Debate:Has Russia reinstalled stealth communism?

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Russia fears the USA again. Even though democracies do not attack other democracies. Critics are murdered, the opposition is silenced. Can their be any doubt that the hand picked successor of Putin will lead Russia? If it smells like communism, if it looks like communism, it probally is communism.--jp 23:23, 20 April 2007 (EDT)

The scariest part is now the KGB is murdering people in USA and Britain. Everyone knows that Putins handpicked man will lead russia, there is a chance Putins hand picked man will lead Ukraine! Did you hear about the arrest of Kasparov last week? many in russia fear that Putins not going to leave when his times up. I would disagree that russia fears USA. They think USA is weakened at the moment and are trying to see what they can get away with. But USA beat them then and they can beat Russia nowBohdan

the Neo-Soviet Union does pose a threat thoughBohdan

Wow! That's fascinating! Thanks.--Aschlafly 23:42, 20 April 2007 (EDT)


THE COLD WAR IS OVER: the world has changed: the Reds aren't coming, the Germans won't Blitzkrieg the world, the "Japs" won't invade California: Welcome to the 21st century!

Oh, the FSB is assassinating people abroad, kinda makes them fit in nicely with the CIA, MI6, Mossad and every other intelligence agency, doesn't it?

I say we wait until next year to see if Putin leaves before we start making unfounded accusations. Right now, Russia is anything but communist: it's a country in chaos after a chaotic and instant switch to capitalism which resulted in an oligarchy.

And yes, Russia uses immoral powerplay and supports certain shady regimes to protect their interests, just like China and the US.

Middle Man

I do agree with most of what you say, Middle Man. However, Putin has a nasty track record of "neutralizing" tricky political opponents, who he knows he can't beat... --Hojimachongtalk 12:38, 21 April 2007 (EDT)


Hey, I'm not fond of the man either, but I think we should wait until next year, before we draw such radical conclusions.

Middle Man

"middle man" I love how you make inane comparisons to other countries, Stalin would be proud. You would make an excellent Soviet propogandist.Bohdan


I'm just stating facts.

Middle Man

actually, you are twisting some facts, and disregarding most. but i hope my joke didnt offend you.Bohdan

The point I was trying to make is that Russia supports Belarus (sometimes called the last dictatorship in Europe) for the same reasons the United States supported The Taliban, Saddam Hussein, Pinochet and more recently Egypt and Saudi Arabia: protecting it's own interests. It's just something large power hungry countries do.

Yes, Putin is a creep, but again, let's just wait until next year: the last thing Russia needs is another (civil)war, it has seen plenty of wars and revolutions and nothing good ever came out of them.

What facts did I twist, according to you?

Middle Man

hey its not the West that wants the cold war back on its the russian government. they said so themselves.Bohdan

They want to become a major player again, by modernizing their outdated military, but they're not gonna take on the US, in fact they need American support for their war in the Chechnya area.

Middle Man

Russia may not be a model democracy, but neither is it a communist dictatorship. Putin has delivered economic stability and Russians feel a bit more proud of their country. Russia has oil, nukes, an educated population, a large and fairly well equipped military and is experiencing strong economic growth, so it's not surprising that it's starting to use these assets in its own interests -- which will not neccesarily coincide with those of the USA. Jalapeno 13:32, 22 April 2007 (EDT)

"a large and fairly well equipped military and is experiencing strong economic growth" You better look over your facts. maybe get better sources. Bohdan 19:28, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

it is irrelevant what Putin has done, im not saying that he has been benifical to negative to the economy of russia, and even if it is being turned into a dicatorship its not being turned into a communist country, there is a difference-Greenmeanie 23:20, 22 May 2008 (EDT)

Nyet!

The Cold war is over and is no longer needed. Now we have the War on Terror to take its place. Besides that Russians didn't call themselves communists. Union of Soviet Socialist Republics never was communist, was it? It's socialistic just like the EU is today. Whatever their politics are though isn't what makes Russia a threat these days. It's their alliances with China, Iran, and Syria. All of those nuclear plants in Iran are mostly Russian designs. Socialism has been adopted by most western countries so that Russian socialism is no longer a threat to the West. What ended the Cold War was when the West adopted socialism in 1992. Didn't you know that? What do you think Globalism is?--Roopilots6 21:54, 21 April 2007 (EDT)

Is the cold war really over? It looks like vlad really wants it back on again... Bohdan 19:26, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

The trends in Russia have gone dramatically toward the left, and democracy is taking a step back again. Especially after the events involving Russia and Britain of the last two days, and of the missile issue... I really think that we're looking at a possible Cold War II. DanH 19:45, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

No doubt. last week he pulled out of a arms control treaty too. Bohdan 19:47, 19 July 2007 (EDT)

If this second Cold War isn't with Russia, the national debt makes me wonder how future relations between the US and China will develop, too, although that's another can of worms entirely. DanH 19:51, 19 July 2007 (EDT)


The cold war is never really over, it just "rested" for about ten years because the Soviet Union was broke. Now that Russia is rich, they do able to bring out the rested cold war again (and now US is broke) since they control tons of energy resources.

Russia may not be an official communistic country now, but the culture is still there, and the government is very powerful.Kmcheng 17:18, 25 December 2008 (EST)

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