more on politics and imposition of power and control by the regime of BC NDP premier John Horgan than on scientific fact and stating that there is no scientific or material evidence to justify lockdowns, face mask diktats, social distancing, closures of schools and businesses and closures and/or restrictions on places of worship, then (while pointing out that evidence pointed toward the pandemic being over and that a predicted "second wave" of the CCP flu would not materialize) called on Henry to end her pandemic decrees;<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/canadian-doctor-calls-out-govt-blasts-lockdowns-induce-fear-create-compliance Canadian doctor calls out govt, blasts lockdowns: ‘Induce fear, create compliance’] at LifeSiteNews
*[https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/in-the-news/open-letter-to-dr-bonnie-henry-from-dr-stephen-malthouse/ Open Letter to Dr. Bonnie Henry from Dr. Stephen Malthouse]</ref> despite this and seemingly out of spite, Henry, acting on her claims about the "second wave", took the opposite approach when she imposed a face mask diktat on all businesses, schools and other public places in the province beginning on November 19, 2020,<ref>[https://www.saanichnews.com/news/masks-now-mandatory-in-all-public-indoor-and-retail-spaces-in-b-c/ Masks now mandatory in all public indoor and retail spaces in B.C.] at Saanich News</ref> which she originally said would end on February 5, 2021, but then (following in the footsteps of similar actions by Democrat governors in the United States) decided to arbitrarily extend several times since the original deadline, extending it to February 28, then into March, then to April 30, to May 31 and then most recently to June 30 while also arbitrarily imposing lockdown measures until April 19.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/bc_slapped_with_new_lockdown_restrictions_for_only_three_weeks B.C. slapped with new lockdown restrictions — for only “three weeks”] at Rebel News</ref> Some opponents of the lockdowns responded with a somewhat bizarre anti-lockdown protest themed on the 1988 John Carpenter sci-fi movie ''They Live''.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/vancouver_anti_lockdown_protesters_shock_people_with_creepy_silent_march Vancouver anti-lockdown protesters shock people with creepy silent march] at Rebel News</ref>
*The John Horgan regime, along with co-defendant Bonnie Henry, was sued by the Canadian Society for the Advancement of Science in Public Policy for its illegal and unconstitutional actions in locking down much of the province; the Society noted in its class action lawsuit, "In its response to the COVID-19 virus, the government has invoked extraordinary executive powers predicated on unsubstantiated scientific and legal grounds with catastrophic consequences for British Columbians. In doing so, the defendants have overreached their authority under the Emergency Program Act, the Public Health Act, and have infringed on Charter rights in a manner that does not accord with the principles of fundamental justice."<ref>[https://www.scribd.com/document/492237670/Notice-of-Civil-Claim Notice of Civil Claim - filed by the Canadian Society for the Advancement of Science in Public Policy]</ref> In its response to the suit, the defendants denied the majority of the facts brought forth in the notice filed by the Society (among which was the defendants' refusal to take responsibility for the misinformation they spread to the public regarding the pandemic) and claimed, without providing any proof, that the Society's suit "...lacks sufficient material facts or any legal basis to support the claimed injunctive relief."<ref>[https://www.scribd.com/document/501842512/Response-to-Civil-Claim Response to Civil Claim]</ref>
*Religious freedom came under attack in the province during the pandemic thanks to Bonnie Henry ordering the closure of places of worship and illegally targeting religious worshippers for discrimination by seeking to give police departments in BC unconstitutional power to arrest churchgoers,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/bc_top_doc_files_to_give_police_power_to_arrest_churchgoers B.C. top doc files to give police power to arrest churchgoers] at Rebel News</ref> a move which was denied by BC Supreme Court Chief Justice Christopher Hinkson, who also ruled on the legality of peaceful protests during the pandemic, on February 18.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/british_columbia_judge_tosses_dr_bonnies_bid_to_arrest_churchgoers B.C. judge tosses Dr. Bonnie’s injunction bid to arrest churchgoers] at Rebel News</ref> In response, Henry decided to "compromise" by allowing only a few places of worship to conduct outdoor services, along with Orthodox Jewish synagogues being allowed to hold indoor services, but with pandemic restrictions being placed on the services (including limits on attendance numbers), while many other churches are controversially forced to remain closed under the same decision rendered by Hinkson.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/bc_judge_rules_to_keep_churches_closed_but_peaceful_protests_wide_open B.C. judge rules to keep churches closed but peaceful protests wide open] at Rebel News</ref>
*In [[Vancouver]], the Corduroy Restaurant, a local restaurant and pub, has defied the lockdown diktats of Bonnie Henry by opening the restaurant for in-person dining; Rebecca Matthews, the restaurant's owner, indicated the hypocrisy of Henry in keeping a winery which she owns in the town of Keremeos<ref>[https://www.keremeosreview.com/news/similkameen-winery-co-owned-by-dr-bonnie-henry/ Keremeos winery co-owned by Dr. Bonnie Henry] at Keremeos Review</ref> open during the lockdown as her reason for staying open and defying the lockdown.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/corduroy_restaurant_in_kitsilano_bc_owner_defies_lockdown_order_staff_are_happy_and_healthy Corduroy Restaurant in Kitsilano, BC: Owner defies lockdown order, staff are “happy and healthy”] at Rebel News</ref> Despite being issued a closure order by Vancouver Coastal Health, Matthews intends on fighting to keep her restaurant open in defiance of the small business-targeting lockdown. In a scene that supposedly led to the closedown order, customers of the Corduroy, who were not masked in defiance of Henry's face mask diktat, joined in solidarity with Matthews by kicking out health inspectors sent by government bureaucrats out of the restaurant when the inspectors insisted on trespassing.<ref>[https://www.wnd.com/2021/04/get-health-police-loudly-shouted-restaurant-yet-another-fearless-revolt/ 'Get out!' Health police loudly shouted out of restaurant in yet another fearless revolt] at WorldNetDaily</ref>
*In Vancouver, comedian Alexander Lasarev, who opposes the use of face masks in the CCP flu pandemic, was viciously attacked by a pro-mask thug, who used his bicycle as a weapon to smash a side window of Lasarev's car, while Lasarev was speaking at an anti-lockdown rally.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/pro_masker_attacks_peaceful_freedom_protester_with_bicycle WATCH: Pro-masker attacks peaceful freedom protester with bicycle] at Rebel News</ref> Vancouver police have recommended assault charges against the thug, while the liberal media unsurprisingly protected the thug's identity by concealing his face in their reports and engaged in victim-blaming on Lasarev.
*In Vancouver, restaurant owner Feredrico Fuoco defied the unconstitutional CCP flu lockdown diktats of Bonnie Henry by opening his restaurant, Gusto, to indoor dining (which has been forbidden under the diktats by Henry while, as noted above, she hypocritically keeps her winery in Keremeos open - which Fuoco noted in his decision to reopen his restaurant for indoor dining).<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/were_dying_a_slow_death_restaurant_owner_explains_why_he_opened_against_public_health_orders “We’re dying a slow death”: Restaurant owner explains why he opened against public health orders]] at Rebel News</ref> Because of this, the Horgan regime, acting under Henry's orders, have hypocritically targeted Fuoco's business by suspending his business license.
*In Vancouver, approximately 2,000 protesters, many of them business owners, gathered to protest the lockdown edicts of Bonnie Henry, which have negatively impacted small and medium-sized businesses in the province since they were imposed.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/bc_business_owners_flood_streets_of_vancouver_to_protest_latest_covid-19_restrictions B.C. business owners flood streets of Vancouver to protest latest COVID-19 restrictions] at Rebel News</ref>
*Religious worshippers in the province continue to defy the arbitrary lockdown diktats of Bonnie Henry targeting them, including her recent capricious decision to rescind the exceptions she made for outdoor worship services, by finding legal ways to gather and worship, including holding worship-style anti-lockdown protests in public spaces.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/bc_christians_worship_together_in_protest_of_religious_restrictions B.C. Christians worship together in protest of COVID religious restrictions] at Rebel News</ref>
*In the village of Lytton, local doctor Charles Hoffe voiced concern after a number of people who received Moderna CCP flu "vaccines" began experiencing various negative effects from the shots (including allergic reactions and neurological side effects), with First Nations people who received the shots displaying the most concerning reactions.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/whistleblower_doctor_speaks_out_after_first_nations_patients_experience_serious_vaccine_side_effects Whistleblower doctor speaks out after First Nations patients experience serious vaccine side effects] at Rebel News</ref> At least one person, who developed COPD following his shot but had no previous history of cardiovascular disease, was reported to have died and at least three others suffered possible permanent disabilities after receiving the "vaccines", while other reported negative reactions included anaphylaxis, dizziness, neuromuscular weakness and chronic pain.
*After John Horgan and his public safety minister Mike Farnworth announced plans to restrict non-essential travel in British Columbia as part of the ruling BC New Democratic Party's pandemic diktats, the National Police Federation (the union representing the RCMP), as well as several advocacy groups, expressed concern over how the restrictions would be enforced (if at all), noting the potential for logistics problems as well as abuse of enforcement policy, which NPF spokesman Robert Farrer noted could damage already-fragile public trust.<ref>[https://www.citynews1130.com/2021/04/22/bc-travel-restrictions-rcmp-advocates-worried/ B.C.'s incoming travel restrictions worry RCMP, advocacy groups] at CKWX website</ref>
*In Vancouver, hundreds of people attended an anti-lockdown rally headlined by Toronto anti-lockdown and anti-face mask activist Chris Sky, who encouraged Canadians to stand up for their Charter rights against illegal and unconstitutional pandemic diktats.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/hundreds_gather_for_chris_sky_freedom_rally_in_vancouver Hundreds gather for Chris Sky freedom rally in Vancouver] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Kelowna, Ryan Scarpino, the owner of the Dynamic Studios tattoo shop, declared that he would not require his customers to show proof of medical exemption from wearing face masks if they chose not to wear masks into his shop.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/bc_tattoo_shop_facing_backlash_for_pro_choice_mask_policy B.C. tattoo shop facing backlash for “pro-choice” mask policy] at Rebel News</ref> Local online media outlet Castanet, [[fake news|engaging in story manipulation to suit its narrative]], claimed that Scarpino had said "masks are not required at their studio", which led to bylaw officers visiting the shop and to pro-mask cranks leaving negative online reviews of the shop; Scarpino responded by stating that his shop is not anti-mask, but pro-choice regarding face masks.
*In Vancouver, attendees at a Worldwide Freedom Rally event denounced leftist politicians such as federal [[NDP]] leader Jagmeet Singh and Calgary mayor Naheed Nenshi for [[Liberal Style#Debate and rhetorical tactics|their divisive and false labeling]] of CCP flu lockdown opponents as "extremists", "white supremacists" and "racists" and criticized them for [[liberalism and racism|making the protests about race]], even though they have nothing to do with race.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/vancouver_rallygoers_denounce_extremist_labels_at_worldwide_freedom_rally Vancouver rallygoers denounce “extremist” labels at Worldwide Freedom Rally] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Vancouver, parents and dissenting teachers called for the Vancouver School Board to ban the administration of CCP flu "vaccines" to school children without parental consent, with some angry parents stating point-blank that their children are not "lab rats" to be experimented on and that the School Board has no right to allow teachers to coerce or bribe children into getting the "vaccines" without parental consent or knowledge; some parents also declared that they will serve notice of liabilities to any school faculty members found to be involved in vaccinating children without parental consent.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/parents_teachers_demand_vancouver_school_board_ban_vaccines_for_children_without_parental_consent Parents, teachers demand Vancouver School Board ban vaccines for children without parental consent] at Rebel News</ref>
*Vancouver native Shawn Hibbs and his partner Lorie Mclachlan were unjustly fined and threatened with illegal imprisonment for refusing to submit to invasive testing for the CCP flu and for refusing to be quarantined at a Trudeau "COVID-19 hotel" at their own expense after they and other family members returned from exile in Mexico, where they originally fled after learning about the Trudeau regime's increasing infringement of the rights of Canadian citizens under the ruse of "public health"; Hibbs (who correctly called the Trudeau-imposed CCP flu rules unethical, immoral and illegal) and Mclachlan were prepared to fight the violations against them in court when they learned that the fines and other threatened sanctions had been dropped beforehand on a technicality.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/vancouver_families_quarantine_fines_dropped VICTORY: Vancouver family's quarantine fines dropped] at Rebel News</ref>
*Bonnie Henry announced the illegal imposition of "vaccine passports" against British Columbia citizens, with no medical or religious exemptions and in violation of both the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the province's Human Rights Code as well as being a violation of privacy law, at a recent press conference.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/ezra_levant_show_august_24_2021 British Columbia throws out Charter of Rights, brings in a vaccine passport with no exemptions] at Rebel News</ref> John Horgan later announced that he would have police forces in the province enforce Henry's "vaccine passport" diktat, which will negatively affect such businesses as restaurants, bars, nightclubs, casinos, sports events, fitness gyms and movie theatres;<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/british_columbia_vaccine_card_premier_john_horgan_passport_police_enforcement Businesses should call police if patrons don't comply with vaccine card requirements, B.C. premier says] at Rebel News
*[https://vancouversun.com/news/local-news/covid-19-premier-says-police-will-enforce-vaccine-card-rules COVID-19: Premier says police will enforce vaccine card rules] at the Vancouver Sun</ref> in response, many businesses in the province have declared that they will not comply with the passport diktat, saying that they will not ask their patrons to prove their vaccination status.
*In Kamloops, health care workers spoke out against the CCP flu "vaccines" and being coerced into taking them under threat of losing their jobs if they refuse.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/unvaccinated_healthcare_workers_from_kamloops_b_c_speak_out Unvaccinated healthcare workers from Kamloops, B.C. speak out] at Rebel News</ref>

===Manitoba===
*In a display of government hypocrisy during the CCP flu pandemic, [[Winnipeg]] city employees were allowed to use an exclusive fitness gym, open only to them, while all other public gyms in the city have been forced to remain closed under bureaucratic pandemic regulations.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/winnipeg_gym_open_for_city_employees Winnipeg city employees allowed to use exclusive gym while all others shut down] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Dauphin, Alex Lytwyn, who has [[cerebral palsy]] and is mask-exempt because of it, was accosted by store security and treated with indignity due to his condition at the local Walmart for not wearing a mask when he entered the store to do some Christmas shopping, then was forced to leave the store along with his accompanying support worker (although he was able to shop at other stores near the Walmart without incident).<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/security_kicks_shopper_with_cerebral_palsy_and_a_legal_mask_exemption_out_of_manitoba_walmart Security kicks shopper with cerebral palsy (and a legal mask exemption) out of Manitoba Walmart] at Rebel News</ref> When confronted by Rebel News about the store's refusal to respect Lytwyn's mask exemption, Walmart management refused to respond.
*Manitoba "conservative" premier [[Brian Pallister]] came under heavy criticism for ludicrously declaring that [[Christmas]] was "non-essential" during pandemic restrictions in the province;<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/manitoba_premier_brian_pallister_is_the_premier_who_stole_christmas Manitoba Premier Brian Pallister is the “Premier Who Stole Christmas”] at Rebel News</ref> as part of those restrictions, a [[Walmart]] in Winnipeg was forced to ban sales of Christmas-themed items, including cards, toys, trees and decorations, as those items - although available in-store - were kept under lock and key.
*In Winnipeg, Kelly and Melissa Hildebrand were targeted in heavy-handed fashion by city police and hit with illegal fines for attending an anti-CCP flu lockdown protest outside Bell MTS Place, the home arena of the [[National Hockey League]]'s [[Winnipeg Jets]] team.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/protesting_outside_an_nhl_arena_nets_family_2600_in_fines Protesting outside an NHL arena nets family $2,600 in fines] at Rebel News</ref> Melissa Hildebrand stated that she and her husband attended the protest, as is their right under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, to point out the hypocrisy of professional sports teams being allowed to work and make a living during the pandemic while regular Manitobans are not. The couple intend on fighting the fines in court.
*In Steinbach, church pastor Tobias Tissen was unjustly and vindictively targeted with charges and fines for organizing a protest<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/charged_for_organizing_a_protest_in_manitoba Pastor CHARGED for organizing a PROTEST in Manitoba] at Rebel News</ref> and holding drive-in church services<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/church_charged_6000_for_drive_in_services_bylaw_wait_until_media_party_leaves_to_issue_tickets Church CHARGED $6,000 for DRIVE-IN services; bylaw wait until Media Party leaves to issue tickets] at Rebel News</ref> (which [[liberal media]] reporters refused to cover) in defiance of draconian pandemic restrictions imposed by Brian Pallister; as part of Pallister's mandated discrimination campaign against religious worshippers, Tissen was also illegally threatened (in violation of the Charter) with one year in prison for continuing to hold worship services.
:*As a result of the Pallister regime's illegal persecution of him, Tissen was later forced to go on the run after a warrant was put out for his arrest, stating that abiding by Pallister's lockdown diktats (including forcing worshipers to mask and social distance) would mean that he would be unable to hold church services, which he, speaking as a man of God, refused to abide by; he also added that the Pallister regime is trying to illegally arrest him while no one is watching, then stated that the only place he will allow himself to be arrested in is at his church in front of witnesses, which the bureaucrats who issued the warrant want to avoid doing to avoid bad press.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/defiant_pastor_on_the_run_from_police_in_manitoba Defiant pastor on the run from police in Manitoba, will only be arrested at church] at Rebel News</ref> Tissen's church has also been targeted in other ways as part of the organized persecution, as it has come under illegal threat of a million dollar fine by provincial health bureaucrats for defying Pallister's diktats, while the church building was targeted for vandalism by pro-lockdown cranks.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/update_police_continue_to_hunt_down_pastor_while_threatening_his_church_with_a_potential_1_million_fine Update: Police continue to hunt down Pastor while threatening his church with potential million dollar fine] at Rebel News</ref>
*A recent decision by the Brian Pallister regime to push CCP flu "vaccines" on children and teens between ages 12-15 without parental consent was criticized by Rebel News, which noted that children in that age range are not legally old enough to make informed choices about invasive medical procedures (which the "vaccine" injections are).<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/manitobas_12-year-olds_can_get_covid_jab_without_parental_consent Manitoba's 12-year-olds can get COVID jab without parental consent] at Rebel News</ref>
*People's Party of Canada leader Maxime Bernier was illegally arrested by Manitoba RCMP officers for refusing to quarantine for two weeks as he arrived in the province to host anti-lockdown protests in multiple cities and towns.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/peoples_party_leader_maxime_bernier_arrested_in_manitoba BREAKING: People's Party leader Maxime Bernier arrested in Manitoba] at Rebel News</ref>

===New Brunswick===
*In Bathurst, Nick DeAngelis and Britney Green, a couple who are mask-exempt for health reasons, were targeted for illegal harassment by businesses who did not respect their exemptions, as well as by the local RCMP detachment, when they were roughed up and arrested, falsely charged with "disturbing the peace", "mischief" and "obstruction of an officer" despite their doctor-authorized mask exemptions, and forced to wear N95 masks while being held for 12 hours in a jail cell on the false charges.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/maritimes_most_wanted_mask_exempt_couple_in_nb_treated_like_dangerous_criminals Maritimes' Most Wanted: mask-exempt couple in N.B. treated like dangerous criminals] at Rebel News</ref> Several weeks later, DeAngelis, Green and several others were illegally arrested for their opposition to state-imposed medical tyranny by attending a peaceful anti-CCP flu lockdown protest, with DeAngelis and Green being unjustly held for four days (part of which was spent in solitary confinement) and being treated as "criminals" for standing up for their rights under the [[Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms]]. Rebel News, which reported the story, announced that they have hired a lawyer for DeAngelis and Green to help them fight the illegal actions of the RCMP and pro-medical tyranny public officials.
*In Woodstock, Wendy Kirkland, who is medically exempt from wearing face masks, was unjustly arrested, roughed up Gestapo-style and injured by RCMP officers when employees at a local Hart Stores department store refused her admission and reported her to them because the employees refused to respect or honor her mask exemption and also refused to respect that she is not legally obligated to tell them that she is medically exempt.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/new_brunswick_woman_arrested_pinned_by_cops_for_entering_store_while_mask_exempt New Brunswick woman arrested, pinned by cops for entering store while mask exempt] at Rebel News</ref> As a result of the incident, Kirkland is taking Hart Stores and the RCMP to court.

===Nova Scotia===
*In the community of Weston, RCMP officers unjustly charged a total of $2,422 against 26 congregants who attended a worship service of the Weston Christian Fellowship Church, as well as illegally fining the church itself $11,622.50, for going against a CCP flu lockdown diktat issued by the Nova Scotia Liberal regime of Premier Iain Rankin disallowing worship services.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/nova_scotia_rcmp_issue_74k_in_covid_fines_at_small_town_weston_christian_fellowship_church Nova Scotia RCMP issue $74k in COVID fines at small town Weston Christian Fellowship Church] at Rebel News</ref>
*A [[Halifax]] resident on his way to Cape Breton Highlands National Park for a hike along its [[John Cabot|Cabot]] Trail was unjustly fined over $2,400 by the RCMP under a claim of "non-essential travel" outside his hometown under an Iain Rankin-ordered CCP flu lockdown.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/solitary_driver_ticketed_en_route_to_hike_cape_breton_highlands_national_park Solitary driver ticketed $2,422 en route to hike in Cape Breton national park] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Yarmouth, the RCMP unjustly fined the owner of a food truck $11,622.50 for the truck's employees not wearing face masks, as the owner correctly noted that the unconstitutional public health restrictions being imposed by Iain Rankin are not "law".<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/food_truck_owner_fined_11k_in_nova_scotia_for_maskless_employees Nova Scotia food truck owner fined $11k for maskless employees] at Rebel News</ref>
*During a joint press conference with Iain Rankin, Robert Strang, Nova Scotia's public health officer, reported that the CCP flu "vaccines" are not 100% effective and that, even after receiving two injections, some injection recipients "may die".<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/ns_top_doc_vaccines_not_100_per_cent_effective_some_people_may_die Nova Scotia top doc: Vaccines not 100% effective, "some people may die"] at Rebel News</ref>

===Ontario===
*In [[Toronto]], a series of anti-CCP flu lockdown protests, all of which were peaceful, drew large crowds to protest businesses and personal freedoms being targeted by unconstitutional diktats, based more on politics than on science, issued by liberal public officials who have hypocritically exempted themselves from their own edicts.<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/toronto_montreal_see_thousands_protest_against_covid_restrictions Toronto, Montreal see thousands protest against COVID restrictions] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/toronto_sees_its_biggest_protest_against_lockdowns_yet_for_worldwide_freedom_rally Toronto sees its biggest protest against lockdowns yet for Worldwide Freedom Rally] at Rebel News</ref> Toronto mayor John Tory, a supporter of the lockdowns, has targeted the protests through illegal harassment<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/toronto_police_target_protesters_holding_signs_megaphones_at_anti_lockdown_rally Toronto police target protesters holding signs, megaphones at anti-lockdown rally] at Rebel News</ref> and arrests<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/toronto_police_arrest_lockdown_protesters Toronto police ARREST lockdown protesters] at Rebel News</ref> of the protesters by the Toronto Police Service<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/police_state_toronto_cops_lockdown_protesters_clash_at_yonge_dundas_square POLICE STATE: Toronto cops, lockdown protesters clash at Yonge-Dundas Square] at Rebel News</ref> to make examples of the protesters for standing up for their rights while hypocritically allowing [[BLM]] "protesters" and representatives of the Tamil Tigers terrorist group<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/tamil_tiger_rally_free_to_demonstrate_in_toronto Tamil Tiger rally free to demonstrate in Toronto] at Rebel News</ref> to have their way; yet in later protests, because of the larger numbers of protesters, the TPS used discretion and took a hands-off approach, allowing the protesters to march.
*In Angus (a community within the township of Essa, near Barrie), Melissa Cippone, the mother of two children attending local private school Our Lady of Grace Catholic School, spoke out when her mask-exempt children were shamed by school staff and denied their exemptions, despite providing two notes from the family's physician explaining the exemption, which both school principal Saundra Reynolds and Simcoe-Muskoka Catholic District School Board superintendent Lonnie Bolton, based on personal interpretation and not on informed medical opinion, claimed were "not sufficient", with Bolton also attempting to make convoluted excuses for his decision using the Board's "Guide to Reopening Schools" pandemic policy as his basis.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/elementary_school_principal_overrules_doctor_demands_child_wear_mask Elementary school principal overrules doctor, demands child wear mask] at Rebel News</ref> When pressed by Rebel News about what gave him the "right" to overrule a doctor on the issue, Bolton refused to respond further.
*In Oshawa, Chris Hopps, who is medically exempt from wearing face masks, was threatened with false "trespassing" charges by Michelle Carter, the principal of Hopps' sons' school Glen Street Public School, if he showed up on school property without a mask to drop off and pick up his sons; Carter, who has refused to honor or respect Hopps' mask exemption, threatened to sicc the Durham Regional Police on Hopps as part of her threat against him.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/school_threatens_mask_exempt_father_with_trespass_charge_for_picking_up_his_kids School threatens mask-exempt father with Trespass charge for picking up his kids] at Rebel News</ref> Hopps explained that Carter's decision was based more on fear than on facts, while school staff, including Carter, refused to speak to Rebel News when they were asked to justify their actions.
*In response to skepticism about the CCP flu pandemic, Dr. Samantha Hill, the president of the Ontario Medical Association, held a press conference where she publicly invited the public to tour "COVID wards" of local hospitals in the province to learn the "truth" about the pandemic; when Rebel News reporter David Menzies took up Hill's offer and attempted to book a tour of such a ward at Sunnybrook Hospital in Toronto, Menzies did not hear back from hospital administration, presumably because his tour would have exposed the lie being crafted and spread by unethical doctors and public health officials regarding "COVID wards" allegedly being filled to capacity by the pandemic (and which, by extension, would have cast doubt on its actual threat level).<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/doctor_invites_public_to_tour_covid_wards_then_backtracks Doctor invites public to tour COVID wards... then backtracks] at Rebel News</ref> In addition, in response to Menzies taking Hill up on her offer, OMA spokesman Aleks Dhefto tried giving a convoluted explanation to him to make an excuse for not letting him do the tour, with Menzies later reporting that Hill was presumably expecting that no one would actually take her up on the offer.
*In Stoney Creek (a community within the borders of [[Hamilton (city)|Hamilton]]), a family birthday party celebrating a teen daughter's 16th birthday was raided by Hamilton police and the six adults present were each unjustly fined $815, based on the family's neighbors ratting them out to police and lying about the number of people present at the party under CCP flu edicts issued by Ontario "conservative" premier Doug Ford (the informant claimed there were "25 people" present, when in reality, only ten people were present at the party).<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/sweet_16_birthday_party_crashed_by_covid_cops Sweet 16 birthday party crashed by COVID cops] at Rebel News</ref> The targeted adults intend on fighting the fines in court.
*In Toronto, mixed martial artist Corrine LaFrambroise, who had returned to Canada from training and competing in MMA fights in [[Dubai]] due to the CCP flu lockdowns affecting her ability to make a living in her sport in Canada, was hit, along with her trainer, with nearly $8,000 in unjust fines for refusing to quarantine at one of Justin Trudeau's controversial "COVID-19 hotels" instead of at home.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/mma_fighter_denied_covid_hotel_exemption_granted_to_other_athletes_fined_3750 MMA fighter denied COVID hotel exemption granted to other athletes, fined $3,750] at Rebel News</ref> LaFramboise and her trainer intend to fight the illegal fines in court.
*In [[Ottawa]], anti-lockdown protesters held a Family Fun Day event, also attended by children of the protesters, on Parliament Hill.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/parliament_hill_protesters_host_family_fun_day Parliament Hill protesters host Family Fun Day] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Mississauga (a Toronto suburb), the HUF Boxing Gym announced that it would be reopening its facilities in defiance of Doug Ford's CCP flu lockdown edicts, which have been publicly criticized for being inconsistent by allowing big box stores, occupied by hundreds of customers at any given time, to be open for business while forcing the shutdowns of fitness gyms, where no cases of the CCP flu have occurred.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/ontario_boxing_gym_reopens_and_is_ready_to_fight_their_rights Ontario boxing gym reopens and is ready to fight for their rights] at Rebel News</ref> Gym owner Teresa Heron pointed out that Ford's policy to shut down fitness gyms to keep people "healthy" as part of his lockdown diktats makes no sense, as preventing gym customers from accessing the facilities and improving their health through exercise only ends up making the customers unhealthy. In response to the decision by HUF to reopen and to stay open, local liberal media outlets engaged in a bout of pearl-clutching over the gym while Mississauga mayor Bonnie Crombie threatened to get heavy-handed with the gym by levying heavy fines against it for defying the lockdown diktats, and Peel Regional Police officer Sgt. Paul Brown, who sided with the gym owners and refused to impose any penalties on them, was unjustly suspended, with an internal investigation commencing against him;<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/huf_gym_remains_open_despite_huffing_and_puffing_from_mississauga_mayor Huf Gym remains open despite huffing and puffing from Mississauga mayor] at Rebel News</ref> the officer was later reinstated.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/reinstated_rally_held_for_cop_who_supported_locked_down_gym REINSTATED: rally held for cop who supported locked down gym] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Toronto, a group called Canadian Frontline Nurses and several hundred supporters staged a protest outside the College of Nurses of Ontario's downtown office to criticize the censoring of nurses (as well as threats by the CNO of both unemployment and to strip them of their nursing credentials) who speak out against the harmful and draconian CCP flu protocols being imposed;<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/nurses_protest_censorship_of_differing_opinions_on_covid Nurses protest censorship of differing opinions on COVID] at Rebel News</ref> one of the guest speakers at the rally, Kristen Nagle, had recently been unjustly fired from her nursing job in London, Ontario for speaking out on issues such as CCP flu "vaccines", with her then-employer, the London Health Sciences Centre, using a false accusation made against her of being an "insurrectionist" because she had spoken at a meeting of Global Frontline Nurses in [[Washington, D.C.]] on January 6, 2021 - the same day that the [[2021 Capitol riot|Antifa-instigated riot and siege at the US Capitol]] occurred nearby - as its excuse to fire her.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/update_nurse_who_travelled_to_dc_for_summit_has_been_fired UPDATE: Nurse who travelled to DC for summit has been FIRED] at Rebel News</ref> Nagle also announced that CFN has filed a class action lawsuit against the CNO for its attitude toward the nurses who hold differing opinions regarding the CCP flu; meanwhile, CNO representatives refused to speak to Rebel News when contacted about the controversy involving it.
*In Gravenhurst, the Ontario Provincial Police came under criticism for an incident at a skate park (one of many in the province recently ordered closed by Doug Ford as part of his lockdown diktats) in that city where an OPP officer, acting under the extended police lockdown powers granted them by Ford, was caught on-camera roughly shoving a 12-year-old boy off his scooter.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/watch_ontario_police_officer_pushes_child_to_the_ground_at_park WATCH: Ontario police officer pushes child to the ground at park] at Rebel News</ref> The OPP announced that it would be investigating the incident.
*In Toronto, another anti-lockdown protest went off without incident as Toronto Police Service officers, defying the newest dictatorial lockdown orders recently imposed by Doug Ford<ref>[https://globalnews.ca/news/7765907/ontario-police-forces-new-covid-19-powers/ Many Ontario police forces won’t use new COVID-19 powers to conduct random stops] at Global News</ref> in defiance of the fact that lockdowns do not work,<ref>[https://torontosun.com/news/local-news/levy-three-prominent-docs-call-lockdowns-a-waste-of-time LEVY: Three prominent docs call lockdowns a waste of time] at the Toronto Sun</ref> allowed the protest to go ahead and not only refused to ticket or arrest any of its participants, but even escorted the protest along its route.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/no_arrests_or_charges_at_weekly_toronto_protest_after_ford_grants_officers_more_power No arrests or charges at weekly Toronto protest after Ford grants officers more power] at Rebel News</ref> With his lockdown diktats no longer having the support of most police departments in Ontario, Ford was forced to walk back his orders, including his forced closures of children's playgrounds and skate parks and banning of all outdoor gatherings outside of small family events.
:*On a side note, of the 45 provincially-mandated police forces and nine self-administered First Nations police services in Ontario, only the OPP, the provincial police force in Ontario, came out in favor of the Ford lockdown diktats that also unconstitutionally gave them power to conduct random and unwarranted stops, with all 44 regional and municipal police forces and most First Nations police in the province voicing opposition; even the OPP has become divided on the issue, with some OPP jurisdictions stating that they will not enforce Ford's lockdown orders.<ref>[https://twitter.com/AndrewLawton/status/1383585291793944577 Andrew Lawton: "FINAL TALLY: Of Ontario's 45 provincially-mandated police forces (44 municipal/regional + OPP), all but three came out against random and unwarranted stops"] at Twitter</ref>
*In the town of Aylmer, mother of two Sheri Lynn Visscher was unjustly hit with a summons to appear in court despite following CCP flu guidelines (including remaining in her car) while attending a drive-in church service, one month after the fact.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/attending_drive_in_church_service_results_in_summons_to_court_for_covid_infraction Attending drive-in church service results in summons to court for COVID infraction] at Rebel News</ref>
*In the township of Havelock-Belmont-Methuen (near Peterborough), the Ontario Provincial Police, continuing to act as Doug Ford's CCP flu lockdown enforcers, threatened to send the provincial Children's Aid Society after parents and their children and fine the parents while harassing them for gathering at a local park, based on an anonymous complaint.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/opp_childrens_aid_havelock Police say Children's Aid could be called on lockdown offenders at local park] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Toronto, a customer at a Home Hardware store, who was exempt from wearing face masks for medical reasons, was denied service and forced out of the store when its staff refused to honor his exemption, followed by another staff member covering up part of an outdoor sign making note of Toronto's mask bylaw making exceptions for those medically exempt from wearing masks because of the staffer's personal dislike of the exemption; when confronted by Rebel News reporter David Menzies about the store's actions in defiance of the bylaw exemption, a staff member (who was identified as possibly being the store owner) refused to speak to Menzies and threatened to file trespassing charges against him.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/toronto_home_hardware_employee_doesnt_like_mask_exemption_rule_on_bylaw_sign_so_he_covers_it_up Toronto Home Hardware employee doesn’t like mask exemption rule on bylaw sign — so he covers it up!] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Peterborough, [[People's Party of Canada]] leader [[Maxime Bernier]] and Ontario independent MPP Randy Hillier were unjustly hit with tickets by the Peterborough Police Service for speaking at an anti-lockdown protest; the PPS acted at the behest of Peterborough's leftist [[SJW]] mayor, Diane Therrien, who opposed the presence of the conservative politicians in the city and made her feelings clear in several juvenile Twitter posts, including one particularly vulgar tweet.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/bernier_hillier_ticketed_during_tense_rally_in_peterborough_ontario Bernier, Hillier ticketed during tense rally in Peterborough, Ontario] at Rebel News</ref> Therrien was heavily criticized on Twitter for her classless posts, while the approximately 1,200 protesters present at the event reacted negatively to the actions of the PPS in its illegal harassment of a constitutionally-protected protest. At the same event, Rebel News reporter David Menzies was illegally hit with spurious charges<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/handshakes_laughter_illegal_in_the_peoples_republic_of_peterborough WHAT A JOKE: Handshakes, laughter illegal in the People's Republic of Peterborough] at Rebel News</ref> by the PPS for the "crime" of covering the protest.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/rebel_reporter_charged_for_covering_lockdown_protest_in_peterborough_ontario Rebel reporter CHARGED for covering lockdown protest in Peterborough, Ontario] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Peterborough, barber Alex Masters, the owner of Who's Next Barbershop, was targeted and harassed by Diane Therrien, Peterborough Public Health and the PPS when he chose to open his shop in defiance of unconstitutional lockdown diktats handed down by Therrien; he was hit with unjust fines totaling $1,750 for his shop being open during the local lockdown because of Peterborough Public Health's misguided belief that a barber shop is an alleged "super spreader environment", despite the fact that barber shops are highly scrupulous regarding hygiene and sanitation and only allow a few customers in at any given time, while the PPS, acting on the orders of the health bureaucrats, came by during overnight hours to change the locks on the barber shop and board it up without just cause or notice to Masters.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/peterboroughs_great_barbershop_rebellion_quashed_by_the_usual_suspects Peterborough’s “Great Barbershop Rebellion” quashed by the usual suspects] at Rebel News</ref> Masters intends to fight the illegal actions against him in court.
*Nineteen active and retired Ontario police officers announced plans to take the province to court over the unconstitutional restriction of freedoms being imposed due to the CCP flu; Toronto attorney Rocco Galati, representing the officers, noted that the lockdown edicts imposed by Doug Ford are too vague and broad and that they cause many police officers to breach their oaths to uphold the Canadian Constitution, particularly by stopping citizens without cause and demanding identification.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/no_more_oath_breaking_nineteen_active_and_retired_police_officers_take_the_province_of_ontario_to_court_over_wuhan_virus_lockdown_measures No more oath breaking! Nineteen active and retired police officers take the Province of Ontario to court over Wuhan virus lockdown measures] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Aylmer, the Church of God, which had been holding drive-in worship services since shortly after the onset of the original lockdown imposed by Doug Ford in 2020, got the go-ahead to host indoor services after a judge denied the Ontario attorney general's move to illegally disrupt worship services at the church building by posting armed police officers to block congregants from entering (in violation of Section 176 of the Criminal Code).<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/church_of_god_in_aylmer_ontario_scores_a_victory_in_fight_to_keep_its_doors_open Church of God in Aylmer, Ontario scores a victory in fight to keep its doors open] at Rebel News</ref> However, under orders from liberal court judge Bruce Thomas (who also unjustly fined the church $35,000 and its pastor, Henry Hildebrant, $10,000 for hosting worship services in defiance of Doug Ford's unconstitutional lockdown diktats and his abuse of power), Aylmer police recently illegally seized the Church of God building, violated the Criminal Code by disrupting a worship service in progress and evicted the congregants and put locks on the doors.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/police_in_ontario_seize_aylmer_church_of_god_pastor_fined_for_holding_services Police in Ontario seize Aylmer Church of God, pastor fined for holding services] at Rebel News</ref> Independent MPs Derek Sloan and Randy Hillier went on Twitter to criticize the Aylmer police for its participation in religious persecution, while church leaders chastized the Ford regime for its illegal actions in violation of the Charter.
:*Undeterred by the illegal actions of the police, the Church of God congregation held worship services outdoors, which a [[gender confusion|gender-confused]] male activist claiming to be a "woman", along with a female companion, tried to disrupt with an attention-seeking protest.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/aylmer_trans_community_protests_outdoor_sermon_at_church_of_god_calls_cops_on_rebel_news Aylmer’s trans community (pop. 2) protests outdoor sermon at Church of God, calls cops on Rebel News]</ref> When David Menzies of Rebel News attempted to interview the leftist disruptors and made statements they did not like (including questions the disruptors considered inconvenient, such as why they thought [[Black Lives Matter]] agitators could gather by the hundreds to "protest" without social distancing but religious worshipers could not gather to worship), the man became upset when he was correctly called "sir" while the woman (who likewise got upset and claimed she was "not a lady" when referred to as such) kept trying to disrupt Menzies by filming him with her cell phone, frequently honking the horn of the couple's SUV and profanely shouting at him and falsely calling Rebel News "fake news", then they were joined by another leftist woman who gave convoluted justifications and non-factual arguments for the continuing CCP flu lockdowns and refused to listen to factual arguments made by Menzies regarding outdoor gatherings; soon after, the couple called on and sicced the Aylmer police on Menzies, who the officers - acting in a Gestapo-like fashion - harassed and illegally threatened to arrest for doing his job as a journalist while they refused to answer his questions.
*In Toronto, another anti-lockdown and pro-Charter rights protest went off mostly uneventfully, except for calls by protesters for the arrest of Doug Ford and an incident where a protester was intercepted, ticketed and removed by Toronto police officers under the alleged charge of "breaking" Ford's stay-at-home orders, but was in reality because the protester had been creating and handing out anti-lockdown and anti-"vaccine" signs.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/give_me_my_rights_back_weekly_toronto_freedom_rally_sees_at_least_one_arrest_one_ticket “Give me my rights back!”: Weekly Toronto Freedom Rally sees at least one arrest, one ticket] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Hamilton, an anti-lockdown protest organized by Randy Hillier and attended by hundreds of protesters went off without trouble, with no harassment from Hamilton police despite its presence at the event.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/win_for_freedom_no_tickets_issued_at_hamilton_anti_lockdown_protest Win for freedom: No tickets issued at Hamilton anti-lockdown protest] at Rebel News</ref>
*In the town of St. Jacobs, the Waterloo Regional Police, acting at the behest of the provincial attorney-general's office, became the latest entity to engage in unjust persecution of religious worshipers during the Doug Ford-ordered CCP flu lockdowns by illegally raiding the town's Trinity Bible Chapel and changing its locks to prevent the church's congregation from using the building.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/the_state_continues_its_war_on_religion_by_shutting_trinity_bible_chapel_church The state continues its war on religion by shutting Trinity Bible Chapel church] at Rebel News</ref> In his findings on the controversy, liberal judge John Krawchenko, who had granted the attorney-general's request, claimed that by allowing the church to be open, "...(t)he risk of irreparable harm would be too great to ignore...", even though he provided no proof that places of worship are the hotspots for transmission of the CCP flu that government officials falsely claim them to be. Trinity Bible Chapel has been targeted by the Ford regime via millions of dollars in unjust fines, as well as illegal harassment of congregants by the WRP by recording their license plates, then tracking them down and fining them, even though no actual crimes were committed; Rebel News also noted the hypocrisy in the Ford-ordered lockdowns on places of worship while allowing Walmarts, Costcos and government liquor stores to remain open with far more capacity.
*In Hamilton, police officers stormed out from Hamilton City Hall to illegally detain and fine the majority of protesters involved in an anti-lockdown protest.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/bylaw_and_armed_police_storm_out_of_hamiltons_city_hall_to_detain_and_fine_anti_lockdown_protesters Bylaw and armed police storm out of Hamilton's City Hall to detain and fine anti-lockdown protesters] at Rebel News</ref> In its report on the incident, Rebel News noted that the presence of their cameras at such incidents is the only reason corrupt police officers, acting under orders from equally corrupt public officials, do not resort to Gestapo-style thug tactics in most cases.
*The Canadian Armed Forces reported that dozens of deaths at two nursing homes in Ontario were the result of dehydration, malnutrition and neglect under deplorable conditions and sub-standard care, not from the CCP flu as falsely claimed by the facilities.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/ontario_nursing_home_deaths_dehydration_neglect_covid_canadian_military Dozens of Ontario nursing home deaths were from dehydration, neglect — not COVID, military says] at Rebel News</ref> Nicola Major, a spokeswoman for the management company which runs Downsview Long Term Care Centre, one of the nursing homes under investigation, claimed ignorance about the issues raised by the Armed Forces and also claimed that management had been present at Downsview at all times, contradictory to the CAF's report.
*In Toronto, an anti-lockdown protest at Queen's Park saw some of its participants illegally targeted by corrupt Toronto police officers for exercising their constitutional right to protest; one man who took part in the protest, who was cleaning up garbage from the park grounds, was arrested for refusing to identify himself under the ironically-named "Reopening Ontario Act" and led away in handcuffs as protesters on the scene criticized the officers and called them "Gestapo" for their actions, but not before he criticized the arresting officers (along with other officers who surrounded him) for thinking it more important to target someone for simply cleaning up a park than to go after actual criminals.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/toronto_police_issue_more_tickets_to_freedom_rally_protesters Weekly Toronto Freedom Rally features man ticketed for cleaning the park] at Rebel News</ref> Another protester, who was handing out literature calling for the police to uphold the Charter (as they must swear to do as part of their duties) instead of following the arbitrary and unconstitutional diktats of Doug Ford, was also targeted and slapped with a dubious charge of "violating" Ford's stay-at-home orders.
*Toronto residents were interviewed by Rebel News regarding the imposition of CCP flu "vaccines" and "vaccine passports"; of the respondents, the majority said they preferred personal freedom and opposed government discrimination against people based on vaccination status, and half said they refuse to be injected with the "vaccines" out of safety concerns (such as negative side effects), while fewer than 10% said that they favored "vaccine passports".<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/should_government_require_vaccine_passports_torontonians_respond Should government require vaccine passports? Torontonians respond] at Rebel News</ref>
*Doug Ford recently announced yet another arbitrary extension of his unconstitutional CCP flu lockdowns against the province, which ended up drawing heavy criticism from the public.<ref>[https://twitter.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1392885926771240962 Rebel News: "Doug Ford announces the extensions of lockdowns for Ontarians"] at Twitter</ref>
*Rebel News reporter Efron Monsanto was unjustly fined for reporting on an anti-lockdown rally in Hamilton, as well as for recording the illegal actions (including assault without justification against innocent bystanders<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3Yo41KTlpc Hamilton police rough up bystander]</ref>) of corrupt Hamilton Police Service officers against peaceful protesters during the rally; when he attempted to question municipal officers Matthew Huber and Lee Rynar about why they thought illegal harassment and violence by corrupt officers against peaceful protesters was acceptable to them, Huber and Rynar refused to answer and hounded Monsanto out of Hamilton City Hall.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/rebel_reporter_fined_for_reporting_on_hamilton_freedom_rally Rebel reporter FINED for reporting on Hamilton Freedom Rally] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Toronto, Dana Cheetham, an employee and horse trainer at the Woodbine Racetrack, was unjustly fired from the track at the behest of its security guards because the guards refused to respect or honor her medical exemption from wearing face masks and had continually hounded her to put a mask on.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/woman_fired_from_job_exercising_racehorses_because_of_mask_exemption Woman fired from job exercising racehorses because of mask exemption] at Rebel News</ref> In addition to harassing Cheetham, the guards had also illegally threatened to fine her supervisor, Woodbine's assistant trainer, for allowing her to go maskless in respect of her exemption, and Woodbine is now apparently demanding that its employees get CCP flu "vaccines"; Cheetham has filed a complaint with the Ontario Human Rights Tribunal against Woodbine for not complying with her mask exemption and for unfair termination of employment.
*Rebel News criticized the decision by the Regional Municipality of Peel, west of Toronto, to push CCP flu "vaccines" on children and teens between ages 12-17 without parental consent.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/ezra_levant_show_may_21_2021 Why is the government pushing vaccines on children — without their parental consent?] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Hamilton, another anti-lockdown protest was disrupted by corrupt officers from the Hamilton Police Service, who illegally intimidated and fined the protesters despite their attempt to social distance, which illustrated that the police's actions are not about public health at all, but about intimidation of anyone attempting to justly stand up for their rights under the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/hamilton_freedom_rally_raided_by_police_everyone_in_attendance_fined Hamilton Freedom Rally RAIDED by police; everyone in attendance fined] at Rebel News</ref> Efron Monsanto, who covered the event for Rebel News, was again targeted and harassed by the corrupt cops when he filmed their illegal actions; he also noted the hypocrisy of the police in engaging in selective enforcement (always in favor of the Left) by allowing violent and anti-Semitic pro-"Palestine" marches (whose participants do not even social distance) to take place in Hamilton while disallowing peaceful anti-lockdown protests to take place.
*At an anti-lockdown protest in Cobourg, a female participant who had fled from her native Poland when it was under Communist rule spoke out against the Doug Ford-imposed lockdowns and offered insight based on her experiences as she compared what is now happening in Canada with the lockdowns with the actions of the then-ruling Communists in Poland; she added that the lockdowns are not about public health, but about power and control and the targeted destruction of the middle and working classes while using "public health" as a ruse, then said that Canadians must unite to oppose and defeat the lockdowns and those who impose and support them.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/communist_escapee_warns_on_lockdowns_unite_or_we_ll_all_go_down Communist escapee warns on lockdowns: Unite or “we'll all go down”] at Rebel News</ref>
*Patrick Phillips, a hospital emergency department physician practicing in St. Engelhart (a town north of Sudbury), has been voicing his opposition to the Doug Ford-imposed CCP flu lockdowns because of the harms such lockdowns have done to the residents of the town, which he has witnessed firsthand, and is now seeing the results of negative reactions (including delirium, numbness to one side of the body, heart conditions and [[vertigo]]) to CCP flu "vaccines" that had been administered to some residents; Phillips had filed reports on what he had witnessed, but all of his reports were rejected by Dr. Glenn Cornell, the acting medical health officer for the Timiskaming Health Unit in nearby New Liskeard, under claims that the reports "...do not meet criteria for (adverse events following immunization)", despite reactions to the "vaccines" being documented and reported first-hand by Phillips, who noted that the MHO's response to the reports (which Rebel News noted appears to be politically motivated) constitutes a major risk to public safety.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/emergency_dr_patrick_phillips_medical_officer_of_health_rejecting_covid_vaccine_adverse_reaction_reports Emergency dept. doc: They're rejecting my COVID vax adverse reaction reports] at Rebel News</ref> It is because of such reactions by the medical establishment, done for the purpose of maintaining the political narrative regarding the CCP flu pandemic, that Phillips and other similarly concerned doctors started the Declaration of Canadian Physicians for Science and Truth,<ref>[https://canadianphysicians.org/ Declaration of Canadian Physicians for Science and Truth website]</ref> the mandate of which is to continue putting their patients first, not the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario or any other authority (despite threats of sanctioning made by such authorities against physicians who oppose the official CCP flu narrative), and to uphold the [[Hippocratic Oath]].
*In North Bay, Stewart's Decorating, a home decor store owned by Alexandra Stewart, became a target of the Doug Ford regime when it defied the lockdown edicts forcing the closure of all its services except for curbside pickup, as well as not forcing Ford's mask mandate in the store as Stewart and an employee in the store are both hearing-impaired,<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/question_everything_we_need_to_read_research_home_decor_store_owner_on_lockdowns “Question everything. We need to read, research”: Home decor store owner on lockdowns] at Rebel News</ref> because Stewart pointed out that the imposed restrictions are causing more harm than good. Stewart was unjustly hit with a $750 lockdown ticket and criminal charges<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/criminal_charges_added_for_home_decor_store_trying_to_stay_open Criminal charges added for home decor store trying to stay open] at Rebel News</ref> for defying Ford's lockdown diktats, but with help from Rebel News, fought the ticket in court and has kept her store open.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/northern_ontario_home_decor_store_still_open_fighting_public_health_despite_summonses Northern Ontario home decor store still fighting public health to stay open despite summonses] at Rebel News</ref>
*In the town of Innisfil (south of Barrie), Samanthat Persaud, the owner of local dance studio High Vibrations, ran afoul of both the South Simcoe Police Service and local bylaw officers (acting on the word of "COVID Karens" who ratted her studio out to them), who charged Persaud under the so-called "Reopening Ontario Act" and issued a Section 22 violation against her for allegedly "violating" the lockdown edicts of the Doug Ford regime, which has claimed that facilities such as High Vibrations - which caters to the well-being of its clients and is very scrupulous in maintaining hygiene and sanitation standards - is "non-essential" while hypocritically allowing big box stores to remain open at full capacity.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/high_vibrations_studio_in_ontario_is_picking_up_lots_of_bad_vibes_from_police High Vibrations studio in Ontario picking up bad vibes from police] at Rebel News</ref>
*In the town of Bayfield, the Ontario Provincial Police engaged in CCP flu-triggered hysteria and overreaction when it sent six police SUVs to confront anti-lockdown protester Christina McMichael and her teenage daughter Meghan and hit then with two unjust $750 lockdown tickets in an act of intimidation against them in response to the mother and daughter protesting forced school closures due to the Doug Ford-imposed lockdowns in front of a closed school.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/opp_send_six_cruisers_to_mother_and_daughters_walking_protest OPP send SIX CRUISERS to mother & daughter's walking protest] at Rebel News</ref> The incident was filmed and posted on social media site [[TikTok]], where it received over a million views; while most who responded to the video were supportive of the McMichaels' stance against the lockdowns, a few pro-lockdown respondents instead spewed hate against them and some even cowardly resorted to death threats against them. The OPP's actions were criticized as a waste of police resources and for its justification of targeting minors, while the McMichaels plan to fight the fines against them in court.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/six_opp_cruisers_sent_to_ticket_lone_teen_protester_a_waste_of_police_resources Six OPP cruisers sent to ticket lone teen protester a waste of police resources] at Rebel News</ref>
*Dr. Byram Bridle, an associate professor of viral immunology at the University of Guelph, reported coming under harassment in his workplace for voicing legitimate concerns about the CCP flu "vaccines" during a recent press conference in Ottawa.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/doctor_who_shared_covid_vaccine_concerns_says_he_is_facing_workplace_harassment Doctor who shared COVID vaccine concerns says he is facing workplace harassment] at Rebel News</ref> Part of the harassment campaign against Dr. Bridle included targeting his parents via the illegal publication of their confidential medical records.
*In Peterborough, city police put its hypocrisy, double standards and partisan bias on display, in light of its targeting and harassment of anti-lockdown protesters with illegal fines for gathering to protest the CCP flu lockdowns they had imposed on them by Doug Ford, when they refused to do the same against the cast and crew of the CBC Television series ''Murdoch Mysteries'' as it was filming an episode in Peterborough despite the crew not observing lockdown protocols.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/peterborough_police_wont_ticket_cast_and_crew_of_cbc_show_for_handshakes_laughter Peterborough police won't ticket cast & crew of CBC show for handshakes, laughter] at Rebel News</ref> Several of the show's crew members obscenely mocked Rebel News reporter David Menzies and his cameraman when they were recognized by the crew on the shoot set; both the PPS and the CBC crew were later criticized for their double standards.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/viewers_react_cbc_show_breaks_covid_rules_cops_dont_care VIEWERS REACT: CBC show breaks COVID rules, cops don't care] at Rebel News</ref>
*Roy Anku, a basketball player with Ontario Tech University in Oshawa, was hit with an unjust $3,755 fine by Health Canada when he could not afford to stay in one of Justin Trudeau's "quarantine hotels" as a result of arbitrary rule changes made by Health Canada regarding age exemptions from hotel quarantining after he returned to Canada from a basketball trip to Alabama.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/quarantine_rule_change_sticks_university_basketball_player_with_3755_dollar_fine Quarantine rule change nets university basketball player $3,755 fine] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Sudbury, Shawn and Daphne Donaldson, the owners of local marijuana accessories store Mr. Greens Novelties, were successful in getting unjust fines, tickets and closure notices against them for defying the CCP flu lockdowns to keep their store open thrown out in court.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/mr_greens_novelties_april_20_covid_closure_order_tossed Mr. Greens Novelties' April 20 COVID closure order tossed] at Rebel News</ref> In the wake of their store being targeted, the Donaldsons became avid supporters of anti-lockdown protests and encouraged other local businesses to take a stand against the unconstitutional and illegal lockdowns.
*In the town of Mount Forest, a [[Mennonite]] community was illegally targeted with anti-Christian bigotry by Wellington-Dufferin-Guelph health officer Nicola Mercer when she ordered the closure of Old Order Mennonite churches and schools in the town using the lockdown edicts of Doug Ford as her justification.</ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/mennonite_churches_schools_singled_out_for_covid_closures_in_ontario Mennonite churches, schools singled out for COVID closures in Ontario] at Rebel News</ref> When Rebel News tried to obtain information regarding the targeting of the Mennonites, they were stonewalled by the Wellington-Dufferin-Guelph health authority, who demanded $3,402 to release the information.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/health_authorities_scapegoated_a_mennonite_community_help_us_find_out_why Health authorities scapegoated a Mennonite community — help us find out why] at Rebel News</ref>
*In the town of West Lincoln (near Hamilton), local mayor Dave Bylsma was unjustly targeted and ticketed by police at the behest of a few COVID Karens for attending an anti-lockdown protest and speaking out in support of local businesses against the CCP flu lockdowns.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/small_town_ontario_mayor_ticketed_for_speaking_at_anti-lockdown_rally Small town Ontario mayor ticketed for speaking at anti-lockdown rally] at Rebel News</ref> Bylsma will fight the ticket against him in court.
*Thorold city councillor David Jim Handley was illegally targeted with two lockdown tickets for attending an anti-lockdown protest in St. Catherines.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/city_councillor_handed_two_tickets_at_anti-lockdown_protest_in_st_catherines City councillor handed TWO tickets at anti-lockdown protest in St. Catherines] at Rebel News</ref>
*Retired Ontario Provincial Police officer Joe Jakubowski received a summons from the OPP detachment in Simcoe after attending and speaking at an anti-lockdown protest in the town, putting him at risk of illegal fines for speaking in favor of the rights and freedoms of the public against the CCP flu lockdowns.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/retired_police_sergeant_gets_court_summons_for_speaking_at_lockdown_protest Retired police sergeant gets court summons for speaking at lockdown protest] at Rebel News</ref>
*Doug Ford demanded that all Ontario Progressive Conservative MPPs get injected with CCP flu "vaccines" by August 19 or else be ejected from the party, following in the wake of Ontario Liberal Party leader Steven Del Duca likewise demanding that all of his MPPs get the "vaccines".<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/shock_ontario_pc_party_issues_ultimatum_to_unvaccinated_mpps EXCLUSIVE: Ontario PC Party issues ultimatum to unvaccinated MPPs, gives until Thursday to get COVID-19 vaccine]</ref> One MPP, Rick Nicholls, was subsequently expelled from the Ontario PC caucus for his refusal to take the "vaccine".<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/kicked_out_of_caucus_for_refusing_covid_vaccine_ontario_mpp_rick_nicholls_speaks_out INTERVIEW: Ontario MPP Rick Nicholls speaks out on ejection from Ontario PC Party caucus] at Rebel News</ref>
*In the town of Port Dover, mayor Kristal Chopp tried to get a motorcycle rally in the town canceled by using the CCP flu pandemic as her justification, but was unsuccessful as thousands of bikers defied her edict and arrived to hold the rally anyway.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/mayor_of_port_dover_ont_tries_to_cancel_motorcycle_rally_party_roars_on_anyway Mayor of Port Dover, Ont. tries to cancel motorcycle rally; party roars on anyway] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Bowmanville, local spa Boho Beauty Microblading and Spa became a victim of Doug Ford's lockdown edicts when it was forced to lay off staff and shut down for six months and lost business as a result; in addition, spa owner Jessica Downey was unjustly deplatformed from all of her social media accounts after getting reported by COVID Karens for speaking out against the lockdowns (which forced her and her husband to sell the family home to keep the spa afloat and reopen it),<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/take_the_fine_every_day_ontario_spa_owner_refuses_to_shut_down “I'll take the fine every day”: Ontario spa owner fighting for women in small business] at Rebel News</ref> then she began getting harassed with illegal and unjust fines of $100,000 per day by health bureaucrats for reopening her spa<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/spa_threatened_with_100_000_dollars_a_day_in_fines_boho_owner_says_microblading_safer_than_walmart Spa THREATENED with $100,000 a day in fines — Boho owner says microblading safer than WalMart] at Rebel News</ref> and online harassment and hate from those same COVID Karens seeking to destroy Downey's livelihood (resulting in most of her staff leaving due to the harassment and bullying) after she hosted an anti-lockdown rally, as well as harassment from police-accompanied health bureaucrats visiting her shop.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/spa_hit_with_dozens_of_covid_fines_summonses_forced_to_start_over_after_online_hate Spa hit with DOZENS of COVID fines, summonses forced to start over after online hate] at Rebel News</ref> Jenna Little, a paralegal assisting Downey, pointed out that there is no legal basis for the fines against Downey or her business.

===Quebec===
*In [[Montreal]], anti-CCP flu lockdown protesters who peacefully protested the imposed lockdowns, as well as Rebel News reporters and staff, were subjected to illegal harassment and Gestapo-style tactics by the city's [[Service de police de la Ville de Montréal|SPVM]] police force, who made arrests against the protesters and the reporters on false charges<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/montreal_protest_reporters_locals_swept_up_by_lockdown_enforcement MONTREAL PROTEST: Reporters, locals swept up by lockdown enforcement] at Rebel News</ref> and made [[anti-Semitism|anti-Semitic]] slurs against the Rebel News staff and threatened them with illegal fines<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/rebel_team_gets_6000_worth_of_tickets_in_montreal RAW FOOTAGE: Rebel team gets $6,000 worth of tickets in Montreal] at Rebel News</ref> for not wearing masks, even though media reporters are legally exempt from mask diktats.<ref>[https://twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1376304012308459527 Ezra Levant: "Something’s deeply wrong with Montreal’s @SPVM police. They arrest, handcuff & ticket our reporters, asking if we’re “Jews” or “Jew media”. They gave us $10,000+ in fines even though reporters are legally exempt from lockdowns] at Twitter</ref> The SPVM was also criticized for targeting children who took part in the anti-lockdown protests.<ref>[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsJJpqEdKXw DAILY | Montreal Cops VS Children, CBC Writes Up Rebel] at Rebel News YouTube channel</ref> Mocha Bezirgan, a Rebel News videographer, pointed out that the illegal arrests and fines imposed by the SPVM, along with their police brutality incidents, are not about the masks (as some of the SPVM officers were not wearing masks themselves), but about intimidation of those attempting to stand up for their rights and against unconstitutional diktats and illegal behavior by the diktats' enforcers.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/_of_course_its_not_about_masks_mocha_bezirgan_on_montreal_protest_arrests “Of course it's not about masks” | Mocha Bezirgan on Montreal protest arrests] at Rebel News</ref> In addition, the SPVM also came under fire for anti-Semitic targeting of Montreal's Hasidic Jewish community while using the pandemic as its justification for same.<ref>Multiple references:
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/police_in_montreal_gather_around_jewish_library_check_papers_issue_tickets_for_curfew_violations Police in Montreal gather around Jewish library to check papers, issue tickets for curfew violations] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/investigation_montreal_police_curfew_enforcement_on_hasidic_jewish_community INVESTIGATION: Montreal police curfew enforcement on Hasidic Jewish community] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/victory_covid_charges_against_orthodox_jewish_man_caught_in_montreal_synagogue_sweep_dropped VICTORY: COVID charges against Orthodox Jewish man caught in Montreal's synagogue sweep dropped] at Rebel News</ref>
*In [[Quebec City]], the Quebec City Police Service, like their RCMP, provincial and local counterparts elsewhere, went Gestapo on anti-face mask protesters who were targeted with illegal harassment and arrests for refusing to comply with face mask diktats and CCP flu lockdown orders.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/police_threaten_protesters_with_jail_at_quebec_city_anti_lockdown_protest Police threaten protesters with JAIL at Quebec City anti-lockdown protest] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Montreal, heavily-armed SPVM officers staged a warrantless raid on an Airbnb location and illegally arrested and falsely charged several Rebel News reporters, including David Menzies and Keean Bexte, who were in town to cover the anti-lockdown protests in the city; in addition to disregarding being told that their raid was illegal, the officers also falsely claimed that the hotel where the reporters were staying was a "crime scene", even though no crime had been committed.<ref>Multiple references:
*[https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/breaking-50-armed-police-raid-rebel-news-reporters-airbnb-arrest-illegal-gathering-videos/ BREAKING: 50 Armed Police Raid Rebel News Reporters Airbnb, Arrest Them for ‘Illegal Gathering’] at the Gateway Pundit
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/breaking_rebel_news_reporters_arrested_in_montreal_airbnb_raided BREAKING: Rebel News reporters arrested in Montreal, AirBnB raided by police] at Rebel News
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/lockdown_reports Update: Rebel News Face-off in Montreal] at Rebel News</ref> Rebel News head Ezra Levant, who had refused to let the SPVM go inside the hotel unwarranted (which led to the police force declaring it a "crime scene"), reported that the police raid on the hotel was vindictive revenge by the SPVM in response to Rebel News reporting on and publicizing the police force's misconduct (including incidents of assault and anti-Semitism by officers that were caught on-camera) and announced that there are plans to sue the SPVM for its illegal harassment of the Rebel News staff. Attempts by the SPVM to get warrants to search the hotel the Rebel News staff was staying at prior to the raid had been denied by numerous judges on the grounds that the hotel was not the location of an "illegal gathering", confirming the illegality of the SPVM's actions.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/what_happened_the_morning_after_the_montreal_police_raid_on_rebels_temporary_hq WATCH: What happened the morning after the Montreal police raid on Rebel’s temporary HQ] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Montreal, what had been a peaceful protest against CCP flu curfews soon devolved into a riot thanks to [[Antifa]] punks who infiltrated the group of legitimate protesters; the punks also engaged in vandalism against several small businesses and also attempted arson before the SPVM arrived to disperse the legitimate protesters.<ref>Two references:
*[https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/multiple-businesses-vandalized-anti-curfew-protest-montreal-turns-riot-video/ Multiple Businesses Vandalized After Anti-Curfew Protest in Montreal Turns Into Riot] at the Gateway Pundit ('''Warning:''' Contains videos with violence and foul language)
*[https://www.rebelnews.com/montreal_anti_curfew_protest_devolves_into_riot Montreal anti-curfew protest devolves into riot] at Rebel News ('''Warning:''' Contains video with violence and foul language)</ref>
*In Montreal, musician Arnaud Mwasangule was unjustly hit with a $450 fine for playing music outdoors in a local park in defiance of CCP flu lockdown edicts.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/musician_handed_450_dollar_covid_fine_for_playing_in_urban_montreal_park Musician handed $450 COVID fine for playing in urban Montreal park] at Rebel News</ref> Mwasangule will fight the fine against him in court.
*In Montreal, a small anti-lockdown protest began at a local park and traveled along city streets; this time, the SPVM, realizing that their recent behavior had come under public scrutiny and criticism and that they were being monitored by Rebel News, kept its officers in check as the protest was allowed to go without incident.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/cameras_help_keep_montreal_police_on_their_best_behaviour_during_molson_park_protest Cameras help keep Montreal police on their best behaviour during protest] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Quebec City, the owner of city restaurant La Cantina 10, identifying himself only as Niko, criticized the hypocrisy of Quebec's "conservative" Coalition Avenir Québec government in allowing indoor dining at the restaurants in the Montreal-Trudeau International Airport while other restaurant owners are forced to keep their businesses closed because of continued arbitrary extensions of the CCP flu lockdowns.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/quebec_restaurant_owner_reacts_to_airports_allowing_dine_in_while_his_doors_are_shut WATCH: Quebec restaurant owner reacts to airports allowing dine-in while his doors are shut] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Montreal, Firas Zahabi, a mixed martial arts trainer and the operator of Tristar Gym, reported that the SPVM had raided his gym 16 times despite his efforts to comply with CCP flu regulations, and that their confrontations with and harassment of Zahabi had become increasingly aggressive over time.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/theyve_been_here_16_times_montreal_police_harass_ufc_trainer_firas_zahabi “They've been here 16 times!”: Montreal police harass UFC Trainer Firas Zahabi] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Montreal, an estimated 100,000 protesters gathered at Olympic Stadium for a protest against the provincial CCP flu lockdown against citizens and small businesses, face mask diktats, the local 8:00 p.m. curfew, the threat of "vaccine passports" and the public's freedoms and livelihoods being illegally curbed by politicians, unelected health bureaucrats and the police, with even calls for Quebec's "conservative" premier François Legault to resign from his office being made; among the notable participants were Maxime Bernier and Chris Sky.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/estimated_100_000_montreal_protesters_rail_against_quebec_lockdown_policies_clamour_for_premier_legault_to_resign Estimated 100,000 Montreal protesters rail against Quebec lockdown, clamour for Premier to resign] at Rebel News</ref> Most of the protesters did not social distance or wear face masks at the event; the few who did did so to protect their identities against potential loss of employment due to retaliation by the "[[cancel culture]]" crowd. The local [[liberal media]] tried to disparage the protest by engaging in [[fake news]] smearing of the anti-lockdown protesters (including false accusations of violent confrontations with the SPVM after the protest event ended) while they ignored actual [[May Day]] violence, rioting and vandalism by Marxist anarchists occurring in the Jarry Park area of the city.
*After arbitrary extensions by the CAQ that extended what was originally supposed to be a "four week" post-sunset CCP flu curfew into five months, the unpopular curfew (which was enforced with heavy-handed policing, noted above) was finally ended; Rebel News reporter Yaakov Pollak noted that the curfew served no purpose at all, establishing only that corrupt politicians were using the curfew, under the cover of "public health", to illegally impose control over the public.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/the_quebec_curfew_is_finally_over The Quebec curfew is finally over!] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Sherbrooke, anti-lockdown protesters gathered in front of the local CBC/Radio-Canada studios to call for a public debate on the CCP flu and requirements for the CCP flu "vaccines".<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/cbc_radio_canada_protest_sherbrooke_quebec_legault_covid "We are here to tell them that we are free": Protesters rally outside CBC building in Sherbrooke, QC] at Rebel News</ref>
*François Legault's CCP flu lockdown edicts and "state of emergency" in the province were called into question in the wake of pandemic cases not increasing despite Stanley Cup playoff games between the [[Montreal Canadiens]] and the [[Vegas Golden Knights]] taking place at Montreal's Bell Centre at full capacity without face masks or social distancing.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/no_covid_spike_from_massive_maskless_montreal_canadiens_crowd_so_why_the_health_emergency No COVID spike from massive maskless Montreal Canadiens crowd, so why the health emergency?] at Rebel News</ref>
:*Legault later drew criticism from many Montrealers for his announcement of the imposition of a "vaccine passport" in Quebec, with the dissenters pointing out that his action is an illegal interference with the rights and freedoms of the public, likely to cause division within society, with some even calling for Legault's resignation.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/its_kind_of_scary_montrealers_react_to_potential_quebec_vaccine_passport “It's kind of scary”: Montrealers react to potential Quebec vaccine passport] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Montreal, over 2,000 people attended a rally to speak out against François Legault's proposed CCP flu "vaccine passport", calling it discrimination against those who have chosen not to get the CCP flu "vaccines".<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/discrimination_montreal_protesters_say_no_vax_pass “Discrimination”: Montreal protesters say no vax pass] at Rebel News</ref> When CBC reporters tried to cover the protest, they were surrounded and overwhelmed by the protesters, who pointed out that [[fake news|the liberal media (including the CBC) are corrupt]].
*In the town of Saint-Benoît-Labre (near Quebec City), an anti-lockdown event called the Festival des Gaulois was held; when local liberal media outlets engaged in their usual pearl-clutching over the event being held (claiming it would be a "superspreader event") and public health officials tried to crack down on the event in response, protesters responded with their own measure of revenge against the liberal media by spraying curbs near the event site with liquid manure and placing a dead skunk near where liberal media crews were camped out to keep reporters away.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/anti_covid_measures_festival_in_quebec_draws_superspreader_criticism_from_mainstream_media Anti-COVID measures festival in Quebec draws “superspreader” criticism from mainstream media] at Rebel News</ref>
*In Quebec City, two protests were held against the proposed "vaccine passport", with protesters also speaking out against Justin Trudeau's illegal proposal to prevent those not injected with the CCP flu "vaccines" from boarding trains and planes to travel and to make the "vaccines" mandatory, as well as about the 2021 federal election and how it would affect pandemic-related issues.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/thousand_march_during_protests_against_the_vaccine_passports_in_quebec Thousands march during protests against the vaccine passports in Quebec] at Rebel News</ref>

===Saskatchewan===
*In [[Saskatoon]], a protest and march was held in opposition to CCP flu pandemic restrictions.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/prairie_protesters_rally_against_covid_restrictions_in_saskatchewan Prairie protesters rally against COVID restrictions in Saskatchewan] at Rebel News</ref> Among the event's speakers was church pastor Tobias Tissen (mentioned above in Manitoba section).
*In Saskatoon, the Fellowship Baptist Church came under lockdown-motivated religious persecution when it was hit with an unjust $14,000 fine and several masking "tickets" for choosing God over government as it defied the province's CCP flu edicts regarding church building capacity by allowing anyone who chooses to worship with the congregation to come in, although the church voluntarily offers hand sanitizer and masks to those who choose to use them.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/saskatchewan_church_receives_14000_in_lockdown_fines_and_charges_for_holding_services Saskatchewan church receives $14,000 in lockdown fines and charges for holding services] at Rebel News</ref> The church's elders were also hit with illegal charges of "criminal obstruction" for refusing to allow police-escorted health bureaucrats to enter the church to disrupt worship services in violation of Criminal Code Section 176, while Fellowship Baptist Pastor Steve Flippin, who was quarantined along with his family in mid-March 2021 after his wife and a foster child came down with the CCP flu but whose quarantine was set to expire before Easter weekend, had his quarantine - and ''only'' his quarantine - capriciously extended past Easter by health bureaucrats for the sole purpose of keeping him away from the pulpit on that weekend, but Flippin defied the politically-motivated quarantine order to hold an outdoor worship service on Holy Saturday, at risk of again being targeted for persecution by the bureaucrats.
*In Prince Albert, the Full Gospel Outreach Centre, a church and mission which had been helping the homeless and impoverished in that city, had a $14,000 lockdown-related fine that had been unjustly imposed on it by the Saskatchewan Health Authority (at the behest of the city's leftist mayor Greg Dionne, who wants to seize the church building and have it demolished to redevelop its site, and Peter Ballantyne Cree Nation chief Peter Beatty) thrown out by the local Crown prosecutor in court.<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/breaking_victory_for_full_gospel_outreach_centre_after_prosecutor_tosses_14_000_no_mask_fine BREAKING: Victory for Full Gospel Outreach Centre after prosecutor tosses $14,000 no mask fine] at Rebel News</ref> The SHA imposed the fine after blaming the church for an outbreak of the CCP flu and falsely called it a "superspreader event", but it was later discovered that the outbreak had actually spread ''to'' the church from a local casino owned by the Saskatchewan Indian Gaming Authority; the SHA nevertheless ordered the church closed while hypocritically allowing the casino to remain open in acts of religious persecution and race pandering, resulting in many of the marginalized of Prince Albert losing access to their only lifeline.

===Yukon===
*Brendan Hanley, Yukon's chief public health officer, announced that minors who have not yet been given CCP flu "vaccines" may give their own consent for getting the shots (providing, under Yukon law, that said minors are capable of understanding and expressing their wishes), stating that "consent is based on capacity and not age";<ref>[https://www.rebelnews.com/yukon_minors_able_to_give_their_own_consent_covid_vaccine Minors "able to give their own consent" to take COVID vaccine: Yukon's top doc] at Rebel News</ref> Hanley's announcement drew near-universal condemnation on Twitter,<ref>[https://twitter.com/RebelNewsOnline/status/1400164776244875277 Rebel News: "Yukon's Chief Medical Officer stated that while 'parents are a very important part of this picture', minors who are capable of understanding and 'expressing' their wishes are 'able to give their own consent' for the COVID-19 vaccine] at Twitter ('''Warning:''' Contains some tweets with foul language)</ref> with many respondents indicating among the many responses that Hanley does not understand the definition of consent and that, based on lack of life experience, children - regardless of their capacity to understand (as claimed by those bureaucrats) or what the law says - cannot give informed consent for experimental and invasive medical procedures (which the "vaccine" injections, which have been established as dangerous based on multiple documented cases, are), called the procedures child abuse and medical malpractice, and were also critical of the unconstitutional overreach of health officials regarding both parental and children's rights; one respondent pointed out that governments can be held accountable for protecting the ability to decide what is best for the health of individuals and for the wellbeing of their children, while another equated giving minors the "right" to "consent" to experimental medical procedures with allowing them to go into bars to drink, and several more implied a [[slippery slope]] in indicating that if "consent" for said procedures can be given, it would open the way for allowing minors to "consent" to participate in potentially more sordid activities.

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== Special relativity and evidence ==
Many objects have been accelerated to velocities near the speed of light (in particle colliders) and it is easily observed that the rate at which those objects speed up as a constant force is applied is (very precisely) consistent with special relativity and not Gallilean relativity. That is, as their measured speed approaches the speed of light, that speed increases less and less in response to each "push" even though the "pushes" remain the same strength, thus apparently violating Newton's F = ma. On the other hand, Einstein's famous E = gamma * mc^2 appears to describe their rate of acceleration very accurately. I don't understand how this article proposes to surmount that objection. [[User:ZeroThree|ZeroThree]] 15:47, 28 October 2012 (EDT)

:What about all the evidence for Maxwell's equations, including electromagnets and radio waves, and all the everyday inventions that demonstrate that these things are real? Maxwell's equations contradict classical physics, and relativity was developed specifically to make Maxwell's equations valid in all reference frames. This includes not only the issue of a constant speed of light, but also magnetic fields arising from "moving" charges, where motion is defined in terms of each observer. Indeed, special relativity can be derived directly from Maxwell's equations. Any confirmation of Maxwell's equations is consistent with relativity and not with Galilean relativity. [[User:NgSmith|NgSmith]] Fri Jan 31 13:29:34 EST 2020

== Mass depending on direction ==

The article states:
:''There is a logical difficulty, however, to an increase in relativistic mass. Such increase would only exist in the direction of motion, and the rest mass would remain intact with respect to a force applied in a direction orthogonal to velocity. Neither mass nor energy is a vector, and the notion of the mass of an object having different values depending on the direction of an applied force is illogical.''

As [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] on 8 July 2007 (EDT): ''This paragraph is nonsense [..] The relativistic mass applies no matter what the direction of the force is.''

[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:45, 10 January 2012 (EST)

== Neutrinos now obey speed limit ==

The observation sited in the first sentence of this article has been discredited. [http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2012/02/official-word-on-superluminal-ne.html?ref=hp] It appears that a loose fiber-optics cable is to blame for the misreadings. I suggest editing this first sentence, and any other mention of this in the article.--[[User:CarloP|CarloP]] 18:51, 2 March 2012 (EST)

:Issues concerning the neutrino experiment are not yet fully resolved. No problam: I replaced it with another counterexample.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:12, 2 March 2012 (EST)

== Why does Conservapedia seek to discredit Relativity ==

Can someone explain why Conservapedia is so opposed to the Theory of Relativity?

Is there some philosophical or conservative/liberal basis for this opposition? [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 18:32, 5 April 2012 (EDT)

:''Conservapedia'' seeks the truth, not merely what the [[lamestream media]] claim is the truth. Moreover, once one accepts a logical fallacy, then anything false can be proven from it.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:34, 5 April 2012 (EDT)
:: Ahh.... But the fact that the conclusion is false does not necessarily render the basis false. I could say "Andy Schlafly founded Conservapedia and therefore I am a pig monkey." I am not a pig monkey, and even if I were, that has nothing to do with you founding this website. But you still did. [[User:Gregkochuconn|Gregkochuconn]] 09:58, 9 April 2012 (EDT)

:When looking around the internet, it is obvious that Conservapedia's classification of relativity as [[pseudoscience]] is a source of some amusement and contempt. Aschlafly, could you please answer the two questions I raised above? [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 11:27, 9 April 2012 (EDT)

::Roland, liberal peer pressure from "around the internet" does not illuminate the truth. If what liberals on the internet said made a dime's bit of difference, then the [[Bible]] would not be the best selling book (by far) and the percentage of people who are [[conservative]] would not be growing (as it does).

::"Can someone explain why Conservapedia is so opposed to the Theory of Relativity?" Because it's false, it confuses people, it misleads people into stop reading the Bible, and its orthodoxy interferes with the advancement of science for the benefit of all. Other than that, it's not a bad theory!

::"Is there some philosophical or conservative/liberal basis for this opposition?" The only bias is by liberals who shout down any criticism of the theory. If the theory were so clearly true, then there would be no need for some liberals to rely on [[censorship]] in propping it up.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:10, 9 April 2012 (EDT)

== GPS and Relativity ==

I note that anyone using a GPS is relying on the Theory of Relativity being true, since calculations derived from Relativity are used within a GPS. [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 18:32, 5 April 2012 (EDT)

:GPS does '''''not''''' rely on the [[Theory of Relativity]], and this has been thoroughly explained on this site.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:34, 5 April 2012 (EDT)

::Hi Aschlafly, I've located at least some of the discussion re GPS in the archives of this talk page, and there a lot of references for me to examine before I can make any further serious comments; certainly there are some references which appear to state that GPS relies on relativity. Can you perhaps draw my attention to what you consider the most important (half-dozen or so) references which indicate that the GPS system does NOT rely on relativity so that I have somewhere to start from? In the meantime I'll continue editing and improving less controversial articles as I have been doing for the last two months (my talk page lists nearly 40 articles I can usefully contribute to). [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 14:17, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

:::This note 7 is on [[Counterexamples to Relativity]]:

::::Contrary to the claims of Relativists, the GPS system has never been based on Relativity. The Time Service Department, U.S. Navy, observed that "The Operational Control System (OCS) of the Global Positioning System (GPS) does not include the rigorous transformations between coordinate systems that Einstein’s general theory of relativity would seem to require" in part because "the effects of relativity, where they are different from the effects predicted by classical mechanics and electromagnetic theory, are too small to matter – less than one centimeter, for users on or near the earth.”

:::The Theory of Relativity does not even assert that it would require significant adjustments to GPS timing: the small effects claimed by the special and general theories nearly cancel each other out for orbiting satellites. From an engineering perspective, it makes far more sense simply to adjust the clocks using synchronization rather than relying on (dubious) theoretical claims.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 14:36, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

Another false claim because of sloppy reading: In the same source by The Time Service Department, U.S. Navy, you can find how the authors Fliegel and DiEsposti describe what is happening to the clocks in the satellites:
''Since GPS receivers work in the time and not in the frequency domain, they handle the velocity, gravity, and acceleration shifts differently than described above. First, each GPS space vehicle (SV) clock is offset from its nominal rate by about -4.45 × 10-10 (= -38 microseconds per day) to allow for the relativistic offsets between the differences between the SV and the ground. Of this -38 microseconds per day, about -45 are due to the gravitational potential difference between the SV at its mean distance and the earth's surface, and +7 to the mean SV speed, which is about 3.87 km/sec. (p. 193).

The text is about the necessity of ''further'' corrections by the ''operational control system'' - there are corrections ''already'' installed in the clocks!

''The Theory of Relativity does not even assert that it would require significant adjustments to GPS timing:'' This sentence is wrong. It has shown to be wrong a couple of times, so it starts to become a lie. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 15:12, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

:The [[Theory of Relativity]] was not used to develop GPS, nor would it be sensible to waste time and money doing so. Synchronization is cheaper, simpler, and more reliable. The above quote does not contradict this obvious truth.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:32, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

::The fact that these offsets are implemented in the clocks '''in accord with the theory of relativity''' as you can read in the very source you quoted shows that the [[Theory of Relativity]] is used in the GPS - and this from the very beginning of the project! Please, start to read your sources - completely! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:37, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

Please, before we get into any more debate, could someone supply some actual references (not quotes from) which state that relativity is not used in GPS? [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 16:41, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

:Aschlafly took his quote from [http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/1996/Vol%2028_16.pdf GPS and Relativity: An Engineering Overview] by Henry F. Fliegel and Raymond S. DiEsposti (though he probably isn't aware of this). The paper is about relativistic effects due to moving GPS-'''''receivers''''' (or GPS-receivers in high altitudes) and comes to the conclusion, that at the moment, they don't have to include additional relativistic corrections.

:Aschlafly interprets this as if ''no'' relativistic corrections are implemented in the GPS.
:However, in the paper itself, you will find the section I quoted above, where the authors describe such very corrections within the clocks of the satellites.
:I'm afraid that Aschlafly won't come up with ''some actual references (not quotes from) which state that relativity is not used in GPS'' as there aren't any.
:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 16:53, 6 April 2012 (EDT)

Folks, the burden of proof is on anyone who claims that the [[Theory of Relativity]] was used to design GPS. That burden includes describing who, when, where, how, and why. It didn't happen. And if it did, the person who wasted time and money on such a frivolous approach should explain the mistake, because engineers can simply synchronize the clocks far more accurately than the theory ever could.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:15, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

:It looks to me as if you are trying to put impossible conditions prior to any debate. To avoid a lengthy debate all you have to do is produce some actual references which support your point of view. Is this too much to ask?

:If it didn't happen then you should be able to produce some evidence of this, so '''some actual references please'''. The only 'evidence' you have produced so far is an out-of-context quote from a paper which is concerned primarily with GPS receivers (that same paper mentions the use of relativity-related adjustments to the clocks on the GPS satellite transmitters). Surely you must have more than this. Will you accept evidence from engineers and companies involved in designing and building the GPS system? If not, why not? Who would you accept evidence from? The US Department of Defense? Do you seriously expect a member of the public to be able to access internal design documents as your "who, when, where, how, and why" statement implies?

:If you care to check my contribution history you will see that I am actively contributing non-controversial information to articles. This discussion re GPS etc. is only a small part of my activities on Conservapedia. Since I've barely started on considering and consolidating what evidence there is re GPS I would rather have a week or so to look at the evidence before getting into a debate. This should give you ample time to come up with some references to support the separation of GPS and relativity. Simple searches via Google turn up numerous instances where relativity is claimed to be relevant to GPS, but I can't find anything to the contrary and '''I need your help to do so'''. I would really like to see evidence from '''both sides''' of the discussion before entering the debate, so '''some actual references please'''. [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 19:15, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

::Roland, you're requesting proof that something didn't happen. Moreover, someone with an engineering background (such as myself) would not expect it to have happened. It is like asking for a reference that no green cheese was found on the Moon. No such scientific reference is likely to exist, nor would anyone expect such a reference to exist.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:28, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

:: Every single article on GPS says that relativistic adjustments are made to the satellite clocks. Some give the formulas and some give quantitative data on the adjustments. Textbooks explain why the adjustments are necessary. I don't see any reason to doubt that GPS uses relativistic adjustments. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 20:52, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

:::GPS does make synchronizing adjustments. Call them whatever you like, but those adjustments are not made based on predictions by the [[Theory of Relativity]]. Indeed, it would be a silly waste of time and money to synchronize in such a manner.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:07, 8 April 2012 (EDT)
:::: Unless you drive the flying Delorean from ''Back to the Future'', relativity would say that its effect on your car when you're driving at normal speeds is so small it need not be accounting for. The normal error for GPS (about 40 feet) is many magnitudes higher than the error relativity would cause. Now, the GPS in the Flying DeLorean would be another issue. But until that's invented, let's not worry about it, ok? Of course, if you were orienteering, your speed would be even slower than if you were driving. Indeed, if you were moving at any normal speed (even a supersonic jet), relativity would be incredibly small (assuming that it exists as scientists explain it). [[User:Gregkochuconn|Gregkochuconn]] 22:14, 8 April 2012 (EDT)

:::::''GPS does make synchronizing adjustments'' Not only simple synchronizing: read the specifications for the GPS, read the sources ''in full'' which you are quoting, and you will see that all these engineers and scientists don't give a damn that you think that they are wasting ''time and money''.
:::::Aschlafly, your position is only tenable as you are willing to ignore most of the data which is presented to you. [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 03:12, 9 April 2012 (EDT)

::Aschlafly, please correct me if I am misunderstanding you, but it seems to me that you believe very firmly that relativity has nothing to do with GPS, even though you are unwilling to present any evidence to support this belief, and wish to put severe restrictions on what 'proof' of the relationship other folks may present. I raised some five questions above as to what sort of evidence you might consider. Could you please answer these questions.

::I'd like to ask Mr. Schafly if he could explain what the clock adjustments on GPS satellites are for, the article is not clear, and neither is anything on this talk page.--[[User:Cahnkj|Cahnkj]] 00:44, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

:::Cahnkj, herewith a summary of the clock-adjustment situation as I (RolandPlankton) see it. Newton's equations of motions say nothing about how clocks keep time. Einstein's equations of relativity imply that identical clocks will vary in their timekeeping (tick at different rates) if they are travelling at different speeds, or if they are at different heights in a gravitational field, or if they are subject to different accelerations; see [http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/1996/Vol%2028_16.pdf GPS and Relativity: An Engineering Overview]. Now the satellites used in the GPS system require very accurate clocks which are in step with ground-based clocks. The paper just quoted provides the various relativistic equations which apply - the satellites are travelling faster than a ground-based receiver, and are at a different height in a gravitational field. Prior to launch the clocks in the GPS satellites are deliberately set to a different tick rate from ground-based clocks, so that when they are in orbit the clocks will appear to tick at the same rate; the difference in tick rates is about 38 nanoseconds per day, and this adjustment can be calculated from the relevant relativistic equations.

:::But the problem is that Aschlafly rejects the Theory of Relativity, and hence rejects any calculation based on that. The only serious argument he has put forth on this current talk page (see preceding section) is an appeal to [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:The_Truth the truth]; the quote he provides above is also demolished above. You may wish to consult [[Counterexamples to Relativity]], which is rebutted point by point in [[Essay:Rebuttal to Counterexamples to Relativity]].

:::Hope this doesn't add too much to the confusion. [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 12:07, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

::::Mr. Schlafly states above that "the burden of proof is on anyone who claims that the Theory of Relativity was used to design GPS." (This is a fair requirement, and it seems as this has been done when AugustO referred to the Fliegel and DiEsposti paper above.)

::::But really, isn't the burden of proof on anyone who claims ''anything'' on this site, since Conservapedia Commandment #1 states that "everything you post must be true and verifiable" and Commandment #2 states that users should "always cite and give credit to <nowiki>[their]</nowiki> sources?" --[[User:AndreaM|AndreaM]] 19:03, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

:::::Good point. Anyone who asserts ''on this site'' that GPS was designed based on the [[Theory of Relativity]] needs to prove the claim. Note that the claim is implausible because it is cheaper, easier, and more precise to synchronize GPS based on observations rather than theoretical speculation. Also note that no [[Nobel Prize]] has been given for verification of the [[Theory of Relativity]] with GPS.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:55, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

::::::Whether GPS was designed based on Relativity or not may be irrelevant. Whether or not Relativity is necessary for the clocks to run efficiently and accurately, also irrelevant. Observations of the satellites are still consistent with the predictions of General and Special Relativity as evidenced here: http://www.metaresearch.org/cosmology/gps-relativity.asp. Please not that this is an article by the same Tom Van Flandern quoted on this site as saying that relativity is unnecessary for GPS calculations, so I trust this is a source you will accept. Here he is saying here that while relativity may be UNNECESSARY for those calculations, it is still CONFIRMED by our observations.[[User:Williagz|Gus Williams]] 14:03, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

===A Separate Question for Mr. Schlafly About References===

::Aschlafly, as a separate issue, in view of of your apparent attitude to references, could I ask you to have a look at the articles I have been working on over the last two months: [[Pi]], [[Programming language]], [[Compiler]], and the work-in-progress [[Chomsky hierarchy]]. Obviously I'm only asking you to consider the changes I have made. In particular, can you check if the references are acceptable to you, and can you also check that the general style and level of writing is in accordance with Conservapedia's aims? The next article I intend to turn my intention to is [[Context-Free Grammar]], since it seems to me that this fails to satisfy [[Conservapedia:Guidelines#Style]] "Articles on complex topics need an introduction which assumes little or no previous knowledge". [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 11:03, 9 April 2012 (EDT)

:::Roland, your good edits are appreciated and I've seen no complaints about them. I agree that the [[Context-Free Grammar]] would benefit from a better introduction and look forward to reading what you add there.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 17:39, 9 April 2012 (EDT)

===READ THE MANUAL===
This debate seems pretty ridiculous, given that GPS is a public system with open specifications. If you're building a GPS receiver you do, in fact, need to compensate for relativistic effects. The correction equations that must be used on the receiving side equipment are given in the official GPS interface specification, IS-GPS-200G [http://www.gps.gov/technical/icwg/IS-GPS-200G.pdf], p.92. section 20.3.3.3.3.1: User Algorithm for SV Clock Correction.

<blockquote>
The polynomial defined in the
following allows the user to determine the effective SV PRN code phase offset referenced to the
phase center of the antennas with respect to GPS system time (t) at the time of data
transmission. The coefficients transmitted in subframe 1 describe the offset apparent to the two frequency
user for the interval of time in which the parameters are transmitted. This estimated
correction accounts for the deterministic SV clock error characteristics of bias, drift and aging, as
well as for the SV implementation characteristics of group delay bias and mean differential
group delay. '''Since these coefficients do not include corrections for relativistic effects, the user's equipment must determine the requisite relativistic correction. Accordingly, the offset given below includes a term to perform this function'''...
</blockquote>
I did not include the equations here, but they're given in the manual. --[[User:Smac56|Smac56]] 16:54, 7 December 2014 (EST)

== Why are adjustments needed to GPS? ==

A good question was raised above: if synchronization to GPS is not due to the [[Theory of Relativity]], then what is it due to?

And the answer is simply this: [[quantum mechanics]]. There are fundamental uncertainties, and those uncertainties will lead to clock differences. Otherwise a [[perpetual motion machine]] would be possible. It isn't.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 22:50, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

Where to start with this. This is so bad it isn't even wrong. Could I respectfully suggest that you confine your efforts to areas you understand at least a little bit.

The impossibility of perpetual motion has nothing to do with quantum mechanics. It comes from the 2nd and 3rd laws of thermodynamics and predates quantum mechanics by at least 100 years.

The uncertainty principle is also completely irrelevant. If we imagine a 100 kg satellite moving at a velocity of approximately 100 km/s (this is three times the earth's velocity , so is a plausible and easy to handle number). If we know the satelites location to an uncertainty of 1cm then the uncertainty on its velocity implied by the uncertainty principle is 1 part in 10^39 (i.e. completely negligable).[[User:Jloveday|Jloveday]] 13:10, 14 April 2012 (EDT)

:Well, this is progress indeed. Could you please provide references to support the contention that the synchronization is required as a result of quantum mechanical effects?

:Also, as an aside, how do you say that fundamental uncertainties described by quantum mechanics relate to the impossibility of a perpetual motion machine? Not sure I follow you there. --[[User:JeromeKJ|JeromeKJ]] 23:36, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

::It's basic logic. Unless someone denies [[quantum mechanics]] and the fundamental uncertainties it describes -- and many [[Relativists]] do deny it -- then synchronization will be required as a logical result.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 23:58, 11 April 2012 (EDT)

:::Do you have any references? --[[User:JeromeKJ|JeromeKJ]] 00:04, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

::::I haven't looked ... nor is it necessary to. I wouldn't look for references to confirm any logical statement.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:14, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

:::::Really? Is it fair to say then that this contention that the synchronization is required as a result of quantum mechanical effects is not something that you have read about but rather something that you yourself concluded from your own knowledge of quantum mechanics and GPS systems? --[[User:JeromeKJ|JeromeKJ]] 00:21, 12 April 2012 (EDT)
:::::P.S. As a result of this discussion I found a couple of articles which appear to confirm that GPS satellites have their clocks adjusted by about 38,000 nanoseconds per day before launch in compliance with relitavistic predictions (both Special and General Relativity are taken into account). The articles are [http://metaresearch.org/cosmology/gps-relativity.asp here] and [http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html here]. Is there really any question that this is what is happening? I would think that if these sources are to be questioned that some sort of reference should be provided. A mere assertion that the adjustments are as a result of quantum mechanical effects and that it is a matter of logic would not usually be enough for any serious encyclopedia. --[[User:JeromeKJ|JeromeKJ]] 00:53, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

::::::The references are [[hearsay]]. Logic is far more compelling, more efficient, and more likely to lead to the correct result.

::::::To take the analogy mentioned above, if you agree that [[perpetual motion machines]] are impossible, what is the reason?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 01:45, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

:Quantum mechanics gives a probabilistic model of phenomena. Indeed, the page you linked for quantum mechanics states:
::"If we measure such an observable, generally the wave function does not predict exactly which value we will obtain. Instead, the wave function gives us the probability that a certain value will be obtained."
:If this is the case, that means that Quantum mechanical phenomena are ''unpredictable''. How is it that clock adjustments can be made based on unpredictable events, ie, probabilities?
:I'd also like to know how the GPS system is affected by these phenomena.
:--[[User:Cahnkj|Cahnkj]] 01:51, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

Logic is a nice thing. But engineers like to calculate. So could you give us a Ballpark estimate for the quantum mechanic effects which come into play here? [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 01:59, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

:(Edit conflict x2) Andy, as a lawyer I can assure you that hearsay is a [[legal]] concept which is of little use in this sort of scientific discussion. Whilst I understand that non-legally trained people sometimes confuse the nature and applicability of the concept, I can confirm that it has no relevance here.

:The difficulty here arises from your wanting to assert the truth of a matter without providing either references or even the basis for you own logic. Just saying "quantum mechanics" is hardly enlightening. Do you deny that GPS satellite clocks are adjusted by approximately 38,000 nanoseconds as referred to in the references that I provided? If not, do you say that there is a quantum calculation that accounts for that adjustment? What is that quantum calculation and what is it based on? I am really having difficulty in understanding the basis for all of this. --[[User:JeromeKJ|JeromeKJ]] 02:03, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

:Aschlafly, this reference [http://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti/1996/Vol%2028_16.pdf GPS and Relativity: An Engineering Overview] has been pointed out to you several times already. Since it is published by folks actually working on the GPS system, I hardly think that it qualifies as 'hearsay'. It contains all the relevant relativistic equations, which are not really that complicated, and derives the 38 nanosecond figure quoted above. An assertion on scientific matters without any evidence can't really be taken seriously. Can we please see the quantum mechanical equations and calculations which come up with the same or similar result? [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 09:49, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

:Aschlafly, I'm inclined to suspect that your disbelief in relativity is so strong that you are unwilling to consider any evidence which might indicate that relativity could be correct, and are hence flailing around looking for some other explanation as to what actually happens (GPS clock adjustment by 38 ns). Would you care to comment on my suspicion? [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 09:49, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

Quote: "A logical statement is a declarative sentence that is either true or false." [http://www.ontotext.com/factforge/logical-statement].

So Aschlafly, why don't you need a reference to confirm a logical statement? Just because a statement is logical doesn't mean that it is true. [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 16:53, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

: It would be helpful to have a more modern reference. GPS switched to a system of daily updates to the satellites. Maybe those relativistic formulas cause errors that require daily clock synchronizations to correct. Not likely. But to prove the point we ought to find a reference that says that the satellites still use the 38 ns/day relativistic adjustments, and that the daily corrections are much smaller than that. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 17:18, 12 April 2012 (EDT)
::The best I've found so far is [http://www.ipgp.jussieu.fr/~tarantola/Files/Professional/GPS/Neil_Ashby_Relativity_GPS.pdf] from Physics Today, May 2002. This confirms the initial adjustment and mentions further on page 7: "Additional small frequency offsets arise from clock drift, environmental changes, and other unavoidable effects such as the inability to launch the satellite into an orbit with precisely the desired semimajor axis. The satellite clock frequencies are adjusted so that they remain as close as possible to the frequency of the Naval Observatory's clock ensemble." Unfortunately it doesn't give the actual size of the adjustments, thought the word 'small' does indicate it as being much less than the initial adjustment. I rather like the last sentence of this paper: "Ordinary users of the GPS, though they may not need to be aware of it, have thus become dependent on Einstein's conception of space and time." [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 18:26, 12 April 2012 (EDT)

:::The lack of evidence, amid so much political pressure to prove it, is indicative that no proof can be found. Notice how no [[Nobel Prize]]s have been given for GPS confirming the [[Theory of Relativity]]?--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:01, 12 April 2012 (EDT)
:::If you want to use the [[Nobel Prize]] as evidence against relativity, might I direct you to:
:::http://www.nobelprize.org/educational/physics/relativity/
:::Where the official Nobel Prize website discusses various experiments related to relativity, and the relevant [[Nobel Prize]]s awarded for them.
:::--[[User:Cahnkj|Cahnkj]] 00:32, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

::::GPS is not even on that overly broad list.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 00:43, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

::Aschlafly, I've tried to confine my evidence to items which not even you can claim as 'hearsay'. A simple Google search turns up hundreds of references linking GPS and relativity, but in view of your earlier dismissal of such as hearsay, I thought I'd better stick to indisputable items. At least there is some fairly convincing evidence linking GPS with relativity (including all the relevant equations and the result of applying these equations), unlike your assertion linking GPS with quantum mechanics, where you have produced precisely zero evidence. You still haven't responded to my comments and question re 'logical statements' above. So, where is the evidence for your assertion? [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 02:46, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

:::There is no credible evidence that the [[Theory of Relativity]] had anything to do with the development of GPS. In addition, not even the pro-Relativity [[Nobel Prize]] [[liberals]] say that GPS proves the theory.

:::My comment about [[quantum mechanics]] was in response to a question about why synchronization is needed. Unless someone thinks that [[perpetual motion machines]] are possible (have you answered my question about that?), then synchronization will be needed.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 11:00, 13 April 2012 (EDT)
::::Could you please clarify what the connection between synchronisation, quantum mechanics and perpetual motion machines is? From what I've learned, clock synchronisation between the satellites is necessary because any signal between them travels at a finite speed, namely the speed of light. Do you deny that? The claim is that in order to compute the signal travel time and thus to synchronize the clocks correctly, the relative velocities and the differences in gravitational potential due to the different altitudes of the satellites (and Earth's surface) have to be taken into account. Do you think that is wrong? --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 11:56, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

Lets stick to the subject (GPS and relativity); perpetual motion is a complete red herring, and I'm not sure how Nobel prizes come into the picture (we're debating science, not prizes).
On the basis of '''actual evidence produced''' in this discussion so far, I think that we can confidently state four facts:
#Prior to launch, the clock in a GPS satellite is set to run about 38 nanoseconds/day different from an otherwise identical clock on the earth's surface.
#When in orbit the GPS clock then appears to tick at the same rate as an identical clock on the earth's surface.
#Equations based on the theory of relativity accurately come up with this figure of around 38 nanoseconds.
#No evidence has been produced to show how quantum mechanics is involved.

If anyone disagrees with any of the above, they need to bear in mind ('''emphasis''' added):
:from Conservapedia:Commandments 1 Everything you post must be true and '''verifiable'''.
:from Conservapedia:Commandments 2 '''Always cite''' and give credit to your sources.
:from Conservapedia:Guidelines/Reliability 4 A major difference between Liberalism and Conservatism is how much each group is willing to have its pronouncements checked, its actions reviewed and evaluated.

Hope this summary helps. [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 14:41, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

: That is the story as I have heard it. Except that I heard that the 38 ns/day adjustment was remotely switchable, because of relativity skeptics who did not believe that it would be necessary. I also don't agree that GPS is "dependent on Einstein's conception of space and time." The GPS system has the ability to measure the daily adjustments that it needs. So even with any relativity theory or Einstein conception, it could just make those 38 ns/day adjustments and GPS would have all the accuracy it has today. [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]] 15:19, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

::In the summary I was careful to stick to facts supported by evidence, and to avoid saying "GPS is dependent on Einstein's conception of space and time", even though the two main references I have quoted do in fact say this. All I said was that the adjustment calculated according to relativity agrees with the actual adjustment, from which one might reasonably conclude, in this instance at least, that relativity is consistent with reality. [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 15:44, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

::I note that no one has proposed any credible alternative theory as to why the orbiting clocks tick at a different speed from surface clocks, so until some better theory comes along I'm quite happy to stick with relativity. [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 16:00, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

:In the last week, apart from one clarification question from [[User:RSchlafly|RSchlafly]], no one has challenged the 'four facts' summary I provided above. According I will shortly move a copy of this summary along with the relevant references in to the talk pages of other relevant articles, and will then update those articles to match. [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 13:36, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

::Beware: in your fact #1, the correction is 38 '''micro'''seconds, not '''nano'''seconds. See [http://www.astronomy.ohio-state.edu/~pogge/Ast162/Unit5/gps.html]. My own rough calculations also agree that it's microseconds. [[User:JudyJ|JudyJ]] 15:05, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

::Well spotted, Judy. I've gone back to one of the sources and it is indeed 38 microseconds. Thank you for the correction. [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 16:10, 21 April 2012 (EDT)
All right, can Andy Schlafly explain how adjusting the exponent in the law of gravity accounts for the orbits of the other planets? You know the reason why no one considers that as an alternative? Are you ready?! '''Because it doesn't work!''' And can you tell me why Einstein came up with GR? Was it to explain the orbit of Mercury? [[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 21:36, 28 April 2012 (EDT)

:::In response to your first question, the reason is purely political. Any grad student who suggests that tweaking the exponent in Newtonian mechanics is an interesting approach worth more attention will thereby eliminate his chances for obtaining a PhD.

:::In response to your second point, GR was tweaked to explain the Mercury perihelion precession, but now the more precisely observed data fail to match the theory. Grad students and Nobel Prize wannabes are clever enough to keep quiet about it now.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 21:56, 28 April 2012 (EDT)

Andy: You make an interesting point about people not thinking that the Newcomb/Hall theory of planetary precession is an interesting approach—I hadn't thought about that aversion. I'm not sure why you think that people who take an interest in that theory would eliminate their chances of getting a PhD—people take an interest in historical aspects of science all the time. I can think of a few discarded scientific theories that are commonly discussed in science classes: The Ptolemaic theory of the solar system, the "plum pudding" model of the atom, and the phlogiston theory of combustion come to mind. The first two are very commonly taught in science classes. I think this is because they do a very good job of illustrating the scientific method and the value of careful analytical thinking. The phlogiston theory also illustrates careful thinking, but it isn't discussed in science classes nearly as much. My guess is that this is because it's harder to visualize. You can easily make a diagram in a textbook of the epicycles of Ptolemy and the ellipses of Kepler. And the model of electrons circling the nucleus, as per the Rutherford atom, is pretty much the logo for all things atomic. Lavoisier's (and others') experiments with combustion don't make for as dramatic an illustration.

The Simon Newcomb / Asaph Hall theory of planetary precession, unfortunately, seems to be even less photogenic. The effect being explained, 43 arcseconds per century, may be hard to get sudents excited about. But I doubt whether anyone jeopardizes their academic or research careers by being interested in it.

Idea: How about if I write some articles about the 4 theories (Ptolemy/Kepler, pudding/Rutherford, phlogiston/oxidation, and Newcomb/Einstein)? We could create a category for discarded scientific theories.

But I won't get to it any time soon. I'm very busy at Ameriwiki.

By the way, I have to thank you for the "E=mc^2" article. It really sharpened my thinking about the issues involved in special relativity, and it contributed to the outline of the articles I'm writing at Ameriwiki.

[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 22:40, 2 May 2012 (EDT)

::: Ugh, the reasons GPS devices don't contain the "rigorous transformations" that relativity "would seem to require" is very simple. The satellites are in geosynchronous orbits, and the difference in time that relativity causes only need to be calculated once. From then on, it's simply a case of adding a few ns every day to the satellite clocks to account for this. I would've thought that was obvious to an expert. And only an expert should be attempting to write authoratively on the theory of relativity! A certificate in physics does not an expert make. [[User:LucoDaw|LucoDaw]] 15:09, 11 July 2012 (EDT)

== Logic and the GPS ==

*Atomic watches work on the Earth quite fine
*[[Quantum mechanics]] describe the physics of ''very small length and energy scales''
*Satellites are macroscopic objects.
*Even a precision of 1cm on the surface of the Earth isn't a very small length.

So which kind of logic tells us that quantum mechanical effects influence the synchronization of the clocks? Why are not only the scientists involved lying, but also their calculations?

For me it seems to be a logical conclusion that you, Aschlafly, are even more knowledgeable of Greek than of Science! [[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:21, 12 April 2012 (EDT)
:He's trying to apply the Heisenburg Uncertainty principle to satellites? Are you kidding me? That principle is used for things at the ATOMIC LEVEL! Using ANYTHING with regards to quantum mechanics in an argument about satellites is absurdism and/or ignorance of the subject matter! Seriously Andy, I know you hate the Theory of Relativity, but you should really leave science to those who understand it. [[User:JanSmuts|JanSmuts]] 16:04, 12 April 2012 (EDT)
::For someone who thinks that Brownian motion is about motion at the sub-atomic level your suggestions of scientific superiority ring hollow.--[[User:DavidEdwards|DavidEdwards]] 10:15, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

== Newtonian explanation of Mercury's precession ==

I removed the phrase "[precession can be understood by] factoring in the gravitational pull due to other planets". The first sentence of that paragraph says the opposite, that the extra precession cannot be understood "even after accounting for gravitational perturbations caused all other planets". Unless I'm reading it wrong, it sounded like a contradiction. [[User:Spielman|Spielman]] 16:51, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

:Where is the contradiction? If the exponent in Newtonian gravity is slightly adjusted, then it predicts the Mercury precession.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 18:01, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

::I'm curious as to the justification for changing a formula in Newtonian gravity. Do you change it for every situation, or just for this one special case? Can you give us the adjusted formula, and specify the exact change? For such a change in physics which has been in use for over 250 years I would like to see a reference, preferably several good references. [[User:RolandPlankton|RolandPlankton]] 18:25, 13 April 2012 (EDT)
:::The old Newcomb-Hall hypothesis. [http://books.google.at/books?id=oKGlHjDzGjQC&lpg=PA379&dq=newcomb%20hall%20precession&pg=PA379#v=onepage&q=newcomb%20hall%20precession&f=false This book] says that it contradicts the observations of the orbit of the moon, which rules out a change of exponent of of the required magnitude. --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 18:30, 13 April 2012 (EDT)
::The contributors to this section might be pleased to see that the issue has been discussed, at great length, right here at Conservapedia. An entire debate page was created for it: [[Debate:What is the exponent of r in Newtonian gravity%3F]] This was a discussion that spilled over from [[Essay:Quantifying Open-Mindedness]].

::Furthermore, the subject was discussed on the relativity page itself, in the section [[Theory_of_relativity#Experimental_Verification_of_Relativity]]. There is a large chart showing the precessions of the planets under the Newcomb-Hall theory and under general relativity. They are the last two columns of the chart. The actual observations match the last column very well (see [http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s6-02/6-02.htm], taking into account that it's very hard to get accurate reading on the outer planets, since their precession is so small.

::One can see that the last two columns of the chart match only for Mercury. That is, Newcomb and Hall "tweaked" the exponent to the value of 2.000000157 in order to get Mercury's precession correct.

::Under the Newcomb-Hall theory, the precession of any orbiting body would be .000000078 revolutions per orbit. This works for Mercury, but is too high for the other planets, and way too high for the Moon. This is why the theory was discarded. With modern artificial satellites, such as the International Space Station, an orbit takes only an hour and a half, and the precession would be enormous. The clearly wrong value for the Moon is why the Newcomb-Hall theory was quickly discarded.

::Under general relativity, we know that the precession per orbit is proportional to the square of the planet's orbital velocity. Mercury has the highest velocity, so it has readily measurable precession. Artificial satellites are much slower, and the Moon is slower still.

::I personally don't see accepting the possible truth of such a thoroughly discredited theory as evidence of open-mindedness, but open-mindedness is admittedly a very tricky issue. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 18:11, 14 April 2012 (EDT)

::::"Mathematical physicists" (an [[oxymoron]] - I'll add it to the list) insisted that it was impossible for the exponent in Newtonian gravity to be anything other than '''''precisely''''' 2 (or -2). With the political push to promote the [[Theory of Relativity]], the influence of the mathematical physicists rose too, and that is what shut down the valid inquiry into whether the Newtonian exponent should be '''''precisely''''' 2 (or -2). But any logical inquiry must admit the possibility, or even the likelihood, that it would not be exactly 2 (or -2).--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 19:31, 13 April 2012 (EDT)

The issue here is not whether the exponent is precisely two or not but that you have to have a model which explains all (or at least as many as possible) observations. To get the precision of Mercury right you produce a model which then fails to explain the observed precession of every other body in the solar system. This seems to be a good experimental demonstration that Newcomb-Hall is wrong (or least inadequate as a model). [[User:Jloveday|Jloveday]] 15:32, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

:I'm not sure how [[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] got us on the subject of the Newtonian exponent. My comment makes no mention of it. I'll answer his original question "where's the contradiction?": I quoted two sentences, both containing the phrase "other planets". One sentence said the precession '''can''' be understood by including the effects of the other planets, whereas the other said the precession '''cannot''' be understood that way. It is just rhetoric. The contradiction has little to do with physics. [[User:Spielman|Spielman]] 12:06, 16 April 2012 (EDT)

OK, how do you explain that adjusting the exponent in Newtonian gravity doesn't account for the orbits of the other planets? You say it has to do with politics. It has nothing to do with politics--the other theory just doesn't work! [[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 20:33, 11 May 2012 (EDT)

:I doubt the minor tweak in the exponent would affect the other orbits. The orbit of Mercury would be far more sensitive to such a tweak than anything else.

:The broader question remains: isn't the [[censorship]] of any alternative to the [[Theory of Relativity]] obvious? If the theory were correct, then there would be no need for [[liberals]] to censor debate or alternative theories.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:25, 12 May 2012 (EDT)

::*''I doubt the minor tweak in the exponent would affect the other orbits.'' Do you have any calculations which would affirm this belief of yours? AFAIK, Simon Newcomb's and Asaph Hall's idea was discarded when excellent measurements for the Moon were made by Ernest W. Brown which didn't fit the predictions of Newcomb and Hall. This was in the early 20th century...
::*Today Computer simulations allow for an easy test of alternatives to Newton's exponent. Any student should be able to create one and see for himself that it doesn't work out.
::*The influence of the exponent on ''apsidal angles'' was discussed be Newton himself. It's still of interest today: a central system in which the exponent is 1 is easily imaginable (swing a weight on a spring around your head). And you will find publications on these subjects still today.
::That said:
::*Why don't you run a simulation for yourself?
::*''Alternative theories'' are discussed - and mostly discarded. That's the way physics works. Theories doesn't become true because you ''believe'' in them, they become more and more trustworthy when their predictions are verified over and over again.
::[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 08:40, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

:::The Newcomb-Hall theory doesn't need anyone, liberal or otherwise, to censor it. It censors itself, by being wrong. It has been shown to be wrong many times, including Ernest Brown's observations, and some data published right here at [[Theory of relativity#Experiments that Fail to Prove Relativity|Conservapedia]].

:::Probably the best refutation at present is with artificial satellites, since their orbital period is so short. If you want to argue for the Newcomb-Hall theory, your best bet would be to find data showing that the periapsis of the International Space Station precesses by .013 degrees per month. That is an enormous precession, easily observed. The orbital eccentricity is only .001, but, since the ISS is so close and is in constant contact by radio and radar, there should be extremely good data. You should probably contact the author of the [http://www.heavens-above.com/ Heavens Above] web site. It has a huge amount of information on things like this.

:::I think that you will find that what you are up against is not liberals, but facts. [[User:JudyJ|JudyJ]] 12:44, 13 May 2012 (EDT)

== First sentence of article contradicted by the rest ==

Given that main body of the article now largely deals with the things GR can explain (including the precession of Mercury) should not the first sentance be changed?[[User:Jloveday|Jloveday]] 15:37, 15 April 2012 (EDT)

:GR is '''disproven''''' now by the precession of Mercury. See [[Counterexamples to Relativity]].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 16:22, 21 April 2012 (EDT)

I checked [[Counterexamples to Relativity]] and the number for the observed precession in the note are unreferenced. To be credible there has to be a reference for this number.[[User:Jloveday|Jloveday]] 12:11, 22 April 2012 (EDT)

== Nobel Committee Criticism ==

That section of the article criticizes the Nobel Committee for not awarding a prize to a scientist who questions relativity, then immediately notes that no awards have been given for work related to relativity. Perhaps it'd be better to remove this contradiction; pick a poison and stick to it, so to speak. Alternatively, it may be more honest just to remove the section. --[[User:PaPatriot|PaPatriot]]

:What's contradictory about that? It's similar to how the Obama Administration won't appoint anyone who is [[pro-life]], and yet Obama won't campaign on being pro-[[abortion]]. That's not a contradiction.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] 20:07, 23 May 2012 (EDT)

== Bending of light in Newtonian gravity ==

All right, can someone show me exactly how light is bent by gravity in Newtonian gravity? Photons have zero mass, so, according to Newtonian gravity, they should not feel gravity. [[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 20:56, 25 June 2012 (EDT)

:*Newton's Corpuscular theory of light didn't state that the mass of the photons is zero. It was just obvious that it is very tiny
:*For the actual calculation, the mass of the photon cancels out
:*[[Johann Georg von Soldner]] did the calculations in 1801 - Newton's theroy was still going strong, then. ([http://de.wikisource.org/wiki/Ueber_die_Ablenkung_eines_Lichtstrals_von_seiner_geradlinigen_Bewegung Über die Ablenkung eines Lichtstrals von seiner geradlinigen Bewegung] English: ''On the Deflection of a Light Ray from its Rectilinear Motion''). The predicted effect was to tiny to be observed accurately in his time
:*Newton's corpuscular theory became unpopular since the 1820s, so this line of thought wasn't followed up.
:*Here is a modern re-calculation [http://arxiv.org/abs/0903.1031v6 Bending of light: A classical analysis]
:From Sendler's essay: ''Hoffentlich wird es niemand bedenklich finden, daß ich einen Lichtstral geradezu als schweren Körper behandle. Denn daß die Lichtstralen alle absoluten Eigenschaften der Materie besitzen, sieht man an dem Phänomen der Aberration, welches nur dadurch möglich ist, daß die Lichtstralen wirklich materiel sind. – Und überdies, man kann sich kein Ding denken, das existiren und auf unsere Sinne wirken soll, ohne die Eigenschaft der Materie zu haben. –''
:''Hopefully no one will take offense that I looked at a ray of light as an object of mass. That every ray of light has the absolute properties of matter is seen from the phenomenon of aberration, which is only possible because the rays are really material. — and furthermore, one can think of no thing which exists and interacts with our sense without having the properties of matter.''
:[[User:AugustO|AugustO]] 02:45, 26 June 2012 (EDT)
::Yeah, I've heard of that. But the photon has zero mass. [[User:AndyFrankinson|AndyFrankinson]] 20:20, 26 June 2012 (EDT)
:::Newtonian physics doesn't know about zero-mass particles, hence it doesn't make a unique prediction. One possible interpretation is to say "zero mass -> zero gravitational force -> no bending". Another interpretation is to take the mathematical limit of the equations for ''m''->0. Since ''ma = GMm/r2'', the mass of the photon cancels and you get ''a = GM/r2'', even in the limiting case ''m=''0. This leads to bending by half the amount as predicted by relativity (and observed). --[[User:FrederickT3|FrederickT3]] 22:47, 26 June 2012 (EDT)

== Conflation of Relativity and Relativism & Robert H. Dicke & Barack Obama ==

There appears to be significant resistance to relativity that is largely unfounded. The theory is in no way contradictory to Christian beliefs, or religion in general. As a conservative, right wing encycloepdia, I expect resistance to moral relativism.

From reading the article, it appears many of the authorship appear to conflate Einstein's relativity with moral relativism. The two concepts are entirely and utterly unrelated other than both containing the word "relativ". Newton's model of gravity as a simple inverse square law is a very close approximation to Einstein's model. The difference is Newton's is very slightly inaccurate and cannot be used where extreme accuracy is needed. Relativity can.

What's the difficulty with relativity here? The central premise is very basic and seems pretty self evident upon a little thought. There is no absolute frame of reference in a universe in which everything moves relative to everything else. Something can only be defined as moving with respect to (relative to) something else. And there you have it, general relativity.

There is also a problem with the section on Robert H. Dicke. He wasn't a major critic of relativity. Indeed, he developed some of the most stringent tests (relativity is highly falsifiable). It passed them. All.

I tracked down and read the article regarding relativity and law (Obama, etc.). It is quite a nice analogy, and is no way an attempt to use relativity to justify anything. The analogy is more closely related to the uncertainty principle - you cannot measure a particles position without changing or influencing it. You cannot just observe, as you have to intervene in order to do so. The same is true in American law (with a much stronger reliance on test cases, etc, than in say, English law). You cannot deal with one case without it having vast implications for others. That is all the paper is saying. Again, there is no agenda against conservatism or religion in this paper.

[[User:LucoDaw|LucoDaw]] 23:45, 5 July 2012 (EDT)

== Clocks on Trains - alternative theory ==

Someone better come up with a really good explanation as to why a clock on a train will show a different time to a clock next to the track, after the train has travelled for a length of time. This has been done, and relativity predicted the difference (due to time dilation). If relativity is definitely un-true (the premise of this article), then what IS causing the difference in times?

The above GPS argument makes a similar case, but trains are easier to understand. The difference in time on these clocks has nothing at all to do with quantum physics. Noone try and claim it is, and that they don't have to prove it because it's a logical statement. Anyone who thinks they can logically infer QM (which is inherently illogical by human perception) needs to see a shrink.

[[User:LucoDaw|LucoDaw]] 23:51, 5 July 2012 (EDT)

== Counterexamples to Recent Experiments ==

Recently, experiments have been published in Science, directly measuring general relativistic time dilation effects using atomic clocks placed about a metre apart. Do we have any idea how to refute this? The reference I provide is to a newspaper summary of the findings [http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/einsteins-theory-is-proved--and-it-is-bad-news-if-you-own-a-penthouse-2088195.html]. I have also read the paper and see no loopholes.
--[[User:DanPW|DanPW]] 12:49, 20 July 2012 (EDT)

::We don't need to, and can't, refute this; it is true. This appears to be an update, over a much shorter distance, of the Pound-Rebka experiment of 1960 or so. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 08:27, 15 July 2017 (EDT)

:Probably our best bet is personal attacks on the researcher, Chou, or possibly [[NIST]]. I suspect Chou was not born in this country. He may have an agenda to confuse American citizens. [[User:Spielman|Spielman]] 14:35, 20 July 2012 (EDT)

== Information and Relativistic Time Dilation? ==

The question is this: are laws of physics the results of predetermined relationships, or are they result of using information?

This seemingly has nothing to do with time dilation, mass increase and such. But it does. Read more about this important question:

[http://www.msg2act.com/physics/ch/index.shtml]

It turns out, there is a connection between information processing and SR/GR time dilation.

In a simplified way, the more information there is, the slower the rate of physical processes.

Antecedent to first concept of physics, main SR/GR results can be derived out of thin air, without postulates.

== Edit of 29 Oct 2014 ==

I think [[User:Dossas]] was right in having the article say what it is before criticizing it. Most pages on science have at least a sentence or two, at the beginning, saying what the subject is.

I have moved the bulk of the criticism (Louis Essen, etc.) up a few paragraphs. The link to his article ''The Special Theory of Relativity: A Critical Analysis'' was a dead link, but I found two other links that are equally fiery. And I put the "wouldn't get tenure" line into a better contextual place. That is, in with the paragraph about Essen. In fact, his ''Relativity and Time Signals'' paper has a quote at the top: "The theory is so rigidly held that young scientists dare not openly express their doubts" that you might want to put in, illustrating the "wouldn't get tenure" line. Though I haven't done that.

[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 00:10, 30 October 2014 (EDT)

== An argument against relativity ==
I think I have a strong (theoretical) argument against the theory of relativity. Is there anyone who could help me by reviewing my stuff, by giving me a professional opinion? May email address: laszlogm@admarc.hu {{unsigned|Laszlogm}}

::I think things like this would be best played out in public. After all, this is a wiki, and Conservapedia has a long history of debating relativity issues openly. But if you really do want to promulgate it in private, my email is near the top of my user page. However, if you go that route, I very well may decide, based on what I see, to make it public somewhere here on CP.
::Your next choice might be simply to publish it directly, either on your own user or talk page, or at the bottom of this page (Talk pages are appended at the end, so they are in forward chronological order).
::Perhaps your best bet, if you are feeling really confident, is to add it to the [[Counterexamples to Relativity]] page. But I should advise you in advance: The bar for counterexamples is rather high, and, unless you really have a correct counterexample, your argument will be figuratively ripped to shreds, the way all the others have been.
::[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] 13:33, 11 January 2015 (EST)
== Einstein’s Relativity and Relativism: Why Einstein’s theory of relativity is actually a powerful argument for absolute truth. ==

Please read the article [http://evangelicalfocus.com/blogs/1297/Einsteins_Relativity_and_Relativism Einstein’s Relativity and Relativism: Why Einstein’s theory of relativity is actually a powerful argument for absolute truth.] [[User:Conservative|Conservative]] ([[User talk:Conservative|talk]]) 13:55, 11 February 2016 (EST)

== New heading ==

I have rarely laughed out loud as often as I did while reading this article. This must be satire, no? If not then I weep for humanity. {{unsigned|Nikib}}

:Yeah, sure you do. You might weep for closed-mindedness too.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 15:15, 2 July 2017 (EDT)

::You may consider it to be satire, but it is not. The story is more complicated than that. Conservapedia is probably the most prominent place on the internet where relativity is treated this way. There is probably no one on the planet that disparages and denies relativity more ferociously than Andy Schlafly. The [[counterexamples to relativity]] page is world-famous, has over 2 million page views, and dominates, by a wide margin, Google searches for the subject. If you think that all of us at CP are anti-relativity, you are wrong.

::You should know that there is sort of a custom at CP, for pages like this, that parts of pages above the table of contents are not to by edited except by Aschlafly, but the material below the table of contents is the consensus (in the usual way for a wiki) of the editor base, and that most editors try to have that part of the page be a factual exposition of the subject. If you would like to contribute to that, feel free. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 15:37, 2 July 2017 (EDT)

== Gravitational time dilation ==

Each rising sun is a synchronization of time, every eclipses synchronize altitudes together from one eclipse to the other. Synchronization of events is incompatible with desynchronization of clocks. I prefer to believe in synchronization of eclipses than in desynchronization of clocks. But that is a choice. If you believe eclipses are desynchronized, it is God will, but you are not in the truth. If there were some (nano)seconds more at high altitudes between eclipses (slower rate), it would mean events happen quicker at low altitude (quicker rate of events in a time dilated frame???). What is your opinion? {{unsigned|Geocentric}}
:My opinion is that the English language is a beautiful and expressive language, and that science is a beautiful and useful pursuit. What I reverted showed a level of English and scientific literacy lower than that of a reasonable 10-year-old.
:Relativity is about fundamental physical truths about space and time, not trivialities about eclipses and sunrises. In any case, the phenomenon of sunrise is known, to anyone with a primary-school education, to be nothing but a manifestation of the rotation of the Earth (relativity!)
:I still do not know whether this person is a willful troll/vandal or is just monumentally ignorant. We certainly have our share of scientific nonsense at Conservapedia, such as [[Gravitation demystified]] and [[Hydroplate Theory]]<ref>[http://www.creationscience.com/]</ref>. We don't need any more. I would recommend that this person go away. If this stuff persists, I will recommend that the administrators review this issue and block this user. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 20:27, 21 August 2017 (EDT)

== "Household name" claim ==

What made someone a "household name" is not of scientific interest. The [[fake news]] of the 1919 eclipse, and how media ran with it, hardly seems to be of encyclopedic value in a scientific entry. The implication that [[fake news]] must be true if people believe is not enlightening.--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 16:46, 3 September 2018 (EDT)

:Information about Einstein's rise to fame is admittedly not appropriate for an actual science textbook. A physics textbook would describe Galileo's accomplishments in mechanics (leading to what we now call "Galilean relativity") and astronomy (telescope, moons of Jupiter, etc.) but would probably not discuss in any detail his problems with the Catholic Church.

:However, this an encyclopedia, not a physics textbook, and a certain amount of "fluff" or societal material appears in many CP articles. For example, the articles on Madonna Ciccone, Taylor Swift, Elvis Presley, Johannes Kepler, Stephen Hawking, Marie Curie, William Herschel, Wolfgang Mozart, and Ludwig van Beethoven, to name just a minuscule fraction of our articles, all have "soft" material on why they are famous.

:Like it or not, Einstein is a household name. If it weren't, would you be fighting so hard against him? And he got that way in 1919 because of the eclipse. I happen to disagree that that's his signature achievement. But it's the achievement that, for better or worse, got the headlines and made him a superstar.

:If the eclipse observations had been wrong, that fame would have been taken away. But Eddington's result was right while his methods were wrong.<ref>''Einstein's Luck'', John Waller, Oxford University Press, ISBN 0-19-860719-9</ref> Eddington lucked out and got away with it, and the flaws in his analysis weren't discovered until decades later with the advent of more rigorous methods for analyzing experiments. By then, extremely precise and properly analyzed data had gotten the same result—the angle of deflection was 1.75 arcseconds.

:It is far better to say that people believed the eclipse news (else how could we explain how Einstein became a household word?) but Eddington's methods were wrong (And this is exactly what our article says!) than to censor that information and leave people in the dark about Einstein's fame.

:Wrong things get said all the time. In the extremely early years of computers, some famous person (can't be bothered to look it up, but you've probably read it too) said that the whole world would have a need for about 5 computers. And don't forget that the US Patent Office was once closed down because nothing more would be invented.

:[[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 19:05, 3 September 2018 (EDT)

== Numbers for claims about Mercury's precession. ==

ASchlafly compares the relativistic prediction for the precession of Mercury's orbit with observed values and states that "the conflict is greater than the margin of error." However, he does not show what these values are or provide a link to an external reference. Elsewhere on the same page some numbers for observed and predicted anomalous precession are provided, and they appear to be in agreement: the uncertainties overlap. For example, a predicted value of 42.98 ±0.04 arcseconds per century is provided, which does overlap with the provided observed value of 43.13 ± 0.14 arcseconds per century. Interestingly, there is no reference for the predicted value of 42.98 ±0.04. There are values in tables that do not match the values in the references that seem to be associated with the tables as well. Lastly, a formula for the approximation of precession under GR is provided in two places which is off by a factor of 2Π, in the reference frame of the orbiting body in question. Use of that formula as stated provides neither the correct predicted precession per orbit, nor the correct predicted precession per 100 Earth years (which is how the precession is normally presented). It's unclear when the incorrect formula was added to the page or for what purpose. 
If ASchlafly would cite or report the specific numbers that he is comparing, or point to his source for those numbers, his argument could be evaluated. Currently, his claim is in clear conflict with the numbers provided elsewhere on the page. The issue of the incomplete/incorrect formula and possible errors (or incorrect references) in the tables should probably be addressed by a more senior party than myself.--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] ([[User talk:Brossa|talk]]) 14:14, 4 September 2018 (EDT)
:Ummm, yeah. I may have gotten the two "approximations" wrong. The one in footnote 46 or so was the approximation in Einstein's paper. The other one was just put together by me as an ''extreme'' back-of-the-envelope rough approximation designed to show how the precession depends on the planet's speed relative to the speed of light, without fussing over the orbital eccentricity. I'll go look at that again. It's made confusing by the need to choose really consistent units (what exactly is the Schwartzschild radius? Are we using c=1 units?). And the standard "theoretical" formulas are in Mercury years, whereas we traditionally describe this in Earth years.
:But keep in mind that the real test is whether the precession ''as observed through telescopes'' and the precession ''as precisely calculated from the Einstein field equations and the Schwartzschild metric'' agree. That's what the error bars are about. The two approximations are just that. You need to solve the equations, and (unlike for Newtonian/Keplerian gravity) that has to be done by computer.
:So I'll look at that and try to clean it up. And not have one of the approximations in the text while another is in a footnote. That's just dumb. Thanks for pointing out the problem. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 16:32, 4 September 2018 (EDT)
::I've looked it over, and I "sort of" stand by my original formulas. I think things are confused by the symbol "a". In modern relativity textbooks that's the Schwartzschild radius, (also know as the "gravitating radius") but in Einstein's paper it was the semi-major axis of the ellipse. (You remember a and b being the semi-major and semi-minor axes of an ellipse from high school, right? That's what Einstein was using.) Now the reason I say "sort of" is that my supposedly nice approximation of <math>\frac{3GM}{c^2 a(1-e^2)}</math> was already simplified, by me, from what was in Einstein's paper. And that was an approximation in any case. The only way to get the really precise theoretical prediction is to solve numerically for a geodesic, by computer. Thet's what the Pijpers paper is comparing with the experimental measurements. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 01:17, 5 September 2018 (EDT)
::::I agree that it's an approximation, and a reasonable one for these purposes, but that 3GM/... approximation is ''per radian'' of rotation, so the precession over an entire orbit (2π radians of rotation) is 2π(3GM/....), or <math>\frac{6piGM}{c^2 a(1-e^2)}</math>. That can be converted directly into arcseconds per Earth century. Incidentally, how do you get a π to show up in an equation?--[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] ([[User talk:Brossa|talk]]) 23:23, 5 September 2018 (EDT)

:::Not even top relativists claim that the advance of the perihelion of Mercury proves the General Theory of Relativity anymore. Once the divergence between more accurate measurements and the theory began occurring nearly 15 years ago, relativists stopped reporting data about this. The Wikipedia entry on this displays a style of everything except confirmation by the data of the theory. Instead, it talks about historical motivation and uses [[liberal style]] like "consistent with" rather than "confirms". Its citations are then more than a decade old. See [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tests_of_general_relativity#Perihelion_precession_of_Mercury].--[[User:Aschlafly|Andy Schlafly]] ([[User talk:Aschlafly|talk]]) 12:13, 5 September 2018 (EDT)
:::::I don't think anyone claims that the perihelion measurements '''prove''' GR. Experiments can only '''refute''' a theory. They can also be '''consistent with''' a theory. When enough experiments, especially experiments that investigate a wide variety of phenomena, are shown to be consistent with the theory, it lends credence to the theory. When no other plausible theory can explain the those observations, we can say that they '''validate''' the theory. The Mercury observations are just one phenomenon. By themselves they couldn't validate or prove GR. And there's another competing theory—the Newcomb-Hall exponent-fudging theory. That one doesn't hold up for things other than Mercury, which helps validate GR. But there are many other supporting observations listed on the page—bending of light, gravitational time dilation, gravitational waves, geodetic precession, Shapiro effect, etc. It is these widely disparate observations that lead people to say that GR is "validated". [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 23:53, 5 September 2018 (EDT)
::::My question for you was just what the specific numbers you are comparing are, in support of your statement that the conflict is greater than the margin of error. For example: are you comparing the calculated vs. observed numbers for the anomalous precession only from the Pijpers paper, or some other numbers from the Wikipedia article, or some third source? You mention 15 years ago, so are you referring to some data from 2003 or thereabouts? As I said above, the numbers presented on the page here are ''not'' in conflict, so if you are operating with a different set of numbers we should know what those are. --[[User:Brossa|Brossa]] ([[User talk:Brossa|talk]]) 23:03, 5 September 2018 (EDT)
:::::The Pjpers material was not put in by me. Someone else, maybe AugustO. By the way, I do not copy stuff from Wikipedia; I go straight to the source if possible. If what I've written above is "Wikipedia style", so be it. I don't pay attention to "Wikipedia style"; I just try to use terms correctly and logically.
:::::I have no idea where Andy gets the idea that there are more recent data than those reported by Pijpers, and that are inconsistent with GR. Perhaps Andy should cite that. I'm not aware that "relativists [whatever that means] stopped reporting data" about any such divergence in measurements.
:::::I started to clean up the approximations, but I started getting edit conflicts with Andy, so I'm going to stop for tonight. Be aware that the seemingly obvious way we do things now may not be the way Einstein did things in 1916. In particular, he measured the precession in fractions ''of a full rotation'' rather than in radians. And, of course, it was per Mercury year, not per earth year, so all that stuff needs to be corrected for. [[User:SamHB|SamHB]] ([[User talk:SamHB|talk]]) 23:53, 5 September 2018 (EDT)

== References ==

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