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  • The article says circumcision is common in western countries, but in Europe it isn't nearly as widely practiced. Being intact is far more common there than being circumcised, esp. in Scandinavia. Alf84 19:17, 28 May 2007 (EDT)
That's very true. Circumcision is actually really rare in Europe. I also have a problem with the statistic of Americans who are circumcised - surely that should be referenced? Surely it's not that high? Blackjuice 13:58, 29 May 2007 (EDT)
It is rare in the United Kingdom. Pachyderm 16:38, 17 July 2007 (EDT)
It is also extremely rare in Australia, New Zealand and Russia. MrGrieves 13:04, 23 April 2008 (EDT)

Why say "male reproductive organ"?

I think the word "penis" is not obscene, are you reluctant to writing it in the first sentence?Sporean 12:48, 30 July 2007 (EDT)

Also, there are other male reproductive organs. However, I think this article gets the point across. Anyone who needs more detail can get it (detail) from their parents or in medical/nursing school. BHarlan 13:29, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

I've inserted it in (as it were). There are other articles on CP that use the word, & there is nothing obscene about using it in this context. Sideways 13:58, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

If it were obscene, it would be illegal. I don't think anyone is claiming that it is obscene, but it is certainly not necessary. Who really needs this information to be a productive, helpful, or faithful person? Would you honestly call this article family friendly? That's not a rhetorical question? I really am asking? BHarlan 14:49, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Your children do not know what a penis is? We learned from our mom about the time we started to be toilet trained. We didn't "talk it up", but she said (matter of factly) this is your penis for urination.--JeanJacques 15:00, 23 October 2008 (EDT)

Comments about my family are uncalled for.

Furthermore, there is a big difference between male children knowing the names of prominent parts and all children knowing the details of the bits and pieces of those parts, and how some differ from others, and the surgeries that might be performed on them. My kids know what a mouth is, but they don't know about cleft-palate surgery. I would be happy to tell them, but not if it would encourage them to focus on sexual activity before marriage. My kids know what teeth are, but if I thought telling them about root canals would encourage them to perform them before becoming a dentist, I would simply tell them that root canals are a subject for patients and dentists.

Of course, root canals aren't tempting, so I'd be happy to tell them some details, as long as it didn't frighten them. Temptation and family friendliness are different, though, between teeth and genitals. Only liberals think genitals are "just another body part".

Finally, this disagreement is a matter of degree. We both agree, I hope, that it wouldn't be useful to add a diagram of circumcision to this article. Why, then, make this any more graphic than necessary? BHarlan 15:11, 23 October 2008 (EDT)


So...God creates us with foreskin, and then demands it be removed? Seems fairly non-intelligent.

As compared to you? Karajou 18:27, 16 August 2010 (EDT)
As compared to an all powerful supreme creator being.
Well, God is THE all-powerful, supreme creator being, and your statement above implied that you're smarter than Him. That's something you need to discuss with God alone, and I'm sure you and Him would have an interesting conversation on the relative nature of I.Q. levels. Sign your name when you make a posting, please. Karajou 18:41, 16 August 2010 (EDT)
But Creationists can look at life and say it is well-designed and necessitates a designers, but those that oppose this view aren't allowed to point out the seeming lack of design - or, more so, the contradictory nature of the design? Also, forgive my ignorance, but how does one sign their name on the talk pages? Thank you!
You sign it by typing in four of these: ~ ; look next the the "1" key. Karajou 18:56, 16 August 2010 (EDT)
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