Talk:Essay:Vaxxed Higher Risk of Covid than Unvaxxed

A) This source from AAAS being used is being misrepresented. The story is more "vaccines work, but not well enough". "Higher risk of Covid than Unvaxxed" is just wrong.

B) The second source is a preprint paper. The conclusion is this: "Natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity". In other words, the take is on whether natural immunity is better than the vaccine alone. The study also notes that natural immunity + vaccine is better still. The Science news item quoted as the third source, which basically references the second, once was here but has since been removed. I don't know if there are issues with the study or whether they pulled it due to covidiots not being cautious about the word preprint and failing to recognize the "natural immunity" part.

C) The fourth source I cannot find through a Google search. Since it's supposedly ProPublica but suspiciously includes political tones that don't sound consistent with ProPublica, I consider this wrong until proven elsewise (suggesting that you, Mr. Schlafly change that publication date to April 1st, I suppose.)

D) The fifth source actually appears to come from a fake news site called CrackNewz, which actually got it's information from Off-Guardian, a shit conspiracy site whose founders openly boast that they were banned from the Guardian's comment section. So, less news and more rants from the new digital green ink wielders.

E) The sixth source actually seems to be this piece of Medscape and primarily concerns the reporting of breakthrough cases. As it is quote mined, statements like "And as the new CDC data showed, vaccines continue to effectively shield vaccinated people against the worst outcomes." are suspiciously missing. It is well known that the vaccine's interaction with new variants and breakthrough cases is an area of concern, especially with further variants emerging. But "Vaxxed Higher Risk of Covid than Unvaxxed" is, naturally, a really wrong.

Thanks for your time, Mr Schlafly, SajdjaBambala (talk) 23:46, August 31, 2021 (EDT)

I'm reviewing and will respond. Thanks!--Andy Schlafly (talk) 01:34, September 1, 2021 (EDT)

The liberal media praise COVID vaccines no matter what the data show. An article in the media will talk about how badly a variant is spreading among the vaccinated, as in Israel, but then conclude that "of course, everyone should get vaccinated."

Also, please refrain from crude profanity on this site, as in one part of your above comment.--Andy Schlafly (talk) 23:35, September 6, 2021 (EDT

What happened to Conservative's comments? He was making some very good points here but unfortunately it was removed. SajdjaBambala (talk) 18:48, September 7, 2021 (EDT)

I deleted it. I am going to focus more on off internet matters. So I cut things short. I didn't want to get distracted with a drawn-out online exchange. There's are plenty of excellent sources on the internet and in libraries about coronavirus vaccines in terms of their risk/benefit ratio. It's not hard to find. Conservative (talk) 19:27, September 7, 2021 (EDT)