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::::::Well no, obviously; but I think 2005 is an especially strong case.  :)  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 21:29, 21 January 2013 (EST)
 
::::::Well no, obviously; but I think 2005 is an especially strong case.  :)  --[[User:DamianJohn|DamianJohn]] 21:29, 21 January 2013 (EST)
 
:::::::I draw a line at the "obviously". But '05, yes. (Do you think they have any idea at all what we are talking about?) [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 21:36, 21 January 2013 (EST)
 
:::::::I draw a line at the "obviously". But '05, yes. (Do you think they have any idea at all what we are talking about?) [[User:AlanE|AlanE]] 21:36, 21 January 2013 (EST)
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::::::::Yeah, something about rugby.  After that, no clue.  Rugby, and for that matter, cricket (which I would love to learn how that works) aren't readily available to us Americans.  [[User:WesleyS|WesleyS]][[User Talk:WesleyS|<sup>Hello!</sup>]] 21:47, 21 January 2013 (EST)
 
Do you really think Annie Oakley, Chuck Norris, Billy Sunday, Ewan Murray, Gavin Peacock, J.C. Watts, Jason Robinson, Michael Jones, and Phillip Rivers would be suitable winners? Face it, man, you've got some pretty obscure figures on your little list. [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 20:45, 21 January 2013 (EST)
 
Do you really think Annie Oakley, Chuck Norris, Billy Sunday, Ewan Murray, Gavin Peacock, J.C. Watts, Jason Robinson, Michael Jones, and Phillip Rivers would be suitable winners? Face it, man, you've got some pretty obscure figures on your little list. [[User:MattyD|MattyD]] 20:45, 21 January 2013 (EST)
 
:My issue with the [[Greatest Conservative Sports Stars]] and its cousin [[Overrated Sports Stars]] list is that criteria for selection appears to be only known to Andrew Schlafly. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 20:53, 21 January 2013 (EST)
 
:My issue with the [[Greatest Conservative Sports Stars]] and its cousin [[Overrated Sports Stars]] list is that criteria for selection appears to be only known to Andrew Schlafly. --[[User:DonnyC|DonnyC]] 20:53, 21 January 2013 (EST)

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Complaints

First off the word is "Sportsman" not "Sporstman". Secondly it has been awarded to conservative athletes that appear on your very own list. Mary Lou Retton 1984 and Curt Schilling 2001. --DonnyC 18:42, 21 January 2013 (EST)

I truly do not see a lot of bad choices for Sportsman of the Year, with few exceptions. A good many of them excemplify the 'Sports' portion of the award, for instance Pat Summitt (2011) who became the winningest coach of NCAA Women's College Basketball, all the while battling the opening rounds of dementia. And in the case of Lance Armstrong, that was before anyone besides himself and a select few knew of his doping. At the time, he was the winner of the Tour de France, a cancer survivor, and founder of Livestrong. WesleySHello! 19:26, 21 January 2013 (EST)
Then why aren't more Greatest Conservative Sports Stars among the winners??? Ted Williams wasn't good enough for it??? LeBron James, this past year's winner, is not even the best basketball player, let alone the best athlete.--Andy Schlafly 20:01, 21 January 2013 (EST)
I am not saying the list is faultless. Lebron surely shouldn't be the Sportsman of the Year in any year due to his hubris; but the list appears to partially transcend the best player in any sport of that particular year, but one who played well and also cared about a particular social issue. WesleySHello! 21:37, 21 January 2013 (EST)
Drew Brees also appears on your list and won Sportsman of the Year in 2010. --DonnyC 20:11, 21 January 2013 (EST)
I don't buy into any political conspiracy, but I am curious as to why an award that is apparently a world-wide award is so disproportionately given to Americans. Look at 2005 for instance. Is there anyone who could with a straight face say that Tom Brady was better than Dan Carter that year? I doubt it. --DamianJohn 20:17, 21 January 2013 (EST)
Is there anyone, any year, better than Dan, Damian? AlanE 21:19, 21 January 2013 (EST)
Well no, obviously; but I think 2005 is an especially strong case.  :) --DamianJohn 21:29, 21 January 2013 (EST)
I draw a line at the "obviously". But '05, yes. (Do you think they have any idea at all what we are talking about?) AlanE 21:36, 21 January 2013 (EST)
Yeah, something about rugby. After that, no clue. Rugby, and for that matter, cricket (which I would love to learn how that works) aren't readily available to us Americans. WesleySHello! 21:47, 21 January 2013 (EST)

Do you really think Annie Oakley, Chuck Norris, Billy Sunday, Ewan Murray, Gavin Peacock, J.C. Watts, Jason Robinson, Michael Jones, and Phillip Rivers would be suitable winners? Face it, man, you've got some pretty obscure figures on your little list. MattyD 20:45, 21 January 2013 (EST)

My issue with the Greatest Conservative Sports Stars and its cousin Overrated Sports Stars list is that criteria for selection appears to be only known to Andrew Schlafly. --DonnyC 20:53, 21 January 2013 (EST)
It's pretty simple, What Andrew likes is conservative and good. What Andrew does not like is liberal, overrated and bad. MattyD 20:56, 21 January 2013 (EST)
Yep. In 2002, Andy would have been hailing Lance Armstrong as a testament to conservative hard work and determination. I have learnt not to take Andy's views even remotely seriously when it comes to sports. I suggest you all do the same - there is nothing he knows less about than sport! --DamianJohn 21:01, 21 January 2013 (EST)
"...there is nothing [Andy] knows less about than sport!". You've obviously never visited that talk pages of any of the articles involving the Theory of Relativity. --DonnyC 21:13, 21 January 2013 (EST)
No, I am aware of his unconventional views on physics. I just think his pronouncements on sport are even worse. He literally has no idea about the subject. --DamianJohn 21:15, 21 January 2013 (EST)